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          AND GET STARTED. IT IS NOW 7:00. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH OUR OCTOBER 7TH, 2025 PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING. I AM COMMISSIONER EILER, THE COMMISSIONER OGDEN. 
          HE NORMALLY RUNS THE SHOW, BUT HE'S GOING TODAY. SO IT IS ME. SO IF I'M A LITTLE SLOW, I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE ON THOSE THINGS. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET'S GET 
          [Minutes:  September 02, 2025]
STARTED WITH THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 2ND, 2025. 
          DID EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE? THERE WE ALL GOOD. THEY ALL LOOK GOOD. OR ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS? NO. OKAY, WELL, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. OKAY, PERFECT. PERFECT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? PERFECT. WE'LL JUST DO A. SO ALL THOSE. SORRY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. ANY NAYS? OKAY. YOU GUYS HAVE. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START OUR FIRST 
          [1. PUD25-002: PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT for Willows Place Townhomes. Lot 7,  and a portion of Lots 4 & 6, Block 5, New Sweden Estates Division No. 3. Located north  of the Highland Canal, east of Blue Bird Lane, south of Plommon Street, and west of S Bellin  Road. ¹ ]
PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING. IT IS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR WILLOWS PLACE TOWNHOMES LOT SEVEN AND A PORTION OF LOTS FOUR AND SIX. DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT. FOR THAT. WHAT ARE YOU READY FOR? PRESENTATION. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? YEAH. YEP. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. MY NAME IS BRAD KRAMER. WITH RESPECT TO PLANNING AND CONSULTING. ADDRESS OF 1742 AVALON IN IDAHO FALLS. I'M ACTUALLY HERE WITH STEVE HEATH FROM MOUNTAIN WEST ENGINEERING AS WELL. BOTH REPRESENTING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FOR THE DEVELOPER. STEVE'S COMPANY DOES THE ENGINEERING LAYOUT DRAFTING. I'M JUST THE PLANNER, BUT I'M GOING TO WALK THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION WITH YOU TONIGHT. OUR OUR PURPOSE IS TO WALK THROUGH HOW WE BELIEVE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY'S ZONING ORDINANCE. I ALSO WANT TO WALK THROUGH CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED DURING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AS WELL AS LETTERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED THAT WE RECEIVED COPIES OF EARLIER TODAY. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FULLY RESEARCH ALL OF THOSE. BUT I DID MY BEST. I'LL TRY MY BEST TO TO WALK THROUGH THOSE. SO AS I GO THROUGH THE SLIDES TONIGHT, YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE VOLUME UP. IT'S PROBABLY JUST MEETINGS TO SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          HOW ABOUT THAT? OKAY I THINK I GET THAT AT EVERY MEETING I ATTEND. SO I KNOW I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AVOIDING THE MIC. OKAY, SO THIS FIRST SLIDE IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH. YOU CAN SEE THE SLIDE. EXCUSE ME. THE SITE OUTLINED IN RED HERE IN THE CENTER OF THE SLIDE IS SOUTH AND ADJACENT TO COLOMA STREET. IT'S WEST OF ELM ROAD, EAST OF OLD BUTTE ROAD. IF IT WERE EXTENDED. SO YOU CAN KIND OF IMAGINE THAT ROAD JUST CONTINUING FURTHER SOUTH AND THEN NORTH OF 17 SOUTH, YOU CAN SEE THE LAND USES IN THE AREA. A LOT OF SINGLE UNIT DETACHED HOMES, ESPECIALLY TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH AND EAST. IT'S ALSO A MIX OF TWIN HOMES, TOWNHOMES, APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT YOU HAVE, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT YOU SEE HERE IN THIS PHOTO IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE SITE. ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO STAY ON BACK. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT TO THE EAST. THERE'S A CHURCH TO THE NORTH. THERE'S ALSO A CHURCH, AND SOUTH OF THE SITE IS WEST SIDE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. LOOKING CLOSER AT THE PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY TO BLUEBIRD LANE JUST TO THE WEST, WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF OUR ATTENDEES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. THEY LIVE ADJACENT TO THE TO THE PROJECT SITE. I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT MEETING LATER, BUT JUST I WOULD EXPRESS APPRECIATION FOR THEIR ATTENDANCE, THEIR FEEDBACK. IT'S HELPFUL TO THINK THROUGH A COUPLE OF ISSUES RELATED TO THE PROJECT. WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE STATE'S DIVISION OF THE THREE. 
          THIS PROJECT SITE IS WITHIN THIS ORIGINAL PLAT, RUNNING ESSENTIALLY FROM THE CENTER OF WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN. THE PLAT MAP TO THE SOUTH. YOU SEE, ORIGINALLY THERE WAS SOME LARGE 
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LOTS ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH ENDS OF THIS PARTICULAR SMALLER LOTS, LATELY, AND FOR HOUSING, AND I'LL EXPLAIN LATER WHY I INSERTED THIS PLAT. THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS RAISED IN THE LETTERS, BUT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT. AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THE FEATURES. NOW, THIS SLIDE HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS SHOWS THE AREA AS SUBURBAN, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT DESIGNATION TO THE EAST, WEST AND SOUTH. THERE'S ALSO SOME SUBURBAN TO THE NORTH AS WELL AS GENERAL URBAN FURTHER NORTH. 
          THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS OF TORONTO WITH BROAD BRUSH STROKES AND URBAN URBAN IS CLOSE. BUT WE REVIEWED THIS AND I'VE PRESENTED THIS PRESENTATION CONSISTENT WITH THE SUBURBAN DESIGNATION. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD HAVE YOU SPEAK CLOSER TO THE. OH, SORRY. I'M SORRY, I KNOW I HAVE A PROBLEM. I'M SO SORRY, I DRIFT. I SHOULD PROBABLY JUST HOLD IT, BUT YEAH, JUST KEEP DOING THAT TO ME. IT'LL HAPPEN AGAIN. THE PLAN. THE PLAN IS MUCH MORE THAN THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, WE'LL JUST SHOW SOME OF THE APPLICABLE POLICIES FROM THE PLAN. I'M SORRY, YOU PROBABLY CAN'T READ THAT REAL WELL, BUT THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT DESCRIBES WHAT THE SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENT IS. SO WHAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED THERE FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T ABLE TO READ IT, WHICH INCLUDES ME FROM HERE, IT SAYS THESE AREAS CONTAIN VARIOUS HOUSING TYPES, GENERALLY INCLUDING DETACHED AND DETACHED SINGLE UNIT DWELLINGS, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES, AND FOURPLEX UNITS. AT A HOUSE SCALE, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SHOULD INCLUDE A MIX OF HOUSING TYPES, PRICE POINTS AND SIZES, AND SHOULD NOT BE EXCLUSIVELY DETACHED SINGLE DWELLING UNITS. SO THIS PROJECT IS CERTAINLY CONSISTENT WITH THAT POLICY STATEMENT FROM THE PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES IS BREAKS THE CITY INTO MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS PROJECT IS IS WITHIN AREA THREE OR NEIGHBORHOOD THREE. AS I WAS REVIEWING THAT SECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I FOUND THIS GRAPHIC, I THINK, INTERESTING AND IMPORTANT FOR FOR THE PROJECT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THIS IS A GRAPH THAT SHOWS THE HOUSEHOLD SIZES AT THE TIME OF THE WRITING OF THE PLAN. WHAT YOU SEE IN THE IN THE DARK BLUE AND LIGHT BLUE REPRESENT HOUSEHOLDS OF 1 OR 2 PEOPLE. AND WITHIN THIS AREA THAT REPRESENTS OVER 60% OF HOUSEHOLDS. AND SO THE REASON I THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT IS, AS WE THINK ABOUT HOUSEHOLD SIZE, THAT THAT CAME UP, I THINK AS SOME OF THE CONCERN, MAYBE THESE ARE TOO SMALL WHEN YOUR HOUSEHOLD SIZES ARE 1 OR 2 PEOPLE. PREDOMINANTLY THERE IS A MARKET FOR SMALLER HOUSEHOLDS, HOUSEHOLD SIZES, HOUSE SIZES WITH, YOU KNOW, 2 TO 3 BEDROOMS, WHICH IS WHAT THESE ARE NOT EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR A 4 OR 5 BEDROOM HOME. THERE WERE ALSO SOME POLICY STATEMENTS SPECIFIC TO HOUSING GOALS WITHIN AREA THREE AND NEIGHBORHOOD THREE ON THE TOP, DEALING WITH AFFORDABILITY AND DIVERSIFYING HOUSING STOCK. THE PLAN SAYS THAT THE CITY SHOULD ALLOW HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING ON THE PERIMETER OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEAR MAJOR INTERSECTIONS THERE IN THE BOTTOM RELATED TO NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, WHICH DID COME UP IN SEVERAL OF THE LETTERS THAT I WAS ABLE TO READ, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A FOCUS ON INFILL DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN SPRAWL TO REDUCE THE CONSUMPTION OF AGRICULTURAL LAND. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ADD IS THAT JUST SO HAPPENS LAST WEEK I WAS AT A IDAHO PLANNING ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE AND WENT TO A SESSION REGARDING AGRICULTURAL LANDS AND THE COUNTY PLANNERS MADE A STATEMENT THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THE CITY CAN DO TO PROMOTE AGRICULTURE, TO PROMOTE THE PRESERVATION OF AG LANDS, IS TO PROMOTE INFILL DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THIS IS CERTAINLY WITHIN THAT CATEGORY. 
          SO BASED ON THOSE POLICIES, I DID GO BACK TO THE AERIAL PHOTO TO SORT OF DEMONSTRATE HOW THIS PROJECT NOT ONLY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SUBURBAN AREA, BUT ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THOSE HOUSING GOALS. SO THE RED CIRCLE OR EXCUSE ME, THE YELLOW CIRCLE THAT YOU SEE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS MAP IS THE INTERSECTION OF PENN, CAREY AND BELL AND ROAD. PANCARI, OF COURSE, IS AN ARTERIAL. BELLAND IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR. SO THIS IS A WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A MAJOR INTERSECTION AND IS INTENDED TO CARRY TRAFFIC TO THE NEARBY ARTERIALS. AND THIS PROJECT IS WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THAT INTERSECTION. I'VE ALSO DRAWN THE YELLOW LINE, WHICH IS WHERE I WOULD DESCRIBE AS THE PERIMETER OF THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND OR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IF I GO BACK TO SLIDE, THAT THERE AT THAT TOP LINE, ONCE AGAIN, HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, WHICH I WOULD ARGUE THIS IS NOT BY DEFINITION HIGHER HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. IT IS HIGHER THAN WHAT IS NEAR. IT IS NOT HIGH DENSITY HOUSING BY THE CITY'S DEFINITIONS, BUT IT'S ALSO LOCATED ON THE PERIMETER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHERE YOU SEE OTHER HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS BEING LOCATED. SO IN SHORT, THE PROJECT IS 
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CONSISTENT WITH NOT ONLY THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT ALSO THE POLICIES. SO IF WE MOVE TO THE THE ZONING SIDE OF THINGS, THIS IS A AN IMAGE OF THE ZONING MAP. IT'S ZONED R1 WITH. YOU CAN SEE IT'S BASICALLY A SEA OF YELLOW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA ARE ZONED FOR SINGLE UNIT ATTACHED AND DETACHED DWELLINGS. THESE ARE SINGLE. WE'RE PROPOSING SINGLE UNIT ATTACHED. I'LL GO AGAIN. I KNOW YOU CAN'T READ THIS, BUT AGAIN, IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE THE LETTERS AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS, I INSERTED THE LANGUAGE FROM THE CITY'S CODE IN REGARDS TO THE PURPOSE OF PLANNING OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS A LIST OF WHAT THOSE ARE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ THESE, BUT THEY ESSENTIALLY IF YOU READ IF YOU READ ALL OF THESE, YOU'LL NOTICE THE WORD FLEXIBILITY A LOT IN HERE. PLANNING DEVELOPMENTS CAN BE USED IN A COUPLE OF WAYS. ONE IS FOR MASTER PLANNED COMMUNITIES THAT COVER LARGE AREAS NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE STANDARDS. MAYBE WE WANT TO DO THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. THERE ARE ALSO A GREAT TOOL FOR LOTS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP, THAT HAVE AN ODD SHAPE OR SIZE, THAT PROVIDES SOME FLEXIBILITY IN MAKING SURE THAT THE STANDARDS CAN BE ADJUSTED SO THAT THE LOT IS DEVELOPABLE. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL ALSO SEE IN THESE PURPOSES IS TO PROMOTE THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT OF LOTS AGAIN, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE PROJECT IS. OKAY, SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION. AND WHAT I JUST HIGHLIGHT THIS IS A PROPOSED TO BE 14 UNITS THERE ARE ATTACHED. 
          MOST OF THEM ARE THREE UNITS ATTACHED. THE VERY SOUTHERN UNIT IS TWO UNITS ATTACHED A TOTAL OF 14. THE PRIMARY REASON FOR REQUESTING THE PLANNING UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE NARROWNESS OF THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE LOT. THERE WASN'T SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR A FULL PUBLIC STREET. ALL SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED OR DETACHED UNITS HAVE TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON AND ACCESS TO A PUBLIC STREET. THERE SIMPLY WASN'T SUFFICIENT WIDTH. I SUPPOSE WE COULD HAVE REDUCED SOME OF THE REAR YARDS TO CREATE THAT ADDITIONAL WIDTH, BUT IT WAS DESIRED THE DEVELOPER TO MAINTAIN THE SAME REAR YARD THAT ANY OTHER HOME WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN IN THE R-1 ZONE. SO ONE THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT IT DOES MAINTAIN A 25 FOOT REAR YARD, WHICH IS WHAT'S PERMITTED BY ANY SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED OR DETACHED HOME ZONE. THESE UNITS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TWO STORIES. AGAIN, THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE R1 ZONE, REGARDLESS OF PLENTY OF DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE TWO AMENITIES PROPOSED WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT ONLY REQUIRES ONE ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THE C A PATHWAY, THE BASKETBALL COURT. THERE'S ALSO A PLAYGROUND AREA. THE REQUIRES 25% GREEN SPACE. THIS PROVIDES RIGHT AT 2520 5.1% GREEN SPACE. THE THE. EACH UNIT PROVIDES TWO PARKING SPACES, ONE IN THE GARAGE, ONE IN THE DRIVEWAY. THERE'S ALSO A PARKING LOT ON THE EAST, THE SOUTHEAST SIDE NEXT TO THE STORM POND. WHEN YOU TOTAL ALL THE PARKING STALLS TOGETHER, THE THE PROJECT ONLY REQUIRES 28 STALLS. THERE ARE OVER 40 STALLS HERE, SO. QUITE A FEW MORE THAN WOULD BE REQUIRED BY THE PUD. AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD POINT OUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE REAR YARD, TO WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED HERE, IS TO PUT A ROW OF EVERGREEN TREES AS A BUFFER. WE UNDERSTAND THAT NOT EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A TWO STORY BUILDING NEXT TO THEM OR NEAR THEM. AND SO, ALTHOUGH NOT REQUIRED BY THE PUD, THOSE TREES ARE INTENDED TO BE PLANTED. I'LL ADDRESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT THE CITY'S UTILITY EASEMENT IN THAT AREA HERE. IN ANOTHER SLIDE OR TWO, ONE OF THE CORRECTIONS THAT I WOULD MAKE, JUST TO THE WORDING OF THE STAFF REPORT, I THINK I KNOW WHAT IT MEANT, BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAGE THAT HAS THE TABLE OF REQUIREMENTS FOR A PD WHEN IT COMES TO DENSITY, DENSITY IS IN AN R1 ZONE ARE ALLOWED TO BE INCLUDED FOR GROSS ACRE. IN A NORMAL R1 ZONE IT'S SIX. WHAT I THINK IS THAT IS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING 14 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS NOT CORRECT. WE'RE OVER 14 UNITS. WE'RE AT 7.7 UNITS PER ACRE. SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE MAXIMUM USE FOR GROSS ACRE THAT PD IN THE URBAN ZONE ALLOWS. AGAIN, THIS IS MORE FOR THE RECORD THAN ANYTHING, BUT WE DID A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND I KNOW AGAIN THIS IS NOT LEGIBLE FROM FOR THE AUDIENCE. IT IT WILL BECOME PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. SAME INFORMATION IS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT IN A WRITEUP THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE. ONE OF THE MAIN 
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CONCERNS WE HEARD WAS THAT ADJACENT NEIGHBORS HAD USED THIS LOT TO ACCESS THE REAR YARDS, AND IF THE CURRENT PLAN MOVES FORWARD, THEY WILL NO LONGER HAVE THAT ACCESS. AND WE DID DISCUSS THAT CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE LAYOUT COULD BE FLIPPED. SO THE ACCESS ROAD COULD BE UP AGAINST THOSE HOMES, ALTHOUGH MAYBE TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE. DID DETERMINE THAT IT CREATED OTHER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FROM THAT REQUEST. AND SO WE HAVE THIS TERM DECIDED TO LEAVE IT AS CURRENTLY LAID OUT. AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, THERE WERE ALSO CONCERNS RAISED. AGAIN, I'LL ADDRESS THESE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL REGARDING BUILDING HEIGHTS PROPERTY VALUES AS A REQUEST TO BUILD SINGLE STORY UNITS INSTEAD OF TWO STORY. 
          THAT WOULD REQUIRE PUTTING LIVING SPACE IF WE WANTED TO MAINTAIN THE SAME AMOUNT OF LIVING SPACE AS WE'RE CURRENTLY PROVIDING. TO PUT SOME OF THAT UNDERNEATH A GARAGE FOR REQUIRING ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS. THESE ARE INTENDED UNITS FOR SALE AT A PRICE POINT, THAT IS MORE AFFORDABLE, SO WE DON'T INTEND TO DO SINGLE STORY. TWO STORIES IS ALLOWED AGAIN BY RIGHT. SO HOPEFULLY YOU'VE READ THIS INFORMATION IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. WHILE I'M ON THIS SLIDE I ALSO WANT TO JUST COVER SOME NOTES. AND AGAIN THIS THIS WILL PROBABLY TAKE A MINUTE BECAUSE WE JUST RECEIVED SOME OF THESE LETTERS THIS MORNING WHILE WE RECEIVED ALL OF THEM THIS MORNING. BUT I DO WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS RAISED IN THOSE LETTERS. AND I WOULD I WOULD POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, AS A PLANNER, CERTAINLY WELCOME AND APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BOTH AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THE LETTERS WHICH YOU'LL HEAR TONIGHT. I MAY NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING TO BE SAID OR THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, BUT I DO BELIEVE IN THE IN THE VALUE OF PUBLIC INPUT THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR NEIGHBORS TO BE INVOLVED. SO ALTHOUGH WE MIGHT BE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I DO APPRECIATE THE THE INTEREST SHOWN HERE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST LET EVERYBODY THAT'S SUBMITTED LETTERS KNOW THAT I DID READ EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. I MADE NOTES ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE RAISED. I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE THEM HERE JUST TO ADDRESS THEM HEAD ON, SO THAT WE DON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME IN REBUTTAL LATER ON. I'M SORRY, THIS PART. I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN, SO I'VE ALREADY SORT OF COVERED THIS, BUT THE POD SIZE. THERE WAS A CONCERN RAISED THAT PUDS ARE REQUIRED TO BE A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES. THAT IS TRUE UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS THAT THE SITE IS DEVELOPING OR REDEVELOPING, AND THAT IT PROVIDES OR THAT IT PROVIDES PUBLIC AMENITY. IN THIS CASE, THE SITE IS OR WILL BE REDEVELOPED IF APPROVED. IT ALSO PROVIDES, AS I HAVE ALREADY NOTED, THE TWO AMENITIES AS REQUIRED BY THE PD. THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT COMPATIBILITY WITH THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, SO ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS THAT THIS TYPE OF HOUSING TOWNHOMES, YOU CAN CALL THEM TOWNHOMES, YOU CALL THEM SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED WHEN THEY ARE ON PLATTED LOTS AS THESE WILL BE. THEY ARE CONSIDERED BY ZONING AND BUILDING CODES AS SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. THEY ARE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS. THEY'RE NOT DETACHED. 
          THESE ARE ALSO NO TALLER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNIT. COULD BE IF THIS WERE AN R1 ZONE WITHOUT A PD, THEY'RE NO CLOSER TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY THAN THE DETACHED UNIT COULD BE. SO IF YOU TAKE AND IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE PUD, I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN FOR SOME OF THESE COMMENTS YOU WOULD LOSE. TO MEET THAT SIX UNITS PER ACRE, YOU WOULD LOSE A TOTAL OF THREE UNITS. SO THIS ISN'T THAT FAR ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT AN R-1 ZONE WOULD ALLOW WITHOUT THE PUD. AND SO IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME TO TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE R1 ZONE. YES, IT IS A DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPE THAN THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOUR PLAN CALLS FOR. AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT CALLS FOR. AND IN THE LOCATION IT CALLS FOR IT. THERE WAS SOME CONCERN RAISED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIALLY BLOCKING CITY EASEMENTS. I BELIEVE THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO THE ELECTRICAL EASEMENT ON THE WEST SIDE. I WOULD SIMPLY POINT OUT THAT WE CAN'T BLOCK AN EASEMENT. SO IF THOSE TREES ARE IN THE WAY, IF THAT'S THE CONCERN AND POWER DOES NOT ALLOW THOSE OR DOES NOT ALLOW THAT TYPE OF TREE, THAT OF COURSE WE WILL HAVE TO CHOOSE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T BLOCK OR DISRUPT THAT EASEMENT AS NORMAL WITH THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS. THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENT ABOUT TRAFFIC WHEN YOU READ TRAFFIC STUDIES, WHAT WHAT CITIES AND COUNTIES TYPICALLY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TYPICALLY CARE ABOUT IS HOW MANY TRIPS ARE HAPPENING IN THE PM PEAK HOUR. THAT'S THE BUSIEST TIME OF DAY, YOU KNOW, CLASSIC 5:00 TRAFFIC. THE AND SINGLE FAMILY, WHETHER IT'S ATTACHED OR DETACHED, GENERALLY PRODUCES ON AVERAGE ONE TRIP PER UNIT IN THE PEAK HOUR. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IF THE 
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BUSIEST TIME OF THE DAY, THIS THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD GENERATE 14 TRIPS IN AN HOUR, WHICH COMES OUT TO ABOUT ONE CAR EVERY FOUR MINUTES. AND THAT'S THE BUSIEST PART OF THE DAY. 
          I'D ALSO POINT OUT THAT BELEN ROAD IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR. IT IS MEANT TO CARRY TRAFFIC TO THE ARTERIALS TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS. THERE WAS SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE DESIGN THERE. SO ONE THING THAT I DON'T THINK I POINTED OUT WHEN I WAS GOING OVER THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN'T SEE IT REAL WELL ON THIS SLIDE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE COURT THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME RED LINES KIND OF CUTTING ACROSS THAT THAT IS THE FIRE TURNAROUND. SO THIS THIS COURT IS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT A FIRE TRUCK AS IT COMES IN AND TURNS TO THE EAST. 
          IT CAN BACK OUT AND THEN HEAD OUT STRAIGHT AGAIN. IF THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT INDICATES IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE WILL CERTAINLY CHANGE THAT. THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF COMMENTARY, I THINK, IN THE MEETING AND IN THE LETTERS ABOUT ADVERSE POSSESSION. AND I THINK THAT'S AGAIN IN REFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE ACCESSED THEIR REAR YARDS THROUGH THIS SITE. THAT'S, I GUESS, FIRST OF ALL, NOT THE QUESTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU. THE ONLY PLACE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT ADVERSE POSSESSION EXISTS IN A COURT OF LAW. AND I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO BE AN EXPERT ON THAT LAW. WE HAVE THE CITY'S ATTORNEY AND CITY'S FORMER ATTORNEY HERE IN THE ROOM THAT CAN SPEAK MUCH MORE INTELLIGENTLY TO THAT ISSUE THAN I CAN. MY ONLY POINT IS TO SAY THIS IS THE WRONG FORUM TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT EXISTS. AND THAT WOULD BE THE SAME IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENTS, WHICH WOULD BE THE OTHER POTENTIAL LEGAL ISSUE TO EXPLORE HERE, WHETHER OR NOT A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT EXISTS. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE DOES, BASED ON THE LITTLE BIT THAT I DO KNOW ABOUT PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENTS. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE RESOLVED IN A COURT OF LAW. I'M ALMOST DONE, I PROMISE. THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT COMMENTARY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS GOING TO PUT AN UNDUE STRAIN ON WATER AND SEWER. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THAT REGARD, THE CITY'S DEPARTMENTS WATER, SEWER, POWER, FIRE, ALL OF THEM REVIEW THESE SITE PLANS IF THERE ARE NECESSARY UPGRADES, THEN WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. THIS IS CONTINGENT UPON THOSE APPROVALS. THERE'S AN EIGHT INCH SEWER LINE IMPLEMENT. THERE'S AN 18 INCH LINE IN WEST 17TH THAT FLOWS TO A 12 INCH WATER LINE AND SIX INCH WATER LINE, AND IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. THERE'S THERE WAS SOME COMMENTARY ON PARKING CONGESTION. I'VE ALREADY NOTED THAT WE'RE PROVIDING QUITE A FEW MORE SPACES THAN REQUIRED BY CODE. THE STRAIN ON THE SCHOOLS. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH EVERYTHING SAID ABOUT STRAIN ON SCHOOLS. I HAVE KIDS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AS WELL. I LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE. WHAT I WOULD SAY FIRST OF ALL, JUST SORT OF AS AN ENDORSEMENT NEXT TIME THERE'S A POND. I HOPE EVERYONE THAT SAID THAT GETS TO PUT A VOTE YES SIGN IN THEIR YARD IF THEY WILL. WHEN I LOOKED AT ENROLLMENT NUMBERS, IT WAS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO FIND DISTRICT ENROLLMENT, BUT IN 2020, IT APPEARED THAT THE DISTRICT AS A WHOLE HAD 10,038 STUDENTS. BY 2024, THAT NUMBER HAD RISEN TO 10,121, WHICH IS JUST UNDER 100 STUDENTS SPREAD OUT ACROSS ALL THE SCHOOLS. AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD SIZE BASED ON DATA, THESE AREN'T THE TYPES OF UNITS THAT WERE IN LOTS AND LOTS OF KIDS INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE MAY BE SOME VERY SMALL ELEMENTARY TENDS TO BE, I THINK, WHERE THE DISTRICT IS EXPERIENCING THOSE CHALLENGES, IT MAY PUT ADDITIONAL STRAIN, POSSIBLY. IS THAT AN ISSUE THAT'S SOLVED BY SAYING NO TO THIS? NO. THAT IS A DISTRICT IN THE COMMUNITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE SUFFICIENT FACILITIES AS THE TOWN GROWS. STORMWATER WAS BROUGHT UP. THIS PROJECT WILL RETAIN IT ON SITE. IT WILL NOT FLOW TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT IN TERMS OF STORM INFRASTRUCTURE, POLICE, FIRE, EACH OF THESE UNITS WILL PAY AN IMPACT FEE TO THE CITY. IN FACT, THEY'LL PAY JUST A LITTLE OVER $5,000 PER UNIT. SO OVER 14 UNITS, THAT'S $75,000 THAT THE CITY WILL RECEIVE IN IMPACT FEES TO ADDRESS THESE VARIOUS ISSUES AS BEST THEY CAN. THE FINAL ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED IN THE LETTERS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS HERE HAS TO DO WITH COVENANTS, THAT THERE WAS A LETTER THAT INDICATED THAT THE COVENANTS FOR THIS EXISTING SUBDIVISION, NEW SWEDEN DIVISION THREE, HAD A STATEMENT THAT ONLY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS COULD BE BUILT ON THE LOTS. I DIDN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO REVIEW IT DEEPLY. I DID GO TO MONROE COUNTY. THE RECORDER'S WEBSITE COULD NOT FIND ANY PROTECTIVE COVENANTS OTHER THAN FOR DIVISION FOUR. THAT STATEMENT DOES EXIST IN DIVISION FOUR. THIS PROJECT IS NOT IN DIVISION FOUR, IT'S IN DIVISION THREE. 
