May 19, 2025 City Council Work Session

WAS A LOT OF STUFF. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A SMALL GROUP

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[Call to Order and Roll Call]

DINGMAN HERE, COUNCILOR FREEMAN HERE. AND I'VE NOTED FRANCIS AND LARSON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO,

[Fire Department]

AND I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNCIL IS TO PROVIDE THAT SAFE AND SECURE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE GLAD TO DO THAT. OUR NUMBER ONE ASSET IN THE DEPARTMENT IS OUR PERSONNEL.

WE HAVE 133 FIREFIGHTERS AND 11 ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL. ALL OF OUR PEOPLE ARE EMS TRAINED EITHER AT THE PARAMEDIC OR EMT LEVEL. WE HAVE FIVE STAFF OFFICERS, FOUR FIRE PREVENTION OFFICERS AND TWO OFFICE MANAGERS WITHIN THAT STAFF. SO THIS IS A POSITION DISTRIBUTION AND KIND OF OUR BENCHMARKS THAT WE'RE SETTING ACROSS THE STATE. OUR FIREFIGHTERS WERE A LITTLE BIT HEAVY COMPARED TO THE STATE AVERAGE OF 82. WE HAVE 92% OF OUR STAFFING IS IN OPERATIONS.

AS FIREFIGHTERS, WE'RE LIGHT IN OUR PREVENTION OFFICERS FOR OUR SIZE STATE AVERAGE WHEN WE LOOK AT DEPARTMENTS OUR SIZE, THEY'RE RANGING ABOUT 5% OF THEIR STAFF IS IN PREVENTION AND WE RUN IN ABOUT 3%. AND WHAT YOU REALLY NOTICE IS WE'RE REALLY PRETTY LIGHT AS FAR AS OUR CHIEF OFFICERS AND OFFICE MANAGEMENT STAFF IN OUR ADMINISTRATION, WE RUN AT ABOUT 5% OF OUR STAFF IS IN FIRE ADMINISTRATION, EITHER CHIEF OFFICERS OR OUR OFFICE MANAGERS AND THE REST OF THE STATE. THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE LIKE SIZED AGAIN, ARE RUNNING SOMEWHERE AROUND 13%, 10 TO 15% OF THEIR STAFFING IS IN ACTUALLY ADMINISTRATION, RUNNING AND MANAGING THE DEPARTMENT. SO YOU CAN SEE BELOW THAT WE ARE RUNNING OUR BATTALION CHIEFS, OUR FIRST LEVEL OF MANAGEMENT THAT THAT OPERATE THOSE AND MANAGE THOSE SHIFT OPERATIONS THERE AT THEIR MAX SPAN OF CONTROL. AND SO WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE TO INCREASE THE BATTALION CHIEF MODEL. AND CHIEF BRADFORD WILL PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WHEN HE GOES INTO OPERATIONS.

CHIEF, WHEN YOU SAY LIGHT TO ME, THAT LEAN AND LEAN CAN BE GOOD UNTIL IT'S TOO LEAN. BUT WHAT WHY? WHY IS IT THAT WE HAVE WHY WE'RE HEAVY ON FIREFIGHTING IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES? SO ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE A MINIMUM STAFFING MODEL. AND SO IN ORDER TO OPERATE THE ENGINES

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THAT'S CORRECT. SO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER. YOU SAW A SLIDE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS IF NOT IDENTICAL TO THE POLICE. THE POLICE ACTUALLY RUN AND OPERATE THE IC, THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS CENTER. IT IS OWNED BY CITY PROPERTY, WAS LEASED BY THE COUNTY. ALL THE HARDWARE AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS COUNTY RESPONSIBILITY AND FUNDED THROUGH E911 DOLLARS. THE BUDGET, HOWEVER, IS A TRANSFERABLE EXPENDITURE BUDGET.

WE DON'T RECOVER ANY REVENUE ON THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, BUT WE DO SPLIT THAT BETWEEN BOTH OF OUR BOTH OUR GENERAL FUND AND OUR EMS FUND, OUR SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 42% ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE. WHICH IS ON TRACK, AND THEN 50% ON THE EMS SIDE. THAT BREAKDOWN WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT CLOSER TO IS IT'S CURRENTLY AT ABOUT A 45, 55 SPLIT. AND THE IDEA IS THAT TO GET THAT CLOSER TO 65, 65% ON THE EMS VERSUS THE GENERAL FUND, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN MY BUDGET, ACTUALLY, IN THIS NEW FISCAL YEAR, ANOTHER MONETARY

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FIRE PREVENTION IS ANOTHER DIVISION WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT. THEIR CORE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE INSPECTIONS, PUBLIC OUTREACH PLAN REVIEW, CODE ENFORCEMENT, FIRE INVESTIGATIONS AND PERMITS AND LICENSING. YOU KNOW, THEY CONDUCT THOUSANDS OF INSPECTIONS FOR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES EVERY YEAR WHILE STILL PROVIDING A PUBLIC OUTREACH AND EDUCATION ARM. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE DO AND WORK WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND PUBLIC WORKS IS PLAN REVIEW OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATIONS AND PLANS FOR CODE COMPLIANCE. THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND THOSE CONTRACTORS AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THAT PROCESS. HOW MANY OF THEM DO THAT? SO WE HAVE ONE DEDICATED PLAN REVIEWER IN OUR OFFICE, ONE OF THE FOUR, AND SOMEONE WHO SUPERVISES THEM IN CASE THEY'RE GONE, ONE THAT SUPERVISES THEM AND ONE THAT ACTUALLY CAN DO PLAN REVIEWS IF THEY ARE GONE, SO THAT WE MAINTAIN THOSE REVIEWS GOING, THEN WE ISSUE PERMITS FOR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, SPECIAL EVENTS, FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, AND REALLY OVERSEE THOSE THOSE PERMITS AND LICENSING OPERATIONS. SO SOME OF THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR FIRE PREVENTION IS BLOCK PARTIES, SCHOOL PRESENTATIONS, TOURS, STATION TOURS. BUT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES IS MARCH AND MARCH. WE DO FILL THE BOOT EVERY YEAR, LOCAL SAFETY FAIRS, AND WE PARTNER WITH EAST IDAHO FIRE CHIEFS FOR THEIR ACADEMY HERE. REGIONAL ACADEMY, OBVIOUSLY, THE DUCK RACES AND THE 4TH OF JULY FESTIVITIES. WE MAKE PLENTY AND STRETCH SOME OF THOSE THIN OCCASIONALLY WITH JUST THE PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAINTAIN. BUT OUR FIRE PREVENTION BUDGET, THEY'RE ON TRACK WITH THE WITH CONSTRUCTION AND WITH THE PLAN REVIEWS AND THE LIFE SAFETY INSPECTIONS OF COLLECTING 87% OF THEIR REVENUES ALREADY THIS YEAR, WE EXPECT THEM TO EXCEED THAT NUMBER. THEIR PLAN REVIEW BUDGETED AMOUNT WAS. I BELIEVE, $30,000. AND THEY MET THAT HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR. SO THE EXPENDITURES ARE ABOUT 45%. WE ARE SEEING A SLIGHT SAVINGS DUE TO OUR FIRE MARSHAL WHO IS ON DEPLOYMENT RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF COST SAVING ON SALARY SIDE OF THE HOUSE. I'M GOING TO TURN THE TIME OVER TO DEPUTY CHIEF RADFORD TO GO OVER FIRE OPERATIONS. THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY, MAYOR. COUNCIL. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CORE RESPONSIBILITY AND THE FIRE OPERATIONS SIDE IS OUR FIRE SUPPRESSION, EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONSE CALLS. UNDER THAT, OUR AMBULANCES, WE PERFORM RESCUE OPERATIONS. WE'RE ALSO THE REGIONAL RESPONSE TEAM FOR TECHNICAL RESCUE. WE'RE COMBINED WITH POCATELLO. COEUR D'ALENE AND BOISE ARE THE TEAMS IN THE CITY THAT PERFORM THAT DISASTER AND HAZARD MITIGATION, AS YOU CAN SEE, LIKE WHEN WE RESPONDED TO THE FLOODS HERE LAST YEAR IN THE SPRING THAT WE HAD AND STUFF LIKE THAT. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE TRAINING AND READINESS TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THOSE TASKS. SO.

