BUTTON AND HEAR THE CLICK THAT THE MICROPHONES ARE ALIVE. BUT OH, WONDERFUL. I'M GOING TO HAVE 
          [1. Call to Order]
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TO MAKE MY NOTES. NOW. OKAY, SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL PRESIDENT BURTONSHAW HERE. COUNCILOR RADFORD, PRESENT COUNCILOR. 
          DINGMAN HERE. COUNCILOR. FREEMAN HERE. COUNCILOR FRANCIS HERE. COUNCILOR LARSON HERE. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. OUR FIRST THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE AGENDA, AND WE USUALLY HAVE A FEW EXTRA PAPER COPIES OF THE AGENDA AVAILABLE OUT IN THE BASKET BY THE DOOR. BUT IF NOT, THE QR CODE, RIGHT OVER HERE BY OUR CLERK IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CLICK YOUR PHONE TO, AND YOU'LL GET THE LONG VERSION OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS GOOD. HUNDRED OR SO PAGES, BUT YOU'LL HAVE THAT TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH IF YOU'D LIKE. ALL RIGHT, SO BEFORE I TURN THE MIC ON, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU CAN USE THE QR CODE TO CLICK INTO THE AGENDA. FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T HEAR THAT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE MIC ON, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT HERE IN THE ROOM. AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THE WEBSITE TO FIND THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. BUT THE FIRST OR THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. AND I HAVE INVITED OUR CITY ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TO QUEBEC TO LEAD US IN THAT. 
          AND SO IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO JOIN, PLEASE STAND. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. THE NEXT ITEM ON 
          [3. Public Comment]
THE AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER THREE, IS PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE SET ASIDE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL WITH ANY MATTER THAT MAY BE OF CONCERN TO YOU, BUT WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU ARE CURRENTLY INVOLVED IN A LEGAL PROCEEDING WITH THE CITY, THAT YOU NOT BRING THAT UP IN PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE THERE'S A TIME AND A PLACE FOR THOSE FOR THAT. BUT IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO SO. WE HAVE GUIDELINES ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE AGENDA. WE ASK YOU TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ THEM AND YOU GO OUTSIDE, I WILL BRING YOU BACK IN. BUT WITH THAT, PLEASE SHARE YOUR NAME AND LET US KNOW IF YOU'RE CITY RESIDENT. HEY FOLKS, MY NAME IS JOHN PATRICK. PUSH THE BUTTON. THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE LIVE NOW. IT WORKS NOW. OKAY, WONDERFUL. 
          MY NAME IS JOHN PATRICK RIVERA AND I LIVE IN IDAHO FALLS, SPECIFICALLY IN HIGHLAND PARK, RIGHT OVER HERE. I ACTUALLY WALKED HERE TODAY, AND I MET EARLIER WITH COUNCILMAN FRANCIS WITH REGARD TO LET ME BACK UP. I HAVE A BUSINESS, I HAVE A HOME BASED BUSINESS. AND IDAHO FALLS, I MAKE CUSTOM FLY RODS. I TEACH PEOPLE TO FLY FISH, I DO REPAIRS, I BUY AND SELL VINTAGE TACKLE. I'VE BEEN LIVING IN IDAHO FALLS FOR TEN YEARS AS OF MAY 1ST. WE MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO. I'M ALSO A GRADUATE OF UC BERKELEY. TEN YEARS AGO IT WAS PRETTY COOL WALKING THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I WALKED QUITE A BIT BECAUSE I'M A DIABETIC AND THIS IS HOW I CONTROL MY AGENCY. 
          SO BETWEEN DIET AND WALKING, YOU KNOW I'M IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE. BUT WHAT I NOTICED IS TREMENDOUS UPTICK IN GRAFFITI. AND THIS GRAFFITI IS AN ART FORM. IF IT WAS ARTFUL, I WOULDN'T BE HERE. 
          AND WHERE I LIVE, I LIVE ON 1406 WILLOW AVENUE, HALF A BLOCK FROM THE BASEBALL PARK. I'M A BASEBALL FAN, PLAYED BASEBALL AS A YOUNGER MAN. EVEN AS A 30 YEAR OLD MAN, I PLAYED BASEBALL AND I DO GO TO THE GAMES NOW. THERE IS ALSO A LITTLE STORE THERE CALLED SHORTSTOP NEIGHBORHOOD STORE. I KNOW CASEY OWNER. I KNOW MARTHA, THE OWNER. WHEN THEY WERE GETTING THINGS UP AND GOING, I DONATED A FLY ROD SO THAT I COULD HELP THEM WITH THEIR SEED MONEY. THEY RAN A RAFFLE. SO WONDERFUL COMMUNITY EFFORT. I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE IN THE BACK OF THE SHORTSTOP, AS WELL AS ALL THE WAY UP THE CORRIDOR. ELBA. THERE'S A LOT OF GRAFFITI AND I AM NOT A GANG EXPERT, BUT IT SURE FEELS LIKE IT'S GANG RELATED. MAYBE THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WOULD KNOW MORE THAN I DO, BUT I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I CONCERNED I HAVE A ROCK IN MY SHOE OVER THE UPTICK IN 
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GRAFFITI. NOT ONLY WHERE I LIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THREE BLOCKS AWAY, TWO BLOCKS AWAY AT THE MARKET. I'VE SEEN THEM TAKE STEPS TO, TO COVER IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I WALK ALL THE TIME, FIVE, SIX DAYS A WEEK, THEN WENT AHEAD AND DID IT AGAIN. AND TO THE MIDGET'S CREDIT, THEY WENT BACK AND THEY COVERED IT UP. AS I WAS WALKING HERE, I STOP AND TALK TO THE VEGAS BOXING PEOPLE AND THE OWNERS OF THAT LITTLE BOXING GYM. IT'S REYES AND MELISSA DIAZ. THEY PUT SIGNS UP, YOU KNOW, DISCOURAGING THE GRAFFITI, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING. BUT THEY ARE ALSO CONCERNED. AND THEY'VE BEEN HERE, I DON'T KNOW, 2 OR 3 YEARS AFTER DENVER, WHAT THEY TOLD ME, THEY BENT, BENT, THEY'RE BENT MY EAR OVER AND SAID THEY CAME FROM DENVER. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY PROGRAMS IN DENVER WHERE THEY ENCOURAGE ARTISANSHIP AND ARTISTS TO PAINT TASTEFUL MURALS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HERE ASKING FOR MONEY, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF DENVER PUTS ASIDE MONEY TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, INITIATE AN ACTION PLAN AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. I HAPPEN TO KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT DID THE MURAL NEAR THE UNDERPASS. HE USED TO OWN BARBOZA'S RIGHT ON PARK. JESSE MENDOZA DID A GREAT JOB. I TALKED TO HIM A FEW DAYS AGO. I SAID, HEY, MAN, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO PROTECT ONCE YOU PAINT A WALL? IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO PROTECT? YOU KNOW, THAT PAINTING? AND HE SAYS, OH YEAH, THERE'S PLENTY OF PRODUCTS. I ALSO HAVE AN ACCOUNT AT STAN'S PAINT CLINIC. I ASKED THEM ABOUT THIS SITUATION, AND THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED CLEAR COAT, WHICH PROBABLY THE PAINTER GUYS AND OR PAINTER FOLKS IN THE CITY SERVICES KNOW ABOUT THIS. I DON'T I MAKE FLY RODS, BUT APPARENTLY IT HELPS TO, YOU KNOW, THE PAINT DOESN'T STICK, APPARENTLY, AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. NOW, WALKING UP, ALVA, YOU GOT THE SHORTSTOP, YOU GOT A GRAFFITI ON THE LEFT, GRAFFITI ON THE RIGHT THAT WAS ACTUALLY COVERED UP. YOU KEEP GOING. THERE'S A HOUSE LIKE A RENTAL HOUSE RIGHT NEAR WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU FOLKS MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH AS FRUIT OASIS. SHE STARTED OVER THERE ON ALVA. 
          IT'S AN APARTMENT BUILDING NOW, BUT TEN YEARS AGO, SHE WAS UP THERE MAKING TACOS, GRAFFITI ON HER SIDE OF THE BUILDING. AND AS YOU GET UP TO THE TOP OF THE HILL ON ALVA, THERE'S A HOUSE THAT SOMEONE GUTTED AND THEY'RE REBUILDING IT. NEW FENCE, MORE GRAFFITI ON THE FENCE. SO ALL ALONG THAT CORRIDOR LEADS TO THE STEWARDS OF RECOVERY. NOW I'M NOT SINGLING THEM OUT, BUT I AM MAKING MENTION BECAUSE. GUYS IN JAIL, THEY END UP OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, AS A WAY TO REINTEGRATE INTO THE, YOU KNOW, NORMAL DAILY LIFE, I GUESS. BUT. THERE AGAIN, LAST SATURDAY, POLICEMEN SHOWED UP TO THE BACK OF SHORTSTOP. I ASKED HIM, HEY, ARE YOU LOOKING INTO THE GRAFFITI? HE SAID, YES, OFFICER RUCKER, HE'S LIKE SIX, SIX MAN. DUDE, SUPER NICE GUY. I SAID, YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO MEET WITH JIM. I'M COMING HERE ON ON THURSDAY TO SAY MY PIECE. 
          SO AFTER TALKING TO THE OFFICER, YOU MAY KNOW THERE WAS A CRIME STOPPER ARTICLE ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T MENTIONED. I HAVE CONNECTIONS THAT POST. MR. RIVERA. WE NORMALLY ASK FOR THREE MINUTES AND YOU'VE BEEN ABOUT SIX, SO WRAP UP. I MEAN, I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO WRAP UP, BUT I JUST WANTED TO. I AM ASKING FOR YOUR HELP AND I APPRECIATE THE SIX MINUTES. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE. AND I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU BRING TO THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE MADE. WE DO WE HAVE HAD PROGRAMS IN THE PAST, AND YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THERE IS AN ASSOCIATION BETWEEN GRAFFITI AND GANG ACTIVITY, AND THE BEST RESPONSE IS USUALLY TO COVER IT UP. BUT I WAS UNAWARE OF THESE PRODUCTS. I DON'T KNOW IF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS OR IS NOT, SO IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO LEAVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION WITH OUR CITY CLERK BEFORE YOU LEAVE. WE MAY BE REACHING OUT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? THANK YOU. OUR CITY CLERK IS RIGHT HERE. EMILY. HI. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME, MY NAME IS REBECCA LONG PIPER. I LIVE ON SOUTH BOULEVARD IN IDAHO FALLS. AT CHRISTMAS TIME, I HOST A HISTORIC HOMES 
          [00:10:02]
FOR THE HOLIDAYS TOUR, AND I DONATE ALL OF THE PROCEEDS TO A DIFFERENT LOCAL CAUSE. THIS YEAR, WHAT I WAS HOPING TO DO WAS TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO INSTALL SOME HISTORIC MARKERS TO SIGNIFY THE TWO DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. THAT PROJECT DOVETAILS REALLY NICELY WITH WHAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ALREADY HAS IN THEIR PLAN. THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A TASK IN THERE THAT THEY WANT TO INSTALL SIGNAGE AS AN EDUCATION PIECE. AND SO I MET WITH QUITE A FEW MEMBERS OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AT THE CITY, AND WE HAD A NICE CONVERSATION ABOUT MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO AND WHAT WE COULDN'T DO. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT BOILED DOWN TO WAS THAT IF IT WAS A PRIVATELY OWNED SIGN, IT WOULDN'T WORK WELL, BECAUSE CITY CODE PROHIBITS ANY KIND OF PRIVATELY OWNED SIGNS BEING IN THE LANDSCAPE STRIPS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I DON'T WANT THESE TO BE PRIVATELY OWNED SIGNS. I WANT TO DONATE THE FUNDS, WORK WITH THE CITY, AND HAVE THE CITY OWN THE SIGNS. AND THEN THE CONCERN WAS, IF THEY WERE IN THE LANDSCAPE STRIP, THEN WHICH DEPARTMENT WOULD MAINTAIN THOSE SIGNS? AND SO I LEFT THAT MEETING STILL FEELING HOPEFUL. THEN I GOT AN EMAIL ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO FROM CAITLIN LONG AND WAS TOLD THAT THE SIGNS WOULD NOT WORK THE WAY THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING THEM. I'M SURE YOU TRAVEL AND THESE SIGNS ARE COMMON IN THOUSANDS OF CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. USUALLY THEY'RE PLACED AT THE MAJOR ENTRANCES TO THESE HISTORIC DISTRICTS RIGHT THERE ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WAS LOBBYING FOR. CAITLIN SAID THAT THAT WOULD NOT WORK, BUT WHAT THE CITY DEPARTMENTS HAD DETERMINED IS THAT WE COULD HAVE A SIGN FOR THE 11TH STREET DISTRICT, PLACED IN KATE CURLEY PARK AND ASSIGNED FOR THE RIDGE DISTRICT, PLACED IN LIBERTY PARK. BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T REALLY HELP WITH THE EDUCATION PIECE WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THAT THE THAT THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IS STARTING. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A REAL VESTED INTEREST FOR THE CITY AND HAVING THIS KIND OF SIGNAGE. IT'S PRIDE OF PLACE. YOU LIVE IN A HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE MORE MOTIVATED TO MAINTAIN YOUR PROPERTY. SO I'M HERE TONIGHT JUST TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I COULD GET COUNCIL SUPPORT ON, I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE IT. I'M NOT DEMANDING A CERTAIN SIZE OF SIGN. I'M FLEXIBLE ON ALL OF THAT, BUT I JUST REALLY FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'LL REACH OUT VIA EMAIL AND SEE KIND OF WHERE YOU'RE AT. AND IF THIS SEEMS LIKE A PROJECT YOU'D LIKE TO WORK WITH ME ON, JUST FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, I HAVE A LITTLE OVER $14,000. AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD COVER PROBABLY THE NUMBER OF SIGNS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MISS PIPER. I APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT AND YOU'RE BRINGING THIS FORWARD. SO AND YOUR EMAIL WILL REALLY HELP IN CASE I DROP THE BALL IN DOING THIS IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO THANK YOU. WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOME INFORMATION FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, 
          [4. Consent Agenda]
WHICH IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. WE DO HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS THERE, AND THEY'RE ALL FAIRLY ROUTINE. AND SO WE ADDRESS THESE WITH A SINGLE MOTION. AND IF THERE ARE ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT TO PULL ANYTHING OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO SIGNAL THAT. ALL RIGHT. THEN WE'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO READ THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS INTO THE RECORD, AND THEN I'LL TURN TO OUR CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL OF THE ITEMS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, WE HAVE TONIGHT FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, AN APPOINTMENT OF TROY DEAN TO THE IDAHO FALLS GOLF ADVISORY BOARD FROM MUNICIPAL SERVICES. WE HAVE THE TREASURER'S REPORT FOR MARCH 2025 FROM PUBLIC WORKS. WE HAVE THE BID AWARD FOR SEWER LINE REHABILITATION 2025 TO VORTEX SERVICES LLC FOR $993,995. AND WE HAVE A BID AWARD FOR EAST ANDERSON STREET RAILROAD CROSSING IMPROVEMENTS TO JM CONCRETE INC FOR $171,136.60 FROM THE OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK. WE HAVE ALL THE LICENSES THAT WERE ISSUED IN APRIL OF 2025, AND WE HAVE THE COUNCIL MINUTES FROM APRIL 28TH, 2025. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. I WANT TO NOTE ONE THING BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE ACTION, WHICH IS THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE APPOINTMENT OF MR. TROY DEAN TO THE GOLF ADVISORY. ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS ALL FINE, EXCEPT THAT IT SAYS THAT HE IS REPLACING MIKE COLE, AND IN FACT, HE'S REPLACING MARK COLE. AND MARK IS SOMEONE I AM ACQUAINTED WITH, AND HE HAS PUT HIS HEART AND SOUL INTO, INTO HIS SERVICE THERE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THAT RIGHT. WITH THAT, I WILL TURN TO THE CITY CLERK FOR A MOTION. OKAY. 
