Oct 09, 2025 City Council Meeting

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ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET OUR MEETING CALLED TO ORDER.

[1. Call to Order]

THANK YOU. MAYOR, COUNCIL PRESIDENT BURTENSHAW HERE.

COUNCILOR RADFORD. PRESENT. COUNCILOR. DINGMAN HERE.

COUNCILOR. FREEMAN HERE, COUNCILOR. FRANCIS HERE.

COUNCILOR. LARSON HERE. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR BEING HERE.

AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE NON CITY STAFF FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE.

IT'S NICE TO HAVE PEOPLE HERE. SOMETIMES THE ELECTION CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA INTEREST, BUT IF IT'S NOT ELECTION RELATED AND YOU'RE HERE FOR SOME OTHER REASON, THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S GREAT TOO.

SO THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN OUR MEETING.

FIRST MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER HERE IS 2025.

THE VERY FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I'VE ASKED OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO MY LEFT HERE, COUNCILOR THEO DINGMAN, MICHELLE DINGMAN, TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE. THE FLAG IS UP HERE.

IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO JOIN WITH US, WE'D LOVE THAT.

PLEASE FOLLOW ME. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

[3. Public Comment]

NOT VERY THICK, BUT IT'S THAT'S ABOUT AN INCH OF PAPERS.

WE MAKE THE THE THAT'S THE EXPANDED AGENDA. THE OTHER AGENDA, THE PAPER VERSION THAT WE FOLLOW ALONG IS EIGHT PAGES.

THAT IS AVAILABLE. I THINK WE USUALLY HAVE SOME EXTRA COPIES SPRINKLED AROUND THERE IN A LITTLE POCKET RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF THE CHAMBERS.

HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT THE FULL VERSION THEN THAT WOODEN FRAMED QR CODE OVER THERE ON THE WALL JUST POINT YOUR PHONE THERE AND IT'LL BRING UP TONIGHT'S AGENDA OR A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SCROLL TO TONIGHT'S DATE, AND THEN YOU CAN GET THE FULL AGENDA.

AND THE FULL VERSION INCLUDES THE DOCUMENTATION, THE MEMOS FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND THE THE DOCUMENTATION, THE CONTRACTS, THE ORDINANCES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE THERE.

SO WITH THAT THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

IF YOU HAVE IF SOMETHING IS IS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

THEN I SUPPOSE YOU COULD MENTION IT, BUT IF IT'S PART OF A HEARING FOR TONIGHT, YOU WANT TO SAVE YOUR COMMENTS FOR THE HEARING AND NOT USE PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER GUIDELINES ASK YOU TO KEEP IT PG THAN YOU CAN, BECAUSE WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO OFTEN USE THESE MEETINGS AS A WAY OF LEARNING ABOUT THE CIVIC PROCESS. WE WANT TO GIVE THEM GOOD AND NOBLE IDEAS ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY.

NOT NOT ANYTHING ELSE. SO ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A POINT ON THAT.

I HEARD SOMETHING LAST NIGHT. THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING.

PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON THINGS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT A HEARING AND THEN THEY CAN COME, THEY CAN COMMENT ON THAT DURING THE PERIOD. ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA PEOPLE CAN COMMENT ON? THAT WAS COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTOOD BY MANY PEOPLE IN A FORUM LAST NIGHT, INCLUDING ALL FIVE CANDIDATES.

OKAY, WELL THEN IT'S GOOD THAT YOU CLARIFIED THAT.

THANK YOU. THE GUIDELINES ARE WILL WILL BRING UP ANOTHER THING AND THAT IS IF THE THING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS PART OF A LEGAL PROCESS THAT THE CITY IS INVOLVED IN OR THAT YOU'RE INVOLVED IN WITH THE CITY.

THEN THAT'S PROBABLY ALSO NOT APPROPRIATE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT HERE, BECAUSE THOSE THINGS CAN COMPLICATE OR INVALIDATE CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE LEGAL PROCESS.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY HERE WHO CAN HELP US WITH THE WITH THAT, SHOULD THAT BE NEEDED. AND SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME FORWARD, YOU ARE WELCOME TO.

YEAH I MEAN IT TOUGH, BUT WE'D LOVE TO KNOW YOUR NAME.

AND IF YOU'RE A CITY RESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR. SABLAN. JUST TURN THAT ON. CHARLES PARK, CITY RESIDENT.

IN DECADES SINCE I BROUGHT SCOUTS HERE FOR CITIZENSHIP IN COMMUNITY MERIT BADGE.

NEVER BEEN TO A COUNCIL MEETING SINCE. THANK YOU FOR SERVING.

I'M JUST REALLY IMPRESSED THAT SOMEBODY WOULD WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO DO WHAT YOU DO? SO I THINK THE WORLD'S A BETTER PLACE FOR YOU.

I'M ASTOUNDED TO SEE THERE'S ONLY FOUR MAYORS IN MY LIFETIME, BUT CAMPBELL AND WIND

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THAT'S SOME OF THE COMMENTARY WE'VE HAD ON HERE.

ANYTHING ELSE? GREAT. SOMEONE ELSE COMING? HERE.

HELLO. MY NAME IS JOSHUA PINKSTON. I LIVE HERE IN IDAHO FALLS.

I LIVE JUST BEHIND EDGEMONT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND THE REASON FOR COMING TONIGHT IS BECAUSE MYSELF AND MANY OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE OF SCHOOL, HAVING JUST PLACED WHAT THEY'RE CALLING PRIVACY FENCE, WHICH IS A FENCE COVERING ALONG THE SOUTH FENCE OF THE ENTIRE SCHOOL. THE FENCE BLOCKS THE VIEW OF THE SCHOOL AS WELL AS THERE'S QUITE A FEW WHERE YOU CALL THESE ADVERTISEMENTS.

AND SO NOW QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ARE THAT'S THEIR VIEW.

THEY LOOK OUT THE FRONT WINDOW AND IT'S JUST A WALL OF ADVERTISEMENTS.

THE GOAL FROM THE, FROM THE SCHOOL'S PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THIS IS A WAY FOR THEM TO EARN MONEY FOR THE UPCOMING.

THEY WANT TO GET A NEW PLAYGROUND. HOWEVER, THE PUBLIC HAS A NUMBER OF CONCERNS WITH THE SCREEN FENCING INCLUDING THAT THE SCREEN OBSTRUCTS THE VIEWS OF RESIDENTS WHO PROVIDE NATURAL SURVEILLANCE OF THE SCHOOL'S CAMPUS AFTER HOURS WHEN THERE ARE STAFF THERE TO MONITOR THINGS, IT CREATES AN INVITE.

WE FEEL THAT IT INVITES CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AS IT IS NOW.

WE CAN'T SEE INTO THE PARK AFTER PEOPLE GO HOME AND SO PEOPLE CAN ENGAGE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY SUCH AS YOU KNOW, SOME DRUGS OR OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I DID REACH OUT TO THE RESOURCE OFFICER, OFFICER PRINCE, WHO IS THE RESOURCE OFFICER FOR THE SCHOOL, AND HE SAID THAT WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, THERE WAS AN OCCURRENCE OF DRUGS BEING SOLD AT THE SCHOOL.

WE IMAGINE THAT THAT WILL INCREASE IF THERE'S NO ONE THERE TO OBSERVE IT.

AND THE LOCAL POPULATION CAN'T SEE TO SEE. ALSO, WE FEEL THAT IT DECREASES.

A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE VOICED THAT. IT CREATES A CONSTANT VISUAL CUE SUGGESTING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNSAFE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING, WHY DO WE NEED A PRIVACY FENCE IN THAT AREA? AND IN TALKING TO OFFICER PRINCE, HE ALSO SAID THAT IN THE LAST YEAR, THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE OCCURRENCE OF PEOPLE OF A REPORTING OF SOMEBODY THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN, LIKE, KIND OF JUST LINGERING AROUND THE CAMPUS.

BUT THAT THIS WAS ONLY A11 TIME IN THE LAST YEAR, BASICALLY.

SO WE DON'T FEEL THAT THAT'S A GOOD ARGUMENT FOR MEETING THE SCREENS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT DISRUPTS THE, THE OVERALL ESTHETIC OF OUR COMMUNITY.

MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT IT'S AN EYESORE.

THEY DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS. AND OF COURSE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE IT WORSE IS IS THE ADVERTISEMENTS.

MOST OF THE FENCE IS BLACK, OPAQUE BLACK MESH FENCING LIKE THIS COVERING.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME GRAY PARTS THAT HAVE THE SCHOOL LOGO AND THEN JUST A LARGE BRICK OF JUST WHITE ADVERTISEMENTS.

AND SO ANYWAYS SO I WAS HOPING TO I DID ADDRESS THIS WITH THE PRINCIPAL TODAY.

IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN ANY SORT OF ADJUSTMENTS OR COMPROMISING IN ANY WAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, BUT I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND BRING THIS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, AND I HOPE THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO ADDRESS THIS MORNING.

MR. PEARSON, I'M GOING TO I DOUBT YOU WANT TO STAY FOR THE WHOLE MEETING, BUT.

AND I'M STUCK UP HERE, BUT I CAN'T TALK. EMILY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO JOT DOWN IF YOU HAVE A SPARE PIECE OF PAPER? THE PHONE NUMBER FOR MY OFFICE. AND WE'LL HAVE HAVE YOU CALL IN AND VISIT WITH SOMEONE WHO CAN MAYBE GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS.

BECAUSE THIS IS PRIMARILY. PARDON? OH, MARGARET, YOU ARE HERE.

SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU. OKAY. NEVER MIND. THANK YOU.

MARGARET WILL GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS. SHE IS A CITY EMPLOYEE, BUT SHE WAS A FORMER SCHOOL DISTRICT EMPLOYEE, AND SHE HAS A LOT OF INSIGHT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DIRECTLY CAN CONTROL INDIRECTLY.

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PERHAPS IN THE HALLWAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. WE DON'T ALWAYS GET TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS, BUT WE LOVE IT WHEN WE CAN.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SHARE SOME THOUGHTS? ALL RIGHT. I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE A LOZENGE IN MY MOUTH.

I HAVE A COLD. THIS IS HELPING WITH THE SORE THROAT THING, SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU HEAR ME RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. WE WILL THEN GO TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[4. CONSENT AGENDA]

OKAY. COUNCIL FRANCIS. YEAH. I WANT TO REMOVE ITEM C OUT OF THE KLEINSCHMIDT.

PAPERWORK FOR LICENSING, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, REGULAR AGENDA.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST WE JUST MAKE IT ITEM A ON THE REGULAR AGENDA.

AND THEN EVERYTHING SLIDES DOWN ONE LETTER. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING OUT OF RANGE.

OKAY, EMILY, THAT MEANS A LOT OF RE-OPTIMIZING.

IF WE JUST MADE IT ITEM E, THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.

HOWEVER WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM POWER HERE WHO IS TRYING TO NOT STAY ALL NIGHT.

AND SO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MOVING INTO A WILL THAT WORK? WE CAN WE CAN MOVE IT TO A OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE THAT TO ITEM A. AND THEN IF YOU'RE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THAT THAT'D BE GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO READ THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IT NOW EXISTS, WITHOUT THAT ITEM ON IT INTO THE RECORD. AND THEN WE'LL TURN TO OUR LIAISON TO TO MUNICIPAL SERVICES, OUR CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT, LISA BRADSHAW, TO MAKE THE MOTION.

OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT THREE ON CONSENT. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

IT'S FOR THE PURCHASE OF A REPLACEMENT JOHN DEERE BACKHOE FOR PUBLIC WORKS, FOR A TOTAL OF $169,790.73.

SECOND ITEM IS FROM PUBLIC WORKS. IT'S A BID AWARD FOR SEWER LIFT STATION BACKUP GENERATORS TO ARCO ELECTRIC IDAHO FOR $166,853. AND THEN FROM MY OFFICE, THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK, WE HAVE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES FROM JULY 10TH, 22ND, 28TH AND 31ST, 2025. I WOULD MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE, ACCEPT OR RECEIVE ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED. SECOND. THANK YOU.

WE NOW HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. CITY CLERK, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A VOTE.

BURTENSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS I. FREEMAN.

YES. LARSEN. YES. RADFORD. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THAT TAKES US TO PART FIVE OF OUR REGULAR AGENDA.

[5.A.1) Frontier Center Lobby Expansion Signage]

WE HAVE RICHARD MALLOY HERE WHO CAN REPRESENT IDAHO FALLS POWER.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO TURN FIRST TO COUNCILOR FRANCIS, WHO PULLED THIS UP TO IDENTIFY FOR EVERYBODY WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT WHY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO TALK ABOUT VERBALLY.

YEAH. AND IT'S JUST REASON ONE THAT I OFTEN DO THIS IS I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S A BIG A BIG CONTRACT.

AND IT SHOULD BE. IT INVOLVES A BIG PROJECT. THE RELICENSING EXPLAINED IN THE PUBLIC RECORD WHAT THIS MONEY IS FOR AND WHAT KLEINSCHMIDT DOES.

AND MR. MALLOY CAN DO THAT VERY BRIEFLY. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ELABORATE.

AND THEN THE SECOND REASON IS THERE'S SOME WHAT I WOULD CALL BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT.

THAT IS AWKWARD FOR ME. SO MR. MALLOY WILL EXPLAIN HOW I SHOULD READ IT.

PERFECT. MR. MALLOY IS NOT THE GENERAL MANAGER, BUT HE IS THE ONE TASKED WITH THE RELICENSING PROJECT.

AND SO HE IS SORT OF THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT FOR THE CITY ON THIS, SO.

TERRIFIC. OKAY. TEACH US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.

SURE. SO KLEINSCHMIDT HAS BEEN OUR RELICENSING CONSULTANT FOR ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND SO IT'S KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF THEIR SERVICES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 26.

THIS IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A HEAVY YEAR FOR THEM.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE DRAFTING THE LICENSE EXHIBITS.

A LOT OF YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE THE STUDIES THIS YEAR, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE STUDY REPORTS FOR FERC REVIEW AND ACTUALLY DRAFTING THE LICENSE APPLICATION THAT WILL BE GOING IN FOR ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.

SO THIS IS KIND OF THE HEAVY LIFT YEAR, SO TO SPEAK.

YOU STILL HAVE ABOUT THREE MORE YEARS TO GO BEFORE WE ACTUALLY LICENSE.

AFTER THE LICENSE IS SUBMITTED NEXT YEAR, THEN IT'LL BE TWO YEARS THAT STAKEHOLDERS WILL ENGAGE WITH FERC AND THE MITIGATIONS, THAT TYPE OF THING. THEY'LL BE BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN THERE'LL BE STIPULATIONS PLACED UPON THE LICENSE BEFORE PURCHASE THE LICENSE IN 29. THIS THIS YEAR, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR IS SCOPE OF WORK WITH KLEINSCHMIDT IS A LITTLE OVER 1.1 MILLION.

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AND SO THERE IS THERE IS A NUMBER OF LINE ITEMS, EACH ONE OF THEM HAVING A DOLLAR FIGURE TIED TO IT IN THE PROPOSAL.

AND EACH LINE HAS A 15% CONTINGENCY THAT ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT NOT EXPLICITLY STATED WHEN I TALK WITH CT OR TAP INTO THAT 50% CONTINGENCY WITHOUT A DIALOG WITH US.

AND SO THE 1.1 MILLION THAT YOU SEE IS THE FINAL DOLLAR FIGURE IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THE PEO WILL BE ISSUED FOR FOR FY 26.

IT IS A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. COUNCILOR RADFORD, I WANT TO KNOW IF I CAN GET TO THE FISH ASSEMBLY REPORT FOR MY FISHING HABIT.

IS THAT. JUST TELL ME WHAT THAT ACTUALLY, I CAN TELL YOU.

THE BIG PROBLEMS THAT THEY CAUGHT WERE JUST IN THE IMPOUNDMENT OF THE LOWER PARTS OF THE WORLD.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GO CATCH SOME 24 INCH POUNDS, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.

BUT THE THEY JUST FINISHED UP THE LAST ROUND OF STUDIES.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THE REPORT OR THE DRAFT REPORT.

SO WE JUST HAVE THE RAW DATA RIGHT NOW. SO I WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET A COPY OF THE REPORT.

THIS ISSUE. PUBLIC RECORD. ANYBODY CAN GET THAT COPY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MALLOY? YES, COUNCILOR FREEMAN.

OH, YES. AS ONE OF OUR LIAISONS TO IDAHO'S POWER, IDAHO FALLS POWER, WE WILL TURN TO YOU TO MAKE THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WOULD MOVE THAT COUNCIL, APPROVE THE CONTRACT THAT CONTINUES.

PHASE FOUR HYDRO RELICENSING WORK FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 WITH KLEINSCHMIDT ASSOCIATES FOR A TOTAL OF $1,177,650 AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE OUR HAD OUR LIAISONS. SECOND, THAT CITY CLERK, WILL YOU CONDUCT THE VOTE? BRADFORD. AYE. LARSON. YES. FREEMAN. YES. FRANCIS.

AYE. DINGMAN. YES. BURTENSHAW. YES. MOTION CARRIES.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE THAT, MR. MALLOY. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT DEPARTMENT WITH BUSINESS BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IS MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR, PAM ALEXANDER, HERE WITH A SINGLE ITEM RELATED TO THE FRONTIER LOBBY EXPANSION PROJECT.

IT'S SIGNAGE IN THE EXPANSION. AND SHE'S ALSO GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON SOME OF THE FINANCES AS WELL, SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A LARGER CONTEXT FOR UNDERSTANDING THIS.

OUR LIAISONS FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES ARE COUNCILOR BURTENSHAW AND COUNCILOR LARSON, AND THEY WILL BE CARRYING THE ITEM IN TERMS OF MOTION MAKING AND, AND EXPLAINING THEIR RATIONALE FOR SUPPORT OR NOT WHEN THE TIME COMES.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. YES.

THIS EVENING WE ARE ASKING APPROVAL TO ISSUE A CONTRACT TO GRAPHICS IMAGE MFG FOR A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $256,250. NOW, THIS IS BASED ON WHAT WE CALL A ROUGH ORDER OF ESTIMATE.