OKAY, SO THIS IS A DAILY BREAKDOWN OF WHAT OUR STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE. BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

SO WE HAVE ONE BATTALION CHIEF EACH DAY. HIS RESPONSIBILITIES IS BASICALLY TO RUN THE SHIP, BE THAT CONDUIT BETWEEN THE SENIOR STAFF AND THE LINE AND THEN INCIDENT COMMAND AND STUFF. WHEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE EITHER MULTIPLE CREWS ON SCENE OR WE HAVE STRUCTURE FIRES, THE CAPTAIN'S RESPONSIBILITY, THEY RUN THE DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES IN THE STATION. THEY KEEP THE CREW COHESIVENESS, TAKE CARE OF THE DAILY OPERATING NEEDS. AND THEY'RE THE FIRST INCIDENT COMMAND IF THEY'RE THERE BEFORE THE BATTALION CHIEF DRIVERS OPERATORS AND DON'T WANT TO SIMPLIFY IT BY JUST SAYING DRIVERS, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITY. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFE TRANSPORTATION OF OUR CREW MEMBERS TO AND FROM INCIDENTS, AND THEN MAINTAINING THE WATER SUPPLY ITSELF, WHETHER FIGHTING FIRES THEY LOST, MOST OF THEM GET ASSIGNED STATION MAINTENANCE, THE KIND OF THE INFORMAL SECOND IN COMMAND. THE TROOPS COME TO OUR PARAMEDICS. THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL ASPECTS OF PATIENT CARE AND DIRECT INTRUDES ON EMS CALLS, PROPER DOCUMENTATION, NOT ONLY SO WE CAN BUILD PROPERLY, BUT KEEP OURSELVES OUT OF TROUBLE ON THE OTHER END AS WELL. AND THEN ALSO FIREFIGHTERS. THEY'RE DUAL ROLE. SAME WITH OUR FIREFIGHTERS AT THE BOTTOM. THEY'RE ALSO EMTS. A LOT OF THEM NOW ARE TAKING BASIC EMT CALLS, GETTING FAMILIAR WITH PATIENT CARE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING INTO THAT PARAMEDIC ROLE IN THE FUTURE. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS WITH

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THEY WERE THEY WERE THE NATURE OF THE CALL MADE IT SO THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO. BUT WHEN THEY GET THERE THEY'RE NOT NEEDED SOMETIMES. YEAH, MORE FREQUENTLY THEY'RE NEEDED THAN THEY'RE NOT OKAY. SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A STAT ON THAT. BUT THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD ONUS ON DISPATCH IS BECAUSE THE QUESTIONS THEY GO THROUGH AND STUFF, THEY TEAR OUT THE PROBLEM. AND THAT'S WHAT'S PART OF THE NEW DISPATCH SOFTWARE. WE MOVED IN WAS A TIERED SYSTEM.

AND SO THE QUESTIONS THEY ASK WILL DICTATE WHAT KIND OF CALL IT IS AND BE ABLE TO SEND THEM.

THE OTHER THING WE'VE DONE TO HELP TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE OFF OF OUR AMBULANCE CREWS IS WE NOW SEND THE ENGINES ON SOME BASIC EMS CALLS, LIKE FALLS WITH NO INJURY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT SOMEBODY JUST NEEDS HELP UP. AND SO WE'LL SEND THE ENGINE. BUT THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS ALL OF OUR ENGINES HAVE EMTS AT A MINIMUM ON THEM, AND A GOOD PORTION OF THEM HAVE EITHER CAPTAIN MEDICS OR DRIVER MEDICS. SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN OUR AMBULANCES ARE FULLY INVOLVED THAT THE ENGINES CAN START ADVANCED CARE, AND THEN THE AMBULANCE WILL SHOW UP TO HELP TRANSPORT. SO IT'S A GOOD BALANCE OF A COMBINATION OF SERVICE. OCCASIONALLY YOU'LL GET A HAVE AN AMBULANCE CALL FOR AN ENGINE TOO, FOR A HEAVY LIFT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHEN THEY'RE ON SCENE. AND THAT ENGINE WASN'T ORIGINALLY DISPATCHED. YEAH, OKAY. SO ARE WE, MR. CHIEF.

YEAH. DIDN'T TAKE CALLS. SO THIS GOOD INTENT CALLS ACTUALLY ENCOMPASSES SOME HAZARDOUS CONDITIONS. SOMEBODY SMELLED SMOKE, JUST NOT ODOR. SMELLED. THEY THOUGHT NATURAL GAS OR PROPANE. WE GO INVESTIGATE SERVICE CALL IS A LOT OF TIMES LIKE GOING IN, HELPING SOMEBODY OUT, A CAT IN A TREE, STUFF LIKE THAT. GOOD INTENT CALLS IS SOMEBODY THOUGHT THERE WAS A PROBLEM, BUT THERE WASN'T A PROBLEM. BUT WE HAD TO GET THERE AND INVESTIGATE IT. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF FALSE ALARMS AND GOOD INTENT CALLS ARE PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CALLS. SO ARE WE VEHICLE ASSETS? WE HAVE TWO LADDER TRUCKS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE THAT IS IN RESERVE THAT IS DUE FOR REPLACEMENT IN 3031. SO WE'RE GETTING JUST AROUND THE CORNER THERE. WE SHOULD START THINKING ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THAT AND WHAT KIND OF DESIGN. WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH. THAT CURRENT LADDER TRUCK THAT WE HAVE IS A LEASE PURCHASE. AND IT WILL BE IT IS PAID OFF. SO IT IT DOES 20 YEARS OF LIFE LEFT. SO I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD

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I THINK THERE WAS A LONG INVESTIGATION I READ RECENTLY. IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. AND YEAH, AND THERE'S ALSO JUST SOME THOUGHT THAT THE, THE HURDLES TO GET INTO THIS INDUSTRY, TO START BUILDING THEM WERE SO LARGE THAT, YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY THREE MAIN FACTORS. YEAH.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THERE'S FEWER MANUFACTURERS THAN THERE USED TO BE. WE HAVE THREE WATER TENDERS. THAT'S FOR THE AREAS WE GET TO THAT DO NOT HAVE HYBRIDS. IT'S A WATER SUPPLY. BRUSH TRUCKS. WE HAVE A LOT OF WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE. AND SO WE NEED OUR BRUSH TRUCKS. WE HAVE SOME TIGHT FOURS AND TYPE SIXES. OUR NEWEST TYPE FOUR, WE ACTUALLY HAD BUILT WE WORKED WITH A COMPANY AND WITH THE GARAGE, AND I WOULD SAY WE SAVED AT LEAST $100,000 BUILDING IT IN-HOUSE THE WAY WE DID. AND WE ALSO HAVE A TIGHT THREE ACTUALLY, WHICH IS A BIGGER BRUSH TRUCK LIKE THE TYPE FOUR. WE'VE APPLIED FOR AN RFP GRANT, AND WE'LL FIND OUT LATER THIS YEAR IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT QUEST TO HELP REPLACE AN AGING BRUSH TRUCK. WE HAVE 14 AMBULANCES, EIGHT FRONTLINE, WE HAVE RESERVES, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO TRANSPORT AMBULANCES THAT ARE DEDICATED. WE DO A LOT OF INTERSTATE TRANSPORTS BETWEEN US AND UTAH. WE HAVE TWO BATTALION CHIEF VEHICLES, ONE A PRIMARY, AND THEN WE KEPT ONE AS A SPARE. THERE'S TIMES LIKE THE 4TH OF JULY. WE BRING BACK A SECOND BATTALION CHIEF, SO WE HAVE A VEHICLE FOR HIM TO HELP RUN EVERYTHING AT THE FIREWORKS, WHERE WE'RE STILL RUNNING THE REST OF THE CITY. OUR FIRE PREVENTION VEHICLES, THEY'RE IN THEIR OWN VEHICLES TO GO DO THEIR INSPECTIONS. WE HAVE FIVE STAFF VEHICLES. HAZMAT TRUCK THAT WILL BE UP FOR RENEWAL DUE TO OUR AGREEMENT COMING FORWARD.