          WITH THAT CHANGE, I WOULD MOVE THAT COUNCIL, APPROVE, ACCEPT AND RECEIVE ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS PRESENTED. SECOND. THANK YOU, CITY CLERK. 
          [00:15:03]
WILL YOU CONDUCT A VOTE FOR US, PLEASE? YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS A FREEMAN. YES. LARSEN. 
          YES. RADFORD. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT TAKES US TO THE DIRECT 
          [5.A.1)  IFP 25-14 Upper Development Dam No. 1 - Coffer Dam]
ACTION ITEMS. WE HAVE SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE BRINGING BUSINESS TO THE COUNCIL TONIGHT. 
          THE FIRST ONE COMES TO US FROM IDAHO FALLS. POWER. RICHARD MALLOY IS HERE REPRESENTING IF POWER TONIGHT. AND I BELIEVE COUNCILOR FREEMAN IS PREPARED TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE ABOVE AND BEYOND. WHAT? MIKE, ARE YOU WANTING TO OR. EXCUSE ME? RICHARD, ARE YOU WANTING TO DO A PRESENTATION FOR US OF WHAT THE ITEM IS ABOUT, OR ARE YOU MOSTLY PREPARED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL INVITE YOU TO THE MIC WHEN THAT IF THAT COMES. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, COUNCILOR FREEMAN, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS. 
          EXCUSE ME. THIS IS TO BUILD A COFFER DAM AT THE UPPER POWER PLANT SO THEY CAN DO GATE WORK ON THE AT THE PLANT, AMONG OTHER THINGS. BUT THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WE HAD A COFFER DAM BUILT AT THAT LOCATION 8 OR 10 YEARS AGO. IF YOU RECALL, ON THE OTHER CHANNEL WHY WE'RE DOING SOME WORK THERE, AND IT CAME IN ABOUT $150,000. THIS ONE CAME IN AT ALMOST $1 MILLION. AND SO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REJECT THE BID AND THEN GO TO THE OPEN MARKET. THEY THINK THEY CAN GET THE WORK DONE CHEAPER THAN THE $967,000 THAT WAS BID WITH THE SINGLE BID THAT WE GOT. AND SO, MR. MALLOY, COULD YOU JUST MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND AS TO WHY YOU SUPPOSE THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE BIDDER, AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE COST DRIVERS WERE BEFORE THE COUNCIL CONSIDERS OR TAKES TAKES THE ACTION TO EXCUSE US FROM THE REGULAR PROCESSES AND TO GO INTO THE OPEN MARKET? CAN YOU JUST MAYBE GIVE US A LITTLE OF YOUR THOUGHTS? SURE. SO I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS AT PLAY HERE. SO NUMBER ONE, WE'VE FITTED A LITTLE LATER THAN WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO. WE WERE WAITING FOR REGULATORY APPROVALS. SO. YOU KNOW, IDEALLY WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GOT IT UP IN THE WINTER TIME. BUT LIKE I SAID, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE APPROVALS TO DO. SO. I THINK THE COFFER DAM IS KIND OF A SPECIALIZED CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THAT THERE'S PROBABLY A LIMITED NUMBER OF DIRT WORK CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE MARKET IS STILL PRETTY, PRETTY HOT HERE IN IDAHO FALLS. WE HAVE A LOT MORE WORK THAN WE HAVE CONTRACTORS AVAILABLE TO DO IT. SO. COUNCILMAN FREEMAN IS CORRECT. WE DID DO A COFFER DAM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CHANNEL AT DELTA PLANT, AND THE COFFER DAM ITSELF AT THAT TIME WAS ONLY $50,000. AND THE SEDIMENTATION REMOVAL WAS THAT WAS THE BALANCE OF IT. BUT THE CONTRACTOR THAT DID THAT WORK DID NOT BID ON THIS PROJECT. AND WE DON'T YOU CAN ONLY SPECULATE WHY, BUT IT WAS THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT WE WERE GOING TO REACH OUT TO. IF WE GOT APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL. AND SO OKAY, SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THERE NEEDS TO BE THIS FINDING THEN THAT SORRY, THAT STATED IN THE MEMO THAT THE FINDING WOULD BE THAT IT'S MORE ECONOMICAL TO GO INTO THE OPEN MARKET RATHER THAN TO USE THE REGULAR PURCHASE AND BIDDING, BIDDING AND PURCHASE SYSTEM. AND SO ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR MISTER MALLOY? COUNCILOR, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. SO IS THIS COFFER DAM NECESSARY IN ORDER TO DO THE GATE WORK? DOES ONE COME BEFORE THE OTHER, OR DO THEY JUST CONVENIENTLY GO TOGETHER? YES. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE COFFER DAM TO DE-WATER THE STRETCH DOWNSTREAM FROM THAT TO THE GATES. THE GATES THEMSELVES NEED TO BE DE-WATER IN ORDER TO DESCALE RESEAL THAT KIND OF THING. OKAY, OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE AND YOU VOTE. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MALLOY. COUNCILOR FREEMAN, WE'LL TURN TO YOU FOR A MOTION. WE'LL SEE WHERE THIS LANDS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE THAT COUNCIL. REJECT THE SINGLE BID RECEIVED FROM BFC DIVERSIFIED LLC. MAKING MAKE A FINDING THAT IT WOULD BE MORE ECONOMICAL TO PURCHASE THE REQUIRED SERVICES ON THE OPEN MARKET AND GIVE THE AUTHORITY TO DIRECT THE MAYOR AND STAFF TO SECURE MORE ECONOMICAL CONTRACTORS. I'LL SECOND OPEN MARKET TO PERFORM THE WORK. THANK YOU. I WILL SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND CITY CLERK. WILL YOU CONDUCT A VOTE? BURTONSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS I. FREEMAN. YES. LARSEN. 
          YES. RADFORD. ALL RIGHT. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE, I THINK I DON'T KNOW 
          [5.B.1) Bid Award - Microsurfacing 2025]
IF IT'S A COUPLE. NO, JUST A SINGLE ITEM FROM PUBLIC WORKS. THIS IS A BID AWARD FOR MICRO SURFACING. AND, DIRECTOR FREDERICKSON, YOU ARE HERE WITH US THIS EVENING. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY BY. BY WAY OF INTRODUCING THIS TOPIC TO THE COUNCIL? THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD SAY THIS IS JUST PART OF OUR REGULAR ROADWAY MAINTENANCE WORK THAT WE HAVE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. IT'S BEEN SOME TIME THAT WE DID A MICRO SURFACING PROJECT, BUT WE DO FEEL 
          [00:20:03]
CONFIDENT THAT THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED, IT WAS A BID FROM A CONTRACTOR IN SALT LAKE CITY THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST, BUT WE DO RECOMMEND AWARD OF THIS PROJECT. IT WILL APPLY MICRO SURFACING ON A NUMBER OF OUR STREETS HERE IN TOWN AND PIONEER ROAD, ALL OF JOHN ADAMS AND A NUMBER OF OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGH IF THERE ARE. I'M CURIOUS, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF EVERYBODY IS COMPLETELY FAMILIAR WITH MICRO SURFACING USUALLY, OR IN THE OLDEN DAYS, WE DID JUST DID RESURFACING. AND SO IF THERE ARE THOSE QUESTIONS, BE SURE TO ASK THEM. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, COUNCILOR FREEMAN DOES HAVE A QUESTION. I'M JUST RECALLING THAT. DIDN'T WE DO SUNNYSIDE WITH A MICRO SURFACE IN THE YEARS PAST? AND WE WERE IT WAS LIKE THE FIRST TIME WE'D DONE IT, AND WE WERE WANTING TO SEE HOW IT TURNED OUT, BUT IT HAS BEEN VERY DURABLE. IT HAS TURNED OUT PRETTY WELL. SUNNYSIDE, SOME OF 25TH STREET ROAD. AND THEN WE HAD SOME OF OUR HIGHER TRAFFIC COLLECTOR STREETS, 10TH AND 11TH, I BELIEVE WE'RE DONE. SO WE'VE BEEN HAPPY WITH THE PROCESS. OKAY. YEAH. AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT CUTS DOWN ON THE GRAVEL THAT FLIES AROUND. YEAH. THIS IS MORE LIKE IT'S REALLY JUST A THIN LIFT OVERLAY. THERE'S A LOT MORE CONTROL ON THE AGGREGATE THAT GOES INTO THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT ADHERES TO THE ROADWAY. SOME EARLY MICRO SEALS THAT THE STATE OF IDAHO APPLIED, ONCE THEY START TO UNRAVEL, THEY CAN BE VERY PROBLEMATIC. AND SO WE DID WANT TO TRY ONE AGAIN AND SEE HOW THEY PERFORM THAT THEY THEY'VE DONE VERY WELL. SO WE'VE BEEN PRETTY HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO THIS ONE AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK WE MAY BE READY FOR A MOTION. WHICH COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING TO MAKE A COUNCILOR LARSON I MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS ACCORDING OR AWARDED TO THE ONLY RESPONSIVE RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, INTERMOUNTAIN SLURRY SEAL, INC, IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,224,512 AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND, THANK YOU FOR THAT, THE CLERK. WE ARE READY FOR A VOTE. 
          BURTONSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS I. FREEMAN. YES. LARSON. YES. RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. SO, COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CAN YOU SEE WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HOW WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF THE ROADS IN IDAHO FALLS BECAUSE YOU'RE SPENDING $1.2 MILLION TO DO JUST THAT VERY THING. THIS HAPPENS REGULARLY IN THE CITY. IT'S USUALLY THE WEATHER THAT'S OUR ENEMY, NOT LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND CARE AND ATTENTION. SO WITH THAT, WE ARE 
          [5.C.1) Guaranteed Maximum Price Amendment with Clayco, Inc.]
READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT WITH BUSINESS BEFORE THE COUNCIL. AND THAT IS THE AIRPORT. OUR DIRECTOR, IAN TURNER, IS HERE THIS EVENING WITH THE BRILLIANT BLUE TURQUOISE. WHAT CARIBBEAN BLUE SHIRT ON. IT'S VERY NICE. WE CAN GET CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. AND SO YOU ARE GOING TO BE TALKING TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND SOME MONEY THAT WE NEED TO EXPEND TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. FELT LIKE THE WEATHER MEANT THAT THE SHIRT WAS MEANT FOR THE WEATHER. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU APPROVES A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT. CLAYCO INCORPORATED'S, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER GENERAL CONTRACTOR CONTRACT FOR THE TERMINAL EXPANSION. THIS PORTION OF WORK DOES WHAT WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE ENABLING WORK TRULY RELOCATES UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE SIZES THEM TO MEET THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE TERMINAL. AS OUR CURRENT AIRPORT MASTER PLAN FORECASTS. OKAY, COUNCILMEMBER FREEMAN DISTRACTED ME THERE. IT MEETS THE ANTICIPATED FUTURE DEMAND OF THE TERMINAL BUILDING. 
          THAT TOTAL COST IS $11,945,956 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. THAT AMOUNT IS COVERED BY EXISTING GRANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY WE HAVE A GRANT AGREEMENT FOR AS WELL AS GRANT FUNDS DEDICATED TO IDAHO FALLS. THIS IS THE REQUIRED USABLE UNIT OF WORK THAT THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION NEEDS FOR OUR EXISTING GRANTS. FOR US TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE TERMS OF THOSE GRANT CONDITIONS. AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. TURNER, COUNCILOR FRANCIS, SO IS THIS WHAT DOES THE WORK BEHIND THE TICKET COUNTER, SO TO SPEAK, ALL THE LUGGAGE THING OR THIS DOES NOT TOUCH MUCH OF THE BUILDING. IT MOVES ALL OF THE EXISTING UTILITIES THAT IS UNDER THE BUILDING. OKAY. PUTS THEM INTO WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE POWERHOUSE AND THEN SETS THE BUILDING UP FOR SORRY, MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO DO THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS WORK HAS TO GO FORWARD REGARDLESS OF ANY FUTURE EXPANSION. SO IT'S LIKE THE FIRST STEP HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION OR A NECESSARY STEP. SO IF YOU GO BACK TO WHEN THE CONTRACT WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED, IT WAS PART OF PHASE ONE. AS WE'VE PROGRESSED THROUGH THAT TECHNICALLY PHASE ZERO OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS PREPARATORY WORK MUST HAPPEN IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. TURNER. WELL THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. AS COUNCIL 
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PRESIDENT YOU ARE LIAISON TO THAT DEPARTMENT. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY TO YOUR COLLEAGUES OR KICK OFF CONVERSATION, I WILL ONLY SAY THIS, THAT THERE ARE THREE THINGS THAT THREE PHRASES THAT HE USED THAT I WATCH FOR, THAT IT'S USABLE UNIT OF WORK WHICH HELPS US, WHICH GUARANTEES THAT WE CAN USE THIS MONEY. THE MONEY IS IN THE BANK, AND THAT THIS IS THE ENABLING WORK TO MOVE US FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE KEYS THAT I LISTEN FOR IN MY MIND WHEN, I MEAN, I KNEW IT BEFORE, BUT THOSE ARE ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY THAT IT'LL BE PART OF OUR GRANT ASSURANCES THAT IT WILL COUNT TOWARDS THAT. 
          AND IT'S THE ENABLING WORK. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. YOU SAID THEM ALL. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE WE VOTE. ALL RIGHT THEN, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'LL STAND FOR A MOMENT. OKAY. I WOULD MOVE THAT. WE APPROVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AMENDMENT WITH CLAYCO INCORPORATED TO CONSTRUCT THE UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE FOR THE IDAHO FALLS REGIONAL AIRPORT TERMINAL BUILDING. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND CITY CLERK. WILL YOU CONDUCT THAT VOTE FOR US? BRADFORD A BURTENSHAW. YES. LARSON. YES. 
          DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS A. FREEMAN. YES. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. 
          [5.D.1) Quasi-Judicial Public Hearing - Planned Unit Development (PUD) and Reasoned Statement of Relevant Criteria and Standards, Donner Townhomes.]
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DOING ON BEHALF OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONDUCT A HEARING. AND THAT HEARING IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S INVOLVING. A PUD. AND I'M WONDERING IF ANY OF YOU HAVE LOOKED AT THAT AND DETERMINED THAT YOU DON'T WANT OR CANNOT BE A PART OF IT. DOES ANYBODY NEED TO RECUSE THEMSELVES? ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD. WE WILL CALL THE HEARING TO ORDER. WE'LL INVITE ALL TESTIMONY TO BE GIVEN, AS WELL AS THE WRITTEN RECORD IN OUR AGENDA PACKET AND THE SLIDES TO BE PRESENTED, AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT MAY ANY OTHER WRITTEN MATERIALS TO BE A PART OF THAT OFFICIAL RECORD. WE'LL ALSO START WITH A PRESENTATION EITHER FROM THE OWNER OR FROM THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS CONNECT ENGINEERING. 
          AND THEN WE'LL TURN TO MR. SANNER, OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, FOR A CITY STAFF REPORT. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL TAKE ANY COMMENTARY THAT THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE, GIVE, CONNECT ENGINEERING AND OR THE OWNER WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE ONLINE, WHO IS ONLINE, ALSO HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT ANYTHING THAT IS SAID. AND SO WE'LL START WITH CONNECT ENGINEERING, I GUESS REPRESENTING THE OWNER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS BARRY BANE WITH CONNECT ENGINEERING, 2295 NORTH YELLOWSTONE, SUITE SIX, HERE IN IDAHO FALLS. FOR THIS JUST FOR YOU ALSO HEAR YOURSELF. TODAY WE HAVE BEFORE YOU A PUD PROPOSAL HERE IN IDAHO FALLS. IF I CAN SHOW WHERE THIS IS. THIS IS OVER JUST DIRECTLY NORTH OF WINCO. 
