Oct 20, 2025 City Council Work Session

[Call to Order and Roll Call]

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EVERYONE. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START OUR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS OUR WORK SESSION. LESS FORMAL. AND WE'RE GOING TO CALL OURSELVES TO ORDER AND INVITE THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL TO ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM. COUNCIL PRESIDENT BURTENSHAW HERE.

COUNCILOR RADFORD. PRESENT. COUNCILOR. DINGMAN HERE. COUNCILOR. FREEMAN HERE, COUNCILOR. FRANCIS HERE. COUNCILOR LARSON HERE. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. WONDERFUL.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU'LL NOTE TO THAT WE HAVE ITEMS. SORRY. WE HAVE TWO SESSIONS TODAY. WE'VE GOT OUR WORK SESSION. AND THEN WHEN THAT CONCLUDES, WE'LL GO INTO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. AND IT IS TIME TO RATHER DELICATELY, IN THE SENSE THAT OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL START AT 5 P.M.

STRAIGHT UP. AND SO IF WE'RE NOT DONE IN HERE, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK. BUT IF WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE TIME, I THINK WE CAN WRAP UP WHAT WE NEED TO IN HERE AND JUST GO INTO THAT SESSION AND BE ABLE TO ADJOURN FROM THERE AND GO HOME, WHICH IS SORT OF THE INTENT IF WE CAN KEEP WITH OUR SCHEDULE. AND SO THESE TIMES HERE, EMILY AND I FELT THEY WERE FAIRLY GENEROUS.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT'S THE CASE AND THAT WE'LL EVEN MAYBE HAVE A BREAK IN BETWEEN THE TWO

[Community Development Services (CDS)]

SO I JUST SAY ALL THAT BECAUSE 100 IS A STANDARD, EVEN THOUGH IN THE CODE THAT WE PROPOSED, WE PROPOSED A 450 FOOT SEPARATION FROM THE RIVER AND FROM THE RIVER. SO ANYWAYS, AND HE LOOKED OVER WHAT OUR PROPOSED CODE WAS. HIS NAME WAS JOHN. I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU HIS NAME AT DEQ. HE LOOKED OVER IT. HE SAID EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED MEETS WHAT WE WOULD REQUIRE FOR DEQ. FOR EXAMPLE, THE HARD SURFACE OF PROCESSING AUTOMOBILES. THEY DO REQUIRE A PERMIT FOR TIRE STORAGE. I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP ON THURSDAY THAT THAT PERMIT IS OVERSEEN BY THEM. THEY DO COORDINATE. CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY IN THE CITY. SO WE SAID WE COORDINATE THAT WITH BONNEVILLE COUNTY. IN GENERAL.

WE DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ON EACH SALVAGE YARD AND EACH SITE. WE DO DO MORE THAN THAT. WHEN THERE'S A REQUEST OR IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT. SO SO MOSTLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY OF THEM, HE SAID. 100 FOOT SEPARATION. AND THEN WE HAVE A FULL PERMIT TO MITIGATE ANY PROBLEMS THAT WE MAY HAVE. I'LL CLICK THROUGH THESE VERY QUICKLY. THIS IS THE CODE THAT THAT IS PROPOSED. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW ON THURSDAY NIGHT WITH THE

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AND IN BETWEEN YELLOWSTONE HIGHWAY. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE INDUSTRIAL AND THE EXPANSION OF INDUSTRIAL, THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE PLACE UP HERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

SO IF WE DID HAVE SALVAGE YARDS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WOULD PROBABLY EXPAND IF THEY WERE TO EXPAND UP ON THE NORTH SIDE. RIGHT? I ASSUME IS HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE TRANSECT. SO THIS IS JUST PURELY COMMERCIAL. OKAY. LIKE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL. THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD QUESTION. SO THESE ARE LIKE URBAN. SO THIS IS RESIDENTIAL. THIS IS OUR NUMBERED STREETS RIGHT HERE. SO URBAN CORE RIGHT THERE. THE TRANSECTS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. YES. YEAH. YEAH. THEN THE OTHER AREA AND I HAD ONE OF MY STAFF TURN ON, THEY PUT THE RIVER BUFFER WHICH COMES FROM THE. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEER. THEY, THEY PUT A 750 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE RIVER. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS GREEN LINE IS. SO THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREA IS DOWN ON JUST SOUTH OF SUNNYSIDE ALONG THE RIVER. SO WE DO HAVE AN AREA THAT POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE SALVAGE YARDS IN THEM. I'LL TALK THROUGH THIS A LITTLE BIT THOUGH, BECAUSE I DON'T ACTUALLY SEE THAT AS PROBABLY HAPPENING BECAUSE THE LAND ISN'T THERE. BUT COULD IT GO IN THERE? YES, IN. THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRANSECTS THOUGH, I'M GOING TO HOP BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE ZONING MAP BECAUSE THE CLOSEST AREAS ARE RIGHT HERE AND ARE OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT IS RIGHT HERE, AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY OPEN LAND THAT WE HAVE. THE OTHER ONE IS THIS ROCK PIT THAT'S UP HERE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE YELLOWSTONE.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT THE TRANSECT SHOWS. THE TRANSECT ACTUALLY SHOWS THIS AREA UP TO THE NORTH. IF THERE WAS A REZONE REQUEST, WE WOULD GUIDE THEM TOWARDS A COMMERCIAL USE, MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USE, NOT AN INDUSTRIAL USE. SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, IF THAT QUARRY PIT EVER WERE TO REDEVELOP AND THEY REQUESTED SOMETHING COMING IN, WE WOULD GUIDE THEM TOWARDS A COMMERCIAL USE. THE OTHER ONE IS THE THE OPEN LAND THAT WE HAVE DOWN HERE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HOUSE A, A SALVAGE YARD IN THIS TRANSECT, THIS PURPLISH, IT'S HARD TO SEE.

IT'S PURPLISH BLACK IS ACTUALLY A SPECIAL USE TRANSECT. AND THE REASON IT'S A SPECIAL USE IS BECAUSE THAT HOUSES OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT. SO REALLY ONLY THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT WILL BE THERE. THE ONLY OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREA IS THIS AREA UP HERE. YOU HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH ASSEMBLAGE OF PIECES UP THERE, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR A SALVAGE YARD TO GO IN ALONG THE RIVER. SO I JUST SAY THAT IF WE WERE EVER TO. SO GOING BACK TO THE ZONING, REALLY THE MAIN AREAS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD HAVE CONFLICT WITH SOME TYPE OF WATER RATE WATERWAY IS DOWN IN THIS AREA. THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA UP HERE IS GOING TO GO COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL. BUT THIS AREA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT POTENTIALLY YOU WOULD NEED SOME TYPE OF BUFFER ON. AND YEAH. SO 750FT FROM THE RIVER OR ITS TRIBUTARY LIKE IT'S INTERESTING THAT THAT SECTION THAT'S RIGHT HERE WITH THE, THERE'S ANOTHER CHANNEL THAT KIND OF COMES OFF AND THEN THE GREEN LINE THAT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THAT. YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT THE FLOODPLAIN. IT'S JUST THE BUFFER THAT THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS GIVES US.

YEAH. WHAT IS THEIR PURPOSE FOR THAT BUFFER. DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY NEED WHAT THEY'RE IN CASE IN CASE IT EVER FLOWS OVER ITS BANKS EARLIEST. AND THAT YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THE MOVEMENT OF STRUCTURES DOWN THE RIVER LIKE PICK THINGS UP BUT BASED ON FLOOD ZONES. YEAH. SO WE ONE ONE THING THAT WE CAME IN WITH HERITAGE PARK, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR SOME

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BUT YOU COULD STILL BUILD AS LONG AS IT'S FASTENED TO THE GROUND. BUT IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CARRIED AWAY BY THE WATER, THAT'S WHY I SAY ANY WORD, DOC OR OTHER CITIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ANY RESTRICTIONS ON DENSITY OF, OF THE, OF SALVAGE YARDS OR. NO OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. NO. THERE'S WAS JUST REALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD AT THE HEIGHT OF STACKING WAS REALLY WHAT IT WAS. IT'S WHAT THEY HAD. BUT NO, NOT IN TERMS OF DENSITY. YEAH. SO THAT'S JUST FROM MY LITTLE INVESTIGATION INTO THIS. AND SO GOING BACK AS THE AS I SAID, HE SAID, YOU'RE WHAT YOU HAVE IS MORE COMPREHENSIVE THAN A LOT OF THE ZONING I'VE SEEN. AND YOU WOULD MEET ALL OF OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR DEQ. SO SO I GUESS NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. IF YOU WANT ANYTHING CHANGED FOR THURSDAY. BECAUSE IF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING ALREADY MEETS OR EXCEEDS WHAT DEQ HAD RECOMMENDED, THEN ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT WOULD NEED TO BE PUT IN NOW. OTHERWISE IT WILL JUST PASS WHAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE US LAST TIME, WHAT WE HAD TABLED. I HAVE A QUESTION WITH WHAT OTHER PEOPLE GO FOR IT. SO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS LET'S DO 750 JUST LIKE WE DO THE RIVER. BUT WHAT IS A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT? AFTER WE JUST HAD OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT TRANSIT TRANSECTS VERSUS ZONING, THAT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD CLARIFIER, COUNCILMAN BRADFORD. WE COULD PUT ON THAT. YEAH, IT'S MEETING RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS SO IT WOULD BE R1 R2, R3, R3 A I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. I DON'T THINK I'D WANT 300 FROM ANY RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD LIVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE DO LIVE AT ONE. YEAH, YEAH. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE DICK AND THE TIRE PERMITS. WHAT DO YOU ANY INSIGHT INTO THAT? LIKE IS THAT WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR OR IS IT THE NUMBER. IS IT DOES. DOES OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT HOW MANY WE GET BECAUSE OF HOW LONG THEY'LL BURN? YEAH. HE HE I MENTIONED THE ONE UP IN BONNEVILLE COUNTY WAS THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE I GUIDED THAT CONVERSATION. AND HE JUST SAID THAT AND I DON'T KNOW THE FIRE CODE. WELL, AND I DON'T MEAN TO QUOTE PAUL ON THIS, BUT HIS FIRST DAY ON THE JOB. RIGHT. SO HE SAID THAT ONE, A LOT OF THOSE ARE IN PROCESS OF BEING RECYCLED. AND SO THEY HAVE THROUGH THEIR PERMITTING HOW MANY THAT CAN BE STACKED AND THEN WHAT THE END RESULT OF THOSE ARE. THEY CAN'T JUST BE STORED FOREVER. NO, THEY CAN'T BE STORED FOREVER AND THEY HAVE TO BE CONTROLLED. AND HE SAID THAT FIRE COMES IN AND DOES LOOK AT THEM AND MONITOR THEM SO THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING TOO HIGH OR TOO COMPACT. AND HAVE WE HAD I MEAN, WE, WE SERVICE THE COUNTY. SO WE HAD FIRES THAT FALLS UNDER BONNEVILLE COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT. SO WE'RE NOT OVER THAT. BUT WE DID HAVE THE ONE DOWN ON SOUTH YELLOWSTONE THAT WHEN THEY STARTED PUTTING TIRES THERE, WE HAD ADDRESSED. SO THERE WAS A LOT. BUT HAVE YOU LIKE IN OUR HAVE WE HAD IDAHO FALLS FIRE. YOU DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A REALLY BIG TIRE FIRE IN OUR HISTORY? YOU'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. THE ONE THAT THE CONCERN IS ALWAYS. MORE. HIGHWAY AND AND AND RIGHT ON THE ROAD RIGHT THERE. YEAH.

OKAY. WELL, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SO ARE WE GOOD TO GO FOR THURSDAY OR ARE WE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES. PROBABLY JUST THE FEEDBACK ON IF WE WANT TO PROTECT RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS THE RIVER WAS THE 300FT. YEAH. OR THE YOU KNOW, THE DISTANCES ADEQUATE. AND IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THEY ARE. SO. YEAH. YEAH. I WOULDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING. I GUESS YOU DON'T THINK WE SHOULD. YOU SHOULD CHANGE THE DISTRICT TO ZONE. WELL, NO, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE SAME 700FT FOR OUR RESIDENCES AS WE WOULD FOR THE RIVER. JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SALVAGE YARD. SO, SO ON LETTER G. BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL CARES. YEAH, SO BRADFORD'S PROPOSING CHANGING LITURGY TO 700FT. YES, JUST TO MATCH THEM. THAT'S WITHOUT.