IN THE ASMAT WORLD. WE HAVE OUR URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE TRAILER, AND THEN WE HAVE ASSORTED SMALLER VEHICLES AND TRAILERS. OUR STATION ASSETS, WE'RE GROWING. WE GOT OUR NICE FIRE STATION ONE DOWNTOWN ADMINISTRATION, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE MEMORIAL THERE ON THE PICTURE. FIRE STATION TWO IS OUT ON LIAM LANE. THAT'S OFF HAMLIN ROAD. WE'LL BE MOVING BACK INTO FIRE STATION THREE JUST FOR OUR COVERAGE ONLY FIRE STATION FOUR, WHICH USED TO BE COUNCILMAN FREEMAN'S HOME STATION, WHICH WAS A CAPTAIN. IS OUT ON SUNNYSIDE AND WOODRUFF FIRE STATION FIVE THERE ON BELMONT ROAD. OUR NEWEST STATION THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY IS ON SPITFIRE. AND THEN THE PURCHASE OF THE STATION FROM THE DISTRICT ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW IS OUT ON 65TH SOUTH. AND THEN WE HAVE AN EMS ONLY STATION IN AN AMBULANCE IN SWAN VALLEY TO PROVIDE EMS COVERAGE. HERE'S OUR BUDGET OVERVIEW AND OPERATIONS. SO OBVIOUSLY OPERATIONS DOESN'T GENERATE REVENUE. THAT NUMBER YOU SEE UP THERE FOR THE PROJECTED REVENUE IS OUR CONTRACT FOR SERVICE WITH BONNEVILLE COUNTY FIRE DISTRICT ONE. THEY PAY HALF OF ONE PERIOD AND THEN HALF IT ANOTHER. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S AT 50%. OUR EXPENDITURES ARE UP JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR THE TIME OF MARCH. THAT IS REALLY DUE TO FRONT LOADING EQUIPMENT BECAUSE OF THE LEAD TIMES TO GET IT. SO WE ORDERED IN THE FIRST QUARTER A LOT OF STUFF. AND THEN ALSO WE

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IT'S NOT THAT THEY RUN MORE CALLS. THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL THE ENGINES RESPONDING WITH THEM. AND THEN IN THE RED LINE YOU CAN SEE THAT WE STARTED OUT ABOUT $1.5 MILLION IN THE RED IN 2019, DUE TO SOME OPERATIONAL CHANGES AND THE WAY WE'VE MANAGED EMS BUDGET, YOU CAN SEE NOW THAT WE ARE OPERATING IN THE BLACK IN 2025, YOU CAN SEE WHERE CALL VOLUME PEAKED SLIGHTLY THROUGH COVID. AND THEN WE'VE SEEN A SLIGHT REDUCTION HERE IN 23 AND 24 AS WE GO BACK TO PRE-COVID NUMBERS. BUT I WOULD EXPECT IT TO CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY RISE WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITIES. I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO CHIEF NELSON FOR THE FIRST COUNCIL PRIORITY. AS WE MOVE AWAY FROM THE OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT, WE MOVE INTO COUNCIL PRIORITIES, THE FIRST ONE BEING EXPLORE COMMUNITY WIDE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WHAT COMMUNITY WIDE FIRE DEPARTMENT CONCEPT, OR A METRO OR UNIFIED LOOK WITH BONNEVILLE COUNTY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT NUMBER ONE, THE HISTORY OF THAT CONTRACT IS. IN 1991, THAT SERVICE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED BETWEEN THE FIRE DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO THE FIRE DISTRICT. IN 2020, THE CITY OF AMMAN JOINED THE FIRE DISTRICT AND NO LONGER PROVIDED FIRE PROTECTION AS A CITY, AND SO WHEN THAT OCCURRED, THE THEY BEGAN HIRING PERSONNEL AND NOW THE DISTRICT EMPLOYS APPROXIMATELY 20 PEOPLE FROM

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CAPTAINS, PROVIDE ANOTHER DIVISION CHIEF OVER SPECIAL OPERATIONS, THE LOGISTICS OFFICER AND MAINTAINER TO DEPUTY CHIEFS, WHO WOULD THEN GROW THE BATTALION. EACH SHIFT THE BATTALION CHIEFS, WE WOULD ADD A SECOND BATTALION CHIEF MODEL, ADDING ANOTHER LAYER OF SUPERVISION TO CUT DOWN ON THAT SPAN OF CONTROL AND MOVE FROM ABOUT 44 PERSONNEL TO CLOSER TO CLOSER TO 50. THAT'S A PRETTY BOLD VISION. WHEN THEY ASKED FOR MORE DATA. TYPICALLY THAT MEANS HOW? WHAT'S THIS GOING TO WHAT? WHAT ARE THE COSTS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HOW IS THIS GOING TO TRANSLATE FOR THOSE WHO PAY TAXES IN THE COUNTY VERSUS THOSE OR WITHIN THE CITY VERSUS THOSE WHO PAY TAXES WITHIN THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT SUPER COMPREHENSIVE, YOU KNOW, EVERY POSSIBLE SCENARIO KIND OF DATA AVAILABLE NOW, BUT THIS KIND OF AN ORG CHART IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT A GIGANTIC INCREASE. YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO INCREASE. WE'VE PENCILED THAT OUT. THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY MOVE THEIR 1.8 MILLION CONTRACT CLOSER TO NEARLY 4 MILLION. IT WOULD INCREASE THE REVENUE TO THE CITY. IT WOULD HELP US BASICALLY OVER STAFF, OUR SHIFT OPERATIONS, BEING ABLE TO SEE A DECREASE IN IN OVERTIME DUE TO BEING ABLE TO COST SAVE WITH AN OVER STAFFING MODEL INSTEAD OF A MINIMUM STAFFING MODEL. AND SO THAT WOULD NOT INCREASE ANY DOLLARS TO A DISTRICT PATRON. CURRENTLY, WHAT THEY SEE ACTUALLY IS A. A LEVY OF LIKE $56.11 PER 100,000. SO 0.0005611. THAT THAT PATRON IN THE CITY LIMITS OF AMMAN IS PAYING THAT EXACT SAME AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE PAYING IN THE GREATER FIRE DISTRICT. AND SO WHAT WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT IS, IS THAT APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THOSE TWO PATRONS? AND SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT REALLY HIT HOME THE MOST, WAS THAT IT'S NOT WHETHER IT'S BETTER OR WORSE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. WE BOTH ARE VERY COMPETENT DEPARTMENTS. THE PERSONNEL ARE WELL TRAINED. THEY HAVE EXCELLENT EQUIPMENT. THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS JUST SERVICE DELIVERY. RIGHT NOW, A STRUCTURE FIRE IN THE GREATER DISTRICT UNDER CONTRACT WOULD RECEIVE THREE ENGINES, A LADDER TRUCK, TWO AMBULANCES AND A BATTALION

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IT WOULD BE AN ENHANCED SERVICE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO THE GREATER AREA. AND THE REASON WHY WE BELIEVE THAT'S A BETTER APPROACH THAN A UNIFIED NEW AGENCY IS THEN YOU THEN ON THAT CONSOLIDATION, THEN WE WOULD SEE A DRAMATIC SHIFT OF LEVY RATES AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE ACROSS PROBABLY BOTH BOTH CITIES AND THE COUNTY AT LARGE. THANK YOU. CAN I CAN YOU CLARIFY ONE MORE TIME? I THINK YOU SAID THAT AMMAN HAD 20 AND YOU WERE GOING TO MOVE FROM 44 TO 50. THERE WAS. YEAH. SO THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY IN MY HEAD OF HOW I.

YEAH. SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 45 PERSONNEL ON, ON DUTY EVERYDAY PER DAY. YEAH. AND SO IF WE PUT FIVE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ON EACH DAY, THAT WOULD BE 15 OF THOSE 20. OKAY. THE OTHER FIVE WOULD BE SLATED TO GO INTO FIRE PREVENTION AND INTO THE CHIEF OFFICER ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS. OKAY. SO IT IS IT'S INCORPORATING ALL 20 OF THEIRS, AND IT JUST INCREASES OUR DAILY STAFFING AMOUNT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU MADE A NICE POINT ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE ADVANTAGES FOR AMMAN. WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE FOR US REALLY THE ADVANTAGE FOR US IS THAT IS THE APPROACH IN OPERATIONAL SHIFT THAT WE WOULD SEE PROBABLY TO REDUCE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL FATIGUE, INCREASED ABILITY TO TRAIN. AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS QUITE A BIT OF SAVINGS IN OVERTIME DUE TO AN OVER STAFFING MODEL INSTEAD OF A MINIMUM STAFFING MODEL. BUT WE COULD PUT MORE PEOPLE ON THAT SCENE TO THAN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT MORE PEOPLE ON THE SCENE AS WELL. REDUCE DAMAGE AND LIFE SAFETY. OR AS WE GROW IN COUNCIL AND WE'RE RUNNING INTO MORE AND MORE, WE'RE HAVING TWO INCIDENTS AT THE SAME TIME. YEAH, THAT'S. TURN IT BACK OVER TO PAUL AS HE'S MANAGING OUR NORTH SIDE STATION 42. SO COUNCIL PRIORITY NUMBER TWO IS THE NEW FIRE STATION. IN 2023, WE IDENTIFIED THE NEED AND LOCATION FOR A FUTURE STATION TO THE NORTH USING THIRD PARTY ANALYTICS AND GIS DATA. IN 2023, THE USE OF ARPA FUNDS, COUPLED WITH THE SALE OF THE EIGHTH STREET PROPERTY, ALLOWED US TO PURCHASE LAND FOR THE NORTHERN FIRE STATION AND THEN UTILIZING CURRENT PLANS THAT WERE ALREADY DEVELOPED OFF OUR CURRENT STATION SEVEN, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH AMENDING THOSE PLANS JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR OUR NEEDS AND MOVING FORWARD WITH AN RFP AND A SELECTION OF THE CONTRACTOR. AND THEN IN 2025, WE BROKE GROUND ON THIS. WE WERE ALL THERE FOR THE CEREMONY. THIS MAP HERE JUST SHOWS IN THE DARKER GREEN, JUST OUR HIGHER CALL VOLUME AND THE NEED FOR THAT STATION TO THE NORTH. AND THIS WAS DONE BY A THIRD PARTY ANALYTICS AND GIS DATA. SO IT WASN'T US JUST GOING, WE REALLY THINK THIS IS WHERE IT SHOULD BE. WE ALLOWED THEM TO USE THE DATA THAT TELLS US WHERE IT SHOULD PROBABLY BE. THIS IS A

