[Call to Order and Roll Call] [00:00:10] MEANS THAT WE ARE. WHAT'S THE WORD? LIVE IS THE WORD, I GUESS. WANT TO SAY, BUT WE'RE NOT. WELL, I GUESS WE ARE ANYWAY. CAMERAS ARE ON, MIKES ARE ON, AND WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START OUR MEETING. WELCOME TO THE IDAHO FALLS WORK SESSION. CITY COUNCIL MEETING. ON THIS MONDAY, NOVEMBER 15TH, CITY CLERK, WILL YOU CALL? I'LL CALL IT TO ORDER. AND YOU CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU. COUNCIL PRESIDENT BURTENSHAW HERE, COUNSELOR RADFORD, PRESENT. COUNSELOR. DINGMAN HERE. COUNSELOR. FREEMAN HERE, COUNSELOR. FRANCIS. THANK YOU. COUNSELOR LARSON HERE. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND SO IF YOU PICK UP ON IT, IF YOU WERE CONCENTRATING ON SOMETHING ELSE. COUNCILOR FRANCIS IS JOINING US VIA OR REMOTELY. AND HE IS HOME, NOT FEELING SUPER GOOD, TRYING TO PROTECT EVERY ONE OF US FROM GERMS. THAT'S SO THOUGHTFUL AND WE'RE THANKFUL. WE HOPE THAT YOU'RE ONLY IMAGINING THAT YOU HAVE THESE SYMPTOMS AND THAT YOU FEEL BETTER IN A FEW HOURS. COUNSELOR, WITH THAT, WE ARE [Airport] GOING TO GO TO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS SOMETHING FROM THE AIRPORT. WE HAVE OUR AIRPORT DIRECTOR, IAN TURNER, HERE, AND I'M GOING TO LET YOU GO AHEAD AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT TOPICS, A SMATTERING OF THEM. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU. THIS UPDATE IS IN LIEU OF LAST FRIDAY'S BOARD MEETING. I DO HOPE THAT YOU DON'T MIND THAT BEING CANCELED AND MOVED TO THIS. THIS ONLY INCLUDES THE REALLY IMPORTANT TOPICS, OR ONE. I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A FINAL, FINAL UPDATE ON. THE FIRST ITEM IS OUR ON AIRPORT RENTAL CAR CONCESSION LEASE. THOSE LEASES THAT WERE CURRENTLY OPERATING UNDER WERE INITIATED IN 2015. THEY EXPIRED IN 2020, AND THEY'VE BEEN RENEWED ON A YEAR TO YEAR BASIS SINCE THEN. OBVIOUSLY, AS WE ALL KNOW, AND I'VE DISCUSSED ROUTINELY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE MARKET HAS CHANGED. THE CHALLENGES WITH THE CURRENT AGREEMENT INCLUDE RENTAL RATES THAT ARE SET AT AERONAUTICAL RATES, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN HERE IN A SECOND. THERE'S A LOT OF OUTDATED TERMS WITHIN THAT AGREEMENT, INCLUDING OUTDATED TERMS THAT PLACE THE CITY IN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DISADVANTAGE, AND SPACE NEEDS ARE FAIRLY INADEQUATE. WHAT I MEAN BY RENTAL RATES ARE SET AT AERONAUTICAL RATES, OFFICE SPACE AND CAR RENTAL COUNTER SPACE ARE CHARGED TO THE RENTAL CARS AT THE SAME RATES WE'RE CHARGING FOR TERMINAL SPACE TO THE AIRLINE AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE OVER THE YEARS TO MAKE SURE OUR AIRLINES RATES AND FEES ARE LOW IS WE'VE BEEN SUBSIDIZING THOSE WITH PARKING REVENUE. THOSE ARE TWO ENTIRELY SEPARATE CUSTOMER BASES, AND IT'S NOT ENTIRELY ACCURATE OR APPROPRIATE TO BE SUBSIDIZING OUR RENTAL CAR OPERATIONS WITH A SEPARATE SUBSECTION OF OUR CUSTOMER. SO THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY RATES ARE SET AERONAUTICAL RATES. SO MOVING THROUGH THE RFP, WE HAD A NUMBER OF GOALS FOR US TO TO TRY AND ACHIEVE. NUMBER ONE, BEING A MODERNIZED AGREEMENT UTILIZING THE STAFF'S EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WE DID CRAFT AN ENTIRELY BRAND NEW RENTAL AGREEMENT FOR ON AIRPORT CAR RENTAL CONCESSIONS. WE WANTED TO UPDATE THE RATES, ALLOCATE THE SPACE, AND ADDRESS COMPETITION. IN THE TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, WE DID RECEIVE SOME INTEREST FROM SOME LOCAL ENTITIES IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE POTENTIAL OF COMING ON AIRPORT AND OPENING A SEPARATE CAR RENTAL OPERATION THAT IS A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR CUTTHROAT GAME. AND WE CRAFTED THIS IN A WAY TO TRY AND BALANCE THE LARGE MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR OPERATION OPERATORS IN A WAY THAT MIGHT OPEN UP THE. OPPORTUNITY FOR FOR SMALLER ENTITY WHILE THEY EXPRESS SOME, SOME INTEREST. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE IS TRURO, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT UNDER THE SECOND TOPIC. SO HERE'S THE TIMELINE. WE ISSUED THAT RFP IN SEPTEMBER AT A PRE-PROPOSAL MEETING, WHICH WILL BE IMPORTANT HERE IN A FEW SLIDES. IT WAS NOT MANDATORY IN MID-OCTOBER. PROPOSALS WERE DUE NOVEMBER 6TH AND THE OPEN BIDS ON NOVEMBER 7TH. SO WHAT DO WE ACHIEVE? FIRST THING IS, WE DID ACHIEVE A MODERNIZED AGREEMENT AND THEN WE RECEIVED ACHIEVED PARTIAL SUCCESS ON UPDATED RATES AS WELL AS REBALANCED BASE ON THE RATES PIECE. THE CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE HAS BEEN INCREASED TO $6 PER TRANSACTION DAY. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD EVALUATED A YEAR AGO. IN 2023, WE INITIATED THE CUSTOMER FACILITY CHARGE HERE AND IDAHO FALLS. IT WAS $2.50. LAST YEAR IT WENT TO $4, AND UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, IT WILL BECOME A $6 FEE. THAT IS WITHIN THE MIDDLE [00:05:04] THIRD OF OUR PEER AIRPORTS. TOWARDS THE TOP OF THAT THIRD IS WHERE WE TARGETED THAT $6. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK TOWARDS THAT. AND IT WAS MORE GEARED TOWARDS WHY ARE WE INCREASING IT AT ALL, NOT WHAT IS THE RATE. SO AND THEN WE ACHIEVED INCREASES IN ALL THOSE OTHER AREAS. ON THE REBALANCE PIECE. WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT HERE ON THE WHY IT'S A PARTIAL SUCCESS BECAUSE ON THE COMPETITION SIDE, ON WHAT WE DIDN'T QUITE ACHIEVE IS THAT WE RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS FROM TWO ENTITIES. HOWEVER, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE ENTITIES OPERATING FOR OPERATIONS AT THE AIRPORT. AND WHAT HAPPENED IS ONE OF THE CURRENT INCUMBENTS DID NOT RESPOND TO THE RFP. SO WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT AT THE END OF MY PIECE ON THE II. MAKING ME NERVOUS. WAS THE TIMING. HE JUST HE STOLE THE VENDOR. HE SAID HE'D GET BACK AND HE. I'LL GET TO THAT PIECE HERE IN A MINUTE. ZACH I THINK HE'S HE'S LOOKING AT ME WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A NERVOUS LOOK. MY OPINION ON THE RATES PIECE IS THAT THE COUNTER SPACE AND THE READY RETURN SPACE ARE STILL LOW. AND THEN THE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT ALL OF THE SPACE OUTSIDE OF THE TERMINAL BUILDING IS GOING TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE FOR US AS REVENUE GENERATING PARKING LOT REBALANCE. THE SPACE WAS ACHIEVED PARTIALLY BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE AN ENTIRE SET OF OFFICE COUNTER READY RETURN SPACES WHERE YOU PICK THE CAR UP AND THEN THE QTA OR QUICK TURNAROUND FACILITY WHERE WHERE VEHICLES ARE BEING SERVICED BEFORE THEY GET RERENTED. THE BOTTOM LINE ACROSS THE AIRPORT, WE JUST NEED MORE SPACE FOR ALMOST ALL OF OUR OPERATORS. AND SO THAT WAS ONE THAT WE HOPED TO ACHIEVE, BUT WAS WASN'T EXACTLY REALISTIC. AND AT THE TIME I. SO THE RESULTS ARE HERE. YOU SEE THREE SUCCESSFUL RESPONDENTS OVERLAND WEST OPERATING AS HERTZ ENTERPRISE RENT A CAR COMPANY OF UTAH OPERATING AS ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR AND ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR. COMPANY OF UTAH OPERATING AS NATIONAL CAR RENTAL AND ALAMO CAR RENTAL. A LITTLE BIT SMALL HERE, BUT THE BIDS WERE CALCULATED BASED ON THE LARGEST AVAILABLE SPACE OF EACH CATEGORY. WE TOTALED THOSE OUT, AND THEN THE NUMBER ONE BIDDER WAS ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR. NUMBER TWO WAS ALAMO NATIONAL ENTERPRISE AND THEN OVERLAND WEST. CURRENT 2025 RATES ARE $26.12 PER SQUARE FOOT PER YEAR. RATE OF RETURN SPACE WITH $730 PER SPACE PER YEAR. QUICK TURNAROUND FACILITIES AT $0.35 PER SQUARE FOOT PER YEAR, AND THE SHARED STORAGE SPACE OFF OF SKYLINE IS 16.5 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT PER YEAR. AND READING MY NOTE BECAUSE I PUT IT THERE FOR A REASON, THIS DOES NOT REFERENCE THE ACTUAL SPACE THAT THEY WILL TAKE, BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH A SPACE SELECTION PROCESS AFTER THAT. THIS IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE FIGURES DISPLAYED HERE DO NOT REFLECT THE STANDARD 10% PAYMENT FOR PRIVILEGE FEE OF GROSS REVENUE, THAT IS. THAT'S STILL IN THE AGREEMENT, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REVENUE IS SO THAT THIS IS A SET RENTAL FIGURES. HERTZ WAS 167,500. IN CHANGE ENTERPRISE THREE YEAR COMMITMENT IS 223,000 AND CHANGE IN NATIONAL ALAMO'S $269,000 OF CHANGE. FOR THE MORE ASTUTE OF YOU, WHO COULD LOOK AT THAT REALLY QUICKLY? A NATIONAL ALAMO WAS THE SECOND RANKED. FINISHED SECOND WITH ENTERPRISE HAVING THE HIGHEST BID, BUT NATIONAL ANIMALS SELECTED THE MOST SPACE, AND THAT RESULTED IN THEIR PAYMENT BEING HIGHER. SO HERE'S A REVENUE COMPARISON IN YEAR ONE OF THE CONTRACT, CURRENT RENT REVENUE IS $194,932.68. THIS WILL GO IN 2026 TO $218,075.16, WHICH REPRESENTS AN 11.87% INCREASE. AND THAT'S DESPITE LEAVING ONE OFFICE COUNTER, SPACE LOCK AND FACILITY OPEN. SO ON THURSDAY, YOU WILL HAVE OVERLAND WEST INCORPORATED OPERATING AGREEMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR APPROVAL. AND THAT ENTERPRISE RENT, A CAR COMPANY IN UTAH, HAS YET TO RETURN THEIR SIGNED AGREEMENTS, BUT THOSE ARE DUE ON THURSDAY THE 18TH. SO THIS IS BEING REPORTED TO YOU BECAUSE I HAVE THAT AGREEMENT AND WE WANT TO GET THAT SIGNED AS SOON AS WE CAN. AND I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO THE RFP. SO DOES THAT MEAN HERTZ IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE ANYMORE OR THAT WAS A SUCCESSFUL RESPONSE? THEY WERE. YES. DOING THIS GAVE US MUCH. OKAY. SO IS THAT A [00:10:03] TREND? WE'LL GET TO THAT IN THAT NEXT I'M KEEPING THIS TO THE RFP PROCESS FIRST. MY OTHER QUESTION IS SO THAT GIVES YOU SOME MORE SPACE TO ALLOCATE THAT YOU CAN GENERATE REVENUE FROM. IT LOOKS LIKE OR WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH THAT. YEAH I THERE'S THE PLAN'S BEEN GOING. SO I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY. THEN THERE WILL MOST DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA FOR THE HERTZ PIECE. BUT THE ENTERPRISE OF UTAH, THEY HAVEN'T RETURNED THERE TO SUCCESSFUL CONTRACT SIGNING. IF THEY RETURN THEM BY THURSDAY. WOULD COUNCIL WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE SINCE WE'RE NOT HAVING ANOTHER MEETING THIS YEAR, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO US PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THEY WILL BE HERE ON THURSDAY? WE GET THEM AND WE AND WE REVIEW THEM ON THURSDAY IF THEY COME AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA OR WE PRE-APPROVE WHAT WOULD BE BETTER? I WOULD FIND WITH REMOVING IT. THESE AGREEMENTS START FEBRUARY 1ST, 2026. SO WE HAVE TIME. OKAY, SO WE CAN WRAP THOSE UP ON JANUARY 8TH. YEAH I JUST I WANTED TO I WANTED TO GET THEM ALL THREE DONE AT THE SAME TIME BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS. BUT THE TIMELINES END UP BEING TIMELINES ARE WHEN YOU MAKE ADJUSTMENTS THROUGH A PROCESS. SO WE COULD ALSO JUST ADJUST THE CURRENT ONE THAT YOU'VE WRITTEN FOR ALAMO AND ADD THE OTHER INFORMATION. AND THEN UNADJUSTED ON THURSDAY, THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK. I THINK I'M VERY COMFORTABLE SET THE AGENDA YET. I MEAN, IT HAS TO GO OUT TODAY OR TOMORROW. SO WE'VE GOT UNTIL TOMORROW. COULD YOU I MEAN, WOULD IT HURT TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN WE COULD AMEND THE AGENDA BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE THIS THING BECAUSE THE DOCUMENTS DIDN'T COME THROUGH THIS. THIS IS I'M JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT'S EASIEST FOR YOU. I'M PROVIDING THIS REPORT TODAY BECAUSE I HAD A ROLE IN WEST'S AGREEMENT OPERATING AS HERTZ, AND I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA TO KEEP THAT MOVING. THERE IS NO CONCERN FROM MY PERSPECTIVE OF WAITING FOR THE FIRST MEETINGS IN IN JANUARY FOR ENTERPRISES TO AGREEMENTS. OKAY. WE'LL KEEP IT CLEAN THEN. YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT WAS ALL. THAT'S THAT'S THE PLAN I PUT IN PLACE. SO? SO THERE'S NO NEED TO DISRUPT IT. IT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY THAT YOU CAN PROCEED. THANKS FOR. SO WHAT TO DO WITH THE UNAWARDED SPACE? AND. YES, IF UNAWARDED IS NOT A WORD I JUST CREATED. THE CURRENT AGREEMENT AS WELL AS THE AGREEMENT INCLUDED IN THE RFP REQUIRES ANY OF THE SPACE THAT'S TRADITIONALLY BEEN USED FOR CARBON OPERATIONS. AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE CONTINUED USE, BE USED FOR CURRENT OPERATIONS, BE OFFERED AT NO LESS FAVORABLE TERMS THAN THOSE AGREEMENTS. KEEPING THAT IN MIND, WE WANT TO FAIRLY DISPERSE THAT SPACE, AND WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT TO THE AIRPORT. OTHERWISE THERE'S NOT A PURPOSE IN RENTING IT OUT AT ALL. AND SO THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AS STAFF IS UTILIZING SOME OF THAT SPACE FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING, WE LOOKED AT IT AS TURNING IT INTO A REVENUE GENERATING PARKING LOT AND A COUPLE OTHER ANCILLARY THINGS, WHETHER IT WAS RELATED TO A COFFEE SHOP OR SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF TAILWINDS. THE RESTAURANT OPERATOR WANTED TO DO, NONE OF THOSE THINGS REALLY PANNED OUT FROM A PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILT FOR A CAR RENTAL OPERATION. ON THE OTHER SIDE, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGES AT THE AIRPORT IS WHEN PEOPLE ARRIVE IN IDAHO FALLS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY'RE GOING, RELIABLE GROUND TRANSPORTATION OUTSIDE OF THE CAR RENTAL OPERATORS CAN BE A CHALLENGE. AND SO WE MOVE FORWARD BY GAUGING INTEREST ON THAT SPACE FROM THOSE WHO ATTENDED THE PRE-BID MEETING. THOSE WERE ALL OF THE INCUMBENTS. NO SOONER HAD WE CLOSED THE BID THAN WE WERE RECEIVING EMAILS FROM AVIS. STILL GET BACK. OKAY, OKAY. AND WHAT THEY WERE, THEY SIMPLY FORGOT TO BID. THEY FORGOT TO CLICK SUBMIT OR SOME VERSION OF THAT. AND WE DID TURN DOWN WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING AS UNTIMELY BECAUSE IT WAS UNTIMELY. IT WASN'T. IT DID NOT HIT THE DEADLINE. AND SO WE WE RECEIVED INTEREST FROM TWO PARTIES FROM AVIS BUDGET GROUP AS WELL AS ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR COMPANY OF UTAH IN THAT SPACE THAT REMAINS, I PROVIDED A DRAFT AGREEMENT THAT REFLECTED THE NO LESS FAVORABLE RATES OR, SORRY, LESS FAVORABLE TERMS TO THOSE ENTITIES. AS PART OF THAT OPTION FOR SUPPLEMENTAL SPACE SELECTION. AND I RECEIVED A BID FROM BOTH AVIS BUDGET GROUP AND ENTERPRISE. AVIS BUDGET GROUP'S PROPOSAL WAS $219,128.82 OVER THE THREE YEAR AGREEMENT FOR THE RENTAL RATE AND ENTERPRISE, IT WAS $254,971.98. FOR THE THREE YEAR AGREEMENT, I HAVE [00:15:05] INFORMED BOTH PARTIES OF THIS RESULT AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UNLESS YOU DIRECT ME OTHERWISE HERE, MY INTENTION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ENTERPRISE BID. THE REASON FOR US MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT IS KIND OF THREEFOLD. NUMBER ONE, WE GAVE EVERY EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY TO THOSE WHO EXIST AT THE AIRPORT TODAY, AS WELL AS THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED WITH THE RFP PROCESS TO PROVIDE A BID. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT BOTH THOSE ENTITIES SENT ME WITHIN MINUTES OF EACH OTHER, EMAILS THAT WERE DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED. THEY WANTED US TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM DIRECTLY, AND THAT WAS THEIR PREFERRED METHOD FORWARD. AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I WOULD HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT CREATING SOME SORT OF WEIRD ETHICAL LEGAL CONUNDRUM. AND IN THE BROAD SCOPE OF THINGS, THIS IS THE PATH FORWARD THAT MAKES THE AIRPORT GENERATE THE MOST REVENUE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. IS IT? DOES IT BLOCK PEOPLE WHO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH CERTAIN COMPANIES? LIKE, ARE WE LOSING THAT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL CHANGE PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR ABOUT WHERE THEY FLY INTO. BECAUSE IF I'M IF I'M A LIFETIME MEMBER OF ONE AND I HAVE THOSE POINTS, I'M FLYING INTO POCATELLO OR, HEY, THIS IS THE CLOSEST OPERATION OUTSIDE JACKSON OR SALT LAKE. MY MY CONVERSATIONS WITH AVIS ON THAT TOPIC IS THAT THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF LEAVING IDAHO FALLS OR GIVING UP THE MARKET SHARE, SO THEY HAVE A PLACE SOMEWHERE THEY CAN SERVICE THE AIRPORT SOMEHOW, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITHOUT SPECULATING. THAT'S. BUT THAT HAPPENS AT OTHER AIRPORTS, I GUESS, IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT ENTERPRISE HAS ON THE HIGHWAY RIGHT NOW, OR SOMEWHERE IN THE NORTH GATE MILE. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT SWITCHES FROM THEIR OFFICE, BUT THIS IS ALSO A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT, SO IT'S NOT A PERMANENT SITUATION. I DO WANT TO TO TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT THE REVENUE COMPARISON LOOKS LIKE WITH THE SPACE BEING FULLY LEASED, GRANT REVENUE IN 2026 WILL BE $302,511.58, WHICH IS 55% INCREASE OVER 2025. WHICH PAINTS A PICTURE THAT OUR RENTAL RATES HAVE BEEN LOW FOR A VERY LONG TIME. SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A BIT OF CONSENSUS. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF OUR LIAISON COUNCIL OR COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IF YOU ARE COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS OR IF YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE FOR YOUR COLLEAGUES. YEAH, I'M COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PATH MOVING FORWARD. I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO HAVE GONE. I THINK HE DID A GOOD JOB BY NOT LETTING SOMEONE COME IN AFTER THE RFP, YOU KNOW, SHUTTING THAT DOWN AND THEN HAVING THE I THINK HE'S DONE A GREAT JOB WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ASSUME MOST EVERYBODY AGREES, BUT I WANT TO TURN TO COUNCILOR FRANCIS FIRST TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR BRADFORD. NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, JIM. JOHN. SO JUST MY QUESTION. SO WHAT IS ENTERPRISE GOING TO DO WITH IT? THEY HAVE THE SAME. ISN'T THAT THE SAME COMPANIES OR NOT. THEY JUST HAVE TWO DESKS NOW. THEY'LL HAVE THREE. YEAH. THE NEED FOR SPACE ON ON ALL THE PARTIES ACCOUNTS IS IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO TURN THE FLEET OVER RIGHT NOW WITH HOW BUSY THEY ARE. SO THEIR, THEIR, THEIR BID WAS VERY MUCH DRIVEN TOWARDS A READY RETURN SPACES, WHICH IS THE BIG CONSTRICTING POINT. AND THAT AND THAT'S WHERE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SUPPLEMENTAL BIDS FOR THAT SPACE CAME INTO PLAY. SO AND WE'RE LOSING WHICH TWO OF THE AIRPORT LAW. SO IF I FLY IN IT. WHAT'S THAT. AVIS BUDGET SAME ONE AVIS SLASH BUDGET. BUT AREN'T THEY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S ONE ENTITY OPERATING TWO RENTAL CAR BRANDS RIGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE LOYALTY IF YOU'RE FLYING IN, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT. YEAH. HAS ANYONE ELSE BEEN THROUGH THIS LIKE ANY OTHER AIRPORTS. LIKE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET AS PUSHBACK? I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS HAPPEN ANYWHERE. AND THIS IS ALSO BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT RFP I'VE EVER DONE FOR SURE. CAN WE HEAR FROM LEGAL WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE TO. I THINK THAT'S OF INTEREST TO ME. LEGAL CONCERNS ARE YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF WELL, HOW ABOUT NOT THE BROAD SPECTRUM OF CONCERNS. BUT JUST IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO ENDORSE THE RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH THE HIGHER BID IN THE SECOND ROUND, THE PROBLEM THAT YOU FORESEE? NO, I THINK DIRECTOR [00:20:01] TURNER HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF MAKING THE PROCESS FAIR. WE ARE NOT UNDER THE PROCUREMENT STATUTES BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A PROCUREMENT. AND SO BUT I THINK HE'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF OF MAKING THE PROCESS FAIR BY REOPENING WHEN IT WAS UNTIMELY BID, REOPENING IT TO BASICALLY ANOTHER BID AND THEN JUST GOING OFF THE NUMBERS. I THINK THAT WAS A FAIR PROCESS TO FOLLOW. AND THEY THEY HAD A PERFECTLY EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO BID HIGH TO BE CAREFUL TO KEEP THEIR MARKET SHARE. WE SHARED THE BIDS WITH THEM TOO, SO THEY SAW WHAT THE OTHER PERSON DID FROM THE PREVIOUS BID AROUND. WHAT DID THEY KNOW? ROUND ONE. THAT'S NOT TRUE. I'M NOT. I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT SHE SAID. I THOUGHT THAT YOU SHARED THE BIDS WITH THE TWO COMPANIES THAT