YEAH. YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST THINK IF WE'RE PROTECTING THE RIVER AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE PEOPLE IN RESIDENCES MAKES SENSE TO ME. SO. OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE. I CAN GET IT. YEAH. AND I MEAN, HERE'S KIND OF WHAT I THINK INDUSTRIAL DOESN'T GO UP AGAINST. IT'S A IT'S A NON RIGHT. IT'S NOT GOING TO PROBABLY. YEAH. LOGICALLY THEY'RE NOT COMPLEMENTARY ANYWAY. BUT SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

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[Municipal Services, CDS, Legal, Mayor's Office]

AND WE HAVE NEXT REPORT FROM MUNICIPAL SERVICES. YOU HAVE A POWERPOINT IN YOUR POSSESSION.

AND PAM IS GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE IN THE STUDY IN PREPARATION FOR ADOPTING A THE NEW IMPACT FEE. EVERYTHING NEW ORDINANCE AND THE NEW STUDY. SO GO AHEAD OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS.

REALLY IT'S MORE OF A HIGH LEVEL. YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE YOU REFERRING TO. SO THIS IS JUST TO DO A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. SO HERE WE ARE. WE'RE IT'S A PROGRESS UPDATE. WE DO HAVE A DRAFT IMPACT FEE STUDY. IT ACTUALLY IS DATED OCTOBER 7TH.

AND THANK YOU TO OUR CONSULTANT COLIN. HE'S NOT ON US ON WITH US TODAY. BUT HE HAS BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN INCORPORATING ALL THE FEEDBACK AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING ON THE IMPACT FEE STUDY ITSELF TO DO OUR UPDATE. WE ALSO DID. IT'S INCLUDED IN THE STUDY TRANSITION OF RESIDENTIAL. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF SINGLE FAMILY DEFINITION OF MULTIFAMILY. I THINK YOU REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION. SO WE TRANSITIONED. WE TRANSITIONED INTO A DWELLING UNIT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT STUDY AS WELL. WE HAD ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE FINISHED VERSUS UNFINISHED. AND OUR PRIOR CITY ATTORNEY, MICHAEL KIRKHAM, BROUGHT THROUGH A COUPLE OF DEFINITIONS. HE BROUGHT FORWARD ON JULY 7TH AND JULY 28TH SOME DEFINITIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. THERE WAS CONSENSUS ON THE DEFINITION, AND JUST AS A REMINDER, THE DEFINITION DOES NOT INCLUDE GARAGES. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS.

THOSE WERE ACTUALLY COMPLETED VERY EARLY. A SHOUT OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES. EVERYBODY DID A FANTASTIC JOB IN GETTING THEIR CAPITAL PLANS IN. THEY WERE ACTUALLY DUE AND IN JUNE 23RD.

SO THAT WAS PERFECT TIMING FOR US TO DO A COUPLE REITERATIONS OF THE DRAFT IMPACT FEE STUDY AND THE CALCULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND THEN ALSO AS A REMINDER, THE FUNDING OF THE PURCHASE OF AT LEAST TWO POLICE VEHICLES PER YEAR, THEY WILL HAVE A TEN YEAR LIFESPAN. WE WERE ABLE TO INCLUDE THAT. WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY THOSE UNITS IN OUR ASSET SYSTEM. SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO ONE OF THE UNITS, WE WE CAN IDENTIFY IT VERY ACCURATELY THAT THAT IS A PURCHASE OF IMPACT FEE FUNDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR POLICE UNIT.

THAT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT STUDY. ZACH IS GOING TO GO OVER A LITTLE OF THE FINE POINTS OF THE ORDINANCE. NEXT. YOU ARE FOR THE CURRENT FOLDER. YEAH. SO WHERE DID YOU PICK THAT? OH, THAT'S. OH YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. TO REFLECT THE CHANGES TO SOME OF THE CHANGES MADE IN THE CFP, WE'VE ALSO MADE CHANGES TO THE DRAFT OR TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES, I SHOULD SAY TO THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. I'LL JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THOSE REALLY QUICKLY. THEY'RE BASICALLY TO IMPLEMENT THE DETERMINATION THAT CITY COUNCIL MADE TO GO BY A SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AND THEN TO CALCULATE THE IMPACT FEE ALSO CHANGED, UPDATED SOME OTHER DEFINITIONS TO BETTER MATCH THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE IN IDAHO CODE, AND ALSO REMOVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO YOU SEE I GUESS I GUESS THIS THIS IS CONTROLLING. YEP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST JUST REALLY QUICKLY KIND OF GOING THROUGH THIS IN THE DEFINITION SECTION, JUST BECAUSE WE DEFINED IMPACT FEE STUDY TWICE AT BOTH QUOTES PREVIOUSLY IN SUBSECTION G IT QUOTES AROUND IT. I DON'T LIKE HAVING TWO PARTS WHERE IT'S DEFINED. SO I JUST GOT RID OF THAT. IT'S ALREADY DEFINED LATER ON IN THIS SECTION. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE CHANGES IN SUBSECTION G THERE. SO MOVING ON. CAN WE WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT DO YOU WANT TO JUST CLARIFY THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF THE CONCEPT OF FINDING WAYS FOR

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ALL RIGHT. AND I CAN ALSO REFER TO PAGE NUMBERS ON PAGE SIX OF THE DRAFT ORDINANCE UNDER THE PUBLIC FACILITIES PART. THIS IS WHERE WE TWEAK SOME OF THOSE DEFINITIONS THERE SUBSECTION A AND SUBSECTION C TO BETTER MATCH THE STATUTORY DEFINITION IN THE IDAHO CODE. AND THEN IN THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE CHANGED IT FROM A, YOU KNOW, THE PREVIOUS ANALYSIS NOW A SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE OPERATIVE LANGUAGE BEING IS DETERMINED BY THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A STRUCTURE NOT INCLUDING AUTOMOBILE GARAGES AND ACCESSORY STORAGE STRUCTURES. AND THEN THE THE CHANGE IS ALSO REMOVED. THE PRIOR, YOU KNOW, THE BREAKDOWNS OF SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED MOBILE HOME MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING UNITS. AND THAT'S REFLECTED ON THIS PAGE SEVEN. AND THEN THROUGHOUT YOU'LL SEE LITTLE TWEAKS MADE. AGAIN, THIS IS JUST BECAUSE WE GOT RID OF THE HOUSING UNIT CONCEPT. WE'RE GOING TO A SQUARE FOOTAGE. THERE'S JUST LITTLE STATUTORY TWEAKS THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE FOR THAT. THROUGHOUT. AND THAT'S REALLY IN SECTION FIVE HERE THAT WE GET ANOTHER MAJOR THING. AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE REMOVAL FROM THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PORTION. AND AT THE VERY END. SO THIS IS PAGE 13 AND 14 AND 15. THIS IS WHERE THE PRIOR SPREADSHEET, THAT TABLE THAT SHOWED THE CALCULATION OF IMPACT FEES HAS NOW BEEN PROPOSED TO BE REPLACED BY THE NEW ONE. THAT'S. AS PER THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND THAT'S OUT THERE. SO NOW YOU CAN SEE PREVIOUSLY IT WAS BY HOUSING UNIT WAS BROKEN DOWN, MULTI-FAMILY THAT SORT OF THING. AND NOW IT'S JUST BY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S BROKEN INTO SQUARE FOOTAGE STARTING WITH UNDER 1000 AND THEN GOING IN UNITS OF 500 UP TO 5000. AND THEN IT HAS THE IMPACT FEE FOR THE NONRESIDENTIAL USES THE RETAIL OFFICE INDUSTRIAL. ANY QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT THOSE CHANGES ACCOMPLISH? THAT YOU IF OUR CITY CAN PUT BACK THE POWERPOINT THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION FROM THE IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE. IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD OUR CHAIR, RICHARD STEWART HERE THAT WENT OVER SOME OF THE SOME OF THE DISCUSSION THAT THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD. AND I'M GOING TO GO I HAVE A TABLE FOLLOWING THIS IN A FEW MOMENTS TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME OF THE CONSENSUS ITEMS, BUT WE STARTED MEETING ON THIS IMPACT FEE STUDY BACK IN FEBRUARY, OUR CONSULTANTS ON SITE ON FEBRUARY 28TH, WE KIND OF KICKED IT OFF, AND WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS. SINCE THEN, WE'VE SHARED INFORMATION VIA EMAIL BY LINK,

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WE'VE SHARED THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. WE'VE SHARED THAT WEB PAGE A COUPLE OF TIMES, MOST RECENTLY WITH THE UPDATE THAT WE DID OVER THE WEEKEND. WE DID SHARE IT WITH THE COMMITTEE TODAY. THE INFORMATION WILL ALSO BE SHARED ALONG WITH THE WEBSITE WITH THE EAST IDAHO HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND THE GREATER IDAHO FALLS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATOR INTERACTS WITH. AND SO SHE'S GOING TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM AS WELL. OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL BE INCLUDING THE UPDATED WEB PAGE WITH ITS NEWSLETTER THAT'S COMING OUT. I BELIEVE IT'S NEXT WEEK. AND SO THAT WILL BE THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 27TH. SO THAT'LL BE MORE OUTREACH THERE. AND THEN CDS AND PUBLIC WORKS ARE COLLABORATING, AND THEY'RE TEAMING UP TO HOST DEVELOPMENT. FALL OUTREACH SESSIONS WITH DATES ARE BEING SCHEDULED.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ABOUT MID NOVEMBER. THEY WANT SOME OF THE ACTIVITY CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY TO CALM DOWN A LITTLE BIT, SO WE CAN GET A LOT OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THOSE FALL SESSIONS. AND THEN FINALLY, OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER OFFICE IS DEVELOPING PRESS RELEASES. THEY WILL DO ONE BEFORE THE PNC MEETING THAT WE HAVE, WHICH I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN ALSO THEY HAVE SOME TENTATIVE PLANS TO ISSUE MORE PRESS RELEASES BEFORE THE ACTUAL PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL HAVE ON THIS STUDY AND THE ORDINANCE. AND THEN ONE MORE ITEM THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON A BROCHURE ABOUT IMPACT FEES THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT WHY THE CITY HAS AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE NUANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY NICE. IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SHARED AND HANDED OUT AND AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO IT'S JUST MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT WE'RE DOING. AND THEN FINALLY, JUST THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE THERE WAS CONSENSUS SURROUNDING, FOR THE MOST PART ON THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT, CHANGING THOSE SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY TO A DWELLING DWELLING UNIT DEFINITION THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE DRAFT STUDY THAT YOU HAVE TODAY. AS ZACH MENTIONED, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE DRAFT ORDINANCE WITH PLANS TO INCORPORATE THAT IN WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSIONS ON INCENTIVES, AND THEN OUR CAPITAL PLANS ARE ALL READY TO GO THERE IN THE CAPITAL PLAN AS WELL. YOU'RE SEEING THAT ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE ON JUNE 23RD. AND THEN FINALLY WE HAVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE DEFINITION THAT WAS INCORPORATED, AS ZACH HAD MENTIONED IN THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE STUDY AND THE ORDINANCE. SO WITH THAT, WHAT'S NEXT? SO OUR TIMELINE UPDATE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE HAVING A PNC MEETING AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 5TH. AS YOU REMEMBER, WE USUALLY DO ON TUESDAYS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ON A WEDNESDAY NEXT MONTH. AND THEN WE HAVE AN IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ONE MORE MEETING WITH WITH THE GROUP HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON CURRENTLY SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 18TH AND THEN SCHEDULING TENTATIVE PUBLIC HEARING FOR EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY ON DECEMBER 11TH AND THEN IN EARLY 2026 THAT IT WOULD BE THE IMPACT FEE IMPLEMENTATION DATE. SO WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. SO LET ME COMMENT ON THE SCHEDULE. THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO IT. COUNCILORS. WE HAD ORIGINALLY SPOKEN ABOUT A JANUARY 1ST IMPLEMENTATION DATE. YOU WOULD THINK THAT IF WE COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND A COUNCIL VOTE RIGHT AFTER THAT, THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PUBLISH IT BY TITLE, READ IT BY TITLE, AND PUBLISH IT BY SUMMARY OR WHATEVER IT IS. AND WE COULD BE GOOD TO GO WITHIN A FEW DAYS. BUT THERE IS A PROVISION IS IT IN STATE LAW OR IS IT IN STATE LAW, IN STATE LAW THAT SAYS WE THERE NEEDS TO BE A 30 DAY WAIT PERIOD. SO A 30 DAY, OKAY, YOU