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SO THE STORAGE FACILITY IS GOING TO BE MONEY DEPENDENT. YES, IT'LL BE FUNDING DEPENDENT. BUT WE DID SAVE SOME MONEY BECAUSE WHILE WE WERE DOING THE SITE PLAN FOR THE NEW STATION, WE HAD THEM INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED STORAGE FACILITY. SO AND IT'S ALSO STUBBED UP FOR POWER, GAS AND WATER. SO EVERYTHING WE COULD DO IN THIS PHASE TO REDUCE COSTS AND PHASE TWO, WE'VE DONE SO GREAT. AND THE PROPOSED STORAGE FACILITY, WE'RE TALKING 80 BY 230 FOOT BUILDING WITH NINE PULL THROUGH BAYS THAT IT'S A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE OUTSIDE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT PLACES. SO IF WE HAVEN'T DONE A BID FOR WHAT THE IT WOULD COST TO BUILD THE STORAGE FACILITY, WE DON'T KNOW. OR DO YOU NOT OR ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO THAT BEFORE WE SUBMIT THE BUDGET, OR ARE WE JUST GOING TO? ARE WE EYEBALLING IT? WE DO HAVE A SOFT ESTIMATE.

THE ESTIMATE WHEN YOU PUT IN DOING THE HVAC AND STUFF, WE FIGURE ABOUT $2 MILLION. AND THAT WAS PROVIDED BOTH BY ARCHITECTURE AND BY CURRENT CONTRACTOR. BASICALLY ESTIMATING COSTS. AND THOSE ARE REMAINING COSTS, RIGHT? I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE SOME STUDYING, LIKE YOU SAID. OKAY, WE STARTING WITH THE SITE PLAN AS IS. OKAY. SO THE COUNCIL PRIORITY NUMBER THREE WAS FOR US TO CONTINUE WORKING ON A REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER. WE'RE WE'RE COMMITTED TO GIVING YOU AN UPDATED TRAINING CENTER FOR US. SO OUR CURRENT TRAINING TOWER IS A FOUR STORY STAIRWELL TOWER WITH OPERATING WINDOWS ON ONE SIDE. ACTUALLY, TO THE RIGHT OF THAT, THOSE BLACK WINDOWS YOU SEE THERE FACING YOU. COUNCILMAN FREEMAN PAINTED THOSE WITH A CREW TO GIVE US TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE LADDER TRUCK, BUT IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1964, AND IT'S BECOMING ALMOST UNUSABLE. THE TOP RATINGS THERE ON THE TOP, WE WILL NO LONGER ALLOW ANYBODY TO DO HIGH ANGLE TRAINING ON THAT, BECAUSE THE RAILINGS IN THAT ARE UNSTABLE AND WE DON'T HAVE FAITH IN THEM. HOLDING THE BASEMENT FLOODS ON A CONTINUAL BASIS BASIS. THERE'S ANYTIME, ANYWHERE FROM 6 TO 18IN OF WATER IN THE BASEMENT AND ANY GIVEN TIME. AND THE PARKING LOT.

IT WAS BUILT ON AN OLD CONSTRUCTION. DUMP. AND SO THE PARKING LOT IS VERY UNSTABLE.

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THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. I DIDN'T ASK IT VERY WELL. THANK YOU. THIS IS EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE KEY FIRE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT A REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY COULD PROVIDE. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF SMALL, BUT I MEAN, BASICALLY ANYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF BASIC RECRUIT ACADEMY, ADVANCED EDUCATION OFFICER DEVELOPMENT, URBAN WILDLAND INTERFACE, COMMAND AND CONTROL, MULTI-AGENCY VEHICLE EXTRICATION, AND ANOTHER ONE THAT WE CONSIDERED AND WE'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IN THE FUTURE IS AIRCRAFT RESCUE FIREFIGHTING. CURRENTLY THE ONLY PLACE CLOSE THAT DOES RFP CERTIFICATIONS IS IN HELENA. AND SO ONE OF OUR PROPOSALS TO HELP IT GENERATE ITS OWN REVENUE IS FOR US TO BECOME A TRAINING FACILITY. SO OTHER AIRPORTS WILL SEND THEIR PERSONNEL TO US TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY NEED TO MEET. THE MARKET SEGMENTATION. WE'RE LOOKING AT PRIMARY MARKET. OF COURSE, THAT WILL FALLS FIRE DEPARTMENT, SECONDARY MARKETS, PAID AND VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS HERE IN THE REGION THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN TRAINING FACILITIES. NON FIRE EMERGENCY RESPONSE AGENCIES, OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE BONNEVILLE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, STATE PATROL AND OTHER EMERGENCY MEDICAL PERSONNEL THAT AREN'T FIRE BASED. NON RESPONSE PUBLIC AGENCIES, PUBLIC WORKS, ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENTS. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT WE'RE TALKING, YOU KNOW CLASSROOMS AND INSTRUCTION AREA WHERE WE CAN BRING PEOPLE IN AND ALLOW THEM TO PRESENT AND PRESENT FOR THEM. JUST ANYTHING TO HELP BUILD REVENUE FOR THE TRAINING FACILITY. PRIVATE CORPORATIONS, MELALEUCA MODELO, BUDWEISER. WE GET ASKED EVERY YEAR BY MODELO, BUDWEISER AREAS LIKE THAT, ARE WE GOING TO BE THERE CONFINED SPACE RESCUE OR ARE WE THE GO TO FOR THEIR INSURANCE PURPOSES FOR THE LOOSE END? BACK TO CORPORATE AND OF COURSE THE WINDMILLS. WE ARE THE WE ALSO RESPOND TO THE WINDMILLS ON THE FOOTHILLS AND THEN CITIZEN GROUPS, CHURCH GROUPS, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, ETC. SO WE REALLY MEAN, YOU KNOW, OUR REGIONAL COMMUNITY BASED TRAINING FACILITY WITH PRIORITY SET ON WHO IT'S REALLY FOR, WORKING DOWN THROUGH THE DIFFERENT LEVELS. WHAT ARE WE DOING NOW? WE'RE WORKING TO IDENTIFY LAND, TO BUILD A REGIONAL TRAINING FACILITY. I THINK WE'VE IDENTIFIED IT, BUT WE'RE ALSO MAKING SURE WE HAVE BACKUP PLANS IN PLACE. WE'VE ESTABLISHED A TRAINING FACILITY COMMITTEE TO EVALUATE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAINING STRUCTURES. I DON'T THINK YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU WERE COMING BACK FROM BOISE, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE GETTING YOU OUT TO CALDWELL TO SUN VALLEY. SOME OF THE SOME CALDWELL'S IS ALL HOMEMADE, BUT THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH IT. THEY DID A LONG TIME AGO. VOICES OF COURSE, IS THE TAJ MAHAL TRAINING. SUN VALLEY JUST PUT IN A BRAND NEW KIND OF BUILDING KIT FROM GREGOR. SO THERE'S ALL THOSE ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND WE WANT TO EXPLORE ALL OF THEM. AND ALONG WITH THAT, WE'RE EXPLORING THE DIFFERENT FUNDING OPTIONS ON SPONSORSHIP. HOW CAN WE GET HOME TO SOMETHING THAT'S LARGE? ONLY IF I GET TO WORK TURNOUTS ALL DAY AND A HEAVY HAT, THAT BIG HEAVY PACK. YEAH. OH MY GOSH.