AND SO A LOT OF TIMES FIRMS WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE WORKING IN INITIAL PHASE OF A PROJECT.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ADDING SIGNAGE AND ADDING A LIGHT FIXTURE, A LIGHTING FIXTURE INSIDE THE LOBBY EXPANSION.

THIS BEING EXPANDED FOR ADA RESTROOMS AND ALSO BEING ABLE TO BRING PEOPLE IN OUT FROM THE COLD OR IN COLD WEATHER FOR OUR SHOWS THAT WE HAVE THERE.

THE CIVIC PARTY AT THE FRONTIER CENTER. SO THIS ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE IS GENERALLY USED AS AN INITIAL PROJECT PHASE.

AND RIGHT NOW WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION SOLUTIONS, THEY'RE SAYING NOW IS NOT TOO SOON TO START LOOKING AT THE SIGNAGE AND THE LIGHTING THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE EXPANSION. SO WE ISSUED A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS. THEY'RE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

WE HAD AN EVALUATION TEAM REVIEW. WE DID INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS WITH BOTH SUBMITTERS AND THE EVALUATION TEAM.

THAT CONSISTED OF THE ARCHITECTS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS INCLUDED ARCHITECTURE AND STUDIO I, OUR FRONTIER CENTER AUDITORIUM MANAGER, MYSELF AS THE DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT AND A MEMBER OF OUR CIVIC FOUNDATION REVIEW THE PROPOSALS, WE CONDUCTED THE INTERVIEWS AND WE ARE THE EVALUATION TEAM IS RECOMMENDING THE CONTRACT GO TO GRAPHICS MFG.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY SUBMITTED WHAT WAS CALLED A ROUGH ORDER OF ESTIMATE.

THEY WANT TO SUBMIT THAT BEFORE THEY START DOING THE FABRICATION.

AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE FABRICATION OF ALL OF THE SIGNS AND THE LIGHTING FIXTURE.

THAT ROUGH ORDER OF MAGNITUDE HAS AN UPPER LEVEL AND A LOWER LEVEL.

SO IF YOU SEE ON YOUR PACKET THE THE ROUGH ESTIMATE WAS BETWEEN 100 AND 60 4000 TO 205,000 PLUS OR -25%.

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A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO SAY IF IT'S OKAY.

MAYOR I'D LIKE TO UPDATE JUST THE COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE FURNITURE CENTER SINCE JUNE, BUT BACK IN JUNE WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION.

WE ALSO TALKED AND WE GAVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION. AND I WANT TO THANK OUR ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, CHRIS CANFIELD. HE'S BEEN HELPING US WITH THE WITH THE PROJECT AS WELL.

AND WHAT WE INCLUDED IN THAT DISCUSSION IN JUNE WAS THE THE THE EXPANSION LOBBY SIGNAGE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE AN ESTIMATED 300 $300,000.

AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, HERE IT IS, IS A LITTLE UNDER THAT.

AND ALSO AS FAR AS THE PROJECT GOES WE HAVE A VARIETY OF GOOD NEWS HERE.

SO I'M GOING TO RATTLE OFF JUST SOME, SOME DOLLAR AMOUNTS REAL QUICKLY.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE'RE AT.

SO WE DO HAVE THE, CREDIT UNION. THEY HAVE DONATED A BUNCH OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF $4.4 MILLION.

THE DONATIONS THAT WE RECEIVED ARE OVER 87% OF THIS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AT ABOUT 6.3 MILLION.

AND THAT IS, LIKE I SAID, 87%. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ARPA DOLLARS THAT WERE APPROVED AT 900,000.

AND A COUPLE OF OTHER GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE DID RECEIVE A CHC FOUNDATION GRANT, AND WE RECEIVED THE SECOND OF THE SECOND AND FINAL CHECK LAST WEEK FOR HALF A MILLION THAT WAS PLEDGED FOR THIS PROJECT THAT'S BEING USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN ALSO, I CHECKED IN WITH OUR CAPITAL CAMPAIGN, AND RIGHT NOW THE BALANCE THAT THEY HAVE IS A LITTLE UNDER $500,000 IN THE BANK.

THEY ARE PROJECTING ABOUT $616,000 BY THE END OF 2029.

THERE'S PLEDGES THAT ARE COMING IN IN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THE PROJECT. IT HAS BEEN A VERY INTERESTING PROJECT, AS WELL AS JUST SUCH A WE GET SO MANY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE FROM PRIVATE DONATIONS IS JUST SPEAKS TO THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS PROJECT. AND IT'S JUST BEEN MY PLEASURE TO WORK ON IT.

AND SO WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, WELL, THEN I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR LIAISONS TO SEE BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY MOTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY OR ANY POINTS YOU WANT TO MAKE, I.

I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO SAY. RECENTLY WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE A TOUR OF THE FRONTIER CENTER, AND IT IS COMING ALONG BEAUTIFULLY. IT IS. I TOOK SOME OF THE ARTISTIC RENDERINGS THAT AS WE HAD GONE OUT TO ASK FOR THESE DONORS, WE TOOK ARTISTIC RENDERINGS.

AND YOU'RE ALWAYS THERE'S ALWAYS A MOMENT THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD AND CAN WE BUILD THIS? AND WE HAD CONFIDENCE THAT WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO BUILD WAS WHAT THE ARTISTIC RENDERING SHOWED.

AND YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE. HERE'S WHAT IT SAID IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND HERE'S WHAT IT IS LOOKING LIKE.

I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO SEE WHAT FRONTIER.

THE FRONTIER CENTER LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S DONE.

I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A BIG CONTRIBUTION BETWEEN FRONTIER CHC AND THE REMAINING PRIVATE DONORS.

LIKE BIG PERSONAL CONTRIBUTIONS FROM PEOPLE. AND AND I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE ON IT.

IT REPRESENTS WHAT THE ARCHITECT SAID IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T HAPPEN TO HAVE THE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF THEM AND WE CALL IT A LIGHTING FIXTURE. IT'S LIKE THE ENTIRE CEILING. IT'S AS IF WE WERE SAYING, HERE'S THE FLOORING, BUT IT'S ON THE CEILING, SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A HANGING FIXTURE. IT'S HUNDREDS OF TUBES COMING DOWN OFF OF THE CEILING AS PART OF THIS ARTISTIC PACKAGE THAT WAS DONATED, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, FROM FRONTIER CHC AND THE PRIVATE DONORS.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR THE GRAND OPENING BECAUSE I, I THINK THAT IT IS NOT A CASE OF OVERPROMISE AND UNDER-DELIVER.

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I'M EXCITED FOR THIS. SO I'M. I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO GIVE A COMMENT.

BUT BUT I AM EXCITED. COUNCILMAN FRANCIS. YEAH, I'VE GOT TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE THAT FRONTIER CENTER IS AN ICON.

IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 70 YEARS. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DESIGN PARADIGM THAT'S 22 CENTURY, THAT'S BEYOND THE 21ST CENTURY DESIGN.

SO I'M PROUD SOMETIMES WHEN GOVERNMENT IS PAYING FOR SOMETHING, WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO WANT TO BE VERY FRUGAL AND VERY YOU KNOW, INSTITUTIONAL, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO BUY THINGS THAT ARE DURABLE AND THAT'LL LAST AND CAN THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL.

WHEN YOU ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH DONATED DOLLARS AND PARTICULARLY IN THIS ARTS SETTING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY AND HOPEFULLY BE INSPIRED BY. I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THE BEAUTY OF A PLACE LIKE THAT, THAT HOUSES THE ARTS TO BE ABLE TO INSPIRE PEOPLE TO AND ENNOBLE THEIR SPIRITS JUST A LITTLE BIT.

SO THIS IS VERY HEALTHY FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S NOT COSTING TAXPAYERS A DIME IN THAT SENSE, OR AT LEAST THE ARTISTIC ELEMENTS ARE NOT. THE CITY IS PUTTING IN A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY, BUT NOT NOWHERE NEAR WHAT IT IS.

THIS IS THE THIRD OF, I THINK. IS IT THE THIRD OF THREE OR THIRD OF FOUR? THIS IS THE SECOND, SECOND OR THIRD EXPANSIONS.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE PHASES. WE'VE REPLACED THE SEATS OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

WE'VE REDONE THE ELEMENTS OF THE STAGE. WE'VE DONE SOME REDONE SOME ELEMENTS OF SPRUCED UP A FEW SPOTS.

BUT NOW WE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING THE EXPERIENCE.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU ARRIVE IN THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THEY SAY.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THAT NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE EFFORTS AND THE COORDINATION AND LEADERSHIP OF DIRECTOR ALEXANDER, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THE DAIS WHO PARTICIPATED IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER IN THE FUNDRAISING ASPECTS OF THIS.

AND SO WHILE WE DID USE A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO GUIDE AND HELP AND DIRECT THAT, THERE WAS A PRIVATE FOUNDATION THAT WAS SET UP TO RECEIVE THOSE GRANTS AND LOANS AND NOT LOANS, BUT DONATIONS. WE STILL HAD COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE HELPING TO PUSH THIS AND MOVE THIS FUNDRAISING PROJECT ALONG.

SO IT REALLY IS A LABOR OF LOVE FROM BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SECTORS.

SO I I'M RAMBLING. SORRY. ARE WE READY? I'M EXCITED.

YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO. AND YOU MENTIONED GRAND OPENING. WE'RE LOOKING AT FIRST OF NEXT YEAR OR MID NEXT YEAR.

PROBABLY FEBRUARY OR MARCH. OKAY. SINCE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY IT, YOU JINX IT.

SO LET'S LET'S HOPE BY EASTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR BURTENSHAW, WE'LL TURN TO YOU.

I WOULD MOVE THAT COUNCIL, APPROVE THE FRONTIER CENTER LOBBY EXPANSION SIGNAGE CONTRACT TO GRAPHICS ETHICS FOR A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF $256,250. SECOND. THANK YOU. CITY CLERK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.

FRANCIS. AYE. FREEMAN. YES. DINGMAN. YES. LARSON.

YES. BRADFORD. NAY. BURTENSHAW. YES. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BRADFORD, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON ANYTHING? OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN TO WHAT USED TO BE ITEM B IS NOW ITEM C ON PART FIVE OF THE AGENDA.

[5.B.1) Change Order 1 with Iron Horse Trucking for Wastewater Sludge Hauling]

WE HAVE OUR ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, CHRIS CANFIELD HERE REPRESENTING THE DEPARTMENT. HE WILL INTRODUCE EACH ITEM AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS THEM AND OUR LIAISONS WHO WILL BE HELPING US, OUR COUNSELORS GET IT ALL MIXED UP.

I HAVEN'T MEMORIZED REALLY WELL LAST TIME, BUT IT'S COUNCILOR FRANCIS AND LARSON.

I PRETTY MUCH COUNCILOR LARSON IS GOING TO BE PART OF EVERY MEETING MULTIPLE TIMES.

IT JUST IT'S LIKE THAT THIS YEAR. IT'S LIKE KIND OF HOW IT WORKED OUT.

YEAH. IT IS. ALL RIGHT, MR. CANFIELD. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. SO THE FIRST ITEM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO BRING IS THE CHANGE ORDER, NUMBER ONE FOR IRONHORSE TRUCKING WITH OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SO ONE OF OUR BYPRODUCTS THAT THE TREATMENT PLANT IS SLUDGE, AND WE CALL IT EVERY YEAR TO QUANTUM FIELDS WITH MONITORING OF CONTRACTS, AS GOVERNMENTS WANT TO SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS THAT THEY CAN GLEAN FROM IT.

SO OUR CONTRACT WITH IRONHORSE TO SUPPLEMENT THE HAULING THAT WE DO WITH THE TREATMENT PLANT IS FOR $243,000.

AND LAST YEAR WE HAD ONE BIDDER. AND BASICALLY, AS WE'RE WRAPPING UP OUR DEWATERING PROJECT AT THAT PLANT, IT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO GET THE SLUDGE POND DOWN, BECAUSE IT IS AN OLDER GENERATOR AT THE PLANT THAT WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE ULTIMATELY IN THE FUTURE. BUT SO WE'VE SEEN A NEED TO EXPAND ON THIS CONTRACT AT THIS TIME WHILE FIELDS ARE AVAILABLE THIS FALL TO GET

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ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBERS ANY. DO ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I REMEMBERED THIS WHEN COMING FORWARD.

SO THE IDEA WAS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HALF OF THIS BECAUSE OF THE DEWATERING, BUT IT'S IT'S NOT WORKING OUT THAT WAY, OR IT'S JUST THAT WE DO THIS IN THE SPRING AND IN THE FALL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALL TAKEN CARE OF.

SO BEFORE THE WINTER HITS. YEAH. SO BASICALLY AS THE WINTER COMES, THE THE HARDEN TO THE WINTER, WE'RE STORING THE SLUDGE DEWATERING PROJECT IS OPERATIONAL.

WE JUST COMPLETED OUR SEVEN DAY OPERATIONAL TEST AS PART OF THAT ACCEPTANCE PROCESS.

THE SLUDGE AND IT WILL IT WILL INTERCEPT THE FLOW TO THE SLUDGE AS WE PROCESS OUR TREATMENT IN THE FUTURE.

THE BANK WAS CLOSED DOWN AND REMOVED. THIS WAS A GOAL THAT WE HAD KIND OF IDENTIFIED WITH TREATMENT PERSONNEL.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST OPTIMIZE THE ABILITY TO GET RID OF IT THIS FALL.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I EVEN JUST HAVING IT SAID ONE MORE TIME HELPED.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO WITH OUR LIAISONS, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE OR ANY INTRODUCTION YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES HERE? JUST THAT THE DEWATERING IS JUST A PROGRESSION OF DOING THINGS BETTER, CHEAPER, EASIER YOU KNOW, THAN GETTING IT ON THE FIELDS IS MUCH EASIER THAN IT IS WITH SLUDGE, FOR EXAMPLE.

IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST LOTS OF REASONS WHY THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.

WELL, I'M MENTIONING TAKING WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT SLUDGE AND MATERIAL.

TWO FIELDS. WILL YOU JUST COMMENT ON THERE ARE RULES? WE DON'T PUT THAT ON FIELDS WHERE FOOD WILL BE GROWN.

CORRECT. SO WE DO, WE'RE MONITORED BY DICK. WE WORK WITH THE FARMERS TO MONITOR THE AMOUNT OF SLUDGE THAT WE DELIVER AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FIELDS, BUT THERE I WANT TO SAY A SECONDARY PRODUCT THAT FARMERS ARE GROWING.

SO THERE'S NOTHING NO PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE DELIVERED TO WINCO FOR US TO PURCHASE THAT HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY APPLIED WITH THIS PRODUCT.

A LOT OF IS ANIMAL FEED AND THAT KIND OF THING. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. ALFALFA FIELDS. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WE'RE READY FOR A MOTION, I THINK.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER FOR A NET INCREASE OF $243,750, AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND. CITY CLERK, I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO.

FREEMAN. YES. BRADFORD. AYE. BURTENSHAW. YES.

DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS I. LARSEN. YES. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MR. CANFIELD, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE FROM THE FEDERAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY AUTHORITY.

[5.B.2) Federal Transit Administration (FTA) 5307 Formula Grant Program Funding Agreement - Time Extension]

SO THESE AGREEMENTS, THE FIRST ONE IS A MODIFICATION OF THE EXISTING AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD PRESENTED IN AUGUST OF 2024.

AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS IT CREATES AN OPERATIONAL AGREEMENT FOR GIFT TO OPERATE UNDER AND USE THE FTA GRANT FORMULA FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE DIDN'T USE THE FULL EXPENDITURE THAT WAS AVAILABLE UNDER THE ORIGINAL GRANT PRIOR TO THE TERMINATION OF THE GRANT DATE.

SO THIS AGREEMENT AMENDS THE DATE TO EXTEND THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR, AND ALLOWS US TO USE THOSE PROGRAMED FORMULA FUNDS FOR OPERATIONAL USE OF GIFT. SO THE REMAINING AMOUNT IS IN THE SCOPE OF THE AGREEMENT ON PAGE THREE.

THERE'S $249,000 AVAILABLE FOR OPERATIONS LOCAL AT 5050 AND $13,392 LOCAL MATCH AT 80/20. IT BASICALLY ALLOWS US TO OPERATE FURTHER WITH THE FUNDS AVAILABLE.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? I WILL NOTE TOO, JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S BENEFIT, THAT OUR ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE PUBLIC TRANSIT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE GIFT GREATER IDAHO.

GREATER IDAHO FALLS TRANSIT. MR. IS IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US TONIGHT.

SO IF YOU HAVE SUPER TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT MR. CANFIELD CAN'T ANSWER, YOU CAN TURN THERE, BUT ALL RIGHT, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, THEN I SUPPOSE WE'LL TURN TO MR. CARSON, COUNCILOR LARSON, FOR OUR MOTION. I MOVE THE COUNCIL, APPROVE THE FTA 5307 FORMULA GRANT PROGRAM FUNDING AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE NECESSARY DOCUMENT.

SECOND, CAN WE CAN WE REPHRASE THAT MOTION TO CLARIFY?

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THAT THAT WORD. OH YOU DID. OKAY. NO. WHERE IT SAYS AMENDMENT ONE YOU HAVE TO ADD AMENDMENT ONE IN THAT SPACE.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE GOT IN MY HANDS IN THE ONE I THINK THE PHRASE AMENDMENT ONE NEEDS TO BE IN THE MOTION.

IN THE MOTION? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. AFTER THE WORD AGREEMENT.

OKAY. YOU'LL SEE WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A MARKING.

ALL RIGHT, I GOT YOU. I'M NEW AT THIS. I MOVE THE COUNCIL, APPROVE THE FTA 50 307 FORMULA GRANT PROGRAM FUNDING AGREEMENT, AMENDMENT ONE, AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE NECESSARY DOCUMENT.

SECOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY I WASN'T BABYSITTING SITTING THAT SUPER WELL? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL TURN TO OUR CITY CLERK AND ASK FOR A VOTE.

LARSON. YES. FRANCIS. AYE. BURTENSHAW. YES. DINGMAN.

YES. FREEMAN. YES. RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND THEN THE NEXT ITEM.

