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TIME.[1. Call To Order]
WE CORMAN.IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK SO WE'LL GET THE GET STARTED.
UH, WELCOME EVERYBODY TO OUR PLANNING ZONING MEETING.
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A REVIEW OF OUR MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.SORRY, THE MINUTES LAST MEETING, JUNE 3RD.
UM, THERE WAS ONE COMMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT, I HADN'T NOTICED OR COMPARED TO OTHER MINUTES, BUT WHERE IT SAYS OPEN PUBLIC HEARING, THEN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF I THINK MAYBE GOES DOWN HERE BEFORE NOBODY WENT.
AND THAT'S ON EACH OF THE ITEMS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THAT WAS THE ONLY CORRECTION.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR CORRECTIONS OR THINGS THAT PEOPLE HAVE NOTICED? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES WITHOUT CORRECTION.
THE RESOLUTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[3.I. 7:00 PM RZN25-011: Amendment to Section 11-3-4 Dimensional Standards for Residential Zones; 11-7-1, Definitions of Title 11, Comprehensive Zoning Code. Zoning Ordinance Amendment for Residential Setbacks with Alley Access.]
ALRIGHT, WE'LL NOW HAVE OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM AMENDMENT TO SECTION 11 DASH 3.4 DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONES.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
UM, SO THIS IS A ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU, UM, AS WE PROMISED BEFORE.
SO THIS IS A AMENDMENT TO SECTIONS 11 DASH THREE DASH FOUR DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND 11 DASH SEVEN DASH ONE DEFINITIONS OF TITLE 11 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA START WITH THE STAFF COMMENTS.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL SETBACKS AND WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS IT'LL ALLOW A REDUCED FRONT SETBACK WHEN A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ALLEY IS PRESENT.
SO LET ME KIND OF GO THROUGH, SO UP ON THE SCREEN HERE, AND I'VE KIND OF BROKE IT APART INTO TWO PARTS, BUT THIS IS OUR DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONES, THE SETBACKS.
SO, UM, THE SETBACK IS GOING TO BE THE DISTANCE FROM THE FOUNDATION TO THE PROPERTY LINE, JUST IN CASE HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT
UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THESE ARE OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND OUR SETBACKS ARE LAID OUT HERE.
AND STAFF KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT A WAY ON HOW TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY, UM, TO FACILITATE KIND OF SMALLER BUILDING FOOTPRINTS TO GIVE DEVELOPER, UH, MORE OPTIONS AND HOW TO USE THEIR BOT.
AND SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS DEFINITION THAT WOULD CHANGE THE FRONT SETBACK, UM, FOR THOSE ZONE.
SO IN THE ZONING ORDINANCES YOU HAVE THE TABLE AND THEN THESE ARE THE, UM, ADDITIONAL NOTES IN THAT TABLE.
SO REALLY THAT BIG CHANGE THOUGH IT IS ONE SIMPLE SENTENCE IS IN THE RP R ONE AND R TWO ZONES.
UH, THE FRONT SETBACK CAN BE REDUCED TO 15 FEET WHEN VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY COMES FROM A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ALLEY.
NOW, IF I, SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THIS WOULD ALLOW IF RIGHT, YOU HAVE A FRONT SETBACK.
IF THE ACCESS FOR THE, UH, FOR A CAR, YOUR PARKING COMES FROM THE ALLEY, THEN THE HOME COULD BE MOVED UP 15 FEET.
AND SO AS WE GO BACK ON HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TN R THREE, R THREE A ZONE AND RMH ZONE ALREADY HAVE THAT 15 FOOT FRONT STEP BACK.
THE RRP R ONE AND R TWO HAVE A 30 25 20 WITH A SETBACK.
SO WHAT THIS DOES IS THOSE SETBACKS WOULD STILL BE IN PLACE, BUT IF YOU WERE TO HAVE ADD A PRIVATE ALLEY OR HAVE ACCESS TO A PUBLIC ALLEY, THEY CAN MOVE UP TO 15 FEET, 15 FEET.
WHEN WE DISCUSSED, THIS WAS REALLY THE, UM, THE, WHEN YOU NEED A EASEMENT IN THE FRONT OF YOUR HOME, USUALLY FOR POWER 15 FEET WAS KIND OF LIKE BARE MINIMUM.
AND SO WE FELT LIKE 15 FEET WAS WHAT WE COULD WORK WITH WITH THE OTHER UTILITIES.
NOW IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE, UM, THE OTHER PROPOSED CHANGE IS THAT THE REAR SETBACK COULD BE REDUCED TO THREE FEET IN ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONE IF THE REAR OF YARD IS CONTIGUOUS TO A PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ALLEY.
SO THE 15 FOOT FRONT AND THREE FOOT REAR SETBACKS ARE CONSISTENT WITH SETBACKS IN OTHER ZONES THAT HAVE EXISTING ALLEYS.
SO THAT WOULD COME, GO ACROSS THE OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONES AS WELL.
THESE CHANGES DO GIVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY TO DIFFERENT BUILDING FOOTPRINTS, UM, ON A LOT, THERE'S MORE OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR ALSO DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES.
THE SETBACKS AS THEY WERE KIND OF HAD SOME LIMITATIONS.
AND SO WHAT'S IT ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS, WELL, YOU SEE THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN PLANNING EVERY DAY.
THE DEVELOPER IS WORKING WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS REQUIREMENTS AND POWER
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AND FIRE.AND THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE ALL THE DIFFERENT CODES AND, AND PUT, I MEAN ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND PUT UP A BUILDING FOOTPRINT, RIGHT? SO BY MAKING THIS CHANGE, WE KIND OF MAKE IT SO IT GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY CAN MEET REQUIREMENTS FROM THE OTHERS, UM, DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW, SO BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING YOU COULD PUT YOUR, UH, UTILITIES IN THE ALLEY POSSIBLY RATHER THAN ALL UP FRONT.
UH, PUBLIC WORKS HAS A STANDARD FOR DRIVEWAYS THAT ONLY ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF 50% OF THE FRONTAGE DRIVEWAYS.
THIS IS ALSO TO PROVIDE STORAGE SPACE FOR UTILITY BOXES, METERS, VALVE PITS, UM, LANDSCAPING'S, NO STORAGE.
SO SOME OF THOSE SMALLER LOTS, IT'S HARD TO FIT EVERYTHING IN THERE.
AND WE FELT LIKE PUTTING IN ACCESS TO THE ALLEY AND MOVING THAT UP FRONT GIVES MORE ABILITY FOR ALL THOSE UTILITIES TO BE IN THERE FOR PRIOR ACCESS FOR A PLANNING STANDPOINT.
IT ALSO VERY MUCH KIND OF ACTIVATES THE STREET HAVING MORE FRONT AND NOT JUST HAVING DRIVEWAYS.
AND WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES.
UM, KIND OF SHOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ENGAGED, UH, STREET FRONT AS WELL.
SO THIS ALSO HELPS ACCOMPLISH THIS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
UM, A COMMON CHARACTERISTIC OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING IS SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZED BUILDING FOOTPRINTS.
THEY'RE REMARKABLE TO DIFFERENT HOMEOWNERS.
THERE'S HOUSING CHOICE IN FRONTAGES, HAVE MORE OPTIONS FOR PORCHES, WALKABILITY, ALL OF THAT.
SO WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A CHANGE THAT COULD REALLY HELP ACCOMPLISH A LOT OF GOALS FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORDINANCES AND DEPARTMENTS.
UM, THE OTHER CHANGE THAT WE MADE, SO RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT DEFINITION OF AN ALLEY IS A PUBLIC WAY, PRIMARILY FOR UTILITY USE AND FOR SURVEYING THE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ALLEY.
SO WE JUST KIND OF WERE MORE CLEARER DEFINITIONS OF THAT.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER CODE CHANGE.
UM, AND WE SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE PUBLIC ALLEYS IN THE CITY, THEY ARE PLATTED THAT WAY.
MOVING FORWARD, THE OPTION YOU WOULD HAVE WOULD BE A PRIVATE ALLEY WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
SO I'M GONNA KIND OF GO THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES.
SO THIS IS, UH, PROVIDENCE POINT, WHICH IS SOUTH, UH, BY 49TH.
THE ZONING IS R ONE SINGLE DWELLING RESIDENTIAL.
AND THESE DO HAVE AN ALLEY, UM, THAT IS A PRIVATE ALLEY.
AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY BUILT TWO STANDARD SETBACKS.
SO IT HAS 25 FEET, UM, AND THE 25 FEET FROM THE REAR.
BUT THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SMALLER LOTS.
AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE POINT THIS IS GONNA BE, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ALLEY AND THEN THIS IS THE STREET FRONTAGE OF IT.
THIS SUBDIVISION IS, UH, CARRIAGE GATE.
THIS WAS ALSO R ONE SINGLE DOLING RESIDENTIAL.
THIS ONE ALSO HAD TO ACTUALLY HAVE A CUP, SO IT HAD TO HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVED FOR REDUCED SETBACK TO 20 FEET TO MAKE THIS ONE WORK.
UM, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY HAVE A PRIVATE ALLEY WITH THE REAR LOADED GARAGES.
THESE ARE OUR T AND TRADITIONAL LOCKS, UM, HIGHLAND PARK.
AND THESE ARE ORIGINAL PLATTED BLOCKS.
UH, THEY'RE STANDARD SETBACKS AND THEY'RE IN THE, UH, T AND TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONE.
SO THERE'S THE TWO STORY ONES AND THE SINGLE STORY.
SO YOU HAVE THIS ENGAGED STREETSCAPE, PORCHES, UH, SIDEWALKS THAT CONNECT TO THE, UH, SIDEWALK.
SO THIS EXAMPLE, THIS IS, UH, IF YOU LOOK, I GO BACK, THESE ONES ARE ALONG FREMONT.
AND THEN IF YOU GO NORTH A LITTLE BIT, THIS IS FREMONT AS WELL.
AND THEN THIS OTHER SIDE I WANT TO SAY IS ELMORE.
SO THIS, THIS PICTURE IS, THIS IS THE ALLEYWAY BEFORE IT WAS IMPROVED.
AND THEN THIS IS IT AFTERWARDS.
SO THE OLD IN THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THESE ALREADY PUBLIC FLAT LOTS, YOU CAN SEE HOW BIG OF A DIFFERENT IT IS.
JUST TO HAVE THAT ALLEY HAVE THAT REAR LOADED AND HAVE THAT ALLEY BE IMPROVED FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S A LOT MORE WELCOMING, EVEN FROM AN ALLEY PERSPECTIVE.
THIS IS ON, UH,
BUT YOU CAN SEE THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THAT THREE FOOT CLOSE TO THE ALLEY.
IT'S NOT QUITE BUILT, BUT THIS IS WHERE THE ROAD, THE ALLEY WOULD BE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THERE'S KIND OF A SHORTER ONE HERE WITH THESE GARAGES.
SO WANTED TO BRING UP SOME EXAMPLES TOO.
AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT GIVING CHOICE OF DEVELOPER TO, TO DO DRIVEWAYS AND GARAGES IN THE FRONT OR IN THE REAR.
UM, BUT THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES HERE.
I WANTED TO SHOW KIND OF THE BENEFITS OF HAVING IN THE REAR AND, AND GIVING THOSE OPTIONS.
SO THIS IS, YOU HAVE SPARROW HILLS RIGHT HERE.
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RIGHT UP HERE.AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THESE SINGLE UNIT DETACHED LARGER LOTS, RIGHT? YOUR STANDARD DEVELOPMENTS.
BUT THEN ON DELAWARE STREET THEY HAVE TWIN HOMES.
SO TWO HOMES ON TWO SINGLE LOTS WITH A SHARED WALL.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, UM, FOOTPRINTS, SMALLER HOMES, AND THEY ARE NOT REAR LOADED.
THIS ONE MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TO BE REAR LOADED, BUT YOU CAN SEE ALL THE DRIVEWAYS THERE.
AND SO THIS IS A STREET VIEW, SO YOU CAN SEE AS YOU WALK THROUGH, RIGHT, THAT AS A PEDESTRIAN, IT'S INTERRUPTED A LOT BY THOSE DRIVEWAYS.