COME UP AND DOWN SOME STAIRS. YEAH. SO THE TRAINING THAT YOU WENT TO COUNCIL WORKSHOP, I'M ASSUMING IT WAS SIMILAR TO THE TRAINING I WENT TO, BUT I BELIEVE MINE WAS IN MERIDIAN. SO YOURS WAS IN BOISE? NO, MINE WAS IN MERIDIAN AS WELL. THE MAIN TRAINING CENTER THERE, THAT RIGHT BEHIND THE FIRE STATION. OR WAS YOU ALL KIND OF BY THE WASTEWATER AREA COUNCIL? I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, WAS IT MORE THAN ONE BUILDING? THERE WERE SEVERAL BUILDINGS. YOU WERE IN BOISE

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YEAH. IT'S RIGHT ON THAT BORDER UP THERE. THEY USE THEY UTILIZE THEIR GROUND WELL TOO. THEY FOUND THE OUT OF THE WAY SPOT OKAY. AND SO AND YEAH AT THE TIME IN 2014. SO IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. AND WHEN YOU WENT TO MERIDIAN WAS FAIRLY NEW AND AN UPGRADE. AND BOISE'S AT THE TIME WASN'T IN THE CONDITION OURS WAS IN, BUT IT WASN'T ADEQUATE FOR THEIR FIRE DEPARTMENT. AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY MOVED TO WHERE THEY DID. AND THEIRS IS A THREE PHASE PROJECT. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'RE DONE WITH PHASE TWO. OKAY. I'M WONDERING THOUGH, WHEN I'M WHEN WE'RE OUT THERE FOR AIC, THOSE WHO ARE GOING, IT MIGHT BE NICE TO DO A DRIVE BY AND SEE WHAT A NICE FACILITY LOOKS LIKE. IF YOU WANTED TO GET US AN ADDRESS OR ANYTHING, MAYBE WE COULD SWING BY. I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH CALDWELL'S, MERIDIAN'S, AND BOISE'S SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT THEY'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH. THAT MIGHT BE A SMART THING FOR THOSE WHO CAN CAN ADD THAT TO DRIVE AROUND TO THEIR ITINERARY THAT DAY. AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU. WE'LL PASS IT BACK TO CHIEF FOR UPCOMING PROJECTS. YEAH. THANK YOU. UPCOMING PROJECTS. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN THE NEW STATION SIX CONSTRUCTION. THOSE TIMELINES ARE COMING BACK EXTREMELY WELL. BIG DECONSTRUCTION IS HARD AT WORK. WE'RE EXCITED TO POTENTIALLY GET THERE. AND MOVED IN ABOUT THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WITH EVERYTHING'S DONE, WE HAVE WE HAVE JUST BEEN APPROVED THROUGH COUNCIL. THE PAVING OF STATION FOUR. THAT'S THE BACK PARKING LOT. THAT'S BEEN PART GRAVEL AND PART ASPHALT FOR SINCE IT WAS BUILT IN 1991. I GOT BIDS ON THAT, LIKE IN 2005. IT'S 20 YEARS AGO. WE'RE FINALLY GOING TO GET IT DONE. WE PICKED UP YOUR TORCH.

YEAH. REGIONAL HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TEAM ENHANCEMENT. I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JUST WAS APPROVED IN THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AND WILL BECOME AVAILABLE FUNDING AS SOON AS THEIR FISCAL YEAR YEAR ROLLS, JULY 1ST. THE STATE REGIONAL HAZMAT RESPONSE TEAMS WERE WERE BUDGETED FOR 868 POINT I'M SORRY, $8.6 MILLION. SO THAT LEAVES ABOUT 2.1 TO 2.5 PER TEAM. AND SO THAT IS AWARDED. AND WE SPENT THE LAST WEEK GOING THROUGH CONTRACTS THAT WE WOULD BE EXPECTED TO SIGN TO BECOME A FORCE TO STAY. THE REGIONAL HAZMAT TEAM FOR REGION SEVEN AND MOVING THROUGH EQUIPMENT. AND SO YOU WILL SEE IN OUR BUDGET AN AWARDED GRANT, BASICALLY OF $2.5 MILLION IN OUR BUDGET FOR FUTURE PURCHASE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, NOT ONLY VEHICLE, BUT EQUIPMENT TO MAKE ALL REGIONAL TEAMS ACROSS THE STATE ON THE SAME GREAT GENERATOR. INSTALLATION AT STATION SEVEN IS ALSO STILL IN PROCESS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANTICIPATED DATE IS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVEN HAVE IT. OCTOBER, OCTOBER, AND SO IT'LL ROLL THROUGH THE FISCAL YEAR, BUT IT IS TAKING SOME TIME TO GET THAT ONE. BUT WE HAVE PLACED IT ON ORDER. WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR RENEWING AND UPDATING OUR COMMUNITY RISK ASSESSMENT, OUR STANDARDS OF COVER AND BUILDING OUT A STRATEGIC PLAN, ANOTHER FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE DEPARTMENT, THOSE WE BELIEVE ARE IMPORTANT TO REALLY HAVE COUNCIL AND THE DEPARTMENT UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AND WHERE WE NEED TO MOVE IN THE FUTURE. NOT ONLY FIVE, BUT THE NEXT TEN, 15 AND 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. AND THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION AND WE'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS. WILL YOU JUST REDEFINE THE PHRASE STANDARD OF COVER FOR STANDARDS OF COVER? I, I LEARN IT AND THEN I FORGET BECAUSE I DON'T USE THE LINGO VERY OFTEN. YEAH. SO THE STANDARD IS COVER IS REALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AREAS LIKE THIS, WHEN THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT MAPS, WHEN THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO DETERMINE WHERE OUR CALL VOLUMES ARE, WHAT AREAS CAN WE GET TO, WHAT IS THE INSURANCE RATING, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE LOOKING AT? HOW WELL DO WE ACTUALLY COVER THE

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IT IT IT'S EASY TO SIT IN MY CHAIR AND MAKE OPERATIONAL DECISIONS. IT'S REALLY THE PERSONNEL AND, AND MY EMPLOYEE GROUP THAT REALLY MAKES IT WORK. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD WORK, DEDICATION, ALL THE FIRE PERSONNEL THAT ACTUALLY WORK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THAT REALLY CHANGED THE WAY THAT THEY AND BOUGHT INTO THE OPERATIONAL SHIFT. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. YEAH. GREAT. WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN CHIEF HANNEMANN WAS HERE AND WE AND I STARTED LEARNING MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE DESIRABILITY OF HAVING YOUR COST CENTERS BE CLEAN, RIGHT. IT MADE SENSE TO ME THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MORE OF OUR BUDGET COVERED BY EMS, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INCOME. WE WEREN'T COLLECTING, AND WE HAD. WE HAVE A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT METHOD OF COLLECTION, WHICH IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND FIRE. BUT WE ALSO DIDN'T YOU COULDN'T YOU CAN'T JUST ALLOCATE YOU CAN'T JUST RUN YOUR DEPARTMENT AND THEN SAY, I'M GOING TO START CHARGING MORE OF OUR COSTS WHERE THEY'RE GENERATED OVER HERE IN EMS, WITHOUT THE CHANGES THAT THE CHIEF MAKES. SO WHEN CHIEF CAME IN, YOU CHANGED OPERATIONALLY AND WENT TO THAT LEANER MODEL FOR STAFFING AND SUCH. AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT PUT US IN THIS POSITION. AND DIDN'T YOU SAY AT THE BEGINNING THAT IT'S TIME TO START EVEN PUSHING A FEW MORE COSTS OVER TO EMS? AND THAT'S THAT'S A SLOW AND GRADUAL EVOLUTION THAT IS PROVING TO WORK, WHEREAS THE LET'S JUST CHARGE IT THERE MODEL BEFORE OR THE APPROACH BEFORE.

JUST WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE WE HAVE CONSERVATIVELY, CONSERVATIVELY ESTIMATED OUR REVENUES SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS SO THAT WE DIDN'T GET IN THAT TROUBLE OF MOVING TOO QUICKLY. AND REALLY, IT DOES COME DOWN TO THAT SHIFT SLOWLY. I AM EXCITED TO SAY THAT WE ANTICIPATE OUR FIRST GMT PAYMENT ACTUALLY GRANTED, WE'RE JUST MEDICAL TRANSPORT AND REMEMBER IN 23 THAT THAT LAW WAS SIGNED INTO. INTO STATE STATUTE. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE FEDS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHO HAVE ADOPTED OUR STATE AMENDED PLAN. AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH A COMPANY AND OUR BILLING COMPANY TO BEGIN OUR FIRST COST RECOVERY REPORTS AS EARLY AS LATE SUMMER, AUGUST 31ST. I THINK THE FIRST SET WILL WE DO FOR 2023, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD THROUGH THAT PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE WE SUBMITTED OUR PLAN AMENDMENT IN JANUARY OF 2023, WE GET TO COLLECT BACK TO THOSE DATES. AND SO WE SHOULD HAVE AN INFLUX OF REVENUE. YOU'LL SEE THIS FIRST YEAR IN BUDGET, AN ESTIMATED REVENUE ON THE EMS SIDE WITH A REPLACEMENT OF EQUIPMENT THAT IF IT DOES COME, THEN WE WILL PURCHASE THAT EQUIPMENT ALMOST LIKE WE BRING IT. IF IT DOESN'T COME, WE WILL DELAY OUR PURCHASE OF THAT EQUIPMENT. AND SO THIS FIRST YEAR, AGAIN, CONSERVATIVELY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY BUDGET THAT FOR EXPENDITURES INSIDE THE BUDGET. WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TO SEE WHAT IF THOSE ESTIMATES ARE ACTUALLY ACCURATE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY START TO BUDGET IN THAT REVENUE COMING FORWARD, WILL THERE