[5.B.3) Federal Transit Administration (FTA) Formula Grant Program Funding Agreement]

AUGUST 2024. THIS AGREEMENT TAKES US THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2027.

IT OPERATES UNDER THE SAME CRITERIA OF FTA FUNDS AVAILABLE.

THIS THIS AGREEMENT IS A BIT LARGER THAN THE LAST ONE.

IT'S AT 1.4 MILLION AVAILABLE TOTAL FUNDS, WITH THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF 825,674 ON THE IN IN IN ADDITION TO THE AGREEMENT THAT WE JUST APPROVED TO FIND OUT THE OTHER ONE.

SO IT'S AN OPERATIONAL AGREEMENT ALLOWS US TO USE FDA FUNDS.

A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AS TO WHY WE COULDN'T COMBINE THESE.

AND IT'S BASICALLY THE NATURE OF AGREEMENTS AND WITH THE PROGRAM AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH YOUR FEDERAL FUNDS AND UPCOMING FEDERAL FUNDS IN THESE PROGRAMS. SO I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT WE'RE USING AND WE'RE EXECUTING AGREEMENTS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THERE IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. I THINK WE CAN IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THESE ARE BEING EXECUTED IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN THINGS GET BACK TO NORMAL WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THESE HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATED PRIOR TO THE SHUTDOWN.

THEY'LL BE THEY'LL BE GOOD TO GO. BUT I WANT TO FIRST TURN TO COUNCILOR BILL DINGMAN AND THEN COUNCILOR FRANCIS FOR COMMENTS.

COUNCILOR FRANCIS, I WANT TO HEAR FROM KATE. MARCUS. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHRIS CANFIELD? NO, ACTUALLY, I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

MR. MARCUS, WILL YOU COME FORWARD, PLEASE? WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

MR. MARCUS. JUST FOR THE THE NATURE OF THIS MEETING.

AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FTA FUND NUMBERS THAT WERE THROWN AROUND HERE.

CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO ME YOU KNOW, TRANSITIONING FROM CARES DOLLARS TO OUR 5307 URBAN FUNDS AND HOW THE PROCESS OF BUDGETING THOSE TAKES PLACE? WHEN IT COMES IN REFERENCE TO THESE AGREEMENTS.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO SPEAK INTO THE. SORRY, JUST ASK MY WIFE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER ANYBODY SAID I'M TOO QUIET.

SO YES. SO WE ACTUALLY STILL HAVE A VERY SMALL PORTION OF CARES LEFT.

THE BOARD HAS DIRECTED US TO USE THOSE FUNDS IN A NARROW WAY.

BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP WITH THESE AGREEMENTS CAN'T FULFILL FOR SOME REASON, AND THOSE CARES DOLLARS WERE ESSENTIAL FOR OUR OPERATION IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LOCAL MATCH.

SO ESSENTIALLY NO TAXPAYER DOLLARS FROM CEDAR FALLS HAD TO BE SPENT TO USE THOSE MONIES TO ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC TRANSIT SERVICE, TO STAND UP ALL THE OPERATIONS AND DECLARE THE BEGINS ANY CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

BASICALLY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS OR SO. SO THIS LAST OPERATIONAL YEAR IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE'VE LEVERAGED SOME TAX DOLLARS TO, TO PAY FOR THE TRANSIT SERVICE AND IN LOCAL TAX DOLLARS, I SHOULD SAY LOCAL TAX DOLLARS.

SO AS WE AS WE TRANSITION TO NOT HAVING THOSE CARES DOLLARS, WHICH WERE RARE, MAYBE ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY.

RIGHT. WE HAVE A LOT OF DOLLARS FOR OUR TRANSIT IN OUR SMALL URBAN AREA DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND THESE PROGRAMS WERE GIVEN CONTRACTS FOR THOSE DOLLARS THAT ARE SET ASIDE SPECIFIC FOR OUR REGION AND OUR, OUR SMALL URBAN AREA. SO AS WE TRANSFER WE WILL NOW HAVE A LOCAL MATCH THAT WE WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH.

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AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT THE WAY WE PURCHASE OUR SERVICES CONTRACTED THROUGH US.

IT SAVES US BASICALLY 15% RIGHT OFF THE TOP BECAUSE WE COULD GET A BETTER MATCH.

RIGHT. SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE DO TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS ARE JUST GETTING THE BEST DEAL THAT THEY POSSIBLY CAN GET. SO MY MOTTO IS THAT IF WE WATCH THE PENNIES, THE DOLLARS WILL TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES.

BUT IF IF SOMEONE HASN'T BEEN ON THIS JOURNEY WITH US FOR SEVERAL YEARS, YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THE CITY LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR A GIFT AND SAY THAT TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING $2 MILLION, FOR EXAMPLE, IN SERVICE, BUT THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.

STATE OF IDAHO REQUIRES US TO PROGRAM THE DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET, IT'S NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMBINATION OF TAXPAYER INVESTMENT AS WELL AS FEDERAL GRANTS, AND ALSO WHAT WE PROJECT IN SPONSORSHIPS AND OTHER FUNDING, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE PROGRAMED INTO THE BUDGET.

IS THAT CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY. AGREED. AND EVEN EVEN WITH THE MOST CONSERVATIVE OF ESTIMATES, THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING EACH TRACK BY A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF DOLLARS ON THE ORDER OF MAYBE 2 OR $3, DEPENDING, OF COURSE, ON HOW MANY RIGHTS WE GIVE IT THAT YEAR ACCORDING TO OUR PROJECTIONS AND GIFT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ABOUT THREE TO A LITTLE MORE THAN $3 A RIDE THAT'S BEING SUBSIDIZED.

SO ALTHOUGH WE MIGHT BE HEARING NUMBERS LIKE $33 PER RIDE, THAT'S NOT EVEN REMOTELY ACCURATE, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF A MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE BUDGET.

I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU.

KATE. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. VERY GOOD. COUNCILOR FRANCIS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THE POINT OF HOW YOUR WORK HAS GOT THIS GOING.

AND THE MATCH IS INCREDIBLE WHEN IT'S 8,020%, SO WE GET $300,000 PLUS BY PUTTING IN $82,000 AND IT'S COMING THROUGH. IT'S RIGHT. IT'S NOT DIRECTLY FROM THE FEDERAL.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. UNDER THE SITUATION WE ARE SUBRECIPIENT.

SO ESSENTIALLY THESE AGREEMENTS ADD AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PROTECTION BECAUSE AS WE SIGN THESE AGREEMENTS, I-T-D WILL BE TAKING ON THE BURDEN OF GETTING THAT MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT US. AND WE WILL GET THAT MONEY FROM IT.

ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS OR THINGS THAT YOU FEEL NEED TO BE CLARIFIED.

ALL RIGHT. WELL WE DO I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, BUT ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS WHO'VE EXPRESSED TO ME THEIR APPRECIATION FOR THIS SERVICE, I THANK YOU FOR THE WORK AND THE MANAGEMENT SKILL THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS SO FAR.

IT'S A SUCCESS STORY. WE GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ASKING HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES CAN REPLICATE WHAT WE'VE DONE.

SO IT IS AN ABSOLUTE SUCCESS STORY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THIS MATTER.

I JUST WANT TO SAY WE DID HAVE A RECORD BREAKING MONTH THE LAST THREE MONTHS IN A ROW.

HIGHEST, HIGHEST RIDERSHIP BY FAR. AND THAT IS DEFINITELY DUE TO THE COUNCIL TAKING CARE OF GIFT AND ALLOWING US TO RECEIVE THAT ADDITIONAL ADA FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE OLDER ONE THAT WE WERE THAT WE HAD BEGGED, BORROWED, STOLEN FROM ITV FROM THE PREVIOUS SERVICE AND THAT ENDED UP BEING VERY UTILIZED VERY, VERY WELL IN, IN SERVING THE CITIZENS VERY WELL.

AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY COMPLIMENTARY ABOUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY LOQUACIOUS ABOUT THEIR COMPLIMENTS.

RIGHT. THEY'VE BEEN VERY BOISTEROUS ABOUT, HEY, WE LOVE THIS SIZE OF VEHICLE AND IT HELPS US OUT GREATLY.

AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE IT FOR A NUMBER OF SHUTTLES THROUGHOUT TOWN THAT HAVE REALLY INCREASED OUR EFFICIENCY, AND THAT HAS DIRECTLY MOVED THAT NEEDLE FORWARD BECAUSE WE'RE SURE YOU KNOW THE QUESTION.

DO YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF WRITERS IN SEPTEMBER? SEPTEMBER? YES, I DO. HOLD ON, GIVE ME A SECOND.

ABOUT ABOUT 8800 WRITERS IN SEPTEMBER. SO JULY WAS A REALLY LETTER SETTING MONTH.

WE WERE WE WERE SLIGHTLY OVER 10,000 WRITERS IN JULY.

WE DO SEE A SLIGHT LOWER AMOUNT OF WRITERS AS WE GET INTO THE SCHOOL YEAR BECAUSE INSTEAD OF HAVING MINORS WRITING ARTICLES,

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SO THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD THING. VERY GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? A LITTLE BALANCE IN THERE, YOU KNOW? GREAT, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL. VERY GOOD. I APPRECIATE THE REPORT AND BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT WITH FTA? I'D LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. I'M REALLY GLAD THAT WE GOT THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH IT GETS USED.

BUT I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A YOUNG WOMAN HERE A COUPLE OF TIMES THAT'S BLIND THAT TALKS ABOUT THE VALUE, AND THAT PUTS A FACE ON THOSE 8800 RIDERS A MONTH THAT SAYS, I HER LIFE IS SO MUCH MORE OF A LIFE BECAUSE SHE CAN GO TO THE DOCTOR, SHE CAN GO SHOPPING, SHE CAN GO WHERE SHE WANTS TO GO.

AND WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE GIFT, SHE'D BE STUCK IN HER HOUSE JUST SO MUCH OF THE TIME.

SO AGAIN, A BALANCE BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF RIDERS, BUT ALSO PUTTING A FACE ON WHO SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE.

AND I'M OFTEN REMINDED OF ONE OF THE VERY FIRST STORIES I HEARD FROM GIFT OF THE FIRST PERSON WHO HAD THE STORY DRIVER THAT SAID, HEY, I, YOU KNOW, I GAVE THIS RIDE IN THIS THIS LADY WAS CRYING THE WHOLE TIME.

AND I SAID, WELL, SURELY YOU ASKED HER IF YOU COULD HELP SOMETHING, RIGHT? HE SAYS, YES, OF COURSE. HE SAYS, MAN, I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE YOU WERE CRYING.

IS THERE SOMETHING I COULD DO? I'M REALLY REMISS IF I JUST DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, STEP IN AND SAY, IS THERE SOMETHING I CAN DO TO HELP? AND SHE SAYS, OH, NO.

MY HUSBAND DIED THREE YEARS AGO, AND I'VE NEVER HAD A DRIVER'S LICENSE, AND I CAN WALK TO THE ALBERTSONS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD FOR GROCERIES.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE A GIFT, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN THREE YEARS SINCE HER HUSBAND HAD PASSED THAT I'VE DONE SOME PLEASURE SHOPPING.

SO SHE HAD GOTTEN A RIDE TO THE MALL. AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT HIT ME SO HARD, BUT IT REALLY DID.

YEAH, NOT MANY PEOPLE CAN CLAIM THAT THEY SAW ME CRY, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY DID THAT DAY.

I'M NOT CONFIRMING THAT, BUT POSSIBLY. THANK YOU.

AND YOU CAN RIDE IT BY DOWNLOADING THE GIFT APP.

YES. AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION. WE'RE OPEN UNTIL 9 P.M.

MOST DAYS, BUT ON THURSDAYS, FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, WE'RE EXTRA FUN, AND WE'RE OPEN TILL 11 P.M..

AND HOW MANY VEHICLES DO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW? WE HAVE NINE VEHICLES AND WE'RE WE'RE WE WE AVERAGE A PICKUP OR A DROP OFF ABOUT EVERY TWO MINUTES AND 48 SECONDS DURING THE OPERATION. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PLUG IT ANY HARDER.

PEOPLE. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. SO WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M READY FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL, APPROVE THE FTA 5307 FORMULA GRANT PROGRAM FUNDING AGREEMENT.

I'LL SECOND WITH. HANG ON, I GOT I GOT DISTRACTED HERE.

FUNDING AGREEMENT. AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE NECESSARY DOCUMENT.

SECOND. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CITY CLERK. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.

DINGMAN. YES. BRADFORD. LARSON. YES. BURTENSHAW.

YES. FRANCIS I. FREEMAN. YES. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MARCUS. THANK YOU, MR. CANFIELD, FOR BEING HERE. THE NEXT ITEM COMES TO US FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

[5.C.1) Legal Services Agreement]

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE.

IS THAT RIGHT? BUT WE'RE TRYING WE'RE WE'RE UPPING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY. YEAH.

NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT. I'M CURRENTLY WE'RE WE CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN 75,000 WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.

THE THIS IS THE LEGAL FEES FOR THE EASTERN IDAHO HOME BUILDERS LAWSUIT THAT WE'RE INVOLVED IN.

HE'S BEEN DOING EXCELLENT WORK. AND SO WE'RE JUST ASKING CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 150,000.

ALL RIGHT, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.

OKAY. I WOULD MOVE COUNCIL APPROVE A NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT OF 150,000 FOR LEGAL SERVICES PURSUANT TO AN ENGAGEMENT LETTER WITH GIVENS PURSLEY LLP.

OKAY. AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FRANCIS.

IS THAT RIGHT? I DIDN'T HEAR IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, WE WILL TURN TO OUR CITY CLERK FOR A VOTE.

DINGMAN. YES. FREEMAN. YES. FRANCIS. AYE. BRADFORD.

AYE. BURTENSHAW. YES. LARSEN. YES. MOTION CARRIES.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

[5.D.1) Final Plat, Development Agreement, and Reasoned Statement of Relevant Criteria and Standards, Park Place Division No. 8]

I BELIEVE WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS. IS IT 5 OR 6? FIVE ITEMS. AND MR. SANTER IS HERE. HOWEVER, HE'S NOT GOING TO JUMP TO THE PODIUM JUST YET BECAUSE THE FIRST COUPLE OF ITEMS ARE ONES THAT THE COUNCIL TYPICALLY MANAGES.

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AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN TO OUR LIAISON FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, COUNCILOR BRADFORD.

COUNCILOR LARSEN AND ASK YOU TO INTRODUCE THESE ITEMS. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU'RE TAKING OR JUST TAKING? THIS ITEM IS A IS AN EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S JUST THE NEXT PHASE IF I'VE GOT THAT RIGHT.

AM I CHARACTERIZING THAT ACCURATELY? NOTHING PARTICULARLY UNIQUE OR WHATEVER ABOUT IT'S JUST A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.

IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE YEAH. SO ANYWAY, IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THERE'S A MAP IN THERE THAT SHOWS WHERE IT'S LOCATED.

THERE'S A PLAT MAP THAT SHOWS THE FINAL PLAT THAT SHOWS THE THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE, AND IT ALL FITS WITHIN BOTH ZONING AND THE. OVERLAY. I PERSONALLY AM NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THESE STREETS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THE MAP.

TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS. IS DOES ANYBODY, BY LOOKING AT IT, KNOW WHAT PART OF TOWN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I LOOKED IT UP, BUT NOW I THAT OTHER ONE WOULD WOULD HAVE HELPED THE BIGGER ONE THAT I DIDN'T HAVE.

THERE WE GO. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S. OH YEAH. MY COMPUTER IS ANGRY.

THIS IS LOCATED AT 65TH SOUTH AND SOUTH FIFTH WEST.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE PART PLACE SUBDIVISION JUST NORTH OF OUR SECTION.

THERE YOU GO. IT'S ACTUALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY, WELL, NOW I KNOW WHERE IT IS, ACTUALLY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER REQUESTS OR.

QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TURN TO MISTER LARSON FOR EMOTION.

ALL RIGHT. I GUESS EVERYBODY AGREES WITH YOU THAT IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD.

ALL RIGHT, I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE FINAL PLAT FOR PARK PLACE DIVISION NUMBER EIGHT, WE HAVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO SIGN THAT AGREEMENT.

SECOND, VERY GOOD CITY CLERK. I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE.

YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS A. FREEMAN. YES. LARSON.

YES. BRADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ANOTHER A FINAL PLAT. AND ARE YOU GOING TO CARRY THAT ONE AS WELL? SO THIS IS THE SAME PIECE. OH I'M SORRY I WENT TOO FAST, DIDN'T I? I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. WE'LL GO BACK TO AND DO THE SECOND MOTION.

VERY GOOD. I MOVE THAT COUNCIL ACCEPT OR APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR PARK PLACE DIVISION NUMBER EIGHT AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION TO THE MAYOR, CITY ENGINEER AND CITY CLERK TO SIGN SAID FINAL PLAT.

SECOND. OKAY. AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD REQUIRED ACTION AS WELL.

DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THE VOTE FOR THIS ONE FIRST? MAYOR. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE ALL THE HELP TONIGHT, EVERYBODY. FREEMAN.

YES. BRADFORD. ALL RIGHT. LARSON. YES. DINGMAN.

YES. BURTENSHAW. YES. FRANCIS. AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

WONDERFUL. NOW, I THINK WE HAVE A THIRD MOTION.

I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE RECENT STATEMENT OF RELEVANT CRITERIA AND STANDARDS FOR THE FINAL PLAT FOR PARK PLACE DIVISION NUMBER EIGHT, AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

SECOND. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE ARE READY FOR A VOTE ON THIS FINAL MOTION.

BURTENSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS. AYE. FREEMAN.

YES. LARSON. YES. RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE ANOTHER FINAL PLAT CONSIDERED TO BE CONSIDERED, AND THIS ONE ONLY HAS TWO MOTIONS.

[5.D.2) Final Plat and Reasoned Statement of Relevant Criteria and Standards, R&V Addition Division No. 2, First Amended]

THIS SPECIFICALLY IS THE HOPE LUTHERAN CHURCH ON THE CORNER OF 12TH AND HOOPS.

AND THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO ADD. ADD ON. OKAY.

I MEAN, IT'S ALL PROPERTY. THEY ALREADY OWN PROPERTY THEY ALREADY OWN.