AND AS YOU WALK, YOU'RE ENDING UP KIND OF WATCHING FOR CARS.
UH, AND IT CAN BE A LITTLE DISJOINT.
AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS A PATHWAY HERE.
SO IT'S POSSIBLE IT COULD HAVE DONE ALLEY ACCESS.
UM, IT WAS DONE BY A PUD, BUT THE STREETSCAPE, YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THEIR SIDEBARS WEREN'T EVEN BUILT.
AND SO NOW YOU JUST HAVE DRIVEWAYS.
SO IF YOU'RE A PEDESTRIAN WALKING IT, IT'S MAYBE NOT QUITE SURE WHERE TO WALK.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.
THIS IS, UH, ALICE STREET, WHICH IS, UM, SOUTH.
AND THIS ONE IS AN OLDER, UH, DEVELOPMENT, THEIR TOWN HOMES.
THE PARKING IS IN THE REAR THERE.
THESE ARE 10 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT? WITH THAT DRIVEWAY IN THE BACK.
UM, THERE'S NO INTERRUPTION YOU CAN WALK THROUGH.
THIS ONE IS OLDER, SO IT'S MORE MATURE LANDSCAPING.
UM, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE, THE FEEL IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ONES WHERE THEY ARE IN THE FRONT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS GIVES, THIS GIVES CHOICE.
SO WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO IT.
THIS JUST GIVES A LOT MORE CHOICE THAN THE DEVELOPER TO CREATE DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING CHOICES.
AND IT HELPS OUR DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE BECAUSE WE, WE WERE RUNNING INTO DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, UTILITIES AND DRIVEWAYS AND PUBLIC WORKS.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A HAPPY GROUND TO MEET FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WHERE GOALS CAN BE MET, UH, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
I'M JUST GOING TO, DO YOU HAVE A 15 FOOT FRONT SETBACK? DOES THAT REQUIRE THEM THEN TO PROVIDE VEHICULAR ACCESS FROM THE REAR? BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 15 FEET FROM THE STREET TO THE GARAGE, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO PARK THE CAR WITHOUT BLOCKING SIDES.
SO THE WAY THE CODE WOULD READ, UM, IS YOU CAN EITHER DO THE STANDARD SETBACK OF 30, 25, UH, 20 FEET, OR YOU CAN DO 15 FEET IF IT IS REAR LOADED WITH A PRIVATE ALLEY.
SO THE PRIVATE ALLEY WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENT IN ORDER TO GAIN THAT 15 FOOTPRINT SETBACK.
AND, AND, AND SO WOULD THAT THAT REQUIRE SAY, THE GARAGE TO BE IN THE ALLEY? YES.
DOES THIS AFFECT, UH, ESTABLISHED SUBDIVISION? NO.
SO IF, IF, IF, UH, IF WE'RE IN AN ESTABLISHED SUBDIVISION, SAY WITH A PUBLIC ALLEY AND SOMEONE WANTS TO REMODEL, THEN, THEN ARE THEY, HOW DOES THIS AFFECT THEM? THEY, IF IF THEY WANTED TO, IF THEY HAD A PUBLIC ALLEY ALREADY AND THEY WANTED TO MOVE THEIR PARKING AND PUT A GARAGE IN THE BACK, THEY COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN THE TN ZONE.
BUT THEN, BUT THEN THEY THEN BE ABLE TO MOVE, IF THEY WANTED TO MOVE THEIR STRUCTURE OR FOR THE FLOOR, THEY COULD, THE TM ZONE, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED THEN TO HAVE A GARAGE IN, IN THE ALLEY.
IS THAT KIND OF HOW THIS WOULD WORK? YES.
AND, AND THE TM ZONE, THIS HAS HAPPENS A LOT IN THE TM ZONE, UM, WHERE THAT PUBLIC ALLEY IS MOSTLY PRESENT.
THE TN ZONE HAS A MINIMUM SETBACK OF 15 AND A MAXIMUM OF 20.
SO THEY COULD MEET THAT WITHOUT THIS CODE AMENDMENT IF THEY WANTED TO.
UM, SO WHEN YOU SAY I, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION.
WHEN YOU SAY THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE, UM, DIFFERENT STREETS ARE D YOU KNOW, HAVE DIFFERENT, WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS.
SOMETIMES YOU HAVE CURB TIGHT SIDEWALKS, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPE STRIP.
UM, IN THE TN ZONE, OFTEN THE PROPERTY LINE IS TECHNICALLY ON THE INSIDE OF EVEN THE SIDEWALK.
SO EVEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE LANDSCAPE STRIP AREN'T EVEN
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PART OF THE CITY IF I OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, IF I UNDERSTAND.SO IS THAT SETBACK, I GUESS? WHERE'S THE SETBACK? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE STREETS THAT ARE DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY FOR SAFETY.
IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
DEPENDING ON WHATEVER THAT PROPERTY LINE IS.
WHETHER IT'S ON THIS SIDE OR THAT SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK.
THE MAJORITY OF THE OF, UH, THE PROPERTY LINE IS BEHIND THAT SIDEWALK.
THERE ARE INSTANCES ON THE INSIDE, YES, THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS INCLUDED, BUT OKAY.
AND IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, I WAS GRABBING MY PEN WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE REAR
UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT SETBACKS, I GUESS, FOR THE REAR AND WHAT DOES THE ALLEYWAY, WHAT, WHAT'S, I GUESS WHAT ARE THE PROPOSED CHANGES FOR HER REAR? I'M, I'M SORRY.
SO IF YOU LOOK UP HERE IN THE RP R ONE AND R TWO, THE REAR SETBACK IS 25 FEET FOR ANY STRUCTURE.
FOR ANY, WELL, FOR A PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
OH, FOR A PRIMARY AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT SETBACK, BUT THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS THAT 25 FEET, THEY CAN IF THEY WANT TO.
SO WHAT ALLOWS IS THEY COULD GO UP TO THREE FEET TO THAT ALLEY FOR A PRIMARY S FOR A PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
IN WHICH ZONES, AGAIN? IN, UH, IN THE RPR ONE, R TWO, AND THEN THE TN WILL IT BE ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
IS TN ALREADY LIKE THAT? YES, THAT'S, YES.
SO THAT IS, THAT CHANGE IS FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONES WHERE IT WAS JUST TN.
SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S AGAIN, NOT SOMETHING NEW.
WE WOULD JUST BE EXPANDING INTO OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
I, QUICK QUESTION ON THAT NUMBER EIGHT ADDITION.
WHY DID WE SETTLE ON THREE FEET FROM SOME OF THE PHOTOS? EVEN THAT SEEMS SMALL TO ME AND, AND EVEN FROM SOME OF THE PHOTOS IS, WOULD WE HAVE A MINIMUM ALLEY WIDTH IF YOU'RE GONNA GO THREE FEET? I BELIEVE THE MINIMUM ALLEY WIDTH WAS 20 FEET.
RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE HAVING TO USE THAT AS THE DRIVEWAY.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE IF YOU HAD THAT GARAGE AND IT'D BE THREE FEET UP, SO YOU'RE KIND OF PULLING INTO YOUR GARAGE.
UM, AGAIN, IT GIVES THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR, OUR LOT SIZES, RIGHT, IT'S HARD IN AN R TWO TO DO THAT 6,000 MINIMUM LOT SIZE TO DO THE SMALLER LOTS AND MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY.
SO THIS GIVES MORE FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE THOSE SMALLER LOT SIZES AND DO HAVE THOSE UP CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE GARAGES.
AND DID WE SETTLE ON THREE FEET? 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT ALREADY IS IN TN.
UM, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT JUST TO PIG BACK OFF OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UM, THERE ARE, I LIVE IN A TM ZONE AND I'VE NOTICED SOME PEOPLE BUILD SOME GARAGES, UM, IN THE TM ZONE OFF OF THE HIGHWAY.
AND I, THESE ARE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT THREE FOOT RULE.
UM, AND THEY'LL PUT IT RIGHT AT THREE FEET.
THERE SEEMS TO BE ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PULL IN.
THEY MIGHT HAVE TO DO A TWO POINT TURN MAYBE, BUT PEOPLE ARE GLAD TO DO THAT, UM, IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THEIR, THEIR SPACE.
AND IF SOMEONE DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT A NEW STRUCTURE OR WHATEVER, THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT.
OR THEY COULD HAVE IT FURTHER BACK IF THEY REALLY WANTED TO PARK THEIR BIG TRUCK OR WHATEVER.
BUT FOR MOST SMALLER TO MEDIUM SIZED CARS THAT THEY CAN GET IN PRETTY GOOD.
SO FROM ANECDOTALLY, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN JUST IN LIVING THERE, SO, AND WHEN WE ORIGINALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, WE WERE FOCUSING REALLY ON R TWO.
UM, BECAUSE R TWO HAS AN 80% LOT COVERAGE, WHICH IS, UH, COVERAGE FOR ROOF STRUCTURES.
AND AGAIN, YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET THAT WITH HOW THE SETBACKS WERE.
AND SO TO OPTIMIZE YOUR LOT ON, ON A SMALLER LOT LIKE R TWO, IT DOES GIVE YOU JUST MORE ABILITY TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT TYPE HOME YOU'RE GONNA BUILD AND GIVE THAT HOUSING CHOICE, WHICH WE THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, PROVIDENCE POINTS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, SMALLER HOMES IN, IN THE REAR LOADED, BUT THERE'S ALSO SINGLE UNIT DETACHED HOMES.
AND SO IT BECOMES A HOUSING CHOICE WITHIN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD YOURSELF, RIGHT? YOU CAN START OUT THERE IF YOU LOVE YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU LOVE THE SCHOOLS, YOU LOVE WHERE YOU ARE, THE ABILITY TO STAY WITHIN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT HAVE HOUSING CHOICE WE THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND SO WE'RE HOPING THIS CAN GIVE MORE OPTIONS FOR THAT TYPE OF, OF, UM, OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, SINCE YOU TOUCHED ON LOT COVERAGE, UM, I'M CURIOUS WITH THE CHANGES TO SETBACK RULES, BUT NOT A CORRESPONDING CHANGE IN LOT COVERAGE PERCENTAGE, UM, WHERE YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY INTRODUCING THAT MUCH FLEXIBILITY FOR BUILDERS.
I BELIEVE FOR THE, UM, THE 40% WE, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT CHANGING LOT COVERAGE, BUT I, IT STILL GIVES A,
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I THINK MORE FLEXIBILITY EVEN WITH THAT 40% BLOCK COVERAGE.IS, IS THE GOAL TO ENCOURAGE ALLEY ACCESS TO, TO ENCOURAGE BUILDERS TO MEET COMMUNITIES WITH REAR LOADED ALLEYS THOUGH JUST, AND THEN THE HOUSE CAN SHIP FORWARD? IT, IT, I BELIEVE IT'S REALLY TO ENCOURAGE, UM, THE ABILITY TO HAVE DIFFERENT HOUSING STYLES AND HAVING DIFFERENT HOUSING FOOTPRINTS AND TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, FIRE AND UTILITIES AND THOSE DRIVEWAYS TO DO THE 50% DRIVEWAY WITH A SMALLER HOME AND LIKE AN R TWO.
IT JUST, IT WASN'T WORKING RIGHT.
UM, AND THIS WAS NOT ONLY WAS THIS SOMETHING THAT WAS, THAT WE'VE WORKED ON, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD DEVELOPERS TALK TO US ABOUT TOO.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY NO AND I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I JUST WANT TO BE CONSIDERING WHAT ELSE WE COULD CHANGE.
KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, BUT, UH, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE MY USUAL SPIEL.
WE'LL JUST OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL OPEN DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION.
OTHERWISE I'LL, IF I'M A DEVELOPER OF DEVELOPING LOTS LIKE THIS AND I CHOOSE TO HAVE A PRIVATE ALLEY, UH, JUST DOES THE PROPERTY LINE GO INTO THE ALLEY OR IS THAT PUBLIC? I MEAN, WHO OWNS THE ALLEY AND IS THAT MAKING THE LOT SIZE SMALL BY HAVING THE PRIVATE ALLEY? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT FOR US? SURE.