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SPECIFICALLY, THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH IDAHO FIRE CHIEFS. THEY ALSO ARE PARTNERED WITH OUR BILLING COMPANY WHITMAN. AND SO THEY ALL KNOW IT WELL. AND ESPECIALLY FOR THESE FIRST YEARS, MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE CONTRACTORS TO DO THOSE FIRST BILLINGS BEFORE WE ATTEMPT TO DO IT ON OUR OWN. AND DO YOU THINK WE HAVE THE STAFF CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THOSE? ONCE THAT PATTERN IS ESTABLISHED? YOU KNOW, I THINK ONCE WE REALLY LEARN WHAT THEIR WHAT THE STATE AND OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS ARE GOING TO BE DEMANDING FROM US, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER TO TAKE A LOOK AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION. OKAY, SO IT'S TOO SOON TO TELL. I THINK SO. SO AND THIS IS FOR DEPUTY CHIEF RADFORD. I WAS NOTICING NOTICING THAT ON SOME OF THE CHARTS, THE TIMELINE WAS 24 TO 20. SO IT WAS MY BRAIN LOOKS AT CHARTS AND I THINK TIME MOVES TO THE RIGHT. SO AS I WAS LOOKING AT THOSE, IT ALMOST LOOKED LIKE WE HAD HIGHER VOLUMES IN 20 AND 21 AND LOWER IN 24. WE DID. AND SO CAN YOU. BECAUSE NORMALLY I THINK OF OUR DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A GROWING COMMUNITY. WE HAVE MORE CALLS NOW. WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE RESOURCE, MORE STATIONS, MORE FIREFIGHTERS. AND YET IF OUR CALL VOLUME IS OPPOSITE, WHAT OPPOSITE THAT IF THE DATA DON'T SAY THAT WE HAVE MORE TO RESPOND TO, THEN I NEED TO READJUST MY THINKING HERE. AND SO TELL ME, WAS IT JUST IN 2020 WHEN EVERYBODY WAS HOME FOR COVID THAT WE HAD THE COVID YEARS DEFINITELY HAD AN INCREASE IN BE COMPLETELY HONEST, OUR DEPARTMENT TOOK A BEATING. I MEAN, WE DIDN'T INCREASE WITH IT. AND SO WE WORKED OUR OUR OUR EMPLOYEES VERY HARD. WE ARE SEEING A DIP THAT CLOSER TO THE 2019 NUMBERS NOW. BUT PART OF THAT ALSO IS WE'VE HELPED SOME AGENCIES, WHILE WE STILL HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THEM. JEFFERSON COUNTY IS NOW STANDING UP A SERVICE THAT WE HELPED THEM WITH BLS, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'RE RETURNING TO GO TO AN ALS SERVICE, AND I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT TOMORROW HOW WELL THEIR BOND GOES, THEIR LEVY INCREASE. BUT SO WE LOST SOME CALL VOLUME THERE BETWEEN THE TWO, ABOUT A THOUSAND CALLS A YEAR, WE ESTIMATED. BUT OUR REVENUES CONTINUE TO GO UP. WE STILL RESPOND. WE STILL HAVE OUR SERVICE CONTRACTS. SO THE REVENUE IS MAINTAINED. SOME OF OUR CALL VOLUME HAS GONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT WITH THE GROWTH IN THAT, I DON'T CONTINUE TO SEE THAT BEING A CONTINUING TREND. OKAY, SO SPENDING MORE NOW THAN WE WERE IN 2020, 2021, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT IS STILL WISE BECAUSE WHAT WHAT'S THE TAXPAYER GOING TO HEAR THAT WE'RE SPENDING THAT WE HAVE FEWER CALLS NOW BUT WE'RE SPENDING MORE. WE'RE ACTUALLY OUR REVENUES CONTINUE, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SPENDING MORE. OH OKAY. THAT'S YOU SAID IT.

WE'VE DONE A BETTER JOB OF OUR BILLING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO OUR REVENUE IS INCREASED A LITTLE BIT COMPARATIVELY. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT 20 THROUGH 22 CALL VOLUME SPIKE PASSED REVENUE BY LAUNCH. AND SO AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE REPORT. IT'S BEEN VERY THOROUGH AND GIVEN IT TOUCHED ON A LOT OF DATA POINTS THAT ARE USEFUL AND VERY USEFUL FOR US TO HAVE. BUT WHEN THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE LISTENING, WE'RE LISTENING FOR THE TAXPAYERS MINDSET, WHEREAS YOU ARE PROFESSIONALS DELIVERING THE PROFESSIONAL MINDSET. AND WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CONNECT HERE IN THIS ROOM AND WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. SO THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU GET THE LAST WORDS. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT HAVE ROCKS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UNTURNED, OVERTURNED STONES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TURNED YET. I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR THE I HAVE SEEN SOME OTHER REPORTS THAN THESE. AND SO GRATEFUL THAT WE'RE HAVING REVENUES THAT ACTUALLY MATCH, AND WE'RE USING THEM RESPONSIBLY AND USING THEM INTELLIGENTLY AND ASKING THOSE

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LIKE WE'VE HAD THIS BENEFIT AND IT'S REALLY HELPED US NOW WITH WITH MEDICAID KIND OF OPTIONS.

TELL ME MORE ABOUT THAT AND HOW MUCH WE SHOULD PROTECT THAT AND JUST KIND OF SPEAK TO THAT. AND THEN ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME FROM THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'D EVER HEARD THAT ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT KIND OF. WE WERE THE FIRST OR SECOND IN THE NATION. LIKE, I WONDER IF WE COULD TELL THAT STORY MORE THAT BECAUSE I'LL BE HONEST, PEOPLE OFTEN TELL ME, OH, I WANT TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY WITH HORSES. AND IT'S SO GREAT. AND I'M LIKE, WELL, IF YOU'RE 60 AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK OR YOU HAD AN AORTA LIKE MINE, YOU MAY WANT TO LIVE IN TOWN SO YOU HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF LIVING. BUT SPEAK TO THOSE PEOPLE. YEAH. SO I THINK THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND PROBABLY REALLY CAME TO A HEAD ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO IN BOISE, ACTUALLY WAS LOOKING TO TRY TO TAKE OVER EMS OR OR DO THAT TRANSPORT PORTION OF EMS. AND ADA COUNTY REALLY IS A SOLID ORGANIZATION. AND THE WAY THAT THEY STOOD UP THEIR MODEL, YOU KNOW, IN THE 70S AND 80S WITH THE COUNTY MODEL AND THOSE THOSE COMMISSIONERS UNDER THAT DISTRICT RUNNING THAT MODEL WORKED FOR THEM. YOU ASKED HOW MUCH WE SHOULD PROTECT WHAT WE HAVE GREATLY. YOU KNOW, IT ACTUALLY REALLY DOES WORK. THESE TWO FUNDS WORKING IN CONNECTION REALLY DOES ALLOW US TO KEEP COSTS DOWN. IT ALLOWS OUR GENERAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN A HIGH LEVEL OF PERSONNEL THAT ARE CROSS-STAFFED, TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO ANY EMERGENCY, WHILE STILL MEETING THE NEEDS OF BOTH EMS AND FIRE. AND SO WE WOULDN'T NEED WE WOULDN'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF LESS PEOPLE TO PROVIDE THOSE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES. AND YOU SEE THAT IN BOISE. I THINK THERE ARE NOW 300 AND 250 FIREFIGHTERS, 50 PLUS IN STAFF STAFFING. SO AROUND 300 PERSONNEL THERE TO PROVIDE JUST FIRE. NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T PROVIDE EMS SERVICES.