          THIS IS DIRECTLY EAST OF THE PUD. SAME OWNERS, SAME OWNERSHIP GROUP, SAME STYLE, A LOT OF VERY SIMILAR. SIMILARITIES IN BOTH OF THEM. HERE. THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED H OR LC. EXCUSE ME. LC SURROUNDED BY LC ON ALL SIDES EXCEPT THE NORTH WHICH IS R1 TO THE NORTH. THE PUD THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. THAT THAT YOU'LL SEE THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE. A LITTLE CRAMMED IN THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO TRY AND FIT ON THIS ONE, BUT A FEW OF IT THAT I'LL, THAT I'LL HIGHLIGHT HERE. THIS PUD IS, IS PLANNED TO BE PLATTED INDIVIDUALLY. EACH INDIVIDUAL UNIT WILL BE ABLE TO BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY. SO IT'LL BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO BE SOLD. THERE ARE PLANNED TO BE 56 UNITS IN THIS 4.2 ACRE PARCEL, WHICH IS ABOUT 13 UNITS TO THE ACRE. WHEN LC IS DEVELOPED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL, IT FALLS UNDER R3 EIGHT CODE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR 35 UNITS TO THE ACRE. SO WE'RE WELL WELL UNDER THE MAX UNIT PER ACRE ALLOWED HERE. A LITTLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DIVISION ONE AND THIS ONE IS THERE'S SOME OF THESE UNITS THAT HAVE A LITTLE MORE. BACK. BACKYARD AREA ON SOME OF THESE ONES. AND THESE ONES HERE ARE NO GARAGE UNITS ON 
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DIVISION ONE. THEY WERE ALL EITHER ONE CAR OR TWO CAR, WHICH IN HERE WE STILL HAVE ONE CAR UNITS AND TWO CAR UNITS. BUT WE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS ADDED SOME NO CAR, NO GARAGES IN THERE JUST FOR AGAIN DIVERSITY AND DIFFERENT MARKETS THERE. THERE ARE SOME NOTATING ERRORS THAT I THAT I DID JUST NOTICE SITTING DOWN THERE. YOU PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO READ IT BUT BUT IF YOU LOOK ON ON THE COMMON SPACE IT TALKS ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS AND HOW MUCH IS GIVEN. AND IT SAYS ACRES IN THERE. SO IT SAYS LIKE 48,000 ACRES, WHICH THAT SHOULD BE SQUARE FEET. SO JUST TO CHANGE THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE'S SOME NOTATION THERE THAT WE DEFINITELY AREN'T REQUIRED 48,000 ACRES AND ARE NOT GIVING ACRES TO THAT. SO WITH THAT THOUGH, I BRING UP SOME VARIANCE REQUESTS THAT WE ARE ASKING AS IT GOES ALONG THOSE LINES. ONE OF THEM YOU'LL SEE ON ON HERE THAT THERE ARE NOT AMENITIES PROVIDED IN PUDS. THE REQUIREMENT IS ONE AMENDING BEING PER 50 UNITS. SO THAT'S ONE IS THAT THESE AMENDING THESE ARE PLANNED TO BE NEXT DOOR NEXT TO THE DIVISION ONE PLAN. AND THIS ONE IS AN UPDATED IN ON THE CITY PROPERTIES. WHERE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THAT. RIGHT. WHAT WE HAVE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN YEAH, THAT'S SHOWING A DOG PARK ON THE SOUTH. YEAH. SO THIS THIS GIVES THE IDEA THAT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT. SO THE FIRST VARIANCE IS AMENITIES NOT TO BE ON THE PROPERTY. AND THEN THE SECOND VARIANCE IS THE COMMON SPACE WHICH PODS REQUIRE 25% COMMON SPACE. AND ON OUR ON OUR PLAN WE ARE PROPOSING 16% COMMON SPACE. OKAY. TO OFFSET THOSE VARIANCE THAT THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR, WE'RE WORKING WITH HAVE WORKED AND WILL CONTINUE AND ARE WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECS AND HAVE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL AMENITIES INSTEAD OF JUST THE REQUIRED TWO. AMEND AND CONCUR. YEAH. TO AMENDING THESE THREE AMENITIES, WORKING WITH PARKS AND RECS AND THEN ALSO TREES AND STUFF LIKE THAT ON THE CITY PROPERTY. SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO A TRADE FOR THAT AS WELL AS BE ABLE TO NOT HAVE JUST AMENITIES THAT JUST THE DONNER TOWNHOMES CAN BE USED. BUT IN THIS AREA THAT CAN BE MORE OF A COMMUNITY PARK, WORKING WITH PARKS TO TURN OVER TO THE PARKS AND RECS DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY FOR MORE PEOPLE IN THE AREA TO USE. 
          AGAIN. I WILL NOTE THAT THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, AS I BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL. IT STILL HAS A WALKING PATH, PICKLEBALL AND PARKING. THE PARKING HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. IT'S ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE SO THAT IT'S FEEL SAFER. PEOPLE AREN'T WALKING ACROSS PARKING LOTS TO GET TO GET TO STUFF. SO SAME, SAME IDEA, JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT LAYOUT. THE DEVELOPERS CLIENTS ARE ONLINE AND THEY HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND CAN PROBABLY ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT THAN I CAN IF THERE ARE, WE ARE PLANNING TO PHASE THE PROJECT AS WELL, AND A FEW DIFFERENT PHASES HERE, BUT THE HOPE IS THAT IT'LL ADD NEEDED HOMES AND NEEDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO IDAHO FALLS AREA. SO WITH THAT, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY, THANK YOU. WHICH PHASE WOULD BE FIRST? THE BLUE ON THE WEST OR THE GREEN ON THE EAST? THE WEST SIDE? THE WEST SIDE? YES. OKAY. AND LEFT TO RIGHT. THAT WRONG. AWESOME. OKAY OKAY. 
          OH YEAH. YEAH. LEFT TO RIGHT IS THE ANTICIPATION FOR THIS NOW. RIGHT NOW EASY STREET FEELS MORE LIKE JUST PART OF THE WINCO PARKING LOT. WILL THAT FEELING CHANGE A BIT OR IS IT GOING TO. 
          AND MAYBE I'M NOT REMEMBERING CORRECTLY. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY, I GUESS I'M SURPRISED TO THE POINT THAT IT IS A PRIVATE. IT IS A PRIVATE STREET THAT THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. SO IT IS A PRIVATE DRIVE. OKAY. SO THAT'S AND IT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THIS PROJECT IN ANY WAY. RIGHT. WELL IT IS AND I GUESS THAT BRINGS UP THE, THE PARKING 
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REQUIREMENT BECAUSE IT IS A PRIVATE STREET. THERE IS PARKING THAT THE OWNERS HAVE WITH WINCO AND THIS IS PART OF THEIR PARKING THAT THEY USE FOR THAT. SO THERE WILL BE PARKING ALONG THERE AND YOU'LL SEE THE UNITS ON THE, ON THE EAST. YOU KNOW, THESE TWO CARS, THEY FACE THAT AS WELL. SO IT'LL BE MORE OF A FRONT FRONT ENTRY TO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. SO IT'S SORT OF THE UNITS THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE WILL BE FACING THE BACK OF THE UNIT OF THE UNITS THAT FACE THE WINCO PARKING LOT. SAY THAT AGAIN, I'M NOT MAKING ANY SENSE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF HOW PLAYED OUT. SO THE THAT STREET THERE, THE ONE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE. NOT THAT ONE. NOT THAT ONE. PRIVATE. YEAH. SO THE OTHER PRIVATE STREET. OKAY. THE OTHER PRIVATE STREET. THE NEIGHBORS THEN WILL NOT BE FACING EACH OTHER. SO THE FRONT THE FRONT, THEY'LL BOTH HAVE FRONTS FACING THE SAME DIRECTION, WHICH IS TOWARD WINCO. CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. 
          YEAH. SO. SO THESE NO GARAGE UNITS WILL FACE EAST. THE PRIVATE STREET HERE AND THESE TWO DOOR, TWO GARAGE UNITS WILL HAVE WILL BE REAR ENTRY FOR THE GARAGE, BUT THEIR FRONT DOOR IS FACING EAST. SO LIKE THEY WOULD BE FACING A PUBLIC STREET FERRY. YES. CAN I PULL UP SOMETHING ELSE? TANNER JUST MESSAGED ME AND WE MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP YOU. OKAY. YEAH. SO A DIFFERENT SLIDE. PERHAPS THE RENDERING. THE RENDERING THERE IN THAT FILE. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. 
          I THINK I HAD MISUNDERSTOOD THE ORIENTATION OF THE DOORS. SO. SO THEY'RE ALL INDIVIDUAL FILES. SO TELL ME IF YOU WANT ME TO PULL UP A DIFFERENT ONE. SO THAT'S A PRETTY YOU'LL SEE THAT. SO OKAY SO THERE'S EASY STREET PARKING. YEAH. SO THIS IS THE NEW ROAD THAT COMES IN THIS OVER HERE IS PHASE ONE. NO IT'S OVER HERE IS PHASE ONE. THAT'S ALREADY FOR DIVISION ONE. SORRY. THAT'S ALREADY DONE. AND THEN TO THE RIGHT OF THAT. SO THAT'S THE WHOLE PROJECT BUILT OUT. THANK YOU ONE AND TWO. SO THANK YOU I APPRECIATE WHOEVER SENT THAT RENDERING THE OWNER OR THE OWNER'S REP ONLINE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT I'M DONE ASKING MY QUESTIONS TO GET MYSELF ORIENTED. COUNSELOR LARSON HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE ON THE WALKING PATH AND KIND OF HOW THAT CONNECTS TO THINGS AND SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE PARK? YES. 
          YEAH. SO IN THAT, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT A DIFFERENT ONE. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW. IF THEY HAVE, THEY PROBABLY HAVE A RENDERING OF THE PARK AS WELL. YEAH THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. THAT'S THE ONE THAT, THAT I HAVE. YEAH. YEAH. SO THAT ONE IN YOUR PACKET YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT WALKING PATH GOES FROM, FROM THE PARKING AND, AND THE SIDEWALK. NEXT TO THE CANAL THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE PARK AND CONNECT TO THE, TO THE DOG PARK AS WELL. SO THAT WILL HELP CONNECTIVITY ALL ALL THE WAY AROUND. ALSO NOT JUST FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT. SO. AND DOES THE PARK AND DOES ENTER INTO THE PARKING LOT. DOES THAT COME OFF OF GARFIELD. YES. SO IT COMES OFF OF GARFIELD PARALLEL TO THE CANAL. AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY TEN STALLS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          AND THEN THE PATH COMES UP. CORRECT? OKAY. SO, SO ASPHALTED FROM FROM GARFIELD ALL THE WAY THROUGH INTO THE PARK. YEAH. THROUGH THE PARKING. THE PARKING STALLS WILL BE ASPHALTED. THANK YOU. SO THEN THAT PATHWAY THEY COULD GET FROM THE GARFIELD SIDE OR FROM THE DOG PARK SIDE OR SO MULTIPLE PLACES WHERE THEY CAN GET THERE. OR AGAIN, FROM THE COMMUNITY. THEY COULD WALK TO IT AND THEN WALK BACK. SO CONNECTIVITY AND SAFETY I THINK WILL BE KEY FOR THAT THERE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COUNCILOR RADFORD, AS I READ THROUGH THIS, I WAS INTERESTED TO SEE THAT SOME OF THE PARK ELEMENTS WERE ALSO PHASED. AND COULD YOU. IT MAKES ME NERVOUS AS WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS. WE'VE HAD PHASED APPROACHES IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY. WE WAITED FOR A BRIDGE FOR 20 YEARS. ONES? YEAH. CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THAT AND WHICH PHASES YOU THINK WILL BE GOING IN RIGHT AWAY? I MEAN, IT KIND OF DESCRIBED IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOU KIND OF WALK THROUGH THAT WITH THE PICTURE OF THE PARK AND VALID CONCERN. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK THAT THE CITY HAS DEFINITELY LEARNED FROM THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF PUDS THAT I'VE SEEN AS WELL, THAT THE AMENITIES NEVER GET BUILT BECAUSE THE IT'S IN THE LAST PHASE AND IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO VALID CONCERN. 
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ABSOLUTELY. WHICH WHICH NOW IN ALL THE PEDS THAT THAT COME FORWARD THE FIRST AMENITY HAS TO BE BUILT WITH THE FIRST PHASE. SO THAT THAT'S THE APPROACH THAT THIS IS ALSO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, THE FIRST AMENITY, WHICH WOULD BE THE, WHICH WOULD BE THE PATHWAY WHICH WORKING WITH PARKS, THAT'S WHAT PARKS FELT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO GO FIRST. AND THAT WILL BE BUILT WITH PHASE ONE. AND THEN THE PARKING WILL COME NEXT, WHICH WOULD BE WHEN IT WOULD HIT THE REQUIREMENT IN THE PUD FOR THE SECOND AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD BE OVER 50, THE SECOND 50. SO THAT WOULD BE PHASE FOUR IN IN THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE PICKLEBALL WOULD, WOULD COME LAST. AND IN, IN YOUR PACKET IN THERE, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS IT WOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE COES ARE ISSUED. SO THERE'S THAT TIE THERE THAT THEY DON'T GET IT DONE. THEY'RE NOT GETTING STEALS. SO BECAUSE I AGREE THAT I THINK THAT THE CITY IS DEFINITELY LEARNED AND PUT THOSE INTO PLACE TO HELP PROTECT THAT. SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT CARIBOU PARK WAS A DOG PARK. AND SO WE'RE INTRODUCING PICKLEBALL INTO A DOG PARK. SO WE'RE CHANGING THE USE OF THE PARK A LITTLE BIT. NO. SO THERE ARE TWO PLATES. YEAH. SO THIS OVER HERE IS THE EXISTING DOG PARK THAT WAS BUILT WITH DIVISION ONE. GOT IT. AND THAT THAT WILL STAY. THE REST OF THIS WILL CONNECT AGAIN. THAT PATHWAY WILL CONNECT TO IT CONNECTIVITY. BUT YET WE'RE NOT REPLACING THAT AT ALL. THAT'S THAT'S STAYING THERE. I'M SORRY FOR HAVING MISUNDERSTOOD THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED. THREE AMENITIES. BUT EARLIER YOU TALKED ABOUT TREES. 
          WHERE DO TREES FIT IN. YEAH. ARE THEY ON. AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE UPDATED ONE IN YOUR PACKET THAT THERE'S TREES ON THERE AND. SO THOSE NEW TREES, LARGER TREES AND THEN OTHER TREES AS WELL. 
          THOSE THEY LOOK LIKE THOSE, THOSE RIGHT THERE. YEAH. BUT SO YOU MENTIONED THE FIRST AMENITY WAS THE PATHWAY. THE SECOND WAS PARKING. AND THE THIRD WAS PICKLEBALL. YES. AND SO WHERE DID TREES FIT IN TO THOSE THREE I GUESS I'M NOT CONSIDERING TREES AS AN AMENITY. OH OKAY. 