UM, IN THE CASE OF A PRIVATE ALLEY, LIKE HERE WITH PROVIDENCE POINT, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, THERE'S KIND OF A FAINT LINE THAT GOES DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE ALLEY THAT IS ACTUALLY THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
SO WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS, I MEAN, THEIR LOT LINES GO TO THAT MIDDLE AND THEN THEY'VE, UH, PROVIDED AN ACCESS EASEMENT THROUGH THERE THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THE ALLEY.
SO FROM A SETBACK STANDPOINT, THAT SETBACK IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE TAKEN FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH WOULD BE THE CENTER OF THE ALLEY.
OF COURSE, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLACE ANY STRUCTURES WITHIN ANY, WITHIN ANY EASE, WITHIN ANY EASEMENT OF ANY KIND.
SO THEY COULDN'T PLACE A STRUCTURE WITHIN THAT ACCESS EASEMENT.
UH, MOST LIKELY YOU'D ALSO HAVE UTILITIES RUNNING BACK HERE AS WELL, WHICH YOU COULDN'T PLACE A STRUCTURE WITHIN ANY UTILITY EASEMENT.
AND SO THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO, THAT STRUCTURE WOULD A MINIMUM NEED TO BE OFF OF THAT EASEMENT.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, THEN, YOUR EASEMENT WOULD BE, LET'S SAY 10 FEET ON EACH SIDE? CORRECT.
AND YOU COULD, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BUILD IN THE EASEMENT IF YOU HAD A THREE FOOT EVEN SPOT FROM THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE THERE.
YOU'D HAVE A 13 FOOT ON EACH SIDE? WELL, NO, YOU'D END UP WITH JUST 10 FEET ON EACH SIDE.
IF, IF YOUR REAR SETBACK IS THREE FEET, THAT THREE FEET IS FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, THAT REAR PROPERTY LINE, BUT YOU'RE, YOU CAN'T BUILD WITHIN THE EASEMENT, SO YOUR REAR SETBACK AUTOMATICALLY BECOMES 10 FEET.
IT WOULDN'T BE ADDED TO THE CORRECT, BUT THE BUILDER WOULD POTENTIALLY DO MORE IF THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS RIGHT, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR THE PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUILDING, UM, AND WHAT, WHO THEIR MARKET IS, WHO THEIR BUYER IS, THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT ACCORDINGLY.
LIKE YOU SEE HERE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROVIDING THAT ADDITIONAL DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO THEIR BUYERS, WHEREAS THEY COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE STRUCTURE JUST SLIGHTLY OFF THE EASEMENT IF THEY WANTED IT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU COMMISSIONER SCOTT? COULD YOU GO BACK FORWARD? YEAH, I THINK SO.
UM, BUT SO THE, THE, THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE COULD ACTUALLY BE THEM ON RIGHT, ON THE EDGE OF THE ALLEY, CORRECT.
BECAUSE THAT'S STILL 10 FEET, THAT'S STILL 10 PLUS CORRECT.
COULD YOU GO FORWARD TO THE PHOTO OF, I THINK IT'S THE RIVERFRONT TOWN HOMES, THE ONES THAT ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AND THE BACK OF THAT LOT? YEAH.
SO I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THESE THAT, THAT, UH, ALLEYWAY IS PAVED NOW AND THE PAVEMENT GOES RIGHT UP TO THE BACK OF THOSE GARAGES.
UM, AND SO THAT'S PROBABLY TECHNICALLY OFF OF THE EASEMENT.
IT STILL COMES RIGHT UP TO WHAT IS NOW THE ALLEYWAY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY LINE PROBABLY EXTENDS BEHIND THERE.
BUT THAT ALLEYWAY IS PROBABLY MAYBE A LITTLE WIDER.
UM, ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE OR CONCERN IS THESE TALKING INTO
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MY NAME, UM, THESE ALLEYWAYS THAT ARE NOW GONNA BE JUST PRIVATE ALLEYWAYS, HOW ARE HOAS USUALLY HAVE TO BE SET UP IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN 'EM WITH, UH, SNOW REMOVAL AND STUFF? UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT DO YOU NORMALLY SEE? BECAUSE LIKE, YOU CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN RELY ON EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT DOING THEIR OWN DRIVEWAY AND THEIR PORTION OF THE ALLEY, ESSENTIALLY.SO IS IT HOAS ARE USUALLY JUST PROVIDING SNOW REMOVAL FOR THE WHOLE THING? YES.
TYPICALLY THE HOA IS MAINTAINING THAT.
BUT YOU COULD TECHNICALLY DO A WHOLE PRIVATE ALLY WITHOUT NHOA.
THE CITY DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE THE HOA, I MEAN, YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO MANAGE THAT TYPICALLY.
BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE NORMALLY SEEING, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHENEVER I HEAR PRIVATE, I'M JUST LIKE, OH NO, SOMEONE'S NOT GONNA HOLD UP THEIR END OF THE DEAL.
YOU KNOW, IT STRESSES ME OUT, BUT ALREADY SEEING YEAH.
WHENEVER THERE ARE COMMON FEATURES LIKE THAT, THEN YOU TYPICALLY WILL SEE AN HOA OKAY.
VERSUS THESE, UH, PUBLIC ALLEYWAYS, LIKE THIS GUY RIGHT HERE.
WHAT DOES THE CITY END UP PLOWING THAT? BECAUSE NOW THERE IS DRIVEWAYS OFF OF IT VERSUS LIKE IN THE TN ZONE ON MY SCREEN ON 10, THEY DON'T PLOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY PUBLIC ALLEY WOULD BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR SNOW REMOVAL AND MAINTENANCE.
SO ALLEYS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE LOWEST ITEM ON THE PLOW SCHEDULE.
AND ON THE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE.
BUT IT IS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY WHEN IT'S A PUBLIC VALLEY.
TECHNICALLY YOU'RE GETTING CLOUD, YOU JUST HAVE, WHICH NEVER HAPPENS.
BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE NO, WE ONLY HAVE ONE GARAGE OFF OF OUR ALLEYWAY, SO IT PROBABLY, IT PROBABLY IS ALSO BASED OFF OF A NEED TOO.
IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE ON THE SCHEDULE, BUT IF THERE'S NO ONE NEED TO USE IT, THEY PROBABLY JUST DON'T EVEN DO IT AT ALL.
THAT, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? SURE.
RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR AMENDMENT SECTIONS 11 DASH THREE DASH FOUR DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL ZONES 11 DASH SEVEN DASH ONE DEFINITIONS OF TITLE 11 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND A THANK YOU.
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[4.I. 7:00 PM PLT25-049: FINAL PLAT for Creekside Village Division No. 1. Government Lot 1, Section 7, Township 2 North, Range 38 East. Located north of MK Simpson Boulevard, east of N 5 W, south of W 33 N, west of N Boulevard.]
ALRIGHT, NEXT UP.FINAL PLAT FOR CREEKSIDE VILLAGE DIVISION ONE.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE STAFF? OH, YOU ARE.
JUST YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.
I'M NEIL HUMPHREY WITH EAGLE ROCK ENGINEERING 1331 FREMONT AVENUE HERE IN IDAHO FALLS.
AND YEAH, TONIGHT WE'RE JUST, UM, LOOKING FOR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CREEKSIDE DIVISION ONE.
THE GENERAL AREA IS JUST NORTH OF IL COMPLEX ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF FIFTH WEST AND, UM, THIRD, THIRD NORTH, THE FINAL PLAT INCLUDES, UM, A TOTAL OF ROUGHLY 27.4 ACRES.
SEVEN LOTS ARE INCLUDED IN THAT FINAL PLA I MIGHT, UH, SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO WORK FOR US HERE.
SO THERE'S THE FINAL PLAT, UM, SEVEN LOTS, FOUR BUILDABLE LOTS, AND THE FOUR NON BUILDABLE, UM, OR THE THREE MOUNT BUILDABLE, SORRY, INCLUDE KIND OF THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER AND OPEN SPACE LOT AND THEN TWO LOTS, UM, THAT KIND OF PARALLEL THAT NORTH SOUTH RUNNING ROAD.
UM, JUST TO ALLOW A PATHWAY FOR WILLOW CREEK TO WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION.
UM, THERE ARE TWO INTERNAL ROADS OR PRIMARY INTERNAL ROADS, UH, BOTH JUST, UH, 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT CONNECT THE SUBDIVISION TO FIFTH WEST AND 33RD NORTH.
THE DEVELOPER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO, UH, IMPROVE THEIR HALF OF 33RD NORTH AND ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CITY FOR, UM, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ON FIFTH WEST SINCE IT'S AN ARTERIAL STREET.
UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, UM, BUT JUST SHOOT FROM THE HIP.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? NO, GO AHEAD.
I I I BELIEVE WHEN WE LOOK JUST BEFORE THERE'S BEEN CONCERN ABOUT WILLOW CREEK OCCASIONALLY FLOODING MM-HMM
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CURIOUS WHAT KIND OF PLANS YOU HAVE FOR LITTLE CREEK.WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON STAFF REVIEWS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS TO PAIR WITH THIS FINAL PLAT.
UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT'S NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS ON THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS, UM, FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.
UM, THE IDEA IS TO KIND OF LEAVE WILLOW CREEK AS IS AND NOT REALLY TOUCH IT.
SO OUR GRADING PLAN WILL KIND OF KEEP THE TOP OF BANK WHERE IT'S AT APPARENTLY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DOES ANYTHING FOR YOU, BUT, UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE, THE FLOODING I GUESS HASN'T BEEN A CONCERN THAT WE WERE AWARE OF BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND THE TOPOGRAPHY THERE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE WESTERN PART OF THAT PROPERTY IS LOWER PROPERTY.
SO THERE, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE REMEMBERING, MAYBE NOT, BUT THE, THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE A PRIVATE DITCH THAT RUNS NORTH TO SOUTH ALONG THE, UH, THE EAST SIDE.
UM, AND IT FLOWS NORTH TO SOUTH AND THAT IS BUILT UP A LITTLE BIT WITH AN EMBANKMENT AND THE ELEVATION OF THE DITCH WATER IN THAT IS WELL ABOVE THE ELEVATION OF THE MAJORITY OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND THERE'S SOME SEEPAGE THAT DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TO TIME YOU THE CONCERN.
AND WE HAVE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, ON THE IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
SO OUR GRADING PLAN WILL, UH, SEEK TO KIND OF RAISE THAT AREA UP A LITTLE BIT THAT DOES SEE THE SEEPAGE ISSUE AS WELL AS I THINK WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING DITCH BANK TO, UH, HELP WITH THAT.
SO AGAIN, THE REQUESTED ACTION TONIGHT IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL FLAT FOR, UH, CREEKSIDE VILLAGE TO THE MARON CITY COUNCIL.
TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY, YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER IT, IT'S NOT BEEN TOO LONG AGO, BUT, UM, THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2021.
IT HAS AN INITIAL ZONING OF R THREE, WHICH IS MULTIPLE DWELLING RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR THIS WAS APPROVED BACK IN JUNE OF 2023.
UM, AND THIS DID AT THE, AT THE PRELIMINARY PLAT STAGE, HAVE A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY.
UM, THE LOTS WILL ACCESS LIKE K NEIL SAID THAT INTERNAL STREET, UM, AND THEN ALSO COME OUT ON AN ARTERIAL THERE, WHICH IS, UM, 33RD NORTH, WHICH IS A MAJOR CLUSTER, EXCUSE ME, UH, PRE-BED WAY, WHICH IS IN THIS PLA I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER.
NEELY MAY HAVE TO HELP ME OUT.
SO THIS IS CREEK SIDEWAY THAT WILL BE A LOCAL COLLECTOR THAT'S BEING DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
UM, AND THEN SMOOTH STONE LANE IS THE STREET THAT GOES EAST TO WEST, OR EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME.
GOT MY DIRECTIONS MESSED UP HERE.
THAT WILL ALSO BE A 60 FOOT RIGHT AWAY AND IT'LL ACCESS FIFTH WEST, WHICH IS A MINOR ARTERIAL.
UM, AND THEN IT'LL TIE INTO, UH, FUTURE EXPANSION OF MK SIMPSON BOULEVARD.