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IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING. ALL RIGHT. SO THERE WE GO. THEN WE'RE LOOKING. AND THEN AT 12, 13, 14, 15, 16TH DECEMBER 16TH WOULD BE THE DAY THAT IT WOULD BE PUBLISHED. 30 DAYS FROM THEN PUTS US INTO THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY. AND SO I THINK THAT PUTS US AT JANUARY 15TH, IF ALL WERE TO GO WELL. SO WE COULD HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION DATE OF JANUARY 15TH, HOW DID WE HOW DID THIS SLIP? IT SLIPPED ONLY BECAUSE AS WE WERE DOING THIS LAST ROUND OF EDITS AND CHANGES AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS NOTIFIED, YOU KNOW, HOLDING OFF UNTIL WE COULD TALK TO IMPACT, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, ETC. PLUS ALL OF THE NOTIFICATIONS REQUIRED FOR GOING TO PNC AND TO COUNCIL AND HAVING THESE VARIOUS HEARINGS, IT'S JUST A LITTLE SLOWER. SO WE THIS IS THE EARLIEST WE COULD HIT IT WOULD BE MID JANUARY. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE AS TO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SOMEHOW CHANGE IT. DOES MID JANUARY REST UNEASY WITH YOU? AND DO YOU LIKE THE CLEANLINESS OF A FEBRUARY 1ST OR SOMETHING? I HAPPEN TO THINK SOONER IS BETTER ONLY BECAUSE WE HAD HOPED FOR JANUARY 1ST, AND SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE COULD JUST HIT IT AS CLOSE TO THAT AS POSSIBLE. I THINK IT JUST GIVES MORE PEOPLE MORE TIME TO GET USED TO IT. BUT I THE ONLY THING THAT I WELL, THERE'S I HAVE I HAVE TWO COMMENTS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE.

FIRST, IF WE COULD PUT THE TIMELINE AND THEN AND THEN I'LL ASK THE QUESTION. I MEAN, I JUST WONDER DECEMBER 11TH, I HATE TO SAY THAT THAT'S THE HOLIDAYS, BUT IT'S IN BETWEEN THE HOLIDAYS. AND SO I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET LOST. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST SAYING THE PUBLIC HEARING IS GOING TO BE JANUARY 4TH. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT PUSHES US BACK AN ENTIRE MONTH. AND SO THEN MAYBE THAT'S NOT WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE THE DEVELOPERS WANT. THEY WANT MORE TIME TO KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I THINK IF THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION UP FRONT THAT THAT IT'S HAPPENING, IT IT DOES NOT BOTHER ME TO PUSH IT BACK AND ALLOW TIME IN THE HOLIDAYS TO NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF A HEAVY. I THINK JANUARY 8TH WOULD BE THE EARLIEST OR THE NEXT POSSIBLE DATE. AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY JANUARY GETS CRAZY BECAUSE OF THE MARTIN LUTHER KING HUMAN RIGHTS DAY AND AIC EVENTS, AND THAT USUALLY SWITCHES AROUND WHEN WE HAVE OUR WORK SESSION AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE OUR MEETING. AND SO IT COULD GET NUTS. YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT MARCH 1ST IF YOU PUSH IT. I DON'T THINK MY IN MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S THE WEEK BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY THAT IS HARD. BUT THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF DECEMBER PEOPLE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON GETTING STUFF DONE FOR THE SECOND HALF OF DECEMBER. AND SO I THINK THAT DECEMBER 11TH ACTUALLY GETS WELL AND YOU DON'T HAVE WORKING PEOPLE WHO DO CONSTRUCTION QUITE AS BOGGED DOWN IN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. RIGHT ABOUT THEN. THINGS HAVE LIGHTENED UP JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF THE COLD WEATHER OR COOLER WEATHER. WE USUALLY SEE. WHAT TIME OF DAY WOULD THE HEARING IS IT THURSDAY NIGHT? COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCIL MEETING? IS IT ONE OF THOSE HEARINGS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEND US EMAILS BEFORE. AND IT WOULD COUNT AS A LEGISLATIVE, NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL, RIGHT. THIS IS NOT A TAKING KIND OF A SITUATION. SO OPEN UP THE CHANCE IF WE ANNOUNCE THAT SOON ENOUGH MIGHT BE A WAY OF DEALING WITH THAT. MY QUESTION, THOUGH, WAS ALSO, IT SEEMS LIKE THE LAST TIME IT WAS CONFUSION ON WHICH DAY IT ACTUALLY TOOK EFFECT. EVEN THOUGH WE PASSED IT ON A CERTAIN DAY. CAN WE CLARIFY THAT BETTER THIS TIME AROUND? LIKE WHAT DAY DOES THE FEE GO? WELL, I DID THE MENTAL MATH, AND I THINK 30 DAYS FROM DECEMBER 16TH IS JANUARY 15TH. SO I THINK THAT'S HOW IT COULD WORK. AND SO ONCE WE PASS IT, IT TAKES EFFECT. NO, IT TAKES EFFECT AT LEAST. MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN PUT IN HERE.

LET'S SEE. SO YOU'RE ASKING IF IT'S AN AUTOMATIC START DATE OR IF WE HAVE TO SET A START DATE WITH THE START DATE. YEAH. BECAUSE LESS THAN 30 REMEMBERING. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE LAST TIME THERE WAS CONFUSION. DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS GOT DIFFERENT DATES WHEN IT ACTUALLY TOOK EFFECT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE PUTTING A LOT MORE EFFORT INTO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH.

NOW. THIS TIME WE LESSONS WERE LEARNED. OKAY, SO YOU'RE RIGHT. I THINK IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE

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

SO SO I DO HAVE THIS QUESTION THAT IS GOING TO MAYBE THROW A WRENCH IN ALL OF THIS. PLANNING AND ZONING IS GOING TO HAVE A HEARING AT PLANNING AND ZONING. SO WE'LL GET PUBLIC INPUT FROM THERE. THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER IMPACT, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THAT THEY COULD GET PUBLIC INPUT FROM. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. AND SO THE ONE PART THAT I. I SENSE IS GOING TO BE COMING FORWARD IS THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE CHANGED FROM SQUARE FOOTAGE INTO SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM SINGLE AND MULTI-FAMILY. I THINK THAT THERE WILL BE, WHETHER IT'S CONTROVERSIAL OR NOT, I THINK THAT JUST FROM MY CONVERSATIONS IS THAT WHEN THIS IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE SAID YES, MOVE TO SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THEN WE SAID, WELL, HERE'S WHAT SQUARE FOOTAGE MEANS, WHICH MEANS UNFINISHED BASEMENTS. THERE WASN'T A CHANCE TO GO BACK AND THOROUGHLY READDRESS THAT WITH THE IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

OR THEY WANTED TO THEY WANTED LIKE, I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY THAT YOU DIDN'T ALLOW THAT. RIGHT. LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE WILL STILL BE CONVERSATION AROUND IT. SO THESE ARE ALL HEARINGS. AND SO I THINK TO HAVE I JUST DON'T THIS WOULD BE THE DATE IF, IF PEOPLE COME IN AND SAY YES, WE WANT TO MOVE TO SQUARE FOOTAGE, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE FURTHER CONVERSATION IF IT IS BACK TO SINGLE OR MULTIFAMILY. I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S THERE'S IT'S THERE ARE STILL ISSUES THAT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN UP FROM THE IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT MIGHT COME BACK AT US THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT. I FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN PRETTY CLEAN. AND AND WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM PAM IS THAT COMMUNICATION. BUT YEAH, THAT'S FINE. I JUST THINK THAT IT IS THAT IT IS THESE HEARINGS. AND SO THAT MIGHT STILL BE AN ISSUE THAT WE GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT.

WELL, WELL, I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT, THOUGH, TO MOVING FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. YES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I WOULD SAY WITH THAT I'M JUST I'M NOT SURE DECEMBER 11TH IS THE HOLIDAYS FOR ME PERSONALLY. ONE MORE WEEK THAN I'VE BEEN THERE. OKAY.

COUNCILMEMBER FOR ME, BUT I'M I'M FINE WITH THAT. AND FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE. I REALLY DO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. BUT I THINK MOVING FORWARD IS THE MOST KEY WAY TO GET CLARITY FROM DEVELOPERS AND STAKEHOLDERS. AND I THINK NONE OF US ARE OPPOSED TO CONTINUING TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND REFINE. RIGHT. I AGREE, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT A HEARING IS IT'S NOT PERFUNCTORY. A HEARING IS SUPPOSED TO BE A TIME TO LISTEN, AND SOMEONE RAISES A POINT. THERE IS ALWAYS THE OPTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO PUT THE SCREECHING BRAKES ON EVERYTHING AND MAKE A CHANGE. THAT'S WHY THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD IMPLEMENT IT ON THIS DAY OR THAT DAY, IT BECOMES A LITTLE PREMATURE FOR ME. I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. PERHAPS WE CAN REVISE THE ORDINANCE SIMPLY TO SAY IT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE THE COUNCIL PASSES IT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, CITATION, WHATEVER, WHATEVER. AND THAT WAY IT'S AT LEAST OR MAKE IT SO THAT THERE IS STILL AN OPTION TO CHANGE IT. BUT ANYWAY. OKAY, SO LET'S MOVE ON FROM THAT DISCUSSION AND GO

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ON THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY DURING THE DEVELOPMENT SEASON. SO THERE WAS THAT JARRING OF OUR ENFORCEMENT. BUT THIS TIME, ANY, ANY DAY IN JANUARY WOULD BE PERFECT. OKAY, SO I'M DENNIS, AND I GOT TO CLARIFY. SO WE HAVE THE HEARING ON THE 11TH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE THAT NIGHT. YEAH. YOU WOULD IT WOULD BE I WOULD VOTE THAT NIGHT. YEAH. UNLESS AND YOU CAN ALWAYS SAY WE'RE NOT READY TO VOTE ANYMORE BASED ON WHAT WE HEARD. WE DON'T WANT TO VOTE. WE CAN ALWAYS TABLE IT AND SAY, YEAH, BUT IF YOU HAD NOBODY SHOW UP TO THE HEARING AND YOU ALREADY KNOW YOUR MIND FROM THE STUDIES THAT YOU'VE DONE, THEN IT'S APPROPRIATE TO OKAY, I MISUNDERSTOOD. I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE THE HEARING AND THEN PROCESS TIME LIKE WE WOULD ON THE BUDGET. AND THEN THIS IS NOT NEARLY AS COMPLICATED A DOCUMENT WHEN WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO IT. AND THERE HAS BEEN A YEAR OF WORK ALREADY PUT INTO THIS. SO I THINK PLANNING AND ZONING IS ALSO HELPING. WELL WITH THAT. PLANNING AND ZONING WOULD HAVE ONE WIN FOR THEIR HEARING FOR THIS. NOVEMBER. YEAH, NOVEMBER 5TH. SO THERE'S A MONTH. YEAH. YOU'D HAVE THAT MONTH. YEP. THAT'S RIGHT. MONTH AND A HALF ROUGHLY. I JUST I THINK ON THE AGENDA IT SHOULD SAY VOTE OR OTHER ACTION DEEMED NECESSARY. I MEAN I GENERALLY LIKE HAVING SOME TIME AFTER A HEARING, BUT BUT I DO THINK THAT IT IS AN OPTION IF YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING OR IF THERE'S NOTHING THAT COMES UP THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW. I'M OPEN TO EITHER.

ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF? I LIKE DWELLING UNIT. I LIKE THAT OKAY. HELPS THE CONVERSATION. THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING THAT I THOUGHT.