          OKAY. I THOUGHT THEY WERE. GOT IT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FOR MR. BAIN? COUNCILOR FRANCIS? YEAH, I'M. I'M SURPRISED PARKING COUNTS AS AN AMENITY. YEAH. AND WE'VE WORKED WITH AGAIN WITH PARKS THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO IT TO THE PARK. AND SO THEY HAVE WORKED TOGETHER WITH US AND WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES MANAGER TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT THEY THEY ARE CONSIDERING THAT AMENITY BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR IT AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR IT. AND IN, IN THE PARK. OKAY. AND I'M USED TO PUDS AMENITIES BEING PRETTY SPECIFIC. SO ARE YOU COMMITTING THAT ONE OF THEM IS DEFINITELY THE PICKLEBALL COURT BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF BEGGED THE WAY I READ THE NOTES IN THE IN THE AGENDA PACKET. SO IT'S A POSSIBILITY OF PICKLEBALL COURTS, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A DEFINITE. SO I THINK AND MAYBE THE DEVELOPERS CAN CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW THEY TALKED WITH PARKS ON THAT. BUT FROM WHAT I, WHAT I BELIEVE IS, YES, UNLESS PARKS SPECIFICALLY SAYS THEY WANT TO SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE PARK, I THINK IN HERE IT GIVES THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO, TO ACCEPT OR OR ALTER HOW THEY SEE FIT. NOT THAT WE WOULD COME AND SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO DO THIS. INSTEAD, IT WOULD BE PARKS SAYING, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE THE NEED TO BE OKAY. THIS IS THE AMENITY THAT WE WANT. AND YEAH, MY OTHER QUESTION RELATES TO SOMETHING THE MAYOR SAID ABOUT, IS THIS MEAN YOU'RE TAKING OVER EASY STREET AND THE MAINTENANCE OF EASY STREET. SO EASY, EASY, EASY STREET IS ALREADY PRIVATE STREET PRIVATELY MAINTAINED. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO USE IT FOR PARKING SO CORRECTLY. YEAH. HOLD ON. I'M SORRY. ALSO, I HAVE TANNER THAT WANTED TO CHIME IN ON YOUR FIRST QUESTION, COUNCILOR. SO WE'LL FINISH HERE BEFORE WE TURN TO TANNER. YEAH, I'LL FINISH WITH COUNCILOR AND MR. BAINS COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE TO. SO EASY STREET IS ALREADY PRIVATELY MAINTAINED. SO IN THEIR OWNERSHIP AGREEMENT, THEIR PURCHASE SALE, IT'S MAINTAINED. 
          SO THEY'RE THEY'RE ALREADY PART OF THE MAINTAINING PROCESS. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE WINCO SIDE OF IT. YEAH. THEY MAINTAIN THEIR THEIR THEIR CROSS ACCESS AND LEASE. AND ALL OF THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THAT OKAY. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL. WHICH IS THE ONLY REASON WHY THEY CAN PARK ON 
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THERE. BECAUSE AGAIN, IF IT'S IF IT WERE A PUBLIC STREET THAT WOULDN'T BE ACCEPTABLE, RIGHT? YEAH. THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK I FORGOT TO MENTION, THAT JUST THAT I HAVEN'T NAILED DOWN, WAS THERE WILL BE WATER AND SEWER RAN RAN THROUGH THE PROJECT, PUBLIC WATER, PUBLIC SEWER THAT WILL HAVE EASEMENTS OVER IT. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PRIVATE STREET INSIDE, THERE'S A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT THERE SO THAT PUBLIC WORKS CAN STILL MAINTAIN THEIR THEIR MAIN LINE. 
          SO EACH UNIT WILL HAVE INDIVIDUAL WATER AND SEWER POWER. THANK YOU, MR. BAIN. 
          COUNCILOR FREEMAN HAS ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M JUST CONFUSED ABOUT EASY STREET AND CARIBOU STREET. HOW DOES EASY STREET MAKE A 90 DEGREE CORNER COMING THROUGH THAT? YEAH. RIGHT THERE IT IT'S ALL EASY STREET. IT DOESN'T BECOME CARIBOU AS IT'S GOING EAST. OKAY. IF YOU GO THROUGH THE LIGHT IT BECOMES CARIBOU. CARIBOU. YEAH I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THAT TOO. SO OKAY. SO YES. EASY STREET IS AN EASY STREET IS AN L-SHAPED STREET. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. SO, MR. BAIN, WE'D ASK YOU NOT TO LEAVE UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH THE HEARING IF YOUR SCHEDULE ALLOWS. 
          BECAUSE WE MAY YET HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE EITHER THE OWNER OR OTHER OWNER REPS ON THE LINE. SO WE WOULD INVITE YOU TO OFFER ANY INSIGHT YOU HAVE AT THIS TIME. IN ADDITION, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOUR AFFILIATION WITH THE PROJECT. YES. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TANNER BROOKS. I'M WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AT HAVEN, IDAHO, ONE OF THE PRINCIPALS, AND YES, I WAS JUST HERE FOR ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS WANTED MORE COLOR OR BACKGROUND ON THAT BARRIERS REFERRING TO. I HEARD SPECIFIC QUESTIONS REGARDING IF PICKLEBALL WAS A FOR SURE AMENITY, AND THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES, BARRY. WHAT BARRY SAID WAS CORRECT. PJ COMB AND JOSH, WE WERE TALKING WITH THEM AND THEY SAID, HEY, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY WE COULD GET A GRANT TO BUILD A PICKLEBALL COURT. IF THAT HAPPENS, WE'LL BUILD A PICKLEBALL COURT, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SWAP OUT THE AMENITY THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BUILD TO SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE A RESTROOM OR OR A PLAYGROUND OR SOMETHING ELSE. SO WE JUST WANTED TO LEAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY THERE FOR PARKS AND REC TO HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER THE AMENITIES, DEPENDING ON FUNDING AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THE DEFAULT IS TO BUILD A PICKLEBALL COURT. THANK YOU. THAT THAT DEFINITELY ANSWERS THAT CONCERN. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR TANNER? I, I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S FOR HIM. IT MIGHT JUST BE FOR OUR OWN PARKS AND REC. BUT AND IT PROBABLY I'LL JUST ASK THE QUESTION, THEN WE CAN DECIDE WHO CAN ANSWER IT. 
          BUT IT FEELS TO ME LIKE IF THIS IS A PUBLIC PARK AND THAT THERE IS A VARIANCE FOR THE COMMON SPACE, THAT THE PARKING LOT FEELS LIKE IT, IT INVITES PEOPLE TO THAT PARK LIKE IT IS A PUBLIC PARK, MORE THAN ANY OF THE AMENITIES BUILT IN THE PARK. SO I'M JUST WONDERING MAYBE WHY IT WAS DECIDED WHAT WOULD COME, WHAT WOULD COME FIRST, BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE I. MY SENSE IS THAT IT WILL ALWAYS FEEL LIKE IT'S A PRIVATE PARK UNTIL WE GET A PARKING LOT THERE, OR SOME SOME KIND OF ACCESS OFF OF THE ROAD FROM IT. IT'LL FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOT THE CANAL, SO THAT MAYBE FOR PARKS AND REC TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. IF WE'RE REALLY GOING TO GIVE THAT VARIANCE ON THE COMMON SPACE, SO THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MIGHT BE MORE OF A COMMENT FOR WHEN YOU ARE CONSIDERING THE ISSUE, UNLESS THERE'S A QUESTION EMBEDDED IN THERE THAT THE QUESTION IS, IS WHO DETERMINES WHAT THE WHAT THE FIRST WHETHER IT WAS PARKING OR THE PATHWAY. CORRECT. OKAY. IS THERE AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF WHICH CAME FIRST OR WHY PATHWAY WAS CHOSEN TO COME FIRST? PARKS AND REC. YEAH OKAY OKAY OKAY OKAY. THEN THERE'S I'M GLAD WE HAD AN ANSWER TO THAT. MR. BAILEY HAD MORE. YEAH, I THINK THAT I AGREE THAT THAT THAT'S INVITING AND INVITES PEOPLE TO COME. I THINK I THINK THAT THE INTENT FOR THE WALKING PATH FIRST WAS THEN IT'S A, IT'S A WALKABLE PARK. SO PEOPLE ARE STILL THERE BEING ABLE TO WALK. 
          BUT I, I TOTALLY GET WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. AND I DON'T THINK US OR THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US WHICH ONE GOES FIRST. WE JUST WANT TO DO WHAT'S WANTED. SO IF THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE, IF IT'S IN, IF PARKS WANTED TO. BUT WE WERE DIRECTED BY PARKS. SURE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I AGREE WITH BARRY AND I GUESS I'LL ADD SOME CONTEXT THERE. THERE IS ACTUALLY QUITE A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT WALKS THROUGH THAT FIELD TODAY, FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST. THE SCHOOL KIDS FROM THE SCHOOL WALK THROUGH THERE, GO TO WINCO AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, PARK SAID, WELL, THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH HERE. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND DIRECT IT AND PUT SIDEWALKS WHERE THERE'S 
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FOOTPATHS, BASICALLY TO JUST KIND OF SOLIDIFY THAT AS AS THE FIRST ITEM? PERFECT. I APPRECIATE THAT ANSWER. THANK YOU. VERY HELPFUL. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR EITHER MR. BAIN OR FOR TANNER, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE STAFF REPORT. AND YOU ALSO KNOW THAT YOU CAN HAVE I WILL WE WILL NOT CLOSE THE HEARING UNTIL YOU HAVE PERFECT CLARITY ON EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT. SO MR. SANDER WILL GO TO YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND MAYBE I CAN ANSWER A COUPLE QUESTIONS AS WELL. THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT MOST OF THEM PRETTY WELL ANSWERED. I JUST WANTED TO GO BACK. JUST AS WAS STATED, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. THE REASON THAT THE TRAIL WAS CHOSEN FIRST. JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THIS AREA WAS LOCATED ON OUR HEALTHY COMMUNITY'S MASTER PLAN OF A PLACE THAT WAS DEFICIENT IN PARKS, PHYSICAL PARKS. AND SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER CAME TO THE CITY, THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA OF THE DOG PARK AND THESE AMENITIES BEING OFF SITE CAME FROM WAS TO PROGRAM THAT SPACE. SO THE TRAIL, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND CONNECTING OUR COMMUNITY TO THE TRAILS ARE ALWAYS RATED HIGHER IN THAT PLAN. AND THAT'S WHY THEY TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER OTHER AMENITIES. BUT IF THE CITY COUNCIL SO DESIRES AND WANTS TO DO IT DIFFERENTLY, THAT'S STAFF IS VERY FLEXIBLE WITH THAT. ALSO WITH THE PARKING, JUST TO ANSWER THAT, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT FROM THE AERIAL. BUT THIS ROAD, MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THAT CAN ACTUALLY ACCESS THAT AREA. 
          AND THAT WAS THE THINKING FROM STAFF OF WHY THE PARKING ACTUALLY WAS AN AMENITY. THE TERM THAT WE USE IN PLANNING IS, IS WE CALL IT TO ACTIVATE THIS SPACE. AND WE FELT LIKE PARKING WOULD ACTUALLY PULL THAT. AND THEN HAVING THAT PAVED WOULD ACTUALLY PULL PEOPLE DOWN BECAUSE IT DOES, LIKE YOU SAID, FEEL LIKE JUST A PRIVATE AREA. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THINKING ON THAT. THE APPLICANT ALREADY WENT THROUGH MOST OF THIS, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE ON THESE. JUST REALIZE THAT THE TRANSECT FOR IT IS GENERAL URBAN, WHICH THIS DOES FIT. I WANTED TO GO THE APPLICANT MENTIONED ABOUT TREES. I'LL BRING THIS UP IN REGARDS TO COMMENTS THAT WE HAD. YEAH. LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THIS. WENT THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THERE WAS A STAFF HAS HEARD FROM TWO RESIDENTS ON THIS PROJECT. THE FIRST WAS IN REGARDS TO AND I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BETTER PICTURE, BUT IT'S WHERE KELSEY COMES DOWN AND CONNECTS RIGHT HERE, THERE. WHEN WINCO WENT IN, THERE WAS A WALL THAT WAS BUILT ALONG THESE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, AND THE PURPOSE THERE WAS FOR A BUFFER FROM THAT FUTURE COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY COME TO. THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED THIS EVENING AT KELSEY, THAT THAT STREET IS TERMINATING. BUT THEY ONE REQUEST WAS THAT THERE BE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. SO THERE WAS A CUT IN THAT WALL THAT ALLOWS NOW PEDESTRIANS INSTEAD OF GOING ALL THE WAY AROUND TO WOODRUFF, THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY COME DOWN, KELSEY, AND BE ABLE TO ACCESS TO, TO WINCO. SO THAT WAS ONE THAT THE NEIGHBOR CAME AND SAID THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING ON THAT SIDEWALK NOW, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESOLVE THAT. THAT'S TRUE. PEOPLE ARE WALKING THROUGH WHERE THE CUT WAS MADE AND THERE IS A SIDEWALK. IT'S ALL PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO THERE'S JUST MORE FOOT TRAFFIC THAT THAT RESIDENT IS SEEING. THE OTHER ONE WAS A RESIDENT OVER OVER ON THE EASTERN ADJACENT PROPERTIES. HE WAS WANTING. HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BEING A TWO STORY RESIDENTIAL PRODUCT, AND HE HAD REQUESTED THAT THE WINDOWS BE I DON'T REMEMBER THE TERM OF I DON'T KNOW THE ARCHITECTURAL TERM FOR IT. THAT THIN, NARROW WINDOWS. AND THE DEVELOPER DID LOOK AT THAT COMPLAINT. THEY WENT BACK AND LOOKED. BUT THE BUILDING CODE REQUIRES THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A BEDROOM, THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE EGRESS WINDOWS. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE BIGGER WINDOWS. SO WHAT THE DEVELOPER DID IS THEY TOOK THE TREES. AND I JUST WANT TO GO BACK HERE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. IS HE HE HAS AGREED TO EXTEND THOSE TREES ALONG TO ADD EVEN FURTHER BUFFERING FOR A MENTION EVERGREENS IN THE STAFF REPORT. BUT IT'S JUST TREES. SO THEY'LL HAVE THE WALL AND THEY'LL HAVE THE TREE AS A BUFFER FOR THAT. SO ONE RESIDENT DID COME OUT AND EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT THAT 
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ELEMENT. JUST TO MAKE SURE I GET ALL MY NOTES. AND THE APPLICANT WAS CORRECT WHEN IN TERMS OF TO COUNCIL MEMBER RADFORD'S COMMENT THAT IF THE AMENITIES ARE NOT INSTALLED, WE HAVE LEARNED FROM OUR MISTAKES THAT CFO WOULD BE HELD UP AT THAT TIME. IT COMES IN AS PART OF THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. SO IT'LL BE PLUGGED IN THERE SO THEY'LL AGREE TO IT. BUT YEAH, WE WON'T SEE THOSE UNTIL THE AMENITIES ARE INSTALLED. AND IN THE PARK, THEY ARE BEING BUILT BY THE APPLICANT AND THE CITY WILL TAKE THEM OVER AND MAINTAIN THEM. PLANNING COMMISSION, AS I SAID, THEY DID REVIEW THIS. THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. THEY ENSURED THEY APPRECIATED THE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS TRYING TO DO. THEY DID VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO SEND A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU FOLKS. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF OR OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE. COUNCILMEMBER RADFORD SO I JUST HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONNECTION TO THE CANAL AND THE PATHWAY. DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGE THAT YOU CAN? YEAH, I'LL TRY TO GO BACK BECAUSE WE JUST BUILT. RIGHT. SO THE PATHWAY THAT IS JUST BUILT IS ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE CANAL. RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. WHERE CAN YOU GET TO THIS PARK IF YOU'RE WALKING ON THE PATHWAY TO THE TO THE WEST. GREAT QUESTION. SO THERE IS A BRIDGE AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT. I SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A BETTER AERIAL WHEN I DID THIS. SO THE CANAL TRAIL COMES UP ALONG BONNEVILLE DRIVE AND THERE IS A BRIDGE RIGHT HERE. OKAY. AND IF YOU LOOKED AT CURRENT GOOGLE EARTH PICTURES, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TRAIL, THAT FOOTPATH THAT'S ACTUALLY CUT THROUGH FROM STUDENTS COMING FROM CAMPUS THROUGH GOING TO COSTCO. SO THEY COME ACROSS THE BRIDGE, THERE'S THIS WHOLE SCIENCE OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING BIKE TRAILS, RIGHT? YEAH. ACTUAL FOOTPRINTS WHERE THEY WALK. YEAH. SO TELL ME, IS THERE A THIS PATHWAY IS ON THE WRONG SIDE. KIND OF. BUT WHERE DOES IT GO? AND IS ANYONE EVER GOING TO CONNECT TO IT, OR IS IT ONLY GOING TO BE THIS PATHWAY THROUGH THIS PARK. SO THE PATHWAY IT DOES CONNECT. SO IT CONNECTS TO THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND IT'S OFF PICTURE RIGHT HERE IT COMES ACROSS. IT GOES ACROSS. AND THEN IT COMES DOWN ALONG KIND OF THIS SHAPE AND THEN CUTS THROUGH TO WINCO IS HOW IT WORKS. OH SO IT'S NOT IT GOES DOWN TO THE DOCK. OH YEAH. DOWN TO THE DOG PARK. THANK YOU. I CUT IT OVER TOO QUICK. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO IT COMES ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION FOR THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SOUTHWARD OR NORTHWARD? BECAUSE IS THE PATH. 