UH, THE PROPOSED INTERNAL STREETS WILL BE LOCAL STREETS, ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAYS WILL BE DEDICATED TO 33RD NORTH AND FIFTH WEST.
WITH THIS PLAT, UM, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO CONSTRUCT THE INTERNAL STREETS AND IMPROVE 33RD NORTH.
AND THE CITY WILL COLLECT IMPACT FEES TO IMPROVE NORTH FIFTH WEST AS IT'S IN ARTERIAL, UH, BLOCK LENGTHS ARE FINE.
THEY MEET THE STANDARDS IN THE, UH, SECTION 10 DASH ONE DASH FIVE OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
LOT SIZES MEET THE MINIMUM LOT AREA REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE R THREE ZONE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.
UM, THE R THREE ZONE DOES PROVIDE, UH, CHARACT, OR EXCUSE ME, CHARACTERIZES OF A VARIETY OF DWELLING TYPES WITH A DENSER RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT.
UM, THE ZONE ALSO IS SITUATED ALONG NEAR MAJOR STREETS AND COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS, WHICH THIS DOES.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO LOCAL SERVICES, OR THERE ARE GENERAL LOCAL, GOODNESS GRACIOUS.
IT'S ALSO GENERALLY LOCATED NEAR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS AND COMMERCIAL SERVICES.
UM, AS NEIL MENTIONED, THIS IS UNDER REVIEW FOR TECHNICAL, UH, TECHNICAL REVIEW BY CITY STAFF AND STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE FINAL PLAT AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE AS WELL AS THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
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DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT.AND THEN JUST TO KIND OF SHOW YOU, THESE ARE SOME STREET VIEWS.
UM, THIS IS CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN NORTH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
BOTH OF 'EM ARE OFF 33RD ACTUALLY.
UM, THE INTERSECTION IS ACTUALLY JUST CLOSER TO THE CORNER OF THIS PICTURE HERE.
AND THEN AGAIN, THIS IS OFF OF FIFTH.
UM, THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CORRALS.
AND THEN DOWN HERE IS ON THE, UH, SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS PLAT WAS PUT ON HOLD FOR A FEW MONTHS BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER WAS TRYING TO PURCHASE THAT LITTLE SQUARE PIECE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROPERTY AND THAT FELL THROUGH.
SO WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
AND WITH THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE CLAP.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? GO AHEAD.
UM, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE NORTHERN 33RD NORTH IS ONLY GONNA BE IMPROVED ON THEIR SIDE OF THE STREET? CORRECT.
AND THEN ON FIFTH WEST, THAT WILL JUST GET IMPROVED, UM, WHEN THE CITY IS READY TO DO THAT AFTER THEY'VE COLLECTED IMPACT FEES? CORRECT.
UM, SO SINCE THIS PLAT IS ONLY GIVING RIDE OF WAY FOR THE POTENTIAL WIDENING LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD ONLY FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR MR. HOLDOUT? YOU KNOW, DID, DID YOU GUYS JUST APPROACH HIM AND BE LIKE, HEY, WE'RE READY TO WIDEN THE ROAD.
UM, SO YOU HAVE TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY FROM HIM OKAY.
TO INCLUDE INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THOSE IMPACT FEES? UM, ACTUALLY NO, THOSE WOULDN'T COME INTO PLAY WHAT THEY CARRY TO PURCHASE RIGHT OF WAY? I THINK IT'S JUST TO IMPROVE THE ROAD.
THE OTHER CHALLENGE WITH THIS AND PLANTED PIECE IS THAT IT'S ALSO ON ANNEXED, RIGHT? SO THE CITY HAS NO JURISDICTION THERE.
UM, CERTAINLY THE CITY COULD APPROACH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND IF THEY WERE OPEN TO ALLOWING PURCHASE OR PROVIDING RIGHT OF WAY, WE COULD DO THAT.
BUT IF THEY WERE NOT OPEN TO THAT, THE CITY WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY TO OBTAIN RIGHT OF WAY.
UNTIL THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED.
GOOD TO KNOW WHICH THE CITY DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO BECAUSE IT'S CONTIGUOUS.
CORRECT? LIKE A, ISN'T THAT A CLASS B ANNEXATION OR, YES.
SO THE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCE LAST YEAR.
SO THERE ARE NO MORE CATEGORIES OF ANNEXATION.
THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A CITY INITIATED ANNEXATION IF THE CITY CHOSE TO DO THAT.
WHICH COULD BE A POSSIBILITY IF IT'S TIME TO WIDE, IT WON'T PLAY.
I JUST SAID TO NOTE OFF THE RECORD, IF THE DEVELOP OR THE DEVELOPER'S GONNA HAVE TO SELL ALL THAT A
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION? GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER SCOTT.
UH, I MIGHT HAVE MISSED THIS, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S NO WORK ON FIFTH THAT'S INCLUDED.
NOT INITIALLY JUST IMPACT FEES FOR FUTURE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE DOING SOME SORT OF UTILITY WORTH NOW, SO I DUNNO, I GUESS THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
SO, SO IF I GET THIS RIGHT, SO BECAUSE IT'S AN ARTERIAL, A MAJOR ARTERIAL OR MINOR OR ARTERIAL, NONETHELESS, UM, THE CITY LIKES TO JUST DO THE IMPACT FEE ROUTES BECAUSE THEN WHEN THEY'RE READY TO WIDEN IT, THEY CAN DO ONE KIND OF LIKE COHESIVE PROJECT VERSUS HERE, HERE, HERE, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECT.
IS THAT PROBABLY WHY THEY DO IT THAT WAY? I'M KIND OF, I'M TRYING TO MAKE LIGHT OF IT.
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DO IMPACT FEES HERE, BUT NOT ON THE NORTH PARK.
I MEAN, THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY PART OF IT, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING IN ARTERIAL ROAD, IT'S GOING TO CARRY TRAFFIC REGIONALLY.
AND SO THAT'S THE POINT OF THE IMPACT.
SEE AS WELL AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE IMPACT THE CITY.
UM, NOT JUST NECESSARILY, UM, SPECIFICALLY THERE, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF REASONS FOR THAT.
BUT THAT YES, THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I MOTION I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLA FOR CREEKSIDE VILLAGE
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COUNCIL.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND A THANKS COMMISSIONER.
[4.II. 7:00 PM PLT25-013: FINAL PLAT for Fin Fun Subdivision. Part of the NW ¼ of Section 8, Township 2 North, Range 38 East. Located north of Stanley Street, east of N Holmes Avenue, south of Iona Road, and west of Wright Road.]
NEXT UP, FINAL PLAN FOR FIFTH FUND SUBDIVISION.LOOKS LIKE WE'LL HEAR FROM STAFF.
YOU WANNA DO THAT? I DUNNO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? MAKE IT, MAKE IT FINE.
ALRIGHT, SO REQUESTED ACTION FOR THIS IS COMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLA FOR MARING CITY COUNCIL.
THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEX OF TWO SEPARATE TIMES, SO TWO SEPARATE PARCELS YOU SEE.
ONE WAS ANN IN 2010 AND THE OTHER IN 2013 WITH AN INITIAL ZONING OF I ONE.
UH, THERE WERE AM STATION AGREEMENTS AT THAT TIME THAT REQUIRES THE PROPERTY TO BE PLATTED.
PRIOR TO SELLING THE PROPERTY, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A SIGNED RECORDED AGREEMENT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, UM, THE PRO PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED IM WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING.
UH, AND THIS, AND IT'S THE SITE OF FIN FUND.
UM, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
WORLD FAMOUS SOUND MERMAID TILLS.
OLD WORLDWIDE ENGINEERED MERMAID TILL.
UM, SO NOT JUST COSTUMES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY INTRICATE.
UM, THE PROPERTY PLAN, THE AREA AS INDUSTRIAL AS WELL.
UH, THIS, IT IS A TWO OFF PLA IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
UH, IT MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE HIGH ZONE AS WELL AS THE COORDINATE.
UM, STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, HEARING NONE.
GO AHEAD TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLA MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL OF THE, UH, THANK YOU.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
[4.III. 7:00 PM PLT25-014: FINAL PLAT for Donner Townhomes. Lots 9-12, Block 1 of H-S Addition, Division No. 1. Located north of Easy Street, east of the Idaho Canal, south of Garfield Street, and west of N Woodruff Avenue. ]
CLAP FOR DONOR COUNTY HOMES.THANK YOU FOR NOT CALLING WHAT, THANKS FOR NOT CALLING IT DON PARTY.
GOOD EVENING WITH CONNECT ENGINEERING 2295 NORTH HILLSDALE HIGHWAY SUITE SIX.
UM, THIS IS A PLA THAT IS FOLLOWING UP WITH A PD THAT THIS COMMISSION APPROVED NOT TOO LONG AGO.
SO I THINK IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD WITH WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S JUST THE SECOND PORTION OF, OF THAT P TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE TOWN HOMES SET UP SO THAT THEY CAN BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.
AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ALMOS TO THE WEST.
IT'S THE SAME, UM, DEVELOPER DOING THE STUFF TO THE WEST.
SO, UM, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN OUT THAT DIRECTION, YOU KIND SEE WHAT THE, THE QUALITY WORK THAT THEY, THAT THEY DO.
BUT, UM, JUST TO GO OVER A COUPLE THINGS, IF I GO DIRECTION TO, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PLAT, UM, IT'S GOT ACCESS TO THE EXISTING PORTION OF THE SUBDIVISION AND THEN, UM, ACCESS DOWN TO EAST STREET ON THE SOUTH, UM, TO DELETE ALL THE NECESSARY ACCESS POINTS AND CONSIDERATIONS THAT DIRECTION FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, ET CETERA.
ALL THE INTERNAL STREETS WILL BE PRIVATE AS YOU APPROVED THROUGH THE BUD, UM, AND THEN BASICALLY DIDN'T DEVELOP VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN THE PAST.
SO DON'T WANT SPEND A TON OF TIME ORATING, UM, REVIEWED CALL THROUGH THE P BUT IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, I BE ABLE ANSWER MY COMMISSIONER SCOTT.
NOW YOU MOVED A LITTLE FAST THERE.
UM, YOU SAID FOUR LOTS SO THEY CAN BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.
SO IF WE GO TO THIS ONE, THERE'S, THERE'S 56 LOTS INSIDE.
SO AS, UM, AS PART OF THE P THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT THIS COMMISSION APPROVED AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVED, UM, THE FOURPLEXES WILL HAVE EACH DOOR, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT WAY, EACH DOOR WILL BE BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY.
SO THERE'S, INSIDE HERE THERE'S 56 LOTS.
SO CURRENTLY IT'S FOUR MONTHS.
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YEAH.UH, SO AS BLAKE MENTIONED THIS, UH, THE REQUESTED ACTION TONIGHT IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLA UH, TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THE LOT SIZE FOR THIS OVERALL, UM, IS 4.25 ACRES IS BLAKE MENTIONED.
IT WAS PLOTTED GOODNESS IN 1998.
UM, IT WAS PART OF AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT WITH, UH, WINCO AND THOSE LOTS TO THE FRONT, THAT FACE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, OH, EXCUSE ME.
I'M LIKE, THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? YEAH.
UM, ANYWAY, SO AS BLAKE MENTIONED, UH, THERE ARE FOUR ORIGINAL LOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PLATTED.
THERE WAS A PUD THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, BY THIS COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, UH, JUST IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
UM, THE PLA CONSISTS OF, LIKE I SAID, 4.25 ACRES WITH A TOTAL OF 56 BUILDABLE LOTS.
THE LOTS WILL ACCESS EASY STREET, UM, WHICH IS A PRIVATE STREET.
HOWEVER, THERE IS AN OUTLET OVER TO, UH, OH MY GOODNESS, WHAT IS GOING ON TO WOODRUFF.
UM, THERE'S A STOPLIGHT RIGHT THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN THERE WILL ALSO BE AN OUTLET FROM EASY STREET TO, UH, FIRST STREET.
UM, THE FINAL FLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WHEN ACCOMPANIED WITH A PUD PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED LC, UM, WHICH IS THE RED AND, UH, WITHIN THE LC ZONE, IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING RESIDENTIAL, YOU HAVE TO DEVELOP ACCORDING TO THE R THREE STANDARDS, WHICH THEY PLAN TO DO.
