[Call To Order] [Minutes: April 07, 2026] [00:00:41] OKAY. WELL, I'D LIKE TO. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE? WE APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED. PERFECT. SOUNDS GOOD. ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND IT? SECOND. PERFECT. I WILL JUST DO A VOICE VOTE. EVERYONE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. SO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT IS JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK BUSINESS ITEMS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE FIRST ITEM IS THE FINAL [3.I. PLT26-009: Final Plat for Sage Lakes Division No. 1. SE¼ of Section 31, Township 3 North, Range 38 East. Located north of Sage Lakes Boulevard, east of Cypress Creek, south of Sage Lakes Golf Course, and west of N 5th East.] PLAT FOR SAGE LAKES DIVISION NUMBER ONE. AND WE HAVE A APPLICANT FOR THAT. PERFECT. YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME ON UP AND PRESENT YOUR CASE. WELL, MY PARTNER IS ON THE WAY HERE, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING PLANNED, BUT I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, I GUESS. OKAY. DO WE NEED TO SAY ANYTHING OR JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT? SO WE'RE JUST IN THE WE'VE GOT THE BRIDGE OPEN, WHICH EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY ABOUT. WE'RE JUST GETTING THE FIRST DIVISION, WHICH IS 37 OR 38 LOTS. I THINK OF TOWNHOMES AND TRYING TO GET THAT FINAL PLAT DONE SO THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE. AND TO GO ALONG WITH THAT BUILDING. SO BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT. OKAY. PERFECT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOOD FOR NOW. WE WILL NOW HEAR FROM CITY STAFF. THANKS. COMMISSION. THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT. IT SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO YOU. YOU RECENTLY SEEN THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS AREA. THAT PLANNING DEVELOPMENT HAS SINCE BEEN TO CITY COUNCIL AND IS APPROVED. THIS, AS WAS STATED, IS THE FIRST DIVISION OF THAT AREA. I COME BACK TO JUST THE FIRST SLIDE. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R-2, WHICH IS A MIXED OR MEDIUM DENSITY ZONE. THE PROPOSAL IS FOR 3039 LOT SUBDIVISION. 38 OF THOSE LOTS ARE BUILDABLE. THE OTHER SINGLE LOT IS A COMMON LOT. IF I MOVE FORWARD TO THE TO THE PLAT, THE SINGLE LOT IS A COMMON LOT THAT ENCOMPASSES OPEN SPACE AND THE PRIVATE ROAD SYSTEM THAT WILL SERVICE EACH OF THE ATTACHED SINGLE DWELLING UNITS IN THIS. ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION COMES FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE AERIAL DOESN'T SHOW THAT. AS WAS STATED, THE ROAD THERE. SAGE LAKES BOULEVARD. THAT STREET FRONTAGE HAS BEEN COMPLETED OUT TO THE MAIN ROAD WITH THE BRIDGE OVER THE CANAL, WHICH WE'RE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT AS WELL. SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THIS AREA DENOTES IT AS GENERAL URBAN. THE ZONING IS CONSISTENT. THE SUBDIVISION IS CONSISTENT BOTH WITH THE ZONING AND ALSO THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED. JUST PICTURES OF THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE THE FRESH ASPHALT THERE. WITH THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION AS PRESENTED AND TRY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY FOR ME. OKAY, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON LIKES TO SAY I. SORRY, I THINK THERE WAS A TYPO ON THE ACTION. IT IS ACTUALLY STATE LEAGUE DIVISION ONE. WE'LL MAKE THAT CHANGE. YES. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. OKAY. I THINK YOU'RE GOOD FOR NOW. I DID NOTICE THE SPARK CAME IN. IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING ADDITIONAL. HE SAID. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY. MY GUY IS COMING, SO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO. BUT JUST THOUGHT I'D GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I THOUGHT I THOUGHT I WAS ON TIME, BUT I GUESS I WAS A MINUTE LATE. NO. YEAH. WE'RE JUST WE'RE JUST EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD AND. WHAT? OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. JARED HUISH, [00:05:07] 720 EAST CENTER STREET IN ALPINE, UTAH. YEAH. WE'RE JUST EXCITED TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS. WE'VE HAD HAD HAD A GREAT PROCESS WITH KERRY AND BRIAN AND AND NOW WITH THE WHOLE STAFF. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD. AND WE'VE WE'VE REALLY TAKEN GREAT LENGTHS ON THIS. AND ALSO IN DIVISION 30 THAT YOU'LL SEE SHORTLY TO INCLUDE ALL THE COMMENTS AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE. I'LL GET INTO THAT LATER IF WE TALK ABOUT DIVISION 30, BUT WE'VE INCLUDED A LOT OF ADDITIONAL THINGS TO HELP ADDRESS THE CONCERNS FROM ALL OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED. SO ANYWAYS, NOT MUCH TO ADD. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. WELL, ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY OR. ANYONE GOOD WITH? OKAY, I GUESS I WILL. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I'LL TAKE A MOTION. GREAT, I MOVE. OH. I'M SORRY. ANYONE WANT A SECOND? I'M SO DUMB. I'M SORRY I SKIPPED AHEAD. GO AHEAD. ALL RIGHT, I'LL RESTATE THE MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAT AS PRESENTED. ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT? I'LL SECOND. GREAT. THANK YOU. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HARGER. YES. YES. YES. TYLER. YES. YES. SCOTT. HI. YES, OGDEN. A MOTION PASSED. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO [3.II. PLT26-010: Final Plat for Arbor Estates Division No. 1. E ½ of the SE ¼ of Section 6, Township 1 North, Range 38 East. Located north of E 65th South, east of Columbia Street, south of La Paloma Drive, and west of S Holmes Avenue.] NOW WE'RE ON TO THE NEXT BUSINESS ITEM, WHICH IS THE FINAL PLAT FOR OUR ESTATES DIVISION. NUMBER ONE. DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THAT? OKAY, THEN I GUESS WE'LL HEAR FROM CITY STAFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSION, WE'RE GOING FROM UP NORTH NOW. WE'RE MOVING DOWN SOUTH. SO THIS IS DIVISION ONE OF ARBOR STATES AGAIN, SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR THAT WE HAD A PRELIMINARY PLAT PREVIOUSLY COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THIS AREA. THE AREA IS WITHIN THE CITY ZONED R1, WHICH IS THE YELLOW THAT YOU SEE THERE. PROPERTY SITS AT THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY WITH 65TH SOUTH RUNNING ALONG ITS SOUTHERN EDGE, AND THEN HOLMES AVENUE RUNNING ALONG THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY. JUST TO ZOOM IN CLOSER. THERE YOU CAN SEE THE. THE PROPERTY HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN USED FOR AG PURPOSES. THERE ARE SOME COUNTY SUBDIVISIONS, LARGER LOTS, SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE DEVELOPED IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY, AND THIS SUBDIVISION IS FILLING IN THAT AREA. WE'LL LOOK AT THE OVERALL. AND THEN JUST TO I THINK IT'S TWO SLIDES, THE PLATS LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT SHEETS. THE LOTS HERE INCLUDE 70 BUILDABLE LOTS WITH FIVE COMMON LOTS OR LANDSCAPE LOTS WITHIN THEIR. THE PART. THE SUBDIVISION ALSO INCLUDES A LARGE. THERE'S A LARGE LOT HERE JUST OFF OF HOLMES. THIS IS HOLMES ON THE EAST SIDE. AS YOU COME INTO THE SUBDIVISION. THERE'S A LARGE LOT HERE INTENDED FOR A FUTURE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION AT THAT. ON THE EDGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SUBDIVISION HAS PLATTED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE EXISTING STUB ROADS OF THE COUNTY'S DEVELOPMENT. IF I GO BACK TO THAT AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE EXISTING COUNTY STREETS IN THAT SUBDIVISION, THEY WERE STUD TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT THE ROADS COULD CONTINUE. THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THOSE THE SUBDIVISION, AS IT GETS PROPOSED THAT IT MATCH UP WITH THOSE EXISTING RIGHTS OF WAY SO THAT WE COULD GET GOOD STREET CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THERE. THE SUBDIVISION IS PROPOSING TO DO THAT ALONG WITH THE SUBDIVISION AS WELL. YOU'LL HAVE A WIDENING OF HOLMES IN THIS AREA, AS WELL AS THE DECEL LANE TO ALLOW ENTRANCE INTO SUBDIVISION. THAT IS ALSO TRUE ON THE SOUTH END ALONG 65TH SOUTH. SO YOU'LL SEE STANDARD CITY IMPROVEMENTS [00:10:06] THERE. KIND OF HARD TO SEE THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION. THERE'S MAYBE A BETTER PICTURE OF THE AREA TODAY. IT'LL BE TAKEN FROM 65TH SOUTH WITH THE THE ACCESS COMES FROM AGAIN, THE SUBDIVISION IS PROPOSED MEETS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE R-1 ZONE. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHICH WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR GROWTH IN THE CITY. SO STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHTY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO. OKAY. WELL, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I WILL. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR ARBOR ESTATES DIVISION NUMBER ONE TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND THAT? I'LL SECOND. PERFECT. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HAGER. YES. STORE. YES. MEEHAN. A ISLER SCALES I SCOTT. PANTER. OGDEN I. MOTION PASSED. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALL [3.III. PLT26-011: Final Plat for Fairway Estates Subdivision No. 30. N ½ of the SE ¼ of Section 31, Township 3 North, Range 38 East. Located north of Sage Lakes Boulevard, east of Sage Lakes Golf Course, south of E 65th North, and west of N 5th East.] RIGHT. NOW ON TO OUR LAST A BUSINESS ITEM. WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FINAL PLAT FOR FAIRWAY ESTATES SUBDIVISION NUMBER 30. AND WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. SINCE I ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE HERE. SO THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS DONE MANY YEARS AGO. SO WHICH FOR OUR PURPOSES IT WAS HELPFUL BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS AND SOME ACTUAL PUBLIC WORKS STUFF WAS SOLVED WITH THAT. ONE THING THAT WE'VE DONE JUST WITH THE AMENITIES ON THE PUD, WHICH IS IN ORANGE BETWEEN THE BLUE AND THE YELLOW, WE HAD A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY. THAT WAS JUST PART OF KIND OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS CREATE SOME OF THAT WITH PATHWAYS AND TRAILS, ETC. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE AMENITIES THAT COME WITH IT. BUT ONE THING WE WANTED TO DO ADDITIONALLY WAS IN THIS DIVISION 30, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WAS WE HEARD A LOT FROM THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHAT I REFERENCED EARLIER, WALKING TRAILS. AND PEOPLE REALLY LIKE WALKING THROUGH THESE FIELDS AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, THIS ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE AS PART OF THIS IS I CAN'T REMEMBER, I THINK IT'S 12FT. I THINK IT'S EIGHT FEET PATH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH A COUPLE FEET ON EACH SIDE. BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN NOT ONLY A TRAIL THAT ACCESSES. SO THE TRAIL WILL GO FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THIS, WHERE IT WILL TEE OR WHERE IT WILL STUB. I GUESS I COULD PROBABLY USE THIS. IT WORKS. KEEP GOING. HOW DO I GET TO THE TOP? THERE WE GO. OKAY, SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LITTLE KIND OF IN BETWEEN. WE BORROWED A COUPLE FEET FROM ALL OF THESE. LOTS THAT BORDER THE GOLF COURSE. AND SO THERE'S A TRAIL WAY THROUGH. SO THIS OF COURSE IS THE PUD, BUT THIS WILL ACCESS IT MID-BLOCK. THIS OF COURSE WILL AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE A WALKING PATH. THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THIS THAT WILL BE ADJACENT TO THE CANAL, WHICH IS OF COURSE ON THE FAIRWAY. SO, YOU KNOW, WATCH OUT FOR GOLF BALLS I GUESS, BUT THIS WILL ALLOW SOME CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY. WE ALSO ARE WORKING WITH THE ADJACENT LANDOWNER ON THIS SIDE AS WELL. AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, CONTINUE THAT PATH ALL THE WAY AROUND. SO IT'D BE LIKE ALMOST LIKE A MILE KIND OF LENGTH LOOP, WHICH WILL BE, WE FEEL LIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE AND HELP FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEN WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOT REALLY RELEVANT HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND FROM ACTUALLY NOT PUBLIC WORKS. THE GOLF COURSE, WHATEVER THAT PARKS AND REC, THEY THEY WANT SERVICES OVER HERE. SO WE'RE WORKING OUT GETTING THEM THOSE SERVICES ON THIS NORTH PARK HERE SO THEY CAN GET THAT IN. AND THEN THERE'S A REMNANT PIECE THAT WE'RE WORKING IT OUT WITH IT ANYWAY. SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF MAKING IT ALL WORK SO THAT THE CITY CAN GET THE SERVICES THEY NEED FOR A RESTROOM. AND THEN ALSO SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, FINISH OUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL. THERE'S [00:15:06] DIVISION. PERFECT. THANK YOU. WELL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? OKAY. PERFECT CITY. ALL RIGHT. BRIAN STEVENS CITY PLANNING. I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH A COUPLE THINGS HERE REALLY QUICK. THIS HAS BEEN R-1 ZONE SINCE 2019. AND IT WAS PRELIMINARY PLATTED. AND THEY BASICALLY FOLLOWED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF VARIANCE OR CHANGE. AND THAT CHANGE IS PRIMARILY THIS LITTLE GREEN PIECE IS GOING OUT OF THE CITY'S OWNERSHIP AND INTO THEIR OWNERSHIP. AND WE WILL END UP WITH A PIECE OF LAND OVER HERE. I'M JUST GOING TO TRY AND FIND THE BEST. SO IT'S HARD TO SEE, BUT THERE'S A REALLY SMALL LOT RIGHT HERE. AND THAT WILL TAKE UTILITIES, A SEWER LINE AND A WATER LINE INTO THE GOLF COURSE TO AN UNDETERMINED LOCATION AS OF YET. FOR FOR A RUNNING WATER RESTROOM, RIGHT? THAT CURRENTLY THERE ARE BLUE ROOMS THERE OR PORTABLE TOILETS. SO THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ASKED FOR. AND THE APPLICANT WAS COURTEOUS ENOUGH TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO HELP FACILITATE THAT. AND WE FEEL LIKE THAT WILL BE A GOOD IMPROVEMENT. LET'S SEE, WE'RE LOOKING AT SO IT'S 14.22 ACRES AND IT IS 47 LOTS WITH 45 OF THOSE LOTS BEING BUILDABLE. I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD. WE'LL SEE A CONTINUATION OF WHISPERING ROCK LANE. SO AND SORRY I DON'T I CAN'T READ THAT. BUT THE DIFFERENT ROADS. SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE CONTINUATION OF THESE THREE ROADS WHERE THIS ROAD AND THIS ROAD WILL ACTUALLY BE FINALIZED. AND THEN THE ROAD ACROSS THE TOP, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS OF THAT IN THE FUTURE. AND THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL EXTENSION OF THIS ROAD, I THINK, WHICH IS EAGLE, EAGLE, WOOD LANE I, IN THE FUTURE THAT GOES INTO THAT CENTRAL AREA OWNED BY ANOTHER DEVELOPER. I THINK, OUT OF CALIFORNIA. BUT. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING COMPLICATED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT FOLLOWS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT. AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT AS PRESENTED. PERFECT. I THINK THE CITY. NO. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? OKAY. WELL NO. YES. YES. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO APPLAUD OUR DEVELOPER FOR I KNOW THIS WAS A COMPLICATED PROCESS. THE PUD, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS YOU GUYS GOT KIND OF GOT DRAGGED OVER THE COALS THROUGH FOR GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU MADE TO THE PLAN COMING OUT OF IT. THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY IS AWESOME. I THINK THE CITY IS GETTING IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PARK SYSTEM, AND THE GOLF COURSE IS GREAT. SO THANKS FOR THAT. APPRECIATE IT. PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I'LL GIVE THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. I RECOMMEND FINAL APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR FAIRWAY ESTATES DIVISION 30 TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND THAT? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. WE WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER HARGER, I STORE I MEAN, I I I I SCOTT PANTER OGDEN I MOTION PASSES. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, WELL THAT CONCLUDES OUR [4.I. PUD26-001: Planned Unit Development for Elara Homes at Willow Creek Cove for approximately 19.003 acres of Government lot 7, 14.973 acres in the S ½ of the SW ¼ of Section 6, Township 2 North, Range 38 East. Located north of W 33rd North, east of N 5th West, south of East River Lane, and west of N Boulevard extended.] BUSINESS ITEMS. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR HOMES AT WILLOW CREEK. DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND WHEN YOU COME UP, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OH I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER, BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH. PARTICIPATING IN PARTICULAR ITEM. BLOSSOM [00:20:06] REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WAS. I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT LAW FIRM. AND FOR THAT REASON, I WILL ALSO VOTE FOR THE PRESIDENCY. OKAY. CAN YOU SPEAK UP? CAN YOU SPEAK UP? WE DIDN'T HEAR. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOUR MIC IS OFF. WE'LL LET YOU GO AGAIN. YOU'RE GONNA MAKE ME DO ALL THIS OVER AGAIN. SORRY, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY MY FORMER LAW FIRM. I WAS A FORMER MEMBER OF THE LAW FIRM, AN EQUITY MEMBER, PRIOR TO MY RETIREMENT. AND IN ORDER TO AVOID ANY APPEARANCE OF ANY IN, OF OF ANY INTEREST IN THE MATTER, I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM VOTING AND PARTICIPATING IN THIS MATTER. THAT BETTER? YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR CATCHING UP WITH YOU. LET HIM DO THAT AND I FORGOT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. CALL AND READ ADDRESS 3967 SOUTH POWDER WOOD LANE, MAPLETON, UTAH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY. THE STAFF HAS TREATED US REALLY WONDERFUL. IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH CARRIE AND BRIAN. I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO ALL OF YOU TODAY. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THOUGHT AND A LOT OF WORK GONE INTO IT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL GET STARTED. I NOTICED A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS HERE TODAY THAT I MET AT THE PUBLIC MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS OR SO. I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY. JUST SOME QUICK BACKGROUND AND WE'LL FLY THROUGH THIS. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT WOULD FIT IN OUR THREE ZONE BEING A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING. AND WE'RE WE HAVE THE DESIGNATION, THE GENERAL URBAN DESIGNATION FO BUT JUST TO KIND OF CONFIGURE US, I THINK THE TOP ONE IS THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THIS IS OUR PROPERTY HERE. THE I AND L IS LOCATED JUST SOUTHWEST OF US. WE'VE GOT THE CHURCH HERE. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF WE'VE GOT THE TWIN HOMES, DUPLEXES APPROVED RIGHT HERE, SOME SINGLE FAMILY, SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES APPROVED RIGHT HERE. WE'VE GOT MIKE MARSHALL, H K CONTRACTORS, LABELLE, THE WHITES AND THE LDS CHURCH RIGHT THERE. AND SO AS I ZOOM IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, AGAIN, MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE SEE HERE TODAY ARE LOCATED FROM RIGHT HERE, HERE, HERE, RIGHT AROUND US. WE'RE JUST OFF OF 33RD, FOURTH, AND FIFTH WEST. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP. WE ARE IN THE GENERAL URBAN ZONE, AS IS TO OUR EAST, TO OUR WEST AND TO OUR SOUTH. TO OUR NORTH IS THE H K LAND LANDFILL. IT'S CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY PROPERTY. RIGHT NOW OUR PROPERTY IS IN THE IN THE CITY GENERAL URBAN. WE TOOK A LOOK AND WE SAID, OKAY, SMALL SINGLE UNITS, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, FOURPLEXES. APARTMENTS. TOWNHOMES, MULTIPLEXES, LIVE WORK UNITS, JUST A LOT MORE DENSITY IS WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN CALLS FOR. LOT SIZES ARE SMALLER AND MORE COMPACT THAN SUBURBAN AREAS, AND I THINK OUR PRODUCT FITS THAT DESCRIPTION VERY WELL. OUR THREE ZONING STANDARDS IS FOR A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, WHICH IS CHARACTERIZED BY A VARIETY OF DWELLING TYPES WITH A DENSER RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT. WE ARE ALLOWED UP TO 35 UNITS PER ACRE. THAT WOULD BE 1252 UNITS TOTAL. HOWEVER, WHEN WE'VE GONE, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF OUR ENGINEERS GO AND ACTUALLY DRIVE THROUGH IDAHO FALLS, AND THEY ACTUALLY TOOK STUDIES AND THEY KIND OF MARKED DOWN THE NUMBER OF RV TRAILERS THAT INDIVIDUALS HAD, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT PEOPLE NEED. AND WE ACTUALLY, WE REALLY TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WE WANTED IN THIS AREA TO THE SOUTH. AND THE BOTTOM LEFT IS AN IMAGE OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE. BUT INSTEAD WE ARE COMING FORWARD WITH A SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX PRODUCT. NO TOWNHOMES, NO APARTMENTS, BUT IT IS AT ABOUT TEN UNITS PER ACRE. AND I'LL GET INTO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT. I DON'T KNOW IF THIS VIDEO IS GOING TO WORK, BUT WE'LL SEE. THERE ON THE LEFT IS A IS A VIDEO, BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, MOST OF OUR UNITS ARE LOOKING LIKE THAT. THE DUPLEX UNITS, THEY COULD BE LOOKING EXACTLY LIKE THAT UNIT, EXCEPT YOU TAKE OFF THE FRONT DOOR AND THEN YOU HAVE A TOP DOWN UNIT. SO YOU HAVE A DOOR ON THE LEFT AND YOU HAVE A DOOR ON THE RIGHT. BUT [00:25:04] IT ALL LOOKS LIKE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES JUST LIKE THIS. THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, MANY OF WHICH HAVE GARAGES, SOME OF THOSE DUPLEXES DO NOT. SOME OF THE SMALLER SINGLE FAMILIES WOULD NOT EITHER. IF THIS VIDEO WORKS, WHICH I HOPE IT DOES, I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH A LITTLE BIT OF IT. SOME ADDITIONS THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE THIS VIDEO. THERE IS GOING TO BE A PLANTING STRIP. WE'VE ALSO EXPANDED THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM 60FT TO 70FT AS PER RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY STAFF TO BE A RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE HOMES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ONE IDENTICAL NEXT TO THE OTHER. WE REALLY WANTED THIS TO BE A REALLY GOOD SINGLE FAMILY FEEL. WE THOUGHT, OKAY, HOW DO WE FIT IN SOME KIND OF AFFORDABILITY? HOWEVER, PRESERVE THE SINGLE FAMILY LIFESTYLE. AND I THINK WE'VE DONE THAT HERE TODAY. SO I THINK THIS IS A AN AREA VERY WELL FITTED RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE INL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. IT CAN ALSO BE FOR RETIREES OR OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT JUST WANT A HOME THAT'S BETWEEN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1300FT■S TO UP TO 3000FT■!S ON THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME SIDE, AND THEN ABOUT 6 TO 700FT■S ON THE DUPLEXES FOR MAYBE SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED SOMETHING REALLY A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE. HOWEVER, WHILE PRESERVING SOME KIND OF A COMMUNITY FEEL, YOU CAN SEE WE PUT A LOT OF OUR OPEN SPACES REALLY CLOSE TO WHERE ANYBODY CAN WALK OUT INTO THEIR BACKYARD OR FRONT YARD, AND THEY'VE GOT SOME OPEN SPACES. I'LL GET INTO THE AMENITIES. THAT'S PART OF WHAT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. IF YOU'VE GONE THROUGH OUR LANDSCAPING PLAN AND KIND OF ALL OF THAT THAT WE SUBMITTED, IT'S VERY DETAILED, SO I'LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON IT. BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE 24 DIFFERENT TREE TYPES AND 27 SHRUB TYPES, AND THEY'VE REALLY GOT INTO A LOT OF DETAIL. AND WE HAVE A FULL PLANT SECTION THAT WE SUBMITTED TO YOU GUYS. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT AFTER WE ULTIMATELY DECIDE AND TALK MORE TREE LINED CORRIDORS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONNECTED COMMUNITY AREAS. I CAN USE THIS. WELL, I'LL GET INTO THE AMENITIES MAYBE, AND THAT'LL KIND OF SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE. REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE IS EIGHT. WE ARE PROVIDING 17 AMENITIES AND I VIEW THEM AS HIGH QUALITY AMENITIES. WE'VE GOT PICKLEBALL COURTS, WE'VE GOT CLUBHOUSE. WE'VE GOT COMMUNITY GARDEN BOXES THAT ARE HOA MAINTAINED. SO THEY'LL REMAIN HIGH QUALITY OVER TIME. WE HAVE OVER A MILE OF TRAILS THROUGHOUT OUR DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE THREE OUTDOOR FITNESS AREAS OUTDOOR PROJECTOR WALL WITH POWER STATIONS, CROQUET SET UP AREA, TWO DOG PARKS, REALLY BEAUTIFUL OPEN SPACE BY WILLOW CREEK. IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE TREES. AND THERE'S THOSE TREES ARE REALLY BEAUTIFUL IF YOU'VE EVER WALKED DOWN IN THAT AREA. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE THOSE TREES AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT A WALKING PATH NEXT TO THEM. WE'VE GOT TWO PLAYGROUNDS, ONE COVERED PICNIC AREA, ONE BENCH SEATING AT THE ENTRANCE BY THE WILLOW TREE. A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE. WE HAVE JUST ABOUT 36 ACRES JUST UNDER. SO THAT PUTS US AT. I'LL GO THROUGH THIS. 185 UNITS ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE HAVE 174 UNITS THAT ARE DUPLEXES. SO THAT'S 87 STRUCTURES. AND SO THAT TOTAL PUTS US AT 359 UNITS, WHICH IS 9.99 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS UNDER THE 35 THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN OUR ZONING. IT IS A DENSER PRODUCT. WE THINK IT FITS REALLY WELL IN THE R-3 ZONE AND THE GENERAL URBAN DESIGNATION WE WERE GIVEN. WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN 25% OPEN SPACE. WE HAVE PROVIDED 32% OPEN SPACE. AND RIGHT OVER HERE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE IN OUR SOME OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE'VE WE'VE EITHER SAT DOWN INDIVIDUALLY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS OR WE HAVE TALKED WITH THEM IN THE PUBLIC IN A PUBLIC SETTING. AND WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED CHANGES FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS. WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. WE WANT TO BRING IN GOOD RESIDENTS. I'LL GET INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND HOW WE ADDRESS THOSE. AND JUST JUST A SECOND PARKING, OFTEN WITH SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, PARKING IS AN ISSUE. WE ARE REQUIRED TO BY ORDINANCE AND WE ARE PROVIDING 2.47, WHICH IS [00:30:03] 171 EXTRA PARKING STALLS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT BEYOND WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN, AND ESPECIALLY WHERE THESE ARE SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT I THINK IT'S IT'S PLENTY OF PARKING. AND I THINK THAT WOULD PROVE TO BENEFIT US AS DEVELOPERS. AS WE START SELLING THESE OFF TO INDIVIDUALS THAT WILL LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW FIRST, AND THEN I'LL DIVE IN. EVERYONE LIKES TO HAVE THEIR OPEN SPACE, KEEP, YOU KNOW, STAY AS OPEN SPACE. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. HOWEVER, WE HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO MAYBE NOT WHERE WE PUT SOME OF OUR TWIN HOMES, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL NOTICE NONE OF THOSE TWIN HOMES ARE NOT NEXT TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL PARCELS THAT WE HAVE. IN FACT, IN OUR SOUTH EAST CORNER, THE LAVELLES LIVE THERE AND WE HAVE PUT NONE. OUR FIRST PLAT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER HAD SOME TOWNHOMES ABUTTING NEXT TO THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS TO THE NORTH, SOME APARTMENTS. AND AS WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE AREA AND WE SPOKE TO INDIVIDUALS, WE ADJUSTED THAT TO FIT ME A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BETTER FIT FOR THIS LOCATION. AND IT'S I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD FIT FOR THE ZONING. SO DESIGN, A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT THE DESIGN AND THE SITE PLANNING. SO ROADWAY WIDTHS, GARAGE SIZES, CONTRACTOR PARKING, OPEN SPACE USAGE. WE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. HOA MAINTAINS SOUTH AREA WILL BE USED AS OPEN SPACE AND IT WILL BE HOA MAINTAINED. ITS THAT TRIANGLE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT THE SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY. SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE THE PUBLIC MEETING THAT WE HAD. WE ADDED ACCESS ROAD FOR THE WHITES PROPERTY BASED ON THE PRIOR REQUEST. WE'RE ACTUALLY PURCHASING ABOUT ONE ACRE FROM THEM IN ORDER TO FIT IN THE ROAD, CONNECTING TO 33RD NORTH. AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE ANNEXATION PROCESS GOING. KERRY GOT BACK WITH US ON ON A FEW ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE THERE. AND SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN AND WE'RE SET FOR PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK JUST NEXT MONTH ON SEVENTH. SO AND THEN WE ADDED A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THAT WAS ABOUT I THINK IT WAS 15FT. IT COULD HAVE BEEN TEN. I WE DID IT TO CITY STANDARD. AND SO WE ADDED THAT AROUND. WE HAD TO ADJUST A FEW OF OUR ROADS, A FEW OF THE LAYOUTS AND WHERE ITEMS WERE, WE LOST SOME UNITS. SO INSTEAD WE ADDED SOME DUPLEX UNITS IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROJECT TO MAKE UP FOR SOME OF THAT LOSS AROUND THE EDGES. WE, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, HAD SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE IRRIGATION, ACCESS TO THE NORTH AND PIPING OF THE DITCHES WE HAVE MET WITH WITH THEM. WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR TALK WITH THEM AS WELL, AND WE HAVE ENSURED THAT WE WILL, AND WE WILL GIVE FULL ACCESS TO THE WATER THAT MEETS THEIR CURRENT NEEDS, MAYBE EVEN EXCEEDS THEIR CURRENT NEEDS, BECAUSE IT WILL BE HEIGHT OF THE IRRIGATION DITCH. AND SO WE WILL HOLD TRUE TO THAT. AND WE'VE HAD OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR TALK WITH THEM. AND I'M SURE THERE ARE STILL CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, BUT WE WILL WE'LL PROVIDE THAT ACCESS. ANOTHER NEIGHBOR INQUIRED ABOUT ELECTRIC. OH IN THAT SAME NEIGHBOR DID EXPRESS HAPPINESS ON THE. NOT HAPPINESS OF COURSE CHANGES ISN'T ISN'T HAPPY FOR FOR MANY INDIVIDUALS LIVING HERE. BUT THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD, GOOD PRODUCT FOR NEW HOME BUYERS. AND I THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS KIND OF PRODUCT IN THIS AREA. THE SECOND NEIGHBOR INQUIRED ABOUT ELECTRIC FENCE RELOCATION COSTS AND PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING TREES. SO THERE'S SOME WILLOW TREES RIGHT ALONG WILLOW CREEK. THERE ARE PINE TREES RIGHT ALONG THE FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY THERE THAT CONTINUES ONTO THEIR PROPERTY AS WELL. THE PINE TREES ARE ARE REALLY PRETTY, SO WE'VE WE ARE AIMING ON THE WILLOW TREES. WE'RE AIMING TO PRESERVE AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN SOME UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE NORTH END RIGHT BY THE NOT WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANY OF THEM DOWN, BUT WE ARE CLEANING UP SOME OF THE BRANCHES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A PATH THAT GOES THAT GOES NEXT TO IT ON THE PINE TREES. THE STATUS IS CURRENTLY UNDETERMINED WHERE OUR INTENT IS TO KEEP THEM, WE HAVE NO INTENT TO CUT THEM DOWN. HOWEVER, WE KNOW OF 33RD NORTH EXPANDS WITHOUT OUR WE. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. SO OUR INTENT IS TO KEEP THEM. HOWEVER, THE CITY DECIDES THAT THE FUTURE PLANS ARE TO EXPAND THAT. THEN THE CITY WOULD MAKE A DECISION ON THAT, NOT US. AND THEN ON THE FENCE. WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT IT AFTER. BUT WE DIDN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION. WE SAID, I THINK AS WE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION, WHERE WE GET INTO FINAL PLANNING, WE COULD START [00:35:04] TALKING ABOUT RELOCATION OF THE FENCE THAT'S ON OUR PROPERTY. THERE ARE SOME FORCES THAT ARE ON OUR PROPERTY CURRENTLY WITH THE FENCE THERE, AND WE'RE GREAT WITH THAT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH WITH. THE THIRD NEIGHBOR ASKED ABOUT ROADWAY CONFIGURATIONS, AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY SAID, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PLACE FOR OUR CHILDREN TO MOVE IN. AND AS A DEVELOPER, THAT FELT REALLY GOOD. IT IS A FAMILY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAVE BUILT THESE HOMES TO BE HAVE EXPANSION OPTIONS SO THAT INDIVIDUALS CAN GROW INTO THEIR AREA JUST A LITTLE BIT. THE REST WERE ABOUT KIND OF IMPACT FEE ITEMS, BUT I KNOW THAT IMPACT FEES WERE ADJUSTED JUST RECENTLY. AND SO BRIAN AND CARRIE REACHED OUT TO US AND SAID, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL COVER IN PLANNING COMMISSION, SORRY, CITY COUNCIL. AND IT'S CHANGED A LOT OVER THE LAST LITTLE BIT. SO WE'RE ADJUSTING THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT THAT'S ALL AT THIS TIME. AND PERFECT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE VERY THOROUGH PRESENTATION. MUCH APPRECIATED. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COMMISSIONER? I KNOW WE TALKED QUITE A BIT AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT WHAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT. AS FAR AS DENSITY AND HOUSING TYPES GO, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH ON WHY YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHAT THE MODIFICATIONS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING FROM THE CITY ARE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WELL BELOW YOUR, YOUR DENSITY RATE. YEAH. SO OUR THREE, I BELIEVE THEY, THEY REQUIRE SOME DIFFERENT BUFFERS BETWEEN THE ACTUAL LOTS. SO I THINK WE HAVE IN SOME CASES FIVE FEET AND FIVE FEET. SO THAT'S TEN FEET BETWEEN HOMES. I THINK THE REQUIREMENT IS SEVEN. AND I'M NOT WRONG. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I CAN, BUT THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. ANYONE ELSE. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. WE WILL GO ON TO HEAR FROM THE CITY STAFF. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AGAIN, BRIAN STEVENS WITH CITY PLANNING. SO COLIN DID AN EXCELLENT JOB COVERING MOST EVERYTHING. AND I WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION. SO I HEARD 359 UNITS. I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN 321. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THE 359. I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER OF LOTS OF. OPEN SPACE OR COMMON AREA LOTS IF THERE ARE ANY. BUT THAT THAT BEING SAID, THEY'RE WELL BELOW THE DENSITY. AND THEN I JUST WANT TO GET IN TO THE HISTORY. SO I WAS OUT OF THE ROOM WHEN YOU RECUSED YOURSELF. BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS ANNEXED IN IN 2005. SO IT'S IT'S BEEN R3 FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND SO WE HAVE HAD AN EXPECTATION OF, YOU KNOW, OR WE HAVE KNOWN AS A CITY THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME DENSITY HERE. THE PUD MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BASED ON THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THE DEVELOPER IS LOOKING AT TO DEVELOP IN THE. SO THEY HAVE A FLEXIBLE HOUSING MODEL. AND WHEN COLIN COMES BACK UP, I WOULD LIKE HIM TO EXPLAIN HOW IT HOW IT. YOU CAN STEP IN TO THE PURCHASE OF THE HOME AND POTENTIALLY BUILD ADDITIONS ONTO THE HOME. I THINK THAT'S A VERY UNIQUE, VERY SPECIAL AND VERY THOUGHTFUL PROCESS THAT THEY BROUGHT TO US. AND SO I WANT TO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND I WANT THEM. I WOULD ASK THEM TO SPEAK TO THAT. AND THEN. SO SO I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE, BUT WE DID CHANGE THE TABLE IN THE STAFF REPORT. SO IF YOU LOOK, THIS IS 40 SOME PAGE STAFF REPORT AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT WE DID THAT. SO WE WANT TO SHOW YOU ALL OF THE PUD RULES AND THEN ALL OF, OF HOW THEY MET OR, OR WERE NOT APPLICABLE OR, YOU KNOW, BUT THESE GUYS MET ALMOST EVERY POSSIBLE THING IN HERE. AND A LOT OF THE ONES THEY DIDN'T MEET WERE ASSOCIATED WITH COMMERCIAL. AND THAT BEING SAID, PUDS, YOU HAVE A CHOICE OF THE ONES YOU WANT TO PICK. YOU KNOW, LIKE IDEA IS NOT THAT YOU HIT EVERY SINGLE ONE RIGHT, BUT THAT YOU KIND OF PICK AND HIT A FEW AND THEN THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND SO WE GET IT. [00:40:04] WE AS A CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS AND THE PUBLIC THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIVING THERE, GET SOMETHING RIGHT. AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THEY GET A REDUCED SETBACK OR VARIANCE ON CERTAIN THINGS. AND SO I DID WANT TO GO INTO THAT. I'M JUST LOOKING HERE. SO THIS TABLE IS THROWN ME A LITTLE BIT FOR A LOOP. BUT WE WE'VE ASKED FOR REDUCED. SO ON PAGE THREE THEY'VE ASKED FOR REDUCED DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, SITE WIDTHS AND SETBACKS AND REDUCED VEGETATION ON PRIVATE STREETS. RIGHT. AND SO THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. TREE LINED STREETS AND THE PUBLIC STREETS. RIGHT. AND THEN THEY'RE FACING ALL OF THEIR HOMES ONTO GREEN SPACE. AND, AND SO THE FRONT OF THE HOME HAS A REALLY NICE ENGAGED AREA. AND WHERE THE VEHICLE IS, YOU KNOW, THAT KEEPS THE PEDESTRIAN PRIMARILY OUT OF THAT AREA, WHICH MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. AND SO I WANT TO KIND OF EXPRESS THAT I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. AND, AND I'VE GIVEN THIS A LOT OF REVIEW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PROBABLY THE LARGEST PUD I THINK WE'VE SEEN IN IDAHO FALLS TO DATE. AND SO THAT WAS THE ONE GOING THERE AND JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT ELSE WOULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT. SO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE R3, IF WE WERE TO TURN TO PAGE EIGHT OF TEN IN THE. SO THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL ZONE. SO. SO THEY COULD. IN ESSENCE, INSTEAD OF DOING A PUD, THEY COULD BREAK THIS AREA UP INTO LOTS OF OF 5000FT■S, RIGHT. THAT WOULD BE THE MINIMUM SIZE OF A LOT. AND THEN IN THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A SITE WITH THE 50, THEIR FRONT WOULD BE 15FT, THE FRONT MAXIMUM. SO AND THEN THEIR SIDE WOULD BE SIX AND THERE WERE REAR WOULD BE 25. AND WITH THE R3 ZONE AND THE MULTIFAMILY, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, TO HAVE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S ADJACENT TO THEM. THEY'VE CHOSEN TO PUT SINGLE FAMILY IN THERE, PUD ON THE PERIPHERY, RIGHT? SO IT'S SINGLE FAMILY AGAINST SINGLE FAMILY, YET THEY'VE STILL PROVIDED AMPLE, PRETTY THOUGHTFUL OPEN SPACE ON THE PERIPHERY. SO AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE SUBSTANTIAL CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME TO TO CONSIDER THAT. AND SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO HIT THAT LOT COVERAGE THERE. THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OVER THE 25%. THEY'RE WELL ABOVE THE 25% AND THEY'RE WELL OVER ON THEIR AMENITIES. RIGHT. AND SO OVERALL, I'M HAPPY TO STAND FOR QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, SO WHAT I'M GOING TO TRY AND DO THIS BECAUSE I, I WASN'T SURE WHAT THE NEW TABLE WERE TO PUT WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE REASONABLE CONDITIONS OR CONDITIONS THAT YOU GUYS COULD CONSIDER. BUT SO I SAID STAFF'S REVIEWED. SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF'S REVIEWED THE PUD AND FIND THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ZONING ORDINANCE BEAUTY REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CRESCENT PUD WITH. THEN I GO BACK HERE AND THIS MIGHT TAKE ME A MINUTE TO FIND. BUT THERE'S A SECTION ON CONDITIONS. PAGE THREE. IS IT ON PAGE THREE? OKAY. THANKS FOR. OKAY. SO POSSIBLE CONDITIONS. RIGHT. AND THESE ARE THESE ARE YOUR GUYS'S PURVIEW. AND YOU CAN USE ANYTHING IN THIS TABLE, BUT THESE ARE THE ONES SO DITCH SLASH NEIGHBOR IRRIGATION WATER RESOLUTION. SO IN THAT AFFECTS THE LAYOUT, RIGHT? SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE LAYOUT OF THE HOUSES IN THAT WHERE POTENTIALLY THEY COULD BE OBSTRUCTED. SO WE WANT TO SEE A RESOLUTION TO THAT. OR I WOULD ASK THAT WE JUST MAKE SURE THERE'S A CONDITION AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT AND THEY WANT TO WORK THROUGH IT. BUT WE WE WANT IT ON RECORD THAT WE CAN WE, WE SEE A RESOLUTION THERE, RIGHT? AND THEN AREAS THAT MAY RECEIVE ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS IN THE FUTURE ARE FULLY LANDSCAPED OR COVERED BY HARD SURFACE UNTIL THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS WILL MAKE MORE SENSE WHEN COLIN COMES UP AND TALKS ABOUT THE, THE TIERED APPROACH TO HOUSING. SO WE CAN GET SOMEBODY IN AT THE CHEAPEST LEVEL, RIGHT? WE CAN GET AN ENTRY PERSON INTO THE HOME. AND THEN AS THEY AS THEIR INCOME GROWS OR THEIR THINGS ADVANCE, THEY CAN EXPAND AND OR FINISH OUT THEIR GARAGE. [00:45:06] SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S WHERE THAT CONDITION WOULD COME IN TO, TO LIE. AND THOSE, THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE POSSIBLY THAT ARE POSSIBLE FOR YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS, I GUESS THERE ARE OTHER ONES, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE THINK ARE THAT I THINK ARE THOUGHTFUL AND, AND GOOD IN NATURE. SO OTHERWISE I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD. I'LL, I'LL STAY HERE. I KNOW THIS IS A BIG PROJECT. I SUSPECT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME QUESTIONS FOR EITHER THE APPLICANT OR MYSELF, OR WE CAN COME UP AFTER THE PUBLIC PROCESS IS HAS RUN ITS COURSE AS WELL. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF SO FAR? NO. PERFECT. I'D LIKE TO JUST CLARIFY BECAUSE EVEN THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS GIVEN IN THE CITY AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING INDICATES 321 UNITS. OUR STAFF REPORT INDICATES 321 UNITS, YET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 359. I WOULD LIKE IT CLEAR WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE APPROVING, EITHER 359 OR 321 UNITS. SO. SO LET'S SO AS I STATED RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, LET'S CORRECT IT TO THE. 359 THAT'S THAT'S THE NEW VERSION. SO I WENT BASED OFF OF THE NUMBERS WITH THE ORIGINAL THING AND THAT I WRITE THE REPORT, WE GO 14 DAYS THINGS. WE NOW GO INTO OUR SECOND STAGE OF REVIEWING OF THE PUD AND SOME NUMBERS CHANGE, RIGHT. BUT THEY'RE WELL BELOW 1300. RIGHT. AND SO I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S THOUGHTFUL PROCESS. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH IT. AND SO I WOULD, BUT I WOULD USE THE. 359 OKAY, I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT WHY THAT CHANGED. WHAT CHANGED SPECIFICALLY? THANK YOU. ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY, REALLY THE WHOLE BOUNDARY. WE DID NOT HAVE A 15 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT FOR THE FIBER. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE REALLY POWER FOR THE POWER. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND SO WE WERE WE WERE REQUIRED TO MOVE A LOT OF OUR UNITS AND HOMES. AND WE LOST A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO WE HAVE ADDED IN A SECTION OF DUPLEXES THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE. THEY WERE ALREADY BY THE DUPLEXES. AND SO IT INCREASED THE NUMBER TO 356 HOMES. 59. THANK YOU. THAT'S NOT NOT A THIRD NUMBER. THE ONE THAT I HAVEN'T DONE RIGHT HERE. MEMORY. ISN'T THAT GREAT I GUESS. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR BRIAN? I GUESS WHILE I'M UP HERE, I'LL JUST POINT OUT WHAT COLIN WAS TALKING ABOUT. SO THESE IN THE YELLOW AND ORANGE, THOSE ARE THE MULTIFAMILY OR THE DUPLEX STRUCTURES, RIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE SOME DUPLEX. SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'VE SURROUNDED THOSE BY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. AGAIN, MULTI-FAMILY, MULTI-FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY, MULTIFAMILY AT THE LOWEST LEVEL. SO DUPLEX STYLE. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I HAVE A OKAY, PERFECT LOOK AT EVERYONE'S FACES. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT HOW THESE UNITS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES CAN EXPAND. BUT AS FAR AS THE DENSITY IN THE TABLE THAT WE REVIEWED, IS THAT REFLECTIVE OF THE MAXIMUM DENSITY AND THE MAXIMUM BUILD OUT OF THOSE HOMES, OR IS IT ASSUMING THE MINIMUM? SO LET ME LET ME ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE END. AT PAGE EIGHT, RIGHT. AND WE WERE TO TAKE THAT 35 UNITS PER 36 ACRES, WHICH GIVES US THE 1300 UNITS, RIGHT? THE THE 359 THAT THEY'RE THAT NUMBER THAT THEY'RE THAT WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON. RIGHT. OR WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR THIS DISCUSSION THAT NUMBER, ONCE THIS PLAN IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE THE LIMITING NUMBER WITHOUT COMING BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. EVEN WITH THESE ADDITIONS, ADDITIONAL SPACES BEING ADDED, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ADD ADDITIONAL LIVING [00:50:05] UNITS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, HAD A QUESTION TO ONE MORE. I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE MODIFICATIONS REQUESTED TO GIVE. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE PACKET IS IT'S LARGELY BASED ON THE SETBACKS AND LOT SIZES. WE'RE IN A REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW WHERE THE STATE HAS JUST CHANGED WHAT CITY INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES CAN CALL A MINIMUM LOT SIZE IN ANY ZONE. OR IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE IF THIS DEVELOPER WAITED A COUPLE OF MONTHS, THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A SITUATION WHERE THIS WOULD NOT BE A VARIANCE AT ALL? SO WE HAVE YET TO DECIDE THAT. SO, I MEAN, WE TALKED AS A CITY STAFF THIS MORNING ABOUT LEGISLATION AND THE ADOPTION OF THAT LEGISLATION INTO OUR CODE. AND AND YES, POSSIBLY. BUT THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THERE, AND WE CAN ADDRESS THAT IN A MULTITUDE OF WAYS THROUGH OUR CODE. AND SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY ALLOW IT. WE COULD ATTENTION. WE WE COULD ALSO MAKE IT CHALLENGING TO HAVE IT FIT IN THIS AREA. THAT'S ULTIMATELY OUTSIDE OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO GUIDE THAT. WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THAT. AND, AND THEN WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND WE WANT THE DECISION TO BE BASED ON WHAT THE CITY WANTS. RIGHT. THE STAFF JUST LIKES TO TAKE WHAT THE CITY WANTS AND TRIES TO PUSH THAT. WHAT WE HEAR IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE SURVEYS AND ALL OF THAT, AND THAT OUTCOME IS ABOUT WHAT KERRY 12 MONTHS AWAY. SO SOMETHING WILL BE CHANGING WHAT IT IS WE DON'T KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. MIGHT AS WELL. SINCE WE HAVE YOU UP HERE. I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I GUESS WE'LL HEAR ABOUT THE FLEXIBLE HOUSING THING NOW, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU. YOU'RE STILL PLANNING ON THAT? YEAH. OKAY. I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST. WE CAN JUST DO IT ALL NOW AND THEN. YEAH, JUST. YEAH. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO THESE HOMES FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO COME IN MAYBE AT A LOWER PRICE POINT CLOSER TO THE THE MID 300 SECONDS, MAYBE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND THEN THEY WANT TO EXPAND INTO A GARAGE AND MAYBE THEY WANT TO EXPAND FROM THERE. WE'VE BUILT A MODEL AND THE LOTS, AS YOU CAN SEE, GOOD EXAMPLE IS ON THE VERY NORTHWEST SIDE NEXT TO THE MARSHALLS. I HAVE THIS RIGHT HERE. THESE ARE SOME OF OUR BIGGER LOTS. SO SOMEBODY COULD MOVE INTO THESE ONES RIGHT HERE. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SOMEBODY COULD REALLY AFFORD THAT. BUT MAYBE THEY WANT TO EXPAND INTO A GARAGE OR MAYBE THESE HOMES RIGHT HERE CAN EXPAND ACTUALLY UP TO 5000, 6000FT■!S, SIX BEDROOM, SIX BEDROOM. THANK YOU. THIS IS OUR ENGINEER HERE. HE'S AWESOME. HE CAN ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS IF WE ■GOT INTO THE DETAILS, BUT THAT'LL COME IN FINAL PLAT APPROVAL, OF COURSE. BUT RIGHT NOW FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT, WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS, IS FOR THE LOTS AND FOR ALL OF THAT. AND THEN WE CAN DIVE INTO THE DETAILS AT THAT POINT. BUT FOR NOW, KNOW THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT FLEXIBILITY IN THESE LOTS, ONE LOT. IT'S ALL STRUCTURED. IT'S NOT CHAOS. IT'S IT'S VERY STRUCTURED. THERE'S A DETAILED PLAN ON WHAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE HOMES CAN BE, AND THERE'S A LIMITED NUMBER OF OPTIONS. SO THERE'S HOUSE WITH A GARAGE, HOUSE WITH GARAGE, WITH SOME LIVING SPACE ABOVE IT. SO THAT CAN EXPAND INTO LIKE FROM, LET'S SAY, 1260FT■!S INTO A 1760 SQUARE FOT HOME. SO YOU'RE GOING THREE BEDS, TWO BATHS INTO SOMETHING THAT'S, WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU CONFIGURE THE REST OF THE 400FT■S. SO. SO JUST TO ADD SOME CLARITY TO THAT, I THINK THERE ARE TWO LINKS IN OUR ELECTRONIC PACKET. ONE IS THE YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT YOU PLAYED BRIEFLY AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE HOMES THERE. AND THE OTHER IS A LINK TO THE FLEX PLAN OF BUILDING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BUILD A HOME THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, BUT THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU BUILD A HOME WITH THE FOOTINGS POURED FOR A GARAGE, BUT IT'S AN EMPTY SPACE INITIALLY TO KEEP THE PRICE POINT LOWER THAN IF THE HOMEOWNER WANTS TO ADD THAT ON. THE FOOTINGS ARE ALREADY THERE. YOU CAN BUILD SOME WALLS, ENCLOSE A GARAGE, AND EVEN BUILD SOME OTHER LIVING SPACE BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS ON TOP OF IT. IS THAT ACCURATE FROM WHAT I'M SEEING FROM THE LINKS, YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'VE [00:55:05] UNDERSTOOD IS LIKE LATER ON, LIKE, LET'S SAY LIKE A YEAR, IT DOESN'T CHANGE OUR DENSITY, IT DOESN'T CHANGE OUR SETBACKS OR ANYTHING WITH THIS APPROVAL. IT'S JUST THAT THE HOME IS BUILT WITH THE ABILITY TO ADD ON TO IT ALREADY BUILT INTO THE FOOTINGS AND FOUNDATION. SO YEAH, NICE CONCEPT. OKAY, SWEET. ALL RIGHT. WELL, NOW WE WILL GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING. SO JUST A QUICK FEW THINGS ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING. WHEN YOU COME UP, JUST GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN KEEP YOUR COMMENTS SOMEWHAT BRIEF. BUT YEAH, THIS, THIS ISN'T A Q AND A, BUT IF YOU DO HAVE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, WE'LL TRY TO ADDRESS IT LATER IN THE MEETING AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING. BUT REALLY, THIS IS JUST FOR YOU TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION YOUR SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. AND REALLY IT'S JUST YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS. AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH THAT. THE FIRST ONE TO JUMP UP, MY NAME IS BRANT COLBURN. I LIVE AT 314 ROCK CREEK CIRCLE IN SAGE LAKES, NICE PRESENTATION FROM THE GENTLEMAN HERE. A NICE CLOWN FROM OUT OF TOWN. I'LL CALL HIM. I WISH THE PEOPLE FROM SAGE LAKES DEVELOPMENT WERE HERE SO I CAN CALL THEM A FEW MORE NAMES, BUT THEY. THEY DECIDED TO LEAVE EARLY. TO ADD A FEW MORE COMMENTS THAT I HAD FROM THEIR PRESENTATION DIRECTLY TO THEM. THE. THE PUD. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE STILL DOING THESE. THEY'RE. THEY'RE THIS THIS DENSITY OF HOUSING IN IDAHO FALLS IS RIDICULOUS. THE THAT AMOUNT OF, OF DEVELOPMENT IS, IS UNCALLED FOR. THAT THAT TYPE OF HOUSING, ALL IT DOES IS INCREASE TRAFFIC AND INCREASE CRIME. IT'S UNCALLED FOR. IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT THAT LOT OVER THERE, IT CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. IT JUST CAN'T. YOU JUST SAID THE CITY JUST SAID THAT'S THE LARGEST PUD THIS CITY HAS SEEN. PERIOD. TALKED. YOU TALKED BIG NUMBERS. HE SCARED US WITH, HEY, OUR THREE KIDS CAN SUSTAIN THIS AMOUNT OF HOUSING, BUT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO THIS. HE TALKS. YOU KNOW, HE TALKS TO US LIKE THAT AND SAYS THAT IT CAN YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THIS MUCH, BUT WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO THIS TO MAKE US FEEL ALL NICE AND COMFORTABLE. DOESN'T MAKE ANYBODY FEEL ANY MORE COMFORTABLE WHEN WHEN WE HAVE TO LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SORRY. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. SOME OF THOSE UNITS, FROM WHAT I LOOK AT THEM, AT LEAST FOUR OF THOSE UNITS CAN FIT IN THIS ROOM ALONE. REALLY? THAT THAT'S THAT'S NOT LIVING. THAT IS HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. AND LET'S CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE. APARTMENTS. THE SAME THING I TOLD THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BUILDING THE LAKES, THEY ARE APARTMENTS. THEY ARE NOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, APARTMENTS. IT'S JUST CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE. RIGHT? SO YOU CAN TELL US THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE AN HOA. THEY'RE LIVING IN SAGE LAKES WHERE I LIVE. WE HAVE AN HOA HOA'S HAVE NO TEETH, PERIOD. WE HAVE ONE. MY NEIGHBOR HAS A TRAILER THAT SITS OUT ON HIS STREET, DOESN'T MOVE HIS LAWN. WE HAVE WEEDS THAT ARE THIS HIGH. I HAVE ANOTHER GUY WHO WHO ROUTINELY FIXES HIS CAR OUT IN HIS DRIVEWAY, WHO HAS 4 OR 5 CARS DOWN THE ROAD FROM HIM THAT THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BROKEN DOWN IN HIS YARD. YOUR HOA IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO FIX THAT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE RVS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BROKE DOWN? HOA IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO FIX THAT. WHY? THEY HAVE NO TEETH, PERIOD. RIGHT? SIR, YOU NEED TO KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE. I CAN TALK, YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. YEAH. YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS US. YOU CAN'T ADDRESS THE THE. I CAN LOOK AT SOMEBODY, THOUGH, RIGHT? YOU WERE OKAY. FINE, FINE, FINE. LAST COMMENT TO THE INDIVIDUAL SITTING BEHIND ME AGAIN, THIS COMMISSION WILL DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. PERIOD. YOUR COMMENTS WON'T MATTER. WILL NOT MATTER. MY NAME IS LAVELLE PAC. I HAVE A 264 WEST 33RD NORTH [01:00:16] FOR THAT. BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. LET'S START WITH THE DENSITY. WE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE UNITS. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME ROAD STUDIES. WE LIVE ON THAT ROAD. WE'VE GOT A DEVELOPMENT GOING IN JUST JUST SOUTH OF THAT, JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE, THAT EAST RIVER ROAD, THEY WENT IN AND PUT A TURN THING IN THERE. I LIVE ON THAT CORNER AND IT'S A DANGEROUS CORNER NOW. I SAT UP THERE THE OTHER NIGHT AT 5:00 FOR 15 MINUTES, TRYING TO GET OUT ON EAST RIVER ROAD, AND BY ADDING THESE UNITS. IF WE GOT 359 UNITS, YOU'RE TALKING. EVERYBODY HAS TWO CARS. HUSBAND AND A WIFE. 700 CARS IN THE MORNING, 700 CARS AT NIGHT. THAT'S 1400 MORE CARS ON THAT ROAD. AND IF THEY COME HOME AT NOON, IT JUST GOES UP. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS THAT. WE HAVE THESE HIGH DENSITY AREAS. WHY ISN'T THE DEVELOPER HELD RESPONSIBLE TO DEVELOP THE ROAD IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? SHOULDN'T WE MAKE THEM DEVELOP THE ROAD ALSO? BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T DEVELOP THE ROAD, THEN WHO'S STUCK WITH IT? THE TAXPAYERS. IF THAT DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T GO IN, WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT TRAFFIC. SO THESE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THEY'RE ALL OUT OF STATE. UTAH, CALIFORNIA. YOU HEARD THAT, WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY BAD. BUT THEY COME IN, THEY DEVELOP, THEY SET IT UP, THEY LEAVE. AND WE'RE DEALT WITH THE AFTERMATH. YOU PUT THAT MANY HOUSINGS IN THOSE THREE DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S GOING IN. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT. WHAT IS THE SCHOOLS. WHERE'S WHERE'S THE COMMON AREAS FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GO AND HANG OUT? IT'S JUST SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER. I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE GOT TO DO IT SMART. WE GOT TO LOOK AT THESE AREAS. WE CAN'T JUST PUT HIGH DENSITY AREA ON EVERY CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION. SO I COVERED THAT. ANOTHER THING IS I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING MENTIONED ABOUT A MOSQUITO ABATEMENT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS NEED TO LOOK AT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THAT CORRECT IS A NATURAL, CORRECT AND CANNOT BE ALTERED. IT CAN'T BE CHANGED. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT OR THEY'VE BEEN TALKED TO OR ADDRESSED. I LIVED THERE. I KNOW I CAN'T CHANGE THAT GRID. PUTTING IN THESE HIGH DENSITY AREAS. YOU GUYS KNOW THERE'S A PROBLEM AT FAIRWAY ESTATES WITH WATER PRESSURE. YOU GOT THE SAME WATER LINE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THIS HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THE NEXT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THE WATER PRESSURE? WHAT ABOUT THE SEWER LINE? IS THERE ANY LOOKING AT ANY OF THAT STUFF THAT THAT IT CAN HANDLE THIS TYPE OF HIGH DENSITY IN THOSE 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT AREAS? HE SAYS THEY DON'T LOOK THE SAME. GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO. YOU CHANGE A WINDOW FROM THIS SIDE TO THIS SIDE. EVERY ROOF PITCH IS THE SAME. THEY LOOK THE SAME. SO LET'S BE HONEST, THEY DO. THE HOA, THEY DON'T WORK. WE TRY TO PUT THEM IN PLACE AND THEY STRUGGLED. I KNOW SEVERAL HOA'S AND JUST LIKE THE LAST GENTLEMAN, THEY STRUGGLE WITH IT. IT DOESN'T WORK. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME TYPE OF DIFFERENT GOVERNMENT OF THAT COMMON GROUND OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO USE THE HOA FOR. THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH SNOW REMOVAL OUT THERE AT FAIRWAY STATES. THE CITY CAN'T GET OUT THERE AND GET IT DONE. THEY LIVE OUT THAT FAR AND IT TAKES A WHILE. WHO'S GOING TO REMOVE THE SNOW? NOW, LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY. I GET IT, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN. AND SO WE HEAR IT ALL THE TIME THAT THE THE. SNOW REMOVAL GUYS, THEY CAN'T GET OUT THERE. I GO TO FAIRWAY ESTATES HERE AND THERE AND JUST PULL PEOPLE OUT BECAUSE THEY GET STUCK IN THE ROAD. THEY TALKED ABOUT PUTTING A PIPE IN. I'VE GROWN UP ON A FARM MY ENTIRE LIFE. WHEN YOU PIPE WATER, THAT FAR SETTLEMENT GETS IN THOSE PIPES. YOU GOT TO HAVE A WAY TO CLEAN THEM OUT. AND WHO'S GOING TO CLEAN IT OUT? WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT? THOSE ARE JUST SOME CONCERNS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, BECAUSE WHEN THE [01:05:06] DEVELOPER IS DONE WITH THIS, THEN WE'RE STUCK WITH DOING THIS. SO IT'S ALL GOT TO BE PUT IN PLAN FIRST. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS THE FENCE THAT WAS MENTIONED. I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 25 YEARS. THERE HAS BEEN TWO LANDOWNERS BEFORE ME. THAT FENCE WAS BUILT 25 YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS PUT IN THERE ON PURPOSE TO KEEP MY HORSES ON ONE SIDE AND THE COWS ON THE OTHER. WE AGREED TO BUILD THAT FENCE WHERE IT WAS AT. NOW THEY TALK ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION DOWN THERE AROUND THAT CREEK. IT'S BECAUSE MY HORSES HAVE CLEANED IT OUT. YOU LOOK WHERE MY HORSES DON'T GO. YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK THROUGH THERE. I ASKED THEM IF I UNDERSTAND. IT'S NOT ON MY PROPERTY ANYMORE. AND THIS PROBABLY DOESN'T HOLD ANY WATER. BUT THE LAST TWO OWNERS THAT WAS TRYING TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY AND SELL IT AND GET THE CHURCH INVOLVED. THEY TOLD ME TO BE QUIET AND NOT MAKE A FUSS, AND I WOULD END UP WITH THAT LAND BECAUSE IT'S UNDEVELOPABLE. EVEN AT A SMALL PRICE, I WAS WILLING TO PAY AND THEY TOLD ME THEY'D SELL IT TO ME. THEY BOTH RENEGED ON THEIR DEALS. WE HAD NOTHING IN WRITING AND I'VE LEARNED MY LESSON. THAT FENCE HAS BEEN THERE 25 YEARS NOW. YOU CAN'T TELL. I ASKED THE DEVELOPER TO HELP ME MOVE IT. HELP PAY FOR IT. HE TOLD ME. NO, YOU CAN'T TELL. BUT I'M AN AMPUTEE, 60 YEARS OLD. I LOST MY LEG WHEN I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD. I CANNOT GO DOWN IN THERE AND BUILD A FENCE THAT NEEDS TO BE BUILT. THAT WILL BE AN UNDUE HARDSHIP FOR ME. AND WHEN I ASK FOR HELP, I GOT NOTHING. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU? THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HELP US. AGAIN, I'M NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. IT'S JUST THINGS THAT WE GOTTA ADDRESS. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION IS WE. WE PUT IN THESE HIGH DENSITY PLACES. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, BUT I SEE THEM AS YOU LOOK AROUND AT THESE DEVELOPMENTS. AND I KNOW THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT WE NEED MORE HOUSING, WE NEED MORE HOUSING. BUT REALLY, HOW MANY OF THESE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, WHETHER THEY BE HOMES OR APARTMENTS OR WHATEVER, ARE EMPTY BECAUSE THEY'RE RUN DOWN AND NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE IN THEM ANYMORE? I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER. BUT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THESE DEVELOPMENTS, THERE'S A LOT THERE'S THERE'S MORE THAN THERE THAN I THINK THAT WE TAKE CREDIT FOR. I WROTE A NOTE HERE. I CAN'T READ IT. I CALLED MORE. BUT I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I GOT. SO I JUST WANTED YOU GUYS TO TAKE OUR CONCERNS. UNDER UNDER ADVISEMENT. I THINK IT'S TOO DENSE. COME IN THERE AND BUILD SOME NICE HOMES. THEY SAY $300,000 WITHOUT A GARAGE. IS THAT AFFORDABLE? THEY CALL IT AFFORDABLE. I DON'T THINK IT IS. I HAVE SOME FRIENDS THAT JUST BOUGHT A NICE HOME FOR 350,000. IT'S A HOME ON THE I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE ON THE NUMBER STREETS. HE'S GOT A NICE BIG YARD. HE'S GOT A GARAGE. HE'S GOT A SMALL SHOP IN THE BACK. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WHEN WE LOOKED AROUND AND WHAT'S OUT THERE, EVERYTHING IS 300, 350,000. YOU CAN BUY HOMES ALL DAY LONG LIKE THAT. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CALL IT AFFORDABLE, AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT EITHER. SO ANYWAY, AGAIN, PLEASE CONSIDER THE THINGS THAT I'VE SAID AND TAKE IT UNDER ADVISEMENT. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL THE A LOT OF WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP. SO THE LAST ONE WANTS TO CONSIDER ANYONE ELSE. MR. CHAIR, I DO HAVE A COMMENT TO READ INTO THE RECORD THAT THE STAFF HAS ASKED TO READ INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. PERFECT. YES. THIS COMES FROM BRIAN EDGERTON FROM 6175 NORTH FIFTH WEST. HE STATES INCREASED FIFTH WEST TRAFFIC CONGESTION OVER 35 YEARS. NUMEROUS DEVELOPMENTS SAGE LAKES GOLF COURSE AND SINGLE FAMILY HOME, FIFTH WEST RURAL FARM LANE. LIGHT TRAFFIC TURN TO OFF CONGESTED CITY STREET, NUMEROUS STREETS AND DRIVEWAYS ADDED. IN RECENT YEARS, INCREASED PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND BICYCLE RIDERS. CURRENT SPEED LIMITS ON SOUTH 33RD NORTH 35MPH AND TRANSITION TO 50MPH NORTH AT 33RD NORTH. EXISTING 50 MILE PER HOUR NORTH TOWER ROAD AND [01:10:07] FIFTH WEST CURVES TO BEND, LIMIT SITE DISTANCE AND NEW NORTH ENTRANCE AT SAGE LAKE TOWNHOMES ACCIDENT PRONE LOCATION IN THE FUTURE. FATAL INTERSECTION. INTERSECTION. ACCIDENT TWO WEEKS AGO AT 87TH NORTH. SAFETY SUGGESTIONS TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY RECOMMENDATION TO REDUCE THE APPROPRIATE MAXIMUMS. REVISIONS OF 35MPH. 33RD NORTH TO 87 NORTH. THANK YOU. AND I'M ASSUMING THIS IS OKAY. YEP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? I THINK. MY NAME IS EVELYN. CAN I GET YOU TO PULL THE BIKE CLOSER? MY NAME IS EVELYN RAY AND I LIVE AT 6530 NORTH, FIFTH WEST, RIGHT ON THE CORNER. AS YOU TURN TO GO UP TO THE GOLF COURSE, WE HAVE THE BIG ROCKWELL DEVELOPMENT GOING ON RIGHT BEHIND US. IT'S MY FATHER'S FARM, AND I UNDERSTAND JUST UP BY THE CANAL AS YOU GO EAST, UP TO LEWISVILLE HIGHWAY. AND THEY'RE PUTTING IN ANOTHER HOUSING ADDITION RIGHT THERE WHERE MY BROTHER HOUSES HORSES AND ACROSS THE CANAL. WE ALSO HAVE TWIN HOMES, WHICH ARE ALL DEVELOPED, BUT THEY ARE DEVELOPING. YOU GUYS JUST PASSED TWO MORE IN FAIRWAY ESTATES. AND LET ME TELL YOU, THE TRAFFIC IS HORRID. IT GOES ON UNTIL 1 OR 2:00 IN THE MORNING. PEOPLE ROAR IN THEIR ENGINES AND MOTORCYCLES RACING UP AND DOWN 65TH AND IT'S HARD OUT THERE. THE TRAFFIC WILL JUST INCREASE. WHEN I WAS YOUNG, I GREW UP THERE. I'M 70 YEARS OLD. I GREW UP THERE, MOVED OUT THERE WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD. WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I RAN OUT OF GAS AND I SAT ON THAT ROAD FOR HOURS BEFORE SOMEONE COULD COME. NO CELL PHONE WAS AVAILABLE HOURS, AND NOW IT'S JUST A STEADY STREAM. BOTH WAYS TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY. I LIVE RIGHT ON THE CORNER. WE CALL IT DEAD MAN'S CURVE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY ACCIDENTS OUT THERE. WELL, THEY FIXED IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, BUT WE STILL HAVE ACCIDENTS. WHEN I PULL OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY, I HAVE TO REALLY LOOK TO MY NORTH BECAUSE THEY COME AROUND THAT CURVE SO FAST. NO ONE STOPS AT THE STOP SIGN IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S A YIELD SIGN, BECAUSE IT'S A T, YOU'RE JUST GOING TO INCREASE. INCREASE. OUR ROADS ARE NOT BUILT TO HANDLE THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THEM, NOR OUR HIGHWAYS, NOR IS OUR CITY. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO DEVELOP, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALSO THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE. I CAN'T SAY THAT WORD. SORRY OF WHAT IS GOING ON. FAIRWAY ESTATES TOTALLY AGAINST IT. MY DAD FARMED ALL THAT LAND OVER THERE. BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE NICEST PEOPLE LIVE THERE AND I LOVE THEM. BUT THEY NEED SPACE. PEOPLE NEED SPACE FOR THEM, THEIR CHILDREN. IF MY FAMILY LIVED OUT THERE, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY WE COULD HAVE A FAMILY PARTY. NO WAY. MY STEP MOTHER IN LAW LIVES IN A 600 SQUARE FOOT APARTMENT. SHE HAS JUST ADDED ON TINY, TINY, TINY, NOT A KITCHEN AVAILABLE. NOT A ROOM FOR A DINING TABLE. A LITTLE BATHROOM, A LITTLE BEDROOM. AND THAT'S IT. THOSE ARE WAY TOO SMALL. WAY TOO SMALL. PUT TWO OF THEM TOGETHER. WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY? MAKE THEM NICE WHEN PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE IN THEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. TOWER ROAD AND SEVENTH EAST ROAD. PLANNING RESPONSIBLE. SO I'M NOT SURE OF [01:16:06] THE QUESTION, BUT TOWER ROAD AND SEVENTH EAST ROAD. SO WE'RE WE'RE AT 33RD AND FIFTH. EXCUSE ME. TOWER IS 65TH. OKAY. AND WHAT IS SEVENTH EAST? SEVENTH EAST. CORRECT. WELL LEWISVILLE HIGHWAY IS 50, 50. OKAY. I'M ASKING THEM WHAT BOULEVARD DOES IT BE? SEVEN. SEVEN EAST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF LEWISVILLE. YES. THAT'S RIGHT, SEVEN EAST. EAST. OKAY. IS THIS AN ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON THIS ROAD? I CAN'T READ THE CARD. OH, THE ACCIDENT JUST HAPPENED. SO. 60 1/75 NORTH, FIFTH WEST. OH. YOUR ADDRESS. RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW, FALLS, IDAHO, 83401. BRIAN AND DEB EDGINGTON AND THAT'S THAT'S WHERE YOU. RESIDE. AND THEN ROAD PLANNING. SO. SO ARE YOU ASKING A QUESTION ABOUT ROAD PLANNING? SO ROAD PLANNING IS COVERED WITH THE BONNEVILLE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION. AND MAYBE IT WOULD BE. SO BRIAN, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. OKAY. JUST KIND OF ADDRESS THIS QUESTION NOW. YEAH. CAN WE TALK AFTERWARDS AND THEN WE CAN COMMUNICATE BEFORE THIS GOES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? THANK YOU. THANKS, EVERYONE FOR HELPING. SO. MY NAME IS BRIAN WHITE AND WE LIVE ON 392 WEST 33RD NORTH IMMEDIATELY. EAST OF THE CHURCH AND WEST OF THE CEMETERY. FULL DISCLOSURE WE'RE SELLING AN ACRE TO THE REEDS. AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, AS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, I. I SUPPORT WHAT EVERYBODY HAS SAID SO FAR. I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT YOU GUYS ARE DEALING WITH IN THE CITY THAT WILL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE BIGGER ROADS AND WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM, PROBABLY MORE FOR YOU GUYS THAN ANYBODY ELSE TO KEEP THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT ARENA, NOT JUST THIS ONE, BUT OTHERS FROM BECOMING A FIASCO. PROBABLY WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT A LITTLE HISTORY. I APPRECIATE WHAT THE REEDS ARE TRYING TO DO IN THE IDEA OF MAKING HOMES MORE AFFORDABLE FOR YOUNG NEW BUYERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE EXPENSIVE, BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS BIGGER THAN ALL OF US HERE. I THINK THE PROBLEM STEMS FROM BIG FUND MONEY BUYING US HOME HOMELAND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND DRIVING THE PRICE UP. I THINK THAT'S THE THE BEDROCK PROBLEM THAT WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH. I WAS JUST ON THE WAY OF TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE REEDS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO. THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TOWARDS OUR NEEDS IN [01:20:01] MOVING THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT, WHERE THAT MAIN ROAD COMES DOWN AND HITS 33RD NORTH, MOVING IT A LITTLE BIT TO THE EAST TO KIND OF PRESERVE THE THE NATURAL AREA RIGHT THERE, AND ALSO. MIKE'S NEEDS. MIKE MARSHALL'S NEEDS FOR IRRIGATION. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH THING TO FACE THE GROWTH. YOU KNOW, WE'VE LIVED ON THIS FIELD FOR 30 YEARS AND HAVEN'T FACED ANYTHING LIKE THIS. BUT I THINK THAT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS FINANCIALLY, THE REEDS ARE FACING, I THINK THEY'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS THEY CAN. AND THAT'S MY FINAL WORD. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANY OTHER TAKERS? THANK YOU. FOR 825 GLENEAGLES DRIVE. FIRST OF ALL, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK, BUT LAVELLE SAID PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I WANTED TO SAY. I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. I MEAN, IT'S GETTING REALLY DANGEROUS FOR THE ROAD. AND 33RD. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN PULL TRAFFIC OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE 33RD. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE. WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR RIDING THAT ROAD? WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR WIDENING THE EAST RIVER ROAD, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. THE DENSITY OF THOSE HOMES IS UNBELIEVABLE THAT THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO PULL ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT ONTO OUR ROADS. FAIRWAYS. I'VE BEEN THERE 29 YEARS. IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, TEN TIMES BIGGER THAN WHEN I BOUGHT THERE. AND IT'S WHEN THEY KEEP ADDING TO THAT. BUT THIS DENSITY OF THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE. AND YOU CAN'T CALL THOSE AFFORDABLE HOMES. THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A GARAGE. 370,000 DOWN TO THE GARAGE. I DON'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK THEIR CARS, TWO CARS PER HOUSE. THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE ON THE ROADS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. THEY REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER PROBLEMS, THE ROADS. THERE'S A LOT THAT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED, NOT JUST THE BEAUTY OF THE HOMES AND THE SURROUNDING AMENITIES. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS JANINE WHITE AND I LIVE AT 392 WEST 33RD NORTH. I JUST WANTED TO GET UP AND SAY THAT ALL OF THESE CHANGES ARE FOR WHAT I STARTED OUT WANTING IN MOVING TO IDAHO FALLS AND ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY THAT I DID. EXCUSE ME. THESE KINDS OF CHANGES ARE HORRENDOUS TO MY SOUL, AND I KNEW WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PLACE THAT WE WERE IN THE AREA OF IMPACT AND THAT THERE WAS A GREAT POSSIBILITY THAT THINGS WOULD CHANGE DOWN THE ROAD. AND IN LOOKING AT WHAT THEY HAVE ANNEXED AND APPROVED FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF 33RD NORTH, AND THAT FIELD OVER THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT ALL OF THAT THAT ARE SCARY AND DEALING WITH OUR HOMES AND THE READS. I HAVE FOUND THEM TO BE HAVE INTEGRITY, CONCERN FOR THINGS THAT ARE, YES, HIGH DENSITY HOMES IN IN THAT WAY. THEY'RE NOT APARTMENTS. THEY'RE NOT THREE STORY APARTMENTS, WHICH WHAT I'M AFRAID OF FOR ACROSS THE ROAD. AND THEY'VE KEPT IT TO THE SIZES THAT THEY HAVE. AND YES, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE MONEY THEY NEED BECAUSE BUYING THE PROPERTY WAS HORRENDOUS. IF YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU KNOW, 30, 35 YEARS AGO, $2,000 AN ACRE INSTEAD OF THE WHATEVER. I JUST SPEAK NUMBERS. BUT SO I JUST WANT TO CAST A VOTE OF, YES, THIS IS ALL HARD AND CHANGE IS HARD. THIS OLD DOG DOES NOT LIKE LEARNING NEW TRICKS, BUT I THINK FOR WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, THAT THE READS ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB AND THAT IF THEY. IF THEY. I SAY THAT WITH AN IF. BUT I FEEL HAVING DEALT WITH THEM WHAT I HAVE FELT ABOUT HOW THEY BEHAVE AND HOW THEY COME THROUGH, THAT THEY WILL STICK TO THEIR WORD AND DO THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE SAID THEY'LL DO, AND THAT THEIR EFFORTS TO CREATE WHAT LOOKS TO BE A PRETTY NICE AREA FOR RATHER HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. [01:25:03] YOU KNOW, I COULD TALK TO THE I WON'T SAY THE WORD MY SON IN LAW CALLS THEM, BUT THE ONES ACROSS EAST RIVER ROAD THAT LOOKED LIKE LITTLE ARMY BARRACKS HOUSES OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE THINGS ARE A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING TOO. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL OVER THE CITY NOW, HERE AND THERE. AND PERSONALLY, I HAVE A LOT OF GOOD FEELINGS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT'S NOT EASY. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT PREPARED TO TAKE ALL THE IMPACT THAT WE'VE BEEN BRINGING TO IT WITH ALL OUR DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE A GROWING CITY. NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT EXCEPT MOVE FURTHER AWAY. AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I'M TOO OLD. THIS OLD DOG DOES NOT WANT TO LEARN THOSE NEW TRICKS. ANYWAY, MY VOTE IS THAT I THINK THAT THEY'RE TRYING HARD TO DO A GOOD JOB, MAKE MONEY ON THEIR PROJECT, WHICH IS WHAT THEY SET OUT TO DO, BUT DO A GOOD JOB AND HAVE INTEGRITY IN WHAT THEY DO. AND THAT'S MY $0.02. THANK YOU. I FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT MY NOTES WERE. I'M GLAD YOU DID. ACTUALLY, I REALLY AM. IF I MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE ALL THE TIME. PRETTY SIMPLE. WE WANT TO PUT A WALKWAY AROUND THE CREEK. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, LIKE, SAY, THAT THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. IS THAT CORRECT? THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE. THERE'S AT LEAST A 30 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY THAT THEY GOT TO HAVE FOR THAT CANAL. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE WALKWAY WILL GO AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY SMARTER THAN YOU ARE. I HOPE THAT'S WHY WE PUT YOU WHERE YOU'RE SITTING TODAY. BUT BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. THEY TALK ABOUT THE PATHWAY AND THE. ISN'T THAT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAYS AND DEALING WITH THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS? PERFECT. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. I THINK THE WHOLE ROOM WENT. ALMOST ANYONE ELSE? YES. YES. OH, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN TOO. SORRY, I FORGOT TO HAVE YOU, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN DO THAT. OH, THAT WAS PERFECT. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW I'M BROTHER. HE IS MY BROTHER. I'M HIS ONLY SISTER. I AM EVELYN RAY. AND AGAIN, I, I, I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HE'S DOING, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU COULD CONTACT OR WHAT, BUT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET HOLD OF THE HOA FROM FAIRWAY ON THE CORNER THAT I LIVE ON. IF YOU LOOK TO THE SOUTH RIGHT THERE, THEY PUT BIG ROCKS IN THERE BECAUSE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, THEIR EASE WAY OR WHATEVER. I HAVE CALLED. BONNEVILLE COUNTY WEED CONTROL FOR THE LAST 4 OR 5 YEARS, BECAUSE ALL IT IS IS A FIELD OF THISTLE. AND NOW MY LAWN HAS THISTLE IN IT. YOU THINK THAT'S FUN? NO. SO I WOULD SAY WHATEVER KIND OF A BOARD THEY PUT ON, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY FAIRWAY ESTATES PUT LAWN ON ALL THE REST OF IT. AND THAT END HAS GOT ROCKS AND ROCKS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO TO CONTACT TO GET HOLD OF THAT, TO TELL THEM TO GET THAT SPRAYED, CUT DOWN OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THAT ROCKWELL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE, LIKE I MENTIONED. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT'S A MESS UP THERE. THEY'VE GOT IT'S JUST A MESS. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO TO GET HOLD OF TO SPRAY THOSE WEEDS AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE WEEDS. IF YOU GUYS WOULD KNOW ANYONE OR WHAT I COULD DO, WE CAN PUT YOU IN, PUT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. TO JACK BLACKWELL, 4880 RIVERBEND LANE AND STATE LAKE. I JUST WANT TO SAY, FIRST OFF, WE MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE LOVE IDAHO FALLS. WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY FOR IT. I DON'T LIVE IN UTAH FOR A REASON. I DON'T WANT UTAH TO COME HERE. AND THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS HAPPENING WITH THE UTAH DEVELOPERS, BOTH THIS ONE AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S BUILDING IN SAGE LAKES, WHICH I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY WITH THAT. WE WOULDN'T DO THAT. THERE IS NO THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THIS. THAT ROAD IS A TERRIBLE ROAD WITH PATCHWORKS FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE GONE SO FAR. IF WE CAN'T FIX THE ROAD AND MAKE THE ROAD RIGHT, WE CAN'T ADD MORE TO IT. ALL YOU DO IS INCREASE THE TRAFFIC. YOU INCREASE THE PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE. THERE'S PEOPLE RIDING BICYCLES DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME. I'M SURPRISED NOBODY'S GOT KILLED YET. WE STILL HAPPEN. THERE'S NO LIGHTING ON THAT ROAD. THE WATER PRESSURE IS TERRIBLE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE TO SUPPORT THIS. PERSONALLY, I WOULD NEVER BUY IN A HIGH DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD. SOMEBODY MIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS. BUT PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES WHAT I MOVED HERE IN IDAHO FALLS AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS TO ME AND EVERYBODY [01:30:04] I KNOW, THAT'S MY FRIENDS. THEY MOVED HERE FOR THE SAME REASON. A FAMILY, COMMUNITY, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WE DEVELOP TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH, NOT TO NOT TO HAVE SAN FRANCISCO OR UTAH MOVE INTO OUR AREA. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING. I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS, THE PLANNING. IT'S GREAT, BUT I WOULD GO PUT IN DELTA, UTAH SOMEPLACE OTHER THAN THAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND I'M GOING TO NOW GIVE THE DEVELOPER TO A CHANCE TO JUST ANSWER SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BROUGHT UP TONIGHT. I'LL BE FAIRLY SHORT WITH MY COMMENTS. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT IN OUR STUDY THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHEN WE ACTUALLY DROVE AROUND, WE ACTUALLY MARKED THE HOMES THAT HAD TRAILERS AND IT WAS SURPRISINGLY HIGH. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TRAILER PARKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS REASON, JUST OVER HERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR PROJECT, KIND OF WHERE HE'S CIRCLING THAT WE DO HAVE TRAILER PARKING FOR THE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE TRAILERS. SO I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE. PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THAT. AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ENGINEERS, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF, AND WE WOULDN'T RECOMMEND PUTTING ANYTHING THAT IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE, WHICH FROM EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN, IT CAN HANDLE IT. AND WE'RE EXCITED TO TO PUT IN OUR PART AND MAKING A GREAT DEVELOPMENT. WE DID ALSO DRAW OUT THE CANOPY LINE. I DIDN'T GET INTO THOSE DETAILS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I NEED TO, BUT WE'RE OUT OF THE FEMA AND WE'RE ALSO OUT OF THE CANOPY OF THOSE WILLOW TREES. SO WE ACTUALLY PURPOSEFULLY, WE COULD HAVE BUILT CLOSER, BUT WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO CUT SOME OF THOSE WILLOW TREES OFF AND WE DECIDED NOT TO. WE DO HAVE A STRUCTURE TO THE NORTHEAST, TO THE IRRIGATION DITCH. GREG, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS SPECIFICALLY TO HELP WITH THE DEBRIS GOING INTO THE PIPE. SO WE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE. AND THEN, LAVELLE, WE WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A LOOK. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR ELECTRIC FENCE THAT YOU PUT IN THERE, BUT LET'S MAYBE CHAT AFTERWARDS AFTER THIS MEETING AND WE CAN TALK. WE WE JUST I LIVE IN UTAH AND SO SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO LEAD UP, BUT WE'D LOVE TO CHAT AFTER TODAY. OKAY. LOTS TO TALK ABOUT. WE WANT TO GO FIRST AMONGST THE COMMISSION. I GUESS I CAN GO FIRST, COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. QUESTION. AND THAT IS ABOUT THE COMMERCIALS. IRRIGATION. AND WE HAVE ASSURANCES THAT THIS HAS BEEN WORKED OUT. BUT WE STILL HAVE THIS PIECE OF PAPER HERE THAT DOESN'T GIVE. WE DON'T WANT A FUZZY FEELING. SO ARE WE ARE WE OKAY ON THAT AS A CITY? OKAY WITH THAT? KERRY, DO YOU WANT. EITHER ONE? AS FAR AS THE IRRIGATION QUESTIONS, THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD NEED TO WORK THROUGH AND WORK THROUGH WITH THE IRRIGATION COMPANY. AS FAR AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHAT YOUR CONCERNS SHOULD BE, THEY INDICATE AN EASEMENT OF 40FT AND THEN THE ENCROACHMENT OF STRUCTURES INTO THAT EASEMENT. AND SO THAT THAT ISSUE WOULD NEED WOULD POTENTIALLY RESULT IN REDESIGN OF THE PUD AND MOVING STRUCTURES OUTSIDE OF THAT EASEMENT, IF THAT WAS THE RESOLUTION. SO I DO THINK THERE IS SOME CLARIFICATION THAT IS NECESSARY FROM THE APPLICANT REGARDING THE STATUS OF OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WHAT THE ACTUAL EASEMENT IS REGARDING THAT 40 FOOT EASEMENT. BUT REALLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT FROM A LAYOUT PERSPECTIVE, NOT FROM A, YOU KNOW, WATER ISSUE, IRRIGATION TYPE THING. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW IT AFFECTS THE LAYOUT OF THE PD. OKAY. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LEGAL PEOPLE ARE THAT WE'RE NOT SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR SOME SORT OF A LAWSUIT OR SOMETHING. HERE IS YOUR MIC ON, I APOLOGIZE, IT IS. I'M. DID YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT [01:35:01] WHAT I SAID? NO. THAT'S BETTER. OKAY, SO CAN I ANSWER THAT OR, I MEAN, I JUST SEE THIS LETTER HERE THAT MAKES ME THINK, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS SOMETHING THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ASK TO BE ADDRESSED. IF THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS SEVERAL OPTIONS IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT AS YOU CONSIDER MOTIONS. IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WERE TO APPROVE THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, YOU COULD ADD A CONDITION REQUESTING THAT THE APPLICANT MEET WITH THEM AND RESOLVE THAT ISSUE PRIOR TO IT GOING AND PROCEEDING ON TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT COURSE OF ACTION WOULD END IN A RESOLUTION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO TABLE THE PUD TONIGHT REQUESTING THAT RESOLUTION OF THAT EASEMENT CONCERN BE LOOKED AT AND RESOLVED, AND THE APPLICANT COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH WHAT THE RESOLUTION OF THAT ISSUE IS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO DENY AN APPLICATION AS WELL. YOU WOULD NEED TO NOTE THE REASONS FOR THAT DENIAL. THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THOSE THREE OPTIONS AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. PERFECT, COMMISSIONER. I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT CONTINUOUSLY COME UP BEFORE THE COMMISSION. WITH PUBLIC COMMENT THAT FOR SOME REASON, HAS THE ERRONEOUS UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN CONTROL. NUMBER ONE IS ROADS. UNFORTUNATELY, I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE ANY DEVELOPMENT UNTIL WE'VE GOT THE ROADS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE MONEY TO BUILD THOSE ROADS COMES FROM IMPACT FEES THAT COME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S THEN A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COMMISSION, NOTHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL OR, OR APPROVE OR DENY A DEVELOPMENT BASED ON ROADS. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS AS A COMMISSION WITH THE ROAD DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING AND KNOW WHERE SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS ARE. WE'RE WIDENING IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO BE ABLE TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO JUST TABLE, PUT A BLANKET MORATORIUM ON ANY DEVELOPMENT UNTIL WE HAVE ALL THESE BIG WIDE ROADS IN PLACE. THAT WOULD BE MARVELOUS. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT, AND WE CAN'T DO THAT AS A COMMISSION HERE. IT'S A GREAT THING TO TALK TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL ABOUT. NUMBER TWO IS SCHOOLS. I INITIALLY JOINED THE IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHEN I GOT INVOLVED WITH THE CITY WITH AN A GOAL IN MIND THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP USE THESE IMPACT FEES TO DEVELOP SCHOOLS AND PUT SCHOOLS IN PLACE THAT WILL HOUSE THE CHILDREN THAT ARE COMING INTO THESE DEVELOPMENTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S A GREAT CONVERSATION WITH YOUR IDAHO STATE LEGISLATORS, BECAUSE IN THE STATE OF IDAHO, SCHOOLS CANNOT BE FUNDED BY IMPACT FEES. THEY CAN ONLY BE FUNDED BY BONDS. AND THE 7 OR 9 YEARS I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY, I'VE SEEN THE BOND FOR DISTRICT 91 FAIL FOUR TIMES, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO FUND SCHOOLS. SO YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH SCHOOLS ON THESE DEVELOPMENTS, THEN DON'T TALK TO US. GET OUT. TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND LET'S GET THOSE BONDS PASSED. WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION. IN OUR PURVIEW TONIGHT IS EITHER AS FAR AS AFFORDABILITY FOR THESE HOUSES. I WISH HOMES WERE MORE AFFORDABLE IN IDAHO FALLS. I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN HOMES TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE IN IDAHO. I HAVE A SON WHO'S SMALL FAMILY, JUST BOUGHT A $350,000 HOME THAT LOOKS JUST LIKE THESE IN ANOTHER CITY IN IDAHO, AND WAS LUCKY AS HECK TO GET INTO IT. I THINK BECAUSE THAT'S THE AFFORDABLE PRICE OF HOMES IN IDAHO. I'M THRILLED TO SEE HOMES LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE BUILD OUT OPTION. WE TALKED ABOUT PARKING AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THERE. EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE A STRUCTURE FOR SOME OF THESE HOMES, FOR A GARAGE OF WALLS, THE PAD IS THERE. THAT'S WHERE PARKING GOES. AND TELL A STRUCTURE IS BUILT. IF IT'S NOT AFFORDABLE FOR THAT HOME BUYER RIGHT NOW. BUT MY KIDS CAN'T LIVE HERE BECAUSE IT'S UNAFFORDABLE, MANY OF THEM. AND THAT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME. I LOVE TO SEE THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. I'M FULLY IN FAVOR OF IT. I AGAIN WISH WE COULD DO SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT IT, BUT THAT DOESN'T COME UNTIL WE HAVE THE MONEY FROM THE IMPACT FEES AND THOSE THINGS COME DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN. LOVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO FUND THAT, BUT SO FAR WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH [01:40:02] IT. SO THOSE ARE SOME THOUGHTS I HAVE AND JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS. BECAUSE WE DO CARE, WE DO LISTEN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW. AND THIS WAS ZONED R-3 IN 2005, 21 YEARS AGO. I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD DEVELOPMENT FOR AN R-3 ZONE. AND FOR THE RECORD, PRIOR TO THIS, WE JUST APPROVED TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL FLATS. SO I DON'T THINK WE ARE ALWAYS DOING HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ANYONE ELSE? I SEE A LOT THAT I LIKE HERE. I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE COME OUT TO SPEAK BOTH IN FAVOR AND AGAINST. IT'S VERY RARE THAT WE HEAR FROM NEIGHBORS WHO ACTUALLY COME OUT AND SPEAK POSITIVELY ABOUT A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT GOING UP ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY. SO THANKS TO THOSE WHO DID. THERE'S A BELIEF THAT WE DON'T CARE OR THAT WE DON'T LISTEN. WE DO TO BOTH. IT'S JUST THAT, AS COMMISSIONER OGDEN SAID, MANY OF THE THINGS THAT GET BROUGHT UP AT THESE MEETINGS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE VALID CONCERNS, ARE OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMISSION, AND THEY'RE NOT VALID REASONS FOR US TO APPROVE OR DENY BASED ON SOME OF THAT COMMENTARY. SO WE CAN ONLY GO BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO, WHICH IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT FITS OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, OUR PUD ORDINANCE, AND OUR CITY ZONING CODES. RIGHT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT'S IN OUR PURVIEW TONIGHT. AND I SEE EVERYTHING HERE IS IN THAT SCOPE. WHEN I HEARD THAT THIS IS THE LARGEST PUD THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE CITY, I BELIEVE THAT'S BASED ON ACREAGE AND NOT BASED ON TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS. AS THE DEVELOPER, AS CITY STAFF HAVE TOLD US, THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT ARE ZONED HERE BY RIGHT IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WE ARE SEEING HERE, AND THAT THE VARIANCES THAT ARE REQUESTED TO THE CITY CODE ARE BASED ON SETBACKS AND LOT SIZES. AND AS I TOUCHED ON EARLIER, THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE STATE IS TELLING US WE HAVE TO SHRINK IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF IDAHO, THAT NO SINGLE MUNICIPALITY CAN FORCE A SINGLE LOT SIZE LARGER THAN 1500FT■S IN ANY ZONE. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE STATE IS TELLING US WE HAVE TO BE VERY SOON. A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA BE ON OUR AGENDA LATER IN THE EVENING ARE ADDRESSING OTHER CONCERNS ABOUT RECENT CHANGES TO THE TO STATE ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE TO GET IN IN LINE WITH. AND SO WHEN I SEE THIS, THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN A HOUSING UNIT LIKE THIS VERY MUCH IN IDAHO FALLS. I BOUGHT A HOME ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE 1200 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY NEW HOMES BEING BUILT. NO ONE WAS DOING IT AT THE TIME. NO ONE HAS BEEN DOING IT IN BETWEEN SINCE. THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF HOUSING THAT PEOPLE ARE CLAMORING FOR IN TOWN. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO BUY A $100,000 HOME IN THE NUMBERED STREETS TEN YEARS AGO, I DIDN'T. THOSE HOMES ARE ALL $300,000 NOW. THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF THE MARKET WE'RE IN. TO GET A NEW HOME AT THAT PRICE POINT IS GENUINELY A LUXURY AT THIS POINT. SO THESE ARE VALID CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT AFFORDABILITY. IT'S JUST THAT PRODUCT DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. A HOME, A SINGLE FAMILY, FREESTANDING HOME UNDER $300,000 JUST DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE. UNFORTUNATELY. I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MAP THAT WE SEE IN FRONT OF US. THIS IS THE PERFECT SLIDE FOR IT. THERE HAVE BEEN CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE. I DO BELIEVE THE PROPERTY LINE EXTENDS BEYOND THAT. WHITE SPACE IS SPACE FOR FUTURE ROAD DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. SO OUR DEVELOPER HAS GIVEN US THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THIS ROAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST FOR BOTH 33RD NORTH AND FIFTH WEST. SO THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING IN THE PLAN. HERE IS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS ROAD AND OUR CITY. IMPACT FEES ALSO PAY FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. THERE'S CONCERNS YOU KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP. WE NEED TO MAKE DEVELOPERS WIDEN THESE ROADS. WE CAN'T MAKE DEVELOPERS PHYSICALLY BUILD ROADS, BUT OUR IMPACT FEES ARE WHAT PAY FOR THIS. AND NEW IMPACT FEE SCHEDULE WENT INTO EFFECT YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE. YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS ACTIVELY INTERESTING. AND THAT'S THE END OF MY RIGHT. OH, [01:45:07] PERFECT. THANK YOU. WELL, AND ALSO TO MENTION THE CITY HAS ALREADY HAD IMPACT FEES NOW FOR FOUR YEARS. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW THEY HAVE TO SAVE UP THE MONEY AS WELL TO THEN DO THESE BIG GIANT PROJECTS. AND WITH THE, WITH THE WITH BONNEVILLE COUNTY AND WITH IDAHO FALLS, IT TAKES A LOT OF PLANNING AND FORESIGHT. THERE ARE LOTS OF ROADS ALREADY IN BONNEVILLE COUNTY AND IDAHO FALLS SCHEDULED TO BE WIDENED. IT'S ALREADY BEEN SELECTED BY THE MPO, WHICH IS A REGIONAL PLANNING ORGANIZATION. THEY JUST THEN HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY AND SLASH SAVE THE MONEY TO THEN GET THESE PROJECTS DONE. AND SO BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE GROWTH OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE IMPACT FEES SLASH TAX BASE TO SUPPORT THOSE PROJECTS, BECAUSE WE DECIDED TO WIDEN EVERYTHING NOW AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WORLD WAR THREE BROKE OUT. WELL, THEN I GUESS WE'RE NOW ALSO BANKRUPT. SO BECAUSE NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT. SO I WISH, YOU KNOW, IF I WAS A DICTATOR, I WOULD WIDEN ALL THE ROADS RIGHT NOW. BUT WE CAN'T. SO I DID WANT TO BRING UP THOUGH THIS, THE WILLOW CREEK, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, WE'VE HEARD THAT IN THE PAST ACTUALLY WITH OTHER PROJECTS. AND I'M I'M GLAD THAT MR. PECK BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE HE REMINDED ME OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE CAN ANSWER TO THAT. WHEN IT COMES TO THE RIGHT OF WAY WITH THE PATH, OR I KNOW FOR SURE THE CREEK CAN'T BE CHANGED, I HOPE IT ISN'T CHANGED BECAUSE IT LOOKS NICE NOW, YOU KNOW. BUT WHAT IS THAT? WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE PATHWAY AND AND THE RULES CONCERNING THAT CREEK, CAN ANYONE ANSWER THAT? IS THAT POSSIBLE? IF NOT EITHER APPLICANT OR THE CITY OR ENGINEER TO THAT PROCESS? ENGINEER. ENGINEER IS. THIS IS THE MAN THAT KNOWS. MY NAME IS GREG MAGLEBY. I'M WITH THE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT, WILLOW CREEK. IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN PERHAPS ON THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THERE'S SETBACK LINES ON THERE. THERE'S 30 FOOT ON EACH SIDE, SETBACK. IT IS A DESIGNATED WETLAND IN THE ACTUAL CREEK BED ITSELF. AND SO WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TOUCH THAT. THE ONE THING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO TOUCH OR TO AMEND IS GOING TO BE THE BOX CULVERT TO GO UNDER THE ROAD. AND SO WITH THE ARMY CORPS, YOU CAN DISTURB UP TO A 10TH OF AN ACRE OF WETLANDS. AND THE AREA THAT IS SLATED IS LESS THAN A 10TH OF AN ACRE. AND SO WE CAN GET A NATIONWIDE PERMIT TO DISTURB THAT AREA FOR THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO OTHER THAN THAT, WE WON'T BE TOUCHING THE CREEK ITSELF. THE PATH COULD BE IN THE 30 FOOT. 30 FOOT IS YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURES OR ANY HABITABLE STRUCTURES. PERFECT. YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS? NO THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO HAVE HIM GIVE HIS NAME AND ADDRESS. DID HE GIVE THAT HIS NAME? OKAY. CAN I GET YOU? YEAH. YOUR ADDRESS? YES. THANK YOU. MY ADDRESS? 3302 NORTH MAIN, SPANISH FORK, UTAH. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALSO, I HEARD ANOTHER CONCERN TONIGHT ABOUT. YOU KNOW, FAIRWAY ESTATES NOT GETTING THE SNOW REMOVAL UP THERE. I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH FAIRWAY ESTATES IN THE WINTERTIME IN BAD WINTERS. I UNDERSTAND IT DEFINITELY CAN GET BACK. AND SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN THAT THESE YOU KNOW, ADDING ALL THESE NEW THINGS IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, PUDS ARE TECHNICALLY PRIVATE STREETS, SO WOULDN'T THEY DOESN'T THE HOA PAY FOR THEIR OWN SNOW REMOVAL REMOVAL PRIVATELY? I'M JUST I JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE IT WAS CORRECT. THE HOA WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THEIR PRIVATE STREETS. THIS PUD HAS PUBLIC STREETS. THE 70 FOOT COLLECTOR STREETS THAT GO THROUGH IT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC IN THE CENTER. OKAY. THE OTHER STREETS WOULD BE PRIVATE STREETS MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. OKAY, SO A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, CORRECT. OKAY. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THAT'S PROBABLY GOING OUT. AND THEN THE REST OF THEM WILL BE MAINTAINED PRIVATELY. OKAY. I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. OKAY. WELL, I WANT TO I HAVE SOME GENUINE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PIPE ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN WRITING OR ON PAPER AND. I JUST YEAH, ACTUALLY, LET'S GET MORE INFO. [01:50:04] YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THE DITCH ITSELF IS ON THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. AND SO WE PROVIDED FOR 20 FOOT EASEMENT ON OUR SITE. AND GENERALLY THE EASEMENT IS SPLIT BASED ON THE PROPERTY LINE OR THE OR THE DITCH ITSELF. SO AND GENERALLY I DON'T SEE 40 FOOT EASEMENTS, BUT BUT WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR THAT 20 FOOT ON OUR SIDE. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ACCOMPANYING 20 FOOT ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO THE 20 FOOT IS ACCOUNTED FOR FOR A TOTAL OF 40FT. THAT WOULD BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY. NOW WE'RE PIPING. THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF THE IRRIGATION COMPANY WILL BE PIPED ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE NORTH SIDE, AND THEN IT'LL GO BACK INTO THE DITCH OFF THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST. OKAY. I'LL JUST BRING UP SOMETHING FOR OUR DISCUSSION. WE DO HAVE A LEGAL LETTER FROM AN ATTORNEY, RIGHT? THAT IS AN ATTORNEY STATING THEIR CLAIM. THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY ARE CORRECT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. RIGHT. SO I WOULD BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT OUR FINAL MOTION LOOKS LIKE AND SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO SATISFY THAT LETTER, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S CORRECT BY THE LAW. I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP FOR THE GROUP. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH OBVIOUSLY THE DEVELOPER HAS FULL INTENTION ON, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YEAH, A RESOLUTION ADDRESSING THIS EASEMENT AND THIS PIPE ALONG WITH IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY ALSO HAVE MAKING TAKING CARE OF THE SEDIMENT ISSUE IN THE PIPE. I DID NOT KNOW THAT I DO LOVE HAVING FARMERS IN HERE. I LEARNED SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY. AND SO. AND WE MAY NEED LEGAL HELP ADDRESSING ON HOW WE COULD WORD THE RESOLUTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY DO THESE EVERY SO OFTEN, BUT YEAH, THAT'S JUST REALLY MY MAIN CONCERN. AND THEN ALSO ALSO THE, THE FENCE, THE YEAH, THE FENCE, YOU KNOW, I HEARD, YOU KNOW, UNDUE, HARD, UNDUE HARDSHIP WHEN IT COMES TO MOVING THAT FENCE. AND THAT IS AN ACTUAL VALID CONCERN. IF IT IS, YOU KNOW, AFFECTING THE NEIGHBOR THERE. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO GO ABOUT ADDRESSING THAT. BUT I DO WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOUR GUYS'S THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT. IF ANY, PLEASE. OH, YEAH. I THINK WE CAN VOLUNTEER THE FENCE JUST RIGHT NOW. JUST PUT THAT IN THERE RIGHT NOW. AS FOR THE THE DITCH, WE'VE WE'VE TALKED A LOT WITH MIKE MARSHALL. AND I THINK THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU ARE SEEING WAS NEVER, EVER SUBMITTED TO US. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. SO I THINK THE FIRST TIME WE SAW IT WAS WHEN BRIAN, I BELIEVE, SHOT IT OVER TO US. BUT THE LIKE, THE MARSHALLS NEVER SENT THAT TO US OR ATTORNEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY'RE CLAIMING THE PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT, WHICH IN OUR SURVEYS AND OUR TITLE WORK DOES NOT EXIST. BUT WE WE STILL, OF COURSE, WERE GOING TO PROVIDE WATER ACCESS TO FOR THEM TO IRRIGATE FARMS IF THEY'RE GOING. SO. BUT IF IF IT'S OKAY WITH PLANNING COMMISSION, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE HANDLED. THAT FINAL PLAT APPROVAL. WE'RE STILL ONLY AT PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL AT THIS POINT. YEAH. AS YOU'RE ADDRESSING YOUR PLAT APPROVAL, ONE OF THE THINGS I'M NOT GREAT AT MATH, BUT I AM GOOD AT AT GIS AND MAPPING SYSTEMS. SO I JUST THERE'S A SLIGHT DISCREPANCY IN THE ACREAGE CALLED OUT IN THE TITLE. AND THEN WHAT'S REPRESENTED IN THE ACREAGE OF LAND. AND MAYBE THAT'S BEEN UPDATED. MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CAPTURED IN THIS WHITE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE PURCHASING IS A, IS THAT AN ADDITIONAL ACRE? SO THAT'S I'M STILL OFF BY LIKE 0.75. YES. THAT'S I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MIC BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP A RECORD. OKAY. YES, I'LL SPEAK INTO THE MIC. WE HAVE THE ANNEXATION. IT'S ACTUALLY INTO THE CITY AND WE'LL BE IN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST NEXT MONTH ON THE SEVENTH. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT THERE. THAT ACREAGE, IT'S I COULDN'T QUOTE THE EXACT LIKE POINT NUMBER, [01:55:07] BUT ONE ACRE IS FOR THE ACTUAL HOMES RESIDENTIAL. AND THEN THAT LIKE .4.7, WHATEVER THAT IS, IS FOR THE ROAD THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PUMPING THROUGH. SO THE WHITES HAVE ACCESS TO NATURE. I FIGURED THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT, THAT THERE IS A DISCREPANCY. THANKS. OKAY. I THINK EVEN WITH A RESOLUTION, THEY THEY STILL HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IN THE FINAL PLAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE. THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL OPINION. IF NO ONE ELSE AGREES, I MEAN, YOU ANYONE CAN BRING CHAIR, CAN WE THOUGH IF IF IT'S A PRIVATE MATTER BETWEEN LANDOWNERS, IT. CAN IT BE PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL? I MEAN, THE CITY HAS MENTIONED THAT THAT IS WITHIN OUR PURVIEW. OKAY. A RESOLUTION OF THIS NATURE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT IS A PUD WHERE WE ARE REALLY LOOKING AT ACTUAL LAYOUTS AND STUFF. SO THANK YOU, BUT NO THANK YOU, I AGREE, BUT CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION ABOUT THAT? YEAH. SO THE SETBACK THE ENGINEER MENTIONED IS THAT THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY THE EXISTING LAW AND THEN THE LEGAL MATTER IS ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL. EASEMENT OR SETBACK. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WAS CURRENTLY PLATTED. YOU SAID THERE'S A 20 FOOT SETBACK THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE CURRENT PLAQUE. YES. THERE'S A 20 FOOT SETBACK ALONG THE NORTH SIDE. IT IT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ACCESS FOR POWER, A TRAIL AND THE PIPE. OKAY. AND IT'S A SETBACK FOR THE HOMES AS WELL. 20FT AND AND THAT YOU CAN INSTALL THE PIPING WITHIN THAT WITHIN THAT AREA. THEN THAT EASEMENT THAT HOLDS MULTIPLE UTILITIES. THAT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE EASEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IT'D BE A SHARED EASEMENT WITH WITH OTHER USES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY THAT SO THAT 20 FOOT THAT HE'S SPEAKING OF WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENT FROM THE CITY STANDARDS FOR DEVELOPMENT, THE 40 FOOT EASEMENT THAT IS BEING SPOKE ABOUT IN THE LETTER IS WHAT THAT PROPERTY OWNER BELIEVES. THEY HAVE A PRESCRIPTIVE RIGHT TO FROM THEIR FROM THEIR SOUTH PROPERTY LINE ONTO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY. AND WE DON'T HAVE VERIFICATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THAT 40 FOOT EASEMENT IS CORRECT OR NOT CORRECT. ALL WE HAVE IS THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THEM, AND THEY'RE DETERMINED. OKAY, I THINK CAN I JUST FOLLOW UP? YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY A FOLLOW UP. SO THANK YOU. THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND IT. SO I THINK I WOULD AGREE. SO IF IT WENT FROM. I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IF WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT RESOLVED, THEN THERE IS A POSSIBILITY WITH THAT RESOLUTION IT COULD. CHANGE TO 40. I MEAN, IF YOU WANTED TO. BUT LIKE COMMISSIONER MEEHAN WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE THAT IS EITHER IN THE LETTER, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE CONFIRMED OR WHATEVER, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE 20FT ALSO CAN DO WHAT WE NEED IT TO DO. AND THE 20FT IS ON THE WHAT WE DO KNOW. SO THANK YOU. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I ASK AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE WATER PRESSURE CONCERNS AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENTS. AND BEING NEW TO THE COMMISSION. I COULD JUST WANTED TO KNOW, LIKE WITH A CONCERN LIKE THAT, I'M. I'M ASSUMING THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY THAT'S REQUIRED PRESSURE AND THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED FOR THESE KIND OF DEVELOPMENTS. BUT IS THERE ANYTHING I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A CONCERN AS FAR AS UPDATING INFRASTRUCTURE. WERE THERE ANY CONCERNS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN A REVIEW AT THIS LEVEL? SO AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS AWARE OF PRESSURE CONCERNS IN THIS AREA AND ARE WORKING TO RESOLVE THOSE. SOME OF THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE TO. TO. LOOPING THE WATER SYSTEM, ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE DOWN 33RD NORTH TO HELP INCREASE THAT PRESSURE. SO AND THAT WILL OCCUR AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. AND AS THOSE WATER LINES GET EXTENDED. OKAY. SO BUT OBVIOUSLY THE WATER DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'VE [02:00:06] NOT MADE ANY COMMENT HERE THAT THEY THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN'T BE SERVED OR THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD DROP THE WATER PRESSURES BELOW. WHAT IS THE REQUIRED MINIMUMS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO BUT IT DOES SOUND LIKE JUST TO CONFIRM THAT, YOU KNOW, AS STUFF STARTS GOING ON DOWN 33RD NORTH, IT ACTUALLY MOVES THE WATER SYSTEM, WHICH DOES HELP WITH PRESSURE. IT JUST ISN'T THAT RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M STILL LEARNING. SO I THINK I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC. AND I THINK THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND PRESSURES ON THE ROADS ARE VALID. AND I WORRY ABOUT SAFETY. SO KNOWING THAT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR ME, UNDERSTANDING IMPACT FEES AND HOW THOSE ROADS WILL BE EXPANDED. BUT IF YOU COULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND AT THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT, IS THERE A TURNING LANE? WHAT SAFETY FEATURES OR WHAT TRAFFIC STUDY THAT IMPACTS THE CURRENT PRELIMINARY PLAT? WE'RE CONSIDERED AND OR THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GIVE SOME INPUT ON. SO THE THE EXTERIOR ROADS 33RD NORTH AND FIFTH WEST ARE BOTH ARTERIAL ROADS. AND IT'S BEEN STATED MANY TIMES THE ARTERIAL ROADS, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL PAY IMPACT FEES INTO THAT TRANSPORTATION FUND. THAT TRANSPORTATION FUND THEN GOES TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE ARTERIAL ROADS. THE DEVELOPMENT HERE, BECAUSE THEY ARE ON TWO ARTERIALS, THEY STILL ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE WIDENING IS NECESSARY TO SERVICE THEIR DEVELOPMENT. IN THIS CASE, THOSE COULD BE DECEL LANES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE FUNCTIONED TO ALLOW THE ARTERIAL TO FLOW INTO THE COLLECTOR ROAD. WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS OF WAY. THEY ARE ALSO DEDICATING RIGHT OF WAY ALONG BOTH THOSE ARTERIALS, SO THAT THE CITY CAN THEN HAVE THE ADEQUATE RIGHT OF WAY TO COME IN AND DO THE NECESSARY WIDENING AS IT'S WARRANTED THROUGH THEIR THANKS. MAYBE I DO WANT TO FOLLOW UP. THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING, BECAUSE IT WAS NOTED THAT THERE OR WHAT I INTERPRETED THERE WAS LIKE AN ADDITIONAL EASEMENT OR ADDITIONAL GIVE TO THE CITY TO ALLOW THAT WIDENING. I GUESS I'M WONDERING, WAS THAT REQUIRED? IS THAT JUST A RIGHT OF WAY SETBACK THAT WAS REQUIRED OR WAS THAT SOMETHING? NO. AS THEY GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE CITY FOR THOSE ROADS. OKAY. SO THAT ROADWAY THAT'S REQUIRED, I JUST WANTED TO DECIPHER THAT WASN'T THAT IS STANDARD PRACTICE TO REQUIRE THE THE WIDENING AND THE RIGHT OF WAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL, I CAN'T MAKE ANY MOTIONS. SO WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION? I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH EVERYTHING I CAN. I WILL NOW MOVE. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR HOMES AT WILLOW CREEK ROAD, WILLOW CREEK COVE TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND THAT? SECONDED. OKAY, WE WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER HARGER. I. ABSTAIN. THANK YOU. MAN, I EITHER I SCALES I SCOTT I PANZER I I MOTION PASSED PERFECT. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THE THISTLE THING SINCE THAT IS SEPARATE. BUT WHILE WE'RE IN BETWEEN THE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY CALL ARE CODE ENFORCEMENT WITH THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE TRIED THEM YET AND MAYBE SOME OF OUR STAFF MIGHT HELP YOU. I WOULD ALSO PROPOSE THAT WE GO TO A RECESS, BUT WE WOULD NEED A MOTION FOR THAT. SO DURING THE RECESS, MAYBE ONE OF THE STAFF HERE COULD COULD HELP YOU WANT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR THAT. SO. PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GET THROUGH. NO, I KNOW, BUT IT'S ALSO BEEN FOREVER. SO I MEAN, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. HONESTLY, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT IF ANYONE WANTED TO. BUT IF YOU THINK WE NEED TO KEEP GOING, THEN THAT'S FAIR TO POWER THROUGH. OKAY. I LOVE THE THE SPIRIT, BUT I'M SURE ONE OF THE STAFF CAN HELP. YES. AND COMMISSIONERS, AS MUCH AS THE HEARING IS NOW CONCLUDED, I WOULD NOTE YOU'VE SEEN A RARE THING WHEN AN ATTORNEY HAS TO KEEP HIS I WAS THINKING THE WHOLE TIME, LIKE, I'M SURE HE'S. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WAS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. BUT THE THING THAT I WOULD NOTE IS BOTH A POKE AND A PAT. AT THE LEGISLATURE REGARDING THE IMPACT FEES. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I SERVED AS CITY ATTORNEY FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND I CAN'T [02:05:06] TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE AREN'T GOING TO HAVE A RECESS. SO IF I COULD HAVE EVERYONE TAKE THE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. FOLKS, I DON'T ENVY YOU YOUR JOB. SO DID THEY. WAIT JUST A SECOND. SORRY. YES. NO RECESS. YES. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER, SCORE AS AS YOU WERE. AS I STARTED TO SAY. I SERVED FOR OVER 30 YEARS AS CITY ATTORNEY. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I APPEARED PERSONALLY IN FRONT OF THE STATE LEGISLATURE LOBBYING FOR. CARRIE. CAN WE CLOSE THAT BACK? SORRY. THANK YOU. I REALLY WANT TO HEAR. I REALLY WANT TO HEAR YOUR. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I APPEARED PERSONALLY IN FRONT OF THE LEGISLATURE, LOBBYING TO GRANT CITY'S AUTHORITY TO ADOPT IMPACT FEES. I DID THAT FOR PROBABLY WELL OVER 20 YEARS. 25 YEARS. THE LEGISLATURE, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, JUST SIMPLY DECLINED. AND THAT'S THE VOTE THAT I WOULD MAKE THE LEGISLATURE. THE PAT, HOWEVER, IS CAN YOU TAKE DISCUSSION OUT IN THE HALLWAY? IT'S HARD TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE COMMISSION. ANY ANY EXTRA DISCUSSION? YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO IT OUT IN THE HALLWAY. SORRY. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. THE PATH THAT I WOULD MAKE IS THE LEGISLATURE HAS NOW CORRECTED THAT. THEY HAVE GRANTED THE AUTHORITY OF CITIES TO ADOPT IMPACT FEES. AND AS AN ATTORNEY, AS I LOOK AT THAT LEGISLATION, IT IS VERY, VERY WELL DONE. JUST EXTREMELY WELL. AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO USE AND TO ENCOURAGE AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON HOW WHAT THAT DOES, BECAUSE IT GIVES THE CITY THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THE VERY ISSUES THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT INADEQUATE ROADS, INADEQUATE STRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY FOR WELL OVER, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS. WE NOW HAVE THAT. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU CAN TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT TOOL. IT'S VERY, VERY VALID TOOL TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH NOT HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SERVE AND PROVIDE FOR THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT THAT IS OCCURRING. WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL NOW, IN OTHER WORDS. BUT THE TOOL IS THERE, AND I REALLY ENCOURAGE EVERYONE ON THIS COMMISSION AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO TO TOUT THE VALIDITY AND VALUE OF THE IMPACT FEES. YEAH, IT'S A CITY. WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE NOW TO DO SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. EXACTLY. THAT'S THAT'S THE PROBLEM. MECHANISM OR FUNDING TO DO IT. YEAH. THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE DEALING WITH A BACKLOG. AND THAT'S A DIFFICULT ONE TO DO. AND I THINK WE'LL BE STRUGGLING WITH THAT FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. BUT WE OFTEN HEAR MANY DEVELOPERS COMPLAINING ABOUT IMPACT FEES. AND I LISTENED TO THAT AND I SAY, WHY DON'T YOU GO OUT AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW BECAUSE OF THAT BACKLOG? YEAH, SO THAT'S MY $0.02 SINCE I'VE NOW HAD MY MOUTH OPEN. WELL, I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. NO, BUT THAT'S VERY VALUABLE FOR SURE. IMPACT FEES ARE VERY VALUABLE. AND IF ONLY THE CITY WAS ABLE TO START, YOU KNOW, ONLY WE HAVE THOSE 20 YEARS AGO WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN A BETTER SITUATION NOW. SO WITH THAT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT [4.II. PUD26-002: Planned Unit Development for Sage lakes Townhomes for approximately 3.476 acres in the SE ¼ of the SE ¼ of the SE ¼ of the SW¼ of Section 30, and 11.237 acres in the SW¼ of the SE¼ of Section 30, Township 3 North, Range 38 East. Located north of E 65th North, east of Glen Abby Lane, south of Commons Road, and west of the Idaho Canal.] PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR SAGE LAKES TOWNHOMES. DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TYLER PRIDEMORE. MY ADDRESS IS 2683 NORTH GERANIUM DRIVE, SARATOGA SPRINGS, UTAH. THE PROJECT. SO THIS IS PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS SAGE LAKE TOWNHOMES. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH THE OTHER SAGE LAKES PROJECTS THAT WE WERE UNAWARE OF. SO WE'RE GOING BY HARVEST VILLAGE NOW. IT IS [02:10:02] IN THE R-2 ZONE, MIXED RESIDENTIAL. TECHNICALLY, YOU ARE PERMITTED UP TO 17 UNITS PER ACRE. WE ARE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY 12 UNITS. THIS IS GOING TO BE SOUTHEAST OF THE RIVER HOLLOW DEVELOPMENT AND THE KIND OF THAT REMAINDER AREA WEST OF THE CANAL. THIS PROJECT IS 14.5 ACRES. LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THIS IS ABOUT 12 UNITS PER ACRE. HERE'S THE AREA OF THE SITE JUST ON THE PROXIMITY OF THE CANAL AND TO THE GOLF COURSE. WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY RIVER HOLLOW ALONG THE CANAL. AND SO THERE'S AN EXISTING DITCH ON THAT SIDE THAT WILL BE REMOVED, BUT THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE CANAL WILL BE REMAIN UNDISTURBED. WE, THE UNIT TYPE WE ARE PROPOSING IS LIKE A A TOWNHOME PRODUCT. IT'S HIGHLY LOAD. WE'RE PROPOSING FOR A FOUR TO A SEVEN PLEX. THEY AVERAGE ABOUT 1500FT■!S, TWO STORY WITH A GARAGE. SO THERE IS THAT PARKING SPACE BUILT IN. AND THEN WE DO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE SPACES AROUND THE PROPERTY. THE. WAY THIS WE WERE PLANNING TO. TO BUY THIS PROJECT UP INTO DIVISIONS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THE WESTERN PORTION OVER HERE INITIALLY. AND THEN FULL, FULL, FULL BUILD OUT WILL INCLUDE THIS NEW COLLECTOR ROAD GOING NORTH. I BELIEVE THAT'S PAX AVENUE TO THE RIVER HALL DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE'LL BE MAKING THAT CONNECTION WEST TO THIS NEW PUBLIC ROAD OVER HERE, CONNECTING THOSE TWO. AS FAR AS AMENITIES, WE'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE A TOT LOT OF PLAYGROUND, PICKLEBALL COURT AND A DOG AGILITY COURSE. THE INTENT IS TO BE, YOU KNOW, AS FAMILY FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. THIS IS GOING TO BE A MORE COST EFFECTIVE OPTION. A STARTER HOME FOR NEW FAMILIES. AND WE WANT TO REPRESENT THAT IN THE ADMITTED PIECE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. SO THE WE PAID NO ATTENTION TO THOSE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. AND ALSO THE INTERCONNECTIVITY, JUST TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DO HAVE THAT THAT SPACE THAT'S BEEN STRESSED THROUGHOUT THIS MEETING IS, YOU KNOW, STRETCH YOUR LEGS AND GET AROUND THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE IT BE A HOPEFULLY LIKE A PLACE YOU WANT TO HANG OUT. SO YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF THE QUICK GIST OF IT. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THIS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW HEAR. SORRY, I JUST DID WANT TO PUT ON RECORD ALSO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. SO WE DID HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. THERE WEREN'T ANY ATTENDANCE BUT THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH. THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT FARMING AND HIS IRRIGATION. SO THAT DIDN'T MAKE ITS WAY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. BUT WE ARE COMMITTING TO PROVIDE THAT HERE IRRIGATION CONNECTION. WE'RE PLANNING TO CONNECT TO THE RIVER HALL DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT ALSO TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. SO PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW HEAR FROM CITY STAFF. YOUR FIRST ONE. I KNOW THE FIRST THING I SAID, I'M A NEW PLANNER. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ONE FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING, WHICH IS A FUNNY CHOICE OF PROFESSION. SO I'M MIKE THROWER, PLANNING DEPARTMENT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT FORMERLY SAGE LAKES AND CURRENTLY HARVEST VILLAGE. SO IT FITS INTO OUR GENERAL, GENERAL, URBAN PORTION OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS A SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY THAN YOUR SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENTS. SO THE R TWO IS PERFECT ZONING FOR THIS AREA. THIS PROPERTY WAS THERE'S TWO PIECES THAT ARE BEING COMBINED HERE. THEY WERE BOTH ANNEXED IN OR APOLOGIZED. THE EASTERN PORTION ANNEXED IN IN 2021. THE WESTERN PORTION ANNEXED IN THE NEXT YEAR. AND THEY WERE BOTH INITIALLY ZONED AS R-2. THE DEVELOPER HAS BEEN FANTASTIC TO WORK WITH. SO WHEN WE. WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR ONE VARIANCE AND YOU'LL. IF YOU'RE [02:15:06] READING IT, YOU'LL SEE IT SAYS 71 TREES. THAT'S BECAUSE I CAN'T DO MATH AND DIDN'T READ THE CODE CORRECTLY BECAUSE IT'S MY FIRST PUD. IT'S PRETTY EXCITING. THE CURRENT. THE ONLY TREES ARE MISSING IS FOUR. HUGE DIFFERENCE. MY APOLOGIES. SO THEY'RE NOT MISSING 71. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THEM TO PROVIDE FOUR EXTRA TREES AND NOT 71. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION TO NOTE. I MISCALCULATION ON MY PART AND I DIDN'T CHANGE IT IN MY PACKET OF COURSE. LET'S SEE. MAKE SURE I HIT ON EVERYTHING. THESE ARE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS FROM 4 TO 7 PLEXES. THEY ARE LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE PROVIDING FOR AMENITIES. THE. THE TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS HERE, THE DOG AGILITY COURSES WITHIN THIS STORM POND. AND THEN THE TOT LOT PLAYGROUND IS GOING TO BE RIGHT OVER HERE TO THE WEST. WE'VE GOT TWO PUBLIC ROADS, ONE THAT CUL DE SAC AND ONE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THAT LARGE DEVELOPMENT NORTH. SO THEY'RE PROVIDING OR PROPOSING 12 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS BELOW THE 17 MAXIMUM THEY ARE PROVIDING. I BELIEVE IT'S 2.1 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME EXTRA SOME PARKING, SOME SMALLER GUEST PARKING AROUND THE ROADS. SO IT COMES OUT TO JUST OVER TWO UNITS OR TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. LET'S SEE. THEY SAID THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR DIVISIONS, WHICH YOU SAID THE FIRST ONE'S GOING TO BE HERE AND THEN THE ROAD WILL COME IN AT SECOND ONE. AND THEN THESE OTHER PORTIONS, WILL DEVELOP. LET'S SEE. AND AS BRIAN HAD MENTIONED, WE CHANGED OUR PUD FORM. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU CALLED IT, BUT WE WENT THROUGH AND MADE SURE THAT EITHER THEIR MEETING REQUIREMENTS OR THAT THE REQUIREMENTS AREN'T REQUIREMENTS AREN'T REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL. SO THERE'S SOME PLAINTIFF INFORMATION IN THERE TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE HITTING AND WHAT THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO MEET. LET'S SEE. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE PURPOSES OF RESIDENTIAL ZONES. WE'VE GOT DENSITIES AND EVERYTHING IN THERE. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ALL I'M TRYING TO HIT. I'M SURE THERE'S QUESTIONS. CAN I TURN THIS ON MY FIRST PRESENTATION? BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER, IS THE REASON IT'S A PUD BECAUSE OF THE TREE VARIANCE OR WHAT? WHAT WHY DID THIS NEED TO BE A PUD. SO THE PUD, THEY WANTED TO PROVIDE THOSE PRIVATE STREETS, THOSE. THERE WE GO. SO THE PRIVATE STREETS ARE THE MAIN REASON FOR PD SO THEY CAN GET THOSE MORE UNITS IN THERE. AND THE TREES OBVIOUSLY ARE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ASK FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. NO COMMENT. SINCE THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME, WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE HOT SEAT. I'LL LEARN MORE WORKS FOR ME. THIS PUD, LIKE MOST PUDS, PROVIDES FOR PRIVATE ROADS. YES, SIR. AND IN THOSE PRIVATE ROADS TYPICALLY ARE WATER AND SEWER LINES. AND AS YOU HEARD IN THE PREVIOUS HEARING, ALSO THE PUD OR THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION IS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE SNOW REMOVAL. WOULD YOU EXPLAIN TO THE COMMISSION? THE MECHANISM, IF ANY, THAT THE CITY HAS FOR ENSURING THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LIVES UP TO ITS RESPONSIBILITIES OF MAINTAINING THOSE ROADS, MAINTAINING THE WATER AND SEWER LINES, AND ALSO IN PARTICULAR, IS THERE ANY MECHANISM IN CITY CODE FOR ENSURING THAT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ESTABLISH RESERVES FOR THAT MAINTENANCE? NOW, I KNOW I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE STREET, AND SO WE'LL DEFER TO MY MY BOSS. YES, I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT CONCERN, AND I'VE WATCHED IT OVER THE YEARS THAT TYPICALLY HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, THEY DON'T FUNCTION WELL. THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT FUNCTION WELL. THEY TYPICALLY DO NOT ESTABLISH RESERVES. AND WHAT HAPPENS OVER TIME IN A PUD IS THAT OVER TIME, BECAUSE THE HOMEOWNERS [02:20:04] ASSOCIATION ARE NOT SETTING ASIDE RESERVES, THEY END UP NOT MAINTAINING THOSE PUBLIC UTILITIES. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT. AND MAYBE THAT'S AN AREA THAT THE CITY GOT TO EXPLORE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN MONITOR OR REGULATE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS IN A PUD. SO DO YOU YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT ONE OR I'LL LET YOU SHOW US HOW SMART YOU ARE. WELL, AS STUDIED ON THAT TOPIC ON HOAS. SO I WOULD DEFER TO CARRY ON THAT. YEAH. LET ME ADDRESS THE UTILITIES FIRST. SO THE UTILITY LINES THAT YOU SEE HERE, THE GREEN AND THE BLUE FOR THE WATER AND SEWER, THE UTILITY MAINS THAT RUN THROUGH THE PROPERTY AND THOSE THAT WILL RUN THROUGH PRIVATE STREETS WILL CONTINUE TO BE CITY MAINTAINED MAINS. AND SO WE WILL ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE EASEMENT OVER THOSE UTILITIES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THAT MAINTENANCE. SO REALLY, ALL OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MAINTENANCE WOULD BE IF YOUR SERVICE LINES, LIKE ANY OTHER HOME, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN. WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRIVATE STREET SECTIONS, THE CITY OBVIOUSLY WILL MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC ROADS. THOSE PRIVATE STREETS REALLY ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOA. THERE ISN'T A MECHANISM WITHIN THE CITY ZONING CODE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO MAINTAIN RESERVES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY COULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO WHETHER THAT'S POSSIBLE OR FEASIBLE TO DO THOSE THINGS. CURRENTLY, THE PUD JUST REQUIRES THAT THE PUD BE UNDER THE COMMON SPACE, BE UNDER COMMON OWNERSHIP, AND THERE BE SOME MECHANISM FOR ITS MAINTENANCE. SO THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, IN MY EXPERIENCE, YOUR LARGER PUDS, JUST BY NUMBER, ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL AT THAT MAINTENANCE RIGHT THAN THE SMALLER ONES, BECAUSE IT'S A LARGER CHALLENGE FOR THEM TO KEEP THE RESERVES OR TO CHARGE ENOUGH FEES IN ORDER TO, TO MAKE THAT FUNCTION WORK SO THAT IF YOU DIDN'T ALREADY REALIZE WAS A LEADING QUESTION, BECAUSE I KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT. BUT THAT IS A PROBLEM IN MY OPINION. AND I, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ISSUE, PARTICULARLY IN THOSE SMALLER PUDS. THEY THEY TYPICALLY DO NOT DO A GOOD JOB OF SNOW REMOVAL. THEY DO NOT DO A GOOD JOB OF MAINTAINING STREETS AND ESTABLISHING THOSE RESERVES. AND I THINK THAT'S AN AREA THAT CERTAINLY, IN MY JUDGMENT, CITY COUNCIL SHOULD LOOK AT. SO YOU DID WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, BUT AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION AND A MEMBER OF AN HOA, OUR COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ARE ACTUALLY REGISTERED AS AN INSTRUMENT TO OUR PROPERTY. SO THAT DOES HAVE SOME RESERVE LIMITATIONS AND IDENTIFICATION OF THAT. SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS YOU'RE DRAFTING CONSIDERATIONS FOR YOUR HOA AND YOUR RECORD WITH YOUR PLAT. AND THAT'S ONCE AGAIN NOT TO DWELL ON THE SUBJECT, BUT MOST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS HAVE THAT VERY THING. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T ENFORCE IT. THEY DON'T. ADDRESS IT AND TAKE CARE OF IT. AND UNLESS THEY ARE PUSHED OR PRODDED, WHICH TYPICALLY MOST HOMEOWNERS DO NOT LIKE TO PROD THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, IT GOES BY THE WAYSIDE. AND I REALLY THINK THAT'S AN AREA THAT PERHAPS SOME DAY, AS A COMMISSION, WE CAN LOOK AT AS EXPLORE A WAY OF, OF FILLING THAT NEGLIGENCE, IF I CAN CALL IT THAT, WITH NOT ESTABLISHING THOSE RESERVES. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF I HAVE. OKAY. AGAIN, IN MY EFFORT TO LEARN MORE, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUFFERING. AND I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPING BUFFERING. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE TREES, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S LIKE WHEN THE LANDSCAPING BUFFERING IT, IT MENTIONS THAT SOME TYPE OF BUFFER BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. YES. BUT I WAS JUST ASKING ABOUT BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IN WHICH PROPERTY THAT IS YET TO BE DEVELOPED AT THIS DENSITY IS, IS, IS THAT LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING? IS THERE ANY MECHANISM TO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S EVALUATED? IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EVALUATED DURING THE PROCESS, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT'S BORDERING AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT WE LOOK AT. AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S MAYBE I GO TO THE AREA THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. SO I BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE, I BELIEVE, A COMMERCIAL. NO. OKAY. FIVE STORAGE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND [02:25:12] SO THE BUFFERS THAT WE REQUIRE ARE BASED OFF OF THE BUSINESSES OR ANY PROPERTIES THAT BORDER IT CURRENTLY. AND THEN IT'S, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD A MORE ZOOMED IN, BUT THERE'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT COLORING BETWEEN REQUIRED LANDSCAPING FOR COMMON SPACE AND PLAYING REQUIRED LANDSCAPING FOR BUFFERING. AND AGAIN, THAT'S MY BAD. I'M ZOOMING IN ON THOSE. BUT THEY ARE, THEY ARE PULLED OUT AND EASIER TO SEE ON. STUPID PORTION. THANK YOU. AND THEY ARE MEETING ALL THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUFFER THAT THERE WOULD BE BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE EXISTING SINGLE RESIDENTIAL UNITS NEXT DOOR. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL WITH THAT, NOW WE WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC HEARING SECTION OF THIS MEETING. SO ALL THE SAME RULES, SOMEWHAT BRIEF, AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WE'LL GO FOR ROUND TWO. LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. MY NAME IS JB HODGKINSON. I LIVE AT 135 EAST 65TH NORTH. THAT'S INSIDE OF THAT OPEN AREA THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF IT. I DID HAVE CONCERN ABOUT MY WATER RIGHTS AND EASEMENT, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S CLARIFIED. THE OTHER IS WHEN I LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC ON THAT AREA AGAIN, AND WE'RE GOING TO ADD 350 CARS IN THAT 14 ACRES. AND SO THAT'S A SIMILAR CONCERN. AND SO I FIND IT QUITE SAD THAT OVER THE LAST DECADES, MAYBE LONGER THAN THAT, BOTH THE CITY AND THE STATE AND COUNTY HAVE CHANGED THE LAWS SUCH THAT THIS KIND OF DENSITY IS ALLOWED. IT'S I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MOTIVATION FOR THAT KIND OF DENSITY. MAYBE I'M BEING SELFISH. I WAS QUITE BLESSED IN BUYING AND LIVING THERE SINCE 1988, AND NOW I WILL BE CONSIDERING MOVING BECAUSE IT IS. SO. THE DENSITY, THE WATER RIGHTS WAS THE TWO THINGS I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IN RESPECT FOR THE SAFETY OF MY NEW NEIGHBORS. THAT WILL BE HAPPENING. I'LL QUIT SHOOTING ON MY PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAWS WILL BE. WHERE I'M ON AN ISLAND, I'LL BE STILL BE THE ONLY PIECE OF COUNTY IN THAT AREA. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAWS WILL BE THAT THE COUNTY WILL AND WON'T ALLOW. BUT WITH THE INTERACTION WITH MY ANIMALS, AND BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED THE PARKS, I'VE ENJOYED THE CHICKENS WITH ROOSTERS AND MY NEIGHBORS MAY COMPLAIN A BIT, AND SO I MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. SO I'VE NEVER HAD PROBLEMS ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT I PROBABLY WOULDN'T. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE IT. AGAIN, MY NAME IS EVELYN RAY. I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM MR. HODGKINSON HERE. LONG TIME GOOD FRIEND. I MOVE 6530 NORTH FIFTH WEST RIGHT ON THE CORNER. THIS WILL AFFECT ME ALSO. OKAY, SO NOW WE JUST APPROVED ALL OF THOSE OTHER ONES DOWN THE ROAD ON 55TH WEST. NOW WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE THIS. WE ALREADY GOT ROCKWELL BUILT IN THERE. HOW MANY ROADS ARE GOING TO COME OUT ONTO 65TH? HOW MANY IS ROCKWELL PUTTING IN? I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOMES THEY ARE HAVING. DO YOU KNOW IF JB. OKAY, SO THAT IS A LOT OF HOMES. THAT IS A LOT OF CARS. THAT IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC. NOW. I WAS TOLD THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING IN ROCKWELL. THEY HAVE PUT IN. I DON'T KNOW WHY JB DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT THEY HAD TO PUT IN SOME KIND OF A WATER SYSTEM INTO THAT IDAHO CANAL SO THAT THEY CAN WATER THEIR YARDS. IF THEY DO NOT USE THAT WATER OUT OF THAT IDAHO CANAL, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO WATER THEIR LAWNS. NOW, WHAT IS THIS ONE GOING TO DO? I [02:30:08] MEAN, THEY ALL HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT UP THERE. AND I REALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. BUT THIS IS A CONCERN. YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY OWN. WELL, IS IT GOING TO AFFECT ME? I SURE HOPE NOT. SORRY FOR MY LANGUAGE, BUT I HOPE IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME BECAUSE I SHARE WELL WITH MY TWO OTHER BROTHERS RIGHT THERE. AND AGAIN, THAT'S OUR THREE QUARTER PASTURE WHERE WE HORSE, WHERE WE PASTURE OUR HORSES. SO MY BROTHER DOES. BUT. I JUST CAN'T SEE IT HAPPENING RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE GOLF COURSE. I JUST CAN'T WITH THAT MANY AND THAT MANY CARS, IT'S WE'RE ASKING FOR TROUBLE. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. AND THE HOA, I AGREE. YEAH. FAIRWAY ESTATES HAS AN HOA. YOU KNOW I'VE TALKED TO NEIGHBORS THERE. THIS ONE'S IN IT. THIS ONE'S IS IT. THESE AREN'T HOW COME THEY DON'T KNOW. BUT NOTHING GETS DONE DOWN THERE. AND I EVEN KNOW THE PRESIDENT. AND HE SAYS, WELL, THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER END, THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO IF THEY HAVE AN HOA, AND I THINK THE GUY THAT DEVELOPED THAT, HIS NAME IS KEVIN, SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, THEY'VE TRIED TO GET HOLD OF HIM AND HE IT'S OUT OF MY HANDS, GUYS. TAKE CARE OF IT. THAT'S HOW IT IS. SO I JUST PLEASE DON'T PUT A LOT OF DENSITY OUT THERE. PLEASE. I MEAN, I RIDE MY BIKE UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD. HOW AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO. PROBABLY NOT. BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. AND I KNOW YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. BUT IN SOME WAY YOU DO BY APPROVING ALL THESE HOMES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. AGAIN. BRANT COBURN 314. ROCK CREEK CIRCLE ESTATES DEVELOPMENT. A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRAFFIC. OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, LET'S TALK. ANOTHER ASPECT OF OF THE VEHICLES. SOMEBODY MENTIONED IN ONE OF THE LAST DISCUSSIONS. ONE OF THE DIVISIONS, I THINK IT WAS WEST OF THE CHURCH OR THE SMALLER BARRACK LOOKING. APARTMENT HOUSE. THINGS ARE OVER THERE WITH THE NARROW ROADS. THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS A SIMILAR TYPE PRIVATE ROADS AS WELL AS THE LAST ONE THAT YOU GUYS JUST VOTED ON. I'VE NOTICED DRIVING THROUGH THAT ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PARK CARS OUT IN FRONT OF THAT ONE. THAT ONE HAS DRIVEWAYS. THEY ALSO HAVE SOME OFFSET PARKING AND OTHER LOCATIONS DRIVING THROUGH THAT ONE. IF ANY OF THOSE STARTED ON FIRE WITH THAT, WITH THAT HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, I DON'T THINK A FIRE TRUCK COULD MAKE IT THROUGH THOSE PRIVATE ROADS. AND POSSIBLE LADDER TRUCK DEFINITELY CAN'T GUARANTEE COULDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH IT. DEFINITELY COULD NOT. COULD NOT FIT THROUGH THAT. NARROW ROADS. I DRIVE A PICKUP TRUCK, A LARGE ONE AND I CAN'T MAKE IT. NARROW ROAD. IT'S A CAR PARKED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. FIRE TRUCK WOULD BE A PROBLEM SNOWPLOW, BUT THEN IN FRONT OF IT WOULD BE SOME THINGS, BUT FIRE TRUCK WOULD NOT. OKAY, I'LL I'LL ADDRESS THE WATER PRESSURE ISSUE AGAIN. SINCE YOU ASKED ABOUT THAT. I LIVE IN FAIRWAY ESTATES. WE DON'T HAVE WATER PRESSURE PERIOD. THE CITY LIKES THE WATER PRESSURE TO BE HIGH THAN WHAT WE HAVE. OTHER MUNICIPALITIES LIKE IT TO BE CLOSER TO 40 PSI. I HAVE A GAUGE AT MY HOME THAT THE CITY IS NOW AWARE OF, AND HAS BEEN FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY GAUGE THAT THEY HAVE AT THAT END THAT THEY CAN RELY UPON, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ONE ANYWHERE NEAR. SO I INFORMED THEM MY WATER PRESSURE IS. LATELY THIS YEAR, SINCE PEOPLE STARTED IRRIGATING AGAIN, IT'S BEEN ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO 33 PSI DURING THE DAY, IN THE EVENING, FROM ABOUT 6 P.M. ON, WE'RE DOWN TO 22 PSI. OKAY, ANYTHING BELOW 20 WATER HAS TO BE TREATED. THAT'S NOT GOOD. SO IT JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA WHERE [02:35:08] WATER PRESSURE IS AT. CURRENTLY IN OUR SUBDIVISION, I LIVE IN A TWO STORY HOME. WELL, BASEMENT, MAIN FLOOR, AND THEN SECOND STORY ABOVE THAT, SIMILAR TO WHAT SOME OF THESE OTHER HOMES ARE GOING TO BE DOING. MY SECOND FLOOR SHOWER BARELY HAS ANY WATER PRESSURE. IT'S DIFFICULT TO TAKE A SHOWER UP THERE. WE JUST FEEL THAT THEY'RE IN THE SUMMER TIME BECAUSE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH AND EVERYBODY ELSE. WE ALSO LIVE ON THE HILL UP THERE, BUT IT'S JUST A LOT OF PRESSURE. SO THOSE ARE MY THINGS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK EVERYONE OUT OF TURN IN THE ROOM. OH, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY? YEAH. MY COMMENT JB AT 135 IS MY COMMENT ABOUT THE STATE AND CITY BRINGING ORDINANCES THAT ALLOW THIS KIND OF DENSITY. I CHALLENGE YOU TO I KNOW YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT. NOW I CHALLENGE YOU TO REVERSE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GROWING SO FAST. IT'S NOT NOT GOOD. DOES ANYBODY DISAGREE WITH ME ON THAT? ALRIGHTY. WELL, I THINK WE'VE HEARD FROM ANY OR FROM EVERYONE. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT AMONGST OURSELVES, AS THE COMMISSION, DOES THE DEVELOPER HAVE OR THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? YEAH, JUST TRY TO WRITE MORE AT 26, EIGHT, EIGHT DURING THE DRIVE, NOT SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS. I DO JUST WANT TO STRESS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING WHAT OUR FIRM IS PRETTY LIMITED. WE'RE ALL ON 65 NORTH, SO THERE'S NOT A TON THAT WE CAN DO. AND AS FAR AS THE ROADS GO, WE DO HAVE A ROADWAY THAT WE ARE A PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY THAT WE'RE DEDICATING FOR THE FUTURE. ROADWAY WIDENING. FORTUNATELY, THERE'S THE BRIDGE, WHICH I THINK MIGHT BE GETTING REPLACED EVENTUALLY OVER THE IDAHO CANAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE HAVE OUR IMPROVEMENTS THAT I THAT HAVE COME UP DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN TO MEET THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS THAT. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STRESS THAT WE'RE REALLY DOING WHAT WE CAN TO ACCOMMODATE THAT TRAFFIC ALONG THAT FRONTAGE. AS FAR AS THE FIRE LANE GOES, I HAVE HAD SOME PRETTY EXTENSIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE CHIEF, AND MOST PROBABLY THE STREETS WILL BE THEY'LL HAVE THE RED PAINTED CURB, AND THERE WILL BE NO PARKING ALONG THOSE SIDES OF THE STREETS. AND SO IT'LL JUST BE IN THE DESIGNATED SPOTS AND THE GARAGES. NOT TO YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT ALWAYS COMES UP. I HAVE LIVED IN THAT TOWNHOME. THERE'S ALWAYS IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT NAVIGATING THOSE PRIVATE STREETS. BUT YOU KNOW, THE THE FIRE CONCERNS HOPEFULLY BEEN ADDRESSED WITH THE FIRE CHIEF. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING? NO. OKAY. SO ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS, OR ONE QUESTION THAT I HAD IS THE I KNOW THAT A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS LATELY, AND IT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT GETTING WATER FROM THE CANAL TO WATER LAWNS VERSUS CULINARY WATER. AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. THE ALL THE GREEN SPACE, IS THIS COMING FROM EXISTING WATER RIGHTS OR IS IT BEING BASED OFF OF JUST LIKE A JUST NORMAL CITY WATER? YOU EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THAT. YES. SO IT DOESN'T UNFORTUNATELY SHOW UP ON A PLAN IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR AT ALL WITH THE RIVER QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE A PUMP STATION THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE CANAL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET RIGHT HERE. WE ARE PROPOSING TO CONNECT IT TO THAT. SO WE'LL BE USING THAT SAME SYSTEM, THE WATER FROM THE CANAL TO, TO, TO, TO WATER THE OPEN SPACE. SO THERE WON'T BE ANY CULINARY WATER CONNECTION FOR THE, FOR THE OPEN SPACE FOR AWESOME. THANK YOU. ONE THING I DID WANT TO MENTION ABOUT PRESSURE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IS THEY ARE FAIRLY NEW TO THE AREA, [02:40:05] BUT WHAT IT IS ESSENTIALLY DOING IS IT'S ACTUALLY A BENEFIT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WATER SYSTEM BECAUSE THE CITY IS NOT BEING PRESSURED OFF OF THEIR CITY WATER TO WATER, GRASS. AND SO WHAT IT ENABLES IT TO DO IS NOW YOU'RE PULLING JUST WATER STRAIGHT OUT OF THE CANAL AND IT GETS PUT OUT THROUGH A SEPARATE SYSTEM TO EACH HOMEOWNER FOR THEIR TO IRRIGATE THEIR OWN LAWN. AND THOSE THAT WATER COMES, IS, IS WATER RIGHTS BASED. AND SO IF THE, IF THE WHOLE AREA HAS CURTAILMENTS, WELL, THEN EVERYONE ELSE IN THERE IS ALSO GETTING CURTAILED. THEIR SUFFERING JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AREA. AND SO IT'S ALL WATER RIGHTS BASED. WHEN YOU'RE THE HOMEOWNER, YOU. YOUR SPRINKLER SYSTEM WILL OPERATE AND FUNCTION NORMALLY, BUT IT JUST COMES FROM A DIFFERENT PLACE. IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE CITY. AND SO I HOPE THAT HELPED ANSWER YOUR, YOUR, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT SYSTEM WORKS. BUT IT IS A NEWER SYSTEM IN THE AREA. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT. SO I LIKE THAT IT'S ALSO THIS IS ALSO BEING USED OFF THE PRESSURIZED IRRIGATION SYSTEM. AND SO AND IT'S COMING STRAIGHT FROM THE CANAL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S WELL, WATER RIGHTS FROM A WELL OR ANYTHING. OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY. ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT I DO LIKE THAT THE GARAGES ARE ALLEYWAY LOADED, BECAUSE NOTHING'S WORSE THAN HAVING A FRONT. THE TOWNHOMES THAT ARE THE FRONT DOOR AND ALL DRIVEWAY. AND THERE'S LIKE, NO, IT'S JUST ALL CARS AND CONCRETE AND BUILDINGS THAT I MEAN, YES, THIS IS DENSE, BUT I, THIS IS THE BETTER VERSION, I THINK, WHEN IT COMES TO TOWNHOMES. SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. ASIDE FROM THAT, I DON'T HAVE MANY OTHER CONCERNS ASIDE FROM, YEAH, IT OR I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. DOES ANYONE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST SOME THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S THE SAME ZONE AS THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT YET DEVELOPED, BUT APPROVED IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST AS I'M LOOKING. AND JUST SEEING WHAT'S THERE AS I LOOK TO THE WEST, WHAT'S COMING, I LOOK TO THE SOUTH AND EAST OF 65TH NORTH. THEY'RE EAST OF SAGE LAKES. I SEE A LOT MORE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS AND RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, LARGER LOT SIZES. AND IT WAS IT WAS EXPECTING OR HOPING THAT AS THAT AREA DEVELOPED, IT WOULD LOOK MORE LIKE WHAT ELSE WE'D PUT IN THERE. THIS IS STILL R-2, BUT PRETTY DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT. AND WHERE IT'S A PUD THAT IS SEEKING APPROVAL. I MEAN, WE CAN SAY NO, AND I WOULD BE INCLINED TO SAY NO TO THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE. GIVEN WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND IT AND MAINTAINING SOME CONSISTENCY AROUND SAGE LAKES. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY TO THAT COMMISSION? MR. CHAIR, I WOULD JUST ADD, IF THE IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD, YOU DO NEED TO DEFINE HOW IT DOES NOT MEET THE PUD ORDINANCE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO DENY THE APPLICATION. YOU COULDN'T JUST DENY THE APPLICATION FOR THE SAKE OF IT NOT BEING WHAT YOU EXPECTED OR WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS. YOU WOULD NEED TO SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFY WHERE IT FALLS SHORT OF MEETING THE THE INTENT OF THE PED. OKAY, COUNCIL, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT OR JUST WAIT, LET ME LET ME HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SORT OF TIED TO THIS. ARE THERE ARE THERE MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING STALLS IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AS A PUD? CORRECT. THEY HAVE TO MEET THE SAME STANDARD OF TWO TWO PARKING STALLS PER DWELLING UNIT. WHAT YOU'RE MAYBE NOT SEEING IS THE TWO CAR GARAGES THAT ACCOMPANY EACH UNIT. SO IT IS TWO CAR GARAGE IN EACH UNIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I WAS SEEING SCANT PARKING STALLS. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? SORRY, I FORGOT YOUR NAME. NO. THAT'S OKAY, I JUST I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR INPUT ON THAT. AND I JUST I BELIEVE IN THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT RIVER HOLLOW THERE. I DON'T THINK IT SHOWS UP ON ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT IN RIVER HOLLOW. IT'S JUST AN INTERIOR LOT. MAYBE I BELIEVE IT'S RIGHT ACTUALLY, WHERE IT'S NOT SHOWING ANYTHING. SO I [02:45:07] APPRECIATE IT. I JUST I WANTED TO STRESS OUT THERE, I THINK THERE'S MAYBE A PRECEDENCE FOR, FOR TOWNHOMES AND PRODUCT IN THIS LOCATION OR NEARBY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE? I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE BEFORE I SUGGEST ANYONE MAKE A MOTION. I MEAN, ANYONE CAN MAKE A MOTION AT ANY POINT AS WELL. SO. OKAY. ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? OKAY. I MOVE THAT THE I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR HARVEST VILLAGE TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. PERFECT. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND THAT? I'LL SECOND THAT. THANK YOU. WE WILL HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE. COMMISSIONER HAGER, I STORE I MEAN I ILER I SCALES I SCOTT I PANTHER OGDEN SORRY I'M LOOKING STILL. I GUESS I MOTION PASSED OKAY AWESOME. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO NOW WE HAVE A SERIES OF ORDINANCES ORDINANCE CHANGES. ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION, THERE'S ONE ANNEXATION BEFORE WE ENTER THE ORDINANCES. I'M GETTING AHEAD. I'M SO SORRY. IT'S A LONG AGENDA. SORRY. I WILL STILL SAY THIS, THOUGH. WE ARE GOING TO WAIT. WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING OVER SOME ORDINANCES TO THE GENTLEMAN LEAVING. I WANT TO I WANT TO ANSWER ONE OF YOUR THINGS REAL QUICK. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE COMMISSION DOES WORK ON, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTING NEW ORDINANCE IDEAS TO THE CITY AND THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO BE COLLABORATIVE WITH THEM, SEEING WHAT WE SEE, HEARING FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC. AND WE DO TRY TO PUSH THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR DIFFERENT IDEAS. AND [4.III. ANX26-004: Annexation and Initial Zoning of l&M, Industrial and Manufacturing for approximately 1.35 acres in lot 4, Block 1, Kingston-Bauchman Industrial Park Division No. 1. Located north of Stanley Street, east of N Boulevard, southeast of US Hwy 20, and west of N Holmes Avenue.] SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. SO BUT THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW THE ANNEXATION OF. INITIAL ZONING OF INM INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING, WE HAVE AN APPLICANT KNOW OFFHAND. OKAY, JUST HEAR FROM CITY. SO WE ARE MEETING. WE'RE ALREADY MEETING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING OF INM. AND IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL PARK OFF OF STANLEY STREET BETWEEN STANLEY AND US 20. LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND THE. THERE WE GO. IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE IT IS. RIGHT HERE. OKAY, SO YOU GOT BOULEVARD THAT COMES DOWN HERE AND THEN CONNECTS UP TO STANLEY THERE. THIS ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT FITS IN WITH OUR. OUR, SORRY, OUR INDUSTRIAL USE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT FITS IN WITH THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY DOWN HERE. THIS IS ALL INDUSTRIAL. IT FITS IN WITH THE AREA AROUND IT. IT'S 1.36 ACRES AND IT'S USES SIMILAR TO THE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. I GUESS I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS. I'M ASSUMING THIS IS JUST LIKE A COUNTY ISLAND, BECAUSE TO BE HONEST, I THOUGHT ALL THIS WAS ALREADY CITY. SO THIS IS THESE. I BELIEVE IT'S THESE TWO PROPERTIES TO ITS NORTHEAST ARE STILL COUNTY. OKAY. BUT THE ONES. OH YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S BETTER ILLUSTRATION OF IT. SO THOSE TWO TO THE NORTHEAST ARE STILL COUNTY. AND THEN AS YOU GET FURTHER, THEY ALL BECOME COUNTY. BUT TO THE SOUTH AND WEST AND NORTH ACROSS THE HIGHWAY CITY. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY? YES. CAN WE GET THIS MAP CHANGED SO THAT THE INM OVERLAY IS NOT GRAY? BECAUSE I ALSO FIND THESE SITUATIONS VERY CHALLENGING SOMETIMES WHERE I'M LOOKING AT A MAP AND I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S OUT HERE. THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THE INDUSTRIAL AERIAL FOOTAGE IS ALREADY GRAY MOST OF THE TIME MAKING IT GRAY OR DOESN'T HELP. WE CAN LOOK AT IT. OUR ZONING COLORS THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP ARE STANDARD TO THE USES. BUT YES, WE CAN. AND YOU SEE DAVID PUTTING EXTRA HATCH IN HERE TO TRY TO HELP THAT. BUT YEAH, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT HATCH THE COUNTY. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO. [02:50:05] OKAY. YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK. OKAY. WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO. YEAH. WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLEAD YOUR CASE ON THIS INDUSTRIAL LOT? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. WELL, THEN I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SO DOES ANYONE WANT TO PUT FORWARD A MOTION? NOT HEARING ANYONE ELSE? I'LL TACKLE THAT ONE. I WOULD MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OF THE ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING OF I AND M ONE OR I AND M, I SHOULD SAY, FOR THIS PARCEL. PERFECT. ANYONE WANT TO SECOND THAT? SECONDED. PERFECT. I WILL JUST DO A VOICE VOTE. ANYONE IN APPROVAL SAY I I OKAY, PERFECT PASSES. OKAY. NOW TO OUR FIRST ORDINANCE, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, I WOULD LOVE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AT THIS POINT. OKAY. TWO MINUTES. OKAY. DOES. YEAH. I MOVE TO RECESS FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES FOR A BIO BREAK. ONE SECOND. SECONDED. OKAY. SAY I IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALRIGHTY. [4.IV. RZN26-001: Ordinance amending Table 11-3-7 Dimension Standards for Special Zones, Section 11-4-2 Design and Development Regulations and 11-7-1 Definitions related to Park and Recreation Facilities and the standards that apply at the time of development. Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to remove the requirement for park property to meet the same development standards as commercial development.] WELL, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. SO NOW WE ARE GOING TO. DO THE ORDINANCE AMENDING DIMENSION STANDARDS FOR SPECIAL ZONES. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY PRESENTATION BRIEF, BUT I CAN GO IN AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU LIKE JUST BECAUSE OF THE HOUR THIS FIRST AMENDMENT IS COMING TO YOU. IT IS A LEGISLATIVE ACTION TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT THE DIRECTION IS COMING FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, FROM THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE LOOKING HERE SPECIFICALLY AT THE STANDARDS RELATED TO PARK AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. SO THE FIRST THING THAT YOU HAVE HERE ON THIS FIRST SLIDE IS JUST AN EXPANSION OF THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A PARK AND REC FACILITY IS THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE LIST IN DETAIL. IF YOU READ THE LIST, HOPEFULLY THERE'S NOTHING THERE THAT SEEMS OUT OF THE ORDINARY. IT'S A JUST COMMON THINGS THAT WE SEE RELATED TO OUR PARK PROPERTY, WHICH IS IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT A ZONING MAP, IT'S TYPICALLY GREEN AND IT'S A PUBLIC ZONE WHERE MOST OF THOSE PARKS RESIDE. AND SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TYPICAL STANDARD THINGS THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN PARKS WITH SOME OTHER UNIQUE THINGS LIKE ZOOS, BUT THINGS YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH. THE OTHER CHANGE, I'M GOING TO START WITH THE TABLE FIRST AT THE BOTTOM. SO THE OTHER CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE SETBACKS. AND ORIGINALLY I MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS A PUBLIC ZONE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH HERE. ORIGINALLY, THE PUBLIC ZONE WAS ACTUALLY A PARK ZONE WHEN IT WAS GENERATED IN 2018. THAT PARK ZONE HAD VERY SUBSTANTIAL LARGE SETBACKS BECAUSE WE WERE DEALING WITH PARKS. SO YOU DON'T SEE AS MANY STRUCTURES. IT HAS NOW SWITCHED TO A PUBLIC ZONE AND INCLUDES THINGS THAT AREN'T PARKS IN THAT PUBLIC ZONE. SO OTHER CITY BUILDINGS OR FACILITIES. AND SO THAT THOSE LARGER SETBACKS HAVE DID SOME CONCERN OR PROBLEMATIC IN THE PAST. SO WE'RE BASICALLY REDUCING THE FRONT SETBACK FROM 30FT TO 20, THE REAR TO 25. AND THEN THEY WOULD LET THE PARKS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION FROM 35FT TO GO TO, TO NOT HAVING ANY RESTRICTION THERE. ON THE HEIGHT, JUST BECAUSE THEY DEAL WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN ARISE. AND SO THE HEIGHT OF RESTRICTION IS A CONCERN FOR THEM SETBACK WISE. THEY'RE PRETTY STANDARD WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER ZONE DISTRICTS. THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT IS LESS THAN YOU WOULD SEE. I THINK IN GENERAL CASES YOU'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE THE REAR SETBACK AS THOSE PARKS ARE PUBLIC PROPERTIES ABOVE RESIDENCES OR OTHER USES. AND THAT 25 FOOT SETBACK IS STANDARD IN MOST OF OUR ZONES. SO THE OTHER ONE NOW TO THE THE LANGUAGE, WHICH IS ONE SENTENCE. AND SO IT SEEMS FAIRLY MINOR, BUT ACTUALLY IS MAYBE BIGGER AND MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN THAN YOU WOULD THINK. THE REQUEST HAS BEEN THAT BECAUSE OUR PARK FACILITIES ARE JUST SO DIVERSE, THEY'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON. THEY ALSO SORT OF DEVELOP OVER TIME. AND, AND THEY GO FROM [02:55:05] SORT OF MAYBE JUST A FILLED TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE EXPANSIVE WITH, YOU KNOW, BALL DIAMONDS AND PARKING LOTS AND, AND FACILITIES AND ZOOS AND ICE RINKS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE HAVE A FULL GAMUT. AND SO PARKS HAS STRUGGLED WITH WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WE HAVE ONE STANDARD FOR DEVELOPMENT. AND PARKS MEET THE SAME STANDARDS AS ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD MEET. SO THE REQUEST HAS BEEN TO LOOK AT HOW WE COULD ADJUST THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSITY AND THE CHALLENGE THERE, IT'S REALLY HARD TO HAVE LIKE A A RANGE OF STANDARDS THAT THEY WOULD MEET BECAUSE IT JUST HOW DIFFERENT SOME OF THE PARK FACILITIES ARE. SO THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IS THIS ONE SENTENCE THAT JUST EXEMPTS OR ACCEPTS THE PARK AND RECREATION FACILITIES FROM MEETING THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS REQUIRED IN OUR ZONING CODE IN CHAPTER FOUR. SO THAT IS YOUR STANDING PARKING STANDARDS, YOUR YOUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, YOUR BUFFERING STANDARDS, ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS, THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM. THE THOUGHT THERE IS THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD WORK ON EACH INDIVIDUAL PARK AND COME UP WITH A PLAN. THEY WOULD DO NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH AND OTHER THINGS TO GET THE INPUT AND CONCERNS, AND THEN THEY WOULD DEVELOP THOSE STANDARDS FOR EACH PARK. AS THE PARK WAS CREATED. QUESTIONS FOR ME, THAT'S REALLY IT IN NUTSHELL. YEAH. JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO THE AREAS WHERE PARKS EXIST WITH THE OVERLAY AND YOU HAVE A ZERO HEIGHT MAX RESTRICTION. NOW WOULD THAT OVERLAY ZONE FOR THE AIRPORT STILL APPLY TO THOSE LANDS? YES, THE OVERLAY WOULD STILL APPLY. IT'S A SEPARATE CHAPTER OUTSIDE OF CHAPTER FOUR WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE. AND THOSE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS WOULD STILL BE IN PLACE. THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION. QUESTION. ANYONE ELSE? I JUST HAD ONE COMMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE DEFINITIONS ON PARK AND RECREATION FACILITY. THE LAST SENTENCE. NOTES THAT A PARK AND RECREATION FACILITY ALSO INCLUDES PRIVATE CHURCH AND NEIGHBORHOOD OWNED PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. BUT NOT INCLUDING COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITIES. I'M NOT SURE I'M EXACTLY CLEAR ON WHAT IS A COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITY. I'M WONDERING IF WE OUGHT TO EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY OF PROVIDING SOME DEFINITION TO THAT, THAT TERM. SO COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITY WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THE APPLE, SOMETHING THAT IS FOR PROFIT OR THAT SORT OF THING. THE REASON FOR THE CHURCH AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON PARK WOULD BE SOMETHING. NOW, I CAN'T THINK OF THE PARK, THE PRIVATE PARK. THEY HAVE LOTS OF PARK. SHAMROCK PARK, THANK YOU. SHAMROCK PARK IS A PRIVATE PARK. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE THOSE. IT ACTUALLY IS ZONED IN THE GREEN. BUT YEAH, WE COULD LOOK AT IT. MAYBE A SPECIFIC DEFINITION FOR COMMERCIAL RECREATION. I CONCUR WITH THE PURPOSE OF THAT SENTENCE. YEAH. WE IN THE ZONING CODE, IT WOULD REFER TO THEM AS INDOOR AMUSEMENT. AND SO MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST REFER TO THAT DEFINITION. THAT DEFINITION EXISTS. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. SO IT WOULD IF ANY COMMISSIONER STORE. SO IF YOU MADE A MOTION, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO INCLUDE THAT. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'D BE GREAT. SO YOU'RE GOING TO PUT MY ARM IN MAKING THE MOTION. ANYTHING ELSE. NO. OKAY. YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK. OKAY. SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I DO NEED TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARING. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. SEEING WE HAVE NO TAKERS AGAIN, THEN WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER. ANYTHING OR ARE WE READY TO MAKE A MOTION? I GUESS MY ARM IS DULY TWISTED. I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENTS AS SO DESIGNATED. WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY EXPLORE PROVIDING A LITTLE MORE DEFINITION OF WHAT IS A COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY IN THE DEFINITION SECTION. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SECOND THAT SECOND? PERFECT. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE FOR THAT ONE. COMMISSIONER HAGER, I STORE I MEAN, I, I, I SCALES I SCOTT I PANTHER I OGDEN MOTION PASSED PERFECT. OKAY. NOW NEXT [4.V. RZN26-002: Ordinance amending Section 11-2-6(N) Dwelling, Accessory Unit and Table 11-4-2: Off Street Parking Requirements to comply with state legislation adopted this past legislative session. Amendment to the Accessory Dwelling Unit portions of the Zoning Ordinance in order to comply with state legislation adopted this past legislative session.] [03:00:08] GOING ON TO OUR NEXT ORDINANCE AMENDING JUST SOME ORDINANCES REVOLVING AROUND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. SO THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE IS A RESULT OF THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. THERE WAS A SPECIFIC SENATE BILL, SENATE BILL 1354, DEALING SPECIFICALLY WITH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND WHAT CITIES CAN AND CAN'T DO WHEN IT COMES TO REGULATING THOSE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. THE SHORT END OF IT IS THAT THE CITY CAN'T PROVIDE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS TO ADUS THAT ARE ANY DIFFERENT THAN WE WOULD ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE OR HOME. THE OTHER IS SO, AND THOSE ARE BULLETED THERE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, LIMITING TO THE SIZE. WE CANNOT LIMIT THEM TO A SIZE THAT IS LESS THAN 1000FT■S. LET ME. EYES ARE AS GOOD TO SEE THAT FAR. SO CURRENTLY THE. THE ZONING CODE RIGHT NOW WOULD LIMIT ACCESSORY DWELLING TO 750FT■!S. WE CANNOT LIMIT LESS THAN 1000FT■S. SO 1000. IS THAT MAXIMUM OR 75% OF THE SIZE OF THE PRIMARY DWELLING, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. SO THAT IS LANGUAGE SPECIFIC FROM THE BILL. AND WE'RE INCORPORATING THAT IN AS WELL. THE OTHER IS THAT WE CAN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO ACCESSORY DWELLING THAT WE DON'T HAVE WITH OTHER RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES. SO THERE WAS THIS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLINGS THAT DEALT WITH HEIGHT RELATED TO IF THEY WERE WITHIN PROXIMITY TO A SIDE OR REAR, FOR THE REASON THAT WAS ORIGINALLY INCORPORATED IN THE CODE, BECAUSE IF YOU GOT A TWO STOREY STRUCTURE WITH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING ON THE SECOND FLOOR, NOW YOU HAVE LIVING SPACE THAT IS SORT OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING. ACCESSORY STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED TO BE CLOSER TO THE SIDE AND REAR SETBACK THAN A PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS. AND SO THE COUNCIL FELT THAT HAVING A GREATER SETBACK WOULD ALLOW MAINTAIN THE SAME PRIVACY OF OF REAR YARDS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. BUT BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS OUTSIDE OF THAT THAN THAT REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL SIDE SETBACKS WILL HAVE TO GO IN ORDER TO MEET THE STATUTE. THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, THEN WE CANNOT REQUIRE THAT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT PROVIDE ANY PARKING. SO OUR CODE IS FAIRLY LIGHT THERE. WE REQUIRE ONE PARKING SPACE FOR AN ADU, AND WE ALLOWED THEM TO USE THE DRIVEWAY FOR THAT PARKING. ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY WE DON'T ALLOW TANDEM PARKING, SO IF YOU HAVE A GARAGE AND PARKING BEHIND, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE WOULD COUNT. BUT WHEN IT CAME TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, WE DID. WE ALSO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT FOR ONE. SO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE ANY PARKING REQUIREMENTS, THE TABLE NEEDS TO GET MODIFIED. AND THEN THAT ALLOW OR THE REQUIREMENT FOR ONE PARKING STALL MUST GO AWAY. THE OTHER REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAD WAS A DEED RESTRICTION BE PLACED ON A PROPERTY WITH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT REQUIRED THAT EITHER THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE OR THE ACCESSORY DWELLING BE OCCUPIED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER THERE. BUT AT THE TIME WHEN THAT WAS INSTIGATED, WE WERE LOOKING AT JUST OVERALL MAINTENANCE AND BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. AND, AND WE DIDN'T WANT A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROPERTIES TURNED INTO. SITUATION WHERE BOTH WERE RENTAL AND YOU MAYBE HAD AN ABSENTEE LANDLORD. THE STATE HAS NOW PREVENTED US FROM MAKING ANY OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS WITH REGARD TO ANY TO WHO LIVES IN THE. SO THE THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THAT THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED ARE THE PRIMARY. BOTH CAN BE RENTED SEPARATELY. THEY JUST BECOME TWO RENTAL UNITS. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF WHAT THE STATE HAS ASKED US TO DO OR REQUIRED US TO DO. I SHOULD SAY ASK IS GENERALLY ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH. OKAY. CARRIE, IS THE CHANGE IN THE REQUIREMENT ON WHO LIVES THERE? IS THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS LAW, IT'S SIMILAR TO THE SHORT TERM RENTALS. THE STATE MADE THAT CHANGE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, OR SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND WE JUST CAN'T ENFORCE AN OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT ANYWHERE, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. ONE MORE QUESTION. I KNOW YOU SAID IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE IN THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, ADUS IS IF YOU HAD LIKE AN ADU, MAYBE ABOVE A GARAGE IN A SEPARATE UNIT, IT HAD TO BE FURTHER SETBACKS THAN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE REQUIRED FOR THE HOUSE. NOW THAT GOES AWAY. CORRECT. OKAY. IT'LL HAVE THE SAME SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AS ANY OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, WHETHER [03:05:04] THERE'S AN ADU IN IT OR NOT. CORRECT. OKAY. GOTCHA. I HAVE ONE MORE. BASED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT WHICHEVER IS GREATER AMONG THE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. ARE WE LOOKING AT A SITUATION? YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING OF LIKE THE NUMBERED STREETS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE MANY OF THOSE HOMES ARE SMALLER THAN 1000FT■!S, WHERE NOW THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT COULD BE LARGER THAN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE. SURE. IT WOULD THEN BECOME THE PRIMARY. OKAY. GENERALLY, I MEAN, IT WOULD DEPEND A LITTLE BIT ON THE LOT LAYOUT AND ADDRESSING AND UTILITY SERVICES, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT GENERALLY THE LARGER THE PRIMARY. SO IT'S NOT A WHATEVER COMES FIRST TYPE OF THING. IT'S IT'S WHICHEVER IS GREATER. I MEAN, SOMEONE COULD BUILD SMALLER IF THEY WANTED TO. I MEAN, THAT'S THE CHOICE. BUT WE CAN'T REGULATE IT, RIGHT? YOU COULD HAVE THE SAME SITUATION, THE ALTERNATIVE. RIGHT. SOME VERY LARGE HOME, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD A THREE BEDROOM ADU. YEAH. AND THE BACK. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL NOW I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO YOU HAVE ANY OPINIONS ON ADUS? OKAY, THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY BEFORE I ENTERTAIN ANYONE WANTS TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. OKAY. WHO WANTS TO DO IT? I'LL TAKE IT. I MOVE THAT THIS COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION 11-2-6N DWELLING ACCESSORY UNIT AND TABLE 11-4-2. OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO COMPLY WITH STATE LEGISLATION ADOPTED THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. PERFECT. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HAGER, I STORE I MEAN, I, I, I I SCOTT I PANTHER I OGDEN I MOTION PASSED PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. LAST ONE ORDINANCE [4.VI. RZN26-003: Ordinance amending Sections 11-2-6(AA) Short Term Rental and 11-7-1 Definitions to comply with state legislation adopted this past legislative session. Amendment to the Short-Term Rentals portions of the Zoning Ordinance in order to comply with state legislation adopted this past legislative session.] AMENDING THE SECTIONS ON SHORT TERM RENTALS. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS ONE'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SHORT TERM RENTALS REALLY CAME TO BE KIND OF A BIG DEAL BACK WHEN THE ECLIPSE, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ALL OF THAT CRAZINESS, WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE TRYING TO RENT PARTS OF THEIR YARD FOR TENTS, ETC. SO OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE STATE HAD LOTS IN THEIR BILL SIMILAR TO THE ADU. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THOSE SAME RESTRICTIONS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT SOME PLACES HAVE DEALT WITH. SO OUR SHORT TERM RENTAL WAS ALLOWED ANYWHERE THAT A RESIDENCE IS ALLOWED. THE ONLY REAL RESTRICTION THAT WE HAD WAS THAT IT COULD ONLY BE OCCUPIED BY ONE GUEST PARTY AT A TIME. THERE WE WERE JUST TRYING TO PREVENT FROM TURNING INTO A WHERE PEOPLE ARE RENTING OUT MULTIPLE ROOMS IN THE SAME HOME, WHICH COULD. THE RESULT OF PARKING ISSUES AND NOISE ISSUES OR OTHER CHALLENGES. WE HAVEN'T REALLY EXPERIENCED THAT. THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. WE DON'T GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS. WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF CONCERNS THERE. BUT WITH THE STATE BILL, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT THAT IT BE RENTED TO A SINGLE GUEST PARTY. SO NOT A HUGE CHANGE. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE AT THE VERY BEGINNING WITH THAT, BUT EVERYONE'S BEEN PRETTY RESPECTFUL AND DONE A GOOD JOB AND WE DON'T GET CALLS. OKAY. QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHTY. I'M GOING TO NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION? OKAY. THANK YOU. MOVED COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO SECTIONS 112-6A, A SHORT TERM RENTAL AND 11-7-1. DEFINITIONS TO COMPLY WITH STATE LEGISLATIONS ADOPTED THIS PAST LATEST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. ANYONE WANT A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU. ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER HAGER I STORE. I MEAN I ILER I SCALES I SCOTT I PANTHER I OGDEN MOTION PASSES. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL. DO WE HAVE ANY UPDATES FROM THE CITY? YEAH. REAL QUICKLY JUST NEXT MONTH WE DO HAVE A FULL AGENDA, ALTHOUGH NOT VERY MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT I THINK SIX ITEMS TOTAL. OKAY. SOME FLATS AND ANNEXATION. SO NOTHING TOO HUGE. ALSO, THERE ARE STILL SOME STATE BILLS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, MOST OF THEM FAIRLY BASIC, BUT THERE IS ONE WHICH I THINK COMMISSIONER MEEHAN WAS REFERRING TO WITH REGARD TO [03:10:04] WHAT IS A NEW STARTER HOME SUBDIVISION, BY DEFINITION, AS NEW STARTER HOME SUBDIVISION IN THE LAW IS A SUBDIVISION THAT IS FOUR ACRES OR LARGER, AND WE CANNOT RESTRICT THE LOT SIZE TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS MORE THAN 1500FT■!S, WHICH IS A LOT SIZE, PRETTY SMALL. THERE'S SOME OTHER REQUIREMENTS THERE REGARDING LOT WIDTHS. WE CAN HAVE THE LOT WIDTH BE LARGER THAN 30FT. MOST ZONES IN THE CITY ARE 50 FOOT WIDTH REQUIREMENT. IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH JUST STREET FRONTAGE, DRIVEWAYS, ETC. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE LOTS THAT WOULD BE LONGER THAN 70FT. I MEAN, THEY COULD DO IT IF THEY WANT, BUT WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO GO LONGER THAN 70FT IN LENGTH. SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'LL BE DEALING WITH. THE BILL THAT WAS PASSED GIVES US UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST OF 2027 IN ORDER TO ENACT THAT LEGISLATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE TIME, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW THAT GOES FORWARD. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND MAKE IT WORK. WE LIKE TO REALLY FIGURE THAT OUT. WE'LL BE DOING A PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO GET SOME OF THEIR INPUT AND DIRECTION. MY RECOMMENDATION TO THEM IS THAT WE FORM A STEERING COMMITTEE MADE UP OF, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS, DEVELOPERS, ENGINEERS, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YOU AS WELL, IF YOU'RE WILLING, JUST BASICALLY SOME EXPERTS IN THE FIELD TO TRY TO SOLVE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR IDAHO FALLS SO THAT WE HAVE REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S TAILORED TO US, SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO THAT IS THE BIGGEST BILL THAT WILL TAKE THE MOST AMOUNT OF TIME AND BE A BIG LIFT FOR EVERYBODY. BUT AGAIN, WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. WE DON'T HAVE TIME WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING ORDINANCES APPROVED, BUT WE DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, SO WE WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT. SO WE JUST MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT. OKAY, COOL. SOUNDS GOOD WITH THAT. THEN I WILL CLOSE THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STICKING AROUND FOR EV * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.