          I KNOW THE PATH CROSSES THE CANAL AT SOME POINT. IT CONNECTS AT THE BRIDGE AT GARDEN AT GARFIELD STREET. I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, IS THIS PATHWAY CONNECTING TO ANY SIDEWALKS, LIKE, IS IT GOING TO BE A PATHWAY WITH WHERE THE SIDEWALK ENDS ON BOTH ENDS IN THIS PART? NO. IT'LL CONNECT. IT'LL IT'LL COME DOWN AND CONNECT TO THE PATHWAY TO THE DOG PARK THAT CONNECTS TO THE SIDEWALK, THAT THEN GOES DOWN SOUTH, THAT WOULD CONNECT TO WHAT IS IT PROBABLY SHOULD GET YOUR COMMENTS ON MIKE IF WE COULD. OR UNLESS YOU WANT TO REPEAT WHAT MR. PAYNE JUST SAID. YEAH. MR. BAYNES SAID, IS THAT IT'LL CONNECT FROM THE SIDEWALK HERE, COME DOWN AND THEN CONNECT RIGHT HERE TO THE RIGHT OF WAY. JUST JUST TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, BECAUSE THIS IS A LAND USE HEARING. IT NEEDS TO BE A TRANSCRIBABLE RECORD. SO WHERE WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO CHIME IN THROUGH TEXT MESSAGE AND FROM THE AUDIENCE, IF WE COULD DO IT A LITTLE MORE ORDERED. SO WE MAKE SURE TO RECORD EVERYBODY SO THAT THEIR COMMENTS COULD GET TRANSCRIBED IF NEEDED. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT WAS ALL MY QUESTIONS. OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SANTER, COUNCILOR FRANCIS, I'M SORT OF USED TO THINKING OF THE AMENITIES WHEN WE DO A PUD AS SERVING THE RESIDENTS, IN PART BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING REALLY EFFICIENT USE OF LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NOT HAVING OPEN SPACES IN YARDS, SO TO SPEAK. 
          SO. I GUESS I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS THAT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMENITIES GOING IN THERE. WE'RE DOING THREE, BUT I DON'T SEE HOW IT TOTALLY SERVES THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE IN THESE PLACES. LIKE WHAT ARE THEIR CHILDREN PLAY? THERE'S NO OFTENTIMES WHEN WE SEE THESE, ONE OF THE AMENITIES WILL BE SOME KIND OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT PUT IN BY THE DEVELOPER. BUT I DON'T SEE THAT COMING HERE. SO I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE AMENITIES RIGHT NOW BEING A LITTLE BIT VAGUE. AND THE ONE THING I LIKE ABOUT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS COUNCIL HAS SOME WAY TO WEIGH IN ON WHAT HAPPENS. 
          AND SO I'D RATHER SEE SOME THINGS FOR CHILDREN. THAN A PARKING AREA COUNTED AS AN 
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AMENITY. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT EXACTLY A QUESTION, BUT WHY DON'T WE HAVE THAT KIND OF AMENITY THAT WOULD SERVE THESE PEOPLE OR MAKE IT A QUESTION? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THIS. 
          YOU BRING UP A VERY GOOD POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS. THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT. WE HAVEN'T DONE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN THIS REGARD BEFORE. SO THIS IS PRECEDENT. THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THAT. YOU COULD SAY WITH CLOSE PROXIMITY THAT THIS PROBABLY WILL BE USED EXTENSIVELY BY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THERE'S ALSO A BLESSING, A BENEFIT TO IT AS WELL, IN THAT IT CAN BE UTILIZED BY MORE THAN JUST HAVING PRIVATE OWNERSHIP. AND SO THAT THAT WAS WHY STAFF WAS OKAY WITH ENTERTAINING THIS IDEA, BECAUSE WE JUST FELT LIKE IT HELPED THE AREA OVERALL AND NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE PUD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GIVES. IT GIVES YOU A GOOD THING THAT GIVES YOU OUR THINKING A LITTLE BIT. WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO WHERE THE OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE FELT LIKE THIS PARTNERSHIP REALLY WORKED AND WOULD GET US AMENITIES IN THAT SPACE THAT WAS ALREADY BASICALLY A GRASS FIELD AND WOULD ACTIVATE IT A LITTLE MORE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE TO THE EXCLUSION OF JUST THE PUD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT IT GIVES THINKING A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. WHAT STAFF WAS THINKING? WELL, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD IT, WOULD IT DESTROY THE WHOLE PLAN FOR THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IF COUNCIL WERE TO SAY, OKAY, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO ADD ANOTHER AMENITY THAT ACTUALLY IS SOMETHING WHERE CHILDREN CAN GO, SINCE THERE ARE NO PARK AREAS IN THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. AND THAT I, I WOULD PROBABLY DIRECT THAT TO THE APPLICANT OF THEIR THINKING ON HOW THEY WOULD ADDRESS. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT IN ORDER, NOT AT THIS TIME. 
          BUT ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU MIGHT BE, IS IT HAS IT BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT THESE THAT THIS PRODUCT, THIS HOUSING PRODUCT IS AIMED AT A PARTICULAR DEMOGRAPHIC WITH OR WITHOUT CHILDREN? NO. OKAY. WE JUST TAKE IN TERMS OF THAT. THAT'S WHERE THE MARKET STUDY IS DONE AND THE APPLICANT IS BETTER AT UNDERSTANDING THAT MARKET. BUT THEY THE UNITS DO HAVE BACKYARD. YES. YES THEY DO. VARYING SIZES. YEAH VERY INCISIVE. THAT'S PERFECT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SANTER. ALL RIGHT THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS MOVE ON TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOU OBVIOUSLY STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS MAYBE THAT MIGHT YET GO TO OUR SORRY APPLICANT. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, LET'S TURN TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO IS PLANNING TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS WITH THE COUNCIL ABOUT THIS. ALL RIGHT, A LITTLE BIT OF SILENCE. AND I SEE JUST BY LOOKING IN THE ROOM THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BIG CROWD OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE. SO WE'LL THEN MOVE ON TO. AND THIS IS WHERE I NEED HELP FROM. LEGAL TYPICALLY, MR. KIRKHAM, I'M PRETTY FLEXIBLE WITH THESE HEARINGS TO THE POINT WHERE I GIVE COUNCIL BROAD OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS. TECHNICALLY, AT THIS POINT AFTER TESTIMONY OR TIME FOR TESTIMONY, WE WOULD MOVE STRAIGHT TO REBUTTAL AND THEN BE DONE. BUT IS IT OKAY IF WE JUST GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH THE LOOSE QUESTIONING? DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? NO. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO CALL FOLKS BACK UP TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, THAT AGAIN, IT NEEDS TO BE TRANSCRIBABLE. SO IT CAN BE A LITTLE INFORMAL. BUT WE DO NEED TO PICK UP EVERYONE'S COMMENTS ON A MICROPHONE. OKAY. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, BEFORE WE GIVE THE LAST WORD TO THE APPLICANT, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND IF SO, ARE THEY FOR MR. BAYNE? ARE THEY FOR MR. MR. TANNER I DON'T KNOW. EXCUSE ME. TANNER, I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR LAST NAME. I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN PROPERLY. SO I BEEN CALLING YOU BY YOUR FIRST NAME, AND I APOLOGIZE. BUT IF YOUR QUESTIONS ARE FOR HIM OR EVEN FOR MR. TANNER, THAT SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS? AND IF SO, WHO ARE YOU? TO WHOM ARE YOU DIRECTING THEM? I'M JUST SUPER INTERESTED IN HOW DONNER BECAME THE NAME, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE A STREET OR. AND IT'S AN UNUSUAL. AND SO YOU ARE DIRECTING THAT? TO WHOM? YEAH, PROBABLY THE APPLICANT THAT'S ONLINE. OKAY. SO, TANNER, WOULD YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE NAME THAT WAS CHOSEN? SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A BIT OF A FUNNY STORY. I I'LL GO ON RECORD OFFICIAL RECORD SAYING THAT I VOTED FOR BLITZEN AND I GOT OUTVOTED. SO REINDEER, CARIBOU. THERE'S A CONNECTION. OH, OKAY. OKAY, 
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THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS, QUESTION FOR MR. BAYNE. 
          AND IT MAY BE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL ANSWER IT, TOO, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BAYNE. AND I HAVE NO IDEA IF THIS WOULD FLY WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL OR NOT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT MY QUESTION IS, ARE YOU IS IT POSSIBLE YOU COULD ADD AN AMENITY THAT WOULD SERVE CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN SOME OF THESE PLACES? SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT LIKE, SORRY, BARRY BANE ENGINEERING THE QUESTION FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WHY NOT? WHY NOT A AMENITY FOR KIDS? WHY NOT A PLAYGROUND? OKAY, I GUESS MY ANSWER WOULD BE WHERE DOES WHERE DOES IT STOP? I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE FIRST ONE AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATED BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK MAYOR WAS SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT KIND OF THE SAME THING, I DON'T KNOW. BUT COUNCILOR ZELL MEYER COMMENTED SOMETHING TO WELL, WHAT ABOUT LIKE DIFFERENT PEOPLE NEED DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          LIKE IF YOU SORRY TO USE IT AGAINST YOU, BUT DIFFERENT PEOPLE NEED OH NO, I STAND BY IT 100%. YES. YEAH. AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. LIKE WHEN I HEARD THAT I WAS LIKE PERFECT. LIKE IF, LET'S SAY WE, WE PUT A PLAYGROUND IN THERE. WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT ARE DIFFICULT? WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T PLAY PICKLEBALL AND DON'T HAVE KIDS THAT THAT WANT WANT WHAT? LIKE I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS SAY, WELL, WHY NOT THIS, WHY NOT THIS? WHY NOT THIS? AND WHEN DOES IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN DOES IT STOP? I THINK WE'VE AND I HAVE KIDS AND I DON'T I DON'T DISAGREE, I'M JUST SAYING THAT. I THINK THE DEVELOPER AND I THINK THAT WE COULD BE ON BOARD IF THERE'S A CHANGE THERE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK THAT THAT WILL WORK FOR PROVIDING WHAT'S REQUIRED, REQUIRED, PLUS ANOTHER AMENITY, BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE. RIGHT. AND SO I GUESS, ARE YOU SAYING ADDING ANOTHER ONE OR ARE YOU SAYING CHANGING ONE. NO. ADDING ONE. AND I'M ONLY SAYING THAT NO, I'M SORRY TO DELIBERATE AND I'LL DO THAT LATER. SO I JUST WONDERED WHAT YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT. AND I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S A DEVELOPER QUESTION IF, IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT OR NOT. MY STANCE ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF IT AND PROVIDING THIS IS THAT WE FEEL WE MEET AND ARE GIVING A GOOD TRADE FOR WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR VARIANCE. BUT IT IS A PUD WHERE WHERE THERE IS GIVE AND TAKE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S I GUESS MY I DON'T HAVE A GOOD ANSWER. KIND OF GAVE ME A POLITICIAN ANSWER. I'M SORRY, BUT ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCILOR FREEMAN OR FRANCIS, ARE YOU WANTING TO DIRECT THAT QUESTION TO TANNER AS WELL? YES. ALL RIGHT. TANNER, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTARY OR INSIGHT ON THAT? YEAH, AND I CAN SPEAK TO THIS, BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO HEAR FROM JUSTIN AS WELL. JUSTIN'S THE OTHER PRINCIPAL OF HAVEN, IDAHO. HE'S ONLINE, AND I KNOW HE HAS SOME PASSION THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS. JUST TO CHIME IN. YEAH, I AM. THANK YOU. TANNER. MY NAME IS JUSTIN RUTHENBECK. I PART ALSO PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. KEN AND I ARE BUSINESS PARTNERS. SO REALLY WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS WAS, WE APPROACHED PARKS AND WE ASKED PARKS, WHAT IS WHAT IS EFFICIENT AND WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENCY? ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS. AND THEY SAID, CLEARLY IT'S PICKLEBALL. WE NEED MORE SPACES SUCH AS THAT, AND WE WANT MORE SPACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN WALK AND ENCOUNTER PEOPLE AND HAVE MORE CONNECTIVITY. THAT WAS THE CHOICE TO PICKLEBALL INSTEAD OF SOME SORT OF A CHILD FOCUSED AMENITY IS ALSO BASED ON THE BUYERS THAT WE HAVE IN PHASE ONE. SO SORRY. DIVISION ONE. SO DIVISION ONE IS A TOTAL OF 29 HOMES TO THIS POINT. AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE HAS BOUGHT, NO ONE WHO HAS BOUGHT OR THOSE HOUSES HAS CHILDREN. THERE ARE, I THIN, MAYBE 1 OR 2 RENTERS THAT HAVE A KID, BUT I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. 
          SO I THINK IT WAS REALLY JUST BASED ON WHAT PEOPLE WANT. THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE, THEY DO HAVE DOGS, THEY DO HAVE A CERTAIN THEY WERE ATTRACTED TO THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY BECAUSE OF THE AMENITIES THAT WERE THERE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE ACTUAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE THERE. SO THAT'S WHY WE IN TALKING WITH PARKS, THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO GO WITH THAT. WE ARE NOT I WOULD SAY THIS WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO DESIGNING FOR OTHER AMENITIES. WE ARE VERY CONSCIOUS OF WHAT THE FINANCIAL PARTS OF THIS ARE. 