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SO IF I SKIP BACK TO THE PLAT FOR JUST A SECOND AND THE AERIAL, I'M I WOULD LOVE I YOU KNOW, IF THOSE COVENANTS EXIST FOR DIVISION THREE, I WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM. I'M A LITTLE BIT SKEPTICAL THAT THAT MAY BE WORDED EXACTLY THAT WAY, BECAUSE OF THE LARGE LOTS THAT EXISTED IN THE ORIGINAL PLAT, WHICH NOW ARE HOME TO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CHURCH. I GO TO THE AERIAL AND ON THE EAST SIDE THE CHURCH. THE CHURCH IS PARKING LOT AND THE LITTLE WING THAT STICKS OFF TO THE WEST. SO IF THERE ARE PROBLEM WITH COVENANTS NOW OR WITH THIS PROJECT, THEY HAVE EXISTED SINCE THESE CHURCHES WERE BUILT AS WELL. SO AGAIN, WE'LL CERTAINLY REVIEW THAT IF THAT'S AN ISSUE. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I TRIED TO DO AS MUCH HOMEWORK AS I COULD WITH THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME THAT I HAD ONCE I RECEIVED THE LETTERS. SORRY, I SAID, I SAID THAT WAS THE LAST THING THERE WAS. ONE MORE. LOTS OF LOTS OF COMMENTARY ON PROPERTY VALUES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE HEAR A LOT IN THESE KINDS OF APPLICATIONS. I'VE HEARD IT IN 20 YEARS WORKING AS A PLANNER. 
          THAT GETS IT GETS STATED, BUT MOST OF THE STUDIES, NOT ALL, MOST OF THE STUDIES SHOW THAT WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, EVEN AT HIGHER DENSITIES, THERE IS NOT A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES. THE STUDIES THAT I'VE LISTED HERE THAT ARE HYPERLINKED FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO READ THEM, WILL SHOW THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT WERE NEAR, EVEN WITHIN A HALF MILE OR MORE OF OF HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING, NOT ONLY DIDN'T HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT, THEY INCREASED IN VALUE. NOW YOU CAN PROBABLY FIND STUDIES THAT SHOW SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT THE ONE THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT AT THE TOP, BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY ONE I COULD FIND IN THE WEST, AT LEAST IN THE INTERMOUNTAIN WEST, WAS SALT LAKE COUNTY. AND IT'S FAIRLY RECENT THAT A STUDY FROM 2010 TO 2019 SHOWED THAT THESE NEW APARTMENTS DID NOT REDUCE THE NEARBY SINGLE FAMILY HOME VALUES. NOW, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THESE WILL NOT REDUCE THE NEARBY VALUES? NO. THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE STEADY OVER TIME. THE REASON I STATED HERE IS THAT THE THE TREND IS NOT THAT THE PROPERTY VALUES GO DOWN. AT WORST, WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE ARE CERTAIN FOLKS THAT MAY NOT WANT TO BUY A HOME THAT'S NEXT TO TOWNHOMES. THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE. THAT'S A MARKETABILITY QUESTION, NOT PROPERTY VALUES. SO WITH THAT, I KNOW THAT WAS A LONG PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANY NEED TO TAG TEAM WITH OUR ENGINEER AS WELL. DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? NO. OKAY. 
          THEN I GUESS WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM CITY STAFF. MR. KRAMER WILL CARRY IN HIS PRESENTATION, SO I'LL MAKE MY STAFF REPORT SHORT AND SWEET AND TRY NOT TO REPEAT A BUNCH OF STUFF THAT HE ALREADY MENTIONED. HE'S ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE ZONING, THE COMP PLAN WENT OVER THE PARCEL SIZE, DIMENSIONS, EASEMENTS. SO AGAIN, I'LL TRY NOT TO REPEAT THOSE, BUT THE REQUESTED ACTION THIS EVENING IS FOR THE COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PUD OR EXCUSE ME, THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR WILLOW PLACE TOWNHOMES TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN JULY OF 1979 WITH THE INITIAL ZONING OF R1, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL. IT WAS PLATTED AS PART OF NEW SWEDEN ESTATES IN OCTOBER OF 1979, AND IN 1981 A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED FOR THE CHURCH THAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE PROPERTY, AND IT WAS APPROVED WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS APPLIED. AGAIN, JUST SOME TECHNICALITIES HERE. THE PUD APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED AUGUST 29TH OF 2025 AND AS PER CITY CODE, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WAS DONE AUGUST 25TH OF 2025. AGAIN, MR. KRAMER WENT OVER PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE I CAN ADD, OTHER THAN ONE THING THAT I DON'T BELIEVE HE MENTIONED WAS WE WOULD NEED TO APPLY A VARIANCE FOR THE FRONT SETBACK. THE FRONT SETBACK IN THE R1 IS 25FT, AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO REDUCE IT TO 20. REDUCING THE FRONT SETBACK VERSUS THE REAR SETBACK ALLOWS FOR THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE PRIVATE SPACE IN THE BACKYARD, AND IT ALSO ADDS A LITTLE MORE SPACE FOR MAINTAIN THE SPACE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS TO THE WEST AND THESE PROPOSED UNITS. 
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AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THE CNR'R WHERE R WAS BROUGHT UP, REGARDLESS IF THE PROTECTIVE COVENANTS APPLY TO THIS, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL. THE CITY CANNOT. WE CAN ONLY ENFORCE MINIMUM CODE. CNNS ARE GENERALLY MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS, SO PLEASE DON'T CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF YOUR DECISION. AND AGAIN, I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT I'LL REPEAT IT. OUR PUD REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES UNLESS IT'S INFILL OR THE OTHER STANDARDS. MR. KRAMER COMMENTED ON. AND THIS IS CONSIDERED INFILL. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF? I UNDERSTAND FROM READING THE PACKET THAT THE ONLY ITEM ON THE PLAT THAT REQUIRES THAT THIS BE PUD, RATHER THAN A STANDARD PLAT, IS THE FRONT SETBACK, IS THAT CORRECT? AND THE PRIVATE STREET? PRIVATE STREET? YES. THANK YOU. I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN REVIEWED ONE TIME BY CITY STAFF. IT'S CURRENTLY IN ITS SECOND REVIEW, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO MAJOR CONCERNS BY ANY TYPE OF UTILITY AGENCY WITH THE CITY OR ENGINEERING OR SURVEYING. HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT THEY WERE ALL PRETTY MINOR. SO. NOW I HAVE A QUESTION NOW JUST TO CONFIRM, EACH UNIT WILL BE SOLD SEPARATELY, LIKE THEY'RE ALL PLATTED SEPARATELY. 
          THEY WILL ALL EACH BE ON THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL LOT. CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO A FEW THINGS ABOUT THAT. SO WHEN YOU COME UP FOR YOUR FOR TO GIVE TESTIMONY JUST MAKE SURE TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND THEN YOUR ADDRESS. JUST FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. WE TRY TO KEEP IT AROUND FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON. BUT IF SOMEONE BEFORE YOU SAYS ABOUT THE SAME THING THAT YOU DID, YOU CAN OR WANT TO SAY YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH JUST SAY DITTO. AND THAT WILL GO DOWN IN THE PUBLIC RECORD. NOW, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO SAY OR A DIFFERENT CONCERN, WE DEFINITELY WELCOME THAT. ALSO, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ISN'T A Q AND A, IT'S MORE JUST TESTIMONY. 
          GIVE YOUR TESTIMONY OR YOUR CONCERNS. IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS THAT US OR THE STAFF MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER FOR YOU TONIGHT, YOU'RE ALWAYS MORE THAN WELCOME TO REACH OUT TO THEM DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS OR THE DEVELOPER, AND THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT IF THAT WE IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE, BUT WE WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN TONIGHT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, OH, ONE MORE THING FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. I WOULD JUST ADD, THIS IS A RECORDED HEARING. WHILE YOU MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT IS SAID WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE TESTIFYING, PLEASE DO KEEP A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DECORUM. WE WE DO APPRECIATE THAT IT STAYS SOMEWHAT QUIET, SO IT CAN BE RECORDED THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE PICKED UP. THANK YOU. YES. YEAH. TO GO ALONG WITH THAT. YEAH. LIKE NO, NO CLAPPING OR CHEERING OR BOOING OR OR WHATEVER. AS ENTERTAINING AS THAT MIGHT BE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HEAR EVERYONE AND WE NEED TO KEEP IT, KEEP IT, KEEP IT GOOD. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY TIME. I'M DAVE ROENICKE, I AM ONE OF THE. LIBERAL LIBERTY BY BLUE BIRD. MY BACKYARD DOES BORDER THE THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. SEVERAL CONCERNS. NUMBER ONE WE TALKED ABOUT EASEMENT, MISTER KRAMER. 
          THOSE TRANSFORMERS ARE, I BELIEVE, THREE OF THEM BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND PLUMBING. THE CITY HAS TO HAVE IMMEDIATE. AND I DO MEAN IMMEDIATE CONTACT THOSE TRANSFORMERS. IF ONE WAS TO BLOOM, IF THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY, IF THERE WAS TREES PLANTED, THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN. 
          WE'VE ASKED THAT IF THIS PROJECT GOES IN, THEY PUT UP A FENCE ON THEIR PROPERTY, NOT ON OURS. I DON'T HAVE A FENCE ON MY PROPERTY. MATTER OF FACT, TIA, I WANT YOU TO THINK OF THIS. MY PROPERTY RIGHT HERE. THAT'S YOUR BACK DOOR. I'M LOOKING AT YOUR BACK DOOR FROM 
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ME TO YOU. THAT'S PRETTY CLOSE. I HAVE A BRANCH ON A LOCUST TREE THAT LITERALLY, IF THEY WOULD OPEN THEIR BACK DOOR, WOULD HIT THEM IN THE FACE. THAT'S HOW LONG MY TREES HAVE BEEN THERE. 38 YEARS. AND TALK ABOUT NOT EMINENT DOMAIN. I DON'T. THAT'S NOT THE WORD MISTER KRAMER USED. I'VE BEEN WATERING THAT PROPERTY FOR APPROXIMATELY 30 YEARS. 38. I ALSO KNOW MY NEIGHBOR HAS BEEN MAINTAINING THEIRS BECAUSE WE MOWED. ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THE NEW SWEDEN IRRIGATION CANAL THAT RUNS ALONG THERE, BETWEEN THE SCHOOLYARD AND THE PROPERTY. THERE'S NO THOUGHT OF PUTTING A FENCE UP. I DON'T KNOW ANY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD IF THESE ARE GOING TO BE SMALL, AFFORDABLE HOMES THAT AREN'T. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE KIDS. 
          WHO'S GOING TO PROTECT THOSE THOSE KIDS FROM THOSE CANALS? NOW, I WOULD WELCOME ANY ONE OF YOU TO COME OUT TO THAT PROPERTY, WALK TO THE EDGE AND LOOK HOW STEEP THAT CANAL IS. 
          NO ONE, A FOUR LEGGED DOG, HAS A HARD TIME GETTING OUT OF THAT CANAL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO I TALKED ABOUT THE EASEMENT. I TALKED ABOUT THE FENCE. I'VE TALKED ABOUT THE 25 FOOT PROPERTY LINE. NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SEWAGE SYSTEM, WHICH YOU MENTIONED. MR. KRAMER, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH MYSELF IN TWO YEARS, THE CITY'S DIGESTER WILL BE AT CAPACITY. WE ARE NOW AT NEAR CAPACITY. THE CITY HAS PLANS TO REDO THAT IN THE FUTURE. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE YEAR 2030. NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I DON'T WANT SEWAGE BACKING UP INTO MY YARD BECAUSE OF ALL THIS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE CITY, WHAT ARE THE CITY'S PLANS TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING? AND IT CAN HAPPEN. I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT IF THE ANY RUNOFF FLOODS AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM, IT WILL COME UP INTO THE HOME. I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. I WISH I WOULD HAVE PUT A CHECK VALVE IN WHEN I BUILT MY HOUSE 30 YEARS AGO. ALL RIGHT. WATER SUPPLY. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ISSUE I'VE DEALT WITH. WATER IS DURING PEAK SEASON, OUR WATER PRESSURE GOES DOWN. NOW 14 HOMES, I AGREE, IS NOT A LOT OF HOMES, BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE IRRIGATION THERE AS WELL. DO YOU TAKE THAT EXTRA 14 HOMES WITH THE ADDITIONAL 64 THAT YOU'RE BUILDING? I THINK 64 OR 68 THAT ARE BUILT GOING TO BE BUILT JUST NORTH OF 17TH STREET. 
          THINK ABOUT THE WATER PRESSURE GOING DOWN. THE CITY HAS NO PLANS RIGHT NOW TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, TO MY KNOWLEDGE. ANOTHER ONE WE TALKED ABOUT, R1. ALL RIGHT. THE CITY IS THAT AREA IS RESIDENTIAL ONE. I LOOKED IT UP. I'M NOT THE LAWYER. R1 IS SINGLE DWELLING HOMES, SINGLE DWELLING, NOT A MULTI HOME. A MULTI-UNIT COMPLEX THAT'S GOING ON HERE. I DON'T KNOW MAYBE I MISREAD. THAT'S THE LAWYER'S JOB. I OWN A HARDWARE STORE. I JUST I'M JUST CONCERNED WHERE THE CITY IS HEADED NOW. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF APARTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING FILLED. I'VE GOT THAT FROM SEVERAL BIG DEVELOPERS. MY GRANDSON'S A PROJECT MANAGER FOR ONE OF THE BIG ONES IN THIS COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE NOT FILLING UP THEIR HOMES. NOW WE'RE GOING TO BUILD 14 UNITS, SUPPOSEDLY NOT A LOT OF MONEY. BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, BUILDING MATERIALS AREN'T GOING DOWN, AND I BET EACH ONE OF THOSE HOMES IS GOING TO BE 250 TO $275,000. SO WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR A LOW INCOME PERSON TO GET INTO THAT? WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS. I LOVE THIS CITY. I AM. 
          GRANTED, I'M FROM NEW JERSEY BUT CAME OUT HERE IN THE NAVY. I'M AN EX-NEW. I LOVE THIS CITY AND I WANT TO SEE IT GROW. I DON'T MIND NEIGHBORS, I JUST DON'T WANT THEM 30FT 25FT FROM MY BACK PROPERTY LINE. AND BY THE WAY, I DID ASK FOR A FENCE AND A SOLID FENCE. AND I DID ASK MR. KRAMER AT THE MEETING. I SAID, IF WE DO PUT A SOLID FENCE IN, I WANT A DOGGIE DOOR IN THERE BECAUSE MY DOG GOES BACK THERE AND DOES HIS BUSINESS. SO I WANT TO KEEP THIS LIGHT. IS THAT ON THE RECORD? YES. ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I THINK I'VE DONE MY HOMEWORK PRETTY GOOD, BUT I'M NOT A LAWYER AND I DON'T READ BETWEEN THE LINES, SO. WELL. ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU PLEASE, PLEASE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. I DON'T THINK. I MEAN, NONE OF US REALLY WANT NEIGHBORS TO TURN BACK, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST HAVE SOME DISTANCE AND SOME PRIVACY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SIR. I DO 
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FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO SPEAK. I WAS KIND OF CALLED UPON SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. THAT DOES ENCOMPASS TOWNHOMES. THAT DOES FALL INTO THE DEFINITION. ALSO, THERE WAS A STATEMENT OF EMINENT DOMAIN. I THINK MR. ROUGHNECK PROBABLY MEANT ADVERSE POSSESSION. THIS IS NOT A SITUATION WHERE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING OVER THIS PROPERTY. HOWEVER, AS FAR AS ADVERSE POSSESSION GOES, I DO AGREE WITH MR. KRAMER. THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THIS CANNOT COME INTO YOUR CONVERSATION AT ALL. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT A COURT OF LAW WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON. JACOB, WHILE YOU'RE UP AND TALKING TO US, COULD YOU MAYBE, SINCE THERE'S A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT THE PUBLIC HAS SUBMITTED REGARDING DIFFERENT ISSUES, CAN YOU MAYBE SPEAK TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER VERSUS WHAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO AS FAR AS THINGS LIKE SCHOOL CAPACITY, ROAD CAPACITY, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, JUST SO THAT WAY IT'S CLEAR FOR YOU ESSENTIALLY ALL YOU REALLY ARE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S PLAN, AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THE ZONING CODE. THAT IS MAINLY WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING NOW. THE TESTIMONY THAT'S GIVEN TONIGHT. THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE ALLOWED TO SHARE THEIR HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SHARE. TO THEIR HEART'S GUSTO, LIKE HOW THEY FEEL LIKE THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DAMAGING TO THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW. BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU ARE TO CONSIDER IS WHETHER OR NOT THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S PLANS, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT FALLS IN LINE WITH THE ZONING CODE. THANK YOU. AWESOME. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRIDGET HALL. I LIVE ON 2895 NEWMAN DRIVE. OKAY, FIRST OFF, I DON'T KNOW WHY MY HOUSE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BECAUSE I LIVE IN THAT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER MOTHERS THROUGH SCHOOL AND EVERYTHING, AND NO ONE HAD HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS UNTIL I UNTIL WE HAPPENED TO DRIVE BY IT ONE TIME. AND YOU KNOW HOW HARD THOSE SIGNS ARE TO SEE, BECAUSE THEY FACE THE WRONG WAY. THE ZONING SIGNS. OKAY, SO THAT'S MY ISSUE NUMBER ONE. 
          OKAY. SO WHEN HE WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP, NOTICE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, BOTH SIDES OF GOING ALL THE WAY SOUTH IS ALL WAS ALL SUBURBAN NOT URBAN. SEEM TO GLOSS OVER THAT. AS IF THAT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE, BUT IT IS A IT IS A BIG ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          LET'S SEE. AND THE THE REFERRING TO AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR, I CAN SEE AS A DEVELOPER THAT MAYBE YOU MIGHT THINK IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR, BUT DRIVING YOU WOULD KNOW IT IS. 
          IT IS NOT A SAFE ROAD. IT IS TWO LANES. THERE'S NO SHOULDER, THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO EXPAND THAT ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S A CANAL ON THERE. $75,000 IMPACT FEE WOULD NOT IMPACT. SO IN ADDITION, NO TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED ON THAT ROAD JUST A TINY BIT SOUTH OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A LIMITING FACTOR FOR BRIDGE, SO YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PASS A TRUCK ON THAT BRIDGE. AND SOMEHOW THERE'S ALWAYS A CAR RIGHT WHEN YOU NEED TO GO HUNDRED. SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THOSE THINGS. I, I RUN A LOT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I LOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S SO SAFE. THERE AREN'T THAT MANY CARS. THE STREETS ARE NICE AND WIDE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. IT'S VERY SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK THAT ADDING 28 CARS FOR 14 TOWNHOMES WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT THERE. AND IT WOULD REALLY CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'M COLIN HUNTER. I LIVE AT 44, 29 TALES DOWN THE ROAD IN TOWN. YOU AND. AND WE'RE ALSO REPRESENTING THE 
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DEVELOPER. WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE AT LEAST ALREADY THAT ARE EAGER TO SIGN A CONTRACT. AS SOON AS WE HAVE SOMETHING AVAILABLE FOR THEM. SO THERE'S BEEN TALK ABOUT HAVING AN OVERABUNDANCE OF APARTMENTS AND TOWNHOUSES BUILT, BUT I KNOW THIS IS STILL SOMETHING THAT'S HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER. SO. YES. ARE YOU WANTING TO DO A COMMENT OR YOU JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE COMMISSION? BOTH. OKAY. WELL THEN LET'S LET THIS GENTLEMAN. OH, UNLESS YOU. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OH. ON YOUTUBE, 1002 POLAND CIRCLE. OKAY. IT SEEMS THE BIGGEST NEIGHBOR HERE HAS NOT BEEN INFORMED OF THIS BECAUSE THEY LIVE THE SCHOOL, WEST SIDE ELEMENTARY MEN. AND THIS IS ON NEW MEN, WHICH IS MORE THAN 250FT FROM THE DEVELOPER, WHICH EXCLUDES THEM FROM GETTING NOTIFICATION OF THIS. NOW. THAT SCHOOL IS 41 YEARS OLD. AND DISTRICT 91 DOES WHAT THEY'VE DONE WITH SEVERAL OTHERS, THEY WILL BUILD ANOTHER SCHOOL IN THE BACK. IT WOULD SURE BE NICE TO HAVE AN ACCESS ROAD TO WHERE YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT A PRIVATE ROAD. I THINK WE OUGHT TO THINK OF A FUTURE HERE. WE CAN DO IT THE EASY WAY OR THE HARD WAY LATER. THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSION MEMBERS. IF I COULD BORROW THE SCREEN, I'M LOOKING FOR THE SATELLITE MAP. IF YOU DON'T MIND, WOULD YOU MIND SAYING YOUR NAME AND APOLOGIZE? MY NAME IS JOHN JOHNSON. I LIVE AT 2900 BLUEBIRD LAKE IN IDAHO FALLS, IDAHO. IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD YOU MAKE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPANSIVE? I'M SORRY, I CAN'T. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO USE MY MY LITTLE POINTER HERE. AND I HATE TO TURN MY BACK ON YOU, BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE A POINTER THAT YOU CAN USE. I'VE GOT MY OWN. WELL LOOK AT THIS. OH WOW. OKAY. PERFECT. SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE. OH, I'LL BE SCREWED UP MORE THAN. THERE YOU GO. JUST SLOW DOWN THE BUTTON. BUTTON IN THE MIDDLE. ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS HERE, BUT WHAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. SO AS YOU FOLKS MAY BE AWARE, YOU APPROVED A LARGE AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS TO BE BUILT THERE AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT CURRENTLY. SO THOSE APARTMENTS IN THOSE APARTMENTS WHEN THEY'RE BUILT ARE GOING TO INCREASE THAT TRAFFIC. NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE IS A FOUR LANE ROAD AS YOU HEAD TO THE EAST. BUT AS YOU HEAD TO THE WEST, GUESS WHAT? IT TURNS INTO A TWO LANE ROAD. AND OH, I APOLOGIZE, I WILL GET THIS FIGURED OUT, BUT IT WON'T BE SOLID. SO AS WE LOOK FURTHER PAST THOSE, WE'RE LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE ALL LOOK LIKE HOUSES, BUT THEY'RE NOT HOUSES. SOME OF THEM ARE HOUSES. SOME OF THEM ARE APARTMENTS. SOME OF THEM ARE TOWNHOUSES. AND THEN IF WE LOOK EVEN FURTHER OVER HERE, DATING FROM THAT TWO LANE ROADWAY, WHAT WE SEE IS WE SEE MORE APARTMENTS. THESE ARE ALL APARTMENTS RIGHT HERE. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF INFLUX OF TRAFFIC. WE HAVE AN INFLUX OF BUSSES THAT COME THAT WAY SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE AN EASIER TRIP TO 17TH STREET. AND SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT BELT AND ROAD. AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF TO COVER THAT YOU FOLKS CAN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. BUT BELT AND ROAD IS A TWO LANE ROAD. 
          THERE'S NO PARKING ON THE WEST SIDE. THERE'S PARKING ON THE EAST SIDE. WHEN THE PARENTS COME TO DROP THEIR CHILDREN OFF, YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS A PLETHORA OF PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKED ON BELT AND ROAD WAITING THEIR TURN TO MAKE IT TO THE FRONT DOORS OF THE SCHOOL TO PICK UP THEIR KIDS. SO TRAVERSING THAT ROAD AS IT IS CURRENTLY, IS NIGH IMPOSSIBLE FROM THE TIME THAT THEY'RE DROPPING KIDS OFF IN THE MORNING UNTIL THEY PICK THEM UP IN THE LATE AFTERNOON, I WOULD IMPLORE THE CITY TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY ON FOUR LOCATIONS. 
          I WOULD LIKE A TRAFFIC STUDY AT NEWMAN AND VELMA. I WOULD LIKE A TRAFFIC STUDY ALSO AT PHELAN OR SORRY, BLUEBIRD AND NEWMAN BECAUSE THE KIDS ARE BEING FUNNELED CURRENTLY FROM THIS 
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NEIGHBOR UP HERE ON CRYSTAL LAKE. YOU FOLKS JUST HAD THESE AWESOME LITTLE LIGHTS INSTALLED SO THE KIDS CAN PUSH THE BUTTON AND WALK ACROSS THAT BUSY TWO LANE ROADWAY SO THAT THEY CAN GET IN THE CAR AND THEY FOLLOW THEIR WAY OVER TO THE SCHOOL. WELL, THEN THEY FOLLOW THEIR WAY OVER TO SCHOOL, WHERE THEY END UP WITH IS RIGHT DOWN HERE AT BLUEBIRD AND NEWMAN. YOU'RE GOING TO PUSH MORE TRAFFIC THAT WAY BECAUSE THE PARENTS FOR THESE APARTMENTS, TOWNHOMES, HOMES ARE GOING TO COME THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IN FROM BELLA EASILY. SO THEY'LL COME DOWN. BLUEBIRD. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC FOR THE KIDS COMING IN THAT WAY. IT'S A GREAT SCHOOL. SO YOU HAVE KINDERGARTNERS THROUGH THAT, RIGHT? YOU ALSO HAVE JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL KIDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO TO CATCH THE BUS. SO WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF FOOT TRAFFIC. AND AS WE INCREASE VEHICLE TRAFFIC, THAT'S A GREAT CONCERN. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE THOSE LITTLE KIDS. I HAVE LITTLE KIDS A LONG TIME AGO. I KNOW THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO RULES. THEY DON'T CROSS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. 
          THEY DON'T LOOK BOTH WAYS. THEY DON'T LOOK FOR CARS. AND I SEE THAT BECOMING TRAGIC ISSUE. SO THE INFLUX NOT ONLY FOR THE SCHOOL, BUT I KNOW WE SEE BUSSES, THEY DON'T LEAVE AT 5:00 AND THEY DON'T SHOW UP AT 5:00. MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY KNOW THAT THE BUSSES LEAVE EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND THEY ARRIVE AROUND 530, 6:00 AT NIGHT. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, THERE'S ONLY PEAK TIME AT 5:00, I'M AFRAID THAT THAT'S INACCURATE FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ORIGINALLY MOVED TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS THE FURTHEST WEST NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO IT WAS THE LAST BUS STOP TO GET ON TO GO TO THE SITE, AND WAS THE FIRST ONE TO COME BACK INTO TOWN TO GET OFF. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE. WE HAVE A LOT OF BUS TRAFFIC. WE ALSO HAVE THAT BUS STOP THAT IS WAY UP HERE. SO THEN WHEN THEY DROP OFF, YOU GET THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES DOWN. LET'S SEE. WHAT I REALLY HAVE FOR YOU IS I HAVE A LAMP AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SHARE THAT LETTER WITH YOU. I DO PLAN ON SHARING IT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL WITH THIS. AT THAT POINT, IT KIND OF HITS ALL MY HIGH POINTS. THE OPPORTUNITY OF THIS IS GREAT, BUT TAX WISE IT'S NOT. WITH THIS SPACE BE USED BETTER FOR THESE TOWNHOMES, APARTMENTS. I HEARD THE WORD APARTMENT AND I APOLOGIZE. I HEARD YOU SAY THE WORD APARTMENT. I DON'T MEAN FOR IT TO BE THIS PROJECT, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THIS GOING TO TURN INTO AN APARTMENT? I DON'T KNOW, THE OWNER CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY WHATEVER THEY WANT, UNLESS THERE IS SOME CARS THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PRICE POINT IS FOR THESE APARTMENTS. SOMEBODY MENTIONED $250,000. I HAVE NOT SEEN A HOUSE AND I DON'T FALL FOR $250,000 FOR A LONG TIME. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH WITH A CAR GARAGE, MAYBE TWO CAR GARAGE, YOU'RE TALKING 350 TO 450, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE PRICE POINT IS. IF THE PERSON DOES, WHO'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT? IT'S NOT LOW INCOME PEOPLE. IT'S NOT PEOPLE MOVING INTO IT. I'VE GOT A KID, HE CAN'T AFFORD AN APARTMENT BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER CAN'T AFFORD AN APARTMENT IN IDAHO FALLS. SHE HAS A ROOMMATE WITH TWO OTHER PEOPLE TO LIVE ON IDAHO STREET. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH IDAHO STREET, IT IS NOT THE NICEST NEIGHBORHOOD TO LIVE, RIGHT? IT IS KIND OF A IT USED TO BE AN ENTRY LEVEL NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU COULD GO IN THERE, YOU COULD FIND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE AND AFFORDABLE APARTMENT. AND FOR THESE THREE PEOPLE, THEY HAVE TO PAY ALMOST $1,200 A MONTH TO LIVE TO GET, I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE REALLY THE SAME THING, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE REALISTICALLY AFFORDABLE. THE MINIMUM SIZE EXCEPTION YOU'RE SETTING YOU'VE SET, THE RULE IS SET. AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE ON THAT RULE. IF YOU START VARIANCE NOW, HOW FAR DO WE STOP BEFORE WE STOP. HOLDING TO THAT VARIANCE. RIGHT. WITH TWO ACRES AN ACRE AND A HALF, IS IT AN ACRE POINT EIGHT. YOU SET A STANDARD. WHY SHOULDN'T YOU STILL THE STANDARD? ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE LARGEST FIRE APPARATUS THAT THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS HAS. WILL IT BE ABLE TO FIT IN AND TURN AROUND IN THAT BASKETBALL? YOU SHOULD ASK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THE LARGEST FIRE APPARATUS I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW IS THEIR LABORATORY. I'M LOOKING AT THE PLANS FOR THIS. 