UM, ANYWAY, STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE FINAL PLAT AND FINDS THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING ORDINANCE AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLA.
UM, AND THEN JUST TO GIVE YOU KIND OF AN IDEA IN THIS PICTURE, UM, I'M TAKING PHOTOS FROM EASY STREET NORTH AND THIS IS ACTUALLY ALL DEVELOPED NOW, BUT THIS WAS THE FIRST DIVISION, UM, IT'S CALLED CARIBOU CROSSING, BUT IT, THIS PLA WOULD BE AN EXTENSION OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
AND WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
DISCUSSION ON YOUR COMMISSION.
UM, I, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS ONE MORE TIME.
SO THIS, THE ACCESS, THERE'S HOW MANY ACCESSES TO THIS THING? ARE THERE ANY FROM EASY STREET OR ARE THEY ALL THROUGH CARIBOU CROSSING? I, I TOTALLY, THERE'S NO, YOU'RE FINE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ACCESS TO CARIBOU CROSSING AND THEN THEY'RE ACCESSING UM, EASY STREET.
BECAUSE YEAH, THERE'S THESE OTHER TWO TWO IN THERE AS WELL, BUT I JUST COULDN'T TELL PEDESTRIAN ACCESSES FOR RP.
IF YOU REMEMBER PD DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER SCOTT? UM, REFRESH MY MEMORY, BUT I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ACROSS LIQUOR
UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE PUD RECOMMENDATION.
IT WAS A RECOMMENDATION WHEN THE PUD CAME FOR YOU AND THAT WENT ON TO CITY COUNCIL WITH, WITH YOUR YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
OUR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE THOSE PEDESTRIAN ACCESSES? CORRECT? ARE THEY GOING TO BE YES, THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PLAT.
THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT ACCESS.
ALRIGHT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR THE DOWNER, DONNER TOWN HOMES
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TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL NEXT HEAR FINAL
[4.IV. 7:00 PM PLT24-015: FINAL PLAT for R&V Addition Division No. 2, First Amended. 6.370 acres in the S ½ of Section 21, Township 2 North, Range 38 East, including Lots 1 and 2, Block 3 of R&V Park Addition Division No. 2. Located north of E 12th Street, east of Nixon Avenue, south of Gallup Street, and west of Hoopes Avenue.]
PLAT FOR R AND B.ADDITION DIVISION NUMBER TWO, FIRST AMENDMENT ENGINEERING 95 HIGHWAY SUITE DRIVE.
UM, THIS IS A, I GUESS MOVE FORWARD A LITTLE BIT.
SO ON 12TH STREET AND HOOPS ON THE CORNER OF THAT, WE'VE GOT THE, UM, CHURCH THAT SITS THERE ON THE CORNER.
THIS IS JUST A, A PLA AS IT MENTIONED, THE STAFF REPORT THAT FALLS UP WITH THE CONDITION APPROVED EARLIER.
UM, SO THEY CAN ADD ONTO THIS ADD, ADD ONTO TO THE CHURCH.
UM, SO IT'S JUST KIND OF CLEANING ALL OF THAT UP TO BE ABLE TO PUT THIS ON.
SO PRELIMINARY LAB WAS APPROVED EARLIER.
THIS IS THE, THE FIRST DIVISION OF IT TO PUT THAT EVERYTHING ON THE ONE LOT.
SO I BELIEVE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT CHANGE IN THERE, NO CHANGE ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EXTENDING GALLUP THROUGH, UH, THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DONE WITH JUST THIS PLAT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
WE HEARD FROM STAFF, I RECOMMENDED ACTION FOR THIS IS ALSO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR REQUESTED ACTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLOT TO THE MARION CITY COUNCIL FOR RV DIVISION.
FIRST AMENDED THE PROPERTY WAS ANN IN THE CITY OF TWO SEPARATE TIMES.
1958 WAS THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL PLOTTED PROPERTY AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS PART OF RV DIVISION NUMBER TWO.
UM, AND THEN 1979 AS PART OF A LARGER BUT NOW OUT OF DATE PRELIMINARY PLOT, UM, WHICH IS WHEN THE R TWO, UH, PROPERTY CAME IN.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, R TWO COMING ALONG HOOPS, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL C PS THE MOST RECENTLY.
ONE RECENT ONE WAS THIS YEAR TO ALLOW THE CHURCH TO EXPAND THEIR SCHOOL.
UM, PART OF THE, PART OF THE EXPANSION GOES INTO THESE UNPLED BLOCKS.
SO THE MAIN POINT OF THIS IS TO CONSOLIDATE THESE UNPLED PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY ALL INTO A SINGLE LOT.
THE, THE LOT IS JUST A LITTLE OVER SIX ACRES.
THE R ONE ZONE, UH, HAS A LIMIT OF 13,500 SQUARE FEET, BUT CORNER LOTS ARE EXEMPTED FROM THAT.
SO BECAUSE IT'S A CORNER LOT, UM, IT'S ALLOWED TO BE LARGER THAN THE MAXIMUM IN OUR ONE ZONE.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN APPLIES.
THE AREA IS GENERAL URBAN, WHICH NOTES RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH A MIX OF COMMERCIAL AND SERVICE USES, INCLUDING RELIGIOUS SERVICES, CONVENIENT TO RESIDENTS, STATUTE VIEW, THE FINAL PLOT, AND BANKS THAT IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL FILE.
I I JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
UM, I SEE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT ZONES PER PART OF THE PROPERTY.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AT ALL AS PART OF THE, SO THERE, THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS UH, UH, SEEING A LOT FROM HAVING MULTIPLE ZONES.
UM, IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT'S A SINGULAR USE, IT'S, IT SHOULDN'T CAUSE ANY CONFLICTS.
BUT IF THERE WAS WHATEVER'S BUILT IN THE R TWO WOULD NEED TO FOLLOW THE R TWO ZONE REQUIREMENTS AND WHATEVER'S BUILT IN THE R ONE WOULD NEED TO BE BUILT TO THE R ONE ZONE.
BUT YOU CAN BUILD R ONE IN AN R TWO ZONE EFFECTIVELY? YEAH.
YEAH, BECAUSE THERE, THE R ONE AND R TWO THERE, IT IS ONLY INDUSTRIAL AND CENTRAL COMMERCIAL REGULAR.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, 'CAUSE THE BULK OF IT'S THE R ONE, IF THEY DO CROSS OVER INTO THE R TWO, YOU'RE NOT RUNNING IT.
AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE USE, WE'VE ALREADY, UM, GONE THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH THE R TWO ZONE REQUIRES AS WELL.
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ALL IN THIS SCENARIO IS ALL CONSISTENT WITH THE USES OF THE PHONE.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? AND THIS IS A SITUATION JUST WHERE THE EXISTING OWNER AND USER IS INTENDING JUST TO EXTEND ONTO THE EXISTING FACILITY, CORRECT? YES.
THEIR, THEIR PLAN IS TO, UH, BUILD AN ADDITION FOR THEIR SCHOOL THAT JUST EXTEND OVER THE PROPERTY LINE INTO THE UNPLED PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY NEED TO PLOT THE UNPLED PORTIONS TO ABLE TO DEVELOP IT.
SO THEY'VE CHOSEN TO JUST CONSOLIDATE IT ALL INTO A SINGLE, BECAUSE BUILDINGS GOING OVER PROPERTY LINES.
I, THAT'S HELPFUL TOO TO REALIZE IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, I, UH, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REPRIMAND, UM, APPROVAL TO THE, UH, COMMANDER AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL PLAT FOR OUR NB UM, ADDITION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
[4.V. 7:00 PM PLT25-018: FINAL PLAT for Idaho Steel Products Division No. 1. Part of the SW ¼ of the SE ¼ of Section 7, Township 2 North, Range 38 East. Located north of E Anderson, east of N Boulevard, south of US Hwy 20, and west of N Holmes Avenue.]
FINAL ITEM NUMBER SIX.FINAL PLAT, UH, FOR ITEM DIVISION ONE.
NEIL HUMPHREYS WITH EAGLE ROCK ENGINEERING FOR 2 3, 1 MONT AVENUE HERE IN IDAHO FALLS.
AND UH, I'M GONNA HAVE TO APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME.
I DON'T KNOW A TON ABOUT THIS ONE, BUT, UM, FROM WHAT I DO UNDERSTAND, THIS WAS A, A PLAT AND PROJECT THAT GOT INITIATED, UH, FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO.
AND I'M NOT 100% SURE WHY, BUT IT KIND OF STALLED OUT AND UH, APPROVAL ON THE FINAL PLAT WAS NEVER REACHED.
AND SO WE'RE HERE AT THIS TIME TRYING TO GET THROUGH APPROVALS AND UM, AND GET THIS FINAL PLAT APPROVED.
IT IS, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE STARTED OUT WITH A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
STAFF, WE MIGHT HAVE TO HELP YOU OUT.
SO THIS IS JUST, UH, ROUGHLY, YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED METERS NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH BOULEVARD AND ANDERSON.
IT IS ONE OF THE LARGER BUILDINGS TO THE REAR OF THE TETON STEEL CAMPUS.
SO, UM, THE WORK THAT WAS INITIATED BACK AT THAT TIME WAS, I THINK TO ALLOW 'EM TO BUILD THAT BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, DO ALL THE THINGS THEY NEEDED TO WITH BUILDING PERMITS.
UM, I THINK AT THAT TIME THEY GOT CONDITIONAL APPROVALS FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND BUILDING OCCUPANCY AND THEN GOT THEIR BUILDING PUT UP.
THE CONTRACTOR JUST WENT THROUGH TO THEIR THING AND THE FINAL PLAN NEVER GOT FULLY APPROVED.
SO THEY'RE SEEKING, YOU KNOW, OUR ACTUAL COS AND SO WE NEED TO KIND OF CLEAN THIS UP ADMINISTRATIVELY TO, TO ALLOW 'EM TO DO THAT.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE AFTER.
SO COMMISSION AS WAS INDICATED, THIS IS A SOMEWHAT OF A CLEANUP.
UM, JUST BY WAY OF HISTORY, THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED IN 2019 THROUGH A CITY INITIATED ANNEXATION.
PRIOR TO THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL, UM, PARCELS OF LOTS CREATED IN BONNEVILLE COUNTY WHEN IT WAS UNDER THEIR JURISDICTION, BUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF AS A WHOLE HAS NEVER BEEN PLATTED.
SO AT THE TIME THAT THEY WANTED TO DO THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS REALLY, UM, JUST THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING HERE WAS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS EXISTING THEN THEY NEEDED TO, TO SUBDIVIDE AND PLOT THE PROPERTY.
WE DID START THAT PROCESS FIVE YEARS AGO.
UM, THERE WAS A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL TO ALLOW THEM A FOUNDATION PERMIT, UM, PRIOR TO THE PLATTING BEING COMPLETED.
'CAUSE THE PLAT WAS ALREADY STARTED, JUST, UM, NOT FINISHED.
AND THEN FOR WHATEVER REASONS, UM, THOSE FINAL, UH, APPROVALS FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT AND THE FINAL APPROVALS FOR THE PLAT WERE NEVER COMPLETED.
SO NOW WE'RE, WE'RE BACK AT THAT POINT.
UM, THE BOUNDARY'S MUCH THE SAME.
IT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE, FROM FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT THE BOUNDARY, AS YOU SEE IT HERE, WILL MEET ALL OF THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
IT IS AN INTERNAL LOT, BUT THEY
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ARE PROVIDING ACCESS EASEMENTS THAT WOULD PROVIDE, UM, ACCESS, UH, TO NORTH BOULEVARD.AND THE, THE PROPERTY, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SEPARATE OWNERSHIPS, IT IS USED, UM, SORT OF AS A COMPOUND OR A WHOLE COMPLEX.
AND THEY DO HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE TO MAKE THE, THAT ACCESS FUNCTION AND WORK.
UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO REVIEWED IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ADEQUATE FIRE ACCESS, ET CETERA.
UM, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE IN PLACE.
AND SO, UH, THE FINAL PLAT HERE, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH TECHNICAL REVIEWS, BUT IN LARGE MEASURE IT MEETS ALL THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF BOTH THE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
SO STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PLAT.