AND THEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WERE ALL VERY SUPPORTIVE OF, OR AT LEAST I HAVE BEEN SO. AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE NOT. WE DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK CRASH THAT WE AREN'T, THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE WE DON'T WANT TO DO CERTAINLY DO. BUT WE JUST THINK THERE'S BETTER PRACTICES POSSIBLY OUTSIDE OF THE IMPACT, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A POOL OF MONEY TO DO WHAT THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AND THE STATE ALLOWS. CORRECT. AND JUST REAL QUICKLY, BEFORE WE CONCLUDE THIS CONVERSATION, I'M JUST GOING TO READ OFF WHAT THE WEBSITE, THE WEB PAGE ADDRESSES, JUST FOR RECORD, IS HTTPS BACKSLASH BACKSLASH W-W-W IDAHO FALLS, IDAHO.GOV BACKSLASH 1695 BACKSLASH DASH DASH IN DASH IDAHO FALLS. SO IT'S IT'S IT'S ON THE WEB PAGE. THERE'S A SPECIAL WEB PAGE THAT HAS ALL THIS CURRENT INFORMATION THAT WE JUST WENT OVER TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND, AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS A DISCUSSION IN THE IMPACT OR THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING, BUT THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE ALLOWANCE OF CITY VEHICLES FOR POLICE TO BE COVERED BY IMPACT FEES. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE IMPACT FEES TO HELP US ADDRESS THE IMPACT OF GROWTH, GROWTH AND POLICING ARE GOING, SORRY, MAINTAINING OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE WHEN YOU HAVE GROWTH IN YOUR POPULATION AND GROWTH IN THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY, MEANS TYPICALLY ADDING OFFICERS. AND IF YOU ADD AN OFFICER, WHICH THE IMPACT FEE ALLOWS US TO TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT OFFICER BE ABLE TO GET AROUND. AND SO THE VEHICLE IS NOT IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE'RE BUYING CARS WITH IMPACT FEES. IT IS THAT THIS IS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT GOES WITH AN OFFICER. IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR THEIR GEAR AND EVERYTHING ELSE. IT'S PART OF HOW THEY ARE EFFECTIVE IN SERVING THE GROWING SIZE OF THE PUBLIC. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE EQUIPPED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. AND IT'S ONLY VEHICLES THAT ARE PURCHASED, NOT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FLEET, WHICH WE'VE SWITCHED, AS YOU KNOW, TO MORE OF A LEASING PROGRAM. AND

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[Parks & Recreation]

EVERY MONTH WE TRY TO FOCUS ON A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS GIVEN THE SCHEDULE. AND IN THIS CASE, PARKS AND RECREATION WAS THE ONE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT IS SO LARGE, IT HAS SO MANY PROGRAMS. WE HAVE CHOSEN TO SPLIT THEM UP. AND SO PARKS AND RECREATION, PART ONE IS IN MARCH AND PART TWO IS IN OCTOBER. FOR US, PART ONE WAS PARKS AND AND RECREATION. THOSE DIVISIONS TODAY WE HAVE OUR GOLF AND OUR ZOO DIVISIONS. AND SO PJ, OUR DIRECTOR, I'LL TURN IT TO YOU TO INTRODUCE THE STAFF THAT YOU HAVE AND TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LEARN IN THE HOUR THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER. SOUNDS WONDERFUL. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE A COUPLE MINUTES BEHIND THE SCHEDULE, AND SO WE WILL TRY TO MOVE ALONG AND MAKE IT A STREAMLINED AS WE CAN.

WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END. OR REALLY IF YOU IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT AND WE THINK THAT IT WOULD FLOW AND WE'RE ON ON TIME, GO AHEAD AND FEEL FREE TO TO ASK THOSE. SO AS MAYOR MENTIONED AND AND. ZACH, I WILL GET YOU GUYS BOTH SOME MUGS AFTER WE'RE DONE HERE.

SO AS MAYOR MENTIONED WE HAVE THE ZOO AND GOLF HERE TODAY. EVERYBODY KNOWS DOCTOR PENNOCK TO MY LEFT. YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW BUT YOU WILL GET TO KNOW KEVIN CAVAN. HE IS OUR NEW GOLF OPERATIONS MANAGER FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR. IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD TIM REINCKE SITTING UP HERE. KEVIN'S BEEN WITH THE THE GOLF DIVISION FOR A HANDFUL OF YEARS AND IS THE PRO AT SAGE LAKES AS WELL AS THE GOLF OPERATIONS MANAGER, WHO ESSENTIALLY IS KIND OF MY ONE, MY ONE PERSON THAT I GET TO KIND OF INTERACT WITH THROUGH THE GOLF DIVISION. AND THEN HE GETS TO OVERSEE AND AND INTERACT WITH THE REST OF THE GOLF DIVISION TO STREAMLINE IT JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START TODAY WITH JUST TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS IS KIND OF A OBVIOUSLY A REFERENCE FOR THE MAJORITY OF YOU OR A, A, A COVER OF SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALREADY VERY AWARE WITH ON HOW OUR DEPARTMENT WORKS. AND SO WE ACTUALLY WE DID CHANGE OUR, OUR LAYOUT OF THIS PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST REGURGITATE THE SAME INFORMATION WE COVERED LAST YEAR IN OCTOBER. BUT I WILL START TODAY WITH WHO WE ARE AND WHAT IS PARKS AND REC DO IDAHO FALLS PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT? IT'S COMMITTED TO BUILDING A STRONG COMMUNITY THROUGH THE PROVISION OF SAFE AND EXCEPTIONAL PARKS, FACILITIES, RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE. WE DON'T WE DON'T JUDGE WHETHER YOU LIVE HERE, WHETHER YOU DON'T, WHETHER YOU'RE A RESIDENT OR NOT. WE DO A LITTLE BIT IN OUR IN OUR ADMINISTRATION, OUR ADMISSION FEES, BUT WE ARE HERE FOR EVERYBODY, WHETHER YOU'RE FROM HERE OR NOT. AND WE'RE ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE. OUR MISSION STATEMENT, AS YOU'VE HEARD A HUNDRED TIMES, IS TO ENRICH COMMUNITY. IT'S A VERY SIMPLE MISSION, AND IT'S VERY IT'S A VERY GOOD MISSION FOR OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TO STRIVE FOR ENRICHING OUR

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THURSDAY WE SAW 1200 FOLKS, AND SO WE MADE UP THE OTHER. OBVIOUSLY THE REST OF THAT OVER THE NEXT TWO NIGHTS, WHICH WE'RE BUSY, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE WE HAVE PLENTY MORE SPACE THAT WE CAN PACK THEM IN AND AND GIVE THAT FUN EXPERIENCE TO. DOWNTOWN TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY.

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 22ND. IT'S THE FRIDAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING FROM 4 TO 8. IT IS GOING TO BE A HOLIDAY MARKET DOWN ON MEMORIAL AS WELL AS A TREE LIGHTING AND AND FUN EXPERIENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE THE HARD WORK THAT PARKS PUTS INTO DECORATING JAPANESE GARDEN DOWN MEMORIAL THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN AND THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS UTB HOLIDAY LIGHT PARADE AND FIREWORKS SHOW. THIS YEAR WE ARE STARTING AND ENDING AT FREEMAN PARK RATHER THAN THE MOUNTAIN AMERICA CENTER AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST. IT IS 7 P.M. THIS YEAR. WE HAD GONE TO SIX. LAST YEAR WE FELT LIKE WE KIND OF INTERACTED WITH TRAFFIC AND THAT POST WORK STUFF A LITTLE TOO MUCH. SO WE WENT BACK TO 7:00 AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HECK OF A LIGHT SHOW OR A FIREWORKS SHOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT EVENT. WE'RE HOPING TO GET IT DIRECTLY OVER THE FALLS. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON ON ALL THAT, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR FOLKS TO PERMIT THAT. PJ. YES, SIR. FOR STARTING AT FREEMAN PARK. YOU'RE GOING TO GO OVER THE BRIDGE OR BECAUSE THE UNDER THE BRIDGE WON'T BE AVAILABLE UNDER THE BRIDGE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE. SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE ONE LANE ON EAST RIVER ROAD THAT THE SOUTHBOUND LANES, AS WE FIRST BEGAN COMING OUT OF, OUT OF FREEMAN WILL BE ON THE ROAD AND WE'LL GO AROUND THE RIVER. THEY ARE GOING TO PASS ITSELF. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SERPENTINE THAT'S GOING TO INTER INTERTWINED. BUT WHEN WE COME OFF OF HIGHWAY 20, WE'LL STAY ON THE SIDEWALK OR THE PATHWAY THAT'S RIGHT THERE THAT LEADS DOWN TO FREEMAN PARK. AND SO WE'LL BE RIGHT BY EACH OTHER, PASSING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS UNDER THE UNDERPASS THERE AND DOWN TO DOWN TO FREEMAN. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? OKAY. DEPARTMENT ORGANIZATIONS PRETTY BEEN IT'S BEEN SAME FOR A LONG TIME. THE ONE DIFFERENCE THAT WE DID ADD FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR IS GOING TO BE OUR IN OUR ZOO. WE DID HAVE A 22 WHERE LAST YEAR WAS A 21. THAT IS NOT TAKEN PLACE YET, BUT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. YOU GUYS DID APPROVE AN FTE TO START IN APRIL MID MID YEAR HIGHER. AND SO AT THAT POINT WE WILL BE 22 AND IT WILL FILL THIS BOTTOM, THIS BOTTOM PIECE RIGHT HERE WITH THE ANIMAL CARE STAFF. BUT UNTIL THEN WE ARE ONE SHORTER THAN YOU'LL SEE HERE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON AND GO STRAIGHT TO THE ZOO. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN. IT BREAKS DOWN FROM EMPLOYMENT BASED OFF OF DIVISIONS IN THERE. I'M GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO MR. PENNOCK TO TALK ABOUT THE ZOO FOR A WHILE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE. AND THANKS FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT OUR DIVISIONS AND HOW PROUD WE ARE OF THE ZOO AND THE REST OF PARKS AND REC. YOU'VE SEEN THE MISSION STATEMENT HERE FOR THE FOR THE ZOO BEFORE, YOU KNOW, CAPTIVE WILDLIFE, FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES, FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES AND FOR CONSERVATION OF ALL NATURAL RESOURCES PURPOSES. WE, AS P.J. MENTIONED, WE'VE REARRANGED THE THE PRESENTATION JUST A LITTLE BIT TO EMPHASIZE SOME THINGS WE DIDN'T EMPHASIZE AS MUCH LAST YEAR, AND TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MANY OF YOU HAD ABOUT THE ZOO AND ITS BUDGET AND ITS ACTIVITIES. SO WE WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE NON-GENERAL FUND PROJECTS. THAT'S WHAT THE F STANDS FOR UP THERE. ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT THE ZOO THAT ARE NOT BROUGHT UP DURING THE NORMAL GENERAL FUND BUDGETING PROCESS. AND FOR INSTANCE, THIS YEAR, THE ISLANDS EXHIBIT THAT MANY OF YOU HAVE COME TO SEE THAT WILL BE OPEN THIS SPRING IS WE SPENT

[00:55:04]

THE LEMUR AND THE FOSSA WILL BE MOVED OVER THERE SOON AND READY FOR AN OPENING NEXT SEASON. BUT 115 ZERO ZERO $0 SPENT THIS YEAR ON THE PROJECT TO GET IT TO FINISH. IT DID NOT APPEAR IN THE REGULAR GENERAL FUND BUDGETING PROCESS. IN ADDITION, WHAT IS THE PRICE ELEMENT TO THAT? BECAUSE PRIOR TO THIS YEAR, THERE WAS THE STRUCTURE WAS THERE AND SOME OF THE THE GLASS WAS THERE. SO WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ADDING TO THE COSTS OF THIS? AND WHERE DID THAT 115 COME FROM? YEAH, REALLY GOOD QUESTION. SO THE A LOT OF THESE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED THIS YEAR. SO A LOT OF THE OUTSIDE STUFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT, THE STRUCTURE FOR THE OUTSIDE TOWARDS THE EXHIBIT WAS PUT TOGETHER. ALL THE HVAC, ELECTRICAL, EVERYTHING FOR THE EDUCATION AREA WAS ALL PUT IN THIS YEAR. THE BUILDING WAS PAINTED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A OH, AND THEN THE BACK AREA THAT HOLDS THE LEMURS AND THE FOSSA. THERE'S A BUILDING BEHIND IT THAT HAS CAGING. SO WHEN THEY NEED CARE, THEY NEED TO BE MOVED OR THEY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT CLOSER. THERE'S AN EXTRA LITTLE BUILDING BEHIND IT AND ALL THE CAGING. AND THAT WAS PUT IN AS WELL. AND AS FAR AS WHERE THE MONEY CAME FROM, THIS CELL COMES FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND IN THIS CASE. AND IN ALMOST EVERY CASE, I'LL TALK ABOUT, AS YOU REMEMBER, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND IS ENRICHED EVERY YEAR BY OUR VISITORS. OUR VISITORS, AS PART OF THEIR ENTRANCE FEE, GOES TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, $1 PER VISITOR. AND THAT GOES INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.