          THERE IS NO WAY THAT THAT FIRE TRUCK IS GOING TO PULL ONTO THAT BASKETBALL COURT AND BE ABLE TO BACK OUT AND CONTINUE ON OUT OF THAT PLACE, AND REALLY, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S NOT STREET. THE BASKETBALL COURT ISN'T GOING TO BE STRUCTURALLY BUILT, SO IT CAN HOLD THE WEIGHT OF THE LADDER TRUCK THAT IS FULLY FILLED WITH WATER. THAT'S ANOTHER THING YOU 
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SHOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. IT WOULD BE QUITE EMBARRASSING FOR A FIRE TRUCK TO PULL IN THERE FULLY LOADED AND THEN FALL. WE'VE SEEN IT AT UNDERGROUND PARKING OVER HERE ON MAIN STREET NEAR IDAHO FALLS SEVERAL YEARS BACK. IT WAS A LITTLE EMBARRASSING WHEN IT WAS A TOW TRUCK FELL INTO THE BIG HOLE. SO YOU RISK CHANGING PRECEDENT AND YOU RISK ALLOWING SOMETHING TO HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I DON'T THINK IS STRUCTURALLY MADE TO EXIST WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. JACOB, THAT I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN SHARE THIS LETTER. SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, CAN I SHARE THIS WITH THE. AND IT'S JUST A READ IT INTO THE RECORD. IT'S JUST A REGURGITATION OF WHAT. AND SOMEWHERE ELSE THEY CAN EDIT OUT WHAT THEY CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR MY POINT, AND I'M SURE THERE'S OTHER FOLKS HERE THAT WANT TO CHAT BESIDES ME. IT'S MAINLY JUST REITERATING THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED. I DON'T THINK IT'S NEEDED. YOU COULD PROBABLY HOLD ON TO. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS GOING TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL. WHETHER THE COMMISSION MAKES A MOTION TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL OR WHETHER THEY RECOMMEND THAT IT NOT HAPPEN. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE PROFESSIONAL HE WOULD KNOW THE ANSWERS. BEFORE I STARTED YOUR COMPANY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU INDICATED THAT. YOU ALL ARE AWESOME. I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS GLORIA UDY. I LIVE ON COLUMBUS CIRCLE, AND AS NEAR AS I THOUGHT WHEN WE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY, IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE. AND NOW I FIND OUT THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO PUT IN MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, THAT'S OKAY. SINGLE AND SINGLE. EVERY MORNING, EVERY NIGHT AFTER THOSE HOMES ARE SOLD, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EXTRA 28 CARS ON THAT ROAD. 
          THERE ARE CHILDREN, THERE ARE BIKES, THERE ARE SCHOOL BUSSES, THERE ARE BUSSES THAT COME UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD EVERY DAY. WHAT ABOUT THE LACK OF PRIVACY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS? OUR FRIEND DAVE BROGDON TALKED ABOUT THAT. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE A TWO STORY HOUSE RIGHT WHERE YOUR SUN SHINES FROM YOUR BACKYARD? WHAT WOULD THAT BE? FUN. THIS HAS BEEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA FOR 30 PLUS YEARS. THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS AND HOUSING WITHIN TWO MILE RADIUS OF THIS CORNER IS UNBELIEVABLE. YOU CAN LOOK AT PICTURES, BUT IF YOU GOT IN THE CAR AND DROVE OVER THERE AND SAW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ON A DAILY BASIS, IT MIGHT CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT HOW MANY APARTMENTS WE NEED HERE. I KNOW IF IT'S FLAT, PUT AN APARTMENT ON IT. WHAT THIS MAP FAILS TO SHOW IS THAT THERE'S A DITCH THAT RUNS DOWN THAT SIDE, AND ALSO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED THAT DITCH RUNS A LOT OF WATER. I CAN'T IMAGINE GETTING CHILDREN IN AND OUT OF THAT. WHAT ABOUT SOME GREEN SPACE? THEY HAVE A SHOW OF PICTURE OF A GREEN HEART OVER THERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IDAHO FALLS OUGHT TO BE MORE ABOUT GREEN SPACE AND HELPING OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE A PLACE TO GROW UP AND SEE THAT. 
          MY NAME IS GARTH WILSON. I LIVE AT 1115 LOWELL DRIVE. SO I'M I'M RAISING A FAMILY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES. BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FEEL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SCHOOL. MY WIFE SERVES ON THE PTA OF WESTSIDE ELEMENTARY. WE HAVE TWO KIDS CURRENTLY ENROLLED THERE, SO I HAVE SOME COMMENTS TO BUILD ON THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE. SOME INSIGHTS FROM SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MR. KRAMER, YOU HAD A GOOD TESTIMONY, WELL THOUGHT OUT PRESENTATION. I DO 
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APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH MANY OF THE THINGS YOU SAID. SO THE SCHOOL IMPACT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT. WESTSIDE ELEMENTARY IS CURRENTLY TURNING FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AWAY, SENDING THEM TO FOX HOLLOW AND TWO OTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO SEND THEIR CHILDREN TO WESTSIDE ELEMENTARY. CURRENTLY, THESE TOWNHOUSES, YOUR YOUR DATA AND YOUR RESEARCH MAY INDICATE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TWO PEOPLE LIVING THERE. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND YOUNG FAMILIES WITH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. KIDS ARE GOING TO GRAVITATE TOWARDS THESE UNITS, FURTHER EXACERBATING THE ISSUES AT WESTSIDE ELEMENTARY. AND THAT'S THE REALITY. AND WE CAN HOPE THAT DISTRICT 91 IS GOING TO PROPOSE A REALISTIC PLAN. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT RECENT YEARS. 
          SO HANGING OUR HATS ON THAT, THAT'S MAGICALLY GOING TO MATERIALIZE, I THINK IS UNREALISTIC AND IGNORES A REAL PROBLEM THAT WE'RE FACING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I THE RESEARCH ON NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON HOME VALUES. I ALSO FILLED THAT'S DISINGENUOUS. I EVEN MR. KRAMER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE'S A MARKETABILITY IMPACT TO PUT MULTI MULTI UNITS LIKE THESE TOWNHOUSES INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD. AND EVEN USED THE EXAMPLE THAT IT CAN CREATE A MARKETABILITY PROBLEM. WHEN WE TALKED TO ANY VALUATION EXPERT, THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT A MARKETABILITY ISSUE SHOULD RESULT IN A MARKETABILITY DISCOUNT. THAT'S AN IMPACT TO HOME PRICES, THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF HOME PRICES. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE ALONG THIS STREET HAVE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE FOR 20, 30 YEARS. YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO TAKE A HAIRCUT ON THAT INVESTMENT. MANY OF THEM HAVE SPENT A LIFETIME BUILDING IT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT MISSED. I COMMUTE NORTH ON BELEN EVERY SINGLE MORNING. 
          BELEN IS A VERY CONGESTED ROAD. SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE CANAL RUNNING ALONG IT, THE INL BUSSES. THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 28 VEHICLES COMMUTING UP AND DOWN BELEN EVERY DAY, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A REAL IMPACT TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS AREA. MY WIFE AND I HAVE TAKEN A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN THIS. IN FACT, SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE DIRECTORS TO MY WIFE AND I TALKING TO OUR NEIGHBORS. SO WE TALKED TO DOZENS OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS WHO LIVED IN THE AREA. WE DIDN'T RUN INTO ONE PERSON WHO LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS. I WOULD CHALLENGE THIS BODY AND THE DEVELOPERS TO ACTUALLY FIND SOMEONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WOULD SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE MAKEUP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS A VERY MATURE NEIGHBORHOOD, LIKE PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, I MENTIONED THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR DECADES. IT JUST DOESN'T FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SOMEONE MADE THE COMMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER SIDE THAT THEY HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED TO TO BUY THESE PROPERTIES. I'D BE INTERESTED TO TO KNOW IF ANY OF THOSE ARE INVESTORS. I THINK THE PRIMARY CLIENTELE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THESE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THEM AS AN INVESTMENT. NOW, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH RENTING. I RENTED FOR A LONG TIME, MY WIFE AND I, BUT THERE TENDS TO BE A DIFFERENT IN THE AMOUNT OF BUY IN WHEN YOU RENT VERSUS OWN, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S THE BENEFIT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS LARGELY PEOPLE WHO OWN HOUSES, MANY OF WHICH WHO OWN THEM FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE GREATER AREA. THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME UP, WHO USED THE POINTER AND I FELT DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB AT POINTING OUT THE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN THE AREA. AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL. I SAT DOWN DRIVING HOME FROM WORK. I DROVE AROUND, JUST JOTTED DOWN ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE JUST ADJACENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR WITHIN A CLOSE PROXIMITY OF ABOUT A MILE. I WAS ABLE TO COME UP WITH RISING SUN, THE BUTTES, TRAIL'S END, COACHMAN TOWNHOUSES, THE LOFTS ON BROADWAY. THERE'S A NEW I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD CATEGORIZE AS APARTMENTS OR TOWNHOUSES, BUT THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT BY THE FIRE STATION. AND THEN THERE ARE MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE INTERSECTION OF BELL AND PENN CAREY. THERE'S GOING TO BE 
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MULTILEVEL APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT ARE PUT ON THAT SMALL PROPERTY AS WELL. IT DOESN'T SEEM TO END, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THIS IS SOMETHING THE BODY CONSIDERS A LOT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IDAHO FALLS IS LOSING, LOSING ITS SOUL TO TO APARTMENTS, WHICH USED TO BE A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE COULD BUY A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WITH A SMALL YARD IN THE CITY. 
          I GREW UP IN THIS COMMUNITY. I REMEMBER WHEN YOUNG COUPLES COULD COULD COMFORTABLY DO THAT. 
          AND I GET THAT THERE'S ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS THAT ARE DRIVING THAT. BUT TAKING UP ALL THE AVAILABLE PROPERTY AND PUTTING APARTMENTS ON IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP THE SITUATION AND THE AFFORDABILITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO I THINK LASTLY, I THINK IN THE BROADER CONTEXT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT, THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. THERE'S CURRENTLY A MAYORAL RACE IN MULTIPLE CITY COUNCIL SEATS THAT ARE BEING CAMPAIGNED FOR RIGHT NOW. THERE SEEMS TO BE A BIT OF A REFERENDUM IN THESE RACES. THAT IS, CONSIDERING WHAT THE PLAN SHOULD BE FOR DEVELOPMENT IN IDAHO FALLS. TWO OF THE THREE MAYORAL CANDIDATES SEEM TO STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE BEING PUT INTO THE CITY, AND STRONGLY OPPOSED THE HIGH NUMBER OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO NOT RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, AT LEAST NOT UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION. I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY TELLING WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO FALLS REALLY WANT HERE. WE SHOULD HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE GLOBAL OR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND IF WE SEE CERTAIN CANDIDATES GET ELECTED, I THINK THAT SENDS A PRETTY CLEAR MESSAGE THAT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS IS NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE AND I DON'T WANT FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE. THANK YOU. 
          WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO GO? ALRIGHTY. WELL THEN I WOULD LIKE TO. BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WOULD LIKE TO LET THE DEVELOPER OR THE APPLICANT MY APOLOGIES. I'M SURE HE WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE ANSWER SOME CONCERNS OR MAY HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY, JUST LIKE HOW YOU WERE ABLE TO JOT DOWN SOME THINGS THAT HE SAID ORIGINALLY. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HIM THE CHANCE TO DO THAT, AND THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE WILL DISCUSS AMONGST THE COMMISSION. SO, MR. KRAMER. THANK YOU AGAIN, I RE-EMPHASIZE THAT WE FIND OURSELVES ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE ISSUE, BUT CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE TESTIMONY, APPRECIATE THE COMMENTARY. I APPRECIATE THE PEOPLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          AND CERTAINLY APPRECIATE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. I ALSO APPRECIATE MR. ROENICK BRINGING UP THE FENCE, BECAUSE IT WAS IN MY NOTES AND I BREEZED RIGHT OVER IT. YES, WE DID TALK ABOUT FENCE AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. IT WASN'T CLEAR IN OUR MINDS THAT EVERY NEIGHBOR WANTED A NEW FENCE. AND SO WHAT WE HAD COMMITTED TO IS TO WORK WITH EACH PROPERTY OWNER ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT SITE AND DETERMINE WHAT WAS THE BEST SOLUTION, BUT NOT COMMITTING ANYTHING TALLER THAN SIX FOOT OPAQUE FENCE. THERE ARE SOME. THE REASON I SAY THAT IS SOME OF THE HOMES ALREADY HAVE EXISTING FENCES THAT THEY MAY WANT TO KEEP. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S GREAT AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO BE RESPECTFUL OF WHAT THE DESIRED SOLUTION IS FOR EACH EACH PROPERTY OWNER. THEY'RE ADJACENT. I'M NOT I'M NOT PLANNING TO RESPOND TO EVERYTHING BECAUSE THAT WOULD TAKE A WHILE. LET ME JUST HIT SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT I THINK WERE CONSISTENT CONCERNS. AND I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO. THE SITE PLAN HERE. THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTARY ABOUT THE RESULTING. IN PARTICULAR DOESN'T ALLOW THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. HAS IT ALLOWED THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT? ARE WE USED TO CLOSE? ARE THEY TOO DENSE? IS THERE A PRECEDENCE HERE? IF A CODE IS AMENDED OR THERE'S A VARIANCE ISSUE, I WOULD POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IF IF THESE UNITS WERE 
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FACING A PUBLIC STREET, IF THAT PRIVATE ROAD WERE ABLE TO GAIN SUFFICIENT WIDTH TO BECOMING A PUBLIC STREET, IT WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT TO THE EAST SO THAT THERE WOULD BE A 25 FOOT FRONT YARD. 
          BUT WHERE THESE BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED, THE THE 25 FOOT REAR YARD, TWO STORY HEIGHT, IF THAT WERE A PUBLIC STREET, THIS PROJECT COULD ESSENTIALLY BE PERMITTED IMMEDIATELY. AND WHAT YOU WOULD LOSE IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IS YOU WOULD LOSE THE COURT, YOU WOULD LOSE THE GREEN SPACE, AND YOU WOULD GET A CUL DE SAC INSTEAD, SO THAT IT MET PUBLIC ROAD REQUIREMENTS. 
          THAT'S PART OF THE POINT OF THE PUD IS TO SAY, LET'S TAKE THESE TRICKY LOTS THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY FIND A WAY TO BUY MORE PROPERTY AND CREATE A PUBLIC STREET. BUT LET'S MAKE IT WORK AND PROVIDE AMENITIES IN EXCHANGE FOR SOME OF THE FLEXIBILITY. BUT IN TERMS OF LOCATION OF THESE HOMES WITHIN 25FT OF THAT REAR YARD AND THE TWO STORY HEIGHT, IF THESE WERE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS INSTEAD OF THREE ATTACHED, NOTHING CHANGES IN THEIR LOCATION, NOTHING CHANGES IN THEIR HEIGHT, NOTHING. THEY CAN SIT RIGHT THERE IN AN R-1 ZONE AS DRAWN. SO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE MULTIPLE UNITS SEEMS TO BE THE REAL CONCERN. SO IN THAT REGARD, THE R-1 ZONE HAS ALLOWED SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UP TO THREE UNITS FOR DECADES, DECADES, IT WOULD REQUIRE USED TO REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, A PUBLIC HEARING MUCH LIKE THIS. BUT THE POINT OF THAT HEARING WAS JUST TO GO THROUGH A CHECKLIST TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED AS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED WITH APPROPRIATE FIREWALLS THAT THEY WERE ON, PLATTED LOTS THAT THEY HAD SUFFICIENT YARDS TO MEET SETBACKS. BUT THAT'S BEEN ALLOWED FOR DECADES IN THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS. THIS IS NOT NEW. 
          SO I WOULD START THERE WITH THE. IN REGARDS TO DOWN THE ROAD, I DO CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S IT'S BUSY. I DON'T LIVE TOO FAR FROM HERE. IF YOU LISTEN TO MY ADDRESS, WHICH BY THE WAY, IF YOU NEED ME TO GIVE THAT AGAIN, OKAY. IT IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR. NOT BECAUSE I SAY SO, BUT BECAUSE THE BONNEVILLE METRO METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION AND THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS SAY SO. IT IS A COLLECTOR, WHICH ULTIMATELY, AT FULL BUILD OUT, IT'S SUFFICIENT RIGHT OF WAY CAN BE OBTAINED. IT WOULD BE AT MOST. ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION AND A CENTER TURN LANE WHERE APPROPRIATE. YOU SEE THAT. YOU SEE THAT EXPANSION WHERE IT HAS BEEN POSSIBLE. PANCARI WAS MENTIONED AS A TWO LANE ROAD. THAT ROAD WILL BE WIDENED WHEN THE CITY SAYS IT'S TIME TO WIDEN IT. IT WILL MATCH THE FIVE LANE ROAD THAT YOU FIND FURTHER EAST. 
          WHEN THE CITY DETERMINES THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE SCHOOL WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE INVITED. I DID CHECK OUR ADDRESS, OUR MAILER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING BECAUSE IT MATCHES THE CITY'S. THEY GIVE US THE ADDRESS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO SEND LETTERS TO. IT DOES INCLUDE DISTRICT 91 BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOL. SO THEY WERE NOTIFIED BY US AND THE CITY. UNFORTUNATELY TO DATE HAVE NOT CHOSEN TO COMMENT ON THE ON THE PROJECT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I GUESS ONE OF THE OTHER COMMON QUESTIONS IS THERE HAS BEEN REFERRED TO A LOT AS APARTMENTS, AS IF THEY WILL ALL BE RENTALS. COULD SOME OF THEM BE PURCHASED BY INVESTORS AND TURNED INTO RENTALS? OF COURSE THEY COULD. EVERY HOME IN THIS CITY COULD BE PURCHASED BY AN INVESTOR AND TURNED INTO A RENTAL. EVERY HOME THAT'S ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT COULD BE BOUGHT AND TURNED INTO A RENTAL. THERE IS NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THAT FROM HAPPENING. OUR HOPE IS THAT THESE WILL BE PURCHASED AND THEY'LL BE OWNER OCCUPIED. AND THEN PEOPLE WILL FIND A MORE AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE. IT'S IT'S INTERESTING. 
          IT'S ALWAYS INTERESTING TO ME IN THESE MEETINGS THAT AND I. GO TO A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS. 
          IT'S A VERY COMMON REFRAIN THAT IN THE SAME MEETING THAT WE COMPLAIN AND WORRY ABOUT RISING HOME COSTS, THAT WE ALSO ADVOCATE AGAINST HOUSING. THIS IS, TO ME, A SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE IN LARGE PART, THAT WHEN SUPPLY IS LOW AND DEMAND IS HIGH, PRICES GO UP. SO ONE OF THE WAYS, NOT THE ONLY WAY, BUT ONE OF THE WAYS TO REDUCE AND STABILIZE PRICING IS TO INCREASE SUPPLY TO MEET DEMAND. THAT IS ONE THING THAT THIS PROJECT DOES. IT HELPS INCREASE SUPPLY. IT SAYS YES TO HOUSING. AND I'M SORRY IF I'M COMING ACROSS PASSIONATE. IT'S BECAUSE I AM AND I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR HOUSING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND ALONG THOSE LINES, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD ASK IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH TOWNHOMES? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE 
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THAT LIVE IN TOWNHOMES? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE THAT MIGHT RENT THOSE TOWNHOMES? AND I HOPE THE ANSWER IS NOTHING BECAUSE THERE ARE JUST PEOPLE. PEOPLE WILL LIVE THERE. GOOD PEOPLE. EVERY NEIGHBOR THAT YOU HAVE, WHETHER IT'S IN AN ATTACHED UNIT OR A DETACHED UNIT OR A COMPLEX APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU RUN THE RISK OF A BAD NEIGHBOR. YOU RUN THE YOU HOPE FOR A GOOD NEIGHBOR. WE CAN'T CONTROL WHO LIVES THERE, BUT BY VIRTUE OF THEM BEING TOWNHOMES DOES NOT MEAN THAT A LESSER INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO LIVE THERE. AND THAT DOESN'T INDICATE THAT THEY'RE BAD. IN TERMS OF THE STUDIES, I CERTAINLY ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT I THINK WHAT I SAID WAS FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT MAY CREATE A MARKETABILITY ISSUE. THAT'S NOT FOR ME THAT THOSE ARE THE EXACT WORDS OF AN APPRAISER THAT I SPOKE TO ABOUT THIS ISSUE YEARS AGO, BECAUSE I WAS HEARING THIS SO OFTEN IN PUBLIC MEETINGS. WHAT IS THIS REALLY DO TO PROPERTY VALUES FROM AN APPRAISAL STANDPOINT? AND THE ANSWER WAS FROM AN APPRAISAL SPAN STANDPOINT, REALLY NOTHING BUT FROM A FROM A MARKETABILITY. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT WANT TO BUY THAT HOUSE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT STILL WILL AND WILL PAY THE MARKET PRICE. IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF REFERENCE TO 28 VEHICLES. THERE ARE ONLY 14 UNITS. THERE MAY BE 20 VEHICLES. THERE MAY BE LESS, THERE MAY BE MORE. THEY CERTAINLY WILL NOT ALL EXIT AND ENTER THE PRIVATE DRIVE ALL AT ONCE. THAT'S NOT HOW TRAFFIC WORKS. IT WILL BE SPREAD OUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY. AND AGAIN, THESE ROADS ARE BUILT TO HANDLE TRAFFIC. AND AGAIN, I AGREE WITH THE SCHOOL ISSUE. I'M CERTAINLY NOT STANDING HERE SAYING THAT THERE IS NOT A SCHOOL ISSUE IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH OVERCROWDING, ESPECIALLY IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS. AND I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT WILL BRING THE HOUSE DOWN, SO TO SPEAK. THERE WILL LIKELY BE KIDS THAT ATTEND THE SCHOOL FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE WILL BE UNITS THAT DON'T HAVE KIDS. THE SCHOOL WILL CONTINUE TO BE CROWDED. WHETHER THIS IS APPROVED OR NOT. THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR APPROVING OR NOT APPROVING PUD. AND THEN FINALLY, I'M GOING TO DEFEND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN JUST A BIT. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S FRUSTRATION, BUT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IT WAS DEVELOPED WITH STATISTICALLY VALID SURVEYS IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY, AND THE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT EXIST ON THIS PARCEL OF LAND. THEY CAME WITH THE PURCHASE OF AN R-1 ZONE. AGAIN, THIS PROJECT, IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT A PUBLIC STREET, IT IT CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING, WITHOUT ANY OF THE VARIANTS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THAT PLAN DOESN'T EXIST TODAY. BUT THE POINT THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS, DESPITE ALL THAT THIS IS, WE'VE TRIED TO DO OUR BEST TO INCLUDE THE AMENITIES, TO NOT MARRY ANY OF THE ANY OF THE SETBACKS ADJACENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS. THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND THE STAFF REPORT, AND DIDN'T FIND THAT IT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH ANYTHING. AND WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER THE MOST RELEVANT CRITERIA, WHICH IS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOUR CODE, AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT TO CITY COUNCIL. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. NOT AT THIS POINT, BUT I THINK AS THE COMMISSION STARTS DISCUSSING, WE MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND CITY STAFF. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW FOR THIS ITEM. AND WE ARE GOING TO NOW HAVE NOW YOU GET TO HEAR OUR THOUGHTS ON IT ALL. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING THAT. SO FIRST OFF DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY OR HAVE ANY THING TO SAY. SO FAR WE'VE HEARD A LOT AND I'M GLAD WE HAVE. ONE. OKAY, I WILL START THEN BECAUSE I WROTE A LOT, A LOT OF STUFF DOWN. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO ME THAT. ARE A CLEAR YES VOTING YES ON THIS. BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF THINGS OR SEVERAL THINGS, NOT A LOT, BUT SEVERAL THINGS THAT DOES HAVE ME CONCERNED THAT I THINK ARE MOST DEFINITELY VALID. 
          AND I HOPE TO ADDRESS THAT. SO. I SHOULD HAVE HAD YOU STAY UP HERE. MR. KRAMER, WE YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT IN THE MEETING, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, SOME PEOPLE WERE ASKING, WELL, WHY CAN'T YOU FLIP IT? AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU SAID, QUOTE, TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE. WE JUST DECIDED NOT TO OR YOU DECIDED TO KEEP IT THIS WAY. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO DIVE MORE INTO THAT IF THAT'S EVEN ALLOWED OR POSSIBLE? I, I CLOSE THE HEARING, BUT FROM WHAT I 
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UNDERSTAND, I WE CAN STILL ASK AS THE COMMISSION WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS. IS THAT CORRECT. 
          WHETHER IT BE FROM CITIES OR CAN WE ONLY ASK QUESTIONS FROM THE CITY STAFF? SORRY, IT'S LIKE MY SECOND TIME DOING THIS. I'VE BEEN TO MULTIPLE MEETINGS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I DON'T NORMALLY RUN THE SHOW. CAROL I THINK ONCE IT'S CLOSED, IT'S CLOSED. WHAT DO YOU THINK? THE CITY STAFF DO NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS, OKAY. SO HOWEVER, AM I ALLOWED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I THINK TECHNICALLY YOU COULD REOPEN IT, BUT IT WOULD BE. IT WOULD REQUIRE A CLOSURE. 
          ANOTHER CLOSURE? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT MAKES SENSE. I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, SOME OF THE CITY STAFF MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM. AND I THINK THE BEST PERSON TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS IS THE APPLICANT. SO THEN I WILL BE A LITTLE UNORTHODOX HERE, BUT THIS IS AN UNORTHODOX ITEM. I'M GOING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND MR. KRAMER, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO HOVER AROUND THE. MICROPHONE. WOULDN'T WOULDN'T THAT REQUIRE A MOTION TO REOPEN? SEE, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ATTORNEYS ON THE COMMISSION. I DO BELIEVE IT WOULD REQUIRE. OKAY. YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. CAN I ENTERTAIN? WELL, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SECOND THAT? I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. 
          COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER CANTU I. I, I, I MEAN, I KNOW. OKAY, YOU HAVE YOUR CARDS. GOOD POINT. OKAY. SO GOING WITH THAT QUESTION, WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN FLIPPED? BECAUSE YOU SAID TECHNICALLY IT COULD OR MOST LIKELY COULD HAVE, BUT WHY? WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS THERE? SURE. NO. GOOD QUESTION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. AND IF I COULD BE WRONG. BUT I THINK REOPENING THINGS, THEY ALL GET A SECOND CHANCE TO. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE. SO I'M ADVOCATING FOR YOU. SO YES, WE DID WE DID TALK ABOUT IT. AND SOME OF THE WHAT I THINK I SAID WAS THERE WERE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE THAT REQUEST, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, WAS TO PUT THE ACCESS ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOMES AND SO THAT THOSE WHO ARE ADJACENT CAN CONTINUE TO ACCESS THEIR PROPERTY ON THE ACCESS ROAD. SOME OF IT WAS ALSO RELATED TO THE EASEMENT ISSUE THAT MR. RUPNIK BROUGHT UP. SO IT WOULD BE EASIER ACCESS TO THOSE TRANSFORMERS. SO LET'S THINK ABOUT THEN. SURE. COULD YOU PUT THE ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO THOSE HOMES? I SUPPOSE THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT LET'S THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU LOSE AND WHAT YOU DO TO THE SITE. NUMBER ONE, YOU LOSE THE BUFFER AND THE FENCE POTENTIALLY. I MEAN, THE THE BUFFER FOR SURE IS NO LONGER HAVE THE SPACE TO PLANT THE TREES AND PROVIDE THE ACCESS. 
          THE DEVELOPERS ALSO UNDER NO OBLIGATION, HAD NO INTENT TO PROVIDE CURB CUTS ADJACENT TO THOSE HOMES. AND SO THE RISK OF POTENTIAL DAMAGE AND POTENTIAL. DIFFICULTIES BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER, THE FUTURE OWNER OF THAT PRIVATE ROAD, AND THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. SO THEN SOME I MEAN, WHAT WE WERE ALSO HEARING A LOT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WHEN THIS CAME UP WAS THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT. WELL, IF YOU LOSE THE TREES, YOU POTENTIALLY LOSE THE FENCES. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE OPENING UP FOR. SO THEN IT BECAME A QUESTION OF DO YOU JUST SLIDE EVERYTHING FORWARD OR SLIDE EVERYTHING TO THE EAST SO YOU CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT ROAD? WELL, IF YOU THEN START TO LOOK AT YOU REALLY CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE FACING ONE WAY. SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO FLIP THE HOUSES. AND THAT ESSENTIALLY THEN YOU'RE PUTTING BACKYARDS A LOT CLOSER TO THE CHURCH PARKING LOT. AND THAT WAS BETTER FOR THEM TO HAVE A 25FT OF GRASS LIKE A NORMAL R1 RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE. 
          IT WOULD ALSO, I WOULD ADD, JUST CREATE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOW THE THE AMENITIES LINE UP AND THE STORM POND, IT KIND OF DIVIDES THINGS IN A, IN A LESS EFFICIENT WAY THAN IF YOU KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS AND HAVE ALL THE PARKING ON ONE SIDE, ALL THE HOMES ON THE OTHER. SO COULD YOU FLIP THIS? POTENTIALLY. BUT AGAIN, THAT REQUEST WAS DRIVEN BY ACCESS, AND THAT DIDN'T SEEM TO US TO BE A. REASONABLE REASON OR A COMPELLING ENOUGH REASON IS WHAT I SHOULD SAY TO THE ENTIRE ENTIRE SITE. PLAN THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SUFFICIENTLY. YES. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR NO. NO ONE. OKAY. I DO WANT TO GIVE 
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A CHANCE AT THIS POINT. SORRY, I JUST DID WANT TO JUST ADDRESS AND PREVIOUS CITY ATTORNEY DALE SAUER. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING WAS REOPENED TO ADDRESS THAT NARROW ISSUE. I DO BELIEVE THAT ANY COMMENTS THAT DO ARE MADE FROM THE PUBLIC ARE. I THINK THEY DO NEED TO BASICALLY REMAIN KIND OF TIGHT KNIT TO THAT NARROW ISSUE THAT WAS ADDRESSED. ALL RIGHT. SO BASED OFF OF THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT I BROUGHT UP TO OPEN THE PUBLIC MEETING, OPEN THE PUBLIC MEETING BACK OPEN FOR. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, MR. ROMNEY? AGAIN, I WOULD CHALLENGE EVERY ONE OF YOU, PLEASE TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK HOW NARROW THIS LOT IS VISUALLY. LOOK AT IT. EVERYTHING IS BIGGER ON A SURVEY OR A SATELLITE SHOT. NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE YOUNG LADY THAT'S NOT HERE NOW. BUT HER COMMENTS WERE ON THE BILL AND ROAD. HOW NARROW IT IS. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT SOUTH BY THE FIRE STATIONS. MR. I, I, I THINK THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NARROW, NARROW TO THIS ISSUE. OKAY. FLIPPING THE PROPERTY. OKAY. AND WE DON'T WANT IT. A LOT OF US DON'T WANT IT FLIP BECAUSE THE LIGHTS WILL BE RIGHT IN OUR HOUSE. THAT'S ONE REASON. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY SOME PEOPLE DO BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE THEM ACCESS FOR THEIR TRAILERS. SO. 
          RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. NO WORRIES. ANY ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING FOR. FOR GOOD. OKAY. SO. I DID WANT TO BRING UP THE NEIGHBORS BEING NOTIFIED. THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEELING LIKE THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING UNTIL THEY DROVE PAST IS. AND I'M GOING TO ASK CITY STAFF THIS QUESTION, IS THE REQUIREMENT 250FT OR 300FT WITHIN THE PROPERTY ON ALL SIDES OF NOTIFICATION? IT'S 300FT, 300FT, THREE TO BOUNDARY. OKAY. EVEN THOUGH THE SCHOOL SITS FORWARD ON THEIR LOT, THEY'RE STILL CONTIGUOUS TO THE PROPERTY WITHIN 300FT. SO ANYONE WITHIN 300FT WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. OKAY. AND ANOTHER REASON THAT WE POST THE PROPERTY SO THAT THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED AT LEAST CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING NOW, IS THAT 300 FOOT LOT THAT'S SET, IS THAT SET BY THE STATE? THAT IS, IT'S SET BY THE LOCAL LAND USE PLANNING ACT IN IDAHO CODE. OKAY. SO THAT SO UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S SOMETHING THE CITY THEY LIKE TO FOLLOW THE STATE LAW ESSENTIALLY. AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT THAT'S GENERALLY HOW WE NOT WE THE CITY HAS DONE IS THAT THEY JUST FOLLOW IDAHO CODE OF 300FT. WE DO THE MINIMUM IDAHO CODE. WE CAN BE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WE GO OUT FURTHER. HOWEVER, THAT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS BECAUSE WHERE DOES THAT NUMBER COME FROM? YEAH, OKAY. MAKES SENSE. ALSO I IS BELT AND ROAD COUNTY BETWEEN I GUESS BROADWAY AND. PANCARI. 
          ALL OF IT CORRECT. OKAY. BUT THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO IT. THERE'S STILL SOME THERE IN THE COUNTY, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. SO WE JUST TO CORRECT THAT, WHAT YOU SEE NORTH OF PANCARI IS ACTUALLY STILL COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. I'M SORRY. ALL THE BLACK IS THE THE CITY BOUNDARY IS THIS BLACK LINE HERE. SO NORTH OF THERE TO BROADWAY IS COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY. 
          OKAY. AND SOUTH AND THEN SOUTH. YEAH. ALSO WHAT THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT OR CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC STUDY. HOW MANY UNITS DOES A DEVELOPMENT HAVE TO HIT BEFORE A TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRED. AND WHY IS IT THAT WAY. SO TRAFFIC STUDY IS REQUIRED. IF THERE'S I BELIEVE IT'S FOR RESIDENTIAL 100 TRIPS PER HIGH PEAK. SO GENERALLY 8 A.M. 5 P.M. IF IF WE BELIEVE THAT THAT OR THE EXCUSE ME, THE CITY ENGINEER TRAFFIC ENGINEER BELIEVES THAT THAT'S GOING TO REACH THE DEVELOPMENT, GOING TO REACH THAT, THEN HE WILL REQUIRE TRAFFIC STUDY. ANOTHER OPTION IS WE'LL ASK FOR DIESEL LANES OR TURN LANES. AND IF THEY DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE OR CONSTRUCT THOSE, THEN THEY CAN DO A TRAFFIC STUDY ON THEIR OWN TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A NECESSITY OR NOT. OKAY, MOST TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE DONE FOR AN AREA, NOT JUST A SPECIFIC PROPERTY OR DEVELOPMENT. OKAY, OKAY. AND 
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THEN WASN'T THERE A PATHWAY INSTALLED RECENTLY ALONG PANCARI WEST OF BELEN? CORRECT. 
          THERE'S A PATHWAY THAT I BELIEVE IT STARTS HERE AND GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND. I BELIEVE THEY'RE ABOUT RIGHT HERE. DOES IT GO TO THE INTERSECTION OF BELEN AND PANCARI? YES. OKAY. 
          OKAY. GOTCHA. AND Y AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THIS. DO WE KNOW WHY THAT WAS? FELT LIKE IT WAS WARRANTED OR NEEDED? WHAT? WHAT'S THE MAIN USE OF THAT PATHWAY? THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS A PATHWAYS PLAN OKAY. AND IT WAS PART OF THE PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, GOOD. I JUST WANTED TO HELP CLEAR SOME THINGS UP OF SOME GENERAL COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. THANK YOU. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE CANAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PRETTY STEEP CANAL, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT TOWNHOMES LIKE THESE DO HAVE LITTLE FAMILIES IN THEM. THE PRICE POINT THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH TOWNHOMES LIKE THESE ONE CAR GARAGE, THREE BED, TWO BATH, THEY'RE AROUND. THEY GO ANYWHERE FROM 275 UP TO 300. NOW, IF WE'RE TALKING MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND A TWO CAR GARAGE, THEN IT'S PUSHING 300. THESE MIGHT BE EVEN CLOSER TO 300. AND IN THAT PRICE RANGE RIGHT NOW, THAT IS CONSIDERED THE STARTER HOME. 
          NOW IN OUR COMMUNITY UNFORTUNATELY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE SEEING YOUNG FAMILIES MOVE IN. AND SO THOUGH WE'RE SEEING THAT ON AVERAGE OR THE DATA IS SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS AVERAGE 1 TO 2 PEOPLE. THIS TYPE OF HOUSING FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN PERSONALLY, IS USUALLY HAVING LITTLE FAMILIES. AND SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT CANAL. 
          HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AS A COMMISSION WE CAN DO ABOUT IT, WHETHER IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, STILL RECOMMEND APPROVAL, BUT WITH A CONDITION OF CITY COUNCIL OR CITY. LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL OF THE POTENTIAL OF A FENCE THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE WITH THAT. ONE THING THAT I PERSONALLY THINK THAT I JUST CAN'T. WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY HERE? BUT ONE THING THAT I'M JUST VERY LIKE, WELL, IT IS FOLLOWING THE RULES IS THESE TOWNHOMES. THEY'RE TECHNICALLY THE THE CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE BACK FENCE TO THE BACK DOOR. AND WHETHER IT BE A TOWNHOME OR SINGLE FAMILY TWO STORY HOME, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WINDOWS LOOKING DOWN EITHER WAY, WHETHER IT'S A TOWNHOME OR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IT'S STILL AT THE CERTAIN DISTANCE AWAY. AND WITH THOSE TREES THERE, I MEAN, YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SMALL LITTLE TREES, BUT THEY'LL GROW IN TIME. BUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE MADE IN THE LETTER SAYING, WHY CAN'T THIS JUST BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? WELL, IF IT WAS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF ALSO BEING THE SAME HEIGHT. AND SO THE THE PRIVACY JUST TO CORRECT YOU. TOWNHOMES ARE STILL TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. BUT IN, IN THE GENERAL SENSE OF WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING, OKAY. IT'S DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, RIGHT? AND WHETHER IT'S A TOWNHOME, A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED OR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, IT'S THE SAME HEIGHT AND IT'S THE SAME DISTANCE AS IT WOULD BE. AND SO. TO ME, THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT FOR PRIVACY CONCERNS, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME IN THAT RULE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS JUST SOME NEW THING. AND I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THE EASEMENT TO MOVE IT CLOSER TO THE ROAD THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO PUSH IT BACKWARDS. SO THAT WAY THEY CAN KEEP THAT BACKYARD. SO I'VE SAID A LOT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? OH I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. YEAH I'D LIKE TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE CANAL BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING FOR SURE. JUST THROWING ALL THE IDEAS OUT THERE. YEAH. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FENCE OR A WALL ALONG THAT CANAL. UNFORTUNATELY. I MEAN, PERSONALLY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS ACTUALLY A BRIDGE. SO 
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SCHOOL AGE KIDS COULD JUST WALK TO SCHOOL IF THEY DO GO TO THAT SCHOOL. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SWAY WE HAVE WITH THE CANAL COMPANY THERE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THEIR DEAL THERE. SO A I PERSONALLY YEAH I'D LIKE TO SEE A, A WALL OR AT LEAST A FENCE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. 
          FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT I THINK I AGREE. QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF. I KNOW WE HAVE A A PLAN IN PLACE FOR NEW CANAL TRAIL SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. IS THIS CANAL PART OF THAT? IT'S NOT IT'S NOT. AND SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE COULD ALWAYS APPROVE THE THING WITH THE CONDITION OF CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL LOOKING AT ADDING A SIX FOOT HIGH WALL OR FENCE, I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP ADDRESS THAT CONCERN. WHEN IT COMES TO THE EASEMENT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT HAS TO BE DEALT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THAT. YEAH, I JUST THINK BECAUSE IT'S FOLLOWS THE SAME RULES AS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. I MEAN, IN ITS OWN IN PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WELL, HOW DO YOU QUANTIFY THAT? WHAT DOES THE FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEAN? I JUST HAVE A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT MEANS, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S JUST A SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE PUTTING THE DEVELOPERS PUTTING IN LIKE AN EIGHT STORY TALL TOWER IN THERE. 
          YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN QUANTIFY BY FEEL, BUT HAVING LITTLE FAMILIES IN TOWNHOMES NEXT TO DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT PROBABLY ALSO HAVE LITTLE KIDS SEEMS ABOUT THE SAME FEEL TO ME. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. COMMISSIONER. I JUST, IF I MAY ADD, I DO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN ADD SOME CONDITIONS, LIKE FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE GOING FORWARD TO COUNCIL. I DO BELIEVE, THOUGH, YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO ALTER WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS FROM STAFF JUST ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH, I EXCUSE ME, A COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT THE BASKETBALL COURT NOT BEING BIG ENOUGH FOR. PULLING IT BACK OUT. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AT WHAT POINT DOES THE FIRE CHIEF PRESUMABLY THEY HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THIS. AND AS THAT HAPPENED YET, OR AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT HAPPEN? AS I MENTIONED, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH STAFF REVIEW. THAT STAFF INCLUDES FIRE, POWER, WATER, SEWER, PUBLIC WORKS, THE CITY ENGINEER. SANITATION AND THEN OF COURSE, PLANNING STAFF. 
          SO DURING THE PRE-DEVELOPMENT MEETING, I BELIEVE THE FIRE CHIEF IS ACTUALLY THE ONE WHO RECOMMENDED THAT DESIGN FOR THIS PLAN. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE USING THE FIRE APPARATUS TRUCK. IT WOULD JUST BE A NORMAL FIRE TRUCK. THEY ONLY USE THAT IF IT'S OVER A CERTAIN HEIGHT. IF STRUCTURES ARE OVER 30FT, I BELIEVE IT IS. OKAY, COOL. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. IF I MAY, I'LL JUMP IN HERE AT THIS POINT. AS A GENERAL RULE, I UNDERSTAND AND HEAR THE AUDIENCE ANGST WITH RESPECT TO WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO BE GROWING PAINS OF THIS CITY. WE SEE THEM VIRTUALLY EVERY MEETING THAT WE HAVE. THE CITY IS GROWING. MANAGING GROWTH IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT, AND I THINK TO JUST PUT IN A PLUG FOR ELECTIONS. WE NEED TO HAVE CITY COUNCILS THAT ARE SENSITIVE TO SOLUTIONS THAT ENABLE US TO MANAGE GROWTH AND. I THINK. IN THE PAST AND AGAIN, BEING A PART OF PAST CITY ADMINISTRATION, I THINK A LOT OF THE PAST ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE NOT ANTICIPATED THE TYPE OF GROWTH THAT WE SEE NOW. SO I, I UNDERSTAND THAT ANGST. NOW, HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT. WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY. THE TERMS OF PROVISIONS OF NUMBER ONE, THE 
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ZONING ORDINANCE. AND NUMBER TWO, THE FINDING THAT IT IS THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO THAT IS THE TIME WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE TYPE OF ISSUES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED HERE. OUR ROLE AS A COMMISSION IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND B WHETHER OR NOT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE. WE DO NOT, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN A FREEWHEELING. CONSIDERATION OF MANY ISSUES THAT ARE NOT CONTAINED WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS I WANT TO QUOTE, THE FOUNDING FATHERS WISH I COULD REMEMBER WHICH ONE. WE ARE A GOVERNMENT OF LAWS AND NOT A GOVERNMENT OF MEN, MEANING THAT WE MEASURE OUR CONSIDERATION BY THE LAWS WE HAVE AND BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE HAVE BEFORE US A RECOMMENDATION OR A RENEWAL, A REVIEW BY THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, BY THE STAFF THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PLANNING ZONING. AND SO I WOULD BE LOATH TO BEGIN IMPOSING CARTE BLANCHE, AD HOC CONDITIONS THAT A WERE NOT EVER PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. AND THE APPLICANT HAS NEVER BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS AND RESOLVE THOSE ON AN AD HOC BASIS. SO I AS I SIT HERE, MY INCLINATION IS TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          APPROVE PUD, AS IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED PRIMARILY BASED UPON THE. RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF, THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S MY FEELING. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? NO. I'LL JUST SAY I APPRECIATE MAYBE BEING BROUGHT BACK DOWN TO EARTH ON THE NATURE OF OUR DISCUSSION. SOMETIMES I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT WE APPRECIATE AN ACTIVE AND INVOLVED PUBLIC. WHEN YOU GET THESE NOTICES AND YOU DO SEE THINGS HAPPENING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT AND SPEAK TO THESE THINGS, WHEN WE MAYBE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER VERSUS WHAT WE'RE NOT, IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HEAR YOU. IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THESE THINGS. IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER WHEN WE MAKE THESE APPROVALS. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS TAKEN THE TIME TO HAVE THE TIME TO COME AND TAKE THE TIME TO SPEAK TO US. WE DO HEAR YOU, BUT IT'S, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU BRING UP ARE NOT NECESSARILY THINGS THAT CAN GO INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL. SO I APPRECIATE THAT REMINDER FROM THE GENTLEMAN TO MY RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CANTON. YEAH, I'M KIND OF AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE SPECTRUM. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS AND THE CONSUMERS WHO RESIDE IN THIS AREA. AND THERE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS WITH THE PROJECT. I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN RUBBER STAMP SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE THAT'S WITH THE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING ORDINANCE. I KNOW THAT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. BUT I JUST FEEL THAT WE NEED TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE MORE. I DRIVE, I DRIVE A CERTAIN ROUTE TO WORK ALL THE TIME, AND I PASS THOSE BIG APARTMENT BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THESE HUGE SIGNS THAT SAY. NOW FOR RENT. AND IT'S JUST TO ME, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE OVERCROWDING. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. COMMISSIONER. I KNOW YOU'RE NEW. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? OKAY. 
          YEP. ANY FINAL THOUGHTS? YEAH, I. I ECHO. WELL, FIRST OFF, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE 
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COMMENTS WE YOU'VE HEARD HERE. BUT I DO BELIEVE IT IS OUR JOB AS A PLANNING COMMISSION. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS BEEN WRITTEN WITH FULL PUBLIC INPUT. AND IT IS A IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT. THERE IS ROOM FOR. IN FUTURE, BUT BUT PRESENT TIME. I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A BASIS TO. DENY THIS. IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO DECIDE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO RENT THEM. 
          IT'S IT'S COST EFFECTIVE. OUR JOB IS TO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT. DOES MEET THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND SO I'M GOING TO WE'VE BEEN ASSURED THAT THIS ONE DOES. AND THAT DOESN'T NEGATE YOUR THE VALUE OF YOUR COMMENTS. AND AND I ALSO DO APPRECIATE THAT. THIS PUBLIC INPUT AND AS COMMISSIONER STORIES THAT WE HEAR THIS AT EVERY MEETING, WE HEAR SIMILAR SORTS OF COMMENTS AND. THE CITY IS GROWING AND IT'S IT'S EASY TO NOT LIKE THAT, BUT IT IS IT'S A FACT OF LIFE, OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. I, I DON'T SEE A REASON. NOT FOR US NOT TO APPROVE THIS RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS DOES GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THEIR APPROVAL. SO YOU DO HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND CITY COUNCIL. AND SO AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT OKAY. OKAY. 
          WELL I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO MAKE A MOTION, AM I OKAY. WELL THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT WE. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR WILLOWS PLACE TOWNHOMES, LOT SEVEN AND A PORTION OF LOTS FOUR AND SIX, WITH THE CONDITION THAT WE. HOW DO I WANT TO WORD THIS WITH THE CONDITION OF. ADDING A SIX FOOT WALL OR FENCE ON THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY ALONG THE CANAL? DOES THAT WORK? OKAY, I'M ACTUALLY SORRY, COMMISSIONER. I DO WANT TO VERIFY. I DO BELIEVE THAT IT ACTUALLY HAS TO BE VOTED ON AS IS FIRST AND THEN. OH, JUST THE THE THE LIKE THE CONDITION I BELIEVE SO AS RECOMMENDED VOTE ON IF IF NOT PASSED AS IF NOT PASSED AS RECOMMENDED. SOMEBODY CAN MAKE THE MOTION TO HAVE IT ALTERED. ALTERED TO BE HAVE THOSE CONDITIONS OKAY. AND IT HAS BEEN THE COMMISSION'S COMMON PRACTICE TO JUST ADD CONDITIONS TO A RECOMMENDATION THAT HAS BEEN ACCEPTABLE IN THE PAST. BUT I OKAY, I COULD BE MIXING THIS UP WITH HOW THEY DO THINGS IN CITY COUNCIL AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON WHERE IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE COMMISSION TO JUST ADD BE ABLE TO ADD TO THEIR RECOMMENDATION. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY THEN WOULD ON THOSE ON THAT NOTE, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND MY MOTION? YOUR MOTION IS MADE WITH THAT CONDITION. SO NOTED. YES. NO, SIR. SECOND OKAY. WELL THEN THE MOTION FAILED. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER KIND OF MOTION? SOMETHING? I'M THE BAD GUY AROUND HERE. I WOULD MOVE THAT. THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF THE PUD AS PRESENTED. TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE IT. 
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WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND THAT SECOND LIEU, A ROLL CALL VOTE? COMMISSIONER CANTU? NAY. 
          COMMISSIONER. PATRICK. HI. COMMISSIONER. SCOTT. HIGH. COMMISSIONER. HIGH. 
          COMMISSIONER. HIGH COMMISSIONER. STUART I. MOTION. ALL RIGHTY. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR NEXT ITEM. ACTUALLY, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR A WHILE. OH AM I ALLOWED TO JUST LET THAT HAPPEN OR DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT? OKAY. I'M JUST GOING TO LET IT HAPPEN. HOW ABOUT THAT? OKAY. WE WILL RETURN AT MINUTES LATE I GOT YAPPIN IF. YEAH, WE COULD HAVE THOSE WHO WANT TO CONTINUE CONVERSATION. 
          GO AHEAD AND GO OUTSIDE IN THE HALLWAY. BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THE 
          [2. PUD25-003: PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT for Sage Lakes. A Portion of the SW ¼  of the NE ¼ of the SE ¼ of Section 31, Township 3 North, Range 38 East. Located north  of Sage Lakes Boulevard, east of Cypress Creek, south of Sage Lakes Golf Course, and west  of N 5th East. ¹]
NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS LIKE ROUND TWO OF THE SAME THING. SO. SO. ALRIGHTY. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR SAGE LAKES. JUST THERE IN FAIRWAY ESTATES. 
          AND WE WILL FIRST HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU. NOT TURNED ON. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK QUITE A BIT TO COVER, BUT WE'LL GET THROUGH IT. THANK YOU. FOR THIS CONSIDERATION. SO A LOT OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH FAIRWAY STATES. 
          THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF DIVISIONS AND THINGS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, I WOULD IMAGINE WE'LL JUST JUMP RIGHT IN ON AUGUST 27TH. AND WE'VE WE'VE STRUCTURED THIS TO COVER A LOT OF THOSE, THAT FEEDBACK. WE ALSO HAD SOME FEEDBACK THAT CAME IN FROM STAFF, AND WE'VE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH SIMILAR THEMES. SO HOPEFULLY IT CAPTURES A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND THAT YOU'LL HEAR TODAY. HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS AGAIN, MAYBE NOT SATISFACTORY TO EVERYONE'S LIKING, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS IT EITHER WAY. SO ONE THING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS TO AND I'LL LET STAFF GO THROUGH THE ZONING. AS FAR AS THE MAPS, I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN HERE. I WASN'T SURE IF THEY WERE GOING TO PRESENT FIRST OR NOT, BUT AS FAR AS THIS IS CONCERNED, OOPS. APOLOGIES. AS FAR AS THIS IS, IT'S AN R-2 THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING. THERE'S 246 INDIVIDUAL TOWNHOME UNITS, NOT A PART OF THE PUD, BUT RELATED IS 74 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AROUND THE PUD. I JUST THERE'S SOME CONTEXT OF WHERE THAT WILL COME UP AND ALL THE UNITS WILL BE FOR SALE. WE'LL GET TO THE MENUS IN A MINUTE, BUT WE MEET THE THRESHOLD. AND ALSO, SINCE THIS IS AN INFILL PIECE, WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE ACCESS. CERTAINLY SOME OF IT IS EXISTING. WE'RE HAVING TO BRING QUITE A BIT IN CURRENTLY ON SAGE LAKES BOULEVARD, AND WE'VE ALSO INSTALLED A BRIDGE. STAFF WAS PROBABLY HEARD IT 500 TIMES THAT YOU GET A CEO BEFORE YOU GET A BRIDGE. SO THE BRIDGE IS IN AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE ROAD. WE PROBABLY OWE EVERYONE LISTENING HERE A CAR WASH OR TWO. WE APOLOGIZE FOR DIRT, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART ISN'T PART OF CONSTRUCTION. BUT WE'VE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK ALREADY TO DATE AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOES AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL BE COMING AND BE WRAPPING UP HERE SHORTLY. ONE THING THAT WE HEARD IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WAS ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE IMAGINE IF DOCUMENT AND GOING THROUGH THAT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, TO TO ALL OF YOUR POINTS ABOUT CAPTURING WHAT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A BIG VIEW OR A VISION OF WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE HAPPEN WITHIN THE CITY. I DON'T NECESSARILY I'M NOT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, SO I CAN'T DICTATE THOSE THINGS. I CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE THE CONDITIONS AS THEY LIE IN THE FIELD AND WORK WITHIN THAT, THOSE RESTRICTIONS. 
          THIS IS A MIXED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FROM AN R-2 PERSPECTIVE. SOME OF THE IF IF INITIATIVES, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IS INSTEAD OF SPRAWLING OUTWARD, IT'S DESIGNATING CERTAIN AREAS AND HAVING THOSE AREAS BE MORE COMPACT. THAT THEN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 
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IDEA THAT THEY TALK ABOUT AGING IN PLACE, WHERE PEOPLE CAN BE WITHIN SOME COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVE TO MOVE DIFFERENT AREAS AND NEW GROCERY STORES AND NEW WHATEVER, WHEREVER THEY'RE AT, THEY CAN STAY IN AGE IN THAT AREA, WHETHER THEY GO START IN A STARTER HOME, GO UP MAYBE IN MIDDLE AGES, AND THEN MAYBE GO BACK DOWN OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT THE CITY HAS OUTLINED AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY AS THEY LOOK AT THE GROWTH THAT THEY'VE HAD. AND CERTAINLY DURING COVID AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVING TO IDAHO, THERE WAS A IT SEEMS TO BE SOME INITIATIVE TO BE SMART ABOUT THAT GROWTH. SIMILARLY, YOU'LL FIND THAT THIS WAS ANNEXED IN 2019. SO EVERYONE WHO GOT NOTICES ABOUT THIS WITHIN THE THE DISTANCE OF THAT NOTICE THIS WAS ZONED R2 BEFORE THEY HAD HOMES OR BEFORE THEY DEVELOPED THOSE HOUSES. IT'S JUST I THINK IMPORTANT THERE'S AN ORDER OF OPERATIONS HERE. 