THEY JUST CAN'T BILL FOR IT. AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AVENUES ALL THE TIME OF HOW TO BREAK INTO THAT, TO BE ABLE TO CREATE SOME REVENUE. BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE MODELS WE ACTUALLY ARE BEING LOOKED AT IN EVERY CONFERENCE WE GO TO AND ACROSS THE STATE OF HOW IS OUR MODEL WORKING SO WELL? LOTS OF AGENCIES TRY IT, AND IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, THE BUY IN AND THE OPERATIONAL SHIFTS AND BEING ABLE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. BUT IT IT IS THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT MODELS OUT THERE FROM PRIVATE SERVICE TO HEALTHCARE MODELS WHERE

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THEY DIDN'T START IVS OR OR SHOCK OR, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR GIVE MEDS. SO YEAH, THAT THAT WAS THE WHOLE START OF THE WHOLE THING. AND IT'S JUST PROGRESSED TO THE POINT. I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE GIVING MEDICATIONS NOW THAT I DIDN'T GIVE EVEN 15 YEARS AGO THAT WERE YEAH, IT'S MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TELL THAT STORY FAR AND LIVES TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY. I THINK THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE HEARING YOU SAY THAT IT'S THE THIRD TIME YOU SAID IT. OKAY, SO THAT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THAT IS THAT WAS THE COMMENT THAT I WANTED TO ADD TO. I'M NOT TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THOSE PRIORITIES. THOSE ARE THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A BIG STORY TO TELL HERE, NOT JUST WITH THAT, BUT JUST THE RESPONSE TIME, BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO SAY, LIKE, WELL, YOUR HOUSE, SORRY, YOUR HOUSE BURNED DOWN.

IT'S TOO BAD YOU DIDN'T LIVE IN IDAHO FALLS. I MEAN, SO THERE'S LIKE THAT TRICKY PIECE THERE, BUT THE RESPONSE AND THE SERVICE AND THE PROFESSIONALISM THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS IS A IS A STORY. AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WHAT DO I GET FOR MY TAXES? YES. YOU HAVE A GREAT THE CITY SURVEY, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT STORY. IT'S LIKE THIS IS WHAT PROFESSIONALISM YOU GET. SO I DO THINK THERE'S A BIG STORY TO SHARE ABOUT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A WOULDN'T BE THE NEED FOR THAT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, GENTLEMEN, IS THAT NONE OF THIS STORY COULD BE TOLD AS WELL AS YOU TOLD IT TODAY, WITHOUT THE LEAN STAFF THAT YOU HAVE IN THE OFFICE, AS WELL AS WITH LEADERSHIP IN THE DEPARTMENT, IT'S IN SOME WAYS A SACRIFICE FOR FIREFIGHTERS TO STEP INTO THE LEADERSHIP RANKS IN OUR DEPARTMENT. THEY STEP AWAY FROM THE ACTION AND THEY STEP AWAY FROM ALL KINDS OF OVERTIME OPPORTUNITIES. AND IF YOU COULD SOMEHOW CONVEY TO YOUR DEPARTMENT MEMBERS, AS YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, THE HIGH RATE OF SATISFACTION AND PRIDE THAT WE'RE ALL LEFT WITH AFTER WE JUST HEAR A BASIC REPORT FROM THE DEPARTMENT, IT'S I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD THE EMBELLISHED REPORT. SO AFTER JUST THE BASICS, IT'S JUST SO DARN IMPRESSIVE. AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A LOT OF THAT GETTING US IN THE BLACK OUT OF EMS. RED HAS COME PARTLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS WORKED LEAN AND HARD. AND SO PLEASE PASS THAT ON TO THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND A QUESTION.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TAKE A VERY BRIEF BREAK. MAYBE A THREE MINUTE BREAK UNTIL 20 AFTER, AND THEN WE'LL BRING UP OUR TEAM FOR THE FINANCE, THE FINANCE TEAM FOR THE QUARTERLY REPORT.

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[Municipal Services]

TALK ABOUT INVESTMENTS AND CASH BALANCES. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR FAVORITE TOPIC IN THE WORLD, WHICH IS FINANCES. MY GOAL IS TO DO IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOUR EYES DON'T GLAZE OVER AND WANT TO QUIT. SO I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT ARE COMING WITH THE CITY AND THE CITY'S FINANCES. STARTING OFF WITH CASH BALANCES, STARTING HERE AT THE BOTTOM. SO FOUR YEARS AGO, WE WERE 146 MILLION THAT WAS COMING OUT OF COVID, AND NOW WE'RE AT 210. SO THAT'S QUITE A BIG JUMP IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHY THAT IS. AND FOR ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE BOOK WHO IS LOOKING I WANT TO KNOW WHY DO WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY. SO I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT REAL QUICKLY. COMING OUT OF COVID, THERE WAS SOME 2022. WE HAD SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WERE FUNDED BY BONDS, AND THOSE BONDS WERE NOT DRAWN DOWN UNTIL THE SUBSEQUENT YEARS. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN LOOK AT HERE IS IDAHO FALLS. POWER FOR YEARS WAS SITTING AT 37 MILLION. THAT WAS COMING OUT OF THEIR SUBSTATION CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. NOW THEY'RE SITTING AT 60. AND SO THERE WAS A BIG JUMP FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. THAT'S BECAUSE THAT DRAW HAPPENED IN THAT SUBSEQUENT YEAR. THEY SPENT THE MONEY IN ONE YEAR AND DREW DOWN THE NEXT YEAR. THAT WAS JUST THE TIMING OF THE BOND DRAWS. BUT ALSO DURING THIS TIME, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED. WE'VE ADDED NEW FUNDS WITH THE IMPACT FEES FUNDS. WE HAVE THOSE ON THERE, THOSE THOSE ADD SOME VALUE AS WELL AS WE'VE HAD SOME IMPROVEMENT IN AREAS. WE'RE ALL VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE AIRPORT IS IN POSITIVE CASH AFTER WE RESOLVE ALL THOSE ISSUES. THAT'S ONE AREA THAT'S IMPROVED AS WELL AS. STREET SPUD. AND WHERE ARE WE AT RIGHT THERE. SO THAT'S INCREASED UP TO 11 MILLION. SO FROM 4 MILLION TO 11 MILLION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT HAVE IMPROVED FINANCIALLY SPEAKING ALSO WITH THE TIMING OF FUNDS. BUT MOST OF OUR FUNDS ARE CASH IS IN THE BOTTOM HALF. BOTTOM THIRD WHICH IS YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. THOSE ARE ACCUMULATE FUNDS FOR THE REPAIR OF CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND SO THE GENERAL FUND HAS BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND SO. YOU COULD SAY THAT WE ARE JUST MAINTAINING THE GENERAL FUND FROM YEAR TO YEAR. SO THAT'S ANY QUESTIONS ON CASH BALANCES. I WILL MAKE ONE MORE POINT. GOLF FUND I APOLOGIZE I WAS REALLY BLIND. SO I'M GUESSING THAT'S GOLF RIGHT THERE IS IMPROVING. SO WE'RE FOR THE SECOND QUARTER WHICH IS LEADING INTO THEIR SEASON. YOU WOULD TAKE OUT PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE WANT DECEMBER THAT FIRST QUARTER, DECEMBER TO MARCH IS KIND OF WHEN THEY HIT THEIR LOWEST POINT IN CASH. BUT THEY'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD COMING INTO THIS BUSY SEASON. SO THERE'S TIMES THAT THAT IS POSITIVE DURING. YES. CORRECT. OKAY. THEY BUY A LOT OF INVENTORY EARLY IN THE YEAR. YES THEY DO. THEY THEY HAVE SOME SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER. THEY HAVE LIKE SOME DIGITAL STUFF. BUT REALLY THEY'RE THEY WAIT FOR THE WEATHER TO GET WARM AND THE SNOW TO MELT BEFORE THEY CAN START SELLING THESE. HEY, THIS WILL BE ALSO ON YOUR TRADITION REPORT COMING OUT THIS WEEK. OKAY. JUST LOOKING AT THE CITYWIDE TREND, I GIVE YOU A LOT OF NUMBERS. I

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SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. AND SO WE MANAGE MANAGE OUR SAFETY BY HOW WE INVEST. WE FIRST OF ALL WE DIVERSIFY. SO WE DON'T PUT EVERYTHING INTO ONE AREA. WE LIKE TO SPREAD THAT AROUND. BUT THEN WE PUT THE MAJORITY OF OUR FUNDS ARE IN LESS RISKY AREAS.