IN ADDITION, ALL THE GRANTS THAT WE WRITE THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ALSO GOES INTO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. AND THEN WE TRACK THOSE SEPARATELY.

SO WE MAKE SURE WE ONLY SPEND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THAT GRANT IS FOR. SO IN THIS CASE, FOR THE ISLANDS EXHIBIT, 100% OF THAT MONEY COMES FROM GRANT FUNDS. NONE OF THAT IS IS FROM THE SURCHARGE. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT OUR LOG HUT CAFE. THAT'S JUST NEWLY FINISHED BEING RESTORED. WE SPENT $280,000 ON THAT IN FISCAL YEAR 2025. THAT WAS A THAT WAS A BIT OF A SURPRISE, HOW MUCH IT TAKES TO TAKE AN OLD BUILDING AND HAVE IT BE FIXED UP AND NOT LOOK LIKE IT'S BEEN RESTORED, BUT LOOK HISTORIC AND LOVELY TO THE MAYOR'S POINT IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE, WE WERE ABLE TO COVER $127,000 OF THAT WITH FUNDRAISING, WITH GRANT FUNDING, BUT WE FELL SHORT AND WE DIDN'T COME TO THE COUNCIL AND SAID, OH MY, WE'RE SHORT MONEY. WE WENT TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AND WE'RE ABLE TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, THE ADDITIONAL $153,000 OUT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND TO MAKE UP THAT THAT DEFICIT. IN ADDITION, WE FINISHED OUR HORNBILL BARN.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE PERCHING TO DO, AND WE'VE GOT TO DO THE FENCE SO THAT IT'S CONNECTED TO OUR ZEBRA YARD, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S ALL FINISHED. THAT WAS $50,000 INVESTMENT. ALL OF THAT AGAIN OUT OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, BUT ALL ENTIRELY GRANT GRANT MONEY. ALL FUND RAISING MONEY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER $83,000 WE SPENT TO IMPROVE OUR ZOO, PREPARING FOR OUR AZA ACCREDITATION, REPLACING EQUIPMENT, ADDING A SHED FOR OUR EDUCATION PEOPLE, A NEW FRIDGE, A NEW WASHER, A BUNCH OF NEW HOSPITAL EQUIPMENT.

AGAIN, ALL OF THAT BADLY NEEDED. BUT NOT ONCE DID WE NEED TO COME TO THE COUNCIL AND SAY, OH MY, WE WE NEED TO NEED THIS. WE NEED AN EDUCATION CHECK. WE NEED SOME MORE MONEY. WE GOT THAT A LOT OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AND IN THIS CASE AGAIN WAS 100% GRANT SUPPORTED. SO NONE OF THAT MONEY COMES FROM OUR SURCHARGE AS WELL. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ALL TOGETHER, YOU KIND OF LOOK AT THE OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AS A WHOLE. IN FISCAL YEAR 2025, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT $96,000 IN IT FROM THE SURCHARGE OF OUR VISITORS. SO NONE OF THAT IS TAXPAYER MONEY THAT'S PAID FOR. YES. AND SO IS THAT FAIR TO SAY THAT WE HAD 96,000 VISITORS? WE HAD MANY. WE HAD MANY MORE VISITORS. SO DID YOU SAY THERE'S A $1 SURCHARGE PER ENTRANCE? YEAH. YEAH, YEAH, WE HAD ABOUT 140,000 VISITORS. THAT INCLUDES PROGRAMS. THAT INCLUDES EVENTS, THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, THESE WOULD JUST BE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST COMING TO VISIT THE ZOO. SO AS A PASS, RIGHT. SEASON PASS. YEAH. NONE OF THAT GOES TO THE SURCHARGE. OH, I MEAN, TO TAKE THAT BACK WHEN, WHEN THE. SO YOU BUY A MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO. THAT MONEY GOES TO THE ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY. AND THE ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY GETS 25% OF

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SO $96,000 IN SURCHARGE, MONEY INVESTMENT, SOME NICE GROWTH THERE. $223,000 IN FUNDRAISING, ONE IN THERE. SO WE SPENT OVER A HALF $1 MILLION OF FUNDS TO IMPROVE THE ZOO THIS YEAR. THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGETING PROCESS, BUT INSTEAD WAS ALMOST ENTIRELY FUNDED BY GRANTS AND FUNDRAISING, AND IN THE CASE OF THE LAW, GOT $153,000 OR WHATEVER IT WAS CAME FROM THE SURCHARGE MONEY. SO AS A RESULT, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE STARTED OUT WITH ALMOST $900,000 IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. IT'S GONE DOWN BY $121,000, BUT WE SPENT OVER HALF $1 MILLION OUT OF THAT FUND. SO. THAT'S HOW WE PLAN FOR MUCH OF THE UNEXPECTED CHALLENGES AT THE ZOO IS THROUGH OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND. SO OUR PAST POLICY HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO KEEP AN EMERGENCY FUND THERE OF $50,000.

BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE A BALANCE THERE FOR FOR EXTRA WHATEVER COMES UNEXPECTED. WE HAD TO REPLACE THE PRIMATE ROOF A FEW YEARS AGO. WE HAD TO REPLACE THE ROOF JUST TWO YEARS AGO. WE HAD TO REBUFF THE THE VIEWING WINDOW FOR THE OTTERS AND HAD TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM SALT LAKE COME AND DO THAT APPROPRIATELY. ALL OF THAT CAME FROM THE ALL UNEXPECTED EXPENSES, AND ALL THOSE CAME FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND EXPENSES. WE ARE EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASING THAT, THAT OUR POLICY SHOULD BE, THAT IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER. WE CAME UP WITH THE $50,000 WITH GOING TALKING TO OUR MAINTENANCE PEOPLE, THEN TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE BIGGEST POSSIBLE FACILITIES CHALLENGE WE COULD HAVE. AND $50,000 SEEM TO BE MORE THAN ENOUGH. PERHAPS IT'S NOT QUITE. SO WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT THAT AGAIN, TALKING TO OUR BUILDING MAINTENANCE PEOPLE AS WELL, AND SEEING WHAT THE APPROPRIATE BALANCE MIGHT BE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS FAR AS PLANNING FOR FOR THE UNEXPECTED, THIS IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT ISSUE OR FUND ISSUE. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT HERE. OUR LOCATION HAS DRAMATICALLY CHANGED OVER THE LAST YEARS. JUST FIVE YEARS AGO, WE WEREN'T PUTTING ANYTHING IN THE EARTH.

NOW WE'RE PUTTING OVER $130,000 A YEAR INTO MURPH SO THAT WE'RE BETTER PREPARED FOR OUR FOR OUR VEHICLE EXPENSES AND OTHERS AS WELL. CAN YOU DESCRIBE YOUR FLEET? NOT NOT IN DETAIL, BUT JUST VERY QUICKLY. I THINK WE HAVE NINE VEHICLES. WE HAVE ONE DUMP TRUCK. WE HAVE AN OLDER DUMP TRUCK, WE'VE GOT MULE, WE'VE GOT A TOOL CAT, WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE OF THE CAT FAMILY.

BOBCAT. YOU KNOW, I NEVER REMEMBER WHICH IS WHICH, BUT IT'S SMALL MOWER. JUST, YOU KNOW, A FEW THINGS LIKE THAT, BRINGING IT UP TO NINE. BUT AS FAR AS BIG B. OH, WE HAVE TWO EXPLORERS, YOU KNOW, SO AS FAR AS MAJOR VEHICLES, WE HAVE THE TWO EXPLORERS AND THE DUMP TRUCK AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE AFTER THAT IS SMALLER, SMALLER THINGS, DOWN TO MEMORIES. SO I WANT TO CHIME IN JUST FOR A HALF SECOND AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF WHY WE DECIDED TO ADD A LOT OF THIS NON-GENERAL FUND PROJECT EXPLANATION TO THIS FOCUS REPORT. SOME OF THIS THIS CAME REALLY, I FELT LIKE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WHEN WE HAD A THE LIFT STATION SCARE THAT HAD THAT WE WERE STRUGGLING TO TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. IT WAS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO US THE WAY IT WAS LOOKED AT WAS YOU PROBABLY SHOULD SWITCH THIS OVER TO A STANDARD CITY LIFT STATION, WHICH WAS A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION. THAT WAS A VERY SCARY SOUNDING EXPENSE FOR US. SO WE DECIDED TO COME TO COUNCIL AND BRING THAT AS A AS A CAPITAL REQUEST THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. WE WE DID WE WERE ABLE TO NARROW THAT DOWN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE FELT THAT THERE WAS MAYBE A SOME CONCERN WITH EMERGENCIES COMING UP AT THE ZOO AND THAT WE WEREN'T PREPARED AND WE WEREN'T PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. PART OF THIS WAS TO SHOW THAT THAT WE ARE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE WE DO HAVE. WE ARE NOT COMING TO TO COUNCIL EVERY YEAR DURING BUDGET PROCESS TO ASK FOR, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENTS OF THIS AND BUILD US HELP BUILD THIS OUT. IT IS GOING THROUGH A GRANT PROCESS, WHICH IS DEFINITELY A VERY FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND EFFECTIVE WAY TO TO RUN THE ZOO