THE LOT IS BEING THERE'S A NUMBER OF LOTS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.

THEY'RE CONSOLIDATING IT INTO ONE AND FIX SOME EASEMENTS ON IT.

IT'S FOR THE FUTURE. EXPANSION OF THE LUTHERAN CHURCH IS ADDING SOME SCHOOL ADDITION TO THEIR CHURCH.

SO BASICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IF YOU LOOK AT THE YELLOW, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S LOTS ALONG THE EAST AND NORTH SIDE THERE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT THOSE LOT LINES AND SOME EASEMENT CLEAN UP AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'LL STILL HAVE THREE LOTS WHEN THEY'RE DONE.

BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'VE GOT SEVEN RIGHT. CORRECT.

YEAH OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PLAT.

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I MOVE THE COUNCIL, ACCEPT OR APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT FOR R AND V ADDITION DIVISION TWO.

NUMBER TWO. FIRST AMENDED AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR, CITY ENGINEER, AND CITY CLERK TO SIGN SAID FINAL PLAT.

SECOND. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COUNCILOR RADFORD, CITY CLERK.

WE ARE READY FOR A VOTE. RADFORD. DINGMAN. YES.

FRANCIS A. FREEMAN. YES. LARSON. YES. BURTENSHAW.

YES. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA FROM CT. OH, NO. NO, NO.

SECOND ITEM. IT'S THE RECENT STATEMENT. THANK YOU.

I MOVE THE COUNCIL, APPROVE THE RECENT STATEMENT OF RELEVANT CRITERIA AND STANDARDS FOR THE FINAL PLAT FOR R&B ADDITION.

DIVISION NUMBER TWO, FIRST AMENDED AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

SECOND CITY CLERK, CAN YOU CAN YOU CONSENT TO VOTE FOR US? YES. BURTENSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FREEMAN. YES.

FRANCIS I. LARSON. YES. RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE IF I CAN MAKE IT THROUGH THE REST OF THIS MEETING WITHOUT ANY MORE MISTAKES.

THAT'S MY CHALLENGE. ALRIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS A HEARING.

[5.D.3) Quasi-Judicial Public Hearing - Planned Unit Development (PUD) and Reasoned Statement of Relevant Criteria and Standards, Anderson Townhomes Division No. 2]

THIS REQUIRES THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT HAVE ENGAGED WITH ANYONE OR DONE ANY ADDITIONAL RESEARCH OR HAVE ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ITEM OTHER THAN WHAT WAS IN THEIR PACKET.

THAT WAS PREPARATORY FOR THIS MEETING. AND SO COUNCIL MEMBERS IF ANYBODY AND THEN THE OTHER REQUIREMENT IS THAT, OF COURSE, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN A HEARING LIKE THIS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THEY'RE MAKING THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS THAT HAVE THE FORCE OF LAW, THAT THEY NOT HAVE ANY CONFLICTS. AND SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO ANY DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONFLICTS OR ANY CONVERSATIONS THEY NEED TO DISCLOSE, OR DO YOU WANT TO ANYBODY WANT TO RECUSE THEMSELVES FROM THIS PARTICULAR HEARING? OKAY. THAT MEANS WE'RE GOOD TO GO. AND SO AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE HEARING FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS THE PUD, AND THE RECENT STATEMENT OF RELEVANT CRITERIA AND STANDARDS THAT'S REQUIRED FOR ANDERSON TOWNHOMES DIVISION NUMBER TWO.

WE WILL ORDER ALL OF THE ITEMS IN THE OR, EXCUSE ME, IN THE AGENDA.

AND I'LL TESTIMONY TO BE GIVEN TONIGHT TO BE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THIS HEARING.

AND THIS IS HOW WE WILL PROCEED. WE WILL FIRST START WITH A PRESENTATION FROM THE OWNER OR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE.

I DIDN'T DIDN'T GET AHEAD OF TIME WHO THAT WOULD BE.

BUT AFTER WE HAVE THAT PRESENTATION IT WILL BE FOLLOWED BY A PRESENTATION FROM CITY STAFF, WHICH WILL BE DELIVERED BY DIRECTOR SANNER. WHO IS WADE SANDER, THE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AFTER THAT, WE WILL TAKE TESTIMONY FROM ANYONE.

WE HAVE A SMALL ENOUGH GROUP THAT WE WILL JUST TAKE THE TESTIMONY IN ANY ORDER FROM ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSITION THAT'S BEFORE THE COUNCIL, WHICH IS WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO APPROVE THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL ALSO JUST SAY THAT I'M PRETTY FLEXIBLE ABOUT QUESTIONS, NOT RIGID.

SO WHEN THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS, WE WILL LET THEM ASK THEM AT EACH STAGE AFTER EACH PERSON OFFERS TESTIMONY.

IF WE DO HAVE WELL, USUALLY THE RULE IS IF THERE'S NEGATIVE TESTIMONY AGAINST, THEN WE ALLOW THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE TO HAVE REBUTTAL TIME, AND I'LL OFFER REBUTTAL TIME NO MATTER WHAT IF I REMEMBER.

SO DON'T LET ME FORGET. AND SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED.

AND SO TONIGHT IS OUR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE.

SOMEONE FROM CONNECT ENGINEERING OR IS IT, IS IT SPEARS, INC? CONNECT ENGINEERING. CONNECT ENGINEERING. VERY GOOD.

PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND TELL US YOUR NAME AND WHAT YOU WANT US TO KNOW.

OKAY. TRAVIS PAYNE KNEW MY ADDRESS AS WELL. I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY PUT THAT IN THE RECORD.

OKAY, PERFECT. BUT WELCOME, MR. PAYNE. JUST GENERALLY WHAT CITY YOU RESIDE IN.

OKAY. IDAHO FALLS. OKAY, SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PROPOSE A PROJECT THAT'S 35 UNITS.

THAT'S JUST TO THE WEST OF ANDERSON AND SOUTH OF SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED R-3. THE VARIANCES THAT WE'RE REQUESTING WITH THIS PUD ARE A TO ALLOW FOR INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED LOTS TO FRONT A PRIVATE STREET TO REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK TO TEN FEET AND A REDUCTION IN THE TEN FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG PRIVATE STREETS TO 4.5FT AS PART OF THOSE VARIANCES. THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ARE A GAZEBO, A PICKLEBALL COURT A HE

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SO IT'LL BASICALLY BE A FOREST AROUND ALL OF THESE UNITS.

SO THAT'LL BE REALLY EXCITING. THE PICTURES THAT YOU SEE UP HERE ARE THE PICTURES OF DIVISION ONE OF THE ANDERSON DUDE.

THIS FIRST ONE IS THE AMENITY THAT WAS INCLUDED IN ONE OF THE AMENITIES, WHICH IS A PLAYGROUND WHICH THE OWNERS OF THIS IN THIS PROPERTY WOULD ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO THE AMENITIES IN DIVISION ONE.

AND THEN THESE AMENITIES WOULD ALSO PROVIDE MORE AMENITIES TO THE OWNERS OF DIVISION ONE.

SO AND THEN IF YOU KEEP GOING AND SO YOU HAVE A QUICK LOOK AT THAT.

YEP. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S GREAT. THERE'S THE INSIDE OF THE OF ONE OF THE UNITS.

YOU CAN SEE THE MODERN STYLE KITCHEN AND AND AND MODERN AMENITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

THIS IS THE BACKYARD SHOWING THE GREEN SPACE.

YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT'S PROVIDED, BASICALLY.

AND THIS WOULD BE A SIMILAR PRODUCT TO THE ONE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING WITH THIS IN DIVISION TWO. AND YOU CAN SEE THE FRONT LOT WITH A A MODERN STYLE THAT BASICALLY PROVIDES A EXCELLENT CURB APPEAL AND OPEN PARKING FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS.

THE R-3 ZONE ALLOWS FOR 35 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

THIS PARTICULAR LOT HAS 15 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

AND THERE ARE TWO STALLS REQUIRED PER DWELLING UNIT.

WE HAVE 71 STALLS WITH 35 UNITS. SO BESIDES THAT, I WILL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBERS ANY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, NO. I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN YOUR NAME FOR MR. TRAVIS PAYTON. THERE WE GO. YES, COUNCILOR FRANCIS.

SO IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, YOU SAID EXTRA TREES, PLURAL.

BUT IN THE IN THE PACKET WE HAVE HERE, IT SAID ONE TREE AND TWO SHRUBS.

SO, SO IT'S ONE TREE AND TWO AND TWO SHRUBS PER.

I THINK IT'S 1000FT² OF LANDSCAPE AREA. THAT'S.

YEAH. SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE. IT'S A SERIES OF.

IT'S A SERIES OF THOSE. YEAH. THANK YOU. WHATEVER.

WHATEVER. SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE LOST DUE TO THE REDUCED SETBACK, WE COMPENSATED WITH ADDITIONAL TREES, ADDITIONAL SHRUBS PER LANDSCAPE CODE. OKAY. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR LARSON? THE THE MODIFICATION, THE SETBACK.

CAN YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON, PLEASE? THE SHORTENING OF THE SETBACK IS THAT THE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION, KIND OF THE SOUTHWEST BORDER OF THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT CHARACTERIZING THAT ACCURATELY? SO THE SETBACK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REAR YARD SETBACK.

THE WHAT? I'M SORRY. YOU SAY THE REAR YARD SETBACK RIGHT THERE.

WASN'T THERE A WANTING TO MODIFY THE SETBACK AMOUNT AND SHORTEN IT A LITTLE BIT, MAKE IT SO THE ONE OF THE VARIANCES WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A REDUCED REAR YARD SETBACK. AND YES, THAT WOULD BE FOR THE SOUTH WEST PROPERTY LINE.

AND THAT BACKS UP TO SOME EXISTING PROPERTY THAT THAT YOU OWN.

THAT'S PART OF THE SAME DEVELOPMENT. SO SO THIS PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT OWN THAT PROPERTY, BUT IT IS A DEVELOPED PROPERTY THAT HAS A MULTIFAMILY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT AND IT BACKS UP TO A PARKING AREA, DOESN'T IT? ISN'T THAT WHAT IT KIND OF COMES UP AGAINST? MY POINT BEING IS IF WE HAVE TWO HOUSES THAT ARE THIS FAR APART.

WE'VE GOT A PARKING LOT. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE RIGHT THERE.

THOSE UNITS THAT ARE IN THE PROPERTY LINE. SO BASICALLY YOU CAN POINT WITH YOUR CLICKER.

MR. SANTER WILL SHOW YOU HOW. GOT IT RIGHT THERE.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE THAT THEY WILL BE BACKING UP TO.

AND THE BUILDINGS WOULD NOT BE UP AGAINST OTHER BUILDINGS.

SO IT WOULD BE UP AGAINST PARKING AREA AND THAT SORT OF THING.

LANDSCAPE. THANKS. YEP. OKAY. OTHER CLARIFICATIONS COUNSELOR.

SO IF THERE WAS SOME CLARITY THAT AS PART OF IT WAS TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED TEN FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, BUT WHAT WOULD THE NORMAL REDUCE THE REAR YARD SETBACK TO TEN FEET.

WHAT WOULD THE NORMAL REAR YARD SETBACK BE? I DON'T KNOW, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

OKAY, I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING I WOULD BE ASKING DIRECTOR SANDER AND THEN ALSO THE INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED LOTS TO THE TO FRONT THE PRIVATE STREETS.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ALSO A DIRECTOR CENTERED QUESTION ABOUT THAT NOT BEING WHY.

THAT IS A WHY THAT IS A CONCERN IN JUST THE REGULAR SUBDIVISION CODE.

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SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THAT. BUT THE VARIANCE IS THAT THESE ARE INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED LOTS.

I THINK THAT IS WHERE FOR ME THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF.

WELL, MAYBE I'LL JUST LET THE WHOLE PROCESS RUN THROUGH AND THEN I CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS LATER.

SO YES, I THESE WILL BE QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR CENTER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FREEMAN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? MINE WILL BE FOR DIRECTOR CENTER. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO STAY NEARBY.

AND SO BECAUSE WE NEVER KNOW WHEN YOUR EXPERTISE MIGHT BE NEEDED AGAIN, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WITH THAT MR. SANDERS JOTTING DOWN A FEW NOTES. BUT WE'LL INVITE YOU TO COME FORWARD WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

MR. SANDER. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'LL GO THROUGH THIS RELATIVELY QUICKLY JUST BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAD DESCRIBED A LOT OF WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY. IT'S 2.3 ACRES AT THE CORNER OF ANDERSON STREET AND SCIENCE CENTER.

SO IT'S THIS RED PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. AS WAS STATED BY THE APPLICANT, THEY OWN THESE UNITS ON BOSTON COURT JUST TO THE SOUTH.

AND NOW THEY ARE GOING INTO SECOND PHASE TO DEVELOP THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THIS RED AREA.

THEY AREN'T THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTHWEST AS WAS DESCRIBED.

WE HAVE IS THAT BUSH ELEMENTARY? AND THEN THIS IS BLACK FEATHER APARTMENTS.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R3A, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY.

THIS AREA, THROUGH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IS TO SPREAD THIS URBAN CORE AND URBAN CORE ALLOWS FOR HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, WHICH IS BEING PROPOSED HERE. THE PUD CONCEPT IS IS SHOWN HERE.

I'LL JUST GO THROUGH VERY QUICKLY. THE APPLICANT WENT THROUGH MOST OF THIS R3 A ALLOWS THE, THE THEY ARE REQUESTING 35 UNITS ON 2.3 ACRES AND THAT THEY ALREADY HAD STATED THE VARIANCES FOR A FRONTAGE ON A PRIVATE STREET AND A TEN FOOT REDUCED REAR SETBACK AND REDUCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE PRIVATE STREET AND COMPENSATION FOR THAT REDUCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER THEY ARE REQUESTING THEY ARE PROVIDING MORE AMENITIES THAN THAT ARE REQUIRED, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING MORE LANDSCAPING THAN IT IS REQUIRED AS WELL.

THE PARKING IS 70. THEY'RE PROVIDING 71. THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S REQUIRED IS 25%.

THEY ARE PROVIDING 26.8%. SO SLIGHTLY MORE. AS WAS ALREADY STATED, THE ADDITIONAL TREES AND SHRUBS THE ARE THREE CAPS AT 35 UNITS AN ACRE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 15 UNITS PER ACRE, SO HE'S NOT GOING AS DENSE AS WHAT THE R-3 ALLOWS. THE THREE AMENITIES, AS HE STATED, ARE A PICKLEBALL COURT, DOG PARK, GAZEBO, AND WITH A SINCE HE'S REQUESTING UNDER 5050. ONLY 50 UNITS IN THE PUD ORDINANCE REQUIRES ONLY ONE AMENITY.

SO HE IS ACTUALLY PROVIDING THREE FOR SO TWO MORE THAN WHAT HE'S ACTUALLY REQUIRING.

THAT WAS JUST IN COMPENSATION BECAUSE HE IS REQUESTING VARIANCES ON THIS.

YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THE RENDERINGS. THE PROPERTY IS IS IS CURRENTLY VACANT.

THIS DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON LET'S SEE.

THIS WENT ON JUNE 3RD OF 2025. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS ONE ELEMENT.

THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT DID PASS UNANIMOUSLY. NO ONE CAME AND SPOKE TO IT.

THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT PLANNING COMMISSION BROUGHT UP ABOUT THIS EXTENSION INTO SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE.

SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE DID CHANGE FROM A MAJOR ARTERIAL TO A STRATEGIC STRATEGIC ARTERIAL, JUST WITH THE MOST RECENT THE MOST RECENT ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN. IT IT CHANGED WHILE THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROCESS OF MOVING THE PUD MOVE FORWARD.

THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION BROUGHT UP SOME CONCERN ABOUT SPACING IN THE INTERSECTION.

THE OLD ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN REQUIRED 600FT OF SEPARATION.

THIS IS ACTUALLY AT 900FT FOR THE SECOND ACCESS.

SO JUST BE AWARE OF THAT. THAT WAS IN THE BROUGHT THAT UP IN THE MINUTES.

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ALSO THERE WAS THERE WAS SOME COMMENT BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE SECOND ACCESS WHEN THAT WILL GO THROUGH.

AND THAT IS BACK HERE. WHEN WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN WE HAVE CURRENTLY THERE'S ONLY ONE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY FROM ANDERSON TO THE SOUTH THAT GETS CAPPED AT AT 14. SO WHEN 14 UNITS ARE CONSTRUCTED, THEY CAN'T CONSTRUCT OR GET C OF ZERO UNTIL THEY PROVIDE THE SECOND ACCESS ON THE SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE. SO THERE WAS I BELIEVE THERE WAS ONE CONCERN, OR MAYBE THIS WAS FROM AN ONLINE COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVED THAT THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE ACCESS INTO THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.

IT WILL HAVE A SECOND ACCESS AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT AS I STATED, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SENT A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER. FREEMAN. YES, COUNCILOR. THIS IS GERMANE TO THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT SECONDARY ACCESS THERE.

I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT A DECELERATION LANE ON SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE.

TURN INTO THAT DRIVEWAY. YEAH. I KNOW THEY WERE.

I, I TALKED, ACTUALLY, THE PROJECT MANAGER JUST THIS AFTERNOON ON THAT VERY TOPIC.

SO I BELIEVE THEY'RE PUTTING IN A BARRIER FOR JUST A RIGHT IN, RIGHT OUT OR A NO LEFT HAND TURN IN THAT AREA.

I WAS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE TURNING IN THERE AND HAVING TO SLOW DOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY THAT'S A GET PEOPLE COMING OFF OF THE FREEWAY RIGHT THERE AND THEY'RE GOING PRETTY FAST. AND DECELERATION MIGHT BE NICE TO GET YOU OUT OF THE TRAFFIC BEFORE YOU TURN IN THERE.

SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR? IF A COUNCIL MEMBER HAD A CONCERN LIKE THAT, WOULD IT JUST BE OFF THE CUFF? THEY CASUALLY MENTION IT TO PUBLIC WORKS? OR IS IT THAT THAT COULD BE ADDED AS A CONDITION OR SOMETHING, OR AT LEAST THE CONDITION TO RESEARCH IT? WELL, I KNOW THEY GO THROUGH TRAFFIC STUDIES WHEN THESE COME BEFORE YOU, AND IT WAS PROBABLY DEEMED AT THAT TIME THAT IT WAS NOT NECESSARY.

OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE SHOWN ON THE POD. THE FACT THAT THE FACT THAT THE ROADWAY HAS BEEN CHANGED, ITS DESIGNATION MIGHT TRIGGER THAT. I WOULD THINK, YES, YES.

IF I ASSUME YOU COULD ADD THAT AS A CONDITION THAT THERE WOULD BE A DECELERATION LANE INSTALLED THERE.

YOU COULD VERY WELL WITH THE PBB ADD THAT ACCELERATION.

THANK YOU. IT'S JUST A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISTER SANDER. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE STORM.

STORM WATER RETENTION POND. IS THERE ANY ANY OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT IS ACTUALLY WATER STORAGE IN THIS PUD? YOU KNOW, I THAT MAY BE A QUESTION FOR MR. PAYNE BEFORE WE'RE DONE. OKAY. YEAH, I WOULD TURN TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT ONE.

I BELIEVE IT WAS CAPTURED IN PHASE ONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

OKAY, I'VE GOT A SPOT FOR IT. OKAY, SO BEFORE WE BRING MR. PAYNE BACK UP, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COUNCILOR FRANCIS, YOU HAD A COMMENT OR QUESTION.

WAS IT FOR MR. WADE? MR. SANTER? YEAH, LET'S TAKE CARE OF THAT FIRST, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, THERE'S ONLY ONE ADA PARKING SPACE.

IS THERE A CODE ON HOW MANY ADA ARE REQUIRED IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS? NOT IN RESIDENTIAL. FOR COMMERCIAL, YOU ARE CORRECT.

THERE'S A SET STANDARD FOR ADA PARKING STALLS.

AND THIS ONE, THEY JUST SHOW THAT THERE'S THE TWO ON THE ONE SIDE AND THEN THERE'S THE ONE THERE'S VAN ACCESS ON.

I BELIEVE THERE'S THREE OF THEM IN THE SITE PLAN, BUT YES, THEY, THEY COMMERCIAL HAS MORE STRINGENT STANDARDS FOR ADA REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE YOU THINK OF, LIKE A DRIVEWAY, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE MAY BE HANDICAPPED IN A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.

THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR HANDICAPPED PARKING IN THOSE ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAM? YES. I'M BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTIONS NOW.

OKAY. NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM. SO SORRY. I'M ASKING THE WRONG PERSON THE WRONG QUESTION.

SO INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED. LOTS TO FRONT. PRIVATE STREET.

ARE THEY. IS EACH UNIT GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE INDIVIDUALLY PLATTED? SO, YES, THEY ARE ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS GRAY AREA IS RIGHT HERE.

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IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? CORRECT. YES. SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I UNDERSTOOD IT. SO SO THEY WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE LIKE AN HOA THAT WOULD MAINTAIN THE GREEN SPACE. BUT EVERY INDIVIDUAL UNIT DOESN'T HAVE HAS ZERO GREEN SPACE IS THAT THAT'S HOW I SAW THE THE PICTURE, THAT THERE IS NO GREEN SPACE FOR ANY INDIVIDUAL OWNER, BUT COLLECTIVELY THEY HAVE COMMON GREEN SPACE THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN THE THE THE THIRD ITEM WAS CLEARED TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED TEN FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S REQUIRED TEN FEET. BUT WHAT IS THE REAR YARD SETBACK NORMALLY.

YEAH. FOR AN RTHREE A THE SETBACK IS 25FT. SO WE'RE GOING FROM 25 TO 10 AND FROM 10 TO 4 AND A HALF. YEAH. ON THAT FRONT, ON THE FRONT LITTLE AREA.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND THE THINKING FOR IT MAYBE TO TO HELP WITH THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

BECAUSE AS WAS STATED THE ALL THOSE THE VARIANCES REQUESTED ON THIS SITE.

THE PROPERTY SLIGHTLY BENDS SO IT GETS LONGER ON THE ONES TO THE UNITS ON THE NORTH AND WEST.

NOT BY MUCH, MIND YOU, BUT THERE IS A SLIGHT BEND AS YOU COME UP.

AND ALSO THE THINKING OF WHY STAFF WAS OKAY WITH THAT REQUEST IS BECAUSE THE PROPERTIES BUTT UP.

THEY DON'T DIRECTLY BUTT UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL, IT'S AGAINST A PARKING LOT IN ESSENCE WITH SOME REAL LANDSCAPE, REAL AREAS. SO THAT'S WHY WE WERE FINE WITH BRINGING THAT FORWARD.

AND FOR THE TEN FOOT REQUEST, AND A PUD ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO MAKE THOSE TYPE OF REQUESTS AS WELL.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT AS THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL THEM.

BUT THAT'S UP TO THEM. TO WHAT? WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEING BUILT UP AGAINST SOMEONE ELSE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ACCEPT THAT KIND OF LIMITATION. OKAY. CORRECT. THANK YOU.

I SUSPECT THAT THIS IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN A CONDOMINIUM.

YOU OWN THE DWELLING, AND YET YOU DON'T OWN ANY OF THE LANDSCAPING WORRIES AND CONCERNS.

EVEN SO, CONDOMINIUM IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT IN ITS OWNERSHIP.

CONDOMINIUM IS THE AIR SPACE. OKAY. BUT BUT AS FAR AS THE NOT LEGAL BUT THE THE CONCEPT FOR A CONSUMER IS, YOU KNOW, THEY OWN I OWN WHAT I LIVE IN. I DON'T HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO THE PRODUCT ISN'T FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY SEEM LIKE YOU'RE NOT GETTING A YARD.

SO. BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE YARD, SO. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. TANNER. YEAH. OKAY. COUNCIL FRANCIS. SO I'M READING THIS RIGHT.

THERE WOULD BE A RETAINING WALL BETWEEN THIS DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE.

A RETAINING WALL. NO, NO, THERE'S THERE'S A THERE'S A BUFFER.

LET ME GO BACK HERE. THERE'S A 15 FOOT BUFFER THAT WOULD RUN ALONGSIDE CENTER DRIVE, RETAINING WALL AND SIDEWALK EASEMENT. SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE. APPLICANT.

PERHAPS WE CAN ADDRESS THAT WITH MR. PAYNE COMES FORWARD AND MAYBE NOW'S THE TIME, BECAUSE I THINK YOU WERE THE LAST QUESTION FOR MR. SANTER. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT RETENTION AS WELL, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PRCHAL THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO.

RIGHT, EXACTLY. SO, MR. PAYNE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU COME FORWARD IF YOU'RE WILLING.

YEAH. SO TO SPEAK TO YOUR QUESTION FIRST. COUNCIL MEMBER. IT'S A EXISTING EASEMENT THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

THAT INCLUDES AN EXISTING RETAINING WALL. BUT THE RETAINING WALL WILL NOT RUN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT WILL RUN THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY WITH STREET TREES THAT RUN EVERY SPACED EVERY 30FT OR SO.

SO ONE OF THE PHOTOS. THE UNITS WERE SHOWN, SHOWN WITH THE BACKYARDS.

THE BACK SIDE HAVING A PRIVACY DIVIDER BETWEEN UNITS, BUT IT WASN'T FENCED OFF TO CREATE PRIVATE A LITTLE PRIVATE BALCONY OR PORCH AREA FOR THE BACK. WILL THAT BE DIFFERENT ON THESE, OR WILL THEIR BACKYARDS BE OPEN TO SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE TRAFFIC? NO, THE INTENT WOULD BE THE IT WILL BE THE SAME AS SAME AS THE EXISTING ONES.

SO THEY'LL BE SHUT OFF IN THE BACK. IT WILL BE SHUT OFF.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST THINK ABOUT A TODDLER AND SO FOR SURE.

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THAT'S WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF. IT'S NOT SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY SHOWN ON THIS.

BUT BEFORE IT GOES TO THE STORMWATER RETENTION AREA, THERE'S UNDERGROUND STORAGE THAT IT WILL GO TO.

SO THE CHANCES THAT THIS WILL SEE WATER, IT WILL SEE WATER ONCE FOR MAYBE LIKE A 50 YEAR OR A 75 YEAR EVENT, BUT IT WOULDN'T SEE WATER DURING A STANDARD EVENT.

SO WHAT? SO BASICALLY THE PICKLEBALL COURT WOULD REMAIN DRY, YOU KNOW, 90 TO 99% OF THE TIME.

IT'S JUST THOSE MAJOR EVENTS WHERE YOU MIGHT SEE SOME WATER THERE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PAINE OR MR. SMITH? ALL RIGHT. WELL, COUNCIL, WE RESERVE THE RIGHT FOR THEM TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS.

BUT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. MR. PAINE WILL TURN TO PUBLIC.

NOW, IF THERE ARE ANY INDIVIDUALS HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TESTIMONY.

FOR OR AGAINST THE REQUEST. ALL RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU.

WE'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR NAME AND WHAT YOUR INTEREST IS IN THE PROPERTY. HI.

MY NAME IS ERIN O'CONNOR. I'M ACTUALLY THE SO-CALLED APPLICANT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE BUILT THE FIRST DIVISION. PRIMARILY WE'RE TRYING.

I'VE BEEN A REAL ESTATE BROKER FOR A LONG TIME, AND HOUSING IS JUST BECOMING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

AND I SEE COUNTLESS FAMILIES THAT CAN BARELY AFFORD A $350,000 HOUSE ANYMORE WITH INTEREST RATES THE WAY THEY ARE.

SO WE'VE DESIGNED A SUBDIVISION THAT IS SIMPLE HAS LOTS OF AMENITIES FOR FAMILIES, AND BETTER YET, WE SELL THESE FOR $280,000 A UNIT. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN AFFORD THESE.

WE CAN OFFER DISCOUNTS ON INTEREST RATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP THEM EVEN FURTHER.

SO IT WAS A TREMENDOUS SUCCESS FOR YOUNG FAMILIES.

WHEN WE BUILT THE FIRST DIVISION, WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR THIS ONE AS WELL. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ON SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE THAT YOU WERE SAYING, AND WE'VE ADDRESSED THAT, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S BEEN STOPPED. THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS NOT BECAUSE WE WANTED IT TO BE OPEN FOR PEOPLE.

BUT THESE TOWNHOME SUBDIVISIONS CAN BE A LITTLE TRICKY TRYING TO MAXIMIZE SPACE, BUT ALSO KEEP PEOPLE SEPARATE AND HAVE THEIR OWN LIVES IN A SENSE. AND SO IT CAN BE A LITTLE TRICKY TO DO THAT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE AT HOME AS WELL.

WOULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE? I DON'T YES, SORRY.

OKAY. QUESTIONS? WELL, NO, WE DON'T ASK, WE DON'T ASK, DON'T ASK.

FOR THOSE WHO GIVE OUR TESTIMONY BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN THE TESTIMONY SPACE RATHER THAN THE APPLICANT SPACE, BUT ACTUALLY, HE IS THE APPLICANT, SO I'M GOING TO.

I'M NOT PICKY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL COUNCIL MEMBERS WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY TESTIMONY.

SO IS THERE ANY REBUTTAL OR ANY BACKUP? I MEAN, ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE'RE JUST ABOUT READY TO WRAP.

THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING, AND WE WILL TURN TO ALL OF YOU TO PERHAPS DEBATE THIS BEFORE YOU DECIDE WHAT MOTIONS ARE TO BE MADE. OUR COUNSELORS LEADING THIS OR ONCE AGAIN, COUNSELOR, COUNSELOR.

LARSON. AND SO DO YOU HAVE DO YOU WANT TO KICK OFF THE CONVERSATION QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY. YES, BUT IS THIS A QUESTION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ASKED IN THE HEARING? DO I HAVE TO REOPEN THE HEARING? IS IT A PROCEDURAL QUESTION OR IS IT A SUBSTANTIVE QUESTION? ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL WE WILL REOPEN THIS HEARING WITH THE IF THERE'S NO WHAT'S THE WORD? OBJECTION. OBJECTION FROM THE COUNSEL. ALL RIGHT, MR. SANDER, WE'D ASK YOU TO COME FORWARD ONCE AGAIN. SO I GUESS YOU COULD TELL I HAVE THESE CONCERNS.

BUT THIS IS BECOMING A STRATEGIC ARTERIAL SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE.

YES, SIR. SO IF THERE IS NO RETAINING WALL LIKE WE HAVE INSIDE, WE HAVE THAT WALL THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE FROM SOUND OF A MAJOR ARTERIAL SECTION. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE HERE.

BUT SUPPOSE IN FIVE YEARS, ALL THESE RESIDENTS SAY WE'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BUFFER FROM ALL THAT TRAFFIC ON THAT STRATEGIC ARTERIAL.

WHO BUILDS? WHO'S ON THE HOOK FOR THAT IF WE DON'T DO IT NOW? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. FIRST OFF, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THAT WALL IS CONSTRUCTED.

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I KNOW THE ONES ON SUNNY SIDE. IF I COULD BE WRONG, AS IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME, THAT WAS DONE THROUGH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THROUGH A GRANT, AND THAT WAS WHY THOSE WERE CONSTRUCTED ALONG SUNNYSIDE FOR SANITATION.

BUT I WASN'T HERE DURING THAT TIME. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTAND.

THAT WAS GOOD. AND THAT WAS BUILT AND THAT'S WHAT THOSE WERE.

AND I GUESS BEHIND MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE SAY IT'S GOING TO BE A STRATEGIC ARTERIAL, WE'RE TALKING THIS IS GOING TO GET SUBSTANTIALLY MORE TRAFFIC THAN IT HAS NOW.

THAT'S I MEAN, THAT MIGHT NOT BE FOR TEN YEARS OR 15 YEARS, BUT THAT'S THE IDEA OF A STRATEGIC ARTERIAL.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S TRUE. TRAFFIC COULD VERY MUCH INCREASE.

OKAY. SO MY LAST QUESTION IS WHEN WE DO PUDS, WE OFTEN ARE ALLOWED TO MAKE COUNCIL DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT MUST BE THERE.

COULD WE MAKE A DECISION THAT THEY HAVE TO BUILD THE WALL? THAT IS UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY. THAT'S ONE OF THE ELEMENTS OF A PUD REQUEST.

AND I FOR ME, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE APPLICANT TO WEIGH IN ON THAT JUST FOR THEIR INPUT.

BUT, YES, YOU CAN REQUEST THAT AS A CONDITION.

ALL RIGHT. MY QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED. OKAY. BUT I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. PAYNE TO COME FORWARD. AND JUST ADDRESS. OR MAYBE.

OH, I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN YOUR NAME EITHER. I'M SORRY.

AARON. ASK EITHER ONE OF YOU TO ADDRESS WHAT THE COST MIGHT DO TO YOUR COST PER UNIT.

I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO MATH. THAT'S ACCURATE.

INSTANTLY. SO THIS WOULD JUST BE BACK OF THE NAPKIN KIND OF THING, DEPENDING ON WHAT WAS REQUIRED.

IT WOULD BE IT WOULD INCREASE A LOT, PARTICULARLY A BARRIER LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE ON SUNNY SIDE.

I WILL SAY THAT WE DO HAVE STREET TREES EVERY 30FT, WHICH ACCOMPLISHES SIMILAR PURPOSE OF DAMPENING SOUND AND ALSO PROTECTING THE BARRIER.

FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A VINYL FENCE ACROSS THERE AND NOT INCREASE IT NEARLY AS MUCH.

ALSO THE DAMPEN SOUND AND LIMIT THE EXPOSURE TO THOSE UNITS TO SCIENCE CENTER.

RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THEN I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND THEN TURN TO OUR LIAISONS TO KICK OFF DEBATE.

SO I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO SAY OTHER THAN I DON'T LOVE PUDS.

I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. BUT I THINK IN LIGHT OF WHERE THIS SITS AND WITHIN OTHER DENSITY.

AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S THE SCHOOLS. AND THE BIGGEST PROBLEM I HAVE IS THE ROADWAY IN PUDS, LIKE, WHO'S GOING TO OWN THEM OVER THE YEARS. AND IN THIS CASE, THE ROADWAY IS LARGELY A PARKING LOT THAT THE THE OWNER, THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION LARGELY WOULD PROBABLY TAKE ON.

I THINK I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS. BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS I WHEN YOU FIRST SAID THAT, I'M LIKE, OH YEAH, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GET BUSIER. AND THEN I THOUGHT, OH NO, NO, NO, BECAUSE THAT OVERPASS IS GOING AWAY IN TWO YEARS OR FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT, LIKE MY IN-LAWS, LIVE NORTH AND ALL THAT DEVELOPMENT BY THE GOLF COURSE, THEY'RE ALL GOING TO GET NOW ON THE HIGHWAY AND NOT COME THROUGH THERE ANYMORE. I THINK THIS COULD BECOME LESS BUSY OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. WE THINK OF OUR ROADS ALL GETTING BUSIER AND BUSIER, BUT IN THIS CASE IT MIGHT BE. I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA, BUT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILOR FREEMAN. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS, HONESTLY.

THIS AREA WAS ANNEXED IN 1959, AND IT'S BEEN SITTING VACANT ALL THOSE YEARS.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN KIND OF IGNORED PART OF TOWN AND WITH THE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND CONTINUING ON THIS TREND IN THIS AREA.

I THINK IT'S GREAT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO REVITALIZE THIS AREA A LITTLE BIT.

THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS OR CROSS TALK. COUNCILOR PRCHAL.

I ALSO I ALSO DON'T LET PUDS I MY CONCERN IS IS WITH THE I CAN UNDERSTAND THE RETENTION POND PART. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUT OVER TIME.

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IT'S THE VARIANCE. IT'S. BUT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT SO HIGH ON THE DENSITY.

SO THAT'S GOOD. THEY'RE INDIVIDUALLY OWNED WHICH IS ONCE AGAIN TO THE POSITIVE.

TO COUNCILMEMBER RADFORD'S POINT, IT IS NOT A PRIVATE STREET.

IT IS MORE LIKE PARKING. AND THERE'S TWO PER UNIT.