          AND SO THE R2 AND THERE'S R3 TO THE EAST OF THIS, THIS WAS ESTABLISHED WELL BEFORE ANYONE HAD A HOME. THAT'S JUST A FACT. IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY THAT THAT'S JUST TRUE, BUT THERE'S THERE'S SOME DENSITY. AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS BECAUSE THERE'S I'VE DONE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF PLACES, AND THERE'S RIGHT AND WRONG WAYS TO DO IT. I LIKE TO DO IT RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE AS YOU DEVELOP THINGS OUT THAT A CONCERN FROM EVERYBODY IS PROPERTY VALUES. IT'S CRIME, IT'S WELL DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOODS AND CONTINUITY. I, I THINK THAT THE CITY WILL GET EVEN MORE. WHAT WHAT'S HAPPENING A LOT OF COMMUNITIES NOW, THERE'S A LOT MORE WALKABILITY, A LOT MORE URBAN PLANNING. A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SUBURBAN AREAS CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE. BUT IT'S COMING. IT JUST HAS TO. AND SO I THINK THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST ITERATION OF THAT THAT YOU'LL SEE OVER TIME, UNLESS NEW PEOPLE COME IN AND CHANGE THE PLANS, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS ELECTED OFFICIALS. SO WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS? IMAGINE I HAVE HAS SAID THEY'VE SAID AGAIN THAT AGING IN PLACE. IT'S A KEY STRATEGY FOR IDAHO FALLS, WHERE RESIDENTS CAN DOWNSIZE WITHIN THE SAFE COMMUNITY, FOSTERING INTERGENERATIONAL CONNECTIONS AND REDUCING THE ECONOMIC AND EMOTIONAL COSTS OF MOVING, AND THAT THE CITY SHOULD SUPPORT IT. THE CHALLENGE, CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, IS AS FAR AS THIS FAIRWAY ESTATES GOES, THERE'S DIFFICULT CHOICES THAT THEY HAVE. DO THEY MAINTAIN LARGE HOUSES, DO THEY DOWNSIZE AND HAVE SOMEONE TAKE CARE OF THE YARD? THESE ARE JUST PARTS OF AGING. WHEN I HAD MY FOURTH CHILD, IT'S LIKE THREE BEDROOMS DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE. SO, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A THE REASON FOR ITS IN THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS LIKE THIS. AND AGAIN IF. OKAY, SO THREE MAJOR INITIATIVES THAT THEY HAD WAS DIVERSITY FOR THE LONG TERM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND RETAINING PEOPLE. IT SOUNDS LIKE PREVENTING OUTMIGRATION HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. AND SO THAT'S CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM. 
          RIGHT SIZING WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES AND ALSO BALANCING THE HOUSING MIX. I'M EVEN SEEING THIS IN OTHER AREAS WHERE IT MAY BE ZONED FOR FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE BEST THING. JUST TO PUT QUARTER ACRE LOTS AND JUST 150, 200 OF THEM ARE ALL THE SAME. SO NOW PEOPLE ARE DOING WHAT, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT OR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE A MIX OF, SAY, 2 OR 3 PRODUCT TYPES, BUT YOU MAINTAIN YOUR SAME AMOUNT OF DENSITY. ALSO, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS SINCE THE CITY IS THE ONE DICTATING THESE, THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CERTAINLY IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY OF OR THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY IS COHESIVE. WELL, CERTAINLY HERE. 
          MANY PEOPLE'S OPINIONS ON THAT TODAY, AND THAT'S MERITED AND THAT'S EVERYONE'S OPINION. I THINK THAT THE THREE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE, YOUNG FAMILIES STARTING OUT, ESTABLISHED HOUSEHOLDS DOWNSIZING AND AGING IN PLACE. I THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU'RE NEAR A GOLF COURSE. AND I IMAGINE THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOWNSIZING, WHO WANT TO BE NEAR A GOLF COURSE, AND MAYBE THEY HAVE GOLF CART, AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY A YOUNG FAMILY LIKE THE LAST ONE. THEY MAY BE DOWNSIZING AND AGING IN PLACE AS FAR AS MAYBE THEY'RE RETIRING AND THEY WANT TO BE NEAR GOLF OR, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE TRAILS AND WALKABILITY, THAT KIND OF THING. SO I GO THROUGH ALL THAT JUST TO SAY, BECAUSE THIS THE APPROACH THAT WE HAVE HERE, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO DO A PUD BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY ZONED R2. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. PEOPLE WERE VOCAL 
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ABOUT US HAVING TOO MUCH DENSITY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT WE'RE LIKE PULLING BACK QUITE A BIT. WE'RE DOING 94 LESS UNITS THAN WE COULD. IT'S ZONED FOR 17 UNITS PER ACRE. WE'RE PROPOSING LESS THAN 12. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND THAT'S THAT GRAPHICS. IT'S NOT 13.6 AND 11.3. I UPDATED IT BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THIS ONE. AND SO IT'S IT'S QUITE A BIT QUITE A BIG DIFFERENCE. AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUD REQUIRES A LOT MORE IF YOU IT'S A HIGHER STANDARD. IT'S A, IT'S A BETTER DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE AMENITIES. YOU HAVE OPEN SPACE, YOU HAVE CONNECTIVITY. YOU HAVE THINGS THAT IN OUR TWO ZONE WOULD NOT REQUIRE. AND R2 WOULD JUST BE LIKE SARDINES. JUST THROW THEM IN THERE AND IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT A GREAT AMENITIZED AREA. NOW IT STILL WORKS. IT'S STILL PART OF THE PLAN. IT COULD WORK. BUT OUR INTENT WITH PUD AND FOR THIS EXTRA EFFORT AND IT'S BEEN A LOT OF EXTRA EFFORT, IS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT'S BETTER FOR THE COMMUNITY. NOW, THE REASON WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE 74 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE NICER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS, YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN YOUR VALUES, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PRODUCT TYPES ARE ARE ARE VERY GOOD. THIS IS JUST A. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE THE OLD ONE. THIS IS THE SECOND JUST FOR ME. YEAH. SO THAT ONE. GOES. I HAVE A REALLY NICE GRAPHIC HERE THAT YOU CAN'T SEE. IT'S REALLY PRETTY AND OKAY, I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE. SO THIS IS I'LL JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE. SO THE PART ON THE SOUTH PART I HAVE A POINTER. LET'S SEE. SO IT'S ON PERRY STREET. POINTER IS SHOWN ON YOUR SECOND SCREEN. YEAH. THERE WE GO. OKAY. SO THIS ONE HERE IS DIVISION 26. THIS IS ALREADY BEEN A FINAL PLAT. IT'S ALREADY THIS IS WHY THE ROAD IS COMING IN. THE BRIDGE IS INSTALLED. THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS COMING IN. NOW OVER TO THE WEST. WE'RE NOT. THERE YOU GO. 
          THERE YOU GO. THE YELLOW HERE AND THE WHITE UP HERE. THESE TWO AREAS ARE ALREADY PRELIMINARILY PLATTED. SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO LIKE IT'S JUST MOVING THE FINAL PLAT WITH THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. SO THIS IS ALL, LIKE, ALREADY IN PLACE, AND THERE'S NO INTENT TO CHANGE THAT. THAT'S ALL KIND OF IN PLACE. AND IT'S IT'S THERE. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY HERE IS THIS PLANNED PUD NOW THE SAME THE SAME GROUP THAT'S DOING ALL OF THESE 74 HOMES IS ALSO. ENGAGED ON THESE TOWNHOMES. THIS IS THE SO THIS IS KIND OF A ZOOMED IN VERSION OF THAT PUD AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. SO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES. 
          BECAUSE OF CITY CODE. YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE THESE AMENITIES HERE WE HAVE TWO PLAYGROUNDS. WE HAVE A DOG PARK, A DOG PARK, A PAVILION AS WELL. AND THEN LATER ON, ACTUALLY IN THE SLIDES THAT KERRY HAS, WE HAVE WALKABLE WALKABILITY, LIKE WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE ROADS ARE TRAILS, ETC. YEAH, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT ONE, THAT'S YOUR. PDF OR A PDF OF YOUR. I APOLOGIZE. NO WORRIES, I'M INTRIGUED. I WANT TO SEE IT. YEAH, YEAH. THIS IS. I'LL SAY THE PDF OF THAT LOOKING AT. WHILE HE'S PULLING THAT UP I'LL JUST JUMP. I HOPE IT'S IN HERE. 
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I LIKE THIS CARRY ON THE SPOT. NOT JUST ME. YEAH. IS THAT. PERFECT? THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. THIS IS A PRETTY PICTURE. OKAY. THIS IS JUST LANDSCAPE PLAN. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S EASIER TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THIS IS VERSUS A 2D DIMENSION, BUT STILL 2D. BUT THERE'S SOME CONTEXT AND SOME COLOR HERE. SO BECAUSE OF CODE, WE HAVE A FEW RESTRICTIONS. WE CAN'T HAVE THE AROUND THE OUTSIDE THE, THE, THE BROWN ONES, THOSE BORDER STREETS. THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE FRONT OR REAR LOADED. SO THE AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD YOU WOULD JUST SEE THE DOOR FRONTS WITH STAIRS. AND THIS TIME OF YEAR HALLOWEEN DECORATIONS. AND IN THE BACK YOU WOULD SEE THE GARAGES. AND THEN SIMILARLY THE YELLOW UNITS HERE WOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE. 
          THOSE ARE FRONT LOADED. SO THOSE WOULD BE DRIVEWAYS WITH THE WITH THE DOORS. AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS OF THOSE SHORTLY. NOW JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, THIS IS A 3D MODEL. SO WE TOOK ALL OF THE MODELS OF THE ELEVATIONS, PUT THEM IN LANDSCAPE PLAN FROM A 3D MODEL, AND THEN ALSO THE ROADS BASED ON CITY RESTRICTIONS OR CITY STANDARDS. AND THIS IS LIKE WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO SEE WHEN YOU MARRY ALL OF THOSE 2D DIMENSIONS INTO A LIKE WHAT YOU'D BE IF YOU WERE STANDING ON THE CORNER. THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST. SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. NORTHWEST BOULEVARD. SO FOR CONTEXT, THAT WOULD BE RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CIRCLE THERE. OH, I APOLOGIZE ACTUALLY, THE INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE LOOKING TO THE NORTHWEST. AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE THE THE DOORS ON THE FRONT AND THEN OF COURSE LANDSCAPING. SIMILARLY THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF SAGE LAKES. 
          SO JUST TO KIND OF FURTHER UP ON THE INTERSECTION SO YOU CAN SEE THE PRODUCT TYPE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DETAILED ELEVATIONS. I PROMISED YOU MIGHT GET IT. THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING HERE AS FAR AS TOWNHOMES GO. AGAIN, YOU NEED TO KEEP VALUES UP BY PUTTING THE PRODUCT IN THE MARKET. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW FROM THAT SAME INTERSECTION LOOKING WEST. SO YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THE THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ACROSS THAT DON'T EXIST NOW, BUT WILL BE PART OF THE 74 UNITS THAT SINGLE FAMILIES WITH 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY WITH THESE TOWNHOMES ACROSS. THIS IS SIMILARLY LOOKING. THIS IS JUST NOT ELEVATED. IT'S DOWN AT GROUND LEVEL. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE FAMILIES HERE WITH YOUR RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN OF COURSE THE TOWNHOMES ON THE PUD TO THE TO THE NORTH. AND THEN THIS IS FURTHER BACK FROM THE INTERSECTION, AS IF YOU'RE DRIVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN WITH SINGLE FAMILY, YOUR SAGE LAKES BOULEVARD THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED NOW WITH TOWNHOMES ON THE FURTHEST EAST. I JUST FIND THAT HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME CONTEXT OF LIKE THE LEVEL OF FINISH. AND WE'LL GET TO SOME ELEVATIONS HERE SHORTLY. THIS IS THE SPECIFIC PARTS OF THE PUD. SO YOU'RE NOT APPROVING OR LOOKING TO APPROVE OR CONSIDER ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THIS. IT'S JUST SOME CONTEXT AROUND THE SINGLE FAMILY AROUND IT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS YOU KNOW, THE NON I, I WOULDN'T LOVE TO DO THIS BUT WE COULD IT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. THIS IS WHAT THE CITY CODE WOULD ALLOW US TO DO. AND THIS IS ABOUT THIS IS ABOUT 60 UNITS LESS. SO THIS IS ABOUT 30 OR 40 MORE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S 246 UP HERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND 
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SIDE YOU HAVE 246 AND THE PUD CONCEPT. AND THIS R-2 CONCEPT WITH THIS IS WITH TWO CAR GARAGE. THESE ARE ALL ALLEY LOAD. THIS IS ONLY GOING UP TO 13 UNITS PER ACRE. YOU'RE UP TO 265 OR 2. WHAT'S THAT SAY? I SAID I CAN'T SEE THAT. WELL DO SOMETHING. BUT WE'RE. BUT IF YOU DO 17 UNITS PER ACRE TIMES THIS DENSITY, THE 21.3 TIMES THE ACREAGE OF 21.7 MILLION 350 TOWNHOMES THAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON, YOU WOULD JUST DO IT. SO I JUST I'M EMPHASIZING THAT. SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T FINDING THE PARKING LOT AFTER. THIS IS THIS IS AGAIN THE PUD ADVANTAGE. IT'S A HIGHER STANDARD. IT'S A HIGHER BAR 25% OF THE OF THE OF THE OF THE ACTUAL LOTS. NOW IS GOING TO BE COMMITTED TO OPEN SPACE VERSUS JUST MORE UNITS, MORE LOTS. AGAIN WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH THIS. BUT THE AMENITIES THAT ARE HERE FOR CONSIDERATION AND NOW NOW THE ELEVATIONS, NOW THIS GROUP, THEY'RE THEY'RE A REGIONAL BUILDER. THEY'RE BASED OUT OF NORTHERN UTAH CALLED VISIONARY HOMES. THEY DO THIS ALL OVER. SO THEY'VE DONE IT IN A LOT OF PLACES, AND THEY'RE SCALING QUITE RAPIDLY IN DIFFERENT AREAS. THIS IS A FINISHED PRODUCT. YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THEY HAVE THEY DON'T LIKE TO PUT OUT. PRODUCT THAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN SOME MARKETS. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO CANNIBALIZE THEIR OWN MARKET. SO YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE LEVEL OF DETAIL FOR TOWNHOME, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE MAKE SURE THAT YOU STAY UP. THIS IS JUST A RENDERING OF IT SIMILARLY, BUT NOT A REAL ONE WITH SOME OF THE DIMENSIONS. THEY'RE USUALLY IN THE RANGE OF 18 TO 20 500FT■!S.T JUST KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE MODEL, DEPENDS IF IT'S AN END UNIT AND THESE KINDS OF THINGS. BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF SOME CONTEXT FOR IN THIS CASE THIS IS A FRONT. THIS IS A FRONT LOAD. AND THIS IS THE REAR LOAD THAT WE SAW IN THOSE 3D IMAGES. SO THIS IS THE ALLEY LOAD SO THAT IT'S IN THE BACK. THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT HAS THE REAR LOAD THE ALLEY LOAD. 
          AND SO AS YOU DRIVE DOWN YOU JUST SEE FRONT DOORS. AND THIS IS ANOTHER CASE HERE OF A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WITH THE ALLEY IN THE BACK HERE WITH ACCESS, AND THEN THE FRONT HERE WITH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OPEN SPACES ETC. THIS IS JUST AN ACTUAL PRODUCT THERE ON THE RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME SOME BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN FAIRWAY ESTATES CURRENTLY. THE INTENT IS TO MATCH A LOT OF THE STYLE AND DESIGN TO NOT TO NOT CREATE ANY VARIANCES. AND SO THAT'S THE IDEA OF A NUMBER OF THESE PRODUCTS. THEY HAVE SEVEN. 
          AND EACH ONE OF THOSE HAS FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES THAT THEY CAN DO. SO HERE YOU SEE FARMHOUSE TRADITIONAL CRAFTSMAN. YOU CAN SEE HOW AGAIN LEVEL OF DETAIL. AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO CUSTOM WORK FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED. THIS ISN'T LIKE A LOW BUDGET KIND OF PRODUCTION SITUATION. THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WELL MANUFACTURED HOMES. JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE. THE FAIRVIEW PRODUCT OR THIS IS THE BUT THE SUMMERWIND, THE REMINGTON. SO YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL OF DETAIL AND. THIS IS JUST A SOME OF THE AMENITIES I WOULD SAY AS FAR AS WALKABILITY, WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, TRAILS IF YOU WILL, SIDEWALKS AROUND THE WHOLE THING. BUT THEN WE HAVE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT VERY WELL OR I CAN'T THE, THE IS IT ORANGE MAYBE ORANGE THROUGH THE MIDDLE. THAT'S LIKE WALKING. SO THERE'S CONNECTIVITY THROUGH IT. AND THEN THE RED OF COURSE IS SIDEWALK. IT'S, YOU KNOW, CUSTOM BUT OR NOT CUSTOM. IT'S A CODE AROUND THE WHOLE THING. 
          SO I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CURRENTLY GO WALK THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE FIELDS, ETC. YOU KNOW, WE LIKE CONNECTIVITY. WE LIKE PEOPLE ENGAGING AND BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. NOW ON TO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WE'VE GOTTEN. YOU KNOW, FROM EMAILS WE'RE SENDING TO THE CITY AND SIMILARLY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, THE FIRST ONE IS THE TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE. SO I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE VERY END. IT'S WORTH PROBABLY JUST GOING THROUGH IT, BECAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE HEARD AT THE END HERE. WE DID A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND WHAT WE DID IS WE WANTED TO ESTABLISH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WAS REQUIRED. 
          SO WHAT WE DID IS THEY STUDIED TWO INTERSECTIONS, THE ONE THAT'S NOT IN YET, BUT THE THE BRIDGE IS IN HERE. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS FIFTH WEST AND BARBERO. SO ON BOTH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS, THEY THE WAY THE CITY DICTATES IT, AS YOU KNOW, IS LEVEL OF SERVICE ABOVE A D IS ACCEPTABLE. SO YOU HAVE IT'S BASED ON YOUR IT'S BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME YOU'RE WAITING 
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AT THAT INTERSECTION. SO A IS LESS THAN 10S D, ETC. SO THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEN YOU KIND OF FIGURE OUT, HEY, CAN WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING TO UPGRADE THIS? IN THIS CASE EXISTING TRAFFIC IS AS OF NOW, SO 2025. THEN THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT VARIABLES THAT THEY ADD IN AND THEY ADD A BACKGROUND LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE AREA WITH THE GROWTH RATE. AND THEN THE ACTUAL PROJECT. NOW THEY MADE THE THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS ALL BUILT IN THREE YEARS. BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF SCALE THAT IT'S ALL DONE SAY BY 2028. 
          THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT I MEAN EVERYONE IT JUST IT'S NOT REALISTIC. BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF OF THE AMOUNT OF THE COUNT. AND THEN OF COURSE, FIVE YEARS PAST THAT. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE THE 2025, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING HERE YOU'RE SEEING IS YOUR AM AND PM PEAKS YOUR SCORES AS NOW IT'S A B. SO IT'S ACCEPTABLE IN 2028 WITH A FULL PROJECT BUILD OUT YOU'RE STILL AT AN EIGHT. AND THEN IN 2033 YOU GET A C LEVEL. YOU'RE STILL ABOVE A D, WHICH IS STILL ACCEPTABLE EXCEPT ACCEPTABLE IN THE CITY. BUT THAT ALLOWS THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S PLANNED AROUND IT TO CONTINUE TO BE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE CITY STANDARDS. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO CR YOU AND THE NEIGHBORS WERE VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THIS THIS TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING TO ADVERSELY AFFECT THEM BECAUSE CURRENTLY THEY GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FIFTH WEST. THEY'RE SAYING THAT 20 TO 40% WILL GO OUT OF 100% OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE RIGHT THERE WILL. BUT OF THE WHOLE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, FAIRWAY ESTATES, THEY'RE SAYING BETWEEN 20 AND 40 WILL GO OUT DEPENDING IF THEY'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, OUT TO MAVERICK OR WHICHEVER WAY THE QUICKEST IS. ANYWAY. AND THESE ARE JUST SOME APPENDIX THINGS. SO ULTIMATELY THE THE TAKEAWAY FROM IT IS THAT EVEN WITH A FULL BUILD OUT AND WITH EVERYTHING AROUND IT, THAT THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED BEYOND THE WHAT THEY'VE WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN, APPARENTLY. SO BACK TO AND THAT'S WHAT THIS KIND OF CAPTURES. I JUST WANT TO GET INTO SOME OF THE DETAILS SO PEOPLE SO EVERYONE CAN BE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICES AND THAT WITH THE FULL BUILD OUT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC ISSUES. SIMILARLY, AS FAR AS PROPERTY VALUES ARE CONCERNED. THIS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS VISIONARY HAS DONE THIS MANY TIMES. THEY LIKE TO HAVE MULTIPLE PRODUCTS. MATTER OF FACT, THEY EVEN LIKE WHEN THERE'S MULTIFAMILY. SO NOT TOWNHOMES, BUT LIKE REAL APARTMENTS. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THERE'S VIBRANCY AND THERE'S ACTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STUDIES OUT THERE. AND THE MARKETPLACE ITSELF, THERE'S VERTICAL BUILDERS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR MULTIPLE PRODUCTS, AND THEY'RE NOT SEEING IT CANNIBALIZE THEIR VALUES. THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN WE SPOKE, HE TALKED ABOUT MARKETABILITY. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT, BUT I BUT THERE'S NO ADVERSE EFFECTS FROM WHAT THEY'RE SEEING WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING PRODUCTS TO THE MARKET. THEY WOULD DO 74 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH TOWNHOMES NEXT TO IT IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WORKED. SIMILARLY, SAFETY, CRIME PREVENTION. I THINK ONE THING OWNERSHIP REALLY MATTERS IN THIS CASE, THIS IS ALL FOR SALE PRODUCT. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHO'S GOING TO BUY IT. ANYONE COULD, I GUESS. BUT AS WE TALKED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, IF SOMEONE'S LOOKING FOR A, YOU KNOW, A AN INVESTMENT, IT PROBABLY BETTER OPTIONS THAN THAN THIS. I CAN'T MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION. BUT MANAGING INVESTMENTS, I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT BE LOOKING FOR NEW PRODUCT BECAUSE THE HOME BUILDER IS LOOKING FOR THE MOST THEY CAN GET OUT OF IT. AND SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THAT. AND SO THESE PRODUCTS ARE ALL FOR SALE. AND THEN I THINK THE SAFETY IS A BIG PART. WE HAVE REALLY GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO DESIGN THIS THE RIGHT WAY WITH THE CODE IN MIND. SIMILARLY WITH THE OPEN SPACES, THE AMENITIES, THE LIGHTS, THE DESIGN, THE FLOW, WE WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL HELP NOT CREATE THESE AREAS THAT COULD BE DARK OR, YOU KNOW, WHERE THINGS COULD HAPPEN THAT AREN'T VISIBLE TO THE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WE'VE BEEN VERY THOUGHTFUL WITH THE BUFFERS. AGAIN, WE'VE TAKEN DOWN 94 LESS UNITS AND BEEN PER PRESCRIBED WITH THE CODE. AND I THINK A REALLY IMPORTANT THING IS ARCHITECTURAL COHESION BETWEEN THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THAT BLEND INTO THE TOWNHOMES, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME DESIGN, THE SAME ELEMENTS, SAME ARCHITECT, SAME BUILDER. I THINK THAT IT KIND OF CREATES 
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THIS COHESIVE ESTHETIC FOR THE FOR THE AREA, WHICH I THINK HELPS EVERYONE IN THE AREA. 
          YEAH. AND THEN IT'S JUST REALLY COMES BACK TO, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, MATCHING UP WHAT WE HAVE. AND DOES IT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? WE BELIEVE IT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR. AND THAT'S IT SEEMS TO US HAVING SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN IMAGINE IF IT FEELS LIKE THIS IS KIND OF WHAT THEY BUILT THAT THING FOR. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF OPINIONS FOR SURE. YEAH. SO WE WE CERTAINLY REQUEST APPROVAL THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE AT THIS POINT. ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. NOT NOT A A SPECIFIC QUESTION. BUT I'LL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE. THIS PROPOSAL CONTEMPLATES TOWNHOMES. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT IS A TOWNHOME. AND YOU'VE MENTIONED SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT COME WITH USE OF THE THE PUD CONCEPT COMBINED WITH THE R-2 ZONE. BUT I THINK THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING IS WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TOWNHOME AND JUST A MULTI-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING. COULD YOU ELABORATE A BIT ON THAT? I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT IS A TOWNHOME. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING THAT MAY BE ATTACHED. THAT IS DEEPER. IT'S NOT DEEP DISTRICT. 
          IT'S FEE SIMPLE. SO IT'S YOUR FOOTPRINT THAT YOU OWN. IN THIS CASE, THERE BEING HOA MAINTAINS COMMON SPACE. AND YOU PURCHASED THAT THAT ATTACHED UNIT AND IT'S YOURS VERSUS A MULTIFAMILY THAT IS OWNED BY AN ENTITY THAT IS, YOU KNOW, A LEASED PRODUCT OR CONDO COULD BE TECHNICALLY TO SEE THOSE RIGHT NOW. SO THE THE MANDATE IS IN A PUD PERSPECTIVE WITH AMENITIES TIED TO TOWNHOMES. YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO CERTAIN UNIT COUNTS. THE PUD IS, HEY, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME AMENITIES THAT ACCOMMODATE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN YOUR COMMUNITY. I'M NOT SURE IF I ANSWERED THE QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S HELPFUL. THANKS. COMMISSIONER. 
          YOU'VE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO EXPLAIN TO US THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR YOUR PUD CONCEPT VERSUS WHAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE R-2 ZONE. ARE THERE ANY THINGS IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD THAT REQUIRED PUD SETUP VERSUS A VOLUNTARY MOVE ON YOUR PART. NO. OKAY. I MEAN IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A BETTER PRODUCT TYPE. YOU HAVE REAR, YOU HAVE ALLEY LOADED AND FRONT LOADED. 