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AND SO THAT WAS PART OF IT WAS I FELT LIKE THERE WAS A THERE WAS KIND OF A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING ON, ON HOW MUCH IT'S ACTUALLY BEING BROUGHT IN ELSEWHERE OVER AT THE ZOO. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT DAVE AND, AND, AND THIS GROUP WAS ABLE TO, TO SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL BUT ISN'T. OH GO AHEAD. NO, YOU GO AHEAD. THAT TO ME THAT'S AN INDICATION THAT 50,000 MIGHT BE TOO LOW BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE WENT BACK TO THE ALTERNATE SOLUTION, IT WAS 60,000. AND TO ME THAT'S WHERE THAT KIND OF RESERVE IS THERE. SO YOU'RE NOT COMING TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? YEAH. IT'S A IT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT. AND I THINK A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION OF THE LIFT STATION FOR ME WASN'T, WAS MORE, WHO SHOULD BE PAYING FOR IT. YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE STATION WAS SURPRISED. MOST MOST OF THE FACILITIES THINGS AT THE ZOO. WE UNDERSTAND WE KNOW OUR FACILITIES. PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE SEWAGE AND HOW TO LIFT. IT WAS JUST SOMETHING WE DIDN'T, DIDN'T ANTICIPATE. AND OF COURSE, THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. AND SO THE LOWEST BID FOR THAT RIGHT NOW IS $37,000. AND SO WE CAN FIX THE PROBLEM. SHOULD WE START SAVING TO DO A CITY APPROPRIATE LIFT STATION? THAT WOULD BE A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION. THAT'S THAT'S A DISCUSSION. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE INTERESTED IN OR NOT? I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT THE LIFT STATION WAS WAS A COMPLETE SURPRISE. BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THAT $50,000, MAYBE UP TO 75 OR POTENTIALLY 100 TO HAVE AS KIND OF AN EMERGENCY. MINIMAL CAPITAL PLAN FOR THAT FOR THE SEASON. SO I THINK MY QUESTION IS JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT AND JUST TO MAKE SURE FOR CLARITY, THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND MONEY WAS USED FOR PLANNED MAINTENANCE OR PLANNED REPLACEMENT, ALL OF THAT WAS IN SOME KIND OF A BUILDING PLAN OR A MAINTENANCE PLAN LIKE, OH, NOW IT'LL BE TIME TO DO THIS. BUT IT DIDN'T CATCH YOU OFF GUARD THAT IT WAS KIND OF PLANNED AND READY TO GO.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAD THE MONEY, AND THE MONEY WAS SET ASIDE FOR IT. AND THAT THE LIFT STATION, YES, WAS A LITTLE CATCH OFF GUARD. BUT THEN WE DID FUND IT. IT WASN'T THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS JUST USED TO MANAGE EMERGENCIES. THIS IS REALLY A. A FUND USED TO MANAGE BUILDING MAINTENANCE. YES. IT'S A FUND USED TO TO MANAGE BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND ALSO TO MANAGE GRANT FOCUSED PROJECTS. OKAY. SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT IF WE PUT OUR GRANT MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND, THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR WE LOSE IT. THE PROJECT'S NOT NOT COMPLETED OR WE DON'T GET IT, TURN IT OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR IN TIME. AND IT WAS AWKWARD IN THE PAST. OKAY. AND SO WE TOOK SOME TIME TO ADJUST IT. AS FAR AS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE PLAN, WE WE COULD DO BETTER ON APPROACHING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE MURPH FUND AND SAY, HERE'S A ROOF. AND WE EXPECT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE NEED IT TO BE REPLACED IN 20 YEARS OR WHATEVER AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE'D NEED TO OUT THEM IS, IS SOMETHING WE COULD DO BETTER. BUT THAT THE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT WITH IT IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT GOES INTO IT IS NOT STRATEGIC LIKE IT IS WITH MURPH. THIS IS HOW MUCH WE SHOULD HAVE TO COMPLETE IT. IT'S COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON HOW MANY PEOPLE COME INTO THE ZOO EVERY YEAR. BUT THE BUT THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT COUNCIL HAS SET FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES, THEY ARE THEY ARE A RESOURCE TO YOU OR THAT HASN'T QUITE HAPPENED YET. THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED FOR US YET. OKAY. BUT WE'RE EAGERLY ANTICIPATING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO. HERE'S A QUICK BIT OF A BUDGET OVERVIEW. THE REVENUES. WE HAD SIGNIFICANT SHORTFALL IN OUR REVENUES. WE HAD SIX. WE RAISED 67% OF THE REVENUES WE BUDGETED. THANKFULLY, OUR EXPENDITURES WERE ALSO WAY BELOW BUDGET. IT'S 83% OF WHAT'S WHAT WAS BUDGETED IN THE RED BELOW YOU SEE THE INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY PUTS INTO THE ZOO EVERY YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO PRETTY MUCH HIT THE BUDGETED AMOUNT. SOME YEARS WE HAVEN'T BEEN AS GOOD AT THAT. SO WE WERE VERY, VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE THAT THE CITY INVESTMENT WAS ABOUT ABOUT WHAT WAS BUDGETED THIS YEAR. AND HERE'S, HERE'S A QUICK, QUICK, VERY QUICK RUNDOWN OF WHAT WHAT CAUSED THOSE SHORTFALLS WITH REVENUE. I CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER ONE BIG THING IS FUNLAND. WE'VE HAD

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BUT THE THE REST OF THE LOG HUT IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR VENDING. FOOD WOULD NEVER PASS THE SAFETY INSPECTION, THE FOOD INSPECTION. BUT NOW THAT IT'S BEEN CHANGED, NOW WE CAN DO IT.

SO LAST YEAR, THIS LAST SEASON, WHILE WE WERE REMODELING THE LOG HUT, WE HAD TO MOVE EVERYTHING INTO A TINY LITTLE RED SHACK. AND SO ALL OF OUR CAFE SALES DISAPPEARED. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN WE OPEN UP THE LOG HUT, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE SOME CONCESSION SELLS AS WELL. SMALL LITTLE GIFT SHOP WITH, WITH SOME NICE LITTLE TEDDY BEARS, WITH FUNLAND HOODIES, THOSE LITTLE SNOW GLOBES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE HOPE THAT THE REVENUE GOES UP SIGNIFICANTLY. DOCTOR PENNOCK IS THE IS FUNLAND STILL BEING INDEPENDENTLY ADMISSIONS INDEPENDENTLY BEING SOLD JUST THAT THE FUNLAND FACILITY OR ARE THEY BEING SOLD AT THE ZOO. JUST JUST AT THE FUNLAND FACILITY. WE HAVE HAD TICKET GIVEAWAYS THAT WE'VE DONE AT THE ZOO TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO OVER, BUT WE ONLY BUY TICKETS AT THE AT THE FACILITY. THAT WILL BE A LOT BETTER ONCE WE'VE HAD THE NEW ENTRANCE BUILT CLOSE BY, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO. SO ONCE WE HAVE THE NEW ENTRANCE, WILL THEY BE COMBINED THE EXPERIENCES OR WILL IT STILL BE TWO SEPARATE? AT FIRST THEY'LL JUST BE MORE COLLABORATIVE, YOU KNOW, MORE COORDINATED. BUT YOU CAN STILL JUST GO TO FUNLAND, BUY A TICKET THERE, GET FOOD THERE, NEVER GO TO THE ZOO AT ALL, OR VICE VERSA. THAT'LL CONTINUE.

AND WE'RE VERY CONFLICTED ON DO WE PUT A FENCE AROUND FUNLAND? DO WE KEEP IT OPEN IN ORDER TO HAVE IT KIND OF AS A COLLABORATIVE FACILITY? WE FEEL THAT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE FENCED IN, BUT THAT IS A THAT CHANGES, CHANGES HOW IT HAS FELT, HOW IT LOOKS, HOW IT HOW IT INTERACTS WITH OFFICE PARK. AND SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING BACK AND FORTH ON.

WHAT DO WE SEE? HOW DO WE SEE THAT LOOKING IN THE FUTURE? AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT DOING MORE THINGS LIKE WHEN YOU GO TO THE ZOO, YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET ONE TICKET OR TWO TICKETS TO TO FUNLAND THAT WE KNOW FOLKS ARE GOING TO COME OVER WITH THEIR KIDS OR WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND JUST DIFFERENT KIND OF MARKETING TECHNIQUES TO GET PEOPLE OVER COMBINED TICKET FOR BOTH AS OF NOW AND BE ABLE TO GO TO BOTH. YOU KNOW, IT HAS REALLY BEEN ESPECIALLY WITH WITH THE OCTOPUS DOME. IT'S A IT'S BEEN A VERY LARGE LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND A AND A UPHILL CLIMB FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP THAT STUFF RUNNING EFFECTIVELY, BUT ALSO CONSISTENTLY HAS BEEN OUR BIGGEST CONCERN, OUR BIGGEST ISSUE AT THIS POINT. BUT WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH, THERE WAS A COUPLE PICTURES WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THE HUT, I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY NEAT AND NOSTALGIC PIECE FOR FOR THE THE PARK WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THERE. EVERYTHING WAS DONE IN A VERY RETRO FEEL. THE EXACT TILES WERE PUT DOWN IN THE SAME WEIRD KIND OF A WEIRD PATTERN, BUT IT IS EXACTLY AS IT WAS BACK IN THE DAY AND EVERYTHING WAS DONE ON A BUDGET, BUT TO AS METICULOUSLY AS WE COULD TO MAKE IT FEEL VERY RETRO. BUT IT IS FILLED WITH BRAND NEW SOFT SERVE ICE CREAM MACHINES, BRAND NEW POPCORN MACHINES AND BRAND. I MEAN, EVERYTHING IN THERE IS

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YES. OKAY. ONE DAY WE MAY EXPLORE A CONTRACTOR. WE'VE HAD A CONTRACTOR IN THE PAST FOR OUR CAFE AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT VERY WELL. BUT IN IN OUR SMALL, SMALL LITTLE ZOO, AS WE GROW, THERE MAY BE THE TIME WHERE A CONTRACTOR MAKES MORE SENSE FOR US, BUT IT'S NOT YET. WE'RE WE'LL GO. WE HAVE THE EXPENSE SAVINGS THERE AS WELL. AND I'D BE GLAD TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANY OF THOSE IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THEM IN SOME DETAIL. BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, WE'LL MOVE ALONG. HERE'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT NON-GENERAL FUND ACTIVITY HAPPENING AT THE ZOO THAT IS REALLY CRITICAL. SO IN THIS LAST YEAR, WE RAISED OVER $120,000 FOR THIS NEW ENTRANCE THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THAT GOES ENTIRELY THROUGH THE ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY. SO ALL THE EVENTS AT THE ZOO, THE MONEY GOES TO THE ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY. THEY'RE SAVING IT UP TO TO BUILD A NEW ENTRANCE. AND THE, THE WE HAD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE CAME UP WITH AN INITIAL DESIGN. WE'VE JUST ENGAGED THE ARCHITECTS AGAIN TO START THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND COME UP WITH THE FINAL, FINAL BID. YOU SEE THAT WE'VE RAISED OVER $700,000.

THAT'S A MISPRINT. IT'S OVER $900,000. THAT'S ALMOST $900,000 HAS BEEN RAISED FOR THE ENTRANCE. SO AGAIN, A HUGE ASSET FOR THE FOR THE CITY, FOR THE ZOO. THAT'S THAT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THE WHOLE GENERAL FUND BUDGETING DISCUSSION, BUT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE TO NOTE. SO WHEN IT'S TIME TO BUILD IT, YOU KNOW, THERE HOPEFULLY WILL NOT BE ANY GENERAL FUND MONEY NEEDED TO BUILD IT AT ALL. THAT'S THE GOAL. WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED COST FOR IT? WELL, I WAS HOPING YOU WOULDN'T ASK. THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. WELL, THAT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATION. SO INITIALLY IT WAS I'M JUST TEASING MAYOR INITIALLY THE A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS I THINK FOUR YEARS, PERHAPS THREE YEARS.

WHEN WE GOT THE INITIAL DESIGN, IT WAS $1.2 MILLION. SO WE'RE AT $900,000. THAT'S WITHIN REACH. AND WITH A FEW BUDGET SAVING THINGS, WE'RE HOPING TO START BUILDING IT. NOT THIS SUMMER, BUT THE NEXT SUMMER. WE WANT TO START BUILDING IT WITH THIS INITIAL DISCUSSION WITH THE ARCHITECTS, THEY WENT WAY OUT OF THEIR WAY TO SAY, DON'T GET TOO EXCITED. THE CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE SKYROCKETED, AND THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THE NEW ESTIMATE JUST BASED ON THEIR INITIAL DESIGNS. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT AND SEE. BUT WHAT THEY WERE SAYING WAS ORIGINALLY 300 SOMETHING DOLLARS. A SQUARE FOOT WAS NOW 500 SOMETHING DOLLARS A SQUARE FOOT. AND SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, WE'LL REEVALUATE AND DISCUSS.