          EVERYTHING THAT WE PROMISE AHEAD OF TIME OBLIGATES US TO DO THINGS, AND THE ABILITY TO AFFORD TO DO THOSE THINGS DEPENDS ON HOW THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT GOES AHEAD. SO WE 
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DON'T WANT TO PROMISE MORE THAN WE CAN DELIVER BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF RISK ASSOCIATED WITH THE ACTIVITIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER, COUNSELOR. IS THAT SATISFACTORY? WELL, I MEAN, THE ANSWER IS YES. THE YES. THE INFORMATION. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBERS? BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE NEARING THE VERY END OF OUR HEARING. IF NOT. ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, THEN, THANK YOU. ALL THOSE OF YOU, TANNER, JUSTIN, MR. BAIN, MR. SANTER, FOR PARTICIPATING. AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE HEARING. AND WE WILL THEN INVITE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN DELIBERATION PRIOR TO A MOTION. I'M NOT SURE WHO'S MAKING THE MOTION TONIGHT, SO YOU'LL HAVE TO LET ME KNOW. OKAY. COUNSELOR BRADFORD WILL BE DOING THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES. SO IT'S THE TIME IS YOURS. COUNSELOR FRANCIS. WILL THE REST OF YOU TELL ME IF I'M OFF BASE? BUT I JUST THINK A PARKING LOT DOESN'T REALLY COUNT AS AN AMENITY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING HERE IN. AND A LOT IS BEING GIVEN UP. SINCE 25% OF THE LAND SHOULD BE PUBLIC OR OPEN SPACE, IT'S ONLY 16%. SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING IN THAT PARK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR MORE PEOPLE. BUT IF I'M OFF BASE, TELL ME AND. I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING A AREA PARK FOR MORE THAN JUST THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IT'S THE GREEN SPACE AVAILABLE IS MUCH BIGGER THAN THE 25%. I MEAN, THE TOTAL AREA OF THAT PARK IS, IS MUCH LARGER. AND SO JUST TO BE ABLE TO INVITE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, I CAN'T SAY LIKE, OH, NOW IT'S WORTH 50%, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT IN MY HEAD. BUT IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S WELL OVER 25% OF COMMON SPACE. SO I PERSONALLY LIKE IT AS A PUBLIC PARK, AND I'M FINE WITH THAT THIS WAY. AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE POINT THAT THAT WALKING PATH IS WHERE PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY WALKING THAT PART. I HADN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT. 
          THERE'S ALREADY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY A GAME TRAIL, BUT THERE'S ALREADY A TRAIL THERE AND I'M GLAD TO HAVE IT. FOLLOW THAT. FOLLOW. YEAH. SO. BUT TO ME, THAT JUST ADDS TO THE POINT, BECAUSE IF IT SERVES THE COMMUNITY AROUND, THEN THOSE ARE FAMILY HOMES. IS EVERYONE GOING TO PLAY PICKLEBALL OR COME AND SIT IN THE PARK? I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE, WELL, IT'S A SET OF PLAYS. IT'S A PUBLIC PARK. SO WE COULD ALWAYS DECIDE TO PUT A TOY IN THAT PARK IF WE FEEL LIKE, OH, LOOK HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE PLAYING AROUND HERE. BUT YOU WOULDN'T ASK IT OF THE DEVELOPER. NO, I THINK IT'S A PUBLIC PARK. AND THE AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE ALREADY PROVIDING FOR ME, THAT'S WHERE I. COUNCILOR LARSON, I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS TO AMENITIES, AM I CORRECT? AND THEN THIS IS THE. SO IF YOU WANT TO CALL THE PARKING LOT THE BONUS AMENITY THAT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO DO, THAT'S ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY, IN FAIRNESS, I CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BURTENSHAW. I THINK THAT'S A NICE MIX, AND I THINK THE OVERALL AVAILABLE GREEN SPACE IS UP OVER THE 25 WHEN YOU ADD THAT IN. SO I ALSO ISN'T IS THIS NOT WHERE THERE'S THE ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER. SO I'M NOT TOO SURE THE KIDS WANT TO HANG OUT TO THAT AS MUCH AS SOMEWHERE ELSE. I MEAN, PARENTS DON'T WANT TO EVEN HAVE THE BACKYARD POWER LINE SOMETIMES. THEY DON'T WANT THEIR KIDS AROUND THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE COULD PUT IN ANOTHER AMENITY, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH OUR PLAYGROUNDS AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE COULD ADD THEM. THE PARKING LOT IS HARDER FOR US TO GET DONE SOMETIMES, SO THAT I KIND OF LIKE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT HERE AND THAT IT'S OUR PARK. SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILORS. AND THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNSELOR FREEMAN. SO I ACTUALLY CONCUR WITH YOUR STATEMENT, COUNSELOR RADFORD. 
          AND I'LL KIND OF TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, WHICH IS THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, I LIVE I LIVE JUST A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM COMMUNITY PARK. I'VE GOT FOUR KIDS. I WOULDN'T SEND MY KIDS THROUGH ANYWHERE NEAR WENDKOS PARKING LOT. SO EVEN LIKE MY 10 OR 11 YEAR OLD, THAT WOULD BE COMPETENT TO WALK. SO EVEN THOUGH IT MAY NOT BE A DIRECT PATHWAY THROUGH, YOU'RE STILL INVITING THAT OPPORTUNITY. AND YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE MY FAVORITE THING. BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR ME, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE MARKETPLACE ENOUGH TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE THE DECISION AS TO WHAT, BASED UPON THEIR RESEARCH AND THEIR EXPERTISE AS 
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TO WHAT PEOPLE WANT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PUT SOMETHING IN. I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NOT ADVANTAGEOUS TO THEIR MARKET. AND I THINK UNLESS IT GOES TOTALLY OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF COMMUNITY STANDARDS, I'D PROBABLY LEAN TOWARD THE SIDE OF ALLOWING THEM TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY THINK IS MOST INTERESTING FOR THE OVERALL COMMUNITY THERE. I'LL ALSO NOTE ANECDOTALLY THAT AS SOMEONE WHO RUNS AN ANIMAL SHELTER, I CAN TELL YOU POINT BLANK THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE THEIR LOCATION SIMPLY BASED UPON THE ACCESSIBILITY OF DOG PARKS AND PETS. IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE COME IN SAYING THEY SWITCHED THEIR RENTAL AGENCY JUST FOR THAT ALONE. SO. AND I'LL SECOND WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. MICHELLE TAUGHT ME THIS, THAT IDAHO IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST DOG OWNERSHIP STATES IN THE COUNTRY, AND I. ANY CHANCE I GET TO TELL DEVELOPERS, PLEASE LET DOGS INTO APARTMENTS? 50% OF YOUR CUSTOMERS HAVE DOGS. AND IF WHAT OTHER INDUSTRY WERE, YOU'D SAY NO TO 50% CHARGE THE FEES YOU NEED TO GET IT BACK. BUT PEOPLE LOVE THEIR PETS AND WANT THEM TO BE WITH THEM. COUNCILOR FREEMAN I'M OKAY WITH THE VARIANCE. WITH THE LACK OF SPACE IN THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT THEY HAVE. AND I THINK PICKLEBALL PICKLEBALL COURTS IS A GREAT TRADE FOR THAT, I REALLY DO. 
          THOSE ARE DIFFICULT TO BUILD. THEY'RE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. I THINK IF THEY BUILD THEM, IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GREAT AMENITY OVER THERE. ON ANOTHER NOTE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT INFILL AND WALKABILITY AND THINGS. AND THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, I WAS LISTING THE THINGS THAT ARE NEAR THIS. THIS IS A GREAT WALKABLE AREA FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE. THERE'S A LIQUOR STORE, THERE'S AN AUTO PARTS STORE, THERE'S A DOLLAR STORE, THERE'S A COFFEE SHOP, THERE'S A BURGER PLACE, THERE'S A GROCERY STORE. I MEAN, YOU CAN GET YOUR HAIR CUT OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A WALKABLE CENTER. AND SO I'M VERY IN FAVOR OF IT AS A DENTIST. THERE'S THE GREATEST DENTIST EVER ON THAT SAME STREET AND ALSO A SCHOOL NEARBY THAT YOU CAN WALK YOUR KIDS TO, TO PLAY TO. THAT'S VERY MUCH IN WALKING DISTANCE, IN MY OPINION. I KNOW THAT I DON'T VOTE UNLESS THERE'S A TIE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SHY ABOUT SHARING MY THOUGHTS. AND ONE THOUGHT IS THAT I DO FEEL AS THOUGH WE CAN DEFER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION OR THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS WELL. 
          AND IN THEIR PROFESSIONAL ESTIMATION, THE PLAYGROUND WASN'T THE HIGHEST NEED. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A CONVERSATION THAT WE MAY WANT TO HAVE WITH THEM THERE. BUT GOING BACK TO COUNSELORS, THE MARKETPLACE, IF SOMEBODY TRULY NEEDS A PLACE FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO PLAY NEARBY, THEY PROBABLY WON'T BUY THIS CONDO. BUT IF THEY NOT A CONDO, THIS A UNIT IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT IF THEY DON'T NEED THAT, THEN THEY MIGHT SHOW UP HERE. SO I'M I'M OKAY WITH THE MARKETPLACE DICTATING SOME THINGS. BUT ANYWAY, YOU HAD YOU HAD KICKED OFF WITH A QUESTION COUNSELOR. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS QUESTIONS, THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO A MOTION? ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL REPORT. THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN YOUR MOTION. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR DONNER TOWNHOMES AS PRESENTED SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION WITH A SECOND CITY CLERK. WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO CONDUCT THAT VOTE FOR US. BURTONSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS A FREEMAN. YES. LARSEN. 
          YES. RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE NEED THE REASON STATEMENT. I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE REASON STATEMENT OF RELEVANT CRITERIA AND STANDARDS FOR THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR DONNER TOWNHOMES, AND GIVE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS. SECOND CITY CLERK, WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE. BURTONSHAW. YES. 
          DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS A. FREEMAN. YES. LARSEN. YES. RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. 
          VERY GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE TWO MORE DEPARTMENTS WITH BUSINESS BEFORE 
          [5.E.1) Impact Fee Advisory Committee recommendations for valuation methodology ]
THE CITY TONIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS MUNICIPAL SERVICES, AND THIS IS OUR DIRECTOR, PAM ALEXANDER, APPROACHING THE PODIUM TO TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU'LL RECALL, IN OUR EFFORT TO UPDATE OUR IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AND TO PROCEED WITH A NEW STUDY, WHICH IS REQUIRED AT REGULAR FIVE YEAR INTERVALS AT A MINIMUM OF A FIVE YEAR MINIMUM OR MAXIMUM, WHATEVER A FIVE YEAR INTERVAL. SO WE ARE EMBARKING UPON A NEW STUDY, AND THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF METHODOLOGY TO PUT INTO THAT STUDY DOCUMENT. AND SO THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS BEEN KICKING THIS AROUND FOR A FEW MEETINGS. AND THEY THEY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR US. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. I'M REALLY I'M REALLY PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. I KNOW THAT WE HAD A MEETING A 
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COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND WE PROVIDED SOME UPDATES TO THE CALENDAR. AND SO I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF UPDATE AFTER I DO THIS ITEM, BUT IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD PROCESS WITH OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THEY HAVE REALLY TAKEN A LOT OF THEIR TIME AND HAVE LOOKED AT DETAILED INFORMATION THAT ACTUALLY CAME FROM OUR CONSULTANT. SO THIS EVENING, THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE US FROM THE IMPACT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS THE FEE METHODOLOGY AND THE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE IS AN INTEREST TO RECOMMEND THAT THE RESIDENTIAL DEFINITION BE REVISED. INSTEAD OF DOING THE SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY CATEGORY. THERE IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO MOVE TOWARDS A DWELLING UNIT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND SO THE THOUGHT ON THAT IS IT REALLY DOES SIMPLIFY THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, THERE IS A PROPOSED DEFINITION FOR A DWELLING UNIT, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SLIDE. AND THEN ALSO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT A SQUARE FOOTAGE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE SHALL BE. THIS DWELLING UNIT. IT DOES HAVE CONSENSUS FROM THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD FROM A COUPLE OF OUR MEMBERS WAS THE ACTUALLY THE AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSES. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY WERE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN WHAT ADVICE HAD SHARED IN REGARDS TO THE TRANSITIONING TO SQUARE FOOTAGE AND BASING IT ON A DWELLING UNIT. THEY ALSO TALKED A NUMBER OF TIMES DURING OUR MEETINGS ABOUT WHAT IS UNFINISHED AND WHAT IS CONSIDERED FINISHED. AND SO AS AS YOU CAN SEE HERE UP ON THE SLIDE, THERE IS A DEFINITION THAT IT THAT IT DOES EXCLUDE. OR THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO EXCLUDE THE UNFINISHED BASEMENT AND THE GARAGES AS PART OF THE FINISHED SPACE. SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE NON RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SHARE. AS FAR AS THE RECOMMENDATIONS THERE. SPECIFICALLY REGARDS TO THE METHODOLOGY, AND IF I MAY JUST GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TIMELINE AND THE SCHEDULE. SO BASED ON THAT WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FEE METHODOLOGY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ON JUNE 2ND, WE WILL HAVE A COUNCIL WORK SESSION THAT WILL INCLUDE THE ACCEPTANCE REVIEW, DISCUSS OR MODIFY A DRAFT STUDY. THE ACTUAL DRAFT STUDY THAT WILL COME FROM THAT DRAFT STUDY WILL INCORPORATE THE RECOMMENDED RESIDENTIAL DEFINITIONS THAT I HAD DISCUSSED WITH YOU AND THE TRANSITION TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. NOW, IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN COLIN, OUR CONSULTANT, PRESENTED, HE HAD BOTH SLIDES TOGETHER. HE SAID, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY WITH SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY, AND THIS IS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE WITH THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE TRANSITION. TRANSITION. SO WE'LL HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. AND THEN ON JUNE 3RD THROUGH AUGUST 11TH, THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE EITHER AUGUST 14TH OR AUGUST 28TH DURING REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WE WILL ACTUALLY CONSIDER OR WE COULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER AND APPROVE AN IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE. AND SO WITH THAT I'D BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. SO COULD WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE? I DO I'M SORRY. THE SLIDE THAT IS DEFINING SPACE. IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE IT JUST A TINY BIT LARGER. BUT I DON'T KNOW. IF WE CAN'T. YOU CAN'T. YOU CAN ENLARGE CERTAIN THINGS, BUT MAYBE NOT AS WELL. ANYWAY, THE DEFINING LIVING. EXCUSE ME. FINISHED SPACE. I DO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS FOR AFFORDABILITY AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO TO ADD FEES OR COSTS TO A HOME CAN MAKE OR BREAK SOMEBODY'S BUDGET. IF THEY'RE TRYING TO BUY A PARTICULAR HOME. BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATION BEING MADE TO APPLY IT ONLY TO FINISHED BASE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT INCENTIVIZES THEN NOT FINISHING OUT A HOME. 
          AND THAT'S FINE, EXCEPT THERE'S LOGIC THAT MAY BE FINE, BUT THE LOGIC THAT SOME HAVE FOLLOWED IS, WELL, WHEN THEY GO TO FINISH IT, THEY'LL JUST APPLY FOR THE PERMIT AND PAY THE FEES THEN. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE THE OWNERS. AND MY THOUGHT IS THAT VERY I SEE LET ME GO BACK. AS A POLITICAL SCIENTIST, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU LEARN IS THAT ONE DEFINITION OF A BAD LAW IS ONE THAT CAN'T BE ENFORCED. IF WE ESTABLISH OR GO WITH THIS, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT WE 
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WILL SEE PEOPLE FINISHING THEIR OWN. THE INTERIORS, THE UNFINISHED PARTS OF THEIR HOMES ON THEIR OWN, NOT APPLYING FOR THE PERMITS AND NOT PAYING THE FEES. AND SO WE'RE INCENTIVIZING, IN A WAY, A BACK DOOR APPROACH. AND I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT WITH WIDE EYES OR CLEAR EYED UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MAY BE WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE FINISHING OUT THEIR OWN HOMES, BECAUSE THERE ARE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, THAT THEY MAY NOT BE TOO EXCITED ABOUT PAYING, WE RUN THE RISK OF THEM NOT HAVING THOSE INSPECTIONS. AND THEN THERE IS A SAFETY RISK. I DON'T KNOW HOW GREAT IT IS. IT WILL VARY DEPENDING ON THE SKILLS OF THE HOMEOWNER, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. IT ALSO DOES IMPACT THE FEE THAT COMES IN THE DOOR. AND SO WE MAY END UP WITH STILL THE SAME WEAR AND TEAR ON CITY STREETS AND, YOU KNOW, HEADS, NUMBERS OF NEW RESIDENTS THAT ARE USING PARKS AND USING PUBLIC AMENITIES THAT THIS PAYS FOR, THAT THE FEES PAY FOR WITHOUT NECESSARILY RECOUPING ALL OF THE FEES FOR THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE YOU RECEIVE OR EXCUSE ME, ACCEPT A RECOMMENDATION DIRECTLY THAT YOU KICK IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT. AND SO WITH THAT, DOES THIS MEAN THAT IF THE HEATING AND COOLING DO IMPACT THAT PART OF THE HOME THAT IT IS CONSIDERED FINISHED? SO LET'S SAY THE BASEMENT IS COOLED AND HEATED, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE DRYWALL. IS IT CONSIDERED FINISHED OR HOW DOES THIS HOW DO THESE FOUR BULLET POINTS WORK TOGETHER? SO I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST THREE BULLET POINTS. IN ORDER TO HAVE THE SPACE BE CONSIDERED FINISHED, YOU MUST MEET ALL THREE OF THOSE CRITERIA FIRST THAT THE SPACE IS CLIMATE CONTROLLED, SECOND, THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE FROM OTHER FINISHED AREAS, AND THIRD, THAT THE WALLS AND CEILINGS ARE COMPLETED WITH DRYWALL. TYPICALLY IT'S DRYWALL, BUT THERE'S SOME OTHER LANGUAGE THERE THAT MIGHT INCLUDE OTHER FINISHING KINDS OF THINGS TO DO. 