SO JUST WITH EVERY FLIP OF THE COIN THERE IS PROS AND CONS.

I'M STILL A LITTLE UNDECIDED, BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS HAS SAT VACANT SINCE 1959 AND AND I DO LIKE THE PRICE POINT FOR HOMEOWNERS TO GET INTO.

SO THAT'S I KNOW THAT DIDN'T SAY MUCH OTHER THAN TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE IS A TRADE OFF IN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE VARIANCES AND THE BEAUTY ITSELF. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M SITTING AND WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR ANYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS ON THAT.

I DO THINK IT'S GOOD TO HEAR YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESSES RIGHT.

I THINK THAT ALWAYS HELPS ALL OF US TO HEAR THOSE THINGS.

YEAH. I MEAN, DENIAL MEANS MAYBE IT SITS FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS AND THE TAX BASE DOESN'T GROW.

YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALSO THINGS TO CONSIDER THAT WE BENEFIT FROM AS A CITY.

WE GET MORE BENEFIT FROM THIS BECAUSE WE USE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT IN ANY NEW SEWER. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO PUT IN NEW, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY.

AND THE AVERAGE COST IS IN THE 20 TO $30,000 PER YOU KNOW, FOR COVERING STREETS TO O&M FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.

SO WHEN WE USE EXISTING ROADS WE CAN JUST KEEP TRACK OF WE CAN KEEP MAINTAINING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE INSTEAD OF HAVING TO BUILD NEW ROADS, WHICH OVER TIME CAN BE VERY IMPACTFUL. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME MORE THOUGHTS IF YOU WANT, IF PEOPLE WANTED TO HEAR DECISION MAKING IF YOU BUILD THIS MANY UNITS IN FRINGE IN A SPRAWL KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN YOU WOULD LOSE ABOUT $1 MILLION, PROBABLY OVER A TEN YEAR PERIOD, TO O&M, TO PROPERTY TAX LOSS AND TO OTHER THINGS.

SO THIS IS A SMARTER WAY TO DEVELOP. I DON'T LIKE PUDS BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING WE'RE BUILDING LITTLE CITIES AND CITIES.

AND WHEN PEOPLE LIKE COMPLAIN ABOUT THEIR STREETS AND THEY THINK IT'S THE CITY WHEN IT'S REALLY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

ASSOCIATION. AND I WISH WE WOULD JUST FORM OUR CODE SO THAT DEVELOPERS WOULD BE ABLE TO JUST DO IT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

IT WOULD BE SMARTER FOR US. AND AND YET GETTING THAT RIGHT IS IS REALLY DIFFICULT IN EVERY SITUATION.

SO IT'S NOT EASY TO DO WHAT I JUST SAID. SO MY THOUGHTS.

BUT OTHERWISE I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE. WELL I'LL EXPLAIN MY VOTE.

AND I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN A PUD THAT I DIDN'T LIKE.

I DISLIKE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE ALL SAYING AND WHY IT'S SO DIFFICULT.

AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD MY CONCERN GOING INTO THE FUTURE.

BUT IT'S A DRIVE AISLE. BUT THEY'VE MET THE 26 FOOT SPACE FOR A FIREFIGHTER EQUIPMENT TO COME THROUGH THERE, WHICH IS REQUIRED. AND I'M LOOKING AT THE PARKING LOT AND DIGGING IT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SET IN A WAY THAT CARS WOULD NOT WANT TO BE PARKED IN THAT DRIVE BY, WHICH BECOMES A PROBLEM. YEAH, YEAH. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A GOOD PLAN.

I LIKE THE PRICE POINT. IT'S A DEAL. I WILL SAY THAT ONCE SAFETY HAS BEEN MET.

THEN WE'RE IN THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS, DESIGN AND DIFFERENT PEOPLE'S TASTES AND PREFERENCES.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S A PRODUCT FOR EVERY CUSTOMER.

LET'S HOPE THERE'S A CUSTOMER FOR THIS PRODUCT. AND WITH THE PRICE POINT LIKE THAT IN THE MARKET THAT WE HAVE, THIS COULD BE A REAL BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO I'M GOING TO TURN TO COUNCILOR.

I'M GOING TO ADD ONE MORE THING REALLY QUICK TO THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THE CUSTOMER, AND I THINK I MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THEY ARE BACKING TO A PARKING LOT. IT IS ON THE THE OWNER, THE DEVELOPER, TO DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS A PRODUCT THAT THEY THINK THEY CAN SELL.

I THINK AT THE PRICE POINT AND THE, THE HOMEOWNER OPTION THERE, I MEAN, THIS IS I, I AM GOING TO VOTE YES SIMPLY FOR THOSE REASONS THAT I AM SWAYED BY THE SAFETY AND THE THE ABILITY FOR THE OWNER TO MAKE IT THE BEST PRODUCT SO THAT IT'S A FOR SALE PROPERTY.

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YES. RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND MOTION. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE REINSTATEMENT OF RELEVANT CRITERIA AND STANDARDS FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR.

ANDERSON. TOWNHOME DIVISION NUMBER TWO. AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR LARSON.

AND WITH THAT, WE'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL. VOTE. BURTENSHAW.

YES. DINGMANN. YES. FRANCIS A BRADFORD A LARSON.

YES. FREEMAN. YES. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD AND PLANT LOTS OF TREES.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. WITH THAT WE WILL INVITE MR.

[5.D.4) Amendment to Title 11, Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, Sections 11-2-5, Allowed Uses in Industrial and Special Purpose Zones; 11-2-6, Standards for Allowed Uses; 11-3-9, Purpose of Industrial Zones; 11-7-1, Definitions of Title 11]

AND SO THESE ARE ORDINANCES? YES. THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY THESE AREN'T AS DIFFICULT AS THE PD.

SO THESE ARE COMPLICATED. SO THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT.

THE NEXT ITEM I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO JUMP TO TELL A LITTLE BIT OF A STORY.

I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE END OF MY PRESENTATION OF WHY THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TODAY.

THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT OWNS THE THE SALVAGE YARD ALMOST ADJACENT TO THE CITY. HE OWNS A NUMBER OF PROPERTIES UP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF OUR TOWN, AND HE WAS WANTING TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY, BUT WE HAVE NO PROVISION IN OUR CODE ADDRESSING SALVAGE YARDS.

THEY SO IN THAT ESSENCE, THEY AREN'T PERMITTED IN THE CITY.

IF HE WERE TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY, WE WOULD RUN INTO ISSUES OF LEGAL NONCONFORMANCE AND THE ABILITY OF HIM TO EXPAND HIS BUSINESS OR ALSO TO HAVE SOME CONTROL ON THE BUSINESS. SO HE APPROACHED US.

WE EVALUATED THIS AND SAW THAT SALVAGE YARDS ARE WERE NOT IN OUR ZONING CODES.

SO WE REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF SALVAGE YARDS IN THE AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN.

AND WE EVALUATED THIS REQUEST, AND WE FELT LIKE IT WAS PRUDENT TO ALLOW THIS AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE EYE AND MS ZONE, OR TO PRESENT TO YOU AS AN ALLOWED USE.

SORRY, IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE ALLOWING IT. IT GOES BEFORE YOU.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS SALVAGE YARDS THAT THEY WOULD BE A PERMITTED USE IN THE EYE AND END ZONE WHICH REMEMBER, IS THE MOST INTENSE INDUSTRIAL ZONE IN OUR CITY.

SO THEY WOULD BE A PERMITTED USE. WE WOULD ALSO SET STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODE REGARDING PROVISIONS OF HOW HOW THESE ARE REGULATED. AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH VERY BRIEFLY, SOME OF THE PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN HERE.

SO WE WOULD PUT SOME LAND USE CONTROLS ON THERE.

THERE WOULD BE ELEMENTS OF SCREENING ENSURING THAT NO STORAGE OF WHATEVER MATERIALS TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY THESE ARE ABANDONED CARS OR CARS THAT ARE USED FOR SCRAP, BUT THERE ALSO ARE PROVISIONS IN THERE FOR THE STORAGE OF SCRAP METAL, THAT THOSE WOULD BE INTERNAL TO THE SITE, THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE STORED IN THE FRONT SETBACK.

IT WOULD LIMIT THE STACKING HEIGHT OF THESE MATERIALS.

IF THESE WERE TO BE CRUSHED OR ALTHOUGH I'M THINKING OF THE ONE SUPERMAN MOVIE WHERE HE GETS CRUSHED IN A CAR COMPACTOR, BUT TO COMPACT THIS MATERIAL DOWN THAT THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF THAT WOULD BE REGULATED AS WELL.

WE ALSO WOULD HAVE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS IF THERE WERE RESIDENTIAL, EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE OR ADJACENT, THAT WE WOULD HAVE SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS THERE.

AND ALSO, ONE THING THAT CAME UP THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY AS STAFF THAT THERE WOULD BE IF THERE WAS EVER ONE PROPOSED OF AN INN THAT WAS CLOSE TO THE SNAKE RIVER, THAT WE WOULD ENSURE THAT THAT WAS PROPERLY SEPARATED AS WELL.

WE DON'T FORESEE THAT, BUT THERE ARE SOME INDUSTRIAL ZONES THAT POTENTIALLY COULD GET RESOLD BY THE SNAKE RIVER SPECIALTY OCCUPATIONS.

AND THAT WAS THAT'S WHAT IS BEFORE YOU. SO WE HAVE THE LAND USE REGULATION.

WE WOULD FLUSH THAT OUT. WE ALSO WOULD DEFINE WHAT A SALVAGE YARD IS.

YOU ALWAYS NEED THE DEFINITION AS YOU REGULATE THESE THINGS.

AND THEN YES. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU ALSO BE AWARE, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING AS WELL AS

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THESE ARE HEAVILY REGULATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY DEQ.

SO THEY CAN'T PUT THINGS DOWN IN OUR GROUNDWATER.

THEY DO GET FINED. THEY DO GET PENALIZED FOR THEM.

AND THAT IS HANDLED PRIMARILY THROUGH THE STATE THROUGH DEQ.

SO IF WE GET COMPLAINTS, WE WOULD TURN IT TO THEM ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE AND THEY WOULD GO IN AND TAKE CARE OF IT.

BUT JUST IN TERMS OF OUR REGULATION WE'RE LOOK, WE'RE PROPOSING AS STAFF TO ALLOW THIS TO BE ALLOWED IN THE CITY LIMITS.

IT ALSO THE REGULATION SUPPLYING THE SCREENING AND STACKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MITIGATE AS MUCH NUISANCE FROM THESE USES AS POSSIBLE.

DOES IT GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION? PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED THE ENVIRONMENTAL SIDE.

THAT WAS A LOT OF WHAT THEY DISCUSSED. BUT IN THE END, THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO INCLUDE THIS IN OUR ZONING CODE.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE.

ALRIGHT, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR LARSON, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I DO, AS YOU LOOK TO DO THE RESEARCH TO ADD THIS TO OUR CODE, I ASSUME THERE'S OTHER CITIES THAT PROBABLY HAVE CODE THAT DEALS WITH WITH THESE KINDS OF. YES, SIR.

YEAH. THEY WE DID LOOK PRIMARILY IN THE STATE OF IDAHO.

IT'S ACTUALLY FUNNY, A LOT OF THE REGULATION THAT WE SEE ON THE LAND USE SIDE IS DEALING WITH SCREENING.

AND SO WE MADE SURE WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THIS SECTION OF CODE.

BUT YES, WE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, WHAT THEY DO THAT ARE PERMITTED AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

AS PART OF OUR RESEARCH. THANK YOU. ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, I HAD A FOLLOW UP AND THEN I'LL GO TO YOU, COUNCILOR BRADFORD. BUT I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR IN YOUR DRAFTING OF THIS AND THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DID, IT LOOKS THAT TO ME THAT THERE WAS SOME CARE AND THOUGHT GIVEN TO THIS.

AND I PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE THE NOD GIVEN TO PROTECTING THE SNAKE RIVER.

AS YOU KNOW, THAT IS A COUNCIL PRIORITY FOR THIS COMING YEAR IS THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT NOT THIS YEAR ONLY, BUT THIS YEAR GOING FORWARD THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE PROACTIVE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE SNAKE RIVER IS PROTECTED AS AN ASSET TO THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THIS IS JUST ONE SMALL WAY OF ENSURING THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILOR BRADFORD. YOUR QUESTION.

SO CAN YOU? I THINK IN MY HEAD, SOMETIMES I THINK I KNOW WHAT THIS IS BUT 750FT.

OH, YEAH. THAT MEASUREMENT. YEAH. IS THAT ONE? IT SEEMS LIKE A BLOCK FACE IN OUR ORDINANCE IS 2000FT, AND THE OLD TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS ARE LIKE 450.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME A BLOCK IN THE NUMBERED STREETS IS ABOUT 450FT, 600 LESS.

SO IT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY. YES. YEAH. AND I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF THE LINEAR FEET PER MILE 16,280.

YEAH. I WAS, I WAS THINKING OF IS IT A QUARTER OR 5280.

YEAH. YEAH. IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S INGRAINED IN MY HEAD.

AND WE HAVE TO KNOW WHEN WE CERTIFY THAT'S A NUMBER IN 43, FIVE 60 PER SQUARE FOOT PER ACRE.

YEAH. YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO I WAS TRYING TO DO THE MATH REALLY QUICK.

HOW FAR THAT IS? COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

IT'S NOT A QUARTER OF A MILE, BUT. IT'S WHY 750FT LIKE TO ME, IF WE'RE GOING TO, I THINK WE JUST ELIMINATE THEM.

YOU KNOW, ON ON THE RIVER. I MEAN, WE WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET RID OF SOME OF THESE.

AND SO WHY 750FT? YEAH. AND THAT'S A VERY VALID QUESTION.

I, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S AN ARBITRARY NUMBER, BUT IT WAS JUST A NUMBER THAT WE FELT GAVE PROPER DISTANCE.

IT WAS LONGER THAN A BLOCK. BUT THAT IS IN YOUR PURVIEW.

I MEAN, WE COULD YOU ARE THE LAND USE AUTHORITY.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO NOT ALLOW THEM ALONG THE RIVER, WE JUST WANTED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT POTENTIALLY A PROPERTY OWNER ALONG THE SNAKE RIVER WHILE STILL PROTECTING THE SNAKE RIVER.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS TIRES. THEY'RE JUST SUCH A STORAGE ISSUE AND SUCH A AND I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT I THINK IF THIS WOULD BECOME A TIRE STORE. WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S CLOSE TO THE CITY IS GOING LIKE THE LESS THEY HAVE TO TRANSPORT THEM TO GET THEM AWAY FROM THEIR GARAGE.

YOU KNOW WHERE THEY'RE FIXING THE TIRES. IF THERE'S SOMETHING CLOSE, THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT. YEAH.

THAT'S A THAT'S AN INTERESTING ONE. WE USE THE DEFINITION THAT WAS COMMON PRACTICE.

TIRES ARE IN THERE FOR STORAGE. A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THAT.

AGAIN THESE IF YOU'RE STORING TIRES, REMEMBER THEY'RE STILL THEY HAVE TO MEET FIRE CODE.

AND IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY STORE, THERE IS PART OF THE ISD, THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE THAT DOES ADDRESS TIRE STORAGE AND MITIGATION OF THAT BECAUSE

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THERE WAS ANOTHER ELEMENT TO IT, TOO, THAT WAS INTERESTING IN OUR RESEARCH FROM I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT SALVAGE YARDS ARE KIND OF LIKE THE FARMS THAT I GREW UP IN IN KANSAS. THEY THEY'RE ACTUALLY LARGE CONGLOMERATES.

SO A LOT OF THESE STORAGE YARDS ARE ACTUALLY OWNED OUT OF MAJOR COMPANIES IN, LIKE, IN CALIFORNIA.

AND THE WHOLE BUSINESS MODEL OF THEM IS THEY LOCATE THEM TYPICALLY OUTSIDE OF TOWN, AND THEN AS THE PROPERTY VALUE GOES UP, THEN THEY SELL THEM AND CLEAR. SO THAT WAS KIND OF ENLIGHTENING TO ME.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS KIND OF THE BUSINESS MODEL OF THESE.

SO THEY STORE UNTIL THEY CAN GET ENOUGH OUT OF THE LAND TO THEN SELL IT OFF FOR DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GIVES YOU ANY, ANY HELP ON THAT.

SO CAN THIS THIS THE FIRE CODE WILL SO THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE THAT WE ABIDE BY, YOU FEEL LIKE WILL KEEP THIS FROM BECOMING 10,000 TIRES? YES. IT CAN'T JUST BE TIRES. IT WOULD BE CARS AND TIRES.

AND YEAH, MOSTLY IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THERE'S A COUNTY PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND EAST THAT STORING TIRES.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED THAT THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE ACTUALLY ADDRESSES THIS, BECAUSE WE GOT A COMPLAINT IN OUR OFFICE IT WASN'T OUR JURISDICTION, UNFORTUNATELY, AND WE HAD A LONG TERM LEGAL DEALT WITH FOR 2 OR 3 YEARS.

WE HAD A TIRE PROBLEM IN THE CITY. SO THAT'S INTERESTING.

AGAIN, YOU COULD SCRATCH THAT. YOU COULD YOU COULD NOT ALLOW THE STORAGE OF TIRES.

BUT JUST BE AWARE THERE ARE PROVISIONS THAT CAPTURE THAT FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THIS ONE, I DON'T THINK THIS ORDINANCE I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT NOW, BUT I DON'T LIKE ALL OF IT BEING ON A CANAL EITHER.

I MEAN, IT'S A WATERWAY THAT'S GOING TO BE JUST AS.

I MEAN, WE THINK OF THE SNAKE RIVER AS BEAUTIFYING, BUT THIS IS WHAT'S IRRIGATING OUR CROPS AND REALIZE WE'RE I, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANYWHERE IN THIS CODE CHANGE.

YEAH. SO I WONDER IF WE COULD MAYBE NOT JUST SAY RIVER, BUT ANY OFFER FROM CANAL CANALS, CANALS AND RIVERS.

I DON'T KNOW. ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THEM BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION.

I, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PERMEABILITY OF THE SURFACE.

SO IF I JUST AS I THINK THROUGH THIS PROPERTY NOW.