SO WE'LL SEE. REMIND ME WHAT WE SPENT FROM THE ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY, HOW MUCH THEY PUT IN FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES. 30,000, $50,000, $70,000 AND $250,000 FOR THE NEW EDUCATION CENTER AS WELL. SO THEY MIGHT ALMOST BE THERE FOR THE ENTRANCE IF THEY HADN'T SPENT THAT MONEY ON OTHER THINGS. YEAH, BUT BUT WE'RE WE'RE SURE THRILLED THAT IT WAS A GOOD IT WAS A GOOD TRADE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO ANOTHER THING, JUST TO TAKE NOTE OF THE NORTH PARK DRIVE BEING PREPARED FOR THIS NEW ENTRANCE, NORTH PARK DRIVE ENTRANCE WAS COMPLETED. THAT BEAUTIFUL. I JUST JUST LOVE THAT THING. SOMETIMES I'LL JUST DRIVE OVER THERE JUST JUST TO DRIVE ON IT. AND THE DESIGN OF THE NEW LITTLE ROUNDABOUT AREA IN FRONT OF THE NEW ENTRANCE, WITH A DROP OFF FOR THE HOCKEY ARENA THAT'S BEING DESIGNED RIGHT NOW, AND HOPEFULLY WITH WORK STARTING HERE THIS SPRING. HERE'S ANOTHER NON-GENERAL FUND EFFORT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. SO THROUGH THE IDAHO STEM ACTION CENTER. THIS LAST THIS LAST SUMMER, WE EMPLOYED THREE EXTERNAL TEACHERS ON THEIR SUMMER BREAKS TO HELP WITH OUR EDUCATION. AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING IS SURVEYING, MOSTLY SURVEYING OUR VISITORS. SINCE WE'RE A DATE, OUR DECISIONS ARE DATA DRIVEN, AS OUR CITY VALUES SUGGEST THAT WE ARE. THAT'S WHAT THEY DO IS THEY'VE BEEN

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IT WAS REALLY QUITE EXTRAORDINARY. AND AND IT AND IT REFLECTS THE CONSERVATION MONEY THAT WE SEND TO MONGOLIA, MOSTLY FOR THE CONSERVATION OF SNOW LEOPARDS. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT, THIS IS MARK SULEIMAN AND HIS WIFE DORA, WHO'S WHO'S FROM DURANGO NATIONAL PARK IN MOZAMBIQUE, THE SCIENCE DIRECTOR DIRECTOR. I MADE SURE TO PUT HIM ON THERE BECAUSE HE SADLY PASSED AWAY THIS LAST YEAR. BUT THERE HE IS VISITING OUR ZOO JUST A FEW YEARS AGO AND PENGUINS THERE TO THE RIGHT AND WHERE I WISH I COULD REALLY SPEND SOME TIME TALKING IS THE PICTURE OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE DOWN HERE WHO WORK ON OUR LOCAL CONSERVATION PROJECTS. ONE OF THEM, THE ONE TO THE FAR LEFT, PUBLISHED A VERY PRESTIGIOUS SCIENTIFIC JOURNAL JUST THIS LAST YEAR ABOUT THE SAINT ANTHONY DUNES PRIMROSE, A PLANT THAT APPEARS NOWHERE ELSE ON THE PLANET, AND HIS WORK THAT'S BEEN FUNDED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. HE'S NOW A GRADUATE STUDENT AT BYU. THE ONE THERE IN THE MIDDLE IS A GRADUATE STUDENT AT IDAHO STATE UNIVERSITY, AND THE OTHER ONES ARE ARE UNDERGRADUATES AT BYU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. I JUST LOVE IT. MAKES ME WANT TO GO TO WORK EVERY DAY.

THEY'RE JUST SO WONDERFUL. AND THE THINGS THAT THEY DO IS JUST JUST FANTASTIC. AND SO YOU TAKE TAKE SORT OF THIS SUMMARY OF THESE NON GENERAL FUND PROJECTS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE OVER $700,000 SPENT IN JUST THE LAST YEAR IN ACTIVITY AT THE ZOO. THAT MATTERS FOR OUR MISSION MATTERS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND I PUT THIS PICTURE HERE IN THERE PARTICULARLY. THIS IS THE BEST DONATION WE RECEIVED ALL YEAR. THIS IS A GROUP INSPIRED BY THE ZOO. THESE YOUNG PEOPLE PUT UP A LEMONADE STAND, RAISED $27 AND DONATED IT TO OUR CONSERVATION FUND. THESE YOUNG LEADERS OF THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED THEM. AND THERE THEY ARE, BEING INSPIRED BY THE ZOO AND TAKING ACTION ON THEIR OWN. I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS EVEN GOING ON. JUST ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL. ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING ON FOR THE COMING YEAR.

THINGS THAT NEED TO BE COMPLETED. THE ISLANDS EXHIBIT WILL BE OPEN. MENTIONED. MAYOR.

THE OUTDOOR LEMUR EXHIBIT. THERE IT IS. THAT WAS BUILT LAST YEAR. BUT THE GLASS IS GOING IN. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO START LAST WEEK. THEY WENT IN AND DID THE MEASUREMENTS THAT HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE STARTING THIS WEEK WILL BE OPENING THE LOG HUT.

WE'VE GOT THE HABITAT PLAYGROUND RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ISLANDS EXHIBIT, FUNDED BY GRANTS AND BY A WONDERFUL DONATION FROM OLD CASTLE CONCRETE THAT'S DONATING ALL OF THESE HUGE. CONCRETE TUNNELS. CONCRETE TUBES, TUNNELS. THAT'S THE THING. YEAH. PRECAST THINGS.

THEY'VE BEEN ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY. AND OF COURSE, THE ENTRANCE WILL HAVE OUR CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS DONE. WE'LL RAISE ANOTHER $120,000 AT LEAST FOR THAT. THAT'S ALL.

AGAIN. ISLANDS. HABITAT. LOG HUT, THE NEW ENTRANCE. NONE OF THAT IS GENERAL FUND RELATED AT ALL. AND ALL OF THEM WILL BE HAPPENING THIS COMING YEAR. WELL, OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE THE UPDATE OF THE LIFT STATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AS WELL. SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

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EVERYBODY SAID IT ACTUALLY, BEFORE COMING TO THE ZOO, I WAS PART OF BUILDING THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AND IT WAS VERY OBVIOUS. IN FACT, IN THIS RECENT ASA REVIEW, THEY BROUGHT IT UP WITH THE WITH THE FILLING OF THESE, THIS LAST FTE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS APPROVED AND FILLING THE OPEN POSITIONS. YOU NEED TO DO THAT. AND THANKFULLY WE HAVE AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS WITH THAT APPROVED CHANGE, THE ZOO RIGHT NOW FEELS REALLY GOOD. I THINK IT'S TAKEN US TEN YEARS, BUT HERE WE ARE. YOU KNOW, FOR HOW THE ZOO IS RIGHT NOW, I THINK FINALLY WE HAVE THE STAFF TO SUSTAIN THE ZOO THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD THAT WE CAN HAVE AS AS TIME GOES ON WITH THE IMPLICATIONS. BUT FOR THE WAY THE ZOO IS RIGHT NOW, WE FEEL VERY, VERY CONFIDENT. WE'VE GOT TO MOVE RIGHT ALONG HERE. SO IT'S NOT THAT THE REVENUE HAS STAYED

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WITH A BETTER FACILITY, WE SHOULD MAKE MUCH MORE. AND THAT'S WHERE THE ZOOLOGICAL SOCIETY IS SO IMPORTANT. AND THEY'RE THIS YEAR IS GOING TO HELP US EXPAND OUR FOOD SERVICES, BUY US A NEW FOOD TRUCK THAT'S LARGER, THAT CAN HAVE A BIGGER MENU, THAT'S MORE COMFORTABLE TO WORK IN, AND SHOULD INCREASE OUR CAFE SALES SIGNIFICANTLY. IN ADDITION, WE HAD THE LOG HUT, A BRAND NEW FOOD SERVICE. A SIGNIFICANT ONE SHOULD INCREASE OUR REVENUES A LOT. IF YOU GO ON TO THE GIFT SHOP, THAT STORY IS THE VERY SAME. WE'RE MAKING $1.27 A VISITOR, BUT LOOK HOW MUCH IT'S GOING UP. IF YOU LOOK AT BEFORE WE HAD A GENERAL SERVICES MANAGER, GUEST SERVICES MANAGER TO AFTER GUEST SERVICES MANAGER, THE INCOME IN OUR IN OUR CONCESSIONS IS LIKE NIGHT AND DAY. BUT WITH THE WHAT WHAT WE HAVE NOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO BEEF IT UP A LITTLE BIT, WE SHOULD BE MAKING $1.67 INSTEAD OF $1.27, WHICH IS ANOTHER $60,000 IN REVENUE THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN YET. AND THEN IT JUST SHOWS THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT NEW ENTRANCE AND GIFT SHOP THAT'S ALMOST FOUR TIMES LARGER IN RETAIL SPACE THAN OUR CURRENT GIFT SHOP, WHICH THREE PEOPLE ARE IN THERE AND NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO SHOP THERE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST NO SPACE. SO IT'S SO IT'S CRITICAL. THEN FUNLAND. FUNLAND. I REMAINED AS OPTIMISTIC AS I'VE EVER BEEN ABOUT THE REVENUE GENERATION POWER OF FUNLAND. IF WE CAN GET THE LOG UP GOING THIS YEAR, IF WE CAN GET THE OCTOPUS CONSISTENT, I THINK OUR OUR REVENUE THAT ALREADY JUMPED UP TO $70,000 OF REVENUE WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE CAN BE DOUBLE. AND MORE THAN THAT. AND IF IT SHOWS THE PROMISE THAT I BELIEVE IT HAS, THEN IT'S ADDING A MINI GOLF COURSE OR WHATEVER ELSE AND WATCHING THAT GO UP AGAIN AND AGAIN. FINALLY, THIS IMPORTANT ONE IS INCREASING TICKET SALES. AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'VE BEEN INCREASING OUR TICKET SALES. WE'RE PROPOSING ANOTHER INCREASE THIS YEAR. AN INTERESTING ONE IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, AT THE SUGGESTION OF SOME OF YOU, THAT MAYBE WE RAISE OUR ADULT AND SENIOR PRICES UP A DOLLAR, BUT WE DO NOT RAISE OUR OUR CHILD PRICE UP AT ALL SO THAT FAMILIES HAVE A LITTLE EASIER TIME COMING IN. ARE RESIDENT WITH STAY THE SAME. YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED TO NOTE THAT THE RESIDENT TICKET WAS USED TO 555 TIMES THIS YEAR, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW OUR TICKET INCOME HAS INCREASED SO MUCH GIVEN OUR INCREASE IN PRICES. AND FINALLY, AND I JUST THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. AND EVERYBODY TELLS ME THIS WHENEVER I TALK ABOUT THAT WORKS WITH ZOOS, IT'S SO OBVIOUS. IT ALL COMES DOWN TO ATTENDANCE. ATTENDANCE. WE NEED TO INCREASE OUR ATTENDANCE. AND OUR ATTENDANCE IS HAS BEEN A LITTLE FLAT, WHICH HAS BEEN ENCOURAGING THAT IT HASN'T DECREASED A LOT GIVEN THAT WE HAVEN'T PROVIDED A LOT OF NEW THINGS. BUT THIS YEAR WE PROVIDED A LOT OF NEW THINGS, AND IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT IMPACTS OUR ATTENDANCE. AND SO EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS, CAFE SALES, FUNLAND, CONCESSION SALES, EVERYTHING GOES UP, OF COURSE, WITH ATTENDANCE. AND SO THAT'S CRITICAL. AND AN EXHIBIT LIKE ISLANDS AND NEW EXHIBITS IN THE FUTURE ARE GOING TO BE CONTINUE TO BE CRITICAL. EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS IS AN UNDERUSED RESOURCE. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT THIS SUMMER. WE'VE GOT SOME NEW PARTNERSHIPS THAT I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT SOMETIME THAT HOPEFULLY WILL KEEP OUR EDUCATION CENTER FULL MOST OF THE WINTER LONG. AND THIS IS ONE I'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETIME, BUT WE WON'T DO IT. TODAY IS THE FUTURE OF EVENTS AT THE ZOO, THE EXTRAORDINARY EVENT SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE IN FUNLAND AND THE LAND CLOSE BY

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WE HAVE 50 PLUS SEASONAL EMPLOYEES EACH YEAR. WE COULDN'T RUN OUR GOLF COURSE WITHOUT THEM. GO OVER ASSETS REALLY QUICK. OUR THREE COURSES SPAN OVER 500 ACRES. THAT INCLUDES 62 PUTTING GREENS, 47 BUILDINGS, TWO DRIVING RANGES, FIVE PRACTICE PUTTING GREENS.