UM, HERE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF THE EXISTING SITE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S SORT OF OPERATED AS A WHOLE, BUT THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS.
THAT NEW BUILDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS HERE ON THAT SOUTH END.
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THEY NEED TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.
UH, HOW MUCH HARD FOR HERE? ANY QUESTIONS FOR STEPH? COMMISSIONER SCOTT, CLARIFICATION, WHERE IS THIS PICTURE? IS THIS FROM NORTH BOULEVARD? YES, CORRECT.
THIS PICTURE IS FROM NORTH BOULEVARD LOOKING EAST.
SECOND DATE, SORRY, IF I MAY, THAT THE ACCESS IS ARRANGED.
UM, THE, THE SECONDARY ACCESS OR WHATEVER IS FROM NORTH BOULEVARD.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT ACCESS.
WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING NORTH OF THAT ACCESS.
SO THIS IS A, A FENCED, THERE IS A GATE THERE, BUT THE ACCESS, WHERE THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS, IS RIGHT HERE WHERE YOU SEE THE PAGE SURFACE.
UM, IF I CAN GO BACK HERE TO THE AERIAL, SO WE'RE SORT OF LOOKING UP HERE.
WE'RE UP HERE KIND OF LOOKING DOWN AT THE PROPERTY JUST SO WE COULD GET ALL OF THIS, THE STRUCTURES INTO THE, THE FRAME.
BUT THE ACTUAL COMMERCIAL APPROACH AND MAIN ACCESS FOR THE PROPERTY EXISTS RIGHT HERE JUST PRIOR TO GOING OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
THANKS COMMISSIONER SCOTT, MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR THE IDAHO STEEL PRODUCT EXHIBITION NUMBER ONE.
ANY OPPOSED? UH, THE MOTION PASSES.
ALRIGHT, WE MOVE TO THE FUN ONE.
[4.VI. 7:00 PM IFRA: Resolution validating conformity of the Urban Renewal Plan for the Proposed First Amendment to the River Commons Urban Renewal Plan with the City of Idaho Falls’ Comprehensive Plan.]
UH, THIS IS STAFF I ASSUME.AND I HAVE TO SAY, I WAS REALLY UNDERSTANDING THIS UNTIL THE ADDITIONAL EMAIL CAME OUT WITH MORE THINGS THAT MADE MY HEAD SPIN.
SO I'M ANXIOUS TO HEAR ALL ABOUT THIS.
SURE, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN THIS.
EVERYBODY GOT THE ADDITIONAL EMAIL FOR SOMEONE VERIFY AND THEN I STARTED READING IT.
I WAS LIKE, OH YEAH, I READ IT ALL, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THAT'S OKAY.
IT WAS IN REGARDS TO THE D YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A, WELL I'M WADE SAYING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, BUT I'M HERE IN MY CAPACITY AS THE IR ADMINISTRATOR.
SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IS I TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN IN MAPS SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO I'M AP YOU SHOULD NEVER START A SPEECH WITH AN APOLOGY, BUT I'M STARTING WITH ONE UPFRONT.
SO, UM, THIS IS THE EXISTING RIVER COMMONS URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
SO I WANT TO GO OVER THAT VERY BRIEFLY.
SO THE RIVER COMMONS URBAN RENEWAL PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY THE IDAHO FALLS CITY COUNCIL, UM, ON OCTOBER 14TH, 2004.
AT THE TIME OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS DISTRICT.
UM, THERE WAS NOT A YEAR CAP ON IT.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME HAD REQUESTED THAT THIS BE IMPLEMENTED FOR 24 YEARS, UM, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AT THE TIME.
SO THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT WAS STOOD UP IN OCTOBER OF 2004.
AND THEN THE AREA, IT INCLUDED 211 ACRES.
AND THE PROJECT AREA, UM, WILL EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2028.
UM, RECOGNIZING THAT RELU, UH, LET'S SEE, YEAH, IT'S ONE OF E URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICTS.
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THE DEVELOPER OF THE RIVER COMMONS PROJECT AREA.AND I SHOULD NOTE THAT THIS IS PRIMARILY OWNED BY PAUL VENTURES.
SO JUST IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
UH, AND THEY OWN THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING.
SO JUST REALIZE IT'S REALLY ONE PROPERTY OWNER.
IN ESSENCE, UH, THAT'S NOT QUITE ACCURATE, BUT THEY APPROACHED THE AGENCY SO THEY APPROACHED DIFFERENT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF USING A PORTION OF THE AREAS REMAINING FUND BALANCE TO REMEDIATE APPROXIMATELY 25 ACRES ON THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THE PROJECT AREA.
GEOTECHNICAL WORK ON THE 25 ACRES REVEALED SIGNIFICANT LAYERS OF GARBAGE AND DEBRIS FROM PREVIOUS LAND USES IN SOME PLACES EXTENDING 18 FEET BELOW THE SURFACE.
UH, THESE, UH, CONVERSATION EVENTUALLY EVOLVED TO THE PROPOSAL OF DE ANNEXING A PORTION OF THE RIVER COMMONS URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT AND INCORPORATE IT INTO A NEW URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
SO I'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH THIS.
SO WHAT HAPPENED WAS, WHEN FALL VENTURES WAS LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, WHAT THEY FOUND WAS THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, UM, AND SOME AREA, UH, THIS IS WHERE THE FIREWORKS ARE DISPLAYED, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY UP IN HERE.
THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DEBRIS IN THAT PROPERTY.
AND WHAT HAD HAPPENED IS ACTUALLY WHEN THEY PULLED OUT THE OLD, UM, RUNWAY FOR THE AIRPORT, THEY DUMPED ALL THE ROCK HERE.
AND SO, UM, THEY COULD NOT DEVELOP IT AND IT CAUSED SUBSTANTIAL PROBLEMS FOR THE EXTENSION OF THIS ROAD AND OTHER SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S WHERE THEY STARTED TALKING WITH IR AND SAID, HEY, WE NEED TO STILL MITIGATE THIS, BUT WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
'CAUSE REMEMBER, THE IRA DISTRICT IS GOING TO END IN 2028.
SO IN TALKING WITH FRA, THE PROPOSAL WAS THAT WE DE ANNEX A PORTION OF THIS, AND I WILL SHOW ALL THIS.
THEY'LL DE ANNEX A PORTION ON THE EAST SIDE OF RIVER COMMONS, AND THEN THEY'LL INCORPORATE THAT INTO A NEW URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICTS.
LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING, BUT I, AND THERE'S THESE NOTCHES IN HERE.
THERE'S A COUPLE PROPERTIES IN HERE THAT ARE, UM, ACTUALLY UNDER COUNTY JURISDICTION.
SO WE HAVE TO GET AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND US TO ACTUALLY PUT SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE.
IT'S REALLY THIS PROPERTY, THIS PROPERTY AND THIS PROPERTY INTO A NEW URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON THAT.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S THE 1ST OF AUGUST IS WHEN WE'LL BE TAKING THAT TO FORM THAT AGREEMENT.
UM, SO THIS IS THE CURRENT RIVER COMMONS.
THE CURRENT RIVER COMMONS DISTRICT WITH WHAT I HAVE HERE IS AN OVERLAY OF THE EXISTING IMAGINE IF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TRANSECTS.
YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE TWO TRANSECTS.
THE FIRST IS THE OPEN SPACE, AND THE SECOND IS A MIXED USE TRANSECT.
PARKS AND OPEN SPACE ONE, UM, IS REALLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.
IT PRIMARILY DEALS WITH THE TRAIL.
UM, IT'S UNDEVELOPED, UH, AREAS OF THE CITY.
BUT THE MIXED USE ONE IS THE ONE I I WANT TO READ, UH, OUT OF IMAGINE IF, AND IT GIVES A SNAPSHOT OF THAT TRANSECT.
IT SAYS THE MIXED USE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS, TRANSECT DENOTES AREAS WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO SHOP, EAT AND GATHER.
THESE AREAS INCLUDE ALL OF THE HOUSING TYPES, BUT GENERALLY A MORE INTENSE SCALE THAN OTHER AREAS.
THESE AREAS ALSO INCLUDE MIXED USE BUILDINGS, RECREATION CENTERS, AND COMMERCIAL USES.
MIXED USE CENTERS AND CORRIDORS MAY VARY IN SCALE FROM LARGE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL CENTERS WITH SUPPORTIVE HOUSING TO SMALLER COMMERCIAL POCKETS CALLED WALKABLE CENTERS THAT SUPPORT A WELL CONNECTED WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AT THE TIME THAT THIS URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT WAS CREATED, IT WAS FOUND THAT IT DID COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THE TIME.
SO THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE FUN.
SO WHAT'S PROPOSED? OH, THAT'S THE TRANSECT.
SO THIS IS THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY.
THE ZONING INCLUDES LC DOWN HERE, THIS DARK RED HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.
UH, THIS IS MIXED USE RESIDENTIAL.
AND THE PURPLE IS, UM, COMMERCIAL.
SO THERE IS, ON THE ZONING STANDPOINT, THERE IS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ZONES WITH HOUSING INCLUDED.
SO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS THE FUTURE DE ANNEXATION OF THIS RED AREA.
YOU'LL SEE IT'S VERY ODDLY SHAPED.
THESE ARE ALL OWNED BY BALL VENTURES, ALL THESE PROPERTIES.
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UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT DE ANNEXATION IS SO THAT WE CAN ONE, GET THIS AREA UP HERE THAT WILL, UM, THAT'S THE DIFFICULT AREA TO DEVELOP, BUT IT HAS TO BE A CONTIGUOUS, UM, CONTIGUOUS, UH, LINE OR DISTRICT.AND REMEMBER THAT THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE IS UNDER COUNTY JURISDICTION, HENCE THIS LITTLE NARROW LINE THAT KIND OF COMES DOWN.
SO THE, UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING OVER HERE.
THIS WHOLE AREA IS THE EXISTING RIVER COMMONS.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE IS TO DE ANNEX THIS.
ONCE WE TRIGGER THE DE ANNEX, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE SURE WHAT BECOMES CREATED IN THE NEW DISTRICT IS STILL COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS.
SO THIS IS THE D ANNEXATION AREA THAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS THE NEW WHAT WILL THE NEW RIVER COMMONS DISTRICT.
SO NOTICE THE, THE DISTRICT LINE HAS CHANGED OVER HERE.
IT'S NOW INCORPORATING THIS EASTERN PORTION.
IT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO THE RIVER ON THAT SOUTHEAST SIDE.
SO THEN I OVERLAID RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS THE NEW RIVER COMMONS DISTRICT, AND THIS IS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OVERLAID ON TOP OF IT.
I'LL SHOW YOU THE, THE ZONING COMING BACK HERE.
THE ZONING HAS A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UNDERNEATH REALLY DOES NOT CHANGE.
IT'S REALLY JUST THE BOUNDARY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT THAT IS CHANGING.
SO THE QUESTION THEN IS, DOES THE NEW BOUNDARY, DOES THAT CONFORM TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? YES.
COMMISSIONER, SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF WHEN YOU WERE SAYING NO, THAT'S OKAY.
WHEN YOU SAY NEW RIVER COMMONS, YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY, IT IS NEW BECAUSE THE BOUNDARIES CHANGED BECAUSE YOU DE ANNEX, UH, PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE RIVER CONES.
BUT WHEN YOU SAY NEW IS ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE SAYING LEFTOVER.
THE LEFTOVER AFTER YOU DE ANNEX.
AND THIS THE BLUE AREA, THIS, UH, THIS ALLOCATION TIMELINE WILL END IN 2028.
AND THEN THAT'S MY QUESTION TOO, IF NEW, DOES IT CREATE A NEW YEAH.
SO REALLY IT IS LEFTOVER WHAT'S LEFTOVER.
AND I'M SURE YOU'LL GET INTO IT, BUT THEN THIS STUFF WE DE ANNEX WILL THEN BECOME A NEW THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
THAT'S EXACTLY WILL ACTUALLY BE, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO YOU'LL SEE THIS, I'M GIVING YOU THE SPOILER ALERT ON THIS ONE BECAUSE UM, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT THE NEW DISTRICT IS.