SO I GREW UP. DOWN BY WINCO AND THE CANAL WAS THE EDGE OF THE CITY.

AND NOW WE'RE WE'RE TWO MILES BEYOND. RIGHT. WE'RE LIKE TWO MILES NOW AND NOW INTO THIS.

SO HERE WE ARE. I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING THAT THE CITY COMES UP TO THIS POINT.

AND SO, SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO CURRENTLY EXIST WOULD NEED THIS ZONING ALLOWANCE. I KNOW THAT THIS PROPERTY ALSO SOME OF THE ISSUES SURROUNDING GOING INTO THE STAYING IN THE COUNTY AND DEVELOPING IS THAT THE FIRE WELLS ARE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. AND SO IT'S A IT'S ALWAYS A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT TO COME INTO THE CITY AND HOOK UP TO WATER, SEWER OR BUILD A FIRE. WELL, SO THERE'S NOTHING REQUIRING THIS OWNER TO COME INTO THE CITY.

SO AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY PRACTICING THEIR BUSINESS.

IF THEY COME, IF THEY DO OPT INTO THE CITY, THEY CAN CONTINUE AS THEY ARE PRACTICING.

BUT IF THEY EXPAND AT ALL, WHAT WOULD THEY WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. IF THE EXPANSION OF THE USE, THEN IF THIS CODE WERE IN PLACE, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THIS. SO HOW WOULD THEY BE? THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE TO ASPHALT THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY, OR IT WAS WHERE THEY WERE CRUSHING IS, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, I WAS TRYING TO READ THAT.

IT JUST SAID THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN IMPERMEABLE SURFACE THAT HAS A MEANS TO COLLECT AND PROPERLY DISPOSE OF OILS AND OTHER FLUIDS IN THE VEHICLES.

I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS SPECIFIC JUST TO THE CRUSH SITE.

YEAH, THE CRUSHING AREA WAS WHAT THAT WAS INTENDED TO CAPTURE.

YES. OKAY. AND SO THEN THEY HAVE THIS SCREENING TO DO TO THE EXTERIOR.

THE EXTERIOR SCREENING MAYBE HAVE TO MOVE BACK SOME OF THE SALVAGE THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT WITHIN WITHIN THAT THAT WOULD BE TOO CLOSE TO THE FENCE

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OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNEW WHAT WAS NONCONFORMING AND CONFORMING.

AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO DO WE NEED AND MAYBE THIS IS PART A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL.

BUT IF ONE D IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE SAYS THE SITE SHALL HAVE AN AREA DESIGNATED FOR THE PROCESSING OF VEHICLES AND CHEMICALS, THE SITE BEING THE CRUSHING SITE SHOULD BE AT THAT ADJECTIVE THERE OR TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THE USE OF THE WORD THE SITE COULD JUST REFER TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY SUDDENLY THINKING LIKE, OH MAN, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ASPHALT WHAT USED TO BE YOUR YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T THAT WOULDN'T EVER MAKE SENSE FOR A BUT I DON'T KNOW IF CRUSHING IS THE RIGHT WORD BUT DECONSTRUCTION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT WORD WOULD BE TO CLARIFY.

DO YOU. I'M SORRY, DIRECTOR, DO YOU FEEL LIKE TABLING THIS AND REWORKING SOME OF THIS, OR IS THERE A TIME ELEMENT THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE. THERE ISN'T A TIME ELEMENT. WE WERE WE WERE TRYING TO BE DEVELOPER FRIENDLY ON IT, BUT YOU AS THE LAND USE AUTHORITY, IF WE WAITED A MONTH AND MAYBE CHANGED THE FEET AND AND AND DID SOME OF THIS STUFF, THEN YOU WOULD BE IT WOULDN'T COST SOME DEVELOPER MONEY.

AS FAR AS. YEAH, NOT MY UNDERSTANDING. YOU ALSO CAN AS THE LAND USE AUTHORITY IF YOU WANTED TO STRIKE SOMETHING OR ADD A WORD OR THINGS.

YEAH. YOU CAN. I'M JUST NOT SURE I WANT TO KIND OF THINK THROUGH THE RIVER AND WATERWAYS AND KIND OF THINK THROUGH WHERE THAT NUMBER SHOULD BE.

SO IT'S NOT ME CHOOSING 1400 BECAUSE YOU SAID SEVEN.

YOU KNOW, LIKE, IT MIGHT BE A MORE THOUGHTFUL NUMBER TO GET TO, BUT THAT'S THE ONE THING ABOUT ME TONIGHT THAT I DON'T WANT TO JUST COME UP WITH A NEW NUMBER, BUT I'M. I THINK 700FT IS TOO CLOSE TO WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO PROTECT PERSONALLY.

HOWEVER, THERE COULD BE OTHER WAYS OF PROTECTING AND THE IMPERMEABILITY OR HAVING LINERS OR THINGS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ACTUAL USE IS, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE STORING TIRES, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RISK TO THE TO THE RIVER AS COMPARED TO MAYBE STORING ANTIFREEZE AND OIL. YEAH. BUT SO THERE COULD BE OTHER WAYS OF CREATING CONDITIONS BESIDES DISTANCE.

BUT I BECAUSE YOU ALSO WANT TO THINK ABOUT GROUNDWATER AND WHATEVER ELSE LEVELS.

BUT I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO NO WELL, NO, WE WON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN APPETITE FOR TABLING UNTIL THAT MOTION IS MADE. WE TAKE A VOTE.

I WAS I DON'T NEED THE TABLE. WE CAN WORK THROUGH IT.

BUT IF OTHER PEOPLE FELT LIKE I DID, YOU COULD ALSO JUST NOT PERMIT IT ALONG THE RIVER.

YOU COULD SAY ADJACENT TO THE SNAKE RIVER IS NOT PERMITTED.

THANK YOU. WOULD YOU HAVE TO STIPULATE A DISTANCE TO DEFINE ADJACENT.

TYPICALLY, YES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEFINE IT. AND SO DISTANCE OF THE RIVER.

WELL I GUESS COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS RUNNING A LOT OF THOUGHTS FROM MY HEAD.

AND I KNOW THAT WE ARE MOVING IN A DIRECTION OF AN OVERLAY ALONG THE RIVER CORRIDOR.

CAN I THINK, COUNCILOR BRADFORD, YOU RAISED A REALLY GOOD POINT ABOUT WHAT'S THE RIGHT DISTANCE FROM THE RIVER.

AND LIKE IF WE JUST SAID, WELL, 1000FT, THEN I'D SAY, WELL, I SHOULD HAVE TALKED TO YOU IN A MEETING AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT'S AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT, BECAUSE I COULD JUST PULL IT OUT OF MY HEAD AND GO, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD DISTANCE. BUT I DON'T KNOW. SO THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS, I GUESS. WELL, WE'RE NOT TO WELL, WE COULD PASS IT AND AMEND IT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND YOU'D HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT WITH YOUR STAFF AND SAY, WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE THING, A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN 750FT.

AND HOW MIGHT IT FIT TO OUR OVERLAY PLAN? SO.

OR WE COULD TABLE IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW. I'M ALSO I'M ALSO OKAY WITH WHAT HE SAID JUST NOT ALLOWING HIM ON THE RIVER.

AND THEN THAT'S UP TO THE LIKE WHEN WE GO TO PLAT THINGS.

IF IF THE DEPARTMENT SAYS IT'S ADJACENT TO THE RIVER, I DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? I'D PREFER TO SET A NUMBER BECAUSE YOU BECAUSE OTHERWISE ADJACENT COULD BE IN A LOT OF THINGS. YEAH. AND AND I AM THINKING IN TERMS OF WHAT WE MIGHT SEE IN AN OVERLAY ZONE THAT REALLY TRIES TO PROTECT THE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE RIVER. YEAH. WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH THAT YET. RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET. BUT WE WANT TO WRITE THIS.

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THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IN MY HEAD. I'M ALSO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO NOT HAVE A TIRE STORAGE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SALVAGE YARD WITHOUT TIRES.

I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS SINCE OUR MEETING. YOU KNOW, IS THERE A SOLUTION? BECAUSE I'M PERSUADED BY THE BUSINESS MODEL, HOWEVER. AND THE FIRE CODE. AND TYPICALLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S INTENDING TO HAVE DECADES OF TIRE STORAGE WANTING TO BE ANNEXED UNLESS THEY REALLY ARE PURSUING THE MODEL OF TRYING TO ENHANCE THE PROPERTY VALUE AND MOVE INTO THE CITY FOR ALL THE AMENITIES THE CITY OFFERS, BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T NEED ANY OF THOSE AMENITIES.

AND UNLESS DEVELOPMENT WAS IN THE FUTURE. RIGHT.

AND SO I'M PERSUADED THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAYBE WORRY AS MUCH ABOUT THAT, BUT BUT THAT IS MY THOUGHT.

NOTHING MORE. I I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS OTHER THAN I THINK WE SHOULD I MEAN, NO LESS THAN 750FT. THAT IS FOR SURE FOR ME. BUT THEN TRYING TO DEFINE THE SPACE FOR THE IMPERMEABLE PERMEABLE SURFACE BECAUSE THE SITE IS. I THINK THAT'S TOO BROAD. I DON'T THINK THE ENTIRE SITE.

DID YOU COME UP WITH ANY THOUGHTS FOR I THINK IT SAYS THE SITE SHALL HAVE AN AREA DESIGNATED FOR THE PROCESSING OF VEHICLES AND CHEMICALS.

SO I THINK THE. OH, AND THEN IT SAYS THE PROCESSING AREA.

SO THAT REQUIREMENT FOR AN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IS ONLY FOR THE PROCESSING AREA, NOT THE ENTIRE SITE.

THAT'S THE WAY THE WAY I READ IT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY. SO THAT'S JUST IT'S JUST THE AREA THAT IT I MEAN, IT'S I GUESS THAT WILL COME.

YEAH. EVERYBODY WILL DECIDE WHAT THAT EXACTLY IS WHEN IT'S DONE.

IT'S LIKE, OH, WE'RE HERE'S YOUR CARS. YOU'RE PROCESSING THEM HERE.

YEAH. YOU KNOW THE WHOLE AREA. IT'S A DESIGNATED AREA TO PROCESS.

THAT AREA HAS TO BE IMPERMEABLE. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE WHOLE SITE TO BE JUST WHERE IF THEY'RE GOING TO PROCESS, IT HAS TO BE IMPERMEABLE, WHATEVER THAT AREA IS.

YEAH. WE WOULD HAVE IT DESIGNATED ON A SITE. ON SITE.

OKAY. I THINK WHAT I'LL DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, AND THEN IF IT FAILS, THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

SO I MOVE TO TABLE THIS AMENDMENT AND, AND WITH A DATE CERTAIN OF NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND THAT WITH THE DIRECTION THAT DIRECTOR SANDER TRIES TO DEAL WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE JUST HAD TO DEAL WITH THE SQUARE FOOT.

I MEAN, THE DISTANCE FROM THE RIVER, THE PERMEABLE SURFACE BEING REALLY CLEAR AND CLEAR ON THE PERMEABLE SURFACE, JUST SO YOU KNOW. YEAH. OKAY. JUST JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE WANTING.

YOU'RE WANTING ME TO TAKE THIS BACK IF THE MOTION PASSES.

YEAH. THE MOTION TO TABLE. BRING IT BACK FOR NEXT CITY COUNCIL HEARINGS AT THE END OF OCTOBER.

OCTOBER 23RD, 23RD. AND HAVE STAFF LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF SEPARATION FROM PRIMARILY THE STATE, RIVER AND WATERWAYS. I'D BE INTERESTED BECAUSE I THINK ANTIFREEZE LEAKING AND ALL THE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN IN A SALVAGE YARD.

I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, THE MOMENT I SAW THIS WHEN WE TALKED EARLIER THIS WEEK, ALL I KEPT THINKING WAS I SHOULDN'T SWEAR.

OUR RENDERING PLAN AND HOW QUICKLY THAT DECISION HAPPENED.

AND THEN WE'VE PAID SOME IN SOME WAYS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND ALLOWING THAT INTO THE CITY.

AND SO THIS KIND OF REMINDED ME OF THAT. I JUST WANT TO TAKE SOME TIME.

THAT'S MY THOUGHT. SO I'VE MADE A MOTION. SO IF THERE'S A I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD TO THAT, THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF TALK ABOUT HOW IT WOULD FIT INTO WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT PROPOSING FOR AN OVERLAY FOR THE RIVER, FOR THE RIVER CORRIDOR.

I'D LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS, JUST BRIEFLY, THE IDEA OF A WATERWAY.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT AGAIN, DO WE NEED SOME KIND OF A DEFINITION? DEFINITION? YOU KNOW, LIKE, MAYBE IT DOESN'T QUALIFY, AT LEAST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS WATERWAY, I'LL BE INTERESTED. TO BE HONEST, CANALS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THE ONES THAT I WORRY ABOUT MORE ARE THE STORM WATER.

YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE WILLOW CREEK AND SAND CREEK AND OUR, YOU KNOW.

SO ANYWAY, ARE YOU ARE YOU AWARE OF THEIR KIND OF EXISTING? THERE'S ALSO HE DID TELL US THAT THE LIAISON MEETING THAT THERE IS A LOT OF PROTECTIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY FOR THE STATE OF IDAHO, AND THEY HAVE TO INSPECT. SO I THINK WE'RE PRETTY SAFE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE AROUND THE WATERWAYS.

SO IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT, AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE IF YOU CAN, LIKE THE FIRE CODE GAVE ME COMFORT AROUND THE TIRES.

SO I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD POINT. MY GUESS IS DEQ HAS SOME GUIDELINES ON THAT KIND OF THING WITH PROBABLY SOME FAIRLY WELL DEFINED.

I THINK WE MAY FIND THAT A LOT OF THIS IS COVERED BY THAT.

I'LL ALSO POINT OUT THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE THE IMPERMEABLE.

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YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE LEAKING OOZING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE FENCE INTO THE CANAL.

IF IT'S DESIGNED PROPERLY WITH IMPERMEABLE SURFACE IN THE SMART PLACE, THE CANALS WOULDN'T BE IMPACTED.

THE USUALLY THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR THINKING ABOUT TO GROUNDWATER HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LEAKING INTO GROUNDWATER THAT THEN FLOWS TO A RIVER WHERE THERE'S KIND OF CONJUNCT CONJUNCTIVITI, SORRY. WITH BETWEEN THE GROUNDWATER AND THE RIVER CANALS ARE MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH TOO SHALLOW WHERE WE LIVE TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY TO GROUNDWATER THERE MIGHT BE SOME PLACES IN RIGBY WHERE IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT WE'RE NOT RIGBY. WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT WE ARE IN OUR IN OUR WELL-INTENTIONED AND THOUGHTFUL DIALOG.

I THINK WE'RE OVER OVERDOING IT, DOING IT. BUT THAT'S FOR US TO LEARN.

AND THAT'S WHY, FOR ME, MAYOR, I THINK IS THE IMPORTANT QUESTION WAS, IS THERE SOMEONE WAITING? YOU KNOW, IF IT'S MONEY, THEN, YEAH, MAYBE WE TAKE CARE OF IT TONIGHT.

BUT IF THERE'S NOT A PRESSING CONCERN, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS CONVERSATION STARTED IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, AND HERE WE ARE IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR.

AND I HATE TO THINK THAT WE'RE SUPER SLOW, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THERE'S NO CRISIS, WE CAN GET IT RIGHT.

AND THERE JUST IS AN INTEREST TO ANNEX. SO AND THIS IS IN THE AREA OF IMPACT OKAY.

SO I MADE A MOTION. IF THERE'S NOT A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. SO WE'LL ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO TAKE A VOTE OR NOT TAKE A VOTE BUT CONDUCT A VOTE.

COUNCILOR RUTHERFORD, CAN I CLARIFY THE MOTION, PLEASE.

AND I'M GOING TO CONDENSE IT. OKAY. WHAT I'M HEARING IS TABLE THIS AMENDMENT UNTIL THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND. TO LISTEN TO WHAT WE SAID. TAKE THAT AND SEE IF HE.

YEAH. RIGHT. BUT IT IS TO BE TABLED. THAT IS THE THE CRUX OF THE.

OKAY. SPECIFIC AROUND WATER LEAKAGE DISTANCE FROM THE RIVER.

DISTANCE PERMIT ALL ALL OF THE WE JUST LIKE TO SEE THE DEQ BECAUSE IT SAYS IT'S GOVERNED BY DICK.

BUT WE'D LIKE TO TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS. AND I DO THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR VISUAL CONCERNS AROUND THE RIVER VERSUS THE ACTUAL DEQ, CONCERN AROUND THE RIVER. AND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND HERE'S AS WE HAVE THAT, CAN WE HAVE ONE MORE BIT OF THAT CONVERSATION IS IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS ORDINANCE. IT'S THINKING ABOUT WHERE IT SITS IT ACROSS THE CITY THAT I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE IT'S VERY, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, OH, OF COURSE THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE OKAY.

AND AS WE CLEAN IT UP AND WE AS WE ANNEX. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS THE FIRST TIME SOMEONE SHOWS UP AND WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE ASKED. SO I, I AM ALSO GOOD.

GO AHEAD FOR THE VOTE. BUT THAT IS WHY. IT'S BECAUSE IT'S MORE THAN JUST THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

AND ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DIRECTOR SANDER, WHEN WE DO BRING IT BACK AND MAYBE IT WOULD BE BEST TO WORKSHOP THIS IN THE WORK SESSION ON THE 20TH.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A MAP OF THE CITY WITH ALL OF THE IAM ZONES IDENTIFIED.

YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. IT TOOK SEVEN PEOPLE.

BUT THAT IS A VERY GREAT IDEA, MAYOR. WITH THAT IF WE DO DO THIS, IF WE DO THAT, THAT'S GREAT.

BEFORE I TAKE THE VOTE, I AM GOING TO READ THE MOTION JUST TO CLARIFY TABLE THIS AMENDMENT UNTIL THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING SO THAT COUNCIL CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED BY STAFF.

THERE YOU GO. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. I HAVE THAT MOTION MADE BY BRADFORD, SECONDED BY LARSON.