          IT'S JUST A BETTER I MEAN WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN SAGE LAKES, YOU DON'T LOOK AT A BUNCH OF I WOULDN'T WANT TO LOOK AT TOWN AND TOWN DOWNTOWN GARAGES. SO IT'S IT'S REALLY I MEAN, WE I THINK ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS, LIKE WHAT WHAT STANDS UP, GOOD DESIGN STANDS UP. AND SO I THINK THAT HELPS WITH THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. WELL, THEN I GUESS WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HEAR FROM CITY STAFF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSION. IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION. AND I WANT TO THANK JARED FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GO THROUGH HIS DESIGN AND AND DISCUSSION. WE'RE HERE FOR THE REQUEST OF ACTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR SAGE LAKES PUD TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO COVER THAT. LOOKING. SO THE MAIN DIFFERENCE I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE, THEY'VE ALREADY GONE INTO FAIRLY GOOD DEPTH IN THE LAST IN THIS DISCUSSION AND THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT LIKE. THE APPLICANT HAS SAID. THE BRIDGE WILL BE HAS BEEN BUILT. THE ROAD WILL BE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE ANY CODES ARE GIVEN IN ANY OF THESE FUTURE AREAS, AS WELL AS THIS AREA IS R-2 VERSUS THE PREVIOUS PUD WAS IN R-1, RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENTIATIG THING BETWEEN THE PUDS. THE THINGS THE OTHER THING TO 
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CONTEMPLATE IS THAT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PREVIOUS PUD WAS IN THIS YELLOW AREA, WHICH IS SUBURBAN, AND THIS IS IN THE GENERAL URBAN, THE ORANGE AREA. AND SO AS THIS, AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS AND LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, GENERAL URBAN WAS BROUGHT INTO THIS AREA AND CONTEMPLATED IN THE IMAGINEM, JUST BRIEFLY, THE THE LET'S SEE, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M ON THE NEXT SLIDE TO SHOW THIS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE A GREAT SLIDE TO SHOW, BUT THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN 2019, WITH AN INITIAL ZONING OF R2 AND R3. A. SO IF WE GO BACK TO THE ZONING THIS ON TIME OF ENTRY INTO THE CITY, ENTERED WITH THESE TWO ADDITIONAL ZONES OUTSIDE OF THE REST OF THE AREA THAT WAS SUBURBAN. AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE FROM THE TIME THAT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY. SO REQUESTS FOR MODIFICATION. THE TOWNHOMES ARE INTENDED TO BE PLATTED INDIVIDUALLY, REQUIRING VARIANCES TO THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, SITE WIDTH AND SETBACKS, SO THAT EACH UNIT CAN BE ON ITS OWN LOT. RIGHT. AND AND THAT WAS WHAT COMMISSIONER STEUER ASKED THE APPLICANT ABOUT. SO STAFF COMMENTS THAT FOR THE PUD WAS SUBMITTED. SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE TECHNICALITIES. ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2025. AND A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING TOOK PLACE AUGUST 27TH, 2025, AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 11 6-8 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. THE PROS. SO WE'VE ALREADY COVERED THIS. THE PROPOSED PUD CONSISTS OF 246 UNITS ON APPROXIMATELY 21.7 ACRES OF LAND. THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN EACH BUILDING VARIES FROM 4 TO 6 UNITS THAT HAVE A TWO STORY TOWNHOME FOR THE UNIT INCLUDES TWO CAR GARAGES, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE PARKING ROLES FOR RESIDENTIAL. ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL AND GAS. THIS ONE. SO THIS MIGHT BE THE BEST TO SEE THAT. AND THEN WE BOUNCE BACK. JUST TRYING TO FIND THE ONE THAT HAS THE BEST ROAD NETWORK HERE. THE PUD INCLUDES THE EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING PUBLIC ROADS, SPECIFICALLY CARRARO DRIVE, WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR, AND THEN CYPRESS CREEK, A LOCAL TO THE NORTH, AND SAGE LAKES BOULEVARD, A RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR, WILL RUN ALONG THE SOUTH OF THE DEVELOPMENT, CONNECTING THE PROJECT ONTO FIFTH EAST. AND THEN WE HAVE WHISPER ROCK LANE. WILL BE A NEW LOCAL ROAD. CONSTRUCTION ALONG THE NORTH AND PRIVATE STREET SYSTEM WILL ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE INTERNAL UNITS. SO IT'S. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THIS WILL BE THE 70 FOOT. THIS WILL BE A 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEN THIS WILL BE A 60 FOOT. YEAH. THIS ONE WILL BE THE 60 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY HERE. AND THOSE WILL ACTUALLY GO OVER ONE MORE RIGHT HERE. THAT'LL BE SO THOSE WILL ALL BE CITY PUBLIC STREETS AND THEN EVERYTHING INTERNAL WILL WILL BE PART OF THE PUD AND WILL BE PRIVATE STREETS. THE PUD. SO AS JARED STATED, THE PD INCLUDES BOTH FRONT AND REAR LOADED TOWNHOME PRODUCTS. REAR LOADED PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN PLACED FACING THE PUBLIC STREET, CREATING A MORE INVITING STREETSCAPE TO THE SINGLE UNIT DWELLINGS ACROSS THE STREET. ALL AREAS OF THE PD NOT COVERED BY BUILDING OR DRIVE AREA WILL BE LANDSCAPED. IN ADDITION TO THE LANDSCAPING, THE DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES SEVERAL COMMON AREAS AND FIVE AMENITIES, INCLUDING A PLAYGROUND, TWO TWO PLAYGROUNDS, PAVILION THAT'S GOING TO BE 12 BY 12 WITH PICNIC TABLES AND TWO DOG PARKS. THE PROPOSED PD MEETS THE 25% LANDSCAPE, COMMON SPACE. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT HAS HAS EXPRESSED THAT THESE 
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AMENITIES WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR USE BY OUTSIDE OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE SAGE LAKE DEVELOPMENT. FOR THE FAIRWAY ESTATES DEVELOPMENT. THE R-2 ZONE HAS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 17 UNITS PER ACRE. R-3 ZONE HAS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 35 UNITS PER ACRE. SO LET ME JUST GO BACK. THAT'S THERE'S A LITTLE BIT. OF R-3 A IN THIS PUD. AND THAT IS THE BLUE AREA HERE ON THIS EDGE THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD. I MEAN, THEY COULD BUILD APARTMENTS THERE. 
          THEY'VE CHOSEN NOT TO. THEY COULD PUSH THE, THE, THE DENSITY IN THAT TO 35 UNITS PER ACRE. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. AND THEN AGAIN. THE PROPOSED PUD HAS A DENSITY OF 11 UNITS PER ACRE. TWO PARKING STALLS ARE REQUIRED FOR EACH DWELLING UNIT. STAFF RECOMMENDS SO STAFF RECOMMENDATION STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PD AND FIND THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ZONING ORDINANCE PD REQUIREMENTS AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUESTED PD. SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM LATER OR NOW. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, WELL NOW WE ARE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE MEETING. SAME STANDARDS AS BEFORE. JUST A GOOD LEVEL OF DECORUM. PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YEAH, JUST STATE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE AND WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSES, HOPEFULLY ONE TIME I DON'T MESS THAT UP. SO YEAH, I GUESS WE CAN GET STARTED WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO YOU GUYS ALL THIS STUFF UP? HELLO, MY NAME IS MIKE. AM I LIVE AT 416 SADDLE ROCK LANE, WHICH IS RIGHT IN THE SHADOW OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE SEE HOW WE GO FORWARD OR BACKWARDS. OKAY. THIS WILL WORK. I JUST PUSHED A LITTLE UP HERE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER'S PRESENTATION. GLAD THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH NOT JUST GO TO THE MAXIMUM AND GET EVERYTHING THEY POSSIBLY CAN. LOOKS VERY NICE. 
          WITH RENDERINGS. HOWEVER, THERE'S A CONCERN GOING THROUGH THE GENERAL REGULATIONS THAT WAS NICELY POINTED OUT. THE MAIN PURPOSE HERE IS ZONING IS TO PROVIDE HEALTH, SAFETY, PEACE, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE FOR THE CITY. YOU'RE TAKING A GENERAL R-1 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING HOUSE. I GUESS I SAID THAT RIGHT. ENVIRONMENT. YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SAFE PLACE AREA AND YOU'RE THROWING A HUGE, DENSE MARBLE OF HOUSES IN WHAT EQUATES TO BE THE CENTER. 
          ENZYMES. AND I'LL JUST GO THROUGH SOME NUMBERS. THESE ARE NOT EXACT, BUT THEY ARE REPRESENTATIVE. SO BASED ON THEIR PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, IT'S 11.3 UNITS PER ACRE. OKAY. 
          USING GOOGLE MAPS AND OUTLINING EVERYTHING FROM EDGEWOOD DRIVE EAST, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 200 UNITS THAT HAVE YET TO BE BUILT OR YET HAVE TO BE BUILT BASED ON THE ACREAGE. IT GOES UP TO 2.7 UNITS PER ACRE. IF YOU COMPARE THAT TO 11.3, 11.3 IS FOUR TIMES THE DENSITY IN LESS THAN ONE THIRD OF THAT AREA, AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS WE GO FROM AN A TO A, A, C. OKAY. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT. WHAT ABOUT THIS LITTLE AREA RIGHT OVER HERE JUST TO THE EAST, THAT HAS THE SAME SPACE TO ADD ANOTHER 340 TO 250 UNITS. WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO THE TRAFFIC AND THE LIVABILITY AND THE SAFETY OF THE SAINSBURY'S AREA? WHEN THAT GETS DEVELOPED YEARS INTO THIS? SO I WAS GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, 
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STATEMENTS HERE IN THE, IN THE REGULATIONS. IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD ALLOW FOR IMPROVED LIVING ENVIRONMENT, THROWING 120% MORE LIVING UNITS IN AN AREA GOING EDGEWOOD EAST THAT WOULD MOST LIKELY USE THAT THAT EXIT TO GO OUT ON FIFTH EAST DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE. AN IMPROVED LIVING ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS UNDER W ITEM ONE, LETTER A. IT ALSO HAS THE ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM YOU'RE GOING FOUR TIMES THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. AND I HAD A FRIEND THAT HAD A SAYING. HE SAID, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD. THAT IS NOT BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THE CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOOD. NOW, IF WE LOOK AT THE MAP HERE, IF I CAN USE THE POINTER, THIS AREA UP HERE, FIFTH EAST AND 65TH NORTH, BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN, THERE IS NOTHING BUT MULTIPLE UNIT DWELLINGS. IT IS BEING BUILT ON ITS OWN STANDALONE MULTIPLE UNIT DWELLINGS. THAT IS A CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, AREA THAT'S BEING BUILT. WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, ALTHOUGH AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK GREAT. YOU'RE DROPPING THAT HUGE NUGGET OF HOUSES FOUR TIMES CONSISTENT DENSITY IN A VERY SMALL AREA IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A GOOD IMPACT ON LIVABILITY OR THE TRAFFIC. LET'S SEE HERE, ONE OF THE OTHER UNDER ITEM FIVE, ARRANGEMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW SHALL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD WHILE COMPATIBLE AND LOOKS. YES, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPATIBILITY AND A LOT OF. ONE OF THE MAIN COMPATIBILITIES IS POPULATION DENSITY AND TRAFFIC. ONE OF THE PREVIOUS THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT, WE TALKED ABOUT PEAK HOURS OF ONE TRIP PER HOUR PER UNIT, THEN MAX TIME. THAT'S 250 MORE CAR VEHICLES HEADING OUT TO FIFTH MOST LIKELY. AND THAT ROAD, FIFTH EAST IS STILL 55 MILES AN HOUR. NO. STOP THAT. IMAGINE HOW MANY ACCIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE WITH THAT MANY VEHICLES TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE AT PEAK TIMES. 
          KIND OF SCARY. AND THE LAST THING IS, I'M NOT SURE HOW WHAT THIS APPLIES TO. SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. UNDER THERE'S PUBLIC SERVICE FACILITY. IT'S ITEM X THAT SAYS THE ACTIVITY CARRIED ON MUST NOT GENERATE AN AMOUNT OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF THIS PUD OR IF THAT'S FOR DEVELOPMENT. SOMEBODY CAN MAYBE PROMPT ME TO PHONE A FRIEND. BUT AGAIN, THAT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE. AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD. SO THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING INFILL. THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND THERE. THEY HAVE CARTE BLANCHE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. THEY CAN PUT IN LOTS OF ROADS AND LOTS OF SINGLE SEPARATE HOUSES TO BE CONTIGUOUS WITH THE REST OF SAGE LAKES. I COME FROM THE SEATTLE AREA. I JUST MOVED HERE, YOU KNOW, ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO. AND THE DEVELOPMENT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS EQUIVALENT TO THE TO INVEST PROPERTY INVESTORS IS LIKE DROPPING A BIG BAG OF CRACKERS ON THE BEACH. THOSE SEAGULLS WILL FLOCK TO THAT BAG OF CRACKERS, JUST LIKE INVESTORS WILL FLOCK TO THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, BUY THEM UP AND RENT THEM OUT. YOU ARE THEN THEY ARE THEN CHARGING A PREMIUM BECAUSE IT'S AN INVESTMENT. THEY'RE PERFECTLY ALLOWED TO DO THAT BECAUSE FREE MARKET AND ALL THAT. BUT YOU'RE THEN PUTTING TOGETHER AN ENVIRONMENT THAT HARMS THE PEOPLE THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS SAY THEY'RE TRYING TO HELP. IT'S VERY COUNTERINTUITIVE. BUT AGAIN, THE SEATTLE AREA, I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND ALL YOU GET IS THREE, FOUR, FIVE PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER IN ONE UNIT TO AFFORD THE RENT, WHICH FAR EXCEEDS THE ESTIMATES OF ALL THE HOUSES. YOU ALSO HAVE WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT. WHERE'S OUR WATER? I KNOW THEY PROBABLY DONE SOME STUDIES, BUT HAVE THEY REALLY LOOKED AT WHAT THE WATER PRESSURE IS GOING TO DO WITH THAT? MANY MORE HOUSES, 120% MORE HOUSES IN LESS THAN ONE THIRD OF THAT HALF OF STAGE STAGE LAKES. THAT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE IMPACT ON WATER AND USAGE, ELECTRICITY, EVERYTHING. BACK TO THE NOTIFICATION. I DON'T LIVE WITHIN 300FT, BUT AT 
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THE CORNER OF WHERE AT THE END OF QUIVIRA THERE WAS NO SIGNAGE, NOTHING THAT SAID ABOUT THIS FURY. AND I APPRECIATE THE HEARING. AND AGAIN, THE DEVELOPER, FOR HIS COMMENTS OF HIS TIME PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. SO AGAIN, IT GETS DOWN TO JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD. THIS IS NOT AN INFILL SITUATION WHERE WE CAN STUFF 14 UNITS IN THIS VERY ODD SHAPED AREA. IT'S A WIDE OPEN AREA AND TO BE CONSISTENT FOLLOWING THE REGULATIONS, BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING SAGE LAKES AREA. THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT JUST DOESN'T FIT ZONED OR NOT. SO I JUST ASK FOR THAT TYPE OF CONSIDERATION IN THINKING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS NEXT PHASE GOES THROUGH AND THIS BLIGHT AREA, THEY SAID IN THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE WORK DOING THAT WENT FROM AN A TO A C. THEY HAVE THIS. IT'S GOING TO GO FROM A C, NOT TO A D TO AN F, UNLESS THE CITY CHANGES ITS REQUIREMENTS ON WHAT THE GRADING SYSTEM IS AND IT STILL COMES ABOVE THE LINE. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TODAY? WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. NOT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT JUST LIVE HERE, BUT THOSE OF YOU TRYING TO BUILD AND REMEMBER. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE LIKE A BIG BAG OF CRACKERS TO DEVELOPERS. THEY WILL FLOCK TO THIS, BUY THESE THINGS UP, RENT THEM OUT AND YOU THEN HARMING THE PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE INTENDING TO HELP BY DOING THIS. I WISH THERE WAS SOME WAY TO PREVENT THAT. BUT FREE MARKETS NEED TO DO IT. BUT I JUST THAT'S ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT THIS WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON, NOT ONLY THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT. THE HOUSES LOOK BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, UNITS. BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE IMPACT TO THE NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN, BUT THOSE THAT WILL END UP GETTING STUCK THERE, HAVING TO RENT THOSE ITEMS AT VERY CONSERVATIVE PRICES. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I THINK I GOT ALL MY PARTS. I'LL PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIVE THINGS I DON'T. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. TEST. TEST. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS AUSTIN CARTER AND I LIVE IN FAIRWAY ESTATES AT FIVE 506 INGLEWOOD DRIVE. MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN EARLY 2022, JUST BEFORE THE SHARP RISE IN MORTGAGE RATES. AND LIKE MANY OTHER YOUNG FAMILIES, WE WERE WEIGHING EVERY OPTION CAREFULLY. 
          AT THE TIME. THERE WERE A FEW TOWNHOMES AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET, BUT WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THAT KIND OF HOME IF IT HAD BEEN FEASIBLE. INSTEAD, WE FOUND AT THE TIME THAT FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, WE COULD BUY A LARGER SINGLE FAMILY HOME. AND SO WE MOVED TO SAGE LAKES. 
          WE WERE DRAWN TO THE QUIET, OPEN FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BELIEVED IT WAS A GOOD DECISION. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, OVER 200 TOWNHOMES, IS CAUSING CONCERN AMONG QUITE A FEW RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHILE MANY ARE FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL HITS TO PROPERTY VALUE, MY CONCERN IS, LIKE PREVIOUS SPEAKER ON TRAFFIC AND CAR DEPENDANCE. SO SAGE LAKES IS NOT NEAR ANY DAILY NECESSITIES. THERE ARE NO SCHOOLS, GROCERY STORES, GAS STATIONS. THERE IS A CHURCH NEARBY, BUT I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. NOTHING THAT IT ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO STAY LOCAL WITHOUT DRIVING. MY PARTNER AND I BOTH WORK FROM HOME, YET WE STILL LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY BECAUSE EVERY ERRAND, EVERY SINGLE ERRAND REQUIRES A CAR. ADDING HUNDREDS OF HOUSING UNITS HERE WILL INEVITABLY MEAN HUNDREDS MORE CARS ON THE ROADS. THE STREETS IN SAGE LAKES ARE ALREADY WIDE ROADS, SIGNIFICANTLY WIDER THAN MANY OTHER ROADS IN SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THOUGH THE THE THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT IS 25MPH ALREADY, MOST DRIVERS GO SIGNIFICANTLY FASTER. MY FAMILY WALKS OUR DOG TWICE A DAY, AND WE OFTEN SEE OTHER FAMILIES DOING THE SAME, BUT NONE OF US WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE LETTING OUR TWO YEAR OLD ROAM NEAR THE STREET. WE WALKED THE OPEN LAND FOR THE DEVELOPMENT HUNDREDS OF TIMES AS PART OF OUR DAILY RHYTHM. OUR HUSKY. WE HAVE A HUSKY WHO THRIVES THERE, AND IT'S ONE OF THE FEW NEARBY AREAS WHERE FAMILIES AND DOG WALKERS CAN SAFELY SHARE SPACE. LOSING THAT OPEN LAND WILL BE DEEPLY FELT BY MANY OF US WHO'VE COME TO CHERISH IT AS PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIFE. 
          I'M ALSO A ROAD CYCLIST. I RIDE WEEKLY WITH A GROUP OUT OF DAVE'S BIKE SHOP, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN, AND WE OFTEN RIDE DOWN FIFTH EAST. IT'S ONE OF THE FEW DIRECT ROUTES AVAILABLE THAT ALREADY SEES HIGH SPEEDS. AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IT'S A 50 MILE PER HOUR ROAD 
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AND THERE ARE ALREADY UNEVEN SHOULDERS, AND A SURGE IN TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE THAT CORRIDOR CORRIDOR EVEN MORE DANGEROUS AND WORSE IN RIDE QUALITY IN A CITY THAT ALREADY HAS, FRANKLY MEDIOCRE AT BEST, CYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THIS REFLECTS A BROADER ISSUE WHEN GROWTH HAPPENS IN A CAR, IN CAR DEPENDENT AREAS SUCH AS SAGE LAKES, IT MAKES IDAHO FALLS LESS SAFE AND LESS CONNECTED FOR EVERYONE. THE DEVELOPER HAS SAID THAT THIS PROJECT WILL, QUOTE, INCREASE WALKABILITY, BUT I WOULD DISAGREE. SIDEWALKS AND POCKET POCKET PARKS DON'T CREATE WALKABILITY WHEN THERE ARE NO DESTINATIONS TO WALK TO WITHOUT NEARBY SCHOOLS WITHOUT JOBS NEARBY ESSENTIAL SERVICES, NEW RESIDENTS WILL SIMPLY ADD TO CAR TRAFFIC, NOT REDUCE IT. I WANT TO SAY I REALIZE THIS PROJECT WILL LIKELY BE APPROVED. 
          THE DEVELOPER HAS DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. THE AREA IS ZONED APPROPRIATELY AS R2, BUT I WANT TO CHALLENGE THIS COMMITTEE TO THINK BEYOND JUST THIS ONE DECISION TO ALIGN THE CITY'S GROWTH PLAN WITH THE NEEDS OF RESIDENTS LIKE ME. AS A THREE YEAR RESIDENT WHO CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD STRUCTURE, I HOPE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS PRIORITIZE PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS, SERVICES, AND SAFE ROUTES FOR WALKERS AND CYCLISTS. I DO WANT TO SAY I SUPPORT HOUSING LIKE THIS MIXED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH WITH TOWNHOMES, WITH APARTMENTS I THINK IS A GREAT PLAN. IT'S PART OF THE IDAHO FALLS PLAN, BUT I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE THE RIGHT KIND OF HOUSING IN THE RIGHT PLACE. THIS PROJECT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED CLOSER TO THE CITY CENTER, WHERE RESIDENTS CAN LIVE MORE CONNECTED, SUSTAINABLE LIVES. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERING THESE PERSPECTIVES. 
          THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? MY NAME IS DAVID CASKEY. I LIVE AT 5076 ROCK CREEK DRIVE. I'M ABOUT THREE BLOCKS FROM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT. I'LL BE REALLY QUICK. KIND OF QUOTE LISA. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LAST NAME IS. BIRKINS SHE'S ON THE COUNCIL. CRAIG BURKINSHAW RIGHT? SHE'S RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL. SHE OR FOR GOVERNOR OR FOR MAYOR? SORRY. AND SHE WAS AT A. 
          DEBATE OR A QUESTION WITH THREE OTHER PEOPLE RUNNING, AND PRETTY MUCH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE, THAT WERE RUNNING FOR MAYOR WERE TALKING THIS KIND OF LANGUAGE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF STEAL FROM THEM AND SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE THING THAT SHE MENTIONED WAS THE PLAN IS NOT A LAW. IT REQUIRES THE CITY TO ACT ON THE PLAN TO APPROVE THINGS. SO TO SAY THAT IT HAS TO HAPPEN IS NOT ACCURATE, OR THE PLAN IS LAW. WE HAVE TO MAKE UP OUR MIND ON THAT. SO LET ME SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THIS. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE EDGE OF THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, AND POPULATION DENSITY SHOULD BE CENTRALIZED TO CONTROL INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS. WE'RE GOING TO BE THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS IS GOING TO BE RUNNING ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE EDGE OF TOWN TO SERVICE THIS. AND WHY COULDN'T THESE 242 HOMES BE IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN, WHERE THEY'RE PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE THAN ON THE EDGE OF TOWN? ALL OF THE 500 RESIDENTS IN THIS AGE AREA, RESIDENT HOMES IN THE AREA CURRENTLY USE A SINGLE COUNTY ROAD WHICH HAS BEEN SPOKEN TO, BUT I WANT TO MENTION IF THOSE ARE COUNTY ROADS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WAS MENTIONED IN THAT OTHER MEETING WAS THE CITY DOESN'T CONTROL WITH COUNTY ROADS. IT CAN ONLY BE 50FT WIDE. 
          THE CITY CAN CONTROL CITY ROADS TO 100FT WIDE. SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADD STREETS TO TO SERVICE ALL THESE ADDITIONAL HOMES OUT THERE ON THE EDGE OF TOWN? IF YOU DON'T, IF IF THOSE COUNTY ROADS AREN'T IN SYNC. THERE WILL BE A SECOND ROAD ONCE THE BRIDGE IS COMPLETE. 
          BUT FIFTH EAST IS ALREADY OVER, OVERLOADED WITH CURRENT TRAFFIC, AND THERE'S CONSTRUCTION ALL ALONG 50TH ANYWAY, SO AS I'VE SEEN THE PLAN, IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANY KIND OF A BUFFER SPACE BETWEEN THE CURRENT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. IF IT HAS TO GO THROUGH AT A MINIMUM, I WOULD REQUEST THAT THE PROPERTY ALONG. CEDAR CREEK BE TURNED INTO A PARK AND THAT THEY MOVE THE THE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE'S GOING TO BE PARKS IN THE MIDDLE. WHY DON'T YOU PUT THE PARKS ON THE EDGE INSTEAD OF IN THE MIDDLE? BUT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO NOT HAVE THESE HOMES IN THERE AT ALL. THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO 
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MENTION IS FREE PARKING IS ALREADY AN ISSUE IN THE AREA, SO I THINK THIS IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YEAH. ALEX OSBORNE. GOOGLE DRIVE SOME OF THAT COMMISSIONER STORE HAD MENTIONED ABOUT MANAGING GROWTH. IT'S DARK BUDGET STATEMENTS FROM THE GOVERNMENT THEY'RE GOING TO CUT. IS CUTTING ALLOWED LIKE $220 MILLION THIS YEAR. THAT'S A PRETTY BIG PRETTY BIG JUMP OR DECREASE IN THE ECONOMY HERE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE ALL THERE'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE A HUGE AMOUNT OF GROWTH GOING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. SO PUTTING IN THESE HEIGHT DENSE AREAS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NECESSARY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LYLE GUY. I LIVE AT 336 SADDLE ROCK LANE, WHICH IS LIKE 100FT FROM WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE. WE DID NOT GET A NOTICE. WE'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT A YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DIDN'T DIDN'T KNOW OUR ADDRESS OR WHATNOT. WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. I'M SURE YOU'VE TRIED, BUT IT'S PROBABLY HARD TO GET A HOLD OF EVERYBODY. SO I'LL JUST MAKE TWO COMMENTS. ONE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SAY DITTO TO MY NEIGHBOR, WHO, YOU KNOW, IS WANTING TO RECORD THAT EVERYTHING HE SAID IS, IS IS OUR CONCERNS. THE TRAFFIC IS A BIG DEAL. I HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WE MOVED HERE A YEAR AGO, AND I WORKED FOR A PERSONAL INJURY ATTORNEY, AND WE WE DO CAR ACCIDENTS HERE IN TOWN. I'M I'M A CLIENT RELATIONS MANAGER THEN. AND I DON'T FAULT THE GOLD MINE FOR TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS SO BAD. I MEAN, IT IS EVERYWHERE. AND WE'RE DOING THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESS OUT THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ACCIDENTS, LOTS OF T-BONES, LOTS OF REAR ENDS AND A LOTS OF PROBLEMS ON ROADS LIKE THIS WHERE WHEN THEY GET HEAVILY CONGESTED AND THIS WE'VE SEEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE, THE CITY TRYING TO CATCH UP AND TRYING TO DO THINGS. ONE OF OUR FAVORITE SPOTS IS THE ROUNDABOUT OUTSIDE OF COSTCO, WHERE ONE POLICE OFFICER TOLD ME THAT THERE'S TEN ACCIDENTS A WEEK AND THE CITY JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT IN. ACCORDING TO WHAT HE TOLD US. AND WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF OUR CLIENTS REACH OUT TO THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN AN ACCIDENT HERE. HE SAID, CAN SOMETHING BE DONE? THEY SAID, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE NEED TO BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS OUT HERE. AGAIN, IT'S A COUNTY ROAD AND THERE'S, THERE'S THERE'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMS. AND THIS IS ZONED FOR YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE SAID, APARTMENT BUILDINGS RIGHT NEXT TO IT. AND WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO TRAFFIC. IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE BELOW A C. IT'S GOING TO BE BELOW A D. BUT MY BUSINESS WOULD BE VERY WELL. BUT I'M HOPING IT DOESN'T GO THAT WELL FOR ME. AND THAT'S MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          COMMISSIONER I JUST I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. DID THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ONE OF THOSE PREVIOUS COMMENTS WERE ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN NOT BEING LAW. I WOULD LOVE IF YOU WOULD ADDRESS THAT. OKAY, SO JUST TO CLARIFY, HE IS CORRECT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT LAW. THE ZONING CODE, HOWEVER, IS. AND THE ZONING CODE CODE IN MANY FACETS IS FASHIONED AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, HE'S CORRECT. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT LAW. THE ZONING CODE IS. AND HOW THINGS ARE ZONED ARE PART OF THE LAW. THANK YOU, MR. BECK. SORRY. IF WE'RE ADDRESSING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. I DO BELIEVE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS BEFORE US IS WHETHER OR NOT WHETHER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS LAW, BUT WHETHER THE. PROPOSAL IS PUT BEFORE US, MATCHES THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. ONE ON ONE PARK AVENUE OFFICE. I HAVE THE EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH FOR ABOUT 26 YEARS. I SOLD THIS GROUND. I DON'T OWN IT ANYMORE. I OWN THE GROUND NEXT TO IT. THAT'S BEEN 
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SUBJECT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO COVER A COUPLE OF THINGS. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE. THAT TRAFFIC STUDY INCLUDED A SURROUNDING GROUND. THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PUT IN ON LEWISVILLE HIGHWAY. THAT IS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I'VE BEEN TOLD, HAS BEEN ANNEXED IN AND IS NOW A CITY STREET. SO THE CITY DOES HAVE CONTROL OF THAT. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT. THE CITY OWNS THAT STREET. I KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE HAD GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE APPROVALS TO PUT THE BRIDGE IN AND THE APPROACHES WITH THE COUNTY, AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO DO IT AGAIN WITH THE CITY. SO IT'S IT'S THERE. 