THE NEW DISTRICT IS NOT BEING PROPOSED TO YOU TONIGHT, RIGHT? IT'S REALLY THIS RIGHT HERE.
DOES THIS MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THE TIME IT WAS CREATED, YES.
BUT THEN IMAGINE IF WAS ADOPTED IN 2026, UH, 22, 20 22.
SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
'CAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGED.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED NEW DISTRICT.
SO WE TAKE IN THE DE ANNEXED AREA, WE'RE ALSO INCORPORATING THESE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WERE UNDER COUNTY JURISDICTION.
SO THIS WILL COME BEFORE YOU IN THE FUTURE AFTER WE RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY.
SO THE NEW URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT WILL ACTUALLY BE CALLED RIVERSIDE
WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF RIVER AND ALL THESE NAMES, BUT THIS ONE THEY PROPOSE RIVERSIDE.
SO IT GOES FROM RIVER COMMONS TO RIVERSIDE.
THIS ONE AT LEAST TOUCHES THE RIVER.
THIS ONE AT LEAST STILL TOUCHES THE RIVER.
THE RIVER NAME CONSTANTLY IS CONFUSING US.
BUT, UM, WHAT WILL WIND UP HAPPENING, AND I'M JUST, I'M REALIZING I'M GETTING KIND OF IN THE WEEDS, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS DE ANNEXATION A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT WILL EVENTUALLY HAPPEN IS THAT THIS WILL CREATE THE NEW URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
THERE ARE, I I CAN TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
THERE'S A NUMBER OF REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTERS THAT WILL BE PROPOSED FOR THIS AREA AS WELL AS MIXED USE, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE UP ALONG THE PAN CARRY AND SNAKE RIVER RIGHT THERE.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT, I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE YOU TOO MUCH, BUT REALLY IS THIS NEW AREA, THE AREA IN BLUE, IS IT, UM, DOES IT MEET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING EXISTING IN THE DISTRICT? CURRENTLY THERE ARE SOME VACANT PROPERTIES.
SO THE NEW DISTRICT WOULD COME DOWN AROUND SNAKE RIVER.
THEY'VE COME TO, UH, I THINK THIS IS EVENT CENTER DRIVE AND, UM, SNAKE RIVER PARKWAY AND THESE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.
THEN IT COMES BACK UP ALONG THE PROPERTY ALONG TO THE PORT CANAL, FOLLOWS THAT BACK TO
BUT WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING IN THAT DISTRICT ARE MIXED.
THERE IS RESIDENTIAL IN THERE.
UH, THERE ALSO ARE SMALL SHOP, UH, COMMERCIALS.
UM, THERE'S SOME HOTELS IN THERE
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AND SOME SHOPPING THAT'S ALONG THE EASTERN NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE DISTRICT.SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.
THE CITY COUNCIL DOES INEVITABLY HAVE DECISION MAKING ON THIS IF IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT IT'S UP TO YOU TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT DOES OR IT DOES NOT AND EX AND THE NEW OR, UH, LEFTOVER CONFIGURATION.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
HOPEFULLY I TRIED TO BOIL IT DOWN AND ESPECIALLY I'M A VISUAL PERSON, SO I REALLY WANT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
YES, THAT MADE A LOT MORE SENSE.
I GAVE YOU THE DE ANNEXATION BECAUSE THE DE ANNEXATION REPORT, BECAUSE IN THAT THE FEASIBILITY, THE, THE MAIN IMPETUS OF THAT IS THAT NOTHING REALLY CHANGES FOR THIS DISTRICT.
EVEN FINANCIALLY IT DOESN'T CHANGE.
SO FORGIVE ME ON ALL THOSE GRAPHS.
THAT WAS HELPFUL TO MAKE THIS CLEAR TONIGHT.
FIRST OFF, COMMISSIONER LL COME TO YOU, COMMISSIONER SCOTT, YOU SAID AT THE BEGINNING THAT THE GOAL OF THIS IS THEY WANT TO TAKE LEFTOVER FUNDS FROM THE LEFTOVER, UM, I'M CALLING IT LEFTOVER.
THEY WANT TO TAKE THE FUNDS FROM THAT TO BE ABLE TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE STUFF OF THE NEW GUY.
BUT WHAT ABOUT ANY IMPROVEMENTS? THAT'S, I MEAN, WE STILL GOT FOUR YEARS LEFT OR THREE YEARS LEFT ON, YOU KNOW, THE LEFTOVERS, RIGHT.
SO YEAH, THEY TAKING THEIR MONEY.
SO THEY'RE DOING THE PRELIMINARY WORK WITH THE EXISTING FUNDS AND THEN THEY'LL ACTUALLY, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO DIG DOWN AND START HAULING OUT WITH TRUCKS.
AND THEY'VE TOLD US IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ABOUT 2.1 MILLION TO DO THAT.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO THAT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO RUN TRUCKS.
AND THEY GAVE ME SOME STAT OF LIKE HOW MANY MONTHS TO ACTUALLY PULL THE DEBRIS OUT.
SO THEY WANTED TO DRAW THAT OUT SO IT DOESN'T ALL HIT THEM ALL AT ONCE.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, I, SORRY, I'M CONTINUING MY QUESTION.
UH, THERE, YOU WERE POINTING TO THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU TAKE THAT ROAD GOING EAST, ESPECIALLY THAT NORTHEAST AREA, UM, JUST NORTH OF THAT BLUE LINE.
ISN'T THAT ALL PART OF THE SAME AREA? LIKE RIGHT.
THAT'S ALL KIND OF THE SAME WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE NORTH OR SOUTH SIDE OF THAT LINE.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHY DID THEY CHOOSE TO, I'M SURE THE DEBRIS IS THERE AS WELL.
SO WHY DID THEY KEEP IT? IT WAS FOR THAT REASON.
THE DEBRIS UP HERE IS LESS THAN THE DEBRIS DOWN HERE.
SO THEY CAN COVER WITH THE EXISTING PHONES OR WHATEVER.
IT'S JUST EASIER TO PULL OUT THAT ONE.
AND I KNOW THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN, BUT I'M, I'M TRYING TO LEARN HOW THESE THINGS WORK.
YEAH, I DOVE COME INTO MY OFFICE TO ASK ABOUT IT FOR YEAH, IT'S, IT IS COMPLICATED.
YEAH, PROBABLY NEED TO GO BACK TO FIRST THREE ON THIS, BUT WHERE THE, WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS THAT YOU DON'T NEED A GEOTECHNICAL STUDY IN THAT AREA TO KNOW THAT THERE'S A TON OF STUFF THAT'S GOTTA BE CLEANED OUT.
AND SO I, I WONDER WHY THAT WASN'T CONSIDERED IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN.
I MEAN, WITH THE, WITH THE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT, DON'T YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO SORT OF INCLUDE THAT WHOLE PROPERTY? SO IT'S, UH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WELL WE REALLY CAN'T DO THIS WITH THIS PROJECT.
I MEAN, IS THIS A, A NORMAL SORT OF THING TO DO? BECAUSE IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S, UH, AND AGAIN, MAYBE I NEED TO GO BACK TO FIRST GRADE, IT SEEMS LIKE, ARE WE STILL CHERRY PICKING AND THIS SORT, WELL, THIS PART DOESN'T WORK SO GOOD.
NO, THIS, THEY, THE OWNER WAS, BALL VENTURES WAS VERY TRANSPARENT AND THEY, THEY WERE AWARE OF THIS, BUT THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS WHEN THEY CREATED THIS DISTRICT WAS ACTUALLY UP MORE TO THE NORTH AND ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPLEMENT, UH, INSTALLATION OF LIKE SNAKE RIVER PARKWAY.
ALSO, DON'T FORGET THAT WE HIT 2008.
SO THE DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2004 AND WE HIT 2008.
IT TOOK THEM A WHILE TO REBOUND ON THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THEY LOST, IN ESSENCE SOME TIME BECAUSE OF THE RECESSION.
SO THEY WERE AWARE THAT THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO HIDE ANYTHING FROM THIS.
UM, IT WAS REALLY JUST ECONOMICS THAT UNFORTUNATELY WORKED AGAINST THEM THAT DRUG OUT SOME TIME WHERE THEY COULD HAVE MITIGATED THIS AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT'S WHY THEIR FOCUS WAS MORE TO THE NORTH.
UM, BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO GET ALL OF
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THAT PUT IN BEFORE THEY STARTED MITIGATING ALL OF THIS AND NOW THEY'RE RUNNING OUTTA TIME.UM, AND THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT, BUT IT DOES MENTION
I'M WONDERING IF, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY, HAVE THERE BEEN IMPROVEMENTS THERE AND IS THERE ANY PLAN TO LIKE PUT A WALKWAY ALONG THERE? YES, GREAT QUESTION.
UH, SO PART OF THE NEW RIVERSIDE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT, UH, THAT MILLIGAN WILL BE IMPROVED AND IT WILL ACTUALLY COME DOWN AND CONNECT.
SO I CAN TALK ABOUT ALL THIS NOW.
THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE CONNECTION ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
MILLIGAN WILL BE IN, UH, UM, UH, WILL BE BUILT ALSO.
THERE IS, UM, ALREADY THERE, BALL VENTURES IS DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
THE TRAIL SYSTEM WILL RUN, UH, CONCURRENTLY WITH IT, UH, HOW THAT PROFILE LOOKS.
WE DON'T QUITE KNOW YET, BUT THEY ALSO WILL INTEGRATE THAT TRAIL SYSTEM THROUGH THEIR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND CONNECT UP INTO THE PORTER CANAL TRAIL SYSTEM AS WELL.
THEY HAVE ACTUALLY INTEGRATED A LOT OF THE WALKABILITY IN THE FUTURE PROPOSAL OF THE RIVERSIDE URBAN RENEWAL DISTRICT.
SO IT'LL, IT'LL BE A COOL PROJECT.
IT'LL DRASTICALLY CHANGE THAT WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER.
YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE RESIDENTIAL, LIKE WHAT YOU SEE YOU'RE SEEING KIND OF NOW AND A LOT OF COMMERCIAL OVER THERE AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT FOR SURE.
HENCE WHY WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS ALL BUTTONED UP SO WE CAN GET OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
UM, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT TO YOU.
ONE, I I THINK IT'S GREAT TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND, AND HOWEVER WE CAN, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT JUST THINGS THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE CITY, WALKABILITY, TREELINE, STREETS, LIKE THAT, THIS DEVELOPER IS DOING ALL OF THAT RIGHT FOR US.
UM, AND BUILDING ONTO THE CITY'S TRAIL SYSTEM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GREAT.
SO I'M GLAD TO SEE IT KIND OF MOVING FORWARD.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ON ORDER OF OPERATIONS.
I, I KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE ACTION ON IS WHAT, SORRY, WHAT COMMISSIONER EITHER CALLED THE LEFTOVER PORTION.
UM, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT'S COMING NEXT.
I KNOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, AS A CITY, UM, INITIATE ANNEXATION WE TALKED ABOUT WITH ONE OF THE ITEMS EARLIER.
SO WHY IS THE MECHANISM TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON EXISTING COUNTY PROPERTIES RATHER THAN BRINGING THEM INTO THE CITY BEFORE WE DO THIS INSTEAD OF FOUR ANNEXING? YEAH.
UH, THAT ONE WE JUST, IT'S A BIT OF A HOT POTATO AND SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE FOUR SANEX IN THE PAST.
UM, IN THIS INSTANCE WE'RE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS AS, AND I'M SPEAKING FROM
UM, I DO KNOW BALL VENTURES OWNS, UH, IS IT THIS ONE? I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY OWN THIS ONE TO THE SOUTH, BUT THIS ONE TO THE NORTH.
AND WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO THEM ABOUT ANNEX INTO THE CITY AND THEY'RE PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT.
SO YEAH, JUST TO GET THE DISTRICT ESTABLISHED THOUGH, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE, WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE NEED, THAT'S WHY WE'RE FORMING THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
SO YEAH, IN GENERAL WE COOK, THEY'RE SURROUNDED.
UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
MR. CHAIR, COULD I ALSO ADD IF THAT'S, YEAH.