THANK YOU. AND MAYBE COUNCIL CONCERNS AS EXPRESSED IN THE MEETING.

THAT'S A NO BRAINER. I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. GOT IT.

BURTON. SHAUN. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS. AYE.

FREEMAN. YES. LARSON. YES. BRADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT. THIS ITEM WILL BE TABLED, AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ORDINANCE THAT MR.

[5.D.5) Amendment to Title 11, Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance, Sections 11-2-6, Standards for Allowed Land Uses; and 11-7- 1, Definitions related to pet grooming; and 11-4-4, Landscaping, Buffers, and Screening related to the placement and screening of refuse and recycling containers]

I KNOW, GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THE SECOND ONE IS KIND OF A TWO PARTER.

THE FIRST IS DEALING WITH DEFINITIONS OF PERSONAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL CARE.

AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS IN REGARDS TO TRASH ENCLOSURES.

SO, DIRECTOR SANDER, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHY THESE ARE COMING FORWARD?

[02:05:04]

I THINK THAT FRAMES THE CONVERSATION. YEAH. NO PROBLEM, NO PROBLEM.

THIS IS THIS IS REALLY AN EFFORT TO IT'S REALLY DEVELOPER FRIENDLY, BUT IT'S THIS THE FIRST ONE OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES CAME OUT IS BECAUSE WE HAD A REQUEST BY A ANIMAL GROOMER. SO, LIKE, CUTTING HAIR AND NAILS, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

AND WHEN THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, WHEN CARRIE LOOKED AT THIS, HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE, BUT WE HAVE BOARDING AND GROOMING ATTACHED IN OUR BASICALLY IN OUR DEFINITION.

AND SO YOU CAN'T DO ANIMAL GROOMING WITHOUT HAVING BOARDING.

THAT MAKES SENSE. AND YOU CAN'T. SO YOU HAVE TO TIE IN TOGETHER AND YEAH.

AND IT JUST. SO WHEN THE REQUEST CAME, WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, AND ANIMAL BOARDING IS REALLY A MORE INTENSE USE.

IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN BECAUSE IT'S NOISY. BECAUSE IT'S NOISY.

YEAH. YOU HAVE ANIMALS THAT ARE STAYING OVERNIGHT.

THINK OF A KENNEL OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

AND A LOT OF THESE GROOMING BUSINESSES REALLY CAN GO IN ANYWHERE THAT'S RETAIL ORIENTED.

IT'S NOT A MAJOR NUISANCE. THINK OF IT AS CUTTING HUMAN HAIR.

RIGHT. YOU JUST HAVE TO. THEY WOULD JUST DISPENSE WITH THE ANIMAL HAIR.

SO THAT'S HOW THIS CAME ABOUT. IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING THING, BUT IT WAS.

KUDOS TO CORY FOR FINDING THIS AND FINDING THIS CONNECTION.

THEN IN LOOKING AT THAT. SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF THE CHANGE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS ALSO WITH THE DEFINITION.

THEN HE WAS LOOKING AT THE DEFINITION OF PERSONAL SERVICE, AND THAT THIS THEN COULD BE IN MORE COMMERCIAL USES AND THE COMMERCIAL ZONE.

AND IN FACT PERSONAL SERVICES ARE ALLOWED THROUGHOUT ANY COMMERCIAL ZONE.

SO HE LOOKED AT THAT AND IN THE AND THEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS JUST INTERNALLY AS STAFF, AND WE REALIZED THINGS LIKE A GYMNASIUM OR HEALTH CENTER WAS NOT DEFINED UNDER PERSONAL SERVICE.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S ADDED IN THERE. AND YEAH, IT WAS JUST ANIMAL.

YEAH. AND HEALTH SERVICES. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS THE FIRST PART OF THE REQUEST IS, IS JUST TO MAKE IT SO THAT WE CAN BE WHEN BUSINESSES REQUEST THESE THINGS, IT'S NOT SO RESTRICTIVE ON THE ANIMAL SIDE AND ALSO WITH GYMNASIUMS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO IN AND LOOK AT THAT DEFINITION AND FIGURE OUT, DOES IT GO HERE OR THERE? IT JUST MAKES IT A LOT EASIER TO PROLIFERATE IT IN THE COMMERCIAL ZONES.

SO JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER ON ON THE DEVELOPER OR THE I SHOULD SAY IT'S ACTUALLY USUALLY A BUSINESS OWNER THAT TYPICALLY IS COMING UP.

THE SECOND PART IS IN REGARDS TO LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND AND TRASH ENCLOSURES.

THIS DISCUSSION CAME ABOUT ACTUALLY THROUGH WE'VE REVAMPED OUR PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING STARTING IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND ONE TOPIC KEPT COMING UP OF EXPLANATION FROM SANITATION THROUGH JORDAN.

AND SO WHENEVER WE WOULD TALK ABOUT ENCLOSURES, INITIALLY WHAT WE HAD WAS AND I'M TALKING THE INDUSTRIAL TRASH ENCLOSURES, THE BIG ONES THAT IT WAS REQUIRED TO HAVE A DOOR.

SO THEN WHEN IN PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING WHEN WE WOULD HAVE A USE THAT WOULD COME JORDAN WOULD BRING UP.

WELL, IF YOU HAVE A DOOR ON IT, REALIZE YOU HAVE TO ON TRASH DAY.

IF IT'S MONDAY, YOU HAVE TO GO OUT, OPEN THE DOOR AND REVEAL THE DUMPSTER OUT FOR OUR TRASH TRUCKS.

AND WE JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS TOO BURDENSOME. SO SO WE LOOKED AT IT IN OUR ZONING CODE, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS CHANGE IS IT MODIFIES A COUPLE OF THINGS, BASICALLY, THAT IT CAN BE ENCLOSED ON THREE SIDES.

IF THE INSTEAD OF REQUIRING THE DOOR ON A TRASH ENCLOSURE, IF THE BUSINESS OWNER CHOOSES NOT TO DO THAT, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. IN FACT, IT'S EASIER FOR OUR TRASH TRUCK.

BUT IF THEY WANTED TO PUT A DOOR ON IT, THEY STILL HAVE THAT OPTION.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THIS CAME ABOUT. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT EASIER ON SANITATION.

AND ALSO MAKE IT MUCH CLEARER ON THE DEVELOPER ABOUT WHAT'S REQUIRED.

SO COULD YOU, COULD YOU DISCUSS WHERE THOSE THREE SIDED ENCLOSURES CAN BE LOCATED ON THE LOT? YES, ACCORDING TO THE NEW CODE. THEN YOU COULDN'T RELOCATE IT IN THE FRONT SETBACK BASICALLY OF THE BUILDING.

SO IT CAN BE ON THE SIDES AND THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT CAN'T BE IN THE FRONT.

AND THAT WAS PRETTY STANDARD THAT WE FOUND IN TERMS OF LANGUAGE.

THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF THE MORE PERSONALLY SATISFYING MOTIONS I'LL EVER MAKE.

FOR A DECADE AT BARNES AND NOBLE, I ONCE A WEEK HAD TO ROLL TWO LARGE YELLOW DUMPSTERS 20FT FORWARD.

SO THE GARBAGE TRUCK, BECAUSE WE HAD DOORS ON THE FRONT OF THIS ONE'S REALLY AN ACCREDITATION TO STAFF IS JUST THROUGH COLLABORATION AND DISCUSSION THAT WE REALIZED THIS IS A BURDEN THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE.

SO OKAY. OKAY. AND I THINK IT STILL HAS THE VISUAL THE VISUAL APPEAL.

IT STILL IT HAS TO BE IN ENCLOSED. IT'S JUST THAT THE DOORS THEMSELVES.

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LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE ONE MORE TOPIC. SO WHAT ZONES WOULD THIS APPLY TO.

JUST INDUSTRIAL YOU MENTIONED. BUT IT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL TO OR FOR TRASH ENCLOSURES.

IT'S IT'S BASICALLY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.

YEAH. THIS IS USUALLY POINTED OUT ON THE SITE PLAN IS WHERE WE USUALLY SEE THIS.

OKAY. YEAH. SO IT COULD APPLY IN AN R3A BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE COMMERCIAL IN R3 A THAT'S TRUE.

ACTUALLY THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IT COULD BE A RESIDENTIAL IF IT'S A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT HAS A TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING FROM SANITATION.

THAT'S TRUE. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. I WOULDN'T THEN.

ARE YOU OKAY, MAYOR? JUST A CLARIFICATION FIRST.

THE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL IS FOR THE TRASH ENCLOSURES, BUT THE GROOMING THE PHYSICAL FITNESS.

THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL AREAS. COMMERCIAL, CORRECT? THANK YOU. I THINK WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION.

I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 11 2-6 STANDARDS FOR ALLOWED LAND USES AND 11 DASH 7-1.

DEFINITIONS RELATED TO PET GROOMING AND 11 DASH FOUR FOR LANDSCAPING BUFFERS AND SCREENING UNDER A SUSPENSION OF THE RULES REQUIRING THREE COMPLETE AND SEPARATE READINGS, AND REQUEST THAT IT BE READ BY TITLE AND PUBLISHED BY. SUMMARY.

SECOND. VERY GOOD. CITY CLERK, WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION.

I MEAN, SORRY, A VOTE. LARSON. YES. BRADFORD.

I BURTENSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FREEMAN. YES.

FRANCIS I MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. AND WE'LL ASK YOU TO READ THIS BY TITLE.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, IDAHO, A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION OF THE STATE OF IDAHO, AMENDING TITLE 11, COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE, SECTION 11, DASH TWO SIX STANDARDS FOR ALLOWED LAND USES.

SECTION 11 FOUR DASH FOR LANDSCAPING, BUFFERS AND SCREENING.

AND SECTION 11 DASH SEVEN ONE DEFINITIONS, PUBLICATION BY SUMMARY AND ESTABLISHING EFFECTIVE DATE AND MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A PERSONAL POINT, PLEASE. I WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL ON THIS TOPIC.

YEAH, IT WAS YOURS. WELL, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN LOOKING FOR AND HOPING FOR IS WHERE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS RESPONSIVE TO EVEN ONE PERSON'S THOUGHT THAT LEADS TO A NIMBLENESS PROBLEM SOLVING.

THAT'S HOW WE GET THE GROOMING THING IN HERE IS.

SOMETIMES I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, YOUR CITY DOESN'T LISTEN.

THAT'S NOT TRUE. THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. VERY GOOD POINT.

I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE THE ADDITIONAL POINT THAT THIS IS HOW LAWS WORK.

THEY EVOLVE. THEY ARE IMPROVED UPON. THEY ARE REFINED OVER TIME.

UNTIL. UNTIL WE THROW THEM OUT AND START OVER AGAIN WITH A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY.

BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

AND YES, WE FIND PROBLEMS BECAUSE WE CAN'T QUITE GET THE LANGUAGE PERFECT EVERY TIME.

THE FIRST TIME. AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL.

THAT'S NOT A FAILING. THAT'S JUST HOW IT HOW IT ROLLS.

AND SO I'M PLEASED THAT WE ARE REFINING OUR CODE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK THAT STAFF PUT INTO THIS.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[6. Announcements]

NEXT MONTH, THIS COMING MONDAY IS COLUMBUS DAY, THAT CITY HOLIDAY ON THE CALENDAR, SO CITY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED.

IT'S A THREE DAY WEEKEND FOR MOST CITY EMPLOYEES.

NOT ALL BECAUSE WE HAVE FIRST RESPONDERS, OTHERS WHO WORK IMPORTANT JOBS THAT DON'T GET TO.

THREE DAY WEEKENDS. WE I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN OCTOBER.

I'M NOT GOING TO HIGHLIGHT ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THEM ALL MEMORIZED. BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE OUR NEXT WORK SESSION ON THE 20TH IN THIS ROOM.

THEN WE'LL HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING LIKE THIS ONE ON THE 23RD IN THE EVENING.

TWO DAYS LATER THAT SATURDAY, THE 25TH THERE IS THE REAL HEROES.

TRICK OR TREAT. THAT IS A POPULAR EVENT THAT EVER SINCE IT'S BEEN INTRODUCED, I THINK WE'RE ABOUT 7 OR 8 YEARS OUT ON THAT ONE AND SEVEN YEARS, BUT IT'S PUT ON BY THE FIRST RESPONDERS IN MONROE COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT, EMS, SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. AND SO IT'S A VERY SAFE PLACE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO TRICK OR TREAT.

IT'S TYPICALLY HELD ALONG MEMORIAL DRIVE. ARE WE THERE THIS TIME? ARE WE IN FREEMAN PARK OR SOMEWHERE ELSE? MEMORIAL DRIVE.

WE'RE ON MEMORIAL. FANTASTIC. THERE ARE OTHER EVENTS GOING ON ALL AROUND TOWN.

LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE THOSE MEMORIZED, BUT I WANTED TO POINT THAT ONE OUT. THAT'S COMING UP IN TWO WEEKS AND TWO DAYS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO MAKE THAT ARE OF COMMUNITY INTEREST OR INTEREST TO EACH OTHER? OKAY. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN TO JUST REAL QUICK.

I BELIEVE THE WATER TOWER BLOCK PARTIES TOMORROW, IS THAT CORRECT?

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SINCE I IMAGINE A LOT OF YOU WILL BE THERE JUST AGAIN, REMEMBER, NO PUBLIC MEETINGS.

SO NO DELIBERATING ABOUT THINGS. IF THERE'S MORE THAN THREE OF YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. SO JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT WORK WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS GROUP IS REALLY GOOD AT? BEING ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME AND FOCUS ON THE FUN WHEN THEY'RE HAVING A GOOD. YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE HOW EASY IT IS. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. BUT TO HAVE FUN. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO POINT OUT THAT THAT WAS A GROSS OVERSIGHT.

MARGARET, I APOLOGIZE. THE WATER TOWER BLOCK PARTY TOMORROW.

THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY A CHANCE TO COME TOGETHER.

AND IT'S OUR FAREWELL PARTY TO THE EXISTING WATER TOWER.

AND MAYBE OUR BRING IN THE NEW PARTY FOR THE NEW WATER TOWER.

WE DON'T HAVE A DEMOLITION DATE ESTABLISHED YET FOR THE OLD ONE, BUT IT WILL HAPPEN.

WE THINK. WE THINK UNLESS WE END UP WITH PROBLEMS WITH BIDDERS.

BUT WE THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR. ALTHOUGH THAT MAY HAVE SHIFTED.

YEAH, WE'RE CROSSING OUR FINGERS. BUT ANYHOW IT WILL BE FROM 5 TO 9 P.M..

THERE'S KIND OF A SURPRISE FOR AT THE END BETWEEN 845 AND 9 901 WE'LL HAVE SOME DAZZLING LIGHT EFFECTS, I'LL SAY. AND BUT BETWEEN 5 AND 9 OR 845 WE HAVE DJ WE'LL HAVE MUSIC.

THE FARMERS MARKET VENDORS WILL BE SETTING UP EARLY, SO THEY'LL BE THERE FRIDAY NIGHT AS WELL AS SATURDAY MORNING.

AND THE THEME IS BEING THE THE CELEBRATION FOR THE WATERTOWER IS THE RED, WHITE AND BLUE KIND OF THEME.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OF THAT PLAYING OUT IN SOME OF THE GOODS THAT THE VENDORS HAVE TO SELL.

THE FOOD TRUCKS WILL BE THERE. SO MAKE IT A DINNER NIGHT OUT.

JUST I THINK, WEAR A JACKET. I THINK THAT'S THE RULE.

SO WITH THAT, I APOLOGIZE AGAIN. I'M GOING TO TURN.

DO YOU REMEMBER IN THE OLDEN DAYS WHEN WHENEVER PRESIDENTS WOULD HAVE PRESS CONFERENCES, THERE WAS A WOMAN FROM THE I THINK IT WAS THE NEW YORK. NEW YORK. WHAT WAS HER NAME, ANYWAY? THERE WAS A WOMAN WHO ALWAYS GOT CALLED ON FIRST, AND MAYBE SHE WAS FROM THE WALL STREET.

KNOW, WASHINGTON POST, NEW YORK TIMES. WHAT WAS HER NAME? YEAH. ANYWAY PRESIDENTS, NO MATTER WHO THE PRESIDENT WAS.

REPUBLICAN. LIKE A DEMOCRAT. BUT OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL YEARS, SOMEHOW THE TRADITION WAS ESTABLISHED.

SHE GOT THE FIRST QUESTION. WELL, WE HAVE A SIMILAR CORNY LITTLE TRADITION, AND THAT IS THAT WHENEVER WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, WE ALWAYS RELY ON COUNCILOR FRANCIS TO MAKE THE MOTION.

I THINK THE MAN CAN PROBABLY RECITE THESE PHRASES IN HIS SLEEP.

AND SO COUNCILOR FRANCIS, MAY WE TURN TO YOU FOR THIS?

[7. Executive Session]

SECOND, WE HAVE A SECOND. I WILL JUST CLARIFY BEFORE THE VOTE IS TAKEN.

THE STATES THAT COUNCIL MAY NOT MAKE DECISIONS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, SO THAT WE ARE THERE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND TO CONSIDER INFORMATION.

NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN. THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IN A PUBLIC MEETING PURSUANT TO BEING NOTICED ON A PUBLIC AGENDA.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THIS ROOM, GO INTO ANOTHER ROOM, HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND THEN EVERYBODY WILL JUST GO.

WE'LL ADJOURN FROM THERE. SO WITH THAT CITY CLERK, WILL YOU CONDUCT A VOTE? LARSON. YES. FRANCIS I. BRADFORD. AYE. DINGMAN.

YES. BURTENSHAW. YES. FREEMAN. YES. MOTION CARRIES.

VERY GOOD. WE ARE ADJOURNED FROM THIS MEETING, OR WE'RE NO RECESS FOR THIS MEETING.

WHEN WE'RE ADJOURNED FROM THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING INTO NOW AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHICH IS A WHOLE NEW BALL GAME. I WILL SAY THAT COUNCIL, YOU'VE BEEN SITTING FOR TWO HOURS AND 20 MINUTES, SO WE'RE GOING TO NOT START FOR AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK. THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT. DID IT CHANGE IN 20 YEARS?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.