WE HAVE THREE VERY LARGE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, A MASSIVE FLEET OF MAINTENANCE VEHICLES, 215 GOLF CARTS. WE STOCK. THIS IS EARLY SPRING OR SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, $550,000 IN GOLF MERCHANDISE. RIGHT NOW IT'S MORE LIKE 335,000. SO WE WE TRY TO TURN OVER AS MUCH MERCHANDISE AS WE CAN EVERY YEAR, SO WE CAN START FRESH THE NEXT YEAR. SO BY THE END OF OUR HOLIDAY SALE, IT'S WE'LL PROBABLY SELL ANOTHER HUNDRED OR SO THOUSAND. SO. SO OUR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES THIS YEAR PROJECTED REVENUES WERE ABOUT 4 MILLION. WE BROUGHT IN 5.2 MILLION. THERE IS A SLIGHT ASTERISK THERE BECAUSE THAT DOES INCLUDE 300,000 THAT CAME IN THROUGH OUR DRIVING RANGE MACHINES THAT WAS SITTING IN THE HOLDING ACCOUNT FOR A FEW YEARS. WE ITS CAME TO US, THE MONEY CAME TO US. IT'S A DIFFERENT CREDIT CARD PROCESSING SYSTEM. IT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE CITY. HOWEVER, THERE IS A LITTLE

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SOMETIMES THERE WAS PEOPLE WAITING OR THEY WERE SELLING CLUBS AND YOU HAD TO KIND OF YOU HAD TO WAIT. YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU HAD FIVE MINUTES BEFORE YOUR YOUR TEE TIME, BUT YOU'D GO AND YOU'D SIT IN LINE AND YOU COULDN'T GET YOUR BALL. NOW THAT THERE ARE MACHINES OUT OF BOTH OF THE RANGES, YOU CAN STILL GO INSIDE IF YOU'D LIKE TO USE CASH OR THEY HAVE A CREDIT CARD SYSTEM THAT THAT JUST AUTOMATICALLY YOU GO UP AUTOMATICALLY. YOU CAN EITHER DO A PUNCH CARD. YOU CAN YOU CAN BUY IT PUT LIKE PRELOAD A CERTAIN AMOUNT ONTO YOUR ACCOUNT. YOU BUY A MACHINE, IT INSTANTLY PUSHES OUT ALL THOSE BALLS. YOU CAN KEEP THEM UNTIL LATER OR WHATEVER. IT'S AN AMAZING THING AND IT HAS DONE SOME AMAZING THINGS FOR OUR REVENUE. BUT WITH THAT, WHEN THAT CREDIT CARD WAS SET UP, IT WAS A BRAND NEW ACCOUNT THAT WAS GETTING HELD INTO A CITY ACCOUNT. BUT THEY DIDN'T. THEY WEREN'T SURE WHERE THE CREDIT CARD MONEY WAS COMING FROM DOWN IN FINANCE. THEY WERE THEY WERE CONFUSED AT WHERE THIS AND IT WAS 100,001ST AND A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND. AND THEY FINALLY FIGURED OUT BECAUSE WE HAD SAID, WHERE'S WHY IS THIS ACCOUNT NOT SEEING ANY REVENUE? WE THOUGHT WE SEE PEOPLE OUT THERE ALL DAY. WHERE IS THAT FUNDING THAT REVENUE GOING TO? THROUGH DUE DILIGENCE AND WORK WITH OUR ACCOUNTANTS, WE DID FIND THAT IT WASN'T A HOLDING ACCOUNT. SO IT WAS A PRETTY AMAZING THING TO SEE THAT TWO YEARS WORTH OF THAT REVENUE SITTING IN THAT ACCOUNT CAME BACK AT 300,000. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE WELL OVER 100,000 A YEAR JUST ON THAT MACHINE ALONE. WE STILL ARE PROBABLY SELLING 20,000 A YEAR AT LEAST JUST IN CASH SALES. BUT THIS NEW MACHINE, THESE MACHINES THAT ARE OUT AT THESE FACILITIES HAVE BEEN AN ABSOLUTE GAME CHANGER FOR THE THE DRIVING RANGE. DID WE BUY THEM OR ARE THEY LEASED? WE DID BUY THEM, YES. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A OUT OF THAT 100 K A YEAR, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT FOR REPLACEMENT. RIGHT. YEAH. HOPEFULLY THEY LAST QUITE A LONG TIME. BUT THIS YEAR OUT AT SAGE LAKES WE'VE GOT OURS UP AND GOING. THE COST OF IT WAS PROBABLY AROUND 23, 25 GRAND AFTER WE GOT POWER OUT TO OUR DRIVING RANGE FROM OUR CLUBHOUSE AND OUR DRIVING RANGE. REVENUE LAST YEAR WAS 58,000, THIS YEAR 90,000. SO QUITE A BIG JUMP. IT'S ALREADY PAID FOR ITSELF. IT'S AWESOME. THE CONVENIENCE FACTOR IS AMAZING.

FUTURE FEE INCREASES. WE'RE CONTINUING TO RAISE OUR FEES SLIGHTLY THROUGH THE GOLF DIVISION EVERY YEAR, BECAUSE COSTS ARE GOING UP. THE PRICE OF A MOWER IS ASTRONOMICAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO A FANCY GREENS MOWER. AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION IN THE BANK. SO WE NEVER GO IN THE HOLE. THIS LAST FEBRUARY, WE GOLF DIVISION, WE WISH GOLF. OUR FISCAL YEAR STARTED APRIL 1ST OR MARCH 1ST INSTEAD OF IN OUR OFF SEASON BECAUSE WE GO WE GO IN THE HOLE EVERY YEAR AT THE START OF THE YEAR AND WE HAVE TO PAY INTEREST ON IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE SO WE CAN HAVE A STABLE FUND THERE AND NEVER GO IN THE RED. SEASON. PASS PRICES. THIS IS VERY INTERESTING HOW THEY'VE, ON AVERAGE, ONLY GONE UP $20 EVERY YEAR SINCE 1984. THIS YEAR IT'S GOING TO GO UP ABOUT 50 MORE DOLLARS. BUT IT IS NOT STOPPING PEOPLE FROM BUYING A GOLF PASS. THEY KNOW IT'S A GREAT DEAL. THEY HAVE GOT THEY HAVE THREE COURSES THAT THEY CAN PLAY WHERE IF YOU GO TO A NEIGHBORING TOWN, THEY MIGHT BE PAYING $800 FOR ONE COURSE. SO HAVING THREE GOLF COURSES IS AMAZING. PEOPLE LOVE IT. ANY THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT STILL COMPLAIN, HEY, YOUR PRICES WENT UP AND THEN THEY GO, JUST KIDDING. WE KNOW IT'S A GREAT DEAL. SO. YOUR GREEN FEE REVENUE HAS ALSO GONE UP THIS YEAR. FOR THOSE THAT DIDN'T BUY SEASON PASSES. SURPRISINGLY, BECAUSE WE SOLD 300 MORE SEASON PASSES THIS YEAR THAN WE DID LAST YEAR. THIS YEAR, GREEN FEE REVENUE WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO 1.3 MILLION, WHICH IS AWESOME. PEOPLE ARE PLAYING GOLF. THEY LOVE IT. LET'S TALK ABOUT MERCHANDISE SALES FOR A MINUTE. ONCE, ONCE COVID HIT, PEOPLE

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YEAH, I ACTUALLY MISSED ONE. WATER AND SEWER TO SAGE LAKES CLUBHOUSE. WE'RE DOING TRADE WITH PUBLIC WORKS, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE FULLY AWARE OF THEIR. THEY JUST GOT DONE DRILLING A TESLA OUT THERE RIGHT BY OUR KARCHER. IF WE'RE NOT AWARE THEY ARE PUTTING A NEW WELL FOR I BELIEVE IT'S MAINLY GOING TO SERVE THAT THAT LARGE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS 65TH FROM SAGE LAKES. WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT IT IS GOING TO BE PLACED ON SAGE SAGE PROPERTY. FOR THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO TRADE. WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRADE, BRINGING SEWER AND WATER INTO THE CLUBHOUSE THERE. WE HAVE ABOUT THREE MINUTES. CAN WE MAKE IT? YEP, YEP. OKAY. JUST DRIVING. THE FUTURE OF GOLF IN IDAHO FALLS. NEW POINT OF SALE SOFTWARE WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT NEXT YEAR. IF ANYONE'S TALKED TO A GOLFER IN THIS TOWN, WE HAVE A TEE TIME PROBLEM. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS BOOKED, WE'RE ALWAYS

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THIS IS EXCITING. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO JUST GO TO SOME GOLF COURSE CLUBHOUSES JUST TO HAVE BRUNCH AND NOT TO GOLF AT ALL. SO THERE'S SOME EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES THERE, AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT THERE'S SOME HEALTHY RESOURCE, JUST NEED SOME REALLY CLEVER MANAGEMENT. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M SORRY THAT THIS TURNED OUT TO BE AS TIGHT AS IT DID. THIS IS ALWAYS GOOD STUFF, AND IT'S HARD TO SEPARATE THE STORIES FROM THE REVENUE PICTURE. ONE SEEMS NAKED WITHOUT THE OTHER, SO IT'S HARD TO NOT HAVE A BOTH. SO PJ GIVING YOU 60 MINUTES WASN'T RIGHT. SO NEXT YEAR MAYBE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION EARLY ON AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET MORE. WE'LL MAKE DAVE GO SECOND. I'LL HAVE A SEPARATE SESSION ON A SATURDAY SOMETIME. ONE IMPORTANT WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME BUSINESS AND WE HAVE TO MAKE MOTIONS AND WE HAVE TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE 90S MAX. OKAY. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE. HOW IS YOUR HOW IS IT HIRING PART TIME PERSONNEL? YOUR SEASONAL PERSONNEL. ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE MEETING? YES, ABSOLUTELY. WELL, HOW COULD WE HELP THAT? BY BY PAYING THEM MORE? YEAH, PAYING THEM MORE IS. IT'S A SEASONAL JOB. I MEAN, I WAS A SEASONAL WORKER FOR A LOT OF YEARS. IT IS TOUGH TO FIND A JOB IN THE WINTER TIME. AND WE JUST ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOVE THE GOLF COURSE AND WANT TO COME BACK. OKAY. I'LL TELL YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES IT REALLY THE TOUGHEST IS SOME OF THE ACA STUFF THAT GOES ALONG WITH HOW MANY, HOW MANY MONTHS SOMEBODY CAN WORK AND THAT BEFORE THEY'RE A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE OR BEFORE THEY'RE OFFERED INSURANCE. YOU REALLY IT'S TAKEN IT SO THAT WE CAN NO LONGER HAVE SEASONAL EMPLOYEES THAT CAN WORK KIND OF YEAR ROUND UNTIL JOBS OPEN, THEY HAVE LIKE SIX MONTHS. THEN THEY HAVE TO BE LET GO. AND THAT HAS REALLY CAUSED SOME MAJOR ISSUES FOR US, FOR I KNOW IN MY TIME GROWING UP, YOU'VE GOT A JOB AT THE GOLF COURSE, YOU GOT TO PLAY FREE GOLF. IS THAT STILL THE FACT? OKAY, THAT WAS A PERK. THAT WAS THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO HIRING HIGH SCHOOL KIDS. THEN THEY GOT BASICALLY A SEASON PASS BY WORKING AT THE GOLF COURSE. WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE MANY EMPLOYEES WITHOUT THAT. OKAY, I DO HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS ESSENTIALLY MORE INFORMATION THAN WE KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD OUR FOURTH QUARTER OR 2025 CLOSEOUT. AND THIS IS THIS DOES HAVE THE CLOSEOUT NUMBERS IN IT.

SO I THINK I CAN GET FROM DIRECTOR OR THE ZOOM NUMBER. BUT FOR GOLF WHAT IS THE AMOUNT THAT WE ARE RUNNING SHORT? I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE IN YEARS PRIOR WE SAID, OH, WE'RE 500,000 SHORT AND THEN WE'RE A LITTLE LESS SHORT. WHAT NUMBER WOULD YOU LOOK FOR SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY INTEREST TO THE O OVER THE WINTERTIME? OVER THE WINTER? IT'S BEEN CLOSE TO A MILLION. SO THAT IS WHAT WE GET DOWN TO BEFORE WE OPEN IN FEBRUARY IS -1,000,000.

-1,000,000. YES. YES. OKAY. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE LOSING -500. SO IT'S -1,000,000. BUT AND WE HAVE AND WE I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHY. BUT IN THE MEANTIME WE DO PAY INTEREST ON IT. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT. IT DOES CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

SOMETIMES IT DEPENDS ON WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR MOWERS, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PUSH THOSE BACK BECAUSE SOMETIMES THERE ARE TWO YEARS OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO LEARN FROM THE DEPARTMENTS. AND I'M JUST SORRY WE'RE ON A

[Mayor, CIty Council]

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RADFORD. BURTENSHAW. YES. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE

[Executive Sessions(s)]

DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS I. CLARKSON. YES. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I BELIEVE THAT WE'LL SEE SOMEONE ON THE PHONE IN THERE SHORTLY FOR OUR VERY FIRST CONSULTATION.

THANK YOU. I GUESS I'LL DECLARE WE ARE ADJ

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