          THERE'S TALK ABOUT THE DENSITY AND DOES THIS BELONG OUT HERE AND ALL OF THIS. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY PUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO THE LEWISVILLE HIGHWAY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ZONING ORDINANCES AND THE PLAN MASTER PLANNING OR THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS, THEY WANT THE HIGH DENSITY STUFF ON THOSE INTERSECTIONS. THAT'S BEEN WELL KNOWN THAT THAT BRIDGE HAD TO BE IN TO BE ABLE TO TO BUILD ON THESE UNITS FOR YEARS, AS IT WAS SAID THAT WAS ANNEXED. WITH THAT IN MIND, BEEN THERE FOREVER. IT'S AN INTERESTING POINT. 25 YEARS AGO WE BUILT SOME TOWNHOUSES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOLF COURSE. WE HAD TEN TIMES AS MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE. THEY WERE LINED UP AS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS UPSTAIRS IN THE IDAHO FALLS POWER BUILDING, OUT THE DOOR, DOWN THE STAIRS, DOWN THE SIDEWALK, BECAUSE SOMEONE TOOK SOME PICTURES OF A CRAPPY APARTMENT COMPLEX AND SAID, THEY'RE BUILDING THIS. AND THEY WENT LITERALLY DOOR TO DOOR. AND THEY STARTED IT UP AND IT WAS GOING TO DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY, I'M PRETTY CERTAIN, BASED ON THE ADDRESSES, EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE IN THIS QUOTE TO BE DESTROYED NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WON'T DESTROY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WON'T DO IT. I DISAGREE. OKAY, LET'S LET'S KEEP OUR COMMENTS TO OURSELVES. I CAN'T SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO THAT. OKAY. WELL, SIR, IF WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO KEEP KEEP SOME DECORUM HERE, PLEASE. THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT WATER PRESSURE, WATER PRESSURE AND THE UTILITIES EXTENDED OUT THERE 15 YEARS AGO. THEY'VE BEEN IMPROVED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS BECAUSE OF ALL THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH. THERE'S NOW MORE WATER PRESSURE. THESE UNITS AS DESIGNED WILL HAVE MUCH LESS DEMAND ON THE WATER SYSTEM THAN BIG THIRD QUARTER ACRE, HALF ACRE LOTS, MUCH LESS DEMAND ON THE WATER. THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS EXTENDED OUT THERE. I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY. IT WAS ALREADY BEING DEVELOPED. THAT WAS IN THE LATE 1900S, JUST BEFORE THE TURN OF THE CENTURY. SO. SO I THINK I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO JUST THIS FITS THE PLAN. THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE DONE. YOU'VE YOU'VE ESTABLISHED THE GROUND RULE. ZONING IS ESTABLISHED. THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF DESIGN. 
          AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, IF ANY QUESTIONS, I PROBABLY KNOW AS MUCH ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THERE AS ANYONE IN THE CITY. DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. I WOULD LOVE TO PICK YOUR BRAIN ONE DAY. JUST. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I CAN'T BE QUIET ANYMORE. MY NAME IS BRANT COLBURN. MY ADDRESS IS THREE ONE FOR ROCK CREEK CIRCLE. AND AFTER THOSE COMMENTS, I CAN'T QUITE. I WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY WATER PRESSURE IN OUR HOUSE OVER THE SUMMER. THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT'S HAPPENED AFTER CONTACTING THE CITY WATER DEPARTMENT. OUR WATER PRESSURE GOT DOWN TO ABOUT 20 PSI THIS SUMMER, SO THIS GRAPH, THIS GRAND AMOUNT OF WATER PRESSURE HE'S TALKING ABOUT DOESN'T EXIST. I HAVE AN ACTUAL WATER PRESSURE GAUGE IN MY HOUSE, THE CITY INFORMED ME THAT OUR GAUGE AT OUR HOUSE IS THE IS THE MOST ACCURATE AND THE FARTHEST NORTH GAUGE THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY HAS. AND SO NOW THEY RELY UPON THE GAUGE AT OUR HOUSE TO GAUGE WATER PRESSURE THAT FAR NORTH, THE WHOLE CITY. SO WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU HAVE THE MAP TO SHOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? THE BIG BUTTON ON TOP RIGHT. YOU GUYS APPROVED A PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALL 
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THIS AREA OVER HERE, THE ORANGE BRIDGE IS RIGHT THERE. CORRECT. YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED SUBDIVISIONS OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE THAT GO AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS IS ALL IN THE ORANGE. THERE ARE SOME APARTMENTS UP OVER HERE. I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED AS PART OF YOUR COMMISSION, AS WELL AS SOME OTHER HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS OVER HERE. AND I DO SAY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT GO AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ARE OUTLINED OVER HERE. ALSO OVER HERE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. IS R-2 CORRECT? R-2 ALSO ALLOWS FOR HOUSES AND I HAVE SEEN PLANS FOR THIS ACTUAL SECTION AS HOUSES. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE HOUSES AND APARTMENTS. APARTMENTS. THE LAND UP HERE. NORTH UP HERE WITH BIRDIE THOMPSON IS THE AWESOME PART ABOUT THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT UP HERE IS IT'S SEPARATED BY THE CANAL, WHICH IS GREAT FOR US BECAUSE IT HAS A NATURAL DIVISION FROM FROM ALL OF OUR FROM ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, THE OTHER APARTMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE WHERE I CAN'T READ WHAT THAT IS, MAGNOLIA, WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO GO EVENTUALLY. IT'S ALSO SEPARATED FROM OUR DIVISION, WHICH IS GREAT. WE WON'T SEE THEM. SO. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. IT'S FARTHER AWAY. IT'S GOT NATURAL DIVISION FROM OUR PROPERTY. ALL THESE RIGHT HERE ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD. WE'LL SEE THEM EVERY DAY. WE'LL SEE ALL OF THE HUNDREDS OF KIDS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING TO SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL. KEEP IN MIND IS TEMPLE VIEW ELEMENTARY AND MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WHERE THAT'S AT. THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY. CLOSE TO BROADWAY THAN IT IS TO OUR SUBDIVISION. SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE STUDENTS IN THIS DIVISION WILL BE GOING ALONG WITH ALL OF THEIR BUSSES THAT FAR AWAY, IF THAT IS THEIR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO. THAT'S ALL I SEE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANYONE ELSE? HI, MY NAME IS BRENDA. I LIVE AT 5240 SECTORS CREEK WHICH IS GREAT. YOU HAVE SOME DOWN. THERE'S LOTS OF KIDS THAT PLAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OUT ON THEIR BIKES, SCOOTERS IN THE STREET, AND I CAN IMAGINE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO END. THIS GOES IN PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH DOWN CYPRESS CREEK AND THESE OTHER STREETS TO GET OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION, GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION, ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUBDIVISION MORE THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ONE CAR, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO CARS PROBABLY LEAVING EVERY MORNING. SO THAT MAKES 512 A DAY. I WORRY THAT THE ROADS AREN'T GOING TO BE WIDE ENOUGH TO HANDLE IT, AND THAT AND THE INTERSECTIONS, PEOPLE WANTING TO TURN LEFT AND RIGHT TO GET OUT OVER THE BRIDGE. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH FOR PEOPLE. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. AND I CAN SECOND THE LAST PERSON. MY WATER PRESSURE IS NOT VERY GOOD. I LIVE RIGHT THERE. I WORRY THAT THE NEW BUILDING MORE BEFORE YOU FIX THE WATER PRESSURE ISSUE IS NOT THE WAY TO GO. YOU'VE GOT TO FIX THE PROBLEM BEFORE YOU START BUILDING NEW THINGS SO IT DOESN'T BECOME EVEN WORSE. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. ANYONE ELSE? I JUST GOT TO SAY SOMETHING. I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU COME UP TO THE AND GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MIKE. I LIVE ON 5060 ROCK HOLLOW LANE. AND FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU'RE A LIAR BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW. HEY, SIR, LET'S ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ADDRESSING IT. OKAY? BUT YOU POINT IT BACK AND AND WE'RE ADDRESSING HIM. SO I PAID ALMOST $1 MILLION FOR MY HOME IN FAIRWAY ESTATES. AND JUST TO WATCH ALL THIS CRAP GOING ON AROUND HERE, THESE LOW LIFE BUILDING THAT THAT ARE GOING TO DEVALUE MY PROPERTY, THAT I'VE SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE BUILDING BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PASS IT NO MATTER WHAT. AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR CITY. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS CONSTANTLY APPROVE THESE APARTMENTS, TOWNHOUSES, CONDOMINIUMS. THEY'RE EVERYWHERE. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU GUYS? AND NOT 
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ONLY THAT, WE'RE LANDLOCKED IN FAIRWAY STATES. BECAUSE I CAN'T RIDE A BICYCLE OR I CAN'T RUN INTO TOWN BECAUSE OUR ROADS ARE SO NARROW. THERE'S NO BIKE LANES, THERE'S NO NOTHING. THE ONLY WAY TO GET INTO TOWN IS TO DRIVE. AND I'M SICK OF IT. YOU GUYS DON'T DO NOTHING FOR US AND IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. HOPEFULLY PEOPLE GET SMART AND THEY VOTE FOR SOME GOOD PEOPLE IN HERE BECAUSE I AM SICK OF IT. SICK OF IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. YOU'RE. ANYONE ELSE? OH, WELL. THERE'S JUST AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT MADE AS HE WAS EXITING. I JUST AGAIN, I WANT TO ECHO THAT THERE IS A LEVEL OF DECORUM HERE. THIS IS NOT A PITCHFORK AND TORCHES SITUATION. THIS IS VERY MUCH TREATED KIND OF SIMILAR TO A COURTHOUSE. THERE'S GOT TO BE A LEVEL DECORUM. WE'RE NOT TRADING SWEARING AT OTHER INDIVIDUALS. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS. YES. AND YOU CAN FEEL THAT WAY. BUT AGAIN, DO KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. WE'RE WE'RE NOT HERE LASHING OUT AT OTHER INDIVIDUALS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ON THAT NOTE, DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO GO? OKAY, I THINK IT IS. NOW TIME TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR COMMENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT MAY NOT CHANGE YOUR OPINION, BUT IT'S IT THERE'S SPECIFICS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN RELATION TO SOME CONCERNS. AND LIKE ACTUAL LIKE SYSTEMATIC THINGS THAT I THINK WILL HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THESE ITEMS. ONE THING THAT IF I CAN, CAN YOU SWITCH BACK TO THE OTHER ONE? SO ON THE TRAFFIC REPORT, JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS HELPFUL. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENS FURTHER EAST, BUT IF I GO HERE TO THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND IT LOOKS AT THE THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE, SO ON 2033, WHICH IS WHERE IT DROPS FROM A B TO A C, AT YOUR PEAK, IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S ACTUALLY ON FIFTH WEST IN BAVARO. SO THE BRIDGE WHICH IS FIFTH EAST IN SAGE LAKE STAYS AT A B EVEN WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING ON FIFTH EAST. SO THERE MUST BE SOME GROWTH OR SOME, YOU KNOW, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING ON FIFTH WEST THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT DROP FROM A B TO A C. AND I AGREE WITH EVERYONE HERE. THERE'S A TRAFFIC PROBLEM. 
          EVERYONE HAS TO DRIVE DOWN ARROW. THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM. IT'S NOT A HELPFUL THING WHERE EVERYONE I MEAN WE PROBABLY NEED SPEED BUMPS. PROBABLY. YOU KNOW, I, I'D BE IRRITATED TO HAVING TO DRIVE SO FAR TO GET OUT. AND SO I THINK THAT BY HAVING THAT WE'LL CALL IT A RELEASE VALVE. REALLY LIKE IT GETS EVERYBODY OUT QUICKER UP ON THE BRIDGE. I THINK WE'LL BE HELPFUL. THE OTHER THING, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TRAFFIC PLAN, IF YOU LOOK HERE ON FIFTH EAST, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE WE'VE ALREADY INSTALLED A RIGHT TURN LANE. SO I UNFORTUNATELY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LOT OF PERSONAL INJURY OVER HERE. YOU MAY BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY INSTALLED A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE OVER THE BRIDGE. SO YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S MERGING THEN IT COULD I GUESS IT COULD HAPPEN. BUT WE HAVE A DEDICATED RIGHT TURN LANE, AND WE HAVE A DEDICATED LEFT TURN LANE AND A DEDICATED RIGHT. SO AS YOU COME SOUTH AND YOU COME IN, YOU HAVE A DEDICATED LANE. AS YOU COME OUT AND GO SOUTH, YOU HAVE A DEDICATED LANE. AND WHEN YOU GO IN WEST YOU HAVE A DEDICATED LANE. SO IT IS HIGH SPEED, 50MPH, BUT THERE'S DEDICATED LANES FOR THAT. YEAH. SO THEY'RE ALREADY IN. YEAH. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN ALREADY. THEY WERE IN BEFORE THEY DID THE BRIDGE. JUST THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY DID. ANOTHER THING IS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS THERE'S BEEN FIVE CRASHES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY'VE NOT INVOLVED ANY PEOPLE. IT'S JUST BEEN PROPERTY DAMAGE. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, LIKE MAILBOXES OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. MAYBE PARKED CARS, I'M NOT SURE, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY REPORTS FROM PUBLIC RECORD THAT INDICATES ANY PEOPLE HAVE ANY ANY INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN HURT WITH TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A GREAT SCENARIO WHERE EVERYONE HAS TO EMPTY OUT ALL THE WAY DOWN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO COME OUT HERE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY ANY PERSONAL INJURIES. SIMILARLY, AS KEVIN POINTED OUT, LIKE WITH 
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THIS DEVELOPMENT UP HERE, THE POINT OF THIS IS THERE'S BECAUSE OF THIS BUFFER HERE, THIS DIVISION 26 THAT'S BEING INSTALLED RIGHT NOW, IT'S PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY THAT THERE'S I MEAN, IF YOU'RE COMING THROUGH, IF YOU'RE COMING UP TO THE BRIDGE WE INSTALLED, THEN YOU MIGHT RUN INTO PEOPLE, BUT NO ONE IN THIS AREA IS GOING TO I MEAN, UNLESS THEY'RE COMING OUT HERE, I GUESS THEY COULD. BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME OUT HERE. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT RUN INTO THEM AS YOU COME INTO THEIR AREA, BUT THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CROSS TRAFFIC, I GUESS, BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO THAT EXIT. SO THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHAT WHAT KEVIN WAS SAYING WHEN HE WAS MENTIONING THAT. THAT'S WHY THEY PUT THOSE HUBS THERE. SO IT'S IN AND OUT AND IT'S NOT GOING THROUGH THESE DEVELOPMENTS. SO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE WATER PRESSURE IS PROBABLY REAL I DON'T KNOW I DON'T TAKE SHOWERS IN THAT AREA OR WHATEVER. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CITY HAS NOW CHANGED THE WE'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH. AND IT'S IT'S A NEW THING FOR THE CITY HISTORICALLY. EVERYBODY IN HERE WAS ON CULINARY WATER FOR IRRIGATION. SO THEY JUST CONNECTED RIGHT INTO LIKE THEIR WATER TO SPRING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE TURNING THE SPRINKLERS ON. THAT'S NOW CHANGING. SO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE IRRIGATION CANAL COMPANY. AND SO WE HAVE TO INSTALL OUR OWN PRESSURIZED IRRIGATION HERE JUST NORTH OF THE BRIDGE, RUN IT ALONG SAGE LAKES AND SERVICE THIS WHOLE PUD. SO IT'S AN INDEPENDENT. WE DON'T THERE'S NO IMPACT FEE BECAUSE WE PAY FOR IT ALL. BUT WE THERE WILL BE NO IMPACT TO WATER WHEN IT COMES TO SPRINKLERS. IT'S ALL IT'S A NEW SYSTEM WITH THE STATE. IT'S A MANDATE WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK WITH PRESSURIZED IRRIGATION SYSTEMS SO THERE WON'T BE ANY DRAW ON THE THE SPRINKLING, THE WATERING, LANDSCAPING. LIKE ALL OF EVERYONE WHO'S ALREADY IN HERE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. JUST SO EVERYONE'S CLEAR, LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE? WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE A PUMP IN. WE'LL HAVE TO PUT IN ALL OF OUR IRRIGATION LINES. IT'S ALL INDEPENDENT. AND THEN WE TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY AND THEN THEY MANAGE IT. LET'S SEE. SO I THINK THAT AUSTIN TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. MIKE, TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AS WELL AND THE ACCIDENTS. DAVID MENTIONED. OH, THE PARKING. ONE THING THAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE WE DESIGNED IT WITH TWO CAR GARAGES. WE HAVE FOUR STALLS PER UNIT. SO THERE IS WE MADE THE STREETS WIDE ENOUGH FOR SOME STREET PARKING BECAUSE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT IF YOU WANT IT. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A LOT, BUT IT'S ALL INTERIOR. SO YOU KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULDN'T FEEL IT. IT'S ALL INSIDE OF IT. AND YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE FOUR, FOUR PARKED CARS PER UNIT WITHOUT TWO IN YOUR GARAGE, TWO IN THE DRIVEWAY. IT'S BEEN DESIGNED THAT WAY TO LIGHTEN, YOU KNOW, ANY PARKING SITUATIONS. YEAH, I THINK THAT I MEAN, I THINK THAT THE PRESSURE OF TRAFFIC SAFETY. YEAH. I THE OH, ANOTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE UTILITIES. SO BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED AND DEVELOPED WELL, THE DESIGN OF THE DEVELOPMENT WAS SO LONG AGO, THERE'S NO IMPACT TO BRINGING UTILITIES OUT. SO STORM DRAINS HELD WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S HELD WITHIN THE THE THE ACTUAL PONDS AROUND THE GOLF COURSE. SIMILARLY, THE WATER THE DEVELOPMENT IS BRINGING IN THOSE LINES, EXTENDING, YOU KNOW, THOSE IN POWER, ETCETERA. 
          SO THERE'S NOTHING, YOU KNOW, COMING IN FROM OTHER PLACES. IT'S ALL IT'S ALL THERE. AND WE'RE JUST EXTENDING THOSE, THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT WAS ALL DESIGNED WITH THAT INTENTION MANY YEARS AGO. I THINK. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF MOST OF THE COMMENTS. I'M THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR INPUT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS EVERYONE'S COMMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING FOR EVERYBODY. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND NOW WE WILL DISCUSS AMONGST OURSELVES. ANY JUST GENERAL THOUGHTS. NOT EVEN JUST MAKING A DECISION. JUST GENERAL THOUGHTS, ANYTHING THAT STICKS OUT TO ANYONE. SURE I'LL TALK. FIRST. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO CAME AGAIN. EVERYONE WHO CAME OUT TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT. WE ARE LISTENING. I KNOW MANY FOLKS AROUND TOWN OFTEN THINK THAT WE ARE NOT. WE ARE, AND WE DO APPRECIATE AND INVOLVE PUBLIC 
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NEIGHBORS WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITIES AND YOUR YOUR TIME AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING YOUR VOICES HEARD. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THERE ARE THINGS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS FROM SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF ANYONE. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEM. I HEARD ABOUT WALKABILITY. I HEARD ABOUT BIKEABILITY. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING THAT COULD BE APPROVED IN THIS SPACE THAT WOULD NOT BE BETTER FOR YOU AND YOUR DOG THAN AN EMPTY FIELD AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. SO WHETHER THAT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHETHER IT'S TOWNHOUSES, WHETHER IT'S AN APARTMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO THERE EVENTUALLY, POTENTIALLY, POTENTIALLY ON THE R3, A SPACE TO THE EAST OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE THAT CAN GO THERE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE BETTER FOR YOU THAN THE EMPTY FIELD THAT'S THERE NOW. RIGHT. AND IT'S NOT OUR PLACE AS THE COMMISSION TO TELL AN APPLICANT WHO HAS A PLAN THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ZONING THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD THERE ANYTHING. RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE REALITY OF LIVING TO WHAT'S NOW AN EMPTY FIELD AND IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING SOMEDAY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT THIS NOW. I HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES SOUTH ON FIFTH EAST. I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT. I LIVE ALONG THIS ROAD MYSELF. JUST FARTHER SOUTH. I WOULD SAY THAT BUILDING MORE HOUSING OUT IN THIS DIRECTION. AND THERE'S ZONING TO THE EAST HERE THAT IS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL. PUTTING MORE POPULATION OUT HERE IS HOW WE GET COMMERCIAL TO FOLLOW AND TO CREATE COMMERCIAL SERVICES NEAR YOUR HOMES THAT DON'T EXIST. NOW. RIGHT NOW EVERYONE'S GOT TO GO TO FRED MEYER OR SOMEWHERE ELSE TO GET TO A GROCERY STORE THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, NECESSARILY CLOSE TO YOUR HOME THAT'S WALKABLE OR DRIVABLE. BIKEABLE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GREAT. BUT WHEN WE HAVE MORE POPULATION OUT IN THESE CURRENTLY UNDERSERVED AREAS, COMMERCIAL TENDS TO FOLLOW. AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET. THINGS TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY JUST ALONG HIT ROAD ALONG THE LINE, YOU KNOW, TO GET SERVICES CLOSER TO YOUR HOMES. RIGHT. YOU'VE SEEN THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MAVERICK UP THERE RECENTLY. 
          THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NEARBY THAT WEREN'T THERE BEFORE, AND IT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO THE AREA. YOU KNOW, I AM SENSITIVE TO FOLKS WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING A CERTAIN KIND OF COMMUNITY WHEN THEY BOUGHT IN HERE AND NOW ARE FINDING OUT, MAYBE FOR THE FIRST TIME, THAT IT'S NOT ZONED THE WAY YOU THOUGHT IT WAS. BUT THE REALITY IS THIS PIECE OF LAND WAS ZONED R2 WHEN IT CAME INTO THE CITY. THAT DOES PREDATE MANY OF THE HOMES IN THE AREA. AND I DO THINK OUR DEVELOPER HERE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF, YOU KNOW, NOT NECESSARILY THIS PUD ITSELF, BUT WE SEE ON THE SLIDE, IT'S CURRENTLY UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, AN INTENTIONAL BUFFER RIGHT WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SORRY, BUILT IN BETWEEN SO THAT THERE'S NOT WHAT MIGHT FEEL LIKE A SUDDEN SHIFT TO YOU. AND AGAIN, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES. THIS TO ME IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN THAT IS GOING RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          LIKE WE ARE ADDING ANOTHER ROAD THAT SPILLS OUT ONTO FIFTH EAST. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. THAT'S GOING TO DECREASE TRAFFIC THROUGH YOUR EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. WE'VE ADDED TURN LANES. SO TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE EXITING ONTO FIFTH EAST OR COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF FIFTH EAST CAN DO SO SAFELY WITHOUT BACKING UP TRAFFIC. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT WATER PRESSURE ISSUES, AND THEN HEARD THAT THE APPLICANT HAS HAD TO PUT IN A PRESSURIZED IRRIGATION LINE TO SERVICE THIS COMMUNITY BEFORE IT GETS BUILT. THOSE, TO ME, ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF THINGS WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS PREDATING THE HOUSING THAT'S GOING IN IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY. AND THEN FINALLY, I WILL SAY, I APPRECIATE THE BUDGET NERDS WHO COME OUT AND MENTION THAT SPECIFICALLY SOMEONE WHO TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AT INL MAY BE DOWN. RIGHT. THAT'S A POTENTIAL REALITY. BUT IF WE ONLY LOOK YEAR BY YEAR, THOSE ARE EXAMPLES OF TIMES THAT WE GET ACCUSED OF THINKING IN THE SHORT TERM FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO, INL HAS BEEN GROWING RAPIDLY, AND ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, IF WE DO NOT ACCOUNT FOR FUTURE ECONOMIC GROWTH, AND WE ONLY THINK ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE THINKING IN THE SHORT TERM. AND THEN FINALLY, IT HAS COME UP MULTIPLE TIMES TONIGHT. THE WAY TO GET CHEAPER HOUSING OR TO STABILIZE HOUSING OR REDUCE HOUSING PRICES IS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING. WE CANNOT EXPECT HOUSING PRICES IN IDAHO FALLS 
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TO COME DOWN IF WE DO NOT INCREASE THE SUPPLY. AND I AM MYSELF, SOMEONE WHO, WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR A HOME IN IDAHO FALLS, WAS LOOKING FOR A SMALL, NICE HOME AND IT'S A PRODUCT THAT DID NOT REALLY EXIST HERE FIVE YEARS AGO. WE HAVE A LOT MORE OF THEM NOW, AND THERE'S A LOT MORE FOLKS LIKE ME, LIKE OUR NEW NEIGHBOR WHO SPOKE TO US, WHO NOW HAVE THAT OPTION, WHO DIDN'T BEFORE. I AM PERSONALLY IN FAVOR OF MIXED HOUSING TYPES. I THINK JUST BECAUSE THE HOUSE THAT'S RIGHT FOR YOU DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT FOR EVERYONE. AND I UNDERSTAND WHEN THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY WHAT YOU EXPECTED IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO LIVE IN THE KINDS OF PLACES THAT ARE RIGHT FOR THEM, NO MATTER WHO THEY ARE. THAT'S EVERYTHING I GOT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? NO, I DO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. AND I WANT TO LOOK AT BIG PICTURE HERE ON TWO FRONTS. THE FIRST THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, THE CITY ISN'T PLANNING. YOU KNOW, WHY? WHY ARE WE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, THESE BIG OR THESE HIGHER DENSITY PROJECTS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN? WELL, I'M SURE A LOT OF YOU ARE AWARE, OUT OF OUR CONTROL. BUT THE NEW FREEWAY THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING IN NOW, IT'S NOT 100% OKAY. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT ITD IS WANTING. AND WITH THAT, WE'RE THAT'S WHY ALL THE AREA TO THE EAST OF LEWISVILLE HIGHWAY IS ZONED EITHER COMMERCIAL OR HIGHER DENSITY, SLASH MORE RESIDENTIAL. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SHIFT IN THIS AREA, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. THAT'S JUST HOW WHEN YOU START BUILDING FREEWAYS AND HIGHWAYS AND BIGGER ROADS, PEOPLE LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM BECAUSE WE ARE A CAR DEPENDENT SOCIETY. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE GROWTH IS GOING TO BE. AND LIKE COMMISSIONER MEEHAN WAS SAYING, WHEN WE START SEEING MORE POPULATION GROWTH, THAT'S WHEN YOU START SEEING THE COMMERCIAL AMENITIES COME. AND SO RIGHT NOW IT FEELS OUT OF PLACE. BUT LONG TERM VISION, IT WILL MAKE MORE SENSE. I LIKED THE COMMENT ABOUT WALKABILITY IN A SENSE OF LIKE BECAUSE THERE'S NO AMENITIES NEARBY, YOU'RE STILL HAVING A LOT OF CARS. I AGREE WITH THAT. I'M A HUGE WALKABILITY FAN URBAN FAN. 