WERE BIDDING. AVIS DID SUBMIT A RECORDS REQUEST TO TAKE BIDS. OKAY. YES. SO THEY KNOW WHAT THE OTHER WAS? UNKNOWN. THEY COULD. THEY COULD HAVE REBID OR. OKAY, THAT PROBABLY HELPS ME. AND SO THERE'S NO NO ROOM FOR CHALLENGE THAT THAT YOU CAN FORESEE THAT THAT WE WOULD YOU CAN ALWAYS CHALLENGE SOMETHING. BUT I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD LEGAL SHAPE OKAY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WHAT MOSTLY YOU WANTED TO HEAR. CORRECT. YEAH. SO I A DIFFERENT KIND OF QUESTION. AND THAT IS AFTER THREE YEARS THEY WILL HAVE QUITE A PRESENCE AND THEY WILL HAVE REALLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, HAD THE SPACE TO PERHAPS EVEN GROW THEIR FLEET OR JUST GET A LOT OF BUSINESS GOING. AND IF WE HAVEN'T FOUND A WAY TO EXPAND SPACE FOR OUR RENTAL CAR OPERATORS AT THE END OF THREE YEARS, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT SPACE PROVIDED BY THEN, WILL THEY JUST HAVE TO BID LIKE CRAZY TO KEEP THEIR THREE DESKS, OR ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE TO CONSTRICT? I MEAN, IT'S JUST THAT'S A THAT'S A THOUGHT QUESTION AND IT MAY NOT EVEN MERIT AN ANSWER. IT'S HYPOTHETICAL. BUT YEAH, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT, OKAY, THIS IS NOT AN OUTCOME I COULD HAVE PREDICTED. AND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? THE ONLY SILVER LINING I FOUND IN THAT THINKING IS THAT IT'S A THREE YEAR TERM, NOT A FIVE. THERE'S A A METHOD TO MY THINKING, AND I DIDN'T EXACTLY PREPARE MYSELF TO TALK ABOUT. BUT MY REASONING FOR KEEPING IT TO THE THREE YEAR ON THE FRONT END WAS WE'RE GROWING AT A RATE THAT'S PRETTY UNPREDICTABLE RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE IN THE WAY IN A LOT OF WAYS FOR WHAT WE WANT TO DO. AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BACK US OURSELVES INTO A CORNER WITH A LONG TERM AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE HAVING TO BUY THEM OUT OF SOMETHING ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS, OR DELAYING IMPORTANT PROJECTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY SILVER LINING. BUT IT WAS ALL HAPPENSTANCE. I COULD NOT HAVE PREDICTED THIS OUTCOME. DID ANY OF THEM QUESTION THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT? THEY THE LONGER THE TERM, THE BETTER? YEAH, IT'S PREDICTABLE, BUT THAT WAS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AIRPORT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. JUST SO I'M CLEAR, AVIS AND BUDGET ARE OUT. HERTZ, ALAMO AND WHO ELSE IS IN. SO OVERLAND WEST OPERATES HERTZ AND THEN ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR COMPANY OF UTAH LLC, WHICH IS A WHOLLY OWNED LLC OF ENTERPRISE MOBILITY, I BELIEVE. OKAY, BUT OPERATES ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR AND NATIONAL INITIATIVE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, COUNSELOR, JUST A SIDE QUESTION. SO 55% 5,455%, IS THIS CATCH UP OR IS THIS JUST THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT? YES, YES. OKAY. SO SO ONE OF THE THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WE WOULDN'T EXPECT TO SEE A SIMILAR JUMP IN REVENUES. MAYBE WE'RE STILL LOW. SO SO HERE'S HERE'S WHERE I'M AT. I'LL WEIGH IN ON MY, MY, WHEN I DID THIS IN 2021, MY PREVIOUS AIRPORT, WE WERE CHARGING RENTAL COUNTER SPACE AND OFFICE SPACE AT $56 PER SQUARE FOOT PER YEAR, OR JUST A BIT OVER HALF OF THAT. OUR READY RETURN STALLS WERE BEING CHARGED. WE WERE CHARGING OVER $100 PER MONTH, AND THAT WAS REALLY THE BASIS OF IT. WE HAD A DIFFERENT SETUP ON THAT QUICK TURNAROUND FACILITY THERE, AND SO WE'RE WE'RE BEHIND IN A HIGHER COST TO OPERATE MARGIN THAN WE WERE AT MY PREVIOUS AIRPORT IN THE UPPER MIDWEST. SO I STILL THINK WE ARE BEHIND. I THINK WE SHOULD EASILY WIN 120 TO $125 PER STALL PER YEAR FOR THE READY RETURN. I THINK OUR OFFICE AND COUNTER SPACE IS PROBABLY CLOSE TO $50. IF WE WERE TO CALCULATE THAT OUT AS A STRICT COST RECOVERY RATE AND THE FACILITY IN THE SHARED SHARED USE SPACE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A GUESS AT THIS POINT, THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT, THAT THOSE RATES WERE UNDER THE 80 TO $85 RANGE PER RETURN STALL, AND YOU SAW THE RATES FOR THE OTHER ITEMS. SO IF THEY DO GO OFF [00:25:01] SITE, DID THEY EVER COME BACK ONCE THEY'VE INVESTED AND IT'S WORKING AND THEY START REVIEWING AND THEY'RE DOING FINE, WHY COME BACK AND PAY OUR RATES? THERE'S AN INCONVENIENCE FACTOR. THEIR CUSTOMER HAVE TO BE HAULED OFF SITE. IT WILL STILL BE OBLIGATED TO PAY THE 10% PRIVILEGE FEE, BECAUSE WE ARE PROVIDING A MARKET AND A SIGNIFICANT COST TO THE IDAHO FALLS REGIONAL AIRPORT FOR ACCESS TO THAT MARKET. AND SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS TO TO YOUR QUESTION THAT WOULD DRIVE THEM BACK TO THE AIRPORT. BUT ALSO, I MEAN, IF IF THEY MAKE IT OFF SITE, THAT'S LESS WORK OFF OFF THE AIRPORT AND CAPITAL AND FACILITIES THAT WE CAN INVEST INTO OTHER IMPORTANT ITEMS. AND THEN WHAT MARKET SHARE DID THEY HAVE? DO YOU KNOW? BECAUSE ONE ISSUE THAT I HAVE THAT I'M INTERESTED IN IS I'M INTERESTED IN OUR COMPETITION WITH BOZEMAN. AS FOR THE TRAVELER TO YELLOWSTONE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND IF THIS MAKES US A DISADVANTAGE, THEN I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL AS WE TRY TO ATTRACT PLAYERS. AND BOZEMAN HAVE THEM AND WILL WILL THEY HAVE THEM, I ASSUME ON SITE? I'M GOING TO TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LOOK, BECAUSE I DO MONITOR WHAT BOZEMAN DOES FOR SIMILAR REASONS. BUT ONE OF THE ELEMENTS TO WHY I DRAFTED THE RFP THE WAY I DID WAS TO OPEN THE DOOR TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE GOING ON UP THERE. THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF OFF SITE CARNIVAL OPERATORS. THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF THE SMALLER RENTAL CAR BRANDS UNDER THESE, THESE LARGE CONGLOMERATES. SO WE HAD OPENED THE DOOR IN THIS RFP TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE ADDITIONAL BRANDS. WE'RE MISSING THE THRIFTY BRAND. HERTZ HAS A DOLLAR BRAND. THOSE WERE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD REQUESTED WHEN WE MET WITH THEM LAST YEAR, AND THEN THEY DID NOT PUT THEM IN THEIR BIDS. AND SO SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE THEIR BUSINESS DECISIONS THAT THAT WERE THAT THEY'RE DRIVING TOWARD. BUT I DO SEE OUR NEED, AND I'M HOPEFULLY THE NEXT ITEM PREPARING US TO TRULY ADDRESS, I THINK, WHAT I VIEW AS THE DISRUPTOR IN THIS INDUSTRY, TO MAKE IT MORE VIABLE FOR FOR US TO CAPTURE THOSE TRAVELERS. I LIKE THAT BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A MARKET OUT THERE, PARTICULARLY FOR US, FOR LARGER SUV PICKUP TYPES FOR CAMPERS, AND THEN HAVE READY MADE CAMPS STUFF IN THOSE. SO I DO THINK THERE'S ALL KINDS OF INTERESTING THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN. AND SO THAT'S I KNOW TURTLES, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THOSE THOSE VEHICLES ARE NOT BEING RENTED BY ANY MONEY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SORRY. YEAH OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF NOT THEN I THINK THE DIRECTOR IS TAKING FROM THIS MEETING THE LACK OF CONCERN ABOUT THE PATH FORWARD, WHICH IS TO GO WITH THE LARGER BID IN THE SECOND ROUND, GIVEN THE PROCESS THAT HE USED, WHICH SEEMS VERY FAIR TO EVERYONE. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON THEN. I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YOU KNOW, HE TEXTED ME FROM THE BACKGROUND. YEAH. THAT'S GOOD. IS IT 3,035% OF THE MARKET? OKAY. AND THE OTHER THING I WAS INTERESTED IN THIS IS WE RENT MORE CARS, RIGHT. BECAUSE BEING HERE, LIKE WE ARE A REALLY LARGE FLEET. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS A YES. AND DO YOU KNOW, ARE WE IN THE BALLPARK WITH BOZEMAN? THERE ARE 30 MINUTES FROM THEIR NORTH ENTRANCE, BUT THERE ARE 90 THERE. IT'S EQUAL DISTANCE TO WEST YELLOWSTONE. SO I ALWAYS THINK THAT'S A FASCINATING QUESTION. AND I ALWAYS COUNTER THAT TYPE OF ARGUMENT WITH THE DRIVE TO WEST YELLOWSTONE FROM HERE IS A WHOLE LOT EASIER, EASIER AND SAFER. YEAH, YEAH. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE NORTH. I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING FOR MANY MILES IN. RIGHT? OKAY, OKAY OKAY. SURE, SURE. TURO, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, IS A PEER TO PEER CAR SHARING NETWORK. YOU CAN TAKE YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE OR AN UNUSED SEDAN THAT'S SITTING AT HOME, SUBMIT IT FOR A BRIEF MAINTENANCE REVIEW, AS WELL AS A REVIEW OF YOUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY MEET THEIR STANDARDS AND RENT YOUR CAR OUT ON THEIR APP BASED PLATFORM. TO OTHERS. IT IS A PHONE APPLICATION BASED SYSTEM, AND I LOOK AT IT ESSENTIALLY AS A DECONSTRUCTED RENTAL CAR OPERATION. BUT IT REALLY IS NOT A RENTAL CAR OPERATION, BUT IT COMPETES WITH RENTAL CARS. THERE'S A LARGE PRESENCE HERE AND THEY ARE OPERATING IN IDAHO FALLS. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN MONITORING PROBABLY THOROUGHLY FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF. THIS PAST JULY, WE WE HAD ENOUGH DATA TO TO SEND THEM SOMETHING, SAY, HEY, YOU NEED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE IDAHO FALLS REGIONAL AIRPORT AND THE CITY, WHAT IT DOES BY NOT ENTERING INTO A CONTRACT WITH THEM AS IT REDUCES OUR OVERALL RENTAL CAR REVENUE. WE HAVE OPERATIONS THAT ARE GOING ON WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE OR OUR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY'RE [00:30:02] OPERATING. MUNICIPAL CODE DOES REQUIRE ANYONE OPERATING A BUSINESS ENTERPRISE ON THE AIRPORT TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, AND WE'RE PROVIDING A MARKETPLACE FOR SHARED VEHICLE TRANSACTIONS, WHICH IS A TERM I JUST DAWNED ON ME MIGHT GET LOST ON YOU. THE SHARED VEHICLE IS A VEHICLE OWNED BY MYSELF AND MAYBE RENTED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. THE VEHICLE'S A SHARED VEHICLE. I'M THE SHARED VEHICLE OWNER, AND THEN IN THIS CASE, THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD BE THE SHARED VEHICLE OPERATOR. WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY COMPENSATION FOR PROVIDING THAT MARKET TO TURO AND THEIR USERS. SO IN JULY, WE INITIATED NEGOTIATIONS BY SENDING THEM A LETTER, BASICALLY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, HERE'S ALL THE DATA SHOWING YOU'RE OPERATING HERE IN IDAHO FALLS IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT. AND THEY ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO US IN A PRETTY TIMELY MANNER, WHICH I WAS VERY IMPRESSED BY. IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER, WE RESEARCHED AND DRAFTED, DRAFTED AN AGREEMENT, AND THEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST MONTH AND A HALF TO TWO MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THEM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT INITIATED IN JANUARY. KEY POINTS OF THIS AGREEMENT COME INTO THREE CATEGORIES REVENUE, AUTHORITY AND OPERATIONS. REVENUE PIECE IS THAT THERE WILL BE A SHARED VEHICLE TRANSACTION THAT OCCURS WITHIN THE PARKING LOT. WE ARE AUTHORIZING THEM TO UTILIZE OUR PAID PARKING LOTS, AND THEN EITHER THE SHARED VEHICLE OWNER OR THE SHARED VEHICLE OPERATOR WILL PAY THAT PARKING FEE. THAT'LL BE TAKEN CARE OF BETWEEN THOSE TWO ENTITIES. AND THEN TURO WILL IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEIR WILLINGNESS TO NEGOTIATE WITH US, THAT WE HAVE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR BUSINESS AND THAT THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE THAT 10% PRIVILEGE FEE FOR THAT GROSS REVENUE TO THE AIRPORT FOR THEIR OPERATION. ON THE AUTHORITY SIDE, THIS DOES ESTABLISH TURO AS A VALID GROUND TRANSPORTATION PROVIDER, ALLOWS THE AIRPORT TO OFFER BETTER OVERALL CUSTOMER SERVICE. RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE GET ASKED, HEY, WHERE'S MY CAR? I RENTED IT THROUGH TURO. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEY'RE AT. AND ON THE DOWN SIDE, OFTENTIMES THOSE ARE BEING TAKEN. THOSE THOSE TRANSACTIONS ARE CURRENTLY BEING TAKEN PLACE ON CITY SIDE STREETS, DOWN OFF OF OLYMPIA OR IN OUR PARKING LOTS. AND THEN WE CAN NOW WORK TO ADDRESS ANY POTENTIAL CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS BETWEEN THE SHARED VEHICLE OWNER, SHARED VEHICLE DRIVER TURO AND THE AIRPORT, AND THEN THE OPERATIONAL ITEMS THAT I JUST MENTIONED ARE ADDRESSED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CONDUCTING THOSE TRANSACTIONS CURBSIDE OR IN OUR TENANT SPACE. TAKEAWAY HERE IS THAT THIS IS A NEW REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE AIRPORT. I ANTICIPATE ON THE LOW END THAT IT COULD BE $6,000 A MONTH, UPWARDS OF $10,000 PER MONTH, AND THEN THESE LAST TWO BULLET POINTS CHANGED ABOUT THREE HOURS AGO. I DID GET THE SIGNED AGREEMENT BACK THIS MORNING AS OPPOSED TO LAST WEEK, LIKE I ANTICIPATED. I GUESS THE THIRD BULLET POINT STILL VALID, BUT IT ESTABLISHES FAIR COMPETITION WITH REGARD TO RATES AND FEES WITH THE RAILCAR OPERATIONS. AND SO WHEN THIS TIES BACK TO THE FAIR COMPETITION ELEMENT IN THE RFP, THAT'S THAT'S THE AREA WHERE IT IS, BECAUSE THIS IS A STICKING POINT WITH THE CAR RENTALS. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT TURO, THEY VIEW AS A CAR RENTAL OPERATOR, IS BEING TREATED IN A SIMILAR FASHION TO THEM. SO. QUESTIONS? YEAH, I LIKE THIS. I'VE USED TURO IN OTHER CITIES. IT CAN BE A GREAT USE OF WHEN THE OTHERS ARE OUT. AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF REASONS IT GETS USED, BUT IT CAN ALSO BE REVENUE FOR OUR LOCAL FOLKS. LIKE, DO YOU? I IN TERMS OF THIS, IS THERE MONTHS LIKE IS OUR SUMMER MONTHS BIGGER IN TURO OR IS IT THE WINTER TOO? I DON'T HAVE THE VISIBILITY INTO THAT TYPICALLY. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE TURO FLEETS, AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE RENTING ON TURO, A HIGHER LEVEL, DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE VEHICLE THAN WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THROUGH AVIS BUDGET ENTERPRISE. AND HERE YOU'RE SEEING LARGE TRUCKS, YOU'RE SEEING SPORTS CARS, CORVETTES. IT'S AN EXPERIENCE KIND OF THING. IT IS I HAVE LIKENED A FEW OF THE THINGS I'VE SEEN TO OKAY. YOU FOUND SOME INTERNATIONAL TRAVELER THAT THINKS THEY HAVE TO GO TO YELLOWSTONE WITH YOUR SOUPED UP JEEP WRANGLER, WITH ITS SNORKEL AND ALL THESE THINGS, JUST TO FIND YOURSELF IN A TRAFFIC JAM ON PAVEMENT AND ALL THIS STUFF. SO THEY DO WITH YOU. BUT IT'S THESE ARE HIGH REVENUE GENERATING VEHICLES THAT I'M SEEING. YOU CAN STILL GET YOUR YOUR HONDA CIVIC ON THERE. BUT YEAH, IT'S WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR ESTIMATES. 6 TO 10,000 FROM A FEW MONTHS YOU DID FOLLOW OR THEY SAID THAT I AM I FEEL I'M BEING PRETTY CONSERVATIVE WITH THOSE ESTIMATES. EVERY OTHER AIRPORT I'VE TALKED TO SAYS ALL THEIR ESTIMATES HAVE BEEN PLANNED OR [00:35:04] WHAT THEY ACTUALLY CAPTURE IN THESE AGREEMENTS. AND SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN IN, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR RANGE. BUT I DID NOT WANT TO PUT THAT IN WRITING BECAUSE THAT COULD BE WRONG. AND IT'S IT'S NEW. I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA REALLY, OTHER THAN WHAT'S POSTED OUT THERE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING RENTED, OTHER THAN WHEN WE SEE THINGS THAT ARE RENTED, IS WHEN THERE'S AN ADVERTISEMENT ON THE BUMPER AND A CAR SAYS, HEY, RENT. BEYOND TRURO, MOST OF THE TRURO VEHICLES LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER VEHICLE APART. SO SINCE WE'RE TALKING DOLLARS COMING IN WITH PUBLIC PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITY, THERE MAY BE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WANT TO KNOW, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE ROLLING IN DOUGH, TO USE AN OLD, OLD EXPRESSION THAT MY FATHER USED TO USE BACK IN THE 1960S OR 70S, I THINK. BUT THE IDEA IS, AT THIS PRESENT TIME, WITH 2025 RATES, AND EARLIER WE WERE WE WERE HAVING TO SUBSIDIZE THESE OPERATIONS WITH PARKING FEES. GOING FORWARD, ARE WE OUT OF THE SUBSIDY ZONE OR ARE WE JUST STILL ARE WE STILL IN SUBSIDY ZONE WITH THE NEW DOLLARS THAT YOU PROJECTED? AND I'M TALKING BACK WITH THE RENTALS AS WELL AS THE TRURO DOLLARS COMING IN. THE AIRPORT HASN'T BEEN SUBSIDIZED. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. IF YOU'RE REFERENCING MY COMMENT EARLIER ABOUT SUBSIDIZING SOMETHING, I WAS MOVING AIRPORT REVENUE OVER HERE TO COVER AN EXPENSE OVER HERE. THAT REALLY OUGHT TO BE SEPARATE, RIGHT? RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT REFERENCING THE CITY GENERAL FUND ESSENTIALLY REFERENCING THE FIRST. YEAH. SO THIS THIS WOULD BE UNRESTRICTED AIRPORT REVENUE. AND WE CAN USE TO RIGHTSIZE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM ISSUES. AND WE WILL NOT THEN BE USING PARKING FEES TO COVER ANY OF OUR EXPENSES ON THE RENTAL SIDE OR ON THE OTHER SIDE. I WOULD I WOULD DRAW A LINE BETWEEN THOSE TWO. THAT WAS MORE TOWARDS THE ISSUE WITH WHAT THE CAR RENTAL ENTITIES ARE PAYING FOR TERMINAL RENT. OKAY, TRURO WILL NOT BE GENERATING ANY REVENUE THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THE TERMINAL PROGRAM. SO WITH THE 55% INCREASE IN. DOLLARS COMING IN FROM THE RENTAL, PLUS THE TRURO MONEY THAT HERETOFORE HAD NEVER BEEN CAPTURED, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING IN TO THE PARTICULAR ACCOUNT THAT WE'RE CALLING RENTAL MONEY AND GENERICALLY. AND SO ALL OF THAT THEN WILL BE UNRESTRICTED. ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR EXPENSES IS UNRESTRICTED REVENUE. THAT WILL GO, AS YOU JUST SAID, TOWARD CAPITAL EXPENSES THAT WE ARE. MOST DEFINITELY BEHIND IN, IN AMASSING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE KIND OF CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT THAT OUR AIRPORT NEEDS IN THE FACE OF ALL OF OUR GROWTH. YES, THAT'S THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY BE CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THE MONEY COMING IN, IT'S ONLY GOING TOWARD SAVINGS FOR THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY I ASKED THAT. INARTICULATELY. SO A LOT OF GROWTH EITHER WAY THAT WAS GOING TO COME. I OFTEN CONFUSE IAN WITH MY FUMBLING WORDS. SO ANYBODY ELSE WANT? I SIMPLY WANT TO BE ACCURATE IN MY RESPONSE. WHY WE LIKE YOU. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO BREEZE THROUGH THIS LAST TOPIC BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAST TIME I WANT TO REGULARLY BRIEF YOU ON AVIATION WORKER SCREENING. GENERAL FINDINGS. WE'VE HAD VERY FEW ISSUES, WHICH I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR. THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE PROCURED HAS BEEN WORKING VERY WELL, AND ULTIMATELY THE WHOLE OPERATION IS NOT QUITE AS COMPLEX AS I HAD FEARED WHEN WE WERE BEGINNING THIS CONVERSATION. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, ALL AVIATION WORKERS AT THE AIRPORT, WHETHER IT'S OUR STAFF OR THE AIRLINE STAFF OR OTHERS, HAVE ADJUSTED VERY WELL TO BEING SCREENED MOVING FORWARD. THE STAFFING MODEL THAT WE HAVE HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. WE KNEW THIS FROM THE GET GO THAT ASKING PEOPLE TO WORK PART TIME ON A RANDOM SCHEDULE, WHICH IS REALLY THE REQUIREMENT IN THE TSA, IS VERY DIFFICULT. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THREE OUT OF THE FOUR POSITIONS HAVE BEEN FILLED BY VERY RELIABLE EMPLOYEES THAT AT SOME POINT, WHEN THEY EITHER FINISH COLLEGE OR DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WHEN THEY GROW UP, WILL BE PHENOMENAL EMPLOYEES FOR SOMEONE. AND I DO HOPE THEY CAN STAY WITH THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS. COSTS ARE NOT QUITE AS HIGH AS WE ORIGINALLY EXPECTED, BUT THEY'RE ALSO NOT AS LOW AS WE HAD HOPED FOR. ONCE THE TSA APPROVED OUR PROCESS, THE ACTUAL SCREENING TIME IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER, THE LABOR COSTS A BIT HIGHER, AND THEN THE FUTURE EQUIPMENT COSTS ARE STILL AN UNKNOWN. AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S AN ACTIVE COURT CASE GOING ON. THERE'S A HIGH POTENTIAL THAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS WILL CHANGE. US APPEALS COURT IN D.C. HAS DIRECTED THE TSA TO. I JUST LOST THE WORD. THEY NEED TO REDO THEIR NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING ON THIS, AS THE COURT FOUND THEM TO HAVE [00:40:02] NOT QUITE FOLLOWED THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES ACT CORRECTLY. SO WHATEVER THAT COMES OUT OF THAT WILL CHANGE THIS. AND THEN THE COURT HAS RESERVED THE RIGHT TO WEIGH IN FURTHER, ONCE TSA HAS FIXED ITS FIRST OF ALL TURNING POINT ON THIS WHOLE PROCESS. SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I AM CONSIDERING THIS A NORMAL OPERATION UNTIL TOLD OTHERWISE, AND I DON'T PLAN ON PROVIDING ANY FURTHER UPDATES. OKAY. BUT I THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE AN INTEREST IF THE LITIGATION DOES PRODUCE A SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, THAT THAT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE NORMAL OPERATIONS PIECE OF THIS. BUT YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS WITH THAT LAST BIT. ALL RIGHT. WELL WE KIND OF ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO TEACH. AND I'M SORRY I WENT OVER MY 20 MINUTES. WE HAVE THE [Municipal Services] ROOM TODAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT BIT IS A GOOD ONE. WE HAVE PAM AND SHE HAS SEVERAL MEMBERS OF HER TEAM HERE FOR A COUPLE MEMBERS OF HER TEAM HERE, DO YOU WANT THEM TO JOIN YOU OR ARE YOU GOING TO GO SOLO FOR NOW? MARK'S GOING TO COME UP WITH, BUT I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS, IF I MAY. SO. SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AT THE TABLE THIS EVENING. THIS IS A DRAFT CONVERSATION. WE WANT TO GET THIS CONVERSATION OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ELICIT SOME FEEDBACK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT JUST WANTED TO DO A LITTLE MILESTONE HERE THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT OUR ANNUAL AUDIT THAT WE HAD IN 2023, ONE OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAD WAS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO OUR PURCHASING PROCESS. NOW, WE DID HAVE A MATRIX THAT TALKED ABOUT THE STATE STATUTE AND THE THRESHOLDS OF DIFFERENT EXPENDITURES AND DIFFERENT VEHICLES, IF YOU WILL, OR MECHANISMS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE USED IN ORDER FOR US TO BE COMPLIANT WITH STATE STATUTE. BUT OUR EXTERNAL AUDITORS SAID THAT THAT MATRIX WAS JUST JUST NOT ENOUGH. I MEAN, IT WASN'T A POLICY. AND AS YOU KNOW, POLICIES ARE RECOMMENDED TO BE PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNING BOARD. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY, IF YOU WILL, TEETH IN THEM IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE POLICY. AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND WHAT THE FINANCE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON IS WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENTAL UNIT, PUTTING TOGETHER SOME POLICIES. SO THIS IS ONE OF SEVERAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING FORWARD TO YOU OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S A DRAFT. NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE MARK GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS. WE DO HAVE SOME SLIDES TO SHOW YOU. AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE OUR PROCUREMENT, OUR PURCHASING AND AP SUPERVISOR TIM MCCAMMON HERE. HE'S PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT ALONG WITH HIS TEAM TO TO PULL THIS DRAFT TOGETHER FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO ADD, MARK OR DID I GET YOU ALL. OH THAT'S GOOD. AWESOME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, PAM, FOR THE INTRODUCTION. AND WE'LL HAVE HIM COME SIT UP HERE WITH US. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO GO THROUGH, TALK ABOUT WHY WE'RE HERE, WHERE WE'RE GOING. AND SO THE PURPOSE OF A COUNCIL APPROVED FINANCIAL POLICIES IS JUST IT'S TO BRING CONSISTENCY, STABILITY, CLARITY, TO CLARIFY THE INTENT AND DEFINES BOUNDARIES THAT PROMOTES LONG TERM STRATEGIC PLANNING AS WELL AS MANAGES THE RISKS AS WELL AS IT FITS THE NATIONAL STANDARD FOR BEST PRACTICES. AND SO ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LISTED HERE ARE DISCUSSED IN DETAIL ON THE GFOA WEBSITE. AND IT'S THERE AND IT'S THEIR MODEL WE'RE FOLLOWING THEIR BEST PRACTICES IS THE ASSOCIATION THAT THE CITY ALIGNS WITH WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDARDS. SO WE HAVE THE QUESTION COMES UP IS WHY NOW? WELL, IT WAS NOT A FINDING. WE'RE GOING INTO. WE'RE HALFWAY THROUGH OUR ERP INTEGRATION AND HAVING THE POLICIES TO ALIGN WITH THE PROCEDURES BECOMES IMPORTANT. WE ALSO HAVE A CULTURAL SHIFT. WHEN I STARTED, POLICIES WERE ATTRIBUTED VERBALLY. THERE WAS NO WRITTEN STANDARD FOR POLICIES. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UNDER MAYOR CASPER, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DOCUMENT EVERYTHING AND PUT EVERYTHING INTO WRITTEN POLICIES. FINANCE IS A LITTLE BIT BEHIND BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY CATCH UP FROM WHAT WAS WORKING UNDER PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS DOESN'T WORK IN TODAY'S GOVERNMENT ENVIRONMENT. AND SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET UP TO UP TO SPEED ON WHERE WE SHOULD BE. AND SO IT'S CAUSED NOT ONLY A CULTURAL SHIFT, BUT RESETTING [00:45:02] PRIORITIES OF WHAT WE SHOULD WORK ON FIRST. HAVING TO AUDIT. IT'S KIND OF PUT THIS FOREFRONT OF TRYING TO GET THIS DONE. SO WHAT ARE WE DONE? WE'VE, AS PAM HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE CONSULTED WITH BAILEY. SO OFTENTIMES WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES, I ALWAYS SAY IT'S A QUESTION OF PRIORITIES, NOT A QUESTION OF TIME. AND SINCE TIME IS IMPORTANT, WE HAD TO MAKE THIS A MORE OF A PRIORITY. WE HAD TO OUTSOURCE IT AND TO GET THEM TO, TO TO WRITE IT SO THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON INTEGRATIONS AND OTHER FINANCIAL POLICIES THAT NEED TO BE REDONE. AND SO PARTNERING WITH EBAY BECAME AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET THOSE POLICIES DONE. AND TO GET BE ABLE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL APPROVE THOSE OR, OR OVERALL GOAL IS TO CREATE A CODIFICATION OF POLICIES SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WOULD FIND IN GOVERNMENTAL COUNTY. AND SO WE WILL HAVE 24 POLICIES THAT ARE ALL NUMERICALLY NUMBERED AND, AND, AND ORGANIZED INTO ONE CENTRAL LOCATION AND DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE REFERENCED. AND THEN WE CAN JUST LIKE OTHER POLICIES THAT ARE COMING FORWARD FROM OTHER DIRECTORS, WE CAN WE BECAUSE THEY'RE NUMBERED AND CODIFIED, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE SECTIONS AS NEEDED, NOT THE WHOLE THE WHOLE DOCUMENT. AND IF I COULD ADD, MARK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FIND WITH OUR GRANT APPLICATIONS, SOME OF THE AGENCIES ACTUALLY ASK FOR THIS POLICY AS PART OF THE MIDDLE OF A GRANT APPLICATION. SO IT REALLY MAKES US A WIN WIN TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS, AS WELL AS LEVERAGING THE BAILEY TEAM, THE GOVERNMENTAL UNIT TEAM THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER BECAUSE THEY'VE WORKED WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. AND SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE TYPES OF OF CONTENT THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THESE TYPES OF POLICIES. I DON'T WANT TO BE NEGATIVE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT NOT HAVING THE POLICIES OVER THE YEARS, AS UNDER PAM'S LEADERSHIP AND THEN MARK'S LEADERSHIP IN IN ADDITION, HAS RESULTED IN THE DEPARTMENT WANTING TO START TO REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN STANDARDS. AND AS THEY'VE DONE THAT, OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE SAID, YOU'RE A PEER, YOU'RE NOT A BOSS, YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO. AND WE'VE HAD SOMETIMES INTERDEPARTMENTAL CHAFING BECAUSE MUNICIPAL SERVICES DARED TO DICTATE THE STANDARD OR THE TERMS OF A FINANCIAL TRANSACTION OR PRACTICE. AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THE FINDING THAT THERE WAS THE THE KICK IN THE PANTS THAT ALLOWED EVERYBODY TO, WELL, ALLOWED MUNICIPAL SERVICES TO SAY, OKAY, NO, SEE, NOW WE NOW WE CAN REALLY DO THIS AND WE'VE GOT THE CLOUT. IT TOOK A WHILE. I HAD TO SORT OF STAND FIRM WITH MUNICIPAL SERVICES A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN WE HAD SOME DEPARTMENTS WHO WERE NOT ACCEPTING THESE HIGHER STANDARDS THAT THAT PAM AND MARK WERE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT. SO THIS IS VERY EXCITING TO ME, AND I HOPE I DIDN'T MISCHARACTERIZE THAT. NO, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. I MEAN, AT FIRST WE WERE FIXING PROCESSES AND THEY CAME TO A POINT. WE HAD TO FIX POLICY, SO THAT IS TO WRITE IT AND GET IT APPROVED. YEAH. AND SO WE'VE TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF BABY STEPS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE MATRIX THAT WE HAD FOR PURCHASING THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ISSUED TO ALL THE ADMINISTRATIVE DEPARTMENTS. IT JUST WAS A REMINDER OF IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT DOING THIS, THIS IS WHAT THE STATE STATUTE SAYS, AND THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT TO SEE WHEN YOU SEND IT OVER TO OUR PURCHASING. FOR THE ISSUE OF A PO OR APPROVAL OF A REQUISITION. SO WE'VE KIND OF HAD A FEW THINGS IN PLACE FOR A WHILE, BUT THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO MEMORIALIZE WHAT THE PROCESS SHOULD BE, AS WELL AS PROVIDE DESK REFERENCE MANUALS FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE THAT MIGHT BE OPENING A REQUISITION OR OR CLOSING ON A PO AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO IT REALLY DOES STREAMLINE THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. THANKS, PAM. OKAY, SO WHAT'S IN PROGRESS. THIS IS NUMBER ONE. THIS IS THE PROCUREMENT POLICY. THIS GOES ALONG WITH THE THE AUDIT FINDING BECAUSE IT DIDN'T REFERENCE THE FEDERAL PURCHASING STANDARDS OR A LIST AMOUNT IN OUR POLICY. SO WE HAD TO ADAPT THEM TO INCLUDE ALL THE FEDERAL REGULATION AND STATE STATUTES TO GO ALONG WITH ANY FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WERE SPENDING. AND SO THIS DOCUMENT FULFILLS THAT RESPONSIBILITY. CIRCLE BACK REAL QUICK, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE OF ALL THE GOVERNMENTS THAT DO WORK FOR ARE ABLE TO GIVE US THE BEST PRACTICES OF WHAT OTHER POLICIES ARE WRITTEN, HAVE SAID, NOT ONLY WITHIN THE STATE OF IDAHO, BUT WITHIN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST, AND ALSO OVERALL, THE THE WHOLE COUNTRY. AND SO WE GET A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE, THEM COMING TO THE TABLE. AND WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT IS WHAT'S THE MOST COMMON LANGUAGE OR WORDING? AND THAT'S WHAT THEY PROVIDE US. AND THEN [00:50:04] WE MATCH THAT WITH OUR PROCESSES AND WORK WITH ISSUES. BUT PURCHASING FOR PROCUREMENT IS NUMBER ONE. THAT'S ON THE TABLE TO FIT THAT REQUIREMENT WITHIN LEGAL REVIEW OR ABOUT TO BE IN LEGAL REVIEW, IS CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND INVESTMENT POLICIES IN THE LEGAL TEAM. WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THE GRANT PIECE HERE. THE DRAFT POLICY I MADE IN THE LAST WEEKS THIS MORNING SO I CAN GET THAT TO THEM. AND THEN WHAT'S IN DRAFTING THAT? WE STARTED TO GET CORRESPONDENCE BACK BY BAILEY IS THE CASH HANDLING, TRAVEL EXPENSES AND P-CARD. EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW IS ON THE FEDERAL FUNDING LEVEL. SO THEY GAVE US, WHEN WE CONTRACTED WITH THEM, WITH ALL THE 24 POLICIES, WE SAID WE WANT TO COVER THE FEDERAL ONES FIRST SO THAT WE ARE ENSURED THAT WE MEET ALL OUR GRANT COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR FOCUS. AND SO EACH WE WILL DO THESE IN CORRESPONDENCE WITH GETTING THOSE DONE. ANY QUESTIONS ON WHY WE CHOSE THE CURRENT POLICIES THAT WE'RE USING. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO PROCUREMENT POLICY. AND THEN YOU MIGHT PUT THAT ONE UP. OH THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO RUN THE MOUSE OR JUST TELL YOU TO SCROLL DOWN. YEAH I CAN DO THAT. SORRY. BUT THE SWITCHING ON OKAY OKAY. SO THE FIRST PART HERE'S THE PURPOSE. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE BOUNDARIES AND CONSISTENCY AND STABILITY WITHIN THE PURCHASING AREA. THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT OF HAVING THE POLICY IS SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS. WE WANT TO GIVE THE EACH CITY EMPLOYEE INVOLVED IN PURCHASING THE PLAYING FIELD THAT THEY CAN OPERATE IN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THAT THIS IS HERE. SO THIS IS REALLY INTERNAL TO ALL THE CITY STAFF. IT'S EVERYONE. THERE'S NO ONE THAT OPERATES OUTSIDE OF THE POLICY. OKAY. THE OTHER THING IS IS THAT WE WROTE THIS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS. SO AT ANY POINT THOSE LAWS CHANGE. OUR GOAL IS TO FIX THEM ON OUR POLICY. HOWEVER, UNTIL THAT'S DONE, THE FEDERAL LAWS OF STATE LAWS WILL SUPERSEDE ANY CITY POLICY. AND THAT MAKES SENSE AS THE LAWS CHANGE. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YEAH, I FIND THAT INTERESTING. ACROSS OUR ORDINANCES AND ACROSS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS JUST KIND OF THIS ORDEAL, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THE ABC AND I LIKE WE CAN'T JUST REFER TO THEM AND SAY THOSE ARE OUR POLICIES. RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S THAT WOULD MAKE IT CONSISTENT ALL THE TIME EVERY MONTH GOING FORWARD. BUT YEAH, SPEAK TO WHY WE ALL JUST DO THAT. WELL, IF I, IF I COULD ADD THAT BACK, GOING BACK TO GRANTS, WHEN DEPARTMENTS SUBMIT GRANTS, IT'S REALLY HELPFUL FOR THEM TO HAVE THIS POLICY IN PLACE SO THEY CAN GO OUT AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE STATUTES, WHETHER THEY'RE IDAHO STATUTES OR FEDERAL, AS MARK HAD MENTIONED. IT GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TOOLS, IF YOU WILL, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE APPLICATION WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR A GRANT. YEAH. YEAH, LET'S DO IT. AND DO WE STATE THAT IN THE, THE, THE FEDERAL THE CURRENT FEDERAL STANDARDS WILL SUPERSEDE. SO WE'LL GET INTO THE FEDERAL PART TOWARDS THE END. BUT AND AND ANY PLACE THAT WE REFERENCE THE STATE LAW, WE TRY TO PUT THE CODE SECTION IN THERE SO THAT IT CAN BE REVIEWED. SO IF YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PARAGRAPH, YOU CAN SEE THE CFR PART 200, WHICH IS. THE STATE STATUTES WITH THAT. AND WE'LL GET TO THE FEDERAL STUFF DOWN BELOW. THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION JUST FOR THE FEDERAL PURCHASING SECTION, WHICH IS THE UNIFORM GUIDANCE. REAL QUICK. THERE ARE 2.1 THIS THIS JUST CLEARLY ARTICULATES ONE OF THE MORE COMMON QUESTIONS WE GET. AND THAT IS A BUDGET IS NOT AUTHORITY TO SPEND. IT'S JUST THE BUDGET. AND SO WE HEAR QUITE OFTEN LIKE, WELL I HAD THIS IN MY BUDGET. THEREFORE I HAD TO BUY IT. NO, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. YOU STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PURCHASING PROCESS. AND SO THERE ARE SOME EXPLICIT CONTRACTS THAT ARE EXPLICITLY IDENTIFIED IN THE BUDGET. AND A LOT OF THOSE WE TRY TO DO ARE THINGS THAT ARE EITHER IN PROCESS OR JUST INTUITIVELY, THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO A PURCHASE ORDER FOR. AND THAT'S LIKE UTILITY BILLS THAT WE PAID TO OURSELVES AND TO LIKE FOR OUR GAS BILL, FOR NATURAL GAS OR FOR TELEPHONE BILL. THOSE ARE THOSE ARE JUST NATURALLY STATED AND REOCCURRING BECAUSE THEIR CELL PHONES, BOTH THEIR PHONES FEES THAT DO GO ALONG [00:55:05] WITH THAT SERVICE BEING PROVIDED. SO THOSE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THOSE MUST GO THROUGH THE PURCHASING PROCESS. AND 2.2, WE WERE REFERENCING DELEGATED AUTHORITY. IN THE PAST, THERE HASN'T BEEN A RESOLUTION FOR DELEGATED AUTHORITY. WE ADDRESS THAT IN THIS POLICY, AS WELL AS AT WHAT POINT IT HAS TO COME TO COUNCIL. THE NEW STATE LAW IS 100,000. SO ANYTHING COMING TO COUNCIL WILL START AT 100,000. WE'LL GET INTO DELEGATED AUTHORITY HERE IN A FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU. THE 2.3 SECTION IS YOUR ETHICS SECTION. WE TALKED ABOUT MAINTAINING HIGH ETHICAL STANDARDS. WE TALKED ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. AND SO THOSE ARE BOTH OUTLINED IN THERE. EVEN THOUGH WE REFERENCE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST IN THE PURCHASING POLICY, WE STILL FEEL A NEED TO HAVE IT AS A SEPARATE POLICY. AND THAT WILL BE COMING AFTER LEGAL REVIEW. THERE'S JUST A MUCH THERE'S TOO MUCH TO COVER IN JUST A SUBSECTION, A PERSON TO ADDRESS ALL THE ISSUES RELATED TO CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO MAINTAIN THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ETHICAL STANDARDS. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE GET INTO SECTION THREE WHICH COVERS THE PROCEDURES. HERE WE OUTLINE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PURCHASING. SO YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTIONS. YOU HAVE DESIGN STUFF PROFESSIONALS. YOU HAVE GOODS, YOU HAVE PERSONAL SERVICES AND YOU HAVE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE OUTLINED THESE BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT RULES. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE PURCHASING THAT WE DO FALLS WITHIN ONE OF THESE CATEGORIES. AND WITH EACH OF THESE AREAS THAT ARE LISTED. NONE OF THE NONE OF THE PURCHASING METHODS CAN BE WAIVED. THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE TYPES OF PERSONAL RECORDS BASED ON WHAT'S BEING OR WHAT STATE WE'RE FOLLOWING, WHETHER IT'S GOODS OR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO LET'S GO DOWN TO 3.21. SO HERE IS KIND OF THE HERE'S SMALL PURCHASING. AND SMALL PURCHASING IS ANYTHING UNDER 100,000. THE DEPARTMENT OR MAYOR CAN AUTHORIZE THOSE. WE'LL GET INTO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DIRECTOR'S INVOLVED VERSUS THE MAYOR. AND WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT SECTION THAT WE HAVE A CHANGING OF THE GUARD SO THAT THOSE THINGS MIGHT CHANGE SLIGHTLY. BUT IT GAVE OUR BEST EFFORT TO PUT THAT FORWARD. UNDER THE SMALL PURCHASES SUBSECTION, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THRESHOLDS THAT ARE REQUIRED THERE. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FOR FEDERAL FUNDING, ANYTHING OVER 10,000 MUST HAVE A MAYOR APPROVAL FOR SMALL GOODS FOR SMALL PURCHASES. SO THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT TO NOTE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS POLICY THAT ORDERS PUT DOWN IS WE HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN A CITY PURCHASE WITH NO FEDERAL FUNDING AND A FEDERAL FUNDING PURCHASE, AND THE DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS THAT APPLY. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT UNDER THIS FUNDING THAT PURSUANT TO IDAHO IDAHO STATE CODE SECTIONS, ANY PERSONAL SERVICE THAT IS. ENTERED INTO THAT'S OVER 30,000 MUST BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THE STATE TO CLARIFY IF THAT'S STILL THEIR INTENTION. BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT IS STILL A LITTLE OFF. IN SECTION 3.22. THAT'S YOUR SEMI-FORMAL COMPETITIVE PURCHASING. IT'S NOT QUITE FORMAL. IT'S THE IN BETWEEN. SO. NOT AS LESS RESTRICTIVE AS SMALL PURCHASES BUT NOT AS RESTRICTIVE AS FORMAL. IT'S KIND OF THAT MIDDLE GROUND. A LOT OF TIMES WE GET QUOTES OR WE GET SEMI BIDS THAT WE CAN USE OFF TO MAKE THOSE PURCHASES. THOSE ALSO HAVE A STANDARD ONE FEDERAL ONE NONFEDERAL ONE. SO THOSE THOSE LEVELS ARE PRESENTED THERE. IN ALL CASES, ANYTHING OVER 100,000 MUST BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS ON SEMI-FORMAL? YEAH. THERE WAS ONE THING THAT WAS WHY IS IT ONLY UP TO TWO? I MEAN, SO SO SO YOU CANNOT DO A SEMI-FORMAL CONTRACT OR BIDDING [01:00:05] PROCESS FOR ANYTHING OVER 250. THAT BECOMES A FORMAL BIDDING PROCESS. SO INFORMAL IS JUST CONSIDERED QUOTES. YOU CAN GO UP TO $250,000 JUST BY GETTING THREE QUOTES. SO YOU HAD THAT FIRST ONE WHICH WE HAD, WHICH WAS THE SMALL. YES, EVERYTHING UNDER 100,000. AND NOW WE'RE AT 100,000 TO 2.4999. THAT JUST IS THE INFORMAL. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE FORMAL SALE COMPETITIVE? YEAH. I JUST DIDN'T REALIZE IT GOTTEN A $250. YEAH. IF YOU A PUBLIC WORKS ACTUALLY IS NOW IN LINE WITH YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER PUBLIC WORKS BEING DIFFERENT AMOUNTS. THEY'RE ALL IN LINE NOW. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S TRUE FOR US. SO IT'S ACROSS THE BOARD. AND THEN SOME OF THE STATE LAWS HAVE CHANGED IN THIS RECENTLY RECENTLY THAT ALLOWS US TO PUT THESE TOGETHER OKAY. OKAY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO THE FORMAL. THIS IS YOUR STANDARD PRACTICE. YEAH. IT'S ANYTHING THAT'S OVER 250,000 OR MORE WITH THE THE ONLY VARIANCE IS THAT DESIGN PROFESSIONALS DO HAVE TO HAVE AN APPROVAL THAT'S LOWER FIVE 50,000 TO 100,000 THAT CAN BE APPROVED BY THE MAYOR BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR THREE TIERS OF PURCHASING AS FAR AS PROCESS BY WHICH CITY DEPARTMENTS WILL GO THROUGH. THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE VARIATIONS OF ALTERNATIVES AND EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE DISCUSSED IN 3.24. AND SO THERE'S VARIATIONS BETWEEN PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE HAVE 3.242 SAYS REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THIS ONE THE RFP ARE SOMETHING WE DO. PERIODICALLY, BUT THIS ONE IS REFERENCING WHERE YOU DON'T TAKE THE LOWEST BID. IT'S OTHER FORM OF QUALIFICATION THAT ALLOWS YOU TO SELECT DIFFERENT, AND THAT HAS TO BE DONE ON THE FRONT END. SO THERE'S THREE CRITERIA THERE WHERE IT'S EITHER FIXED SPECIFICATIONS, FIXED PROBLEM OR PRICE IS NOT THE ONLY DETERMINING FACTOR. THOSE THAT'S ONE TYPE OF RFP. TIM AND I ARE ALSO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WORD, OR THAT WE NEED TO GO TO A DIFFERENT TITLE, BUT JUST BE CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE. SO SOMETIMES, DON'T WE CALL THAT AN RFQ? RFQ IS 3.2 OR 3 OKAY. THAT'S THE QUALIFICATIONS BASED ON SELECTIONS. AND SO WE DO HAVE THAT ONE. THIS ONE'S A MIX BETWEEN THE TWO OKAY. THIS ONE. THE QUALIFICATIONS. IT'S PURELY ON QUALIFICATIONS. NO WEIGHT TO PRICE AT ALL. THE RFP DOES HAVE WEIGHT IF WE CHOOSE TO ALONG WITH ALL THE QUALIFICATION STATEMENTS. SO IF WE WENT WITH A QUALIFICATION PHASE, ONE THING YOU'LL NOTICE IS THAT WE KIND OF DO USE TERMS THAT MAYBE DON'T FIT THIS. THIS IS DEFINING TERMS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO INSTEAD OF USING RFP WILL MOST LIKELY BE MOVING TO INVITATION TO BID FOR THOSE INFORMAL KIND OF THINGS. THIS RFP DOES ALLOW US TO USE PRICING AND QUALIFICATIONS AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR AWARDING. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU LIKE THREE TIERS. YOU HAVE YOUR LOW PRICE OR LOW BID, THEN YOU HAVE LOW BID PLUS QUALIFICATION AND THEN YOU HAVE QUALIFICATION ONLY. THAT'S KIND OF THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIDDING PROCESS. WE ALSO HAVE. EMERGENCY PURCHASES AND URGENT PURCHASES AS ALSO A QUALIFIED EXCEPTION OR DECLARED EMERGENCY REQUIRES THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL TO DECLARE EMERGENCY A URGENT RESPONSE PURCHASE TO SOMETHING LIKE WHERE A UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IS BROKEN AND THERE IS A AN URGENT NEED TO REPAIR IT, WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY OR OR OR SOME OTHER REASON LIKE A TRANSFORMER GET RUN OVER BY A CAR. YEAH. LIKE THAT. RIGHT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OUT AND DO A COMPETITIVE BID THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE RIGHT AWAY. BUT IN BOTH CASES, THERE IS A WRITTEN NEED TO BE APPROVED BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT CONFIRMING IT, CONFIRMING PO STATUS. OKAY, MAYOR, WILL WE HAVE TIME TO GO OVER NOW, THE TIME TO ASK THE QUESTIONS LIKE IS THIS YEAH, ASK AWAY. LIKE THIS. SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT RFP ONE STILL THAT MIDDLE ONE BECAUSE HOW WOULD WE WILL I MEAN, NOW [01:05:04] YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THE LOWEST MOST MOLLIFIED. LIKE IF IF YOU SEND OUT AN RFP, RIGHT? I MEAN, IF YOU SPIT IT OUT, IT'S THE LOWEST. BUT THEY HAVE TO BE CONFIDENT, QUALIFIED. I MEAN, YOU CAN GET RID OF SOMEBODY IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE. THAT'S PART OF THAT QUALIFICATION. WHAT WE DO THAT IS THAT IF THEY WERE THE LOWEST BID, WE KNOW THAT THEY WEREN'T. YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T. BUT IF YOU DIDN'T SEND IT OUT AS THIS KIND OF AN RFP, THEN YOU CAN'T LOOK AT THERE. SO WE WOULD ONLY USE THIS ONE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU WOULD ONLY RIGHT NOW IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE WOULD EVER HAVE THOSE TWO, THOSE THREE DIFFERENT ONES. IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE WANT TO HAVE QUALIFICATIONS AND PRICING, WELL, LET'S GIVE AN EXAMPLE. IF YOU'RE BUYING A GOOD AND THAT GOOD IS VALUES OVER 250,000, YOU DON'T NEED A QUALIFICATION NECESSARILY. IT'S JUST THE LOWEST PRICE FOR THE GOOD. WHEN YOU GIVE IT A SERVICES. THAT'S WHERE THIS ONE PROBABLY WOULD COME IN IN THE CONTRACT. YES. YEAH. SO THERE IS A NEED FOR ALL KINDS. WE'RE JUST QUANTIFYING THAT. WHEN YOU SUBMIT THE WHEN WE GET READY TO DRAFT A BID AND SUBMIT IT, WE MAKE SURE WE LIST THE RIGHT ONE. WE'RE, WE'RE OPERATING UNDER. AND GENERALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT EACH PROPOSAL WILL BE EVALUATED ON AS WELL AS. AND THIS IS A KEY AS WELL AS AN EVALUATION TEAM, BECAUSE THAT WAY YOU GET INPUT FROM MORE THAN MORE THAN ONE PERSON IS AN EVALUATION TEAM RECOMMENDATION. AND TIM, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? NO, I THINK THAT THAT ADDED GREAT. AND I THINK YOUR STATEMENT OF QUALIFIED RESPONDENT, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS ALWAYS ADDED IN ON THAT. SO BECAUSE WE GET IN TROUBLE. SO I MEAN NOT WE I DON'T THINK THE CITY EVER HAS. BUT PEOPLE GET IN TROUBLE WHEN THEY TRY AND DISQUALIFY SOMEONE FOR THE BID BECAUSE OF QUALITY. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE REALLY JUST PUTTING THESE OUT THERE SO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING. LIKE MARK SAID, IF WE'RE TRYING TO BUY ROAD SALT, SURE, GET OUT THERE BY ROAD SALT, SALT. BUT IF IT IS A CONSTRUCTION OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT, OKAY. IDENTIFY WHICH KIND OF RFP YOU'RE GOING AND IT'LL BE IN THE BID DOCUMENT WHEN IT GOES OUT SO THAT THE BIDDER KNOWS WHICH ONE. YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING OKAY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET BETTER AT WRITING OUR FEES BECAUSE OF THIS POLICY. AND YOU USE IT WHEN PRICE MATTERS. SO AN RFQ WHEN QUALIFICATIONS MATTER. BUT THERE'S ALSO THE QBS. AND SO ARE YOU GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE IN WHEN THOSE TWO ARE USED OR IS QBS LESS LIKELY? THAT IS, QUALIFICATIONS ONLY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PRICE, IT IS PURELY QUALIFICATIONS. WE CANNOT TAKE PRICE INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THE SELECTION OF THAT. IT ALSO HAS A TWO PHASED APPROACH WHICH IN THAT FIRST PHASE WE DO THE QUALIFICATION CYCLE PHASE. IF THERE'S ONLY ONE, THAT'S WHO WE'RE GOING WITH AND THERE IS MULTIPLE QUALIFIED, THAT'S WHEN THE PRICE WILL COME INTO PLAY. AND THAT PHASE TWO. BUT IF ONLY ONE IS QUALIFIED. YEAH. DON'T YOU DON'T YOU SELECT BASED ON THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND THEN YOU NEGOTIATE THE PRICE. AND THEN IF THEY DON'T WORK OUT THEN YOU GO TO NUMBER TWO. SO IT ALL STARTS WITH QUALIFICATIONS. AND YOU GET A LIST OF WHO'S QUALIFIED. THEN YOU GO TO PRICE OKAY. AND SOMETIMES THESE HELP IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A LIST TO USE LIKE ENGINEERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT DOES ALLOW FOR BASICALLY A SHORT LIST IF YOU WILL, OF QUALIFIED VENDORS TO USE FOR SPECIFIC THINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THANK YOU MAYOR. YEAH THAT'S AMAZING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS THIS CLEARED UP I KIND OF LIKE THE MATRIX P WHICH IS JUST PRICE. THEN YOU HAVE A PK WHICH IS PRICE AND QUALIFICATIONS. AND YOU JUST HAVE TO JUST KEEP JUST QUALIFICATIONS OKAY. SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO 3.2.45. SORRY. THANKS FOR NAVIGATING. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IN THIS ONE IS THAT A LACK OF PLANNING DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AN URGENT PURCHASE, AND WHICH WE PUT THAT IN WRITING. IT'S GOT TO BE AN EMERGENT IN NATURE TO QUALIFY FOR THIS. AND WHAT THIS ALLOWS UNDER A DECLARED EMERGENCY OR AN URGENT RESPONSE PURCHASE, IT ALLOWS THEM TO GO STRAIGHT TO A CONFIRMING PO WITH A WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM THE MAYOR. AND SO. THAT MEANS THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY KIND OF BIDDING, BECAUSE THE EMERGENT NATURE. OKAY THEN FROM LIKE 3.46 ON TO LIKE 3.48, THAT'S THOSE ARE ALL KIND OF JUST EXCUSE ME. HOLD ON A SECOND. GO AHEAD, COUNCILOR FRANCIS. I WONDERED WHO MARK, WHO DECIDES WHETHER IT WAS LACK OF PLANNING. SO IT ULTIMATELY [01:10:05] COMES DOWN TO THE MAYOR. OBVIOUSLY, MUNICIPAL SERVICES DIRECTOR AND ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR WILL GIVE US OUR OPINION ON WHETHER WHAT QUALIFIES. BUT ULTIMATELY THE MAYOR WILL WILL DECIDE. AND, COUNCILOR FRANCIS, WE SEE THIS MORE AS LIKE A RECOMMENDATION. SO A DEPARTMENT COMES AND SAYS, I HAVE AN URGENT PURCHASE. YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT THE TIMELINE. WE'LL WE'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW IT, MAKE A DETERMINATION. SO WE COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DIGITAL SERVICES. WELL, I THINK IT COMES FROM THE DIRECTOR WHO'S ASKING FOR THE URGENT CIRCUMSTANCE. OKAY, OKAY. BUT THEN THE MAYOR'S INPUT. YEAH, IT COMES FROM MUNICIPAL SERVICES. I WOULD THINK THAT A MAYOR THAT GOES OUT ON THE LIMB ALL THE TIME IS ONE THAT'S NOT BEING VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE EXPERTISE IN MUNICIPAL SERVICES. AND SO I WOULD I WOULD THINK THAT A MAYOR USING THIS POLICY WOULD WANT VERY MUCH TO BE WORKING IN TANDEM WITH MUNICIPAL SERVICE RECOMMENDATIONS. AND MAYOR, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT THAT YOU POINTED OUT, BECAUSE IF WE JUST HAVE A DEPARTMENT GOING DIRECTLY TO THE MAYOR, THAT'S PROBLEMATIC FOR OUR PURCHASING TEAM BECAUSE REQUISITIONS WILL BE HELD UP UNTIL THE DEPARTMENT CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE STAFF, THE PURCHASING STAFF, TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT REQUISITION ON TO A PO OR OR ISSUE A CONFIRMING PO, AS MARK MENTIONED EARLIER. SO THE PROCESS IS IT'S A COORDINATED EFFORT. YEAH. AND THE REASON I ASKED THE QUESTION IS WE STARTED WITH THE IDEA, LET'S GET IT DONE. RIGHT. SO MY VERBAL UNDERSTANDING AND AND DO WE NEED TO BELIEVE THAT THERE. STILL SO EVERYTHING FOR BOTH THE DECLARED EMERGENCY AND THE URGENT RESPONSE REQUIRES WRITTEN NOTICE. SO IT'S ALREADY IS THIS ALL WORKED INTO THE WORKFLOWS FOR WORKDAY. IT IS. SO THIS WILL AUTOMATE. IT WILL GO TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IN PDF. I MEAN IN THE SYSTEM FOR APPROVAL. AND THEN THAT WILL THAT WILL BE NICE. AND THE IMPORTANCE OF IT BEING IN WRITING IS WHEN IT IS SELECTED FOR AUDIT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN AUDIT TRAIL. WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT WE FOLLOWED OUR OWN POLICY. YEAH. AND THAT'S THE ROLE TO OF SOMEONE CHECKING THROUGH WHAT DOCUMENTS ARE IN THE WORKFLOW AND AUTOMATIONS AND SOMEONE CHECKING SOMEONE WHO APPROVES ON A RANDOM BASIS. IT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOVING ON. COVERING COOPERATIVE PURCHASES, WHICH IS USING SOMEONE ELSE'S. BIDDING, FORMAL BIDDING. WE OUTLINE WHAT THE STATE FOLLOWING STATE PURCHASE. WE OUTLINE HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN NO BIDS WERE RECEIVED. AND THEN WE ALSO GET INTO SOLE SOURCE PURCHASING. THE ONE THING THAT UNDER 3.249, IT DOES SAY IN THERE THAT LEGAL HAS TO SIGN OFF ON ANY SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE, JUST SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE. COMPLIANT IN LEGAL STANDARDS. AND THAT'S ON AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THAT PAGE, IT SAYS ANY PURCHASE OVER 50,000 OR MORE REQUIRES DISCUSSION WITH LEGAL DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO PROCEEDING. MUST SIGN OFF, NOT JUST THE DISCUSSION. AND THE GOOD NEWS IS WE ARE ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THIS PROCESS. WE DID HAVE AN ITEM ON LAST THURSDAY'S AGENDA THAT FOLLOWED THIS PROCESS. EXACTLY. SO OUTSIDE OF THE PURCHASING, USING THE COMPETITIVE PURCHASING STANDARDS ON 3.24 TEN LISTS, ALL THE ONES THAT YOU'RE YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW ON THE COMPETITIVE PURCHASING. AND THIS IS ALL LISTED UNDER THE IDAHO STATE CODE SECTION. THE ITEMS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW PURCHASING POLICIES IS. SO WE WILL CREATE POS THAT MAYBE WILL MIGHT BE HIGH VALUE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A COUNCIL APPROVAL. AND YOU CAN SEE ON THERE THE MOST COMMON ONE THAT WE FALL INTO IS INSURANCE AND PUBLIC UTILITIES. AND THAT JUST MEANS PAYING BILLS. YEP. JUST MEANS PAYING THE BILLS. YES. ALL RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT 3.3. YEAH, I'M JUST PERUSING VERY QUICKLY. DOS ARE THEY INCLUDED SOMEWHERE IN HERE? DOS TYPICALLY WOULD FALL UNDER [01:15:03] SMALL SMALL GOODS. PRETTY SMALL. AND THEY'RE PRETTY SMALL. EVEN THE DOS DON'T GET THAT EXPENSIVE. SO. THE ONLY ONLY ONE THAT WAS CLOSE, IN MY OPINION WOULD BE DON'T DO ANY MORE. AND THAT WAS PRETTY WHAT WAS ON CALL. ON CALL IS SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED OVER AT THE FRONTIER CENTER, WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO FIND WE HAD THREE VENDORS THAT COULD COME IN AND HELP US WITH THE FLOOD MITIGATION. AND SO THAT'S BASICALLY VENDORS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN CALL IF WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY TYPE OF SITUATION. BASICALLY, AN ON CALL MEANS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN PRE-APPROVED, BUT THE VALUE OF WHAT WE NEED FOR IT HAS NOT. IT'S KIND OF THIS A PREFERRED. PREFERRED, I DON'T KNOW. BUT YEAH, I THINK OKAY. SO GETTING INTO 3.3, THIS IS THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF METHODS THAT THAT WE WILL USE. FIELD POS. ARE THOSE SMALL PURCHASES LESS THAN A THOUSAND P CARDS IS ARE GO TO THAT. WE TRY TO USE HEAVILY FOR THE SMALL SMALL PURCHASES FOR GOODS. AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR TRADITIONAL PO. YOU HAVE YOUR CONFIRMING PO, YOU BLANKET PO. I WILL SAY THAT ONE OF THE. BIGGEST CHANGES THAT WILL BE A CULTURAL SHIFT WILL BE THE BLANKET PO. IN THE PAST. WE HAVE GRANTED THOSE MORE BASED ON STORE THAN A TRUE BLANKET. AND HAVING DISCUSSED THIS WITH BAILEY EXTENSIVELY IN OUR LEGAL TEAM, WE FEEL GOING FORWARD THAT TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE LAW SAYS IF THEY WOULD LIKE A BLANKET ORDER OVER 100,000, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BID THOSE. CURRENTLY, WE DO NOT DO THAT. AND SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET THAT MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE OUR INTENTIONS GOING FORWARD. WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE PROCESS FOR CLOSING PURCHASE ORDERS, ESPECIALLY BLANKET, IF YOU'RE GOING FOR A YEAR? SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CLOSING APPEAL. YEAH. OR APPROVING ONES THAT GO OVER 10%. YOU KNOW THOSE. SO THE CHANGE ORDERS WILL BE HERE IN JUST A SECOND. CLOSING PO IS NOT NECESSARILY A POLICY ISSUE MORE THAN A PROCEDURE. SO IT'S NOT REALLY DISCUSSED HERE. WE IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS A STANDARD PRACTICE THAT YOU GO THROUGH MONTHLY AND KIND OF SEE WHAT POS ARE STILL OPEN, WHICH ONES AREN'T. YEAH. PURCHASE TEAM IS PRETTY GOOD AT WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS. LET THEM KNOW WHICH ONES ARE THERE AND THE SYSTEM WILL BE REALLY GOOD TO CORRECT. BASED ON THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL DISCUSSION WITH PUBLIC WORKS, WE DID ADD THAT QUANTITY VARIANCE PURCHASE ORDER. I WILL SAY THERE IS ONE TYPO HERE THAT WE WILL CHANGE. THIS WORD SHOULD NOT BE AMOUNT, IT SHOULD BE QUANTITY. SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. IT'S THE QUANTITY. THAT IS WHY IT'S CALLED THE QUANTITY VARIANCE. IT'S BASED ON THE QUANTITY. ALSO LICENSE THE CHANGE ORDER. THAT WON'T COME BACK TO COUNCIL UNLESS IT EXCEEDS 25%. OKAY. THE 3.4 IS KIND OF LIKE OUR CAPITAL AREA. WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF POS. WE TALK ABOUT INSURANCE THAT WE REQUIRE. INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO DO SERVICE FACILITY REQUIRE TO CARRY CERTAIN TYPES OF INSURANCE, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR LIABILITY FOR THE WHAT THEY'RE OFFERING OR IF THEY'RE ON SITE WORKERS COMP. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WE DISCUSSED THERE. THEN WE GET INTO THE THE CHANGE ORDER PART OF THE POLICY, WHICH IS THREE POINT. WHAT ABOUT FAKING? DAVIS DAVIS-BACON DOES NOT APPLY HERE BECAUSE IT'S WAGES. SO BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY THAT'S ONLY WHEN THE CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO. YEAH. NOW THAT WOULD BE IN OUR GRANTS POLICY, WHICH IS OKAY. SO HERE'S OUR CHANGE ORDER. THIS IS. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW THE AS FAR AS OUR CHANGE RATE POLICIES ON PREVIOUS RESOLUTIONS, THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS THIS MIDDLE COLUMN HERE. THIS WOULD BE THE DEPARTMENT AUTHORITY BEFORE IT GOES TO THE MAYOR. AND PREVIOUS VARIATIONS THAT MAYOR CASPER HAD DONE. WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT LEVELS. PREVIOUSLY HAD TALKED TO COUNCIL AND MAYOR CASPER AND SOME OF OUR BUDGET TO ACTUAL MEETINGS, HAD NOT SIT DOWN WITH HER TO FINALIZE THIS PORTION OF IT, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT [01:20:01] THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE CARD THAT WE JUST PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD HERE. WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DIRECTOR AND THE COUNCIL. WE DO FIND THAT WHEN THE DIRECTOR HAS THE SAME LEVEL AS THE MAYOR, AS A LOT OF TIMES THE MAYOR IS UNAWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. AND SO WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A TIER DIRECTOR, MAYOR, COUNCIL. AND THAT'S HOW WE THAT'S HOW WE SET THIS. WE HAD A COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN, I THINK, ON THAT, WHEN WE HAD THAT VERY DISCUSSION IN THE PAST, AND THERE WERE A DIRECTOR WHO WANTED WHO SAID, I HAVE A LOT OF BIG BILLS, I THINK I JUST IT SAVES ME TIME TO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOU. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, I'M FASTER THAN GOING THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND, BUT BUT THAT SO WE HAD A LITTLE WE REACHED AN IMPASSE ON THAT ONE AND AND SO THIS IS NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT HERE. AND I DO FULLY SUPPORT THE DIFFERENTIAL STATE STATUTE IS 199. WHATEVER WE HAVE HERE, THIS DOES ALLOW FOR SOME COMMUNICATION TO HAPPEN. AND THAT'S BEEN SO VALUABLE SO VALUABLE. AND IF I MAY, MAYOR, JUST A MILESTONE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT CONVERSATION IS AT THE TIME THE STATE STATUTE LIMITS. WE WERE WITHIN THOSE WE WERE WITHIN THOSE LIMITS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TIM, THAT THEY INCREASED TO 100,000 BACK IN JULY, JULY, JULY 1ST. JULY 1ST. SO SO WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? YEAH, WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE DURING THAT TIME. BUT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH CHANGE IN LEGISLATION TO ESSENTIALLY INCREASE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT. YEAH. SO THIS IS VERY HELPFUL. NOW WE COULD TAKE ALL OF THESE DIRECTORS UP TO THE SAME AMOUNT. BUT SOME DEPARTMENTS JUST DON'T NEED HIGH LEVELS. THE. BUT AND AND SORRY THE THE CONVERSATION THAT ENSUES WHEN A DEPARTMENT IS SAYING, HEY LOOK I HAVE A $51,000, YOU KNOW, ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE SIGNED. AND YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IT'S FOR. IT'S JUST A GOOD WAY OF KEEPING TABS. SOMETIMES I MIGHT ARGUE THAT ANOTHER HIGH DOLLAR DEPARTMENT IS THE AIRPORT, AND IT MIGHT, IN OUR FINAL DRAFT, GO UP TO 75. ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY DON'T HAVE A TON OF THOSE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT HERE WAS NOT ONLY WAS A VALUE, BUT FREQUENCY. AND AIRPORT DOES HAVE SOME THAT GO UP. FREQUENCY IS JUST IS NOT AS OFTEN AS IT IS WITH MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND PUBLIC WORKS AND POWER. AND TO ADD ON TO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT MARK WAS SAYING TO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD OVER, OVER THE YEARS, OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE GONE UP TO THAT $51,000. AND THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER. AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO CALL MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT THIS SITUATION. AND THEN WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY ON IT. WE BRING IT COLLABORATIVELY TO THE MAYOR TO APPROVE, AND IT'S BEEN WORKING OUT REALLY WELL. BUT BUT I THINK IT IS TIME FOR A REFRESH, IF YOU WILL. ABSOLUTELY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO WITH THE AIRPORT, AIRPORT, A LOT OF THEIR LARGE EXPENDITURES ARE FFA, FAA, WHICH IT FALLS UNDER THE FEDERAL RULES. THE FEDERAL RULES REQUIRE ANYTHING OVER 10,000 TO BE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR. SO THEY HAVE TO DO THAT ANYWAY. AND I MIGHT ADD THAT THIS IS IN CONJUNCTION TO THAT NEW PIO TYPE THAT WE'VE DEFINED IN HERE, THAT QUANTITY VARIANCE. SO THE QUANTITY VARIANCE DOES DEFINE UP TO 25% QUANTITY. THEY ALSO HAVE THIS VARIANCE THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THAT PO BEFORE COUNCIL SEES. THIS IS WHAT I WAS WONDERING. THIS CALL OUT FROM ONE IS NOT HOW I UNDERSTOOD WE WERE THINKING ABOUT IT, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL THAT WE WERE THINKING IT WAS DOLLAR AMOUNT, NOT UNITS. I DON'T CARE HOW MANY UNITS STATE THAT BECAUSE I DID WATCH THAT. YEAH, BUT ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. YOU HAVE AN ANSWER AS WELL. SO QUANTUM VARIANCE CONTRACT. THIS MEANS THAT ON THE FOR CONCRETE YOU HAVE UP TO 25% OF THAT OF THAT UNIT THAT THEY THINK THEY'LL NEED. AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL. BUT BY THEN IT'S TOO LATE BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY ONE YEAR QUANTITY UNITS CONTRACTS ARE ALWAYS AFTER THE FACT. SO IT'S A MORE OF A RATIFICATION THAN IT IS BEFORE THE SERVICE. SO THEY WILL IT BE ABLE TO THEY WOULDN'T STOP THE WORK. NO BECAUSE IT WAS BEYOND WHEN YOU SEE THAT COME ACROSS FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL IT WOULD BE NOTED AS A QUANTITY VARIANCE. SO YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE APPROVING COULD VARY BY THE TOP DOLLAR AMOUNT ITEM BY 25% AND ADDITIONAL 15 OR 20%, 25% BEFORE IT COMES BACK TO YOU GUYS AGAIN. OKAY. YES. SO DO NOT EXCEED AMOUNT. ESSENTIALLY. [01:25:03] CORRECT? YES. WITH WITH A 25% ADJUSTMENT. YEAH. I BELIEVE WE'VE ENCAPSULATED HERE ON THIS POLICY EVERYTHING THE COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT WITH DIRECTOR FERGUSON. SO 3.5 IS ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS TERMINOLOGIES THAT THEY HAVE TO DO FOR THEIR. NOTHING TO DIFFERENT THERE. IT'S PRETTY STANDARD 3.6 IS THE IS ALL THE FEDERAL LANGUAGE THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER UNIFORM GUIDANCE. WHICH MEANS IT'S ALL THE ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY GRANT THAT WE THAT WE DO WITH FEDERAL FUNDS. AND THERE'S A LOT OF THEM I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL, BUT JUST BE AWARE THAT THAT IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE DON'T CHANGE BECAUSE THAT'S GIVEN TO US. THIS IS WHAT IS REQUIRED. THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE COULD CHANGE IT. WE JUST WOULDN'T BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL GRANTS. SO. THAT'S ALL THOSE REQUIRED LANGUAGE THAT'S NEEDED FOR GRANT PURPOSES. YOU KNOW, IF I CAN ADD TO WHAT MARK JUST SAID, TOO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BENEFIT FOR THE DEPARTMENT. SO AS THEY DO CONSIDER SUBMITTING A GRANT APPLICATION, THEY CAN USE THIS DOCUMENT TO ENSURE THAT THEIR PROJECT PLAN MEETS COMPLIANCE STANDARDS UNDER THE UNIFORM GUIDANCE. YES. SO THAT IS A HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY OF THE POLICY. WE DID NOT PUT THIS ON. WE HAVE NOT SUBMITTED A MEMO FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL. I WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK BEFORE WE PUT THAT THROUGH. I THINK THE TIME HAS PASSED FOR THIS THURSDAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET IT DONE BY THIS THURSDAY, BUT IT WOULD BE COMING AS SOON AS YOU GUYS FEEL YOU'RE GOOD WITH US, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A VOTE. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID TO STARTING THE NEW YEAR WITH A FRESH POLICY. YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING DONE FOR STARTING THE FIRST OF THE YEAR FOLLOWS, AND SO WE COULD VERY EASILY PUT IT ON FOR THE THE NIGHT OF THE EIGHTH. AND THAT, I THINK, STILL GIVES VERY LITTLE WILL HAPPEN OF SUBSTANCE WILL HAPPEN THE FIRST THROUGH THE SEVENTH OR FIRST THROUGH THE EIGHTH. AND SO I THINK IT MIGHT BE USEFUL. I WOULD JUST PRETEND THAT THIS ISN'T A ONE TIME PROCESS. I MEAN, MY, MY OTHER ROLE, THIS IS THERE'S RARELY A FOUR MONTH PERIOD WHERE WE DON'T COME WITH SOME NEW UPDATE TO THIS, NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE NEEDS AS AN ORGANIZATION AND THE CITY WILL HAVE NEEDS, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS CONSTANTLY UPDATING THIS. AND IT'S IT'S A FULL, HOW SHOULD I SAY, THIS INDUSTRY THAT TEACHES AND HELPS WITH THESE KIND OF POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. SO YEAH, I AGREE. I MEAN, THERE'LL BE AN ANNUAL REVIEW TO THIS, BUT THE POLICY ITSELF DOES SAY THAT THERE WILL BE A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW EVERY TWO YEARS. AND I, I THINK THE WORKDAY HAVING THIS DONE FOR THAT IS PROBABLY CRITICAL SO THAT YOU COULD DO YOUR WORKFLOWS AND GET THINGS RIGHT. AND CURRENTLY WE'VE MATCHED THIS POLICY WITHIN THE INTEGRATION WORKFLOW OF WORKDAY. AND IF I COULD ADD JUST A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, WE DIDN'T SAY AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION, THE COPY OF THE POLICY WAS IN YOUR PACKET. THE PRESENTATION AND AN ADDITIONAL COPY OF THE SAME POLICY IS IN YOUR COUNCIL COUNCIL DRIVE THAT YOU HAVE. SO IF YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT, YOU'VE GOT TWO PLACES TO GO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT IT. DO YOU ANTICIPATE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTING TO BRING FORTH A LANGUAGE CHANGES ANYWHERE? I'M JUST INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT DEPARTMENTS HAD STICKING POINTS AND WHERE THOSE STICKING POINTS WERE WHEN YOU GAVE IT TO THE TO THE DIRECTORS, SO THAT WE DID NOT GIVE IT TO DIRECTORS BECAUSE WE DID CONSULT IT. A COUPLE DIRECTORS IN ITS CREATION. A LOT OF THIS COMES THROUGH MEETING WITH CITYWIDE STAFF ON PURCHASING. WHEN WE WERE CONFIGURING WORK DAYS. SO WE KIND OF KNEW WHAT THE PROCESSES ARE. PART OF THE REASON WHY DID NOT FEEL THE NEED TO SEND THIS OUT TO ALL THE DIRECTORS IS IT'S MOSTLY LEGAL. IT'S MOSTLY LEGAL LANGUAGE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH. THERE'S NOT MUCH SUBJECTIVITY TO THIS. THE ONLY PART THAT YOU COULD DEEM TO BE SUBJECTIVE WOULD BE THE MAYOR AND THE DELEGATE THAT SHE HAS FOR APPROVAL, EVERYTHING ELSE STRAIGHT LEGAL AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WHERE WE STUMBLED UPON SOME ISSUES WAS DURING OUR CARES, SOME OF OUR CARES MONEY THAT WE HAD, WE STUMBLED UPON SOME ISSUES, AND THAT WAS WHAT RESULTED IN THE FINDING THAT WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED. SO, YOU KNOW, THE CARES WAS A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE. BUT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF DEPARTMENTS THAT [01:30:01] SUBMIT FOR FEDERAL GRANTS. SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ONE PLACE DESK REFERENCE MANUAL WHERE THEY WHEN THEY SUBMIT A GRANT PROPOSAL, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE. SO DID REACH OUT TO POWER. STEVEN BORMANN, INTERIM DIRECTOR, DID GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT FIVE MONTHS AGO ABOUT WHAT HE LIKED. AND THEN I GAVE A DRAFT TO PAM PAM FOR THAT DRAFT. ON TO DIRECTOR FERGUSON A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND THEN I THINK SHE ALSO WROTE IT ONTO THE MAYOR. SO WE DID GET SOME INPUT, BUT. MOSTLY LEGAL. YEAH, I THINK WHAT YOU'LL FIND IS IT'S LEGAL AND STRUCTURAL, RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION ON YOUR PHONE. SO SOMEONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND MONEY WITHOUT HAVING SOMEONE ELSE SIGN OFF. RIGHT. THAT'S REALLY THE BIG PRINCIPLE HERE. AND THEN WHEN THOSE NUMBERS GET THERE WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND HIGHWAY $5 AND DOE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, MY DOE MONEY THAT I SPENT IS HAS DIFFERENT THINGS THAT I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE OF HOW THEY'VE WRITTEN GRANTS. RIGHT. BUT THAT GETS TO THE GRANT NUMBERS. SO WHEN YOU DID THIS WITH GRANTS, THEN YOUR PROGRAM DIRECTORS WILL HAVE A LOT MORE INPUT, I WOULD SAY. AND AND I, I MEAN, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THAT AND I, I KNOW HOW THAT WORKS. I JUST WONDER ABOUT THE DAY TO DAY IF THERE ISN'T SOMETHING THAT. COULD HAVE COULD HAVE BEEN MISSED. WELL, WITHOUT HAVING I THINK THEY SHOULD DEFINITELY SEE IT NOW. BEFORE, BEFORE. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BEFORE WE THERE'S NO ONE TIME BEFORE WE BECAUSE THEY MIGHT SEE SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE, OH, THIS IS HOW IT WORK, RIGHT? SO LET'S GET THE LAW AND THE REALITIES ON THAT. I THINK TOO, THEY'VE BEEN LIVING UNDER TIM'S STYLE OF, OF MANAGING PROCUREMENT LATELY, OVER THE PAST YEAR. AND HE HAS BEEN MORE THOROUGH. AND SO SOME OF THIS CULTURAL SHIFT HAS ALREADY STARTED TO HAPPEN. AND, AND SO PEOPLE ARE PRIMED FOR THIS STRUCTURE THAT THEY'RE NOW GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIND IT IN THE MANUAL INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GET IT THROUGH A PHONE CALL OR CALL WITH FRUSTRATION. I THINK I'M REFERENCING BACK MORE TO MARK'S COMMENT ABOUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, LIKE, OH, THIS ISN'T HOW IT'S BEEN DONE. THERE'S BEEN SOME HEARTBURN. AND SO NOW MAYBE THEY ARE THIS IS USED TO IT, BUT THERE IS, THERE'S THERE IS A COUPLE PLACES LIKE IT WITHIN THE BUDGET OUT THE COMMENT, OH, IT'S IN MY BUDGET. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEND IT. SO I JUST KNOW, FOLLOWING UP ON SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS, I DON'T THINK OUR INTENTION IS TO CIRCUMVENT OR OR GO AROUND THE DEPARTMENTS. IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE POLICY. THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN CHANGE. SO COUNCILOR FRANCIS WANTED TO WEIGH IN SO YOU CAN MAKE ROOM FOR THAT. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT 2.1 IN KIND OF PROCEDURE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUDGET AUTHORITY THING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. WHEN WE LOOK AT A MEMO, IT OFTENTIMES WILL SAY WITHIN THE 2526 BUDGET, DOES THAT MEAN SERVICES HAS REVIEWED IT AND AGREED TO THAT, OR IS THAT COMING DIRECTLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT SAYING WE THINK IT'S WITHIN OUR BUDGET THAT'S COMING FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT THE ROUTING OF THE MEMO GOES TO PAM, WHICH SHE VALIDATES. THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. AND IF I CAN'T FIND IT IN THE BUDGET, COUNCILOR FRANCIS, I CONTACT THE ACCOUNTANT OR THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTLY BEFORE IT IS ROUTED THROUGH THE PROCESS ANY FURTHER, THE PROCEDURE AGAIN, FORMALIZE THE INCOME THROUGH MUNICIPAL SERVICES BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL. YEAH. YES, WE DEFINITELY AFTER THIS, WE'LL SEND IT OUT TO ALL THE DIRECTORS TO GET ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK BEFORE THE DATE. I DID SKIP ONE IMPORTANT NOTE ON 2.2. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CLEAN UP IS DELEGATION OF AUTHORITY, AND THE PATH THAT IT GOES. SO WHEN A DIRECTOR IS OUT, THEY CAN DELEGATE TO THE NEXT HIGHEST LEVEL AUTHORITY WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. WITHIN WORKDAY, WE HAVE PROGRAMED THAT ALL DELEGATION IS HAS AN HR APPROVAL AND A FINANCE APPROVAL JUST TO ENSURE THAT THE THAT WE KNOW WHO'S BEEN DELEGATED TO AND IT'S ATTRACTIVE TO THE WITHIN THE SYSTEM. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM AND WORKDAY IS THAT IF A DIRECTOR IS OUT CALLS UP HIS ADMIN, SAYS YOU CAN SIGN FOR ME OR TRYING TO REMOVE THAT, THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP, THAT IT GOES TO THE NEXT SENIOR EMPLOYEE. SO WHEN YOU SAY TRACK IT, DOES THAT MEAN YOU COULD PULL UP THAT NEXT PERSON'S DESIGNATION? THAT'S A LIST OF WHAT THEY WOULD APPROVE. SO THE WHOLE ORG CHART IS BEING INPUTTED INTO WORKDAY. AND YOU CAN SEE THE PERSON WHO'S BEEN ASSIGNED TO I SEE MY TITLE MY TITLE AND. PICTURE AND NAME AND SEE WHAT THEY'VE APPROVED. AND IF I COULD CLARIFY A STATEMENT THAT [01:35:05] MARK MADE REALLY QUICKLY. SO SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WHEN WE DRAFTED THIS POLICY, WE DIDN'T JUST BROAD BRUSH AND SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY FOR TWO REASONS. FIRST, AS MARK SAID EARLIER, WE NEEDED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS AS WE SET UP HERE. ERP PROGRAM. AND THE SECOND PIECE IS WE HAVE AN AUDIT THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP, AND WHAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO IS DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE MAKING HEADWAY OR A PATH FORWARD, IF YOU WILL, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE CONCERNS THAT SHOWED UP IN THE SINGLE AUDIT. SO IT WAS MORE OF A TIMING THING. LET'S GET EVERYTHING DOWN BASED ON EITHER STATE STATUTE OR FEDERAL UNIFORM GUIDANCE, AND THEN GET A SOLID DRAFT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, REVIEW IT WITH THEM, AND THEN THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO SEND IT OUT TO THE DIRECTORS. BUT AS MARK MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S VERY LITTLE THINGS THAT WE CAN SAY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IF WE'RE GOING TO STAY COMPLIANT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO PRESENT WITH THIS? THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN DOING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS. ALL RIGHT. SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD LOOK TO SEE THIS NOT AT THIS THURSDAY'S MEETING BUT MAYBE THE SUBSEQUENT THURSDAY SOUNDS AWESOME THEREAFTER. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, SOME OF YOU MIGHT RECALL A FEW YEARS BACK THERE WAS FALLS, IDAHO FALLS. POWER WAS WANTING TO TAKE ITS OWN PROCUREMENT ACTIVITIES AND MANAGE THEM TO MANAGE THEM, RATHER THAN ROUTING EVERYTHING THROUGH MUNICIPAL SERVICES. WE ALSO HAD AND WE HAD SOME FUNNY LITTLE THINGS HAPPEN ON THEIR LEARNING CURVE VIA THOSE BEING PURCHASED AND AND HAVING THEM BEING IN WAITING LINES. AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THERE WAS A VEHICLE SOMEWHERE THAT SHOWED UP. MAYBE THAT WAS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE HAD SOME FUNNY LITTLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES A FEW YEARS BACK. SOME OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, AND IT'S BECAUSE OUR POLICIES WERE NOT REALLY WRITTEN AND EVERYTHING WAS PEOPLE DOING THE BEST THEY COULD, BUT NOT KNOWING AND SOMETIMES SUBSTITUTING THEIR JUDGMENT FOR. RATHER THAN MAKING A PHONE CALL AND OPENING UP THE CAN OF WORMS THAT THE PHONE CALL MIGHT PROVIDE. THIS IS GOING TO BE SO MUCH EASIER FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT TO KNOW WHAT STEPS ARE THERE, OR WHAT STEPS PAM WILL BE TAKING ON THEIR BEHALF AS SHE GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR THEM. BUT THIS IS IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY IMPORTANT STEP FORWARD. IN FACT, WE HAVE SOME EMPLOYEES WHO COME FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO SAY, WHERE'S THE WHERE'S THE POLICY? AND THEY KIND OF GO, WHAT? YOU DON'T HAVE A MANUAL FOR ME TO FOLLOW? AND BY THE END OF THIS PROCESS, YOU GUYS WILL HAVE APPROVED MANUAL. IT'S SO WORTH GOING THROUGH DAILY AND GETTING THEIR HELP WITH THIS TOO, BECAUSE OUR STAFF IS TOO BUSY KEEPING UP WITH EVERY DAY WORK TO TRY TO CRAFT A FULLY COMPLIANT POLICIES. AND SO THIS IS SUCH AN EXCITING PIECE FOR THE NERDS WHO LIKE TO HAVE GOOD, SOLID PROCESSES UNDERLYING OUR WORK. SO SORRY. I HAD TO SAY THAT THE NERD PART, BUT I SEE TIM SMILING. I SEE IAN WAVED THAT LITTLE HAND OF SUPPORT THERE. YEAH, SO. AND I SEE COUNCILOR LARSON IS ALSO NERDING OUT WITH ME ON THIS ONE. RIGHT. COUNCILOR FRANCIS IS ALSO VERY ANIMATED. I'LL TELL YOU FROM MY VANTAGE POINT. HE'S FRANCIS, JUST VERY ANIMATED. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS EXCITING. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS? NO. SO WE'LL JUST SEND THIS OUT TO THE DIRECTORS. AND THEN IF COUNCIL MEMBERS IF YOU HAVE ANY. I KNOW MAYOR HASN'T LOOKED AT MY ENGLISH ON THIS YET, SO I'M SURE THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT YOU DO BETTER. AND SO JUST GIVE YOU THOSE COMMENTS BACK AND WE WILL DROP THOSE IN OUR NEXT FOR THE EIGHTH. SO IN ORDER TO BE ON THE EIGHTH, I NEED IT BY A SECOND. HUM. YEAH. HAPPY NEW YEAR. YEAH. MORE. THE FIRST, THE FIRST. WELL ACTUALLY. SO THE VERY FIRST ONE. TECHNICALLY THE 31ST. SO BY THE END OF THE [Office of the Mayor, Government Affairs Administrator] YEAR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS A REPORT FROM. CATHERINE. SHE'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT GIVING US SOME UPDATES ON ON GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS WORK. BUT WHILE SHE'S COMING UP HERE I'M GOING TO ASK YOUR INDULGENCE. WE HAVE A 5:00 DEADLINE ON THIS ITEM. GO AHEAD. CATHERINE, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME UP. BUT I WAS GOING TO DO THIS UNDER THE OUR, YOU KNOW, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL BUSINESS AND REVIEW. THIS IS A BALLOT THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM EQUIP. AND EARLY ON I THOUGHT THAT I COULD JUST FILL IT OUT. AND THEN WHEN I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE BALLOT, I REALIZED THAT THE COUNT I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SIGNIFY THAT THE COUNCIL IS IN SUPPORT. WE HAVE MAYOR BLAD HELD A SEAT ON THE BOARD WHEN MAYOR BLAD WAS NOT REELECTED. THAT SEAT TO THEN WENT INTO PLAY AND SEVERAL PEOPLE CITIES WERE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOMINATE FOLKS. AND THESE TWO FINALISTS, MAYOR BERLIN AND [01:40:03] MAYOR MAYOR HILLIARD WERE THE TWO, I GUESS, ONES WITH THE MOST NOMINATIONS, MAYOR HILLIARD, BEING FROM HAGERMAN, IS NOT AS CLOSE AS MAYOR BERLIN, WHO IS JUST UP THE ROAD IN SAINT ANTHONY. MAYOR BERLIN HAS BEEN A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR DISTRICT TO THE AIC BOARD FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I THINK HE ALSO REPRESENTS A SMALL CITY, WHICH YOU MIGHT THINK HAS NO BEARING ON US BEING THE LARGEST CITY HE'S ONE OF HAS FEWER THAN 500 OR 700 PEOPLE IN HIS CITY, BUT HE IS QUITE SAVVY, QUITE AVAILABLE AND QUITE DILIGENT. THEY HAVE THREE VERY LONG MEETINGS, THREE TIMES A YEAR, VERY LONG MEETING, THREE TIMES A YEAR. I THINK THEY MIGHT EVEN BE OVERNIGHT STAYS JUST TO TO BE TWO DAYS IN MEETINGS. BUT I WAS INTENDING TO SUPPORT MAYOR BERLIN AND THIS BALLOT IS READY TO GO. CARLA IS JUST WAITING. ARE THERE ANY OF YOU WHO ARE OF A DIFFERENT MINDSET, OR CAN WE GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT SOMEONE FROM EASTERN IDAHO FOR THIS SEAT? SEEING SOME NODS, I'M SEEING THREE NODS, FOUR NODS, FIVE NODS. YOU'RE GETTING A NOD FROM COUNCILOR FRANCIS AS WELL, PJ. ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE CARLA THEN COMPLETE THIS AND. SCAN IT AND EMAIL IT OUT. AT THIS TIME SHE WAS LISTENING AS WELL. MAYOR. WE DON'T ALL GET INVOLVED. NO, JUST ONE VOTE PER CITY. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND WAS THIS ON THE AGENDA? THIS WAS TWO THINGS. IT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO DO TOWARD THE END UNDER THIS PART. OH, SORRY. AS LONG AS I HAVE TO DO IT EARLY BECAUSE OF THE FIVE DEADLINE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ON THERE. WELL, I GUESS I NEEDED TO BEG YOUR INDULGENCE TO DO THAT, AND I ASSUMED IT. SO ARE WE OKAY HAVING HAD THAT CONVERSATION? OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE BACKWARDS AND GO BACKWARDS, BUT MOVE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE AND TURN IT OVER TO CATHERINE. CATHERINE, AS YOU KNOW, WHERE AT LEAST TWO HATS, IF NOT MORE IN THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS IS ONE OF THOSE. AND SO SHE HAS SEVERAL THINGS TO REPORT TO US. OKAY. WONDERFUL. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. GLAD TO BE HERE. THE LEGISLATURE WILL OPEN. THE IDAHO STATE LEGISLATURE WILL OPEN ON JANUARY 12TH, 2026. AND WITH THAT, THERE HAS BEEN SOME PRE-WORK UNDERWAY. TODAY, THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS AND OTHER CITIES MET TO HOST THE LEGISLATORS FROM DISTRICTS 27 TO 35. WE HAD REALLY GOOD ATTENDANCE, AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MAYORS AND LEGISLATORS TO COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT UPCOMING ISSUES THAT MAY BE ADDRESSED IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND OR PREVIOUS LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED, AND HOW IT AFFECTS ME. SO THAT WAS TODAY'S CONVERSATION. OUR MAYOR ELECT, LISA BURTENSHAW, WAS THERE WITH US. AND THIS HAS BEEN AN EVENT THAT THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS HAS PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF, AND THE CITY OF REXBURG ON FOR A HANDFUL OF YEARS. AND WE HAD A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION. SO I WILL COVER THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. BUT FROM OTHER MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF WHAT WILL BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE LEGISLATURE AND OUR LEGISLATORS PRIORITIES MOVING FORWARD. SO ONE, ONE PIECE OF GOOD NEWS AND I'M REALLY OPTIMISTIC FOR THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I THINK OUR IDAHO LEGISLATORS ARE REALLY THE SHINING STARS OF THE IDAHO LEGISLATURE. THEY ARE JUST SUCH A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND WE ARE LUCKY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN REALLY ACTIVELY LISTENING TO CITIES THAT HAVE EXPRESSED THE CONCERNS WITH HOUSE BILL 389, AND I THINK WE MAY SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON AN ADJUSTMENT OR REMOVAL OF THE 80% CAP THAT HAS LIMITED CITIES TO PAY FOR GROWTH, AND WE MAY SEE SOME CHANGES TO 75% CAP THAT WE HAVE ON NEW CONSTRUCTION AND ANNEXATION. SO STAY TUNED ON THAT. I WILL BE CLOSELY WATCHING IT, AS WELL AS ASSOCIATION OF IDAHO CITIES. AND REALLY PART OF THAT CONVERSATION CAME FROM THIS LAND USE AND HOUSING COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED, THAT WAS CHAIRED BY SENATOR WOODWARD OF SAGLE, IDAHO, AND AND REPRESENTATIVE REDMOND OF COEUR D'ALENE. AND THESE TWO GENTLEMEN HAVE CHAIRED THE THE THE COMMITTEE AND HAVE BROKEN IT, BROKEN THE WORK INTO SUBCOMMITTEES. AND ONE OF THE MEETINGS WAS HELD HERE IN EAST IDAHO. AND WHAT I HAVE HANDED OUT TO YOU IS TWO, TWO DOCUMENTS HERE, BUT ONE IS THE FULL GAMUT OF RECOMMENDATIONS [01:45:05] THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES MADE TO THE FULL LAND USE AND HOUSING COMMITTEE THAT MET A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM SENATOR OR FROM SENATOR WOODWARD IS 5 TO 6 RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE MOVED FORWARD TO THE FULL LEGISLATURE. WHAT I THINK IS REALLY ENCOURAGING FROM THIS WORK. I WAS VERY NERVOUS WHEN I HEARD THAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS BEING FORMED BECAUSE, AS WE ALL KNOW, LAND USE, ANNEXATION POLICIES, DEVELOPMENT IS BEST MANAGED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL WITH OUR CITY COUNCILS AND OUR COUNTY STAFF ADVISING AND DOING THAT GOOD WORK. AND WHAT WHAT WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING AND WHY I'M SO OPTIMISTIC IS THAT COMMITTEE REALLY DUG IN AND DID SOME REALLY GREAT LISTENING AROUND THE STATE, ESPECIALLY HERE IN EAST IDAHO. THEY TOURED MANUFACTURED HOME. NOT NOT, NOT SO MUCH, BUT LIKE A SALES FORCE. SO FOLKS COULD GO WALK THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT MANUFACTURED HOUSING WAS LOOKING LIKE. WHAT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES WERE THERE. THEY REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCES OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, AND LOOKING AT NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREAS AND HOW ALL OF THESE PIECES OF HOUSING WOULD HELP BUILD UP THE COMMUNITIES AND LEARN FROM THAT PROCESS. HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THESE DECISIONS TO BE KEPT AT THE LOCAL, LOCAL LEVEL. SO WHAT YOU'LL FIND IN THIS, THIS LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS IS A HANDFUL OF DIFFERENT SUBCOMMITTEES, INCLUDING PERMITTING, LAND USE FINANCING, INCENTIVES, ZONING. AND YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MIGHT RAISE YOUR EYEBROWS A LITTLE BIT. THERE'S SOME THAT ARE TALKING ABOUT. LET'S SEE. ADUS BEING BEING ALLOWED BY RIGHT. ALLOW UP TO FOURPLEX FOURPLEXES IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONES BY RIGHT. SO I THINK THERE THERE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, SOME QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED. BUT I THINK WHAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE COMING FROM THE FULL RECOMMENDATION IS VERY MUCH CIRCLING BACK TO THE LOCALS NEED TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO I WILL I WILL BE KEEPING YOU POSTED ON WHAT COMES FROM THAT BIG EFFORT THIS YEAR, BUT IT REALLY WAS, I THINK, WELL DONE BY SENATOR WOODWARD AND REPRESENTATIVE REDMOND. SO WITH THAT, ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT CAME OUT OF THIS UNDER THE INCENTIVES SUBCOMMITTEE IS THE LOCAL OPTION TAX. WE PROBABLY ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHICH LOCAL IDAHO, WHICH WAS EFFORT BY PETE SIMMONS. SHE REALLY WAS WORKING ON BUILDING A COALITION TO HELP CITIES UNDERSTAND WHAT LOCAL OPTION TAX COULD OR COULD AND WOULD DO FOR CITIES. THEN, WITH HER INTEREST IN IN UNDERSTANDING THIS AS WELL, BROUGHT FORTH A BILL THAT WAS GIVEN AN RS AND DID RECEIVE A HEARING, BUT IT DID NOT MOVE FORWARD. IT DIED IN COMMITTEE. BUT THAT WAS BY AGREEMENT FOR THE CONVERSATION TO HAPPEN WITH THE LEGISLATORS. AND THEN SHE ALSO CAME OUT AND HELD A VARIETY OF ZOOM MEETINGS TO TALK WITH THE LOCALS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT LOCAL OPTION TAX MEANT FOR THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THE LOCAL OPTION TAX IS GOING TO GO ANYWHERE IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. WHAT WE DID SEE HAPPEN IS THE THE CAP FOR LOCAL OPTION TAX FOR RESORT CITIES AT TEN 000 PEOPLE. SANDPOINT, IDAHO JUST OUTGREW THAT CAP SO THEY CAN NO LONGER ACCEPT OR CHARGE FOR LOCAL OPTION TAX. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR SANDPOINT TO TO MEET THEIR OBLIGATIONS FOR THEIR CITY. SO WE MAY SEE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LOCAL OPTION TAX BEING CONSIDERED FOR POPULATIONS OF 15,000 OR LESS. BUT I KNOW THERE'S ALSO SOME CONCERN FROM SOME OF OUR MORE MODERATE LEGISLATORS THAT THERE'S ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THE LOCAL OPTION TAX BEING OPENED UP, THAT THERE ARE SOME LEGISLATORS, THAT THEY JUST WANT TO SEE IT GO AWAY COMPLETELY. SO THERE COULD BE A RISK IN EVEN HAVING THE DEBATE AND EVEN OPENING IT UP TO THE LEGISLATURE TO EVEN LOOK AT OTHER CITIES BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. SO WE WILL WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO WATCH THAT. BUT I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE THAT IDAHO, WE'RE FACING SOME BUDGET WOES WITH WHAT'S IN THE NEWS. WE'VE GOT AN $80 MILLION DEFICIT WITH $22.6 MILLION BEHIND IN PROJECTED [01:50:01] STATE REVENUE. SO WE DO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES AHEAD OF US, INCLUDING WHETHER OR NOT IDAHO WILL CONFORM, CONFORM TO THE BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL, WHICH IS ESTIMATED TO POTENTIALLY COST $500 MILLION FOR THE STATE OF IDAHO. SO CONFORMITY TO TAX LAW HAS HAS ALWAYS BEEN. IDAHO HAS ALWAYS CONFORMED TO WHAT THE FEDERAL TAX LAW IS. WE MAY NOT SEE THAT THIS YEAR. WE MAY SEE IT. THERE'S 1.1. $2 BILLION, I BELIEVE, IN THE STATE'S RESERVES. SO IF YOU TAKE THE THE CONFORMITY COST PLUS THE STATE'S DEFICIT, THAT NEARLY WIPES OUT OUR RAINY DAY FUND FOR THE STATE. SO WHAT? THERE IS SOME CONCERN THAT THE 3% OF THE GOVERNMENT THE GOVERNOR ORDERED ONLY CREATED $80 MILLION IN SAVINGS FOR THE STATE THAT DID NOT TOUCH PUBLIC EDUCATION. THERE'S LEGISLATORS THAT ARE PUSHING BACK FOR ANY PUBLIC EDUCATION FUNDING TO BE TOUCHED, BUT THAT IS STILL TO BE DETERMINED. AND KEEP IN MIND, THERE WAS $50 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR SCHOOL VOUCHERS, AND THAT THERE'S A CASE WORKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE SUPREME COURT. BUT THAT MONEY HAS NOT BEEN SPENT YET. BUT WE WILL SEE WHERE THAT FALLS AS WELL. THERE IS ALSO TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL VOUCHER FUNDING NOT BEING FINISHED OR WRAPPED UP. THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONS MADE TO THE SCHOOL VOUCHERS THIS YEAR, SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT CLOSELY. AC IS WORKING ON A FEW BILLS, ONE OF WHICH WILL BE TO CODIFY THE RECENT SUPREME COURT RULING THAT ANY DELINQUENT FEES OR PROPERTY TAXES BE PASSED ALONG TO THE APPROPRIATE TAXING DISTRICTS. AIC WANTS TO SEE THAT CODIFIED IN STATE CODE, SO THEY HAVE DRAFT LEGISLATION FOR THAT. THERE IS ALSO AN INTEREST IN MATERIALS AND GOODS DONATED TO CITIES, BEING ABLE TO BE RECOGNIZED AS PUBLIC DONATION FOR PUBLIC BUILDINGS. THERE ARE SOME SIDEBOARDS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE INCLUDED WITH THAT. THIS CAME TO TO LIGHT BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES IN SALMON, IDAHO, WITH THE THE CHALLENGES OF PASSING A SCHOOL BOND THERE AND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS STEPPING UP AND MAKING REPAIRS TO THE SCHOOLS. SO THERE'S SOME SIDEBOARDS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT ON PLACE, BUT NOT ANY. NO ONE COULD JUST BE, YOU KNOW, DONATING NAILS TO PROJECTS. THESE WOULD HAVE TO BE PUBLIC WORKS CONTRACTORS THAT WERE ALREADY BIDDING ON PROJECTS. BUT WE COULD SEE THAT. AND THEN AIC IS ALSO WORKING ON A BILL TO ALLOW SMALL CITIES TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS SO THAT IF A IF A CITY COUNCILORS SON IS IS THE ONLY QUALIFIED APPLICANT IN A COMMUNITY TO BE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, THAT THE THE RULE OF NEPOTISM IS, IS NOT THE THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CAN BE RELATED TO CITY COUNCILORS. SO THAT CONVERSATION IS HAPPENING AS WELL WITH SOME ACTUAL DRAFT LEGISLATION AND THE SENSE THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM EARLIER DECEMBER MEETING. AND THEN TODAY IS THE LEGISLATORS UNDERSTAND THAT THESE SMALL COMMUNITIES, SOMETIMES THERE'S ONLY SO MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN HIRE. YEAH. I THINK. I THINK THAT REALLY COVERS COVERS. MOST OF IT. WE ARE SEEING QUITE A BIT OF SUPPORT FOR LAUNCH, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT NEWS. THE LAUNCH PROGRAM ALLOWS OR GRANTS EVERY GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR $5,000. NO, EXCUSE ME, $7,000 TO GO ON TO IDAHO SCHOOLS. THAT HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL. SOME OF THE NAYSAYERS THAT WERE NOT FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT PROGRAM, WE'RE SEEING THEM BECOME VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT PROGRAM. SO I THINK THOSE DOLLARS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE GOOD WORK OF THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND THE GRANTS THAT THEY PROVIDE FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING AND JOBS AROUND THE STATE. WE'RE WE'RE SEEING GREAT MOMENTUM AND SUPPORT WITH THAT. SO OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO KEEP THE PIPELINE OF WORKERS IN IDAHO. BOTH THOSE ARE EMERGING PROFESSIONALS AND THOSE THAT ARE IN THEIR CAREER WITH JUST THE WORK THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH MICRON AND THEN ALSO OUT OF THE INL. SO WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF OF INTEREST IN THAT. AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THOSE SUPPLY LINE OR THOSE SUPPLY THE FOLKS THAT SUPPLY THE WORK AT MICRON COMING OVER TO EAST IDAHO AND PARTNERING WITH INL. SO THAT IS TRICKLING OUT AS THE WORK IS ALSO TRICKLING OVER, TRICKLING OVER TO THE TREASURE VALLEY. SO I THINK IT'S IT'S VERY OPTIMISTIC. YES. CAN I I WOULD ADD THE ONE ABOUT THE INSURANCE. YES. PLEASE. PLEASE DO SHOW YOU. [01:55:01] OKAY. GO AHEAD. THE ONE THAT I THINK IS. YEAH. SO. YES. SO THE THERE'S A LEGISLATION THE AIC IS WORKING ON AS WELL, THE POLICY FOR SEPARATION FOR PERCY CURRENTLY NOW REQUIRES A 30 DAY COOLING OFF PERIOD. AND SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN THAT. I MEANT HEALTH INSURANCE. OH, OKAY. YES. SORRY. OKAY. THE ONE THAT. YES. SO. YES. SO THERE'S TWO REALLY, REALLY POSITIVE PERCY PIECES IN THE HOPPER AND THEN THE WELL, ONE FOR PERCY, ONE FOR INSURANCE. SO, SO ESSENTIALLY A CHIEF CAN STEP DOWN AND STILL BE REHIRED IN A DEPARTMENT IN A, IN A LESSER ROLE OR IN A SMALLER COMMUNITY. AND THERE'S A FIX TO THE PERCY RULE. SO THAT'S UNDERWAY. AND FREEMAN LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE KIND OF CONFUSED, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S A 30 DAY COOLING OFF PERIOD BETWEEN. SO AIC IS WORKING TO HELP THAT SO THAT SMALL COMMUNITIES CAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, THESE QUALIFIED WORKERS AND BRING THEM INTO THEIR COMMUNITIES. SO THAT'S GREAT. THE OTHER PIECE THAT REPRESENTATIVE TINA FROM POCATELLO AND MAYOR BLAD FROM POCATELLO HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD ON IS ALLOWING CITY EMPLOYEES TO BE INCLUDED IN THE STATE POOL FOR INSURANCE. AND THE STATE POOL OF INSURANCE IS MANAGED VERY WELL. AND AT THIS TIME, RIGHT NOW, WITHIN THAT THAT STATE LAW, IT THE WORD MUNICIPALITIES DOES NOT IS NOT INCLUDED. SO MUNICIPALITIES CITIES CANNOT JOIN THE PROGRAM. AND SO REPRESENTATIVE CHEATHAM IS WORKING HARD WITH MANY OTHERS IN THE LEGISLATURE FROM OUR DISTRICT TO ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES TO BE INCLUDED IN IN THE STATE INSURANCE POOL. IT'S FIGHTING AGAINST THAT. THE FREEDOM PACKAGE. YEAH. AND TRIPLE A, WHICH INSURES SMALL IDAHO CITIES. THIS IS THIS PLAYED OUT LAST SESSION AND BUT IT NEVER GOT ANYWHERE EVEN THOUGH ALL OF THE POLITICS PLAYED OUT THE BILL NEVER MADE IT OUT OF STATE AFFAIRS. AND WHICH WAS THE COMMITTEE TO WHICH SPEAKER MOYLE ASSIGNED IT. BUT WE LEARNED TODAY THAT WHEN THE WHEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WENT THROUGH, IT WAS ASSIGNED TO THE BUSINESS COMMITTEE OR BUSINESS AFFAIRS OR WHATEVER THE OFFICIAL NAME IS, AND THERE WAS SOME FRUSTRATION WITH THIS, I SENSED THERE WAS SOME FRUSTRATION IN THE ROOM THAT THE SPEAKER WOULD BE PUSHING IT TO STATE AFFAIRS RATHER THAN TO BUSINESS. AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THE FREEDOM FOUNDATION COMES IN, BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN MAYBE WHISPERING IN THE SPEAKER'S EAR ABOUT HOW THEY WANTED IT TO GO THERE, AND THEN IT WENT THERE TO DIE. SO WE MAY ANTICIPATE THE SAME ASSIGNMENT THIS YEAR OR NOT. JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH WAY THE POLITICAL WINDS ARE BLOWING. IT COULD BE THAT THE FREEDOM FOUNDATION HAS OTHER, OTHER FISH TO FRY, YOU KNOW, AND DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THIS BILL SO MUCH THIS YEAR. AND AIC DIDN'T TAKE A POSITION ON THAT LAST YEAR, LAST YEAR. MAYBE THEY DO TAKE A POSITION THAT WILL HELP BE DIFFERENT. LAST YEAR THEY WERE THEY WERE NEUTRAL BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT WAS THAT SOME SMALL CITIES MIGHT BE HURT. IF ARIA LOSES SOME MEMBERSHIP, THEN THERE'S POOL WOULD BE SMALLER AND THEY MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, ADVERSE EFFECTS WITH A SMALLER POOL. BUT THE ARGUMENT THAT SWAYED THE DAY WHEN AND COUNCILOR FRANCIS MAY REMEMBER THIS DIFFERENTLY OR BETTER THAN I DO. BUT WHEN THE AIC BOARD HAD ITS MEETING IN OCTOBER, POCATELLO WAS ABLE TO SWAY THE BOARD BY SAYING, THIS IS AN OPT IN POLICY. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CREAMING OFF A BUNCH OF CITIES, THE CITIES WHO ARE GOING TO BE BETTER OFF UNDER A STATE PLAN. WE'LL HAVE TO DO THE WORK AND DETERMINE IF THEY REALLY ARE DO THE DO THE CRUNCH, THE NUMBERS TO SEE THAT THEY ARE. AND NOT EVERY CITY IS GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN JOINING. AND IT REALLY IS A PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A VERY SMALL EFFECT. BUT FOR THOSE IN THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THINGS. BUT FOR THOSE WHO DO JOIN, WE'LL HAVE A HUGE IT COULD HAVE A HUGE SAVINGS EFFECT. AND IDAHO FALLS IS ONE OF THE CITIES PROJECTED TO HAVE A REASONABLY POSITIVE IMPACT FROM THIS. POCATELLO HAS RUN SOME NUMBERS THAT ARE REALLY WILD, LIKE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, YOU WOULD HAVE SAVED $10 MILLION LAST YEAR WHEN THE SOME OF THOSE PROJECTIONS WERE COMING FROM POCATELLO ABOUT IDAHO FALLS. DARREN, OUR HR DIRECTOR, MR. JONES WAS OR DIRECTOR JONES WAS A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE IN HIS ESTIMATES OF THE IMPACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE. NEVERTHELESS, IT COULD BE EXCITING FOR US. WE COULD SEE GOOD COVERAGE FOR VERY LITTLE OR FOR LESS COST EASILY. YES. ANYBODY HAVE AN APPETITE TO RESCIND SOME OF THE TAX CUTS THEY MADE LAST YEAR? THERE WAS ACKNOWLEDGMENT TODAY [02:00:01] OF THE WE CUT TOO MUCH THE BUDGET WOES THAT WE'RE IN HAVING TIED DIRECTLY TO THOSE BUDGET CUTS. AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING BECAUSE HOW DO YOU WHO WANTS TO VOTE AGAINST BUDGET CUTS, RIGHT. REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE TO RAISE TAXES. RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT OKAY, SO REPRESENTATIVE FURNACE IS ON THE COMMITTEE. AND HE SAID THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS. HE SAID ONE, WITH THE GOVERNOR'S CUTBACKS, IS THAT THE RIGHT WORD? HOLDBACKS WHATEVER THE EXACT TERM IS, WE'RE GETTING VERY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO WE'RE WITHIN $20 MILLION OR SOMETHING. AND BY THE TIME THE SESSION STARTS, THEY'LL PROBABLY BE OKAY FOR THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. IT'S NEXT YEAR THAT HE'S WORRIED ABOUT. AND HE SAID THAT IT MAY WELL BE THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO DELAY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THOSE CUTS IN ORDER TO, BECAUSE THOSE CUTS ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF WHAT WE MAY BE MISSING, OR THEY'RE STILL NOT THE TOTAL AMOUNT, BUT THEY'RE CLOSE, LIKE YOU SAID, FOR 50, AND WE'RE MAYBE NEEDING 550. BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS AN INTERESTING SET OF COMMENTS THAT HE SAID THEY MAY BE FORCED TO WITHHOLD OR DELAY THE IMPLEMENTATION. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME. DID YOU I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT IS ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES AT ALL OR IS THERE ANY ANY TALK ABOUT THAT? AM I HEARING ABOUT ANY ABOUT IMPACT FEES? I'M THINKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE ORDINANCE A LITTLE BIT TO ADD SOME THINGS LIKE POLICE CARS. YES. BUT I THINK THAT THE BEST THING THAT CAME OUT OF THE LAND USE AND HOUSING COMMITTEE IS THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, THE LEGISLATORS DIGGING IN AND UNDERSTANDING HOW CHALLENGING GROWTH HAS BEEN FOR THESE COMMUNITIES, AND REALLY SEEING HOW IMPORTANT IMPACT FEES ARE AND HOW THOSE ARE PAYING FOR GROWTH. SO I THINK THAT WHERE THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A NERVE RACKING FOR THE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, LIKE, OH MY GOSH, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE CONVERSATION GOING TO BE? BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT LIKE THERE'S POLICY THAT IS COMES DOWN ON CITIES. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO CORRECT SOME BAD BEHAVIOR OR WHATNOT OF CITIES, BUT I THINK IT WAS A VERY EYE OPENING EXPERIENCE THAT CITIES ARE REALLY MANAGING THEIR GROWTH AS WELL AS POSSIBLE. AND IT WAS JUST IT'S ALL ABOUT EDUCATION. SO I FEEL MUCH MORE OPTIMISTIC GOING INTO THIS SESSION WITH HOW CITIES ARE GOING TO BE VIEWED. OKAY. LISA, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU HEARD TODAY THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE? NO, I MEAN, I AM JUST IN AGREEMENT WITH CATHERINE ON THAT, THAT I FELT LIKE THEY. THERE'S EVEN TALK, YOU KNOW, THE TALK OF REDOING SOME OF 89 AND GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT WHILE WE'RE GETTING THESE INCENTIVES TO BRING BUSINESS HERE. AND THEN OUR CITIES ARE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG, NOT HAVING THE TOOLS TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE GROWTH. SO SO THEY JUST HAVE TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT IS IT? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF THE STATE'S GOING TO INCENTIVIZE, TRY AND LOWER TAXES TO BRING GROWTH AND THEN HOLD THE CITIES AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH? YES, EXACTLY. KELLY PACKER WAS WAS THERE TO BE VERY BOLD IN HER LANGUAGE ABOUT 389. BUT I WAS ALSO LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE ON THE HOUSING AND SORRY, NOT INFRASTRUCTURE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE HOUSING. I FORGOT WHAT THE OFFICIAL NAME OF THE COMMITTEE, THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AND THERE WERE IN THEIR FINAL MEETING, THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE, IF NOT FOUR OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO MENTIONED CREATININE AND HOW PROBLEMATIC IT WAS. SO THEY REALLY GOT AN EARFUL IN THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE MEETING. ONLY SIX LEGISLATORS SIT IN THERE. BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT'S IT WAS GRATIFYING TO HEAR THAT WE'RE NOT CITIES AREN'T THE ONLY ONES WORRIED ABOUT THIS. AND IT'S WELL RESPECTED LEGISLATORS AND VERY WELL RESPECTED COMMUNITY LEADERS FROM AROUND THE STATE AND MAYORS AND AND FOLKS ARE TALKING ABOUT SOLUTIONS AND NOT NOT CRITICIZING THE CITIES DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS. IT ALL FEELS REALLY GOOD. SO YEAH, I'M SURE WE'LL SEE, YOU KNOW, A FEW GOOFY THINGS, BUT IT FEELS VERY OPTIMISTIC. SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING. AND I THOUGHT BASED ON THAT, WE WENT AROUND THE ROOM AND THERE WERE WE HAD AS MANY AS, I THINK 12 OR 13 LEGISLATORS IN ATTENDANCE TODAY. BUT WHEN WE WENT AROUND THE ROOM, I THINK THERE WERE ONLY ABOUT NINE OF THEM REMAINING. BUT IT WAS RICK CHEATHAM, REPRESENTATIVE CHEATHAM, WHO SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF. SAID, THERE ARE, HE SAID MEDICAID EDUCATION AND THE BUDGET ARE GOING TO BE [02:05:02] THE THREE BIG ISSUES. OTHER ISSUES MIGHT GET PUSHED TO THE SIDE OR OR PUSHED TO THE END, OR NOT EVEN CONSIDERED AT ALL. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE THESE THREE ISSUES AND GETTING THOSE FUNDED PROPERLY. THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP THE LION'S SHARE OF THEIR TIME AND ENERGY. AND SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS. IF WE DON'T WANT TINKERING WITH ALL SORTS OF CREATIVE LEGISLATION AND IT'S WORRISOME NEWS IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE REALLY WANT THAT'S NOT PART OF THAT THAT AGENDA. SO BUT IT WAS INTERESTING I WILL SAY THAT THAT INTERIM COMMITTEE HOUSING, HOUSING. I'M GLAD YOU SAID HOUSING COMMITTEE LAND USE AND HOUSING COMMITTEE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVELY WELL RUN INTERIM COMMITTEES THAT I'VE SEEN. THEIR FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AREN'T OUT YET, BUT IT WAS FAIR, BALANCED AND VERY INCLUSIVE. THE NON LEGISLATIVE MEMBERS HAD A VOICE AND WERE ALLOWED TO USE IT. AND AT THE BEGINNING AND AT THE END IN THE PROCESS THEY WEREN'T SHUT OUT OR JUST PATTED ON THE HEAD. IT WAS REALLY IT WAS REALLY NICE TO SEE IT. AND I THINK A BIG PART OF THAT IS OWING TO THE LEADERSHIP. ABSOLUTELY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CATHERINE? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CATHERINE. YOU HAVE AND I'M NOT SURE. COUNCILMEMBER, HAVE I SHARED WITH YOU THE ARTICLE THAT SHE WAS FEATURED IN FROM THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION. THEY DID AN INTERVIEW, Q&A WITH HER BACK AND FORTH ON SOME ISSUES. AND THIS WAS BACK WHEN YOU DID YOUR TRAVEL IN SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER TO DC FOR SOME LOBBYING. WOULD YOU SHARE THE LINK TO THAT WITH THE COUNCIL? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. I THOUGHT MAYBE I'D SHARED IT, BUT PERHAPS I HAVEN'T, SO I'LL SEND THAT TO YOU SO YOU CAN SEND IT OUT. GO AHEAD AND SEND IT DIRECTLY. OKAY, PERFECT. AND THEN MAYBE IF YOU HAVE SEND IT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ELECT BRANDON LEE AS WELL. JUST SO THAT IT CAN BE UNEVEN, BUT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE WE READY TO KEEP GOING OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? I KIND OF TASK BREAK EARLIER. KEEP GOING. JOHN COMES BACK. I'LL TAKE A BREAK. I KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. I LEFT SOMETHING IN MY CAR THAT I NEED FOR MY SLIP OUT AND GRAB THAT. OH, MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A BREAK. ALL ALL RIGHT. HERE WE ARE BACK IN BUSINESS. THE [Mayor, City Council] NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA HAS TO DO WITH ACCEPTING OR ACTUALLY RECEIVING THE MINUTES FROM THE COMMISSION COUNSELOR. FRANCIS, YOU NORMALLY ARE THE ONE TO MAKE THAT MOTION. DO YOU FEEL WELL ENOUGH TO DO IT? I CAN DO IT. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN THAT. I MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION DECEMBER 9TH, 2025. WE HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL LAND USE PLANNING ACT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL. SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE PLENTY OF SECONDS. YOU DIDN'T BREAK THE STREAK THERE. THANK YOU. COUNSELOR FRANCIS, CITY CLERK. WILL YOU CONDUCT A VOTE ON THAT MOTION? FRANCIS A FREEMAN? YES. DINGMAN. YES. LARSON. YES. BRADFORD. ALL MARKDOWN IS OUT. BURTENSHAW. YES. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA HAS TO DO WITH REVIEWING THE 2026 CALENDAR. SO OUR PRACTICE IN RECENT YEARS HAS BEEN TO. MEET WITH A GROUP OF FOLKS WHO HAVE INPUT INTO THE CALENDAR AND HAVE A CALENDARING MEETING. AND WE SET THAT CALENDARING MEETING THIS YEAR FOR DECEMBER 1ST. AND IT WAS SET BEFORE WE KNEW THERE WAS GOING TO BE A RUNOFF. WHEN WE TRIED TO DETERMINE HOW TO SET THAT MEETING AFTER THE RUNOFF, WE RAN OUT OF DATES BEFORE IT BECAME IMPRACTICAL BECAUSE THERE WERE THERE WERE TRAVELS AND OTHER THINGS. AND SO WE KEPT IT ON THE FIRST AND JUST FIGURED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A MORE THOROUGH REVIEW. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW. AND I JUST WANTED TO I MEAN, PRETTY SOON WE'LL GET THE RHYTHM OF THIS. IT MAY SEEM TEDIOUS FOR THE FIRST MONTH OR TWO AND THEN IT'LL START TO FLOW, BUT THERE ARE SOME CASES WHERE WORK SESSIONS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO ACCOMMODATE EITHER TRAVEL MEETINGS THAT MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS GO TO, OR TO ACCOMMODATE A MONDAY HOLIDAY, OR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND SO WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH. BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT. SORRY, LISA, AS MAYOR ELECT HAS SOME INPUTS AS WELL THAT WE SHOULD ALL TAKE NOTE OF. [02:10:06] AND MAYBE YOU'LL ALSO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY IF YOU'VE GOT BLACKOUT DATES OR. IF YOU HAVE BLACKOUT DATES THAT NEED TO BE INSERTED HERE. SO WE UNDERSTAND IF WE ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A QUORUM FOR SOME OF THE MEETINGS. BUT STARTING IN JANUARY, WE GOT THE WORK SESSION ON THE FIFTH AND EIGHTH, WHICH IS JUST PERFECTLY NORMAL REGULAR STANDARD SCHEDULE. AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK, STATE OF THE STATE ON MONDAY. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE PLANNING TO GO TO THAT. AND THEN I SEE YOUA ON THE 13TH, AND THEN MANY OF YOU DON'T TRAVEL HOME THAT NIGHT, BUT YOU COME HOME THE NEXT DAY, HENCE THE THREE DAY BLOCK THERE FOR ICU. MEANWHILE THE MPO IS HAPPENING, IS HAPPENING, SO IT'S KIND OF COOL. LINDA LUNDQUIST IS THE ONE WHO PUT THIS ALL TOGETHER AND IT IS COLOR CODED, BUT I HAVEN'T CRACKED THE COLOR CODING JUST YET ON MY OWN. AND SO JUST NOTE THAT IT'S COLORFUL. AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK IS ONE OF THOSE WEEKS WHERE IT WOULD NORMALLY BE A COUNCIL WEEK, BUT WE HAVE MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON. SO WE ADDED THE WORK SESSION ON THE TUESDAY AND THEN THE GUIDE FOR GREATER IDAHO FALLS ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS IS HOSTING THE STATE OF THE CITY ON THE 21ST. AND THEN, THEN AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON 22ND. NORMALLY THIS IS ALSO AN AIC WEEK, BUT THIS YEAR THE AIC PUSHED IT TO THE FIFTH WEEK. AND SO IT DOESN'T MESS UP OUR MEETINGS OTHER THAN THAT TUESDAY BUMP BECAUSE OF MARTIN LUTHER KING AND SLASH HUMAN RIGHTS DAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S JANUARY. AND LISA, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A DESIRE TO START COUNCIL MEETINGS EARLIER. YES. THE THERE WERE THREE, 6:00 VOTES. THERE WERE A NUMBER ONE AS NUMBER ONE. OH, WOW. YEAH, THERE WAS TWO, 7:00 VOTES. AND AND THE MAJORITY LANDED ON 630 JUST TO KIND OF WAY THAT OUT. SO IT SEEMS LIKE 630 IS THE BETTER TIME. I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE SOME TIME NOW TO DISCUSS WHY LIKE WHY 6:00. WHY 7:00, JUST IN CASE THERE WAS TRUE DISCUSSION ON, YOU KNOW, THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT WANTED TO THROW OUT WHY THEY WOULD PREFER THEIR GIVEN TIME. I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. YEP. BECAUSE I CHOSE 7:00. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO RIDE THE BUS IN FROM THE SITE. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPORTS THINGS WITH THEIR KIDS AND THINGS AND AFTER SCHOOL. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE IT AT 730, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT EARLIER, BUT I THINK ANY EARLIER THAN 7:00 MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT FOR THOSE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT IF THEY WANT TO MAKE IT. SO I JUST THINK IT ACCOMMODATES MORE PEOPLE TO HAVE IT EARLIER. OKAY. AND I'LL THROW OUT, OH GO AHEAD. YEAH. I MEAN THERE'S CASES TO BE MADE FOR ANY OF THOSE TIME SLOTS. I DON'T I, I SETTLED ON 630. I COULD EVEN LIVE WITH SIX. BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF EARLY JUST FOR LOTS OF OTHER REASONS. LIKE LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE 630 SEEMED TO BE A GOOD COMPROMISE. I'M ALSO COGNIZANT OF DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO HAVE TO STICK AROUND FOR MEETINGS AND ALSO, JUST TO SOME DEGREE, FOR THE PUBLIC WHEN MEETINGS TEND TO RUN LATE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETIMES SOME OF THE WEIGHTIER MATTERS GET PUSHED TO THE END BECAUSE THEY TAKE MORE TIME AND YOU END UP WITH FOLKS LEAVING BECAUSE IT GETS SO LATE AND THEY CAN'T STICK AROUND FOR THOSE. SO THAT'S THAT'S A YOU KNOW, THERE ISN'T ONE PERFECT ANSWER. BUT THAT'S HOW I SETTLED ON 630. MY COMMENTS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL TO YOU. YEAH, I THINK IT'S IT'S LATE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE. I'VE YET TO HEAR ANYONE SAY, OH MAN, I'D BE GOING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AT THAT TIME. OR DIFFERENT. I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT IN TEN YEARS. I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARD SOMEONE SAY I'D BE A REGULAR ATTENDEE IF YOU GUYS WOULD, JUST A LITTLE BIT EARLIER OR LATER. I JUST NEVER HEARD THAT. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ONLY TIME THAT WE EVER HEARD ANYTHING IS RELATED TO WORK SESSIONS, BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAVE WORK A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO COME AND ATTEND A WORK SESSION. BUT. SO, YOU KNOW, I PROBABLY HAVE A LITTLE MORE FEEDBACK THERE. BUT I'VE HAD ZERO FEEDBACK ABOUT OUR TIME ON THURSDAYS. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. PEOPLE THAT COME, WE LOSE THEM BY ABOUT 830. AMAN DOES HAVE THEIRS AT 6:00, AND I THINK THAT IT BLENDS INTO THEIR WORKDAY. SO SOMEONE LEAVES WORK [02:15:05] AND GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IT. IT ISN'T GONNA GO HOME. OR IS THE BALL GAME GOING TO START AT 7 OR 8? I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS AS ROUTINE NOW ANYMORE. SO. SO I'M FINE. I WAS I WAS A 6:00, BUT I'M GOOD WITH 630 AS WELL. I, I THINK NOW WE HAVE LIVE STREAM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WATCH CAN WATCH FROM WHEREVER OR WATCH IT LATER. I THINK IF SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME IN AND GIVE TESTIMONY THAT BY THE TIME WE GET AROUND TO IT, IT'S 7:00 ANYWAY. IF WE START AT 630. OKAY, SO 630 START IS YOUR COMPROMISE. COUNCILMEMBER FRANCIS? YEAH, I THINK. I THINK THREE, BECAUSE IT WAS A COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE ARGUMENT OF SIX AND SEVEN, THE ARGUMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE FOR SEVEN. SO IT'S KIND OF A COMPROMISE POSITION BETWEEN THE TWO IDEAS OF STARTING EARLIER. SO WE HAVE EARLIER I THINK IT'S EASIER ON DIRECTORS TO BE ABLE TO START AN HOUR EARLIER, BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL WANT TO GO HOME AND HAVE SOME TEA BEFORE THEY COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING. AND THE WHOLE IDEA IS WE TRY TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR AS MANY PEOPLE TO COME AS POSSIBLE, EVEN IF THEY DON'T COME. OKAY, SO THAT CHANGE WILL BE NOTED I BELIEVE. ALTHOUGH DO WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE IT THEN EFFECTIVE? STARTING THURSDAY THE THE SORRY, THURSDAY THE EIGHTH? OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT EFFECTIVE LATER? I MEAN THERE'S A CLEAN BREAK TO START EVERYTHING IN JANUARY. YEAH, YEAH IT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO BE IT'LL HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL TO BE VOTED ON BEFORE. I MEAN, THE MEETINGS CAN BE NOTICED AT A DIFFERENT TIME AS A NOTE RIGHT NOW. BUT YEAH, FOR THE OFFICIAL CHANGE, IT'LL HAVE TO BE AFTER. SO I BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN BOUNDS TO DIRECT GIVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF IN THIS CASE, SOMEONE FROM YOUR STAFF PREPARE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE. I'VE DONE THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF MEETING. I'VE GOT IT DRAFTED. READY TO GO. OKAY, WELL, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF NEW BUSINESS ON THE EIGHTH. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START AT 730 ON THE EIGHTH. OKAY. SO START AT 730 ON THE EIGHTH. IS THAT ARE THERE ANY IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAYS IT HAS TO WAIT 30 DAYS BEFORE IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO. NOT ANYTHING. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M OF TWO MINDS. WE COULD, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE UNTIL THAT NIGHT, WE COULD STILL START THAT NIGHT EARLIER. IF YOU FEEL THERE'S A NEED FOR A NEED TO DO IT, CAN YOU JUST CALL A SPECIAL MEETING? YEAH. DO YOU THINK IT'S SMARTER TO START JANUARY WITH NEW TIMES THAN TO WAIT UNTIL SOME CHANGING OF THE GUARD? I DON'T THINK IT REALLY, REALLY MATTERS. YEAH, OKAY. WHAT ABOUT A PREFERENCE A OR B I JUST DON'T. YEAH I DON'T KNOW IF I CARE. I LOOK AT YOUR AGENDA FOR THE EIGHTH AND SEE WHAT 630 ACCOMMODATES IT BETTER. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SO CAN I CLARIFY. ARE WE GOING TO PUT THIS THE ORDINANCE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE EIGHTH TO BE VOTED ON? OKAY I'LL GET ADDED. SO IS THAT A MEMO FROM YOUR OFFICE EMILY OR MINE OKAY. OKAY THEN IS THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES WITH THE MEETINGS IN JANUARY? ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST NOTE THAT IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO ICU, CONTACT LINDA. IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO TO AIC EVENTS, LET CARLA KNOW AND THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF THE REGISTRATION. ALL RIGHT. FEBRUARY, IS THERE ANYTHING UNUSUAL THERE? YES. YOU SEE THAT? BECAUSE THERE IS THE APA LEGISLATIVE RALLY THAT THE WEEK OF THE 22ND THROUGH THE 20 OR THE 22ND THROUGH THE 25TH, IT PUSHED. A THE COUNCIL MEETING. SORRY TO THE 17TH AND 19TH AND THINK THAT IT WOULD BE THE 16TH AND 19TH, BUT 16TH IS PRESIDENT'S DAY SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE. IT'S A DOUBLE WEIRD MONTH BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT BACK TO BACK COUNCIL MEETINGS AND YOU'VE GOT A MONDAY BOUNCE. YES, COUNCILOR. I MEAN DIRECTOR PROMOTED I LIKE IT. AND THE IDA BOARD MEETING THAT MONTH WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE WORK SESSION. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THREE MEETINGS IN A SHORT WEEK. OKAY. THERE'S A NOTE DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CALENDAR ABOUT THAT. OKAY. SO WE WILL IT WILL ONLY BE ITEMS THAT ARE NECESSARY OKAY. SO AND THAT'S [02:20:06] WHY IT DOESN'T HAVE A SEPARATE TIME OKAY. SO MUCH LIKE WE DID THIS MONTH. IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY I DO HAVE THERE'S MAYBE SOMETHING FOR THIS MONTH I WONDER I DIDN'T SEE THE NOTE ABOUT THE IDA BOARD MEETING, BUT COUNCILMEMBER FRANCIS AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT ON HAVING NOT HAVING BACK TO BACK, TRYING TO TO ALLEVIATE AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE. SO I WAS WONDERING ABOUT NOT ATTENDING APA, JUST HAVING FREEMAN AND RADFORD, WHO ARE ALREADY SCHEDULED TO GO, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A QUORUM AND WE COULD JUST MOVE IT BACK TO THE 23RD AND THE 26TH AND HAVE IT. WOULD, I'M SORRY, VIRTUALLY OR VIRTUALLY. YEAH. JUST JUST TO KEEP KEEP IT CONSISTENT. JUST TRY AS BEST AS WE CAN TO I UNDERSTAND SPRING BREAK, BUT IF WE COULD JUST KEEP IT MORE CONSISTENT AND, AND CONSIDER THAT THE FIRST WORK OF THE DAY IS CITY COUNCIL AND THAT THE TRAVEL AND THE TRAINING AND ALL OF THAT IS CAN BE WORKED AROUND. BUT THAT'S THE SECOND. THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE PERSONALLY FOR FEBRUARY. SO, JOHN, YOU SAID THAT WORKS FOR YOU ON TRAVEL. THE TRAVEL IS GENERALLY NOT AT NIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET TO THE COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN I TRAVEL, WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS. APA VARIES. SOMETIMES THEY WILL HAVE EVENTS OR APA APA EVENTS ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY EVENINGS, SUNDAY, MONDAY, TUESDAY EVENINGS. AND SO IT IT WILL MAKE IT UNPREDICTABLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRAVELING TO NECESSARILY GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL WEIGH IN ENJOY VIRTUALLY. I JUST THINK I DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH IT TO SWITCH OUT BECAUSE I THINK OUR PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY'RE PLANNING EVERY OTHER WEEK. SO WHEN WE SWITCH IT, I THINK WE LOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT IT. THE MONDAY IS THE BIGGER CONCERN THAN THURSDAYS BECAUSE WE'D BE BACK. YEAH, YOU'D BE BACK ON THE 26TH ANYWAY. SOMETIMES, I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON TRAVEL. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S MY TAKE. AND YOU CAN KEEP A MONDAY WORK SESSION INSTEAD OF A TUESDAY. YEAH. TOO LATE TO GET ANYTHING ON ANYWAY. SO THE ONLY RISK YOU RUN IS IF SOMEONE IS ILL AND YOU GO OUT OF TOWN, ONE PERSON GETS SICK, THEN. THEN YOU ARE ABSENT A QUORUM. AND SO THAT WAS THE THAT WAS SORT OF ALONG THE LINES OF THE SAFETY THINKING. I MEAN, SAFE THINKING, CONSERVATIVE THINKING, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. BUT EITHER WAY, WE COULD PUT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK ON THE 26TH. OKAY, COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 26TH. AND DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THE WORK SESSION TO THE FROM THE 17TH TO THE 23RD? YEAH, THAT'D BE MY PREFERENCE. OKAY. THAT MOVES AND THEN. DIRECTOR TURNER. COULD YOU COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE. NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A BOARD MEETING JUST TO HAVE A MORNING WORK SESSION. WAS IT BEING MOVED TO THE WORK SESSION ON THE 17TH? IS MOVING TO THE 23RD RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, THE IDA PORTION OF IT, IT WAS NORMALLY IN THIS MONTH HAVE BEEN ON THE 25TH. SO WE'LL JUST DO IT ON THE 23RD. WELL, HE WAS TRYING TO BE ACCOMMODATING, BUT IN FACT THERE HASN'T BEEN AN IN-PERSON IDA BOARD MEETING THEN THERE WILL NOT HAVE BEEN SINCE FOR BETWEEN OCTOBER AND TODAY. THE. WELL, YEAH. GOING ALL THE WAY TO IN-PERSON, GOING ALL THE WAY TO APRIL. THAT'S A LONG STRETCH TO NOT HAVE A MEETING AT THE AIRPORT. THERE'S A MEETING IN OCTOBER, RIGHT, OCTOBER TO APRIL WITHOUT A BOARD MEETING. AND SO MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD CHANCE TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR BOARD. LET'S CALENDAR IT. AND THEN IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT, WE WILL CHANGE IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR AND EXPECT IT. WHAT DAY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IT ON? WELL, YOU'D STILL BE GONE THE WEDNESDAY ON THE 18TH, THE 25TH, 25TH. SO IT'D BE COUNCIL. IDA 23RD WORK SESSION. NO IDEA. 25TH. YEAH. SO NOTHING ON THE 17TH FOR WORK SESSION. NOTHING ON THE 19TH FOR WORK SESSION OR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 23RD. DO YOU HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THE 25TH? YOU HAVE AN IDA BOARD MEETING, AND ON THE 26TH YOU HAVE CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN IS IT FAIR TO SAY IN THAT YOUR TAKE ON THINGS WAS WHENEVER YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MATERIAL TO MAKE A [02:25:07] ROBUST BOARD MEETING, YOU WILL LIKELY CANCEL THE BOARD MEETING AND MOVE YOUR ITEMS TO COUNCIL WORK SESSION FOR DISCUSSION. I MEAN, LIKE WE DID TODAY, THAT HAS BEEN OUR OUR PRACTICE. I THINK THAT WILL TAKE SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN MAYOR AND MYSELF. BUT OKAY, IT DOESN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE TO ME THAT FOR 25 MINUTES OF DISCUSSION ON THAT'S NOT A GOOD USE OF ANYBODY'S TIME, OR TO TRY TO HAVE A MEETING AND COME UP WITH THINGS TO HAVE ON THE AGENDA, IT'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION. COUNCIL MEMBER. ALL RIGHT. LAST MEETINGS WE LIKE. MARCH COUNCIL FIRST COUNCIL WEEK IS A REGULAR ONE IFP ON THE ON THE WEDNESDAY THE NEXT WEEK THE 15TH THROUGH THE 21ST. I DON'T KNOW WHAT FFL 8 TO 1 P.M. IS. DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS? NO. FRIENDS FRIENDS FRIENDS FOR LEARNING. I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY'RE ON THE OFFICIAL. YEAH. NOT EITHER. THEY USUALLY JUST. ALL RIGHT. THEY'RE HALF HOUR TRAFFIC. OKAY, SO IGNORE THE FFL. AND THEN THAT AIRPORT TRAVEL IS. IS THAT JUST YOURS, DIRECTOR? OR IS THAT YOU AND A BOARD MEMBER? POTENTIALLY THE MAYOR? THAT'S THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF AIRPORT EXECUTIVES AND AIRPORTS COUNCIL INTERNATIONAL LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE. YES. OKAY. YEAH. THE ACRONYM IS WRONG. THERE WAS CONFUSING TO ME. SO THAT MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. EVERYONE SAYS AIRPORT HCI AND DC. I THINK THAT WAS A WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. ANYWAY, YOU SEE THAT BEN WILL BE A GOOD WEEK FOR THAT KIND OF TRAVEL TO HAPPEN. DIRECTORS WILL HAVE THEIR FIRST BUDGET MEETING. OH, LET'S GO BACK. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T BUDGET THE. CALENDAR. A BUDGET MEETING FOR THE COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY. BUT THAT TYPICALLY IS WHEN THAT COUNCIL RETREAT HAS HAPPENED IS IN FEBRUARY. SO YOU MAY WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND. AND MAYBE YOU CAN'T DECIDE IT ALL RIGHT NOW. BUT PENNSYLVANIA. MEANWHILE, PAM HAD SET ASIDE MARCH 20TH FOR THE DIRECTOR'S BUDGET DISCUSSION, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THE NEXT WEEK IS SPRING BREAK, AND THAT'S WHY WE KEPT THE WHOLE WEEK WIDE OPEN. AND THAT BUMPED WORK SESSION IN THE CITY COUNCIL TO THE 30TH. AND THEN LOOK AT THAT. THE 1ST OR THE 2ND OF APRIL. SO KNOWING YOUR PREFERENCE FOR NOT HAVING BACK TO BACK MEETINGS, THIS MOST DEFINITELY GIVES US A WEIRD SCHEDULE. IN MARCH AND THREE IN APRIL. AND SO IT'S VERY WEIRD. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SCHEDULE THROUGH SPRING BREAK RUNNING THE RISK OF TRAVEL, OR DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THE WEIRDNESS OR MAKE SOME OTHER CHANGE? WELL, I GUESS IT'S UP TO COUNT COUNCIL TO ME. I MEAN, SPRING BREAK DOES NOT REALLY MATTER TO ME ANYMORE, BUT IT DOES PROBABLY MATTER TO A LOT OF DIRECTORS. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT MATTERS TO ME, BUT ONLY ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE LAST TEN YEARS I'VE ACTUALLY NOT BEEN HERE, SO. BUT I DO THINK IT MATTERS DEEPLY TO DIRECTORS, SO. AND I'D LEAVE IT. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN IF YOU FLIP THE PAGE, YOU SEE THEN THAT THAT COUNCIL MEETING IS ACTUALLY SHOWING UP ON THURSDAY, APRIL 2ND, WHICH IS THE HOLDOVER FROM MARCH. AND NOW GOING INTO THE REGULAR COUNCIL WEEK IN APRIL, YOU'VE GOT THEN THE SIXTH AND THE NINTH WITH THE POWER BOARD ON THE WEDNESDAY, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE OFF WEEK AND THEN YOU HAVE THE WORK SESSION AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 19TH AND EXCUSE ME, 20TH AND 23RD. AND THEN YOU'LL NOTE ALSO SHOWING UP THERE THAT THERE IS A THE BUDGET. AND THE BUDGET KICKOFF WITH ALL DIRECTORS AND COUNCIL COME BY. WE'LL BE ON MAY 1ST. JUST A TINY BIT LATER THAN IN THE PAST. BUT THAT'S ALWAYS. THIS IS MANAGEABLE. SO THEN THAT'S A WEIRD MONTH MOVING THEN TO MAY. YOU HAVE THE [02:30:05] KICKOFF AND THEN THAT WEEK THAT WOULD YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE OUR SECOND WEEK. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT UNTIL THE 11TH AND 14TH THAT WE GET OUR OUR WEEK WITH THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK IS THE OFF WEEK AND THEN THE WEEK. THAT IS OUR FOURTH WEEK. IT HAS THAT FUNNY MONDAY HOLIDAY AGAIN. SO NOW WE'RE 26 AND 28. OKAY. CHANGES THERE. ALL RIGHT. KEEP GOING TO JUNE 26TH OR JUNE OF 2026. AND YOU SEE BECAUSE OF THE AIC ANNUAL TRAINING AND CONFERENCE DURING THAT SECOND WEEK, WE HAD BUMPED THE MEETINGS TO THE FIRST WEEK, THE FIRST AND FOURTH. THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ONE THAT I WOULD MOVE BACK. I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE EIGHTH OR THE 11TH. WE'RE NOT HAVING THAT MANY PEOPLE GO. WHAT? WHAT DID YOU SAY YOU WANTED TO DO? MOVE IT BACK TO THE NORMAL TIME, THE EIGHTH AND THE 11TH, AND DISREGARD THE AIC ANNUAL CONFERENCE. OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE WE ONLY ONLY 1 OR 2 OF US EVER. RIGHT? OKAY. WE CAN DO I AGREE, I DON'T I MEAN, THAT'S AGAIN YOU'RE HAVING COUNCIL MEETING THREE OUT OF FOUR WEEKS, RIGHT? THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS IF WE I MEAN THERE IS THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS. IF WE LOOK IN MAY AND I DID LOOK AT THIS, IF WE MOVED COUNCIL TO THE FOURTH AND THE SEVENTH AND THE 18TH AND THE 21ST, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WE CAN'T BUMP THOSE UP. SO WE DO THE THE SEVENTH, THE 18TH AND THE 21ST. THEN I THINK THAT THE AIC LEADERSHIP ACADEMY IS EVEN LESS WELL ATTENDED THAN AIC ANNUAL CONFERENCE. THEN WE STAY ON AND EVERY OTHER WEEK, AND WE AVOID THE MEMORIAL DAY SHORT WEEK. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. AND THEN YOU JUST GIVE YOURSELF A TWO WEEK WINDOW IN THE MIDDLE OF JUNE, WHICH KIND OF WORKS. WELL, WHEN WAS AP APA? IT'S THE 28TH. SO DO YOU DO YOU STILL WANT TO. OH, THERE IT IS. OKAY. I'M SAYING IT'D BE WE'D MOVE IT TO THE FOURTH AND THE EIGHTH IF MAY. SO IF WE LOOK AT THE MAY 4TH AND THE EIGHTH, FOURTH AND NINTH OR FOURTH AND SEVENTH. YEAH. FOURTH AND SEVENTH. SORRY. FOURTH AND SEVENTH, 18TH AND 21ST. AND THEN WHAT DO YOU DO IN JUNE? NOTHING. AND THEN YOU'D HAVE THAT WHOLE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE FREE CONFERENCE AVAILABLE. THEN YOU LEAVE THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE AVAILABLE. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE MOVING BOTH OF MAY'S WEEKS UP ONE. YEAH. AND NONE OF JUNE'S. SO THEN WE HAVE THE FIRST AND THE FOURTH OF THE 22ND AND 25TH OF JUNE. AND THEN JUNE, YOU GO BACK TO THE EIGHTH AND 11TH AND JUST DISREGARD THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE OR OR NOT. WELL, DO YOU HAVE TWO WEEKS? YOU HAVE A WEEK IN BETWEEN ANYWAY, SO YOU'RE NOT BACK TO BACK. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE WHETHER OR NOT AND AS WE GET CLOSER IT WE CAN MAYBE TWEAK THAT AS WELL. I MEAN IT WHAT IS YOUR PREFERENCE. MY OR ANYONE'S PREFERENCE. I AT LEAST WE'RE NOT BACK TO BACK AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO PUT IT ON A SHORT WEEK. YEAH THAT'S FINE. I THINK HE WANTS TO TALK. COUNCILOR FRANCIS, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ABOUT THAT SCENARIO IN JUNE? YEAH, I LIKE I LIKE THIS IS THAT I THINK THE AIC ANNUAL CONFERENCE ACTUALLY IS FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CITY THAT YOU GET THERE. IT'S PRETTY USEFUL. AND IT'S. YEAH, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO PUT THE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 11TH. HE SAID HE SAID, HE SAID, HE SAID THAT IT'S BECAUSE MORE DIRECTORS GO MORE THAN JUST COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO WE'D LEAVE IT ON THE FIRST, THE FOURTH HAVE THE TWO WEEKS OFF AND HAVE IT ON THE 22ND. 25TH. YEAH, I LIKE THAT. YEAH, YEAH. SO JUNE STAYS AS PRINTED WITHOUT MY SCRIBBLES ON IT. RIGHT. OKAY. I [02:35:01] DO JUST NOTE THAT COUNCILOR FRANCIS IS ON THE BOARD AND SO HE'LL HAVE A SORT OF A COUPLE AN OBLIGATION TO BE THERE. WE ALSO HAVE OUR CITY CLERK WHO LIKES TO GO, AND THIS WOULD PRECLUDE THAT AS WELL, IF SHE HAD TO BE HERE FOR A MEETING. SO IT DOES WORK OUT OKAY. WE'RE MOVING ON TO JULY. I'VE DONE THE FIRST HALF OF THE YEAR, LISA. I'M TIRED OF MY VOICE, SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU. OKAY? SO. I, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AS MANY BUDGET TUESDAYS, BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. SO IT'S PRETTY FAR, PRETTY FAR OUT. IT JUST HAS STARTED TO FEEL OVERWHELMING. I FEEL LIKE WE AREN'T GETTING WE DON'T HAVE COUNTY NUMBERS ANYWAY, SO SO SOME OF THOSE I WOULD TAKE OFF. ONCE AGAIN, THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS WITH PAM, IS WHETHER OR NOT THE TENTATIVE BUDGET. I KNOW WE HAVE BUDGET HEARINGS, SO IF WE COULD DO THE TENTATIVE BUDGET A WEEK EARLIER, OR IF WE HAVE TO HAVE IT ON THE 27TH AND 30TH BECAUSE OF THIS, THEN WE WOULD JUST TRY AND FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE RIGHT NOW, YOU STILL HAVE THOSE TWO WEEKS IN BREAK IN JULY. BUT I JUST THINK WE SHOULD DECIDE FOR SURE NOW SO PEOPLE CAN KNOW WHEN TO TAKE TIME OFF. I THINK WE SHOULD GET RID OF THE BUDGET TUESDAY AT LEAST ON THE 14TH. I THINK THAT THAT AT LEAST OPENS UP ONE WEEK FOR PEOPLE RIGHT NOW TO TRAVEL. SO THE TENTATIVE BUDGET CANNOT BE ADOPTED ANY LATER THAN THE 30TH TO KEEP WITH OUR CALENDAR, BUT IT COULD BE ADOPTED EARLIER THAN THE THERAPY. OKAY, SO I GUESS FOR ME I WOULD JUST SAY TAKE OFF THE 14 FOR SURE. AND THEN IF BUDGET TUESDAYS COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE WORK SESSIONS ON THE MONDAY, THAT WOULD BE FINE. BUT I WOULD FOR SURE AT LEAST REMOVE ONE OF THEM. I'D REMOVE THE ONE ON THE 14TH. OKAY. GREAT. SO YOU JUST DIDN'T HAVE. YOU'D HAVE TWO WEEKS IN BETWEEN. YEAH, YOU'D AT LEAST HAVE JULY 14TH. JUST TAKE I JUST TAKE OFF THE JULY 14TH BUDGET TUESDAY. AND THEN YOU WANT THE ONE ON THE SEVENTH AS PART OF THE SIXTH. SO THAT WOULD BE A BUDGET MONDAY. YES. OKAY. AND THEN THE ONE ON THE 21ST, THERE ISN'T A REFERENCE FOR THE WORK SESSION ON THE 20TH, IF YOU WANT THAT PUSHED TO THE 27TH. I DON'T KNOW. I LEAVE IT ON AS A TENTATIVE. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT SURE YET. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 21ST. YEAH, THE 21ST. YEAH. OKAY I AGREE. HOW EXCITING THAT THE SOFTWARE IS GETTING US TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN DO THE BUDGET IN SHORT ORDER. YEAH. YES. I THINK WE'VE RUN INTO THAT 27. OH YEAH. SEE NOW. I WOULD MOVE. THE WORK SESSION. WELL I GUESS I MEAN. I WOULD PERSONALLY MOVE THE WORK SESSION OFF OF THE 17TH. EVEN THOUGH THAT'S THE UM'S ANNUAL CONFERENCE. OH YOU'RE IN AUGUST. OH SORRY. YEAH. OKAY. MY OWN HEAD JUST PUT ME OVER THERE. EVERYTHING ELSE TO ME. IS EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY WITH WHAT THIS IS IN JULY? I THINK THAT I THINK WE JUST NEED TO DISCUSS MAYBE THE PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES MEETING IF WE GET RID OF THAT BUDGET TUESDAY. BUT YOU STILL HAVE OTHER THINGS HAPPENING. BE NPO MAY OR MAY NOT BE CANCELED. THAT'S HAPPENING. YEAH, I THINK I THINK WE SHOULD. GOOD CALL. MICHELLE. I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THAT MEETING AND TAKE THAT. HAVE THAT FOR THE WEEK OFF, WHICH WEEK? WELL, THE WEEK OF THE 12TH, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES MEETING. YEAH. SO WE'RE GETTING RID OF THAT BUDGET TUESDAY. IF WE GET RID OF THAT BUDGET TUESDAY, WE SHOULD MOVE THE PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES MEETING TO THAT TUESDAY. NO LIMIT IT FROM THAT WEEK. OH YEAH. WHAT WHAT DO YOU WANT. WELL, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE IT. IS THAT THE ANNUAL. YEAH. MEETING? ISN'T THAT WEIRD. WE COULD EVEN HAVE IT LIKE, I MEAN, WE EARLIER THAN WE'VE HAD IT IN THE PAST. WE USED TO HAVE IT IN JUNE AND THEN THIS YEAR, MAYBE LAST YEAR. IT WAS LAST YEAR IT GOT BUMPED. AND THEN THIS YEAR IT WAS IN AUGUST LAST YEAR, WASN'T IT. SEEMS LIKE IT. NO, IT WAS JULY THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO WE'VE GOTTEN RID OF THE [02:40:07] BUDGET TUESDAY ON THE SEVENTH. SO HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HAVING IT ON THE EIGHTH FOR RIGHT NOW? PUBLIC UTILITIES? SURE. YEAH. LET'S JUST TAX. YEAH OKAY. PUBLIC WORKS EIGHT. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD. YES IN JULY OKAY. OKAY. SO ARE WE IN AUGUST. SURE. YOU WANTED TO MOVE THE WORK SESSION ON THE 17TH TO THE 24TH? I WOULD YEAH. WHAT ARE YOU MOVING THERE? I JUST MOVED THE WORK SESSION OFF OF THE WEEK OF THE 17TH. TO THE 24TH FOR DROP IT. OKAY. WHY WAS IT THERE ANYWAY? OH, BECAUSE YOU ASKED. OKAY. THEN WE HAVE THE BREAK ON THE FIRST NATIONAL. I THINK SEPTEMBER LOOKS FINE. OCTOBER LOOKS FINE. LOOKS PRETTY NORMAL. YEAH. DECEMBER IS WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR. DO YOU DO NOVEMBER? WE HAVE THE WHOLE WEEK UP BEFORE CHRISTMAS. YEAH. CHRISTMAS WEEK, I THINK IN NOVEMBER IS THE SAME AS THIS YEAR. OKAY. THE ONLY OTHER THING I PROPOSE IS THAT WE MOVE OUR IDAHO FALLS POWER BOARD TO 8 A.M. WE DO. I LIKE THAT, I KNOW THAT. DIDN'T WE CHANGE IT ORIGINALLY BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF ROTARY? YEAH. AND I GUESS STEVE BAUGHMAN WILL NOT HAVE THE ROTARY CONFLICT AS CHAIR. NO HE IS. WHEN DOES HIS. HE'LL BE DOWN IN JUNE. YEAH. OKAY. SO HE STILL WILL HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY. BUT I THINK WE'LL BE FINE. IT'S 15 MINUTES. IT'S BETTER TO JUST START AT 8:00. LIKE WHY WE CAN WE CAN JUST EVEN. SORRY 15 MINUTES. YOU DON'T GET FOUR HOURS. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH. OKAY. 8 A.M. FOR. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT SEEMS SO MUCH EARLIER, BUT. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE THE FEW DAYS OF THE YEAR I HAVE TO SET AN ALARM? I FEEL AS THOUGH THEN CALENDAR REVIEW IS DONE AND ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE ARE ARE MADE. OKAY. I WAS TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHEN WE HAD THE. UTILITIES MEETINGS. I CAN'T FIND THEM FOR THE 20TH 24 YET. OKAY, THEN WE'LL MOVE TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS. WE'VE GOT THESE THINGS. I CREATED THE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, WEEKLY HANDOUT, BUT I HAVE TO EMAIL IT TO YOU. I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. I LEFT IT IN MY OFFICE, BUT I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SHARE. AND COUNCILOR FRANCIS, I'LL BE PUTTING THIS MATERIAL IN YOUR MAILBOX. THE FIRST ONE IS JUST AN INVITATION TO THE. FIRE STATION NUMBER SIX RIBBON CUTTING ON DECEMBER 22ND, AND THAT WILL HAPPEN AT 10 A.M. I ALSO HAVE IN THERE A BOOKLET THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE IDAHO CONSERVATION LEAGUE, AND IT IS A A REVIEW AND OVERVIEW OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. AND OF COURSE, THEIR CONCERN IS WITH TREATMENT PLANTS THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE THAT MAY BE LEAKING INAPPROPRIATE THINGS INTO GROUNDWATER AND SO AND [02:45:08] POLLUTANTS AND SUCH. AND SO THEY KEEP TRACK OF THOSE THINGS. BUT I FOUND IT TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE IDAHO FALLS. STACKS UP. AND SO YOU'LL WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. IT DOESN'T TAKE VERY LONG TO REVIEW IT AND TO READ WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. AND THEN IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M SURE THAT DIRECTOR FREDERICKSON WILL BE HAPPY TO REVIEW THOSE WITH YOU. WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF ONE REALLY WEIRD VIOLATION WHERE WE WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE FOR A SHORT TIME, BUT WE REPORTED IT BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SELF-REPORT. AND IT WAS SOMETHING I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT IT WAS KIND OF A WEIRD FLUKE. AND IT IT WAS STRAIGHTENED OUT PRETTY QUICKLY. SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THOSE THINGS KIND OF GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A DING IN OUR RECORD HERE, BUT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED. I GOT ONE COPY AND I LOOKED AT IT AND I THOUGHT, WELL, I'M GOING TO MAKE COPIES FOR THE COUNCIL. AND THEN I THOUGHT, WELL, I DON'T WANT TO STAND AT THE COPIER TO MAKE COPIES OF A, YOU KNOW, 30 PAGE DOCUMENT. SO I CALLED UP THE IDAHO CONSERVATION LEAGUE AND THEY HAD EXTRAS AND THEY SENT THEM TO ME. SO YOU NOW HAVE YOUR OWN LITTLE COPY OF THAT. AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL JUST MENTION THE SIMPLE THINGS ABOUT THIS WEEK BEING THAT WE HAVE. TRAVEL TOMORROW AND. FOR THE MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT, FOR THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, IF ANYBODY IS PLANNING TO GO TO THAT. AND YEAH, I THINK IT'S JUST COUNCILOR FREEMAN AND MYSELF. I'M NOT GOING. YOU'RE NOT GOING. I'M ON MY OWN. SOMETHING'S COME UP. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN ON THURSDAY WE HAVE COUNCIL MEETING HERE. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE A AN APPEAL COMING THROUGH OF AN IMPACT FEE. THAT IS PRETTY INVOLVED. AND SO I WOULD DON'T BRING A SLEEPING BAG BUT MAYBE BRING SOME STRING CHEESE AND A COOKIE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK, A LONGER MEETING THAN ANY OF US BARGAINED FOR. I, I HAD MY OWN LITTLE PERSONAL. MOMENT OF IMMATURE BEHAVIOR WHERE I WAS LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS MEETING ON THURSDAY NIGHT. IT'S BEFORE THE HOLIDAY. I'M TIRED. IT'S A LONG WEEK, BUT WE GOT IT, SO WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT APPEAL ON THURSDAY. AND THEN ON FRIDAY NIGHT IS THE LIGHT PARADE, AND THAT CONVENES AT 6 P.M. AT SEVEN, SEVEN, SEVEN, OKAY, AT WHATEVER THE PARK IS CALLED, THE PARK. THANK YOU. YES. FREEMAN PARK, I SHOULD KNOW THAT NAME NOW. BACKWARDS. SORRY. SORRY, JIM, WILL YOU BE BACK FOR THE FOR THE PARADE WITH YOUR. NO. OH, NO. I'M SORRY. I'M MISSING IT. OKAY. AND SO I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING THAT I HAD. I HOPE I'LL SEE YOU AT THE RIBBON CUTTING. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE NEXT MORNING, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO JOIN IDAHO FALLS. POWER IS NOT HAVING THE THE FOOD WITH THE BARBECUE. FOREMAN DIDN'T FEEL LIKE HE COULD YOU KNOW. YEAH. TRY TO COMPETE WITH THEIR BARBECUE. SO THEY'RE HAVING I THINK A BREAKFAST ON THE 23RD FOR THEIR AWARD CEREMONY. IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GO TO THAT, JUST LET STEVEN KNOW IN THE WAREHOUSE. I THINK I'M ASSUMING IT'LL BE I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. IT MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT LOCATION THIS YEAR. AND THEN ALSO ON MONDAY, ON THE AFTERNOON OF THE 22ND, WE ARE WE ARE SWEARING IN SOME POLICE OFFICERS. SO IF YOU'RE IN TOWN YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT. THOSE ARE ALWAYS SUPPORTED. 4 TO 530 STARTS AT 8 A.M. REALLY QUICKLY. MAYOR. YEAH, WE ALSO HAVE A DINNER TONIGHT. YEAH, YEAH I SAW THAT ON THE CALENDAR. SO I THINK THAT'S A 630. SO I THINK I'M DONE REVIEWING THINGS FROM MEMORY. AND SO WE'LL JUST GO AROUND THE ROOM AND WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL PRESIDENT. NOTHING. DINNER TONIGHT AT 630. I THINK WE SHOULD GO. IT IS AN HONOR AND YOU DESERVE IT. AND SO WE WILL BE ON TIME. SO I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THIS, BUT MICHELLE HAD SAID THAT THE WHOLE POINT POINT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MORE FUN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. YES. OR MORE NERVOUS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO. WELL, JUST THE SAFETY. THE SAFETY, BUT NO WORRY. COLUMNS. LAST DAY. THAT DAY. THAT'S RIGHT. IT IS RORY COLLINS RETIREMENT. NOTHING FOR ME. OKAY, COUNSELOR. I'LL BE. I'LL BE REALLY FAST. THE WATER TANK IS HAS ONE MORE CHECK MARK IT NEEDS, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO. IT'S GOT WATER IN IT, BUT THEY FOUND [02:50:01] A COUPLE OF LITTLE PROBLEMS. AND THE. WHAT IS IT? I THINK HE SAID THE FIFTH IS WHEN THE CONTRACT STARTS TO TAKE DOWN THE OLD WATER TANKS. OH HOW EXCITING. OKAY, SO APPARENTLY THEY'LL HAVE THEY'LL HAVE IT DONE BY THAT. HE'S MEETING WITH LAS VEGAS ABOUT. OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON. I THINK WE SHOULD GET THE JANUARY 5TH. SO PHOTOGRAPHERS HAVE THEIR CARD. THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO FOR THE WATER TOWER JANUARY 5TH. SO THE PEOPLE KNOW IT'S THEIR LAST CHANCE TO TAKE THE TROOPS. YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE KIND OF KIND OF WE'RE KIND OF COORDINATE THAT ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. AND THEN DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE? AND THEN COUNCILOR FRANCIS, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SHARE? NO. KIRK. DID PUBLIC WORKS DO GOOD? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LOVE YOU. WELL, WITH THAT, I THINK I ASK ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION WHILE WE'RE STILL ON THE RECORD. THE MEETING TIME FOR JANUARY 8TH IS THAT REMAINING 730. IT IS NOT CLEAR YET. I'M GOING TO EXAMINE THE AGENDA. OKAY. OH THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S PRETTY LATE RIGHT NOW. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN THE MEETING. T * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.