          AND THEN THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WANTED TO MAKE IT EXPLICIT THAT GARAGES SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED. AND I THINK WE'LL FINE TUNE THIS TO ME, THE THAT EXCLUDES UNFINISHED BASEMENTS, KIND OF A. SUPERFLUOUS LANGUAGE THERE BECAUSE UNFINISHED BASEMENT IS UNFINISHED SPACE. IT WON'T BE COUNTED ANYWAY. BUT I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS HAD A VERY STRONG OPINION THAT BASEMENTS ARE UNFINISHED AND STAY UNFINISHED TYPICALLY, AND THAT THEY DON'T PROVIDE AN IMPACT. CLARIFY. SO WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS JUST JUST TO COMMENT ON YOUR COMMENTS THAT I JUST WANT TO KICK IT ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS. AND I YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT, THIS IS GOING TO BE REVISITED EVERY FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? SO IF IT DOES BECOME A PROBLEM, THEN WE CAN AND WE CAN ALLEVIATE THAT AT THAT TIME. AND I, I WOULD SAY AS WELL THAT I THINK THAT TONIGHT WE'RE JUST ACCEPTING THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THAT THIS COULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION ONCE WE GET THE STUDY, WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO ACCEPT THIS. I KNOW THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICE VEHICLES. THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT STILL TO ADDRESS EVEN WITHIN OUR ORDINANCE. SO THIS THOSE EXCLUSIONS MIGHT BE PART OF THAT OVERALL DISCUSSION. AND TONIGHT'S JUST THE METHODOLOGY WHETHER TO GO FROM SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY TO SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THEN I THINK THOSE CAN BE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE BROADER CONVERSATION. THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF WE WANT I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT, GIVE SUFFICIENT DIRECTION TO TISCHLER BICE, TO OUR CONSULTANT, FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO PRODUCE A STUDY THAT WAS PRETTY DARN CLOSE TO CAPTURING THE WAY THE FEE WOULD BE COLLECTED OR CALCULATED. WILL THE FINE TUNING, WHAT WOULD THESE BULLET POINTS BE CONSIDERED FINE TUNING, OR WOULD THESE BULLET POINTS BE IN VERY SUPER KEY TO THE WAY THAT THE REPORT IS DRAFTED? I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SO YEAH, THESE THESE ITEMS RIGHT HERE AREN'T GOING TO HOLD UP A DRAFT STUDY BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, HE OUR CONSULTANT HAS A CALCULATED BOTH WAYS. HE HAS A CALCULATED WITH SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY KEEPING THAT CATEGORY. AND THEN 
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HE ALSO HAS TO CALCULATE IT WITH JUST STRAIGHT SQUARE FOOTAGE. IT'S REALLY UP TO THE CITY TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO ACCEPT SOME OF THIS TERMINOLOGY AND DEFINITION, WHICH WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE. PERFECT. OKAY. SO WITH THESE WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IN MIND, THEN MAYBE TONIGHT, LIKE COUNCIL PRESIDENT SAID, IT WOULD JUST BE APPROPRIATE TO EITHER DECIDE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO WITH SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY OR WITH SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND THAT WOULD GIVE SUFFICIENT DIRECTION, OFFICIAL ADVICE, AND THEN THE REST CAN BE DEBATED GOING FORWARD. BUT COUNCILOR FREEMAN. YES, FRANCIS, I THINK A QUESTION FOR LEGAL, BECAUSE I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MAYOR, THE CLOCK THAT'S IN MY MIND GOING FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT WE ARE JUST RECEIVING, WHICH WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO. ANYTHING WE DECIDE ULTIMATELY. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU RECEIVE YOU'RE RECEIVING THEIR IMPACT. THE IMPACT FEE COMMITTEE'S ADVICE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY OBJECT TO. AND PAM, YOU CAN CORRECT ME, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY OBJECTED TO THE METHODOLOGY PROVIDED THAT THE IF RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE ASSESSED BY SQUARE FOOTAGE, THAT THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS DO NOT INCLUDE IMPACTS FROM UNFINISHED BASEMENTS AND GARAGES. SO THAT WAS THEIR I BELIEVE I HOPE I'M I HOPE I'M ARTICULATING THAT ACCURATELY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WAS THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND THAT IS THAT IS CORRECT. I WILL SAY THAT THE INTENT OF THE MEMO I, I WANT I HAD ASSUMED THAT THE MEMO WAS HAVING YOU CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATION, WHETHER YOU WERE GOING TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION OR NOT, BECAUSE TISCHLER BICE NEEDS TO HAVE GUIDANCE TO PREPARE SOMETHING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON JUNE 2ND. OTHERWISE, WE'RE STILL WITH THE STUDY THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ACCESS TO, THE ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED A MONTH AGO. SO I WAS HOPING AND I DID NOT CATCH THE WORDING THAT SAID RECEIVE. AND SO I GUESS WE'RE LIMITED TO JUST RECEIVING IT. SO WE'RE DONE. WE RECEIVED IT. AND SO I GUESS NOW WE CAN'T GIVE GUIDANCE. BUT I WAS REALLY HOPING THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE GUIDANCE IN OUR ACTIONS TONIGHT. SO I'M FEELING MORE THAN A LITTLE SHEEPISH ABOUT MISSING THAT ON THE AGENDA. I THINK WE CAN. YEAH, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE IN THE ACTION ITEM THAT'S BEEN ARTICULATED IN THE AGENDA. IT DOES SAY THAT YOU CAN TAKE OTHER ACTION THAT'S DEEMED APPROPRIATE. SO IF YOU WANT TO GIVE STAFF SOME DIRECTION, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND LEGAL TO GIVE SOME ADVICE BASED OFF OF THE WHAT YOU'VE NOTIFIED THE PUBLIC THAT YOU WOULD DO TODAY. 
          I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. OKAY. WHAT DID YOU. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT HERE IS THIS HAS BEEN EXCITING TO ME TO KIND OF DIG INTO THIS, BECAUSE I HAD SOMEONE APPROACH ME RECENTLY AND SAID, WHY ARE YOU GUYS INCENTIVIZING BUILDING APARTMENTS? AND I SAID, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT HASN'T BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE NECESSARILY WANT, RIGHT? AND WE GET ASKED ABOUT IT KIND OF CONSISTENTLY, CONSISTENTLY. WHY ARE YOU BUILDING SO MANY APARTMENTS IN THE CITY? AND LIKE, WE DON'T OWN ANY PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANY APARTMENTS. BUT THAT COMMENT THAT WE WERE INCENTIVIZING IT BECAUSE OF THE LOWER FEE WAS INTERESTING TO ME. AND SO I REALLY STARTED TO LOOK INTO THIS. AND ONE INTERESTING IMPACT THAT I SEE IN SOME OF THE STUDIES IS THAT BY BUILDING BY SQUARE FOOT, BY HAVING IMPACT FEES, BY SQUARE FOOTAGE, YOU DO START TO SEE SOME SMALLER DEVELOPED HOMES, WHICH DID HAVE AN IMPACT ACROSS THE HOUSING STOCK TO LOWER PRICES, WHICH IS KIND OF A FASCINATING THING THAT I THINK WE SHOULD HIGHLIGHT AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE VERY MANY LEVERS TO HELP WITH THE PRICES OF HOMES. AND SO IF SO, I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING TO, TO, TO SEE ONE QUESTION I HAVE BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR, THE UNFINISHED, UNFINISHED BASEMENT IS SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE TO I THINK IT'S AN IMPLEMENTATION QUESTION, AND THERE WILL BE SO MUCH THAT GOES ON THERE THAT WE CAN KIND OF WORK THROUGH THAT. BUT CAN CAN PAM OR LEGAL? I DON'T KNOW WHO, BUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE TIME. SO YOU CAN TELL ME, MAYBE NOT IF THIS ISN'T THE PLACE, BUT I RECALL THERE WAS SAYER PROPERTY WHEN WE REALLY WERE LOOKING AT INVENTORY VERSUS RETAIL SPACE, AND SQUARE FOOTAGE SEEMED LIKE MAYBE A SOLUTION TO THAT. BUT HERE IT SAYS NO RECOMMENDATION. LIKE, SO WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND HOW WAS THAT THOUGHT THROUGH ON THE COMMITTEE? SURE. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ASSESSING THAT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE SO THAT THAT'S WHAT I WONDERED IF THAT'S. BUT THE ISSUE THAT HAPPENED WITH THE FEE IS HIGHER OR NOT. SO THERE THERE ARE FOUR NON RESIDENTIAL IMPACT FEES. THERE'S ONE FOR 
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INDUSTRIAL USES. THERE'S ONE FOR INSTITUTIONAL USES. THERE'S ONE FOR RETAIL USES AND THERE'S ONE FOR INDUSTRIAL USES. THOSE HAVE DIFFERENT RATES BECAUSE THE IMPACTS ONTO THE CITY SYSTEMS ARE DIFFERENT. SO RETAIL GENERALLY IS THE HIGHEST BECAUSE IT GENERATES MORE TRIPS AND MORE POLICE VISITS. INDUSTRIAL HAS LOWER ONE BECAUSE THEY THEY TRIGGER FEWER TRIPS AND FEWER POLICE VISITS. SO THAT SAYER ISSUE IS THAT IN OUR IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE, IT STATES THAT IF THERE ARE A MIX OF USES ON A PROJECT THAT THE CITY CAN SPLIT UP THE IMPACTS BASED OFF OF THE MIX OF USES. AND SO WHAT SAYER CAME IN AND ARGUED IS THAT THEY HAD A MIX OF USES AT THEIR FACILITY, AND COUNCIL UPHELD THAT AND AGREED WITH THEM THAT THEY DID HAVE A MIX OF USES AND ASSESS THEIR IMPACT FEE BASED OFF OF THE MIX OF USES INSTEAD OF AS AN ENTIRE WHOLE AS ONE USE. I ASK FOR JUST A CLARIFICATION. SO THE RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDS THAT WE KEEP THAT PART THAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED AS YOU DESCRIBED IT. IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THAT OCCURRED. THE IMPACT FEE COMMITTEE DID NOT RECOMMEND CHANGING ANY OF THE LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS FOR THOSE NONRESIDENTIAL FEES. I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION TO THAT. JUST KIND OF THROW IT OUT THERE BECAUSE I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYTHING YOU HAD TO SAY, EXCEPT FOR THAT, I THINK RETAIL USED TO BE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPACT. BUT NOW I WOULD ARGUE IF AN AMAZON WAREHOUSE CAME IN AND WE'VE SEEN WHAT THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE COUNTY, THEY'RE OVERWHELMING THE ROADS THERE. I MEAN IT IF YOU HAVE DELIVERY WAREHOUSE SERVICES OR RESTAURANTS THAT ARE DOING DELIVERY, THEN I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TOO. THAT MIGHT NOT BE THAT RETAIL IS THE HIGHEST USE IN OUR SOME SECTORS. IT'S JUST INTERESTING THERE. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THERE IS AN AVENUE UNDER THE IMPACT FEE CODE TO ASSESS AN INDIVIDUALIZED IMPACT FEE FOR A USE THAT IS UNUSUAL. YEAH. AND THEY CAN GO THEY CAN PAY FOR IT RIGHT. THEY CAN PAY FOR IT. AND SO IF AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THE AMAZON WOULDN'T BE CLASSIFIED AS RETAIL BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING. YEAH THAT'S INTERESTING. OKAY. SO LOTS OF CONVERSATION. COUNCILOR RADFORD, DID YOU SAY YOU HAD A MOTION? I HAVE A MOTION. I WOULD MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. I WOULD DIRECT TISCHLER BICE TO PREPARE THE IMPACT FEE STUDY BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE METHODOLOGY. AND I WOULD ASK DIRECTOR ALEXANDER TO DISTRIBUTE THE STUDY TO THE COUNCIL AS SOON AS SHE RECEIVES IT FROM TISCHLER VICE. SECOND, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN HERE, CORRECT? YOU DELIBERATELY CHANGED IT. I DELIBERATELY CHANGED IT. SO THE SO THAT. SO THAT WE CAN GET THE STUDY INTO OUR HANDS WITH SQUARE FOOTAGE. SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THE METHODOLOGY AS RECOMMENDED BY THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO DID WE GET A SECOND? YES, WE HAD A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR RADFORD. SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION? I THINK I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. I WILL GRANT YOU THAT PRIVILEGE. AND THAT IS I THINK I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS. BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT THE ONE THING THAT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT, I THINK, IS IT'S EQUITABLE IN THE WAY OF THE LARGER BUILDING BUILD, THE MORE YOUR IMPACT BE. IS AM I CORRECT? JUST ABOUT HOUSING? YES, 5000FT■!S. I PAY MORE IMPACT FEE THAN SOMEBODY BUILDS A TINY HOUSE IN THE IN THE NUMBERED STREETS. IS THAT CORRECT? SORT OF. IN MY OWN MIND, IT'S A TRADE OFF TO THE CONCERNS THE MAYOR EXPRESSED. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN ABOUT BASEMENTS, BUT TO ME IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE EQUITABLE TO DO IT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE, BECAUSE THE BIGGER THE HOUSE, THE BIGGER THE IMPACT BE. SO IF THAT'S WHERE YOUR MOTION IS HEADED, THAT IS THAT IS THE MOTION THAT THEY RECOMMENDED USING SQUARE FOOTAGE INSTEAD OF SINGLE FAMILY MULTIFAMILY. AND YEAH, I GUESS I'M EXPLAINING WHY I'M GOING TO VOTE. YES. OKAY. WELL, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY RECOMMENDED FINISHED SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE ARE SAYING SQUARE FOOTAGE RIGHT NOW. WE ARE SAYING LEAVING THE QUESTION OF FINISHED ON WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF FINISHED. WE'RE LEAVING FOR LATER, AS IN THE JUNE 3RD TO AUGUST 11TH ISH, THAT THAT'S NOT A HARD AND FAST TIMEFRAME, JUST SO YOU KNOW. BUT THAT THAT IS THE STUDY PERIOD THAT WE'VE MAPPED OUT FOR NOW. IT MAY TAKE LONGER, BUT THAT'S THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED BY YOU. 