          HOWEVER, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DETACHED, WHICH ALSO IS JUST MORE CAR DEPENDENT. SO TO ME HOW I SEE IT IS, YES, IT'S NOT THIS PERFECT BASTION OF URBAN, YOU KNOW, URBAN LIVING, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD EVEN WANT HERE. AND BUT IT'S NOT MY OPINION. IT'S JUST AT LEAST WE HAVE A DIFFERENT HOUSING TYPE HERE. AND WHEN IT COMES TO NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL, THIS PROJECT HAS TWO PARKS THAT IS OPEN TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHICH THIS COMMUNITY DID NOT HAVE AT ALL, AND THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF GREEN SPACE IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO IF I'M THINKING OF FAMILIES, THIS SOMETHING LIKE THIS FITS RIGHT IN WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS. AND IT'S NEAR A MAJOR ARTERIAL. SO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT. THIS THIS PROJECT RIGHT HERE WILL ACTUALLY HELP REDUCE THE TAX BURDEN ON THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DETACHED. WE GOT TO KEEP CLEARING THAT UP TONIGHT. SINGLE DETACHED HOMES ON LARGER LOTS DO NOT BRING IN THE AMOUNT OF TAXES NEEDED TO HELP MAINTAIN OR REPLACE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES TO THEIR HOMES OVER THE LONG PERIOD OF TIME 20, 30, 40 YEARS. 
          THE TAXES THAT THEY BRING IN ARE END UP HAVING TO GO TOWARDS OTHER MAINTENANCE THAT'S BEEN DEFERRED ON OTHER SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS OVER THE PAST 20, 30 YEARS. HOWEVER, A PROJECT LIKE THIS BRINGS IN MORE TAXES PER ACRE THAN A, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE FAIRWAY ESTATES, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL PRIVATE ROADS ON THE INSIDE. SO THE CITY IS NOT EVEN GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS, PLOW THOSE ROADS OR ANYTHING. AND SO THIS PROJECT SUBSIDIZES 
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THE AREAS AROUND IT. THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS. AND THAT'S JUST A PURE FACT THERE. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS HARSH, BUT IT SUBSIDIZES THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IT HELPS PUT THE CITY IN A POSITION TO WHERE, IF WE EVER DID STOP GROWING, AND OVER A PERIOD OF SEVERAL DECADES, WE'RE NOT WITH A GIANT BACKLOG. WE AS I'M THE CITY WELL, I LIVE IN THE CITY. WE'RE NOT LEFT WITH A BIG LOG BACKLOG OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE. WE'RE ABLE TO STAY ON TOP OF IT. THAT IS SMART GROWTH. BY PUTTING IN HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENTS THAT BRING IN MORE TAX MONEY TO HELP SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING AREAS. RIGHT NOW, I UNDERSTAND THESE ROADS LEADING TO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE A NIGHTMARE. YEAH, I DON'T LIKE THESE SUPER SKINNY COUNTY ROADS. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO BIKE, YOU KNOW, INTO TOWN. THANKFULLY, THIS CANAL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IS IT PLANNED TO HAVE A PATHWAY ALONG IT. THE CANAL WON'T HAVE A PATH, BUT FIFTH EAST WILL HAVE SHARED PATH ON BOTH SIDES OF IT. SO AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, THE CITY IS THEN ABLE TO PAY FOR MORE INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS ETHOS GOING AROUND RIGHT NOW THAT WE NEED TO FIX OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST. WELL BEFORE WE GROW WELL, WE'VE BEEN ONLY BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOODS FOR SO MANY YEARS. WE'RE STILL PLAYING THE CATCH UP GAME, WHICH I AGREE, BUT THE ONLY WAY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IS BY DOING HIGHER DENSITY PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IT HELPS US GET IN A MORE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE WAY, OR A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE STATE OF DOING THINGS. SO AND PLUS SIDE NOTE, I LIKE ALL THE GREENERY. I LIKE THAT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THE NO DRIVEWAYS FACING THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT'S A NICE TOUCH. I LOVE TREES, MY NAME'S FORREST, SO I GOT A LIGHT TREES. SO I JUST HOPE THEY PUT EVEN MORE TREES ALONG THE STREET, NOT JUST NEXT TO THE HOUSES. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. ANYONE ELSE? NO. OKAY. DOES ANYONE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. I MOVE THAT THIS COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          OH, NO. HOLD ON. RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR SAGE LAKES PUD TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SECOND THAT? YES, SIR. I'LL SECOND. OKAY, I WILL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL. VOTE. COMMISSIONER CANTU. NAY. HANSON. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? I. 
          I SAW. I WILL GIVE A VERY HIGH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S COMMENTS. THIS MEETING. THIS WILL THEN GO ON TO CITY COUNCIL WHERE YOU CAN THEN MAKE YOUR. VOICES HEARD. 
          THEY ALSO TAKE INTO MORE INTO ACCOUNT THAN JUST ASIDE FROM THE WHAT WE CAN TONIGHT IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY. SO THEY HAVE THE FINAL SAY. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HANGING IN THERE THROUGH ROUND ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT DIDN'T PERTAIN TO YOU. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK YOU ALL. ALL RIGHT. DO WE NEED A BREAK BEFORE WE DO OUR BUSINESS ITEMS? NO. SHOULD WE JUST POWER THROUGH? YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS I'LL WAIT UNTIL. KEEPS ANY KIND OF. I'M ON THE BOARD. THIS IS MY LAST. OKAY, I WAS WAITING TILL WE WERE OUT AND. ALL RIGHT. BUSINESS ITEM. SO NOW WE'RE 
          [3. PLT25-025: FINAL PLAT for Affinity Division No. 1. NE ¼ of the SW ¼ of Section 26,  Township 2 North, Range 37 East. Located north of Pioneer Drive, east of Interstate 15,  south of the Battle Creek Canal, and west of Pioneer Road. ¹]
GOING TO GO TO THE FINAL PLAT FOR DIVISION NUMBER ONE. DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? NO. SO 
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THAT'S ALL YOU COMMISSION? I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS REAL QUICK FOR YOU. SO THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT FOR AFFINITY DIVISION ONE. THE REQUESTED ACTION TONIGHT IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. SO THIS PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY IN MARCH 2025, WHICH THE INITIAL ZONE OF LC LIMITED COMMERCIAL AND CONTROLLED DEVELOPMENT, AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE. THIS FINAL PLAT IS GO TO THE PLAT. IT'S 6.74 ACRES. IT'S ONE BUILDABLE LOT. IT IS A PROPOSED MULTI FUTURE MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S NO NEW PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAYS. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 15FT OF RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION FROM PIONEER, WHICH IS A MAJOR COLLECTOR, AS WE HEARD EARLIER ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES. THIS IS A CASE WHERE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS SUBMITTED DUE TO THE FACT THAT TO SHOW A TURN LANE WAS WARRANTED INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT IS BEING REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER CURRENTLY WITH THE FINAL PLAT AND THE IMPROVEMENT DRAWINGS. AND THE TRAFFIC SUMMARY CURRENTLY DOES FIND THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE DOES NOT WARRANT TURN LANES INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS AN LC ZONE. GO BACK TO THE ZONING. AND THAT'S OF COURSE A MIXED USE ZONE WITH COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL USES. THE RESIDENTIAL USES FOLLOW THE R-3 DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. BOTH OF THOSE TABLES ARE IN YOUR PACKET. AND THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AREA IS A MIXED USE CENTER CORRIDOR. IT DONATES AREA. PEOPLE TEND TO SHOP, EAT, AND GATHER. ALL HOUSING TYPES GENERALLY HAVE A MORE INTENSE FEEL THAN OTHERS. SO AGAIN, TO KIND OF MAKE IT QUICK AND SIMPLE, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE FINAL PLAT FINDS THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S ALSO COMPREHENSIVE. IT ALSO COMPLIES WITH SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND ZONING ORDINANCE, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DIVISION. NUMBER ONE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE WHAT A MULTI-UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS. HOW? BECAUSE PRESUMABLY IT COULD BE ANYTHING THAT'S ALLOWED, CORRECT? YES. COMMERCIAL. SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC IS GOING TO GENERATE? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. SO THIS SO SITE PLAN HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROPERTY IS BEING ALSO CURRENTLY REVIEWED BY STAFF. AND SO THEY'RE BASING THAT TRAFFIC STUDY. THE APPLICANT WHO IS ALSO BUILDING ON THIS IS FACING A TRAFFIC STUDY ON WHAT USE IF THE USE WERE TO CHANGE AND THEY WERE TO NOT BUILD THAT. IF A NEW SITE PLAN WERE TO COME IN, THEY WOULD THEN REEVALUATE WHAT WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? NO PUBLIC HEARING. SO. 
          ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION? NO. HE SAID ONE QUESTION. I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE LATE IN ASKING THIS. OKAY. ON THE AREA JUST TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL. IS THAT NORTH OF PIONEER DRIVE. IS THAT A DEDICATED ROAD? CAN YOU SEE JUST A RANDOM ANNEXED PART? YEAH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME. IT'S NOT A RIGHT OF WAY. STILL. SO THE ONLY ACCESS TO THIS PARCEL THEN IS ON PIONEER ROAD? YES. TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT, DOES THAT SINGLE POINT OF ACCESS MEAN THAT THERE IS A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY? THERE'S ACTUALLY PROPOSED TWO ACCESSES TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND YES, THE FIRE CODE DICTATES HOW MANY UNITS CAN BE BASED ON THOSE ACCESSES. OKAY. OKAY, OKAY. WELL IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION? NO. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR POSITION NUMBER ONE TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. PERFECT. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND THAT? I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. WE GOT A THIRD AS WELL. SO A THIRD GOT IT IS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. YEP. COMMISSIONER CAN I ANSWER? HI, SCOTT. HI. HI HI, HI. MOTION. THAT'S PERFECT. SO NOW IT IS TIME FOR FINAL PLAT FOR 
          [4. PLT25-026: FINAL PLAT for Anderson Townhomes Division No. 2. Lot 1, Block 1,  Berkshire Apartments Division No. 1. Located north of W Anderson Street, east of US  Hwy 20, south of Science Center Drive, and west of N Boulevard. ¹]
          [03:35:09]
ANDERSON TOWNHOMES DIVISION NUMBER TWO. ASSUMING IT'S YOU GUYS, NO ONE ELSE IN HERE. NO. 
          HEY, THANK YOU FOR STICKING IT OUT. YOU GOT A PREVIEW OF IF YOU DO ANYTHING WRONG, YOU KNOW, SCARE ANYONE. WALKED IN THE DOOR AND SAID SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST. SO. AND I HAD TO STAND IN THE HALL FOR BACKS TO SIT FOR SO LONG. JUST AGES ME. THAT'S ALL. IT TELLS ME HOW OLD I AM AND I DO. SLIGHTLY COMFIER CHAIRS THAN YOU DO. SORRY. WELL THAT'S TRUE, I WAS GOING TO SAY I COURAGEOUS BOSS, BUT I DON'T THINK I WANT TO TRADE SPOTS. I'M JUST GOING TO JUMP THIS TO MAKE IT SIMPLE AND EASY. WHERE'S THE BACKWARDS BUTTON? THERE WE GO. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE PDF COPIES. I KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING. OH, OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THE ONLY REASON I WAS SAYING THAT IS GIVE YOU A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE BEFORE WE APPROVED THE. THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE WAY. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK UP. 
          YOU'VE SEEN IT. THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP TO THAT PUD THAT YOU RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR. AS A STAFF REPORT MENTIONED, IT GOES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON THURSDAY NIGHT FOR APPROVAL IF THEY APPROVE IT. AND THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP PORTION OF IT THAT SHOWS THAT EACH LOT WOULD BE BROKEN UP. SO EACH UNIT WOULD BE ITS OWN LOT. YEAH. SO IF I GO. OVER THERE RIGHT NOW BASICALLY TO SHOW YOU THAT EACH ONE WILL HAVE EACH ONE OF THOSE UNITS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE SOLD AND PURCHASED. SO IN MY OPINION, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. MAYBE IT'S A LOT EASIER THAN THE LAST ONE. SO AND I GUESS A BETTER SAFETY ENGINEERING. FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT WE DID VISIT THIS I THINK LAST MONTH OR TWO MONTHS AGO, AND WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ROAD THAT I THINK WE GOT RESOLVED THERE. SO UNLESS ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANY NEW OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO. I BROUGHT UP A BUNCH OF TALKING POINTS LAST TIME, BUT IT'S IN THE PAST ALREADY, SO I THINK WE'RE OVER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WAS I ABSENT THAT DISCUSSION? I THINK IT WAS. I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT FIRE TRUCKS STUFF. 
          YEAH. EITHER THAT OR ABSENT MINDED PERHAPS I DON'T KNOW. WELL I CAN'T REMEMBER. I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION. I NOTE THAT IN THE PED CONCEPT DRAWING, WE'RE SHOWING A AN EGRESS FROM THIS PUD ONTO SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE. THAT EGRESS IS NOT SHOWN ON THE EITHER THE PRELIMINARY OR FINAL PLAT. AND MAYBE THIS IS PERHAPS A QUESTION THAT OUGHT TO GO TO STAFF. 
          ESSENTIALLY, IN THE ABSENCE OF THAT EGRESS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VERY, VERY LONG ROAD. IT WOULD BE A DEAD END WITHOUT THAT ACCESS SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE. MY CONCERN IS WHETHER OR NOT THAT WITHOUT THAT ACCESS WOULD COMPLY WITH THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, WHICH LIMITS. THE LENGTH OF OF BLOCKS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION TO NO MORE THAN 1350 FEET. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS PROBABLY MORE APPROPRIATE TO STAFF. SO MAYBE WE'LL LET YOU OFF THE HOT SEAT AND MAYBE I'LL TRY TO ANSWER MY QUESTION. ANSWER ABOUT THE TIMING OF WHEN THAT ACCESS ONTO SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED. OH, GREAT. WELL, THAT CARRIES GOING TO GIVE ME PERMISSION. QUESTION. MAKE ANY SENSE I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. BEAR WITH ME. AND SO I KNOW THIS IS A BROAD CIRCLE, BUT THIS RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE THE AXIS OF THE SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE. AND THIS IS DONE THROUGH. AND THEN IT GOES AND IT CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING ONE THAT GOES STRAIGHT TO THE SOUTH. SO IT SHOULD BE LET IT BE IN THROUGH PRIVATE STREET WITH ACCESS IN BOTH LOCATIONS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? OKAY. SO THERE WOULD BE A PRIVATE DRIVE. AS I RECALL. THAT'S LIMITED ACCESS. STAFF KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD BE APPROVED. I BELIEVE IT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL. SO. I'LL CHANGE SEATS. YEAH. MIGHT AS WELL. YEAH. 
          [03:40:07]
WE'LL GET THE CITY PRESENTATION REAL QUICK AND THEN WE CAN TAG TEAM IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'LL JUST START FROM THE BEGINNING AND. OKAY. SO THE REQUESTED ACTION TONIGHT IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR ANDERSON TOWNHOMES DIVISION NUMBER TWO TO THE MARIN CITY COUNCIL. THE PROPERTY IS BILL NUMBER 38 WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL. MIXED USE WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY IN 1959, INITIALLY, ZOMBIES ONE, BUT REZONE TO R3 IN 2007 AND THEN PLATTED IN 2008 AS LOT ONE, BLOCK ONE BERKSHIRE APARTMENTS, DIVISION NUMBER ONE. SO AT THAT TIME IT WAS PLANNED TO BE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH ACCESS ON TWO SECONDS. THEN AGAIN, IN 2012, THE 2012 ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN CLASSIFIED. AS SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE AS. AS. 
          PRINCIPAL, A MINOR ARTERIAL, I BELIEVE, WHICH DICTATES SPACING BETWEEN INTERSECTIONS TO 660FT. 
          SO GOING FROM THAT TO WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED, WHICH WAS UNDER THAT 2012 ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN, THIS ACCESS IS ROUGHLY 900FT TO THE NEXT INTERSECTION TO THE SOUTH. 
          THAT WAS REVIEWED, THAT LOCATION, THAT ACCESS WAS REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC WORKS AND FOUND TO BE SATISFACTORY WITH ACCESS AND THROUGH PLANNING AND THE STREET CLASSIFICATION PROJECT. SO IS THERE A ANOTHER ACCESS ONTO SCIENCE CENTER DRIVE? NO. 
          THERE'S THIS. THERE WILL JUST BE THE ONE. THEY WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED. THE ONE. THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED MORE THAN ONE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE TOP HERE IN THE NEXT CLOSEST INTERSECTION IS GOING TO BE. THE INTERSECTION NORTH BOULEVARD AND SCIENCE CENTER. 
          CORRECT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE MEASURED FROM IS THE NEXT CLOSEST INTERSECTION. THEY NEEDED TO BE AT LEAST 660FT IN LENGTH. BUT DUE TO THE CURVE OF THE ROAD AND EVERYTHING AND THE LOCATION OF THAT BILLBOARD, THEY MOVE IT UP TO THE MOST NORTH WESTERN CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY, I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION, I DON'T CARE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? OKAY. SO THE PROPOSED PLOT, THOUGH IT IS APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES WITH 35 LOTS IN ONE COMMON LOT. THAT COMMON LOT IS AN EXTENSION OF BOSTON COURT, WHICH IS THE PRIVATE STREET THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR ANDERSON TOWNHOMES DIVISION ONE JUST SOUTH OF IT. SO IT'S GOING TO EXTEND CONNECT WEST ANDERSON STREET TO. SCIENCE DRIVE WITH PRIVATE STREET BOSTON COURT. THE PARKING. I'M SORRY THE COMMON BOSTON COURT, A PRIVATE STREET, A PARKING LOT AND DESIGNATED AREA FOR SHARED OPEN SPACE AND AMENITIES. THE APPLICANT APPLIED FOR THE PUB WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL, AS WAS MENTIONED FOR CONSIDERATION THIS THURSDAY. ON OCTOBER 9TH, 2025, AND THE FINAL VERSION OF THE PD IS INCLUDED HERE. FOR REFERENCE, THE ARCHERY ZONE ALLOWS FOR A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND SEMI-COMMERCIAL USES, SUPPORTING HIGHER DENSITY AND A BROADER RANGE OF DWELLING TYPES. 
          THE FINAL PLOT HAS A RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF APPROXIMATELY 15 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS LEVEL OF MAXIMUM DENSITY THAT ARE THREE ZONE ALLOWS, WHICH IS 35 UNITS PER ACRE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING PHASE AREA IS AN URBAN CORE WHICH DENOTES A CENTRAL AREA OF THE CITY, ENCOMPASSING DOWNTOWN, SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN, AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE'S. NEARBY SERVICES, ENTERTAINMENT, AND AND OTHER SUCH USES. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE FINAL PLAT, AND THINGS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PROPOSED PD. THE PLAT ALSO MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. WITH THAT EXTENSION OF BOSTON COURT. AND STAFF FINDS. RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE FINAL PLAT. 
          [03:45:04]
ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE, AS FAR AS WHEN THIS ACCESS HAS TO BE BUILT, ANDERSON TOWNHOMES DIVISION ONE HAS 16 UNITS, SO STARTING AT THE 17TH UNIT, ONCE THEY GET TO 30 UNITS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE THIS ACCESS BEFORE THEY CAN HAVE THE 31ST UNIT, INCLUDING THE FIRST DIVISION. 
          SO THAT'S THE TIMELINE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE ASKING. SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE MORE THAN 30 UNITS TOTAL UNTIL THEY GET THERE. YEAH, THAT WAS THE QUESTION. I REALLY TRIED TO PHRASE IT CORRECTLY. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE REGARDING THE ANOTHER TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE ONE OKAY. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO THIS PROJECT. IT'S JUST THE AREA I KNOW WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION ALONG SCIENCE CENTER RIGHT NOW. I THINK IT'S A ROAD IMPROVEMENT IN THE CENTER LANE. IS THAT A IS THAT A MEDIAN ISLAND THAT'S GOING IN THERE? YES. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE I THINK WHERE DOWN IN THIS AREA IS IT THE RAILROAD TRACKS. IS IT BEFORE THE RAILROAD TRACKS OR. WELL YEAH. THEY'RE PUTTING IN MEDIAN BARRIERS. BARRIERS TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF A LEFT TURN AND INVERSE. BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE AROUND. THAT'S NOT AROUND THIS AREA. NO. 
          WE'RE UP FURTHER FROM THERE OKAY. SO THAT'S PAST THE NORTH BOULEVARD INTERSECTION. YES. SO WE'RE JUST RIGHT HERE. AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE COMMISSION? NO OKAY I WOULD I. 
          WHO WANTS TO DO A MOTION. I WILL MAKE A MOTION OKAY. ANYONE WANTS TO SECOND THAT? OH YEAH, I MOVE THAT. WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR ANDERSON TOWNHOMES DIVISION TWO TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO SECOND THAT. I'LL SECOND IT BEFORE BILL GETS. 
          BEATS ME. OKAY. WELL, I'LL CALL THE POLICE COMMISSIONER. CANTU. HI. THANK YOU, I'M SCOTT. HI, TYLER. HI, IAN. HI. HI. MOTION PASSED. OKAY. LAST ITEM. WE ARE ON TO RESOLUTION VALIDATING 
          [5. Resolution validating conformity of the Urban Renewal Plan for the Proposed  Riverside Urban Renewal Plan with the City of Idaho Falls’ Comprehensive Plan. ¹ ]
CONFORMITY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED RIVERSIDE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN WITH THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WAS WADE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT? AND NOW HE'S NOT HERE? CORRECT. SO WE HAD TO LEAVE ANOTHER MEETING. SO YOU GET. HIS PILLOW, YOU GET SECOND STREAM THIS HOUR WITH ME. SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO WORK THROUGH THIS FOR YOU QUICKLY. 
          WE USED TO SAY WE DON'T DO THIS VERY OFTEN, BUT WE DO THIS QUITE A BIT LATELY. SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO CREATE A NEW RIVERSIDE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT. HERE IS A MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WITH THE RED OUTLINING SHOWING THAT DISTRICT. SO LARGELY THIS IS SNAKE RIVER LANDING ALONG SNAKE RIVER PARKWAY BETWEEN THE RIVER AND SNAKE RIVER PARKWAY. REALLY, THE BALANCE OF UNDEVELOPED LAND THERE, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT'S AT, JUST BY WAY OF INFORMATION, IN ORDER TO CREATE A NEW DISTRICT, THERE ARE 15 ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT THIS SITE MEETS 13 OF THOSE 15. SO THE SITE IS ELIGIBLE. THE RENEWAL AGENCY HAS DETERMINED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE DISTRICT, BUT THEN THAT ALSO MEANS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HOW THAT HOW IT ALIGNS WITH THAT. YOU CAN SEE HERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWS IT AS A MIXED USE FROM THE APPLICANTS, THE LANDOWNERS PLANS. I MEAN, THEY'RE INTENDING TO DO COMMERCIAL OFFICE, RETAIL, RESIDENTIAL, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHICH WOULD ALIGN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOUR STAFF REPORT. THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC TABLES THAT COME DIRECTLY FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO REALLY I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN THROUGH CONNECTIVITY, LOOKING AT WALKABILITY, WHICH OF COURSE IS VERY WALKABLE. DIVERSITY OF HOUSING STOCK AFFORDABILITY. IT IS WORKING TOWARDS THAT WITH THE ADDITIONAL HOUSING STOCK THAT'S BEING PLACED, FOCUSES ON INFILL, I GUESS AS THE CITY HAS GROWN AROUND IT, IT IS BECOMING MORE 
          [03:50:02]
AND MORE INFILL. IN THE REGARD OF INFILL. WE HAVE EXISTING UTILITIES AND EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, SO IT MAKES SENSE TO FURTHER DEVELOP THE AREA. AND THEN THAT'S THE IN OLDER AREAS, PORTIONS OF THIS. LET ME SEE IF I HAVE A I DON'T HAVE AN AERIAL BUT PORTIONS OF THIS SITE, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING USES. AN OLD GRAVEL PIT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION, DEBRIS YARD, ETC. THAT WOULD BE REDEVELOPED AS PART OF ALL OF THIS AS WELL. SO WE DO MEET THAT INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT ASPECT OF IT. SO STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE THE DISTRICT HERE IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. ALSO IN YOUR PACKET YOU HAVE A RESOLUTION DOCUMENT. OLD TEXT AT THE TOP JUST A SINGLE PAGE. THIS IS YOUR YOU ARE THE DECISION MAKING BODY WITH REGARD TO THIS ITEM. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION, IT WOULD BE THE BOLD UNDERLINED PORTION THERE AT THE TOP. JUST APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. AND THEN BASICALLY THE STATEMENT THAT'S OUTLINED THERE, I WOULD TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU'VE GOT ANY. BUT THAT'S ALL FOR ME. ANY QUESTIONS FOR CITY STAFF. OH. OH SORRY. YES. GO FOR IT. SO THIS DOES INCLUDE THE AREA THAT WAS ANNEXED FROM THE. YES. YES. GOOD MEMORY. YES. THEY HAD TO REALIGN SOME OF THOSE BOUNDARIES SO THAT THIS COULD ALL BE KIND OF DEVELOPED BACK INTO THIS ONE. IT DOES. SO NOW THIS IS LIKE PART THREE. WE'RE LIKE FINISHING. WE'RE CREATING NOW THIS IS TO HELP CREATE THE NEW ONE. AFTER WE TOOK AWAY SOME OF THE OLD ONE. CORRECT. 
          YEP. YEAH OKAY. COOL. ANYWHERE ELSE. WELL I, I REMEMBER THIS ONE PRETTY WELL. YEAH. IT SEEMS LIKE IT FITS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS IS A VERY YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW AND EXPECT HOW THIS AREA IS GOING TO GO IN AN URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR THIS AREA. MAKES SENSE CONSIDERING THE CITY LOVES ALLOWING GRAVEL PITS ALONG THE RIVER. I'M GLAD TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE FROM US, SO IT'S USUALLY LOOSE ROCK NEXT TO THE RIVER. SO YEAH, LOOSE ROCK, MAYBE SOME WATER. AND 1950S CARS. YEAH. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID. SO DO WE PASS THE RESOLUTION AND THEN WE DO THIS THING, OR IS IT JUST THIS ONE. IT'S JUST THE RESOLUTION OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER IS THE RESOLUTION FROM THE AGENCY WHEN THEY APPROVED THE DISTRICT. OKAY. SO WE'RE JUST DOING ONE THING. CORRECT OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS. OH OKAY. I MOVE THAT. 
          WE PASS THE RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, IDAHO, VALIDATING CONFORMITY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR THE RIVERSIDE URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT WITH THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. YES. ONE SECOND. THAT SECOND. PERFECT. 
          WE WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE. COMMISSIONER. HI. ALL RIGHT. SCOTT, HI. HI. HI. HI. 
          PERFECT. WELL, THAT IS EVERYTHING. THANK YOU ALL FOR REAL. QUICK, BEFORE YOU WRAP UP, IF I WAS GOING TO GIVE THE PERFECT. THANK YOU. HERE I AM, OUT OF ORDER. NO. YOU'RE WRONG. 
          YES. REAL QUICK. IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT. YOU'VE BEEN AWESOME. WE HAVE A LITTLE GIFT FOR EACH OF YOU TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR. I'M JUST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EFFORT WITH THE COMMISSION. WE TRY TO DO SOMETHING EACH YEAR. WE'VE DONE BARBECUES IN THE SUMMER BEFORE. WE'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, BREAKFAST TRAININGS WITH BACON AND PANCAKES AND OTHER THINGS. AND THIS YEAR IS JUST OUR SCHEDULES ARE REALLY BUSY. SO WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING AND APPRECIATION. AND THEN I'LL JUST TELL YOU NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, JUST PLEASE REMEMBER IT'S ON WEDNESDAY THE FIFTH, OKAY? NOT TUESDAY, BECAUSE TUESDAY IS ELECTION DAY. SO NORMALLY IN THE PAST WE'VE MOVED IT TO THE NEXT WEEK. BUT TUESDAY, THE NEXT WEEK IS VETERAN'S DAY. SO WE JUST MOVED IT TO WEDNESDAY RATHER THAN THE TUESDAY. MUCH LIGHTER AGENDA. ALTHOUGH THERE MIGHT BE IMPACT FEES ON THAT AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WOULD BE CONTROVERSIAL OR NOT, BUT MOST EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST STANDARD. SO A COUPLE TIMES THAT WAS THE YES. AND THERE IS A POTENTIAL IT MIGHT BE DELAYED AGAIN. SO ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL THANKS EVERYONE FOR THIS EVENING. AND MEETING IS 
          [03:55:04]
ADJOURNED. YES OKAY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.