UH, WE WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ANNEXATION DOCK, THIS AREA, BUT INITIATED ANNEXATIONS TODAY.
SO WE WERE REVIEWING THE STATUTE AND THE STATE STATUTE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, CHANGED LAST YEAR WHEN THE STATUTE CHANGED LAST YEAR, IT ACTUALLY TOOK AWAY THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO INITIATE ANNEXATION ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
WE ONLY CAN INITIATE ANNEXATION ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE SMALLER THAN FIVE ACRES AND COMPLETELY SURROUNDED BY THE CITY.
SO IT, IT REALLY TOOK AWAY THAT A LARGE MEASURE, THAT ABILITY, ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA LIKE THIS IS, THAT IS LARGELY COMMERCIAL.
AT WHAT POINT DOES IT GET RE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AT THE END OF THE NEXT AGREEMENT OR, UH, SO OH YEAH.
AND I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED WHEN I TALKED, I THINK IT DEVELOPS, WE WANT THAT TAX REVENUE IN THE CITY.
UM, AND THAT'S, OH, AND, AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO THAT AGREEMENT WILL ACTUALLY, THEY GET TAXED ON THE CITY.
IT ACTUALLY COMES BACK TO FRA, SO YEAH.
SO THEY'RE PART OF THE DISTRICT.
'CAUSE IT'S PART OF THE DISTRICT.
SO YEAH, I SHOULD HAVE, SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THAT.
THERE'S A SIMILAR PROPERTY UP ALONG, UH, PIONEER ROAD RIGHT BY I 15.
I NEVER CAN SAY HER KITTY SIZE PROPERTY.
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STORAGE UNIT AND THE BRIGHTEN STEINS ARE DOING IT.IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO THE, UM, MOUNT AMERICA CENTER.
UM, THERE'S A PROPERTY IN THAT DISTRICT THAT'S ACTUALLY COUNTY JURISDICTION, BUT SHE, ALL THOSE TAXES GO BACK TO INFRA.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT AGREEMENT WORKS OUT.
AND MR. CHAIR, CAN I ASK THOUGH TOO, ARE YOU REFERRING, 'CAUSE WHEN WADE'S TALKING ABOUT DE ANNEXATION, HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT DE ANNEXATION FROM THE CITY, BUT JUST FROM ONE AFRA DISTRICT TO AN OUT OF THE DISTRICT THAT DE I DO ASSUME IT'S FROM, WE'RE USING THE, TO THE, IT'S NOT LEAVING THE CITY'S JURISDICTION.
SORRY IF WE USE SUCH ODD TERMS, IT'S NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL VERY, IT'S DE ANNEXATION FROM THE DISTRICT, BUT IT'S STILL UNDER CITY JURISDICTION.
HEY, IF I COULD CONFUSE YOU ANYMORE, I WILL.
SO HOW'S THAT
UM, ON A STANDPOINT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHY WE'RE HERE? I THINK IT, IT MATCHES PERFECTLY.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS EVOLVED AND CHANGED, BUT I THINK THE OVERALL VISION FOR THIS AREA, THE STATE, ABOUT THE SAME PAST 25 YEARS.
SO, I MEAN, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT AND IT'S GONNA EXPIRE IN 2028.
UM, ONE QUESTION I DO HAVE IS, AND THIS IS MORE OF JUST LOGISTICAL, WHAT HAPPENS TO ANY LEFTOVER MONEY ONCE THAT THING HAS ENDED? HOW DOES THAT WORK? 'CAUSE IT GOES, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT GOES BACK TO THE COUNTY IS WHERE IT GOES.
OH, JUST TO TO, SO IT'S IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO USE THAT MONEY.
AND A LOT 'EM BALANCE TO ZERO VERY QUICKLY.
THERE'S PROJECTS THEY CAN FIND.
AND YEAH, I, I HAVE NO ISSUES WITH US.
SO, UH, CARRIE, AS WE MAKE A MOTION HERE, WE'RE WE'RE MAKING THE MOTION TO, UH, AS A RESOLUTION TO VALIDATE OR DO WE READ OFF THE AGENDA OR DO WE READ OFF THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOCUMENT THAT THAT'LL BE SIGNED? YOU CAN, YOU CAN DO EITHER.
AND I DID WANT TO CLARIFY, THERE IS A CORRECTION TO THE AGENDA.
SO WE HAVE IT LISTED AS A SUB NUMBER ONE, WHICH INCLUDES RECOMMENDED A COUNSEL IN THIS CASE THAT'S INCORRECT.
YOU ARE THE DECISION MAKING BODY FOR THIS RESOLUTION.
SO ANY MOTION YOU MAKE TONIGHT SHOULD, YOU KNOW, EITHER BE TO APPROVE OR TO NOT APPROVE, TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.
AND YOU COULD JUST READ IT BY TITLE.
THERE AT THE TOP OF IT WOULD BE FINE, OR OFF THE AGENDA WOULD BE FINE.
SO AS, AS WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION HERE, UH, YOU MAKE A MOTION FOR FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE RIVER COMMONS URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
UM, OR OR JUST SAY RESOLUTION VALIDATED CONFORMITY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN.
WHAT'S CLEAN LIST FOR THE RECORD? YES.
READ OFF THIS SHEET RIVER WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
MR. STUTTER OVER HERE WILL DO IT.
SO, UM, I, UH, PROPOSE THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE RESOLUTION VALIDATING CONFORMITY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE RIVER COMMON'S URBAN RENEWAL PLAN WITH THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND JUST RECORD? WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, WE'RE APPROVING.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION VALIDATING CONFORMITY OF THE URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE RIVER COMMONS URBAN RENEWAL PLAN WITH THE CITY OF VITAL FALLS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION AS WELL.
JUST WITH THE BINDING BODY ON THIS COMMISSIONER.
JUST SO WE HAVE CLARITY OF THE RECORD.
WITH THAT WE WILL END OUR PLANNING MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR HELPING US UNDERSTAND THAT.
OH, THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR GREAT WORK ANNOUNCEMENTS OR ANYTHING.
WE KNOW WE HAVE A REALLY LIGHT AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH, SO WE'LL PROBABLY THROW IN, UM, SOME TRAINING ITEMS AS WELL.
UM, THE VILLE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION HAS JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED A NEW ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN.
UM, SO I'LL PROBABLY BE BRINGING PORTIONS OF THAT TO YOU JUST TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS AND HOW THAT DOVETAILS INTO OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING
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THAT WE DO AT THE CITY.SO, BUT IF THERE ARE OTHER TOPICS YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT, LET ME KNOW.
SEND ME AN EMAIL AND WE'LL TRY TO DO THAT.
I THINK WE ONLY HAVE THREE ITEMS, SO IT SHOULD BE PRETTY, PRETTY QUICK SO WE CAN THROW IN SOME TRAINING.
CAN I GO OFF PLEASE? CARRIE, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
COULD YOU MAYBE SHARE SOME OF YOUR TAKEAWAYS FROM THE STATE LAND USE MEETING
AND MAYBE MATT AND BILL, I KNOW YOU BOTH WATCHED IT AS WELL.
SO WE HAD THE STATE LEGISLATURE, THE, THE LAND USE AND HOUSING STUDY COMMITTEE THAT OCCURRED LAST FRIDAY.
SO I WENT AND ATTENDED THAT ALL DAY.
THEY HAD, UH, PRESENTATIONS FROM BOTH, UM, CONTRACTORS AND BUILDING INDUSTRY AS WELL AS THE MANUFACTURED HOME INDUSTRY.
UH, PRESENTATIONS FROM THE IDAHO ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, THE ASSOCIATION OF BUILDING OFFICIALS, UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, SOME IDAHO HOUSING, WHICH DOES SPECIALIZES IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALSO NEIGHBOR WORKS FROM POCATELLO, UH, WHICH REALLY IS KIND OF THE GOLD STAR WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT THEY DO IN THE STATE.
AND SO THERE WAS REALLY GOOD PRESENTATIONS.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO ONTO THE STATE LEGISLATURE'S COMMITTEE PAGE AND YOU CAN VIEW THOSE AT YOUR LEISURE.
UM, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS GOOD INFORMATION THERE.
EVERYONE'S TRYING TO TACKLE AFFORDABILITY AT OBTAINABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING.
IT'S A MULTIFACETED PROBLEM AND CHALLENGE FOR ALL OF US.
UM, SO THE POINT REALLY IS TO GET SOME INFORMATION AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN THE COMMITTEE'S GOING TO START HASHING OUT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE THE LEGISLATURE FOR NEXT SESSION.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE FOCUS REALLY IS ON, UM, REVIEW TIMES PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION REGARDING BOTH THE FIRE CODE, THE ENERGY CODE, SOME BUILDING CODES AS WELL, ZONING AND, AND LAND USE REGULATIONS.
WERE NOT EXEMPT FROM THAT CONVERSATION.
THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT THOSE AS WELL.
JUST, ARE THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS, MAKE IT GO FASTER, UM, ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, WAYS THAT WE CAN MANAGE THAT TOO.
UM, SO I MEAN, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION.
THERE WERE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS MADE.
I THINK THERE WERE, I HAD A FEW AHA MOMENTS THAT I'M KIND OF WORKING THROUGH IN MY HEAD AND FIGURING OUT HOW WE WE MIGHT APPROACH THOSE.
UM, AND I'M ALSO OUR, THE CITY OF IDAHO, IDAHO FALLS IN OUR PLANNING OFFICE IS HOPE.
WE'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH IDAHO, A PA WHO WILL BE PRESENTING NEXT IN, AT THEIR NEXT MEETING.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THE TIPS AND TRICKS, THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE LOCALLY TO KIND OF ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND, AND HOPEFULLY GET OUR VOICE IN THE CONVERSATION AS WELL.
SO WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED ON ALL OF THAT.
BUT, SO ALL THESE ASSOCIATIONS CAME AND PRESENTED TO THE NEW BOARD THAT THE LEGISLATURE MADE? CORRECT.
SO IT WAS ESSENTIALLY LIKE A REVERSE PRESENTATION.
ALL THESE, SO IT'S A SUBCOMMITTEE MADE UP OF STATE LEGISLATORS, BUT THEN THEY ALSO HAVE SOME AD HOC MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDE, UH, LAND USE PLANNERS, UH, THEIR BUILDING.
THERE'S A BUILDING OFFICIAL ON THAT COMMITTEE.
SOMEONE FROM IDAHO, A PA, UH, ARCHITECTS, OTHER PEOPLE IN THE FIELD.
UH, THERE'S TWO MAYORS ACTUALLY ON AS AD HOC MEMBERS TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.
UM, SO THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO GET THE EXPERTISE IN THE ROOM.
SO, SO THE COMMITTEE, THIS COMMITTEE WAS ESSENTIALLY JUST SITTING THERE LISTENING TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT YES.
THEY WERE ALSO ASKING QUESTIONS.
CLARIFYING SOME THINGS, BUT RIGHT, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE REALLY IN THE LISTENING MODE TRYING TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, TAKE IT ALL IN.
AND THEN THEY WERE VERY CLEAR AT THE END OF THE MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, HEY EVERYBODY, YOU, MINE NEEDS TO SHIFT HERE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA START DELVING INTO HOW TO REALLY SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AND WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS BASED OFF OF WHAT WE HEARD.
I WAS AT A FAIRBURY REUNION
UM, AT LEAST, YEAH, I, I JUST SAT IN THE AUDIENCE FOR THE FIRST HALF OF IT.
I, I BROKE AT LUNCH, BUT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO.
UM, I THINK FOR US, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A MOVEMENT FROM THE STATE LEVEL TO MAYBE, UH, STANDARDIZE THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE WORKING AROUND THE STATE AND MAYBE LESS CONTROL FOR INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES ON HOW ZONING AND LAND USE IS
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REGULATED.UM, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A NATIONWIDE TREND WE'RE SEEING THAT IN OTHER STATES DO.
MONTANA'S RECENTLY DONE SOME THINGS AS WELL AS, I MEAN, OREGON, UTAH, I MEAN, EVERYONE'S TRYING TO ADDRESS IT, RIGHT.
THESE MOUNTAIN WEST STATES WHERE
I'M HAPPY 4TH OF JULY, I GUESS.