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YES. OKAY. I SHOULD JUST MAKE ONE MORE POINT THAT TISCHLER BUYSSE KIND OF TOLD US THAT ULTIMATELY THESE THINGS DON'T CHANGE OUR REVENUES THAT LARGE. IT DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT AS AS THE PUBLIC MIGHT THINK THAT IT WAS, THAT THESE KIND OF EQUAL OUT OVER THE DIFFERENT SIZES. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMPELLING AS WELL, THAT WE DIDN'T LOSE A LOT OF REVENUE BY GOING THIS WAY EITHER. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I THINK CITY CLERK, WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE. BURTONSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS A FREEMAN. YES. LARSEN. YES. RADFORD. AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND DIRECTOR ALEXANDER, IN ADDITION TO THE STUDY, ONCE DIGITAL DEVICE IS READY, THE DISTRIBUTING THAT I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE REALLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE COUNCIL TO RECEIVE THE MINUTES FROM THE IMPACT FEE ADVISORY MEETING. I KNOW YOU HAVE CHRISTINA HANSON TAKING THOSE MINUTES. SHE'S OUTSTANDING. SO I EXPECT THAT THE MINUTES ARE GOING TO BE GOOD. AND THAT WOULD HELP THE COUNCIL TO GET SOME CONTEXT THAT WILL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND ANY COMMENTS I'VE MADE TONIGHT IN TERMS OF EXPLAINING THE RECOMMENDATION AND WHAT THEY WERE THINKING AND CONSIDERING. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. 
          ACTUALLY, OUR CITY CLERK AND I ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A VARIETY OF MINUTES THAT WE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND RECORD. AND THEN WE DO HAVE A FINAL LIKE A DRAFT, IF YOU WILL, OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE AS WELL. TERRIFIC. I THINK THAT WILL HELP. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR JUNE 2ND WORK SESSION PACKET, IT WILL BE BECAUSE IT WILL HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED PRIOR TO JUNE 2ND. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE CONSIDERING ON JUNE 2ND IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE READY TO MOVE WITH THAT DRAFT STUDY. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL 
          [5.F.1) Ordinance - Amending Title 4 and Title 8 of the City Code to update and clarify City regulations on temporary event alcohol permitting.]
MEMBERS. I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION. WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM FOR YOU TONIGHT. FORTUNATELY, A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN WORKSHOPPED ALREADY AT A WORK SESSION. IN FACT, THIS PAST MONDAY, COUNCIL MEMBERS DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK A GREAT MANY QUESTIONS AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S ALCOHOL ORDINANCE. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHO'S HERE WITH. WHAT YOUR PRECISE THINKING, YOUR BRAIN THAT UNDERSTANDS ALL THINGS ALCOHOL ORDINANCE. YEAH. SHARE WITH US. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LITTLE BOOZE ON THE BRAIN, I GUESS FOR THE FOR THE SAKE OF THE HOUR, I'LL BE BRIEF. THE CITY REGULATES THE DISPENSING AND SELLING OF ALCOHOL WITHIN CITY LIMITS. WE DO THAT BROADLY IN TWO WAYS. ONE IS THE LICENSING OF ALCOHOL BUSINESSES. SO THESE ARE RESTAURANTS AND CONVENIENCE STORES AND GROCERY STORES AND BARS THAT SELL ALCOHOL FOR CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE THAT HOME AND CONSUME IN THEIR HOMES. THE OTHER WAY. THE CITY REGULATES ALCOHOL IN THE TOWN IS FOR TEMPORARY EVENTS THAT WANT TO HAVE AN EVENT WITH ALCOHOL, AS NOT AT A LICENSED PREMISE. AT AN ALCOHOL BUSINESS, THEY CAN APPLY FOR WHAT'S CALLED A PERMIT. AND WE HAVE TWO PERMITS. WE HAVE A CATERING PERMIT AND WE HAVE A CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT. AND THE ORDINANCE THAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING TONIGHT MAKES SOME CHANGES AND CLARIFICATIONS TO THE PERMITTING PROCESS TO CLARIFY THAT IF YOU ARE APPLYING FOR A PERMIT THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A CHANGE IN USE OF YOUR PROPERTY, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONFUSION ON WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO HAVE, LET'S SAY, A WEDDING AT AN EVENT SITE OR WHETHER THE EVENT CENTER HAD TO CHANGE THEIR USE CLASSIFICATION UNDER THE ZONING CODE, BUILDING CODE, AND FIRE CODE. SO THIS WOULD CLARIFY THAT THAT DOES NOT OCCUR. BUT IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE THEIR USE AND OPEN A PERMANENT ALCOHOL BUSINESS, THAT MIGHT TRIGGER A CHANGE OF USE LICENSE THAT REMOVES THE VARIANCE PROCEDURES FOR THOSE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT HOLD A SPECIAL EVENT WITHIN 300FT OF A SCHOOL, OR A HOUSE OF WORSHIP. SO THE COUNCIL RECENTLY TOOK UP A VARIANCE FOR THE ALIVE AFTER FIVE, AND IT WAS DISCUSSED WHY WE WERE DOING THAT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE STATE CODE PROHIBITS A ALCOHOL BUSINESS FROM OBTAINING A LICENSE WITHOUT A VARIANCE WITH 300FT OF A SCHOOL OR A HOUSE OF WORSHIP. OUR ORDINANCE HAS GONE A STEP FURTHER AND REQUIRED A VARIANCE FOR A PERMIT FOR A TEMPORARY EVENT. SO WITH THIS CHANGE, THIS WOULD ALIGN US EXACTLY WITH WHAT STATE CODE REQUIRES, AND WE WOULD NOT BE GOING FURTHER THAN STATE CODE ANYMORE. IT ALSO RECONCILES THE HOURS IN WHICH ALCOHOL MIGHT BE SERVED DURING A SPECIAL EVENT IN A CITY PARK. RIGHT NOW, THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCY BETWEEN A CHARITABLE 
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EVENT PERMIT AND THE HOURS THAT COUNCIL PERMITS ALCOHOL TO BE SERVED IN CERTAIN CITY PARKS. IF YOU GET A WHAT'S CALLED A PERMITTED EVENT, TO HOLD THAT PARTY ON CITY PROPERTY. SO THAT JUST REMOVES THE DISCREPANCY AND MAKES IT CLEAR THAT THE HOURS THAT HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED IN THE CITY'S PERMITTED EVENT CHAPTER ARE THE ONES THAT FOLKS WILL NEED TO FOLLOW. IT WILL ALSO EXTEND THE AREA IN WHICH A PERMITTED EVENT MAY BE HELD AT THE RIVERWALK PAVILION OVER HERE ON THE RIVER BELT, FROM 150FT TO 300FT, PROVIDED THAT IT DOESN'T ENCROACH INTO THE ROAD OR THE RIVERWALK PATH. AND WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION AT THE WORK SESSION ABOUT THAT. THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE LAST THING THAT THE CHANGES WILL DO IS IT WILL REMOVE THE 1250 FOOT SQUARE FOOT LIMIT ON A DISPENSING AREA FOR A CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT. THERE HAS BEEN A LONG STANDING RULE THAT IF YOU GET A CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALCOHOL SERVED OUTDOORS, THAT YOU'RE LIMITED TO 1250FT■!S FOR YOUR DISPENSING AREA. AND YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, THAT IS A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER. IT WASN'T THAT THE CITY ARRIVED AT THAT NUMBER. WELL, THIS IS AN EXCEPTION THAT WE WROTE PRIMARILY FOR LIVE AFTER FIVE, WHEN IT USED TO BE HELD AT CITY TOWN PLAZA IN DOWNTOWN. AND I BELIEVE IF YOU GO AND MEASURE THAT PLAZA, YOU WILL FIND THAT IT IS 1250FT■S. O THIS REMOVES THAT LIMITATION, NOT JUST FOR CIVIC PLAZA, BUT FOR ALL AREAS THAT WOULD SEEK TO HAVE AN OUTDOOR EVENT ON THROUGH A CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT, YOU WILL STILL NEED TO DESIGNATE YOUR SERVING AREA. YOU WILL STILL NEED TO IDENTIFY WHERE THAT SERVING AREA ENDS. AND ONCE YOU GO BEYOND THE BOUNDARY OF THAT SERVING AREA, YOU WILL THEN BECOME IN VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S OPEN CONTAINER ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT THAT WILL FREE THE COMMUNITY UP TO DO SOME THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN CONSTRAINED ON A LITTLE BIT, WHILE MAINTAINING THE EXPECTATION THAT PEOPLE CAN'T JUST WALK AROUND TOWN WITH A DRINK. I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCILOR LARSEN. YES, MAYOR. THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ON MONDAY, AND I WASN'T HERE, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO WE'RE CHANGING THE EVENT, PERMITTING AND EXCLUDING THE MODIFYING HOUSES OF WORSHIP WITHIN 300FT ON EVENTS. IS THAT RIGHT? SO IN OUR CODE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT, A TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT, AND IT'S WITH, WITH WITHIN 300FT OF A HOUSE OF WORSHIP OR A SCHOOL, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300FT ABOUT THE HEARING THAT THE COUNCIL WILL HELD ON A VARIANCE, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THAT VARIANCE. 
          AND. THE LAST ONE THAT WE HAD, WE ONLY HAD FOLKS THAT CAME IN FAVOR. NOBODY FROM THE OTHER NOTICE PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE HOUSES OF WORSHIP, CAME TO COMMENT ON IT. I THINK YOU CAN TAKE THAT AS A NO OBJECTION. AND THE QUESTION WAS RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER RADFORD ON WHY IT WAS THAT WE WERE REQUIRING THE HEARING IN THE FIRST PLACE. IT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE COUNCIL AT ONE POINT DECIDED THAT IT WOULD BE REQUIRED. IT IS NOT REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW, ALTHOUGH IF YOU WERE GOING TO OPEN A PERMANENT ALCOHOL BUSINESS, LIKE A RESTAURANT OR A BAR, AND YOU WERE WITHIN THE 300FT, YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED IN STATE LAW TO HAVE A HEARING IF YOU WANTED A VARIANCE. THANK YOU. OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY. I TURN ON MY MIC TO MAKE. OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. KIRKHAM. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE MOTION, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY DELIBERATION THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ON THIS? JUST ONE COMMENT. I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERYONE THAT WORKED ON THIS AND I KNOW THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM THAT WAS KIND OF EMERGING THAT WE WOULD HEAR ABOUT OFTEN, AND KIND OF HAVING A CAN DO ATTITUDE AROUND FINDING A SOLUTION. SO I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I DO THINK PERMITS AS OPPOSED TO PERMANENT LICENSE IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION. AND, AND CLARIFIES SOMETHING THAT WAS CONFUSING TO EVERYONE FOR A TIME. WELL, I WILL JUST ALSO SAY THAT I HAD SOME EARLY MENTORING FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WERE HERE WHEN THE CITY BARELY STARTED TO CRACK OPEN ITS ALCOHOL PERMITTING, AND ALLOWING IT TO BE SERVED AND SOLD IN PUBLIC SPACES. AND I THINK THAT THE FACT THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THIS EVOLUTION AND NOT FEEL 
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ANXIOUS ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE OF RESPONSIBLE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE EXCHANGE CLUB THAT HAVE SHOWN AND DEMONSTRATED THAT RESPONSIBLE USE IS POSSIBLE, AND SOME REALLY GOOD CHARITABLE OUTCOMES ARE THE RESULT OF SOMETHING, AN EVENT LIKE ALIVE AFTER FIVE. AND SO WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE THAT WE'VE HAD RESPONSIBLE USE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE COUNCIL IS ABLE TO MOVE IN A DIRECTION THAT ALLOWS A LITTLE MORE FREEDOM. SO I HOPE THAT CONTINUES. AND SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I WOULD MOVE THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS TO TITLE FOUR AND TITLE EIGHT OF THE CITY CODE UNDER SUSPENSION OF THE RULES REQUIRING THREE COMPLETE AND SEPARATE READINGS AND REQUESTS THAT IT BE READ BY TITLE AND PUBLISHED BY SUMMARY. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE SECOND FROM FREEMAN AND SECOND FROM FRANCIS. 
          SO I'LL LET THE CITY CLERK OH, RAPPER OKAY. LET YOU TOSS THE COIN. YOU WERE JUST GRINNING. 
          COUNCILOR FREEMAN WAS GRINNING. AND SO WE THOUGHT, WHO WAS IT? FRANCIS. AND IT WAS PRETTY TIGHT. WE WERE KIND OF TIGHT FOR STEREO. FLIP A COIN. GOT IT. I HEARD I WOULD HAVE BET MONEY IT WAS FREEMAN. I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS HIM. ALL RIGHT, SO WE DO HAVE THAT SECOND, AND WE'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL. VOTE, PLEASE, BRADFORD. I LARSON. YES. 
          FREEMAN. YES. FRANCIS. HI. DINGMAN. YES. BURTONSHAW. YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. AS THIS IS AN ORDINANCE, WE WOULD NEED TO READ IT BY TITLE AND ALSO PUBLISH IT IN THE PAPER. 
          BUT FOR NOW, WE'LL HEAR THE READING. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, IDAHO, A MUNICIPAL CORPORATION OF THE STATE OF IDAHO, AMENDING TITLE FOUR, CHAPTERS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR, AND TITLE EIGHT, CHAPTER THREE, SECTION FIVE RECONCILING DISCREPANCIES ON THE HOURS ALCOHOL MAY BE SERVED BETWEEN THE CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT AND THE PERMITTED EVENT IN CITY PARKS. CLARIFYING THE SIGNING AND BARRIER REQUIREMENTS FOR CONSUMPTION AREAS FOR A CHARITABLE EVENT ALCOHOL PERMIT, AND CLARIFYING THAT A TEMPORARY EVENT ALCOHOL PERMIT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A CHANGE IN USE UNDER THE CITY'S FIRE BUILDING OR ZONING CODES AND PROVIDING SEVERABILITY, CODIFICATION, PUBLICATION BY SUMMARY AND ESTABLISHING EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE REACHED THE END OF OUR PRINTED 
          [6. Announcements]
AGENDA. ALL THAT REMAINS WOULD BE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT YOU WISH TO MAKE. COUNCILOR BURTENSHAW I'M SORRY, MAYOR, I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO STEP OUT BECAUSE I AM GOING TO MAKE MY FIRST LEG OF A DRIVE TO PORTLAND TONIGHT, AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET TO BOISE. SO, OKAY, SO I AM GOING TO STEP OUT FOR THIS LAST BIT OF ANNOUNCEMENT. THANK YOU FOR STAYING AS LONG AS YOU DID, AND I WON'T BELABOR THE MEETING WITH ADDITIONAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT THIS COMING WEEKEND, BEING MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND IS ONE WHERE WE ARE FORTUNATE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO HAVE THE EXCHANGE CLUB SPONSOR THE FIELD OF HONOR AT FREEMAN PARK. THEY HAVE A FULL SLATE OF EVENTS SATURDAY, SUNDAY AND MONDAY THAT HONOR THE FALLEN, WHO HAVE SERVED IN A VARIETY OF WARS AND CONFLICTS. AND SO I JUST IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, IT'S A SIMPLE GOOGLE EXCHANGE CLOUD, IDAHO FALLS, AND YOU'LL GET THE INFORMATION ON WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE THIS WEEKEND. 
          BUT I WOULD WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY. OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, ANYTHING ELSE? IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE ARE DOING A CINCO DE MAYO EVENT. THAT'S RIGHT ON SATURDAY. SATURDAY. IS THAT BEING HELD AT THIS SAME LOCATION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR CIVILIANS? I UNDERSTAND IT'S AT THE OH, THE RIVERWALK PARK OR RIVER RIVERWALK STAGE. YEAH. RIVERWALK STAGE. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? CINCO DE MAYO WILL BE FUN. FIELD OF HONOR WILL BE A GOOD PLACE TO COMMEMORATE. AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE ARE ADJOURNED. AND I WISH EVERYBODY A SAFE AND HAPPY
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