AND STATE LAW SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO BE MORE RISK AVERSE. AND SO WE THERE'S ONLY CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN INVEST IN. BUT TREASURY IS BACKED BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. AND THEN THIS ONE OVER HERE. AGENCY, THAT MEANS IT'S BACKED BY THE FAITH OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BY NAME. AND SO THOSE ARE YOUR MORTGAGE BACKED SECURITIES THAT ARE MADE, FREDDIE MAC. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR COMMERCIAL BONDS OVER HERE, WHICH HAVE A LITTLE HIGHER YIELD. BUT ARE WE DON'T PUT HEAVY IN THAT AREA BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE MORE SAFETY. BUT WE INVEST IN THINGS THAT HAVE A RATING OR BETTER. AND THEN WE ALSO PUT SOME IN CDS WHICH ARE INSURED. AND THEN OUR LJP IN THE MONEY MARKET ARE ALL LIQUID FUNDS. WE ALSO ENSURE THOSE TO PROTECT AGAINST LOSS. AND THEN WE GET INTO LIQUIDITY. THIS IS HAVING THE FUNDS AVAILABLE WHEN WE WHEN WE NEED THEM. WE DO A LADDER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE TRY TO MAINTAIN A LADDER, THAT THE INVESTMENTS ARE MATURING ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE THEM ALL MATURING AT THE SAME TIME. IT WOULD NOT BE WISE IF WE PUT ALL OUR MONEY IN A TEN YEAR OR FIVE YEAR BOND AND SAY, OKAY, WE'LL USE IT IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. SO WE WANT IT TO BE RECYCLING AND, AND EVERY MONTH THAT WE'RE REINVESTING WHEN WE HAVE AVAILABLE FUNDS. SO YOU SEE OUR LADDER. IT'S KIND OF SQUARE, KIND OF TAPERS OFF RIGHT HERE AND HAS A TAIL. RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF OUR CASH FLOW AND CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE'RE ONLY INVESTING A FEW TIMES A YEAR. IT USED TO BE WE'RE INVESTING EVERY MONTH. NOW IT'S REALLY 2 OR 3 TIMES A YEAR WHEN THOSE LARGE PAYMENTS COME IN. OKAY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT AN INVESTMENT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO INVEST, WE LOOK AT THE AREAS THAT ARE DEFICIENT. SO OUR NEXT ROUND OF INVESTING WILL FOCUS RIGHT HERE TO BRING THESE UP. AND THEN A COUPLE AT THE END TO MAINTAIN THAT RATIO OF 7525, 75% WITHIN TWO YEARS, AND 25% FROM 2 TO 5 YEARS. THIS IS JUST ALSO SHOWS YOU THE RATIO OF OUR INVESTMENT POLICY, WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO KEEP AT LEAST 75% WITHIN TWO YEARS, AND THEN 2 TO 5 YEARS WITH AT THE MAX IS 25%. R RATIO IS A LITTLE OFF. WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE CLOSER TO 25% RIGHT HERE. BUT BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY INVESTING IN THREE TIMES A YEAR, IT TAKES A WHILE FOR US TO GET THAT TAIL. PLUS IT WAS JUST OPPOSITE. YES, A TIME OR TWO BEFORE WE HAD 74%. THAT WAS YEAH, YEAH. SO IT'S EACH MONTH AND EACH QUARTER HAS A DIFFERENT FLAVOR THAT WE, WE MONITOR. AND THEN THIS ON THIS SIDE IT SHOWS YOU HOW IT'S BROKEN DOWN BY BY MONTHS. AND AGAIN THIS IS ALL PART OF A MAINTAIN INVESTMENT POLICY. SO THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS WHEN WE NEED TO. THEY'RE SAFE AND WE'RE MAXIMIZING OUR YIELD. SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT YIELD YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE FED RATE. THE FED RATE REALLY SETS WHAT THAT MARKET TONE IS. THERE'S SOME OTHER FACTORS WHICH WE'LL GET INTO RIGHT NOW THAT THAT FED RATE IS 4.5%. AND IT'S BEEN CONTAINED THERE. AND IT

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BUT THE CONVERSE OF THAT IS UNEMPLOYMENT. UNEMPLOYMENT IS HIGH. AND SO WHICH IS WHAT YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU RAISE INTEREST RATES THAT UNEMPLOYMENT WOULD GO UP AND INFLATION WOULD GO DOWN.

IT'S TAKING IT'S TAKING A LITTLE BIT TO GET THAT TO STABILIZE. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE KIND OF HOLDING THAT 4%, OVER 4% UNEMPLOYMENT. IF THEY WOULD TO CUT THE FED RATE AND MAKE IT MAYBE 4.25%, YOU WOULD CONVERSELY SEE UNEMPLOYMENT COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND IT SHOULD COME UP. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT BALANCE BETWEEN UNEMPLOYMENT AND INFLATION. THE X FACTOR IN THIS DISCUSSION IS GDP. SO THIS LAST QUARTER WE HAVE A LOSS OF GDP. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S DROPPED DOWN BELO. AND IT GROWTH INDICATOR. SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE A SECOND ONE OF THESE THIS NEXT QUARTER THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE BY DEFINITION WE'RE IN A RECESSION.

SO THOSE ARE THE FACTORS THAT THE FED CHAIR WEIGHS WHEN THEY DECIDE WHAT THE RATE SHOULD BE.

BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR YIELD THAT WE CAN INVEST IN RIGHT NOW IS AROUND 4.5%. THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECT OUR RATE OF RETURN TO BE AS WE BLOOM THEM OUT. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FACTORS ON INFLATION? UNEMPLOYMENT? OKAY, GOOD. THIS IS JUST THE CHART DATA FOR THE GRAPHS THAT WE PRESENTED. SO THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE TREASURY REPORT WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE. SO THIS IS A SUPER HIGH LEVEL SUMMARY I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO SKIP THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE FINISHING UP KIND OF HALF OF THE YEAR EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN MAY. THIS IS THE SECOND QUARTER REPORT. SO IT GOES THROUGH THE END OF MARCH. WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE ON OUR REVENUES CITYWIDE IS WE ARE IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY BOTTOM WE'RE UNDER EACH ONE OF THE. WE'RE UNDER HALF OF OUR REVENUES. BUT A BIG PORTION OF THAT IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SEASONALITY COMING. SO ALL THE SUMMER ACTIVITY THAT COMES UTILITY USAGE OR LIKE WATER IS HIGHER IN THE SUMMER, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE OF THINGS GOING UP DURING THE SUMMER ON OUR REVENUES. OTHER THAN YOU SEE, PROPERTY TAXES AT THE TOP IS AT 60%. WE GET A BIG PAYMENT IN JANUARY, THE OTHER ONE IN JULY. SO OUR TAXES ARE KIND OF ABOVE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR. AT THIS POINT. OUR INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUES, A LOT OF THAT IS OUR GRANTS. SO IT'S GRANT REVENUES THAT WE'LL BE BILLING AND REIMBURSEMENT FOR. SO WE'LL SEE THOSE ONES GO UP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. OUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES FOR GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES. AGAIN, IT'S OUR SEASONAL THINGS COMING THIS UPCOMING SPRING AND SUMMER ACTIVITY. BUT ENTERPRISE SERVICES ARE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE THEIR BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. OUR PERMIT FEES AND IMPACT FEES ARE A LITTLE HIGHER. WE SAW A LOT OF ACTIVITY RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, PRIMARILY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING COMING IN FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

SO THOSE AMOUNTS CAME IN A LITTLE HIGHER. AND THEN OUR CONTRIBUTION REVENUES, THAT'S AGAIN, JUST A LOT OF ZOO AND PARKS DONATIONS THAT WERE COMING IN HERE. AND THEN OUR MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES. THAT'S A LOT OF OUR LEASES. IT'S ENERGY EFFICIENCY MONIES FROM FROM POWER. AND THEN OUR OTHER FINANCING SOURCES. THAT'S OUR DEBT DRAWDOWNS FOR POWER. AND THEN A LOT OF OUR INTERNAL FUNDING FOR MURPH FOR HEALTH SAVINGS, WORKER'S COMP INSURANCE. SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE VARY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. BUT IT'S A BIG DOLLAR AMOUNT. ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR CITYWIDE REVENUE? I JUST WONDERED ABOUT YOU SAID TAXES AND FRANCHISES WERE 30, BUT WE GET JANUARY JULY. WE SHOULDN'T TAKE THIS AS HALF BECAUSE THEN WE'D BE AT 60 MILLION. BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE RIGHT. SO JULY IS NOT AS BIG AS THE ONE WE GET IN JANUARY.

OKAY. SO THEN ON OUR EXPENSE SIDE, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION. DO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE

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AND SO IT ALWAYS GIVES US A GUT CHECK DURING THIS TIME OF YEAR. LIKE OKAY, DO WE THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT POSITION. RIGHT. AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE READ AN ARTICLE THIS WEEK ABOUT THE STATE OF IDAHO BEING $400 MILLION IN THE FIRST, UNDER WHAT THEY EXPECTED IN THE FIRST QUARTER. SO ESTIMATING THESE REVENUES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT ABOUT HOW WE BUDGET. AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM THAT'S ALMOST HALF $1 BILLION THAT THEY'RE OFF. SO IT'S NICE FOR US TO BE IT'S MY EXPERIENCE CONSISTENTLY THAT WE ARE A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AND WE'LL BE WATCHING THE STATE SHARED REVENUES. THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF THAT IMPACT. SO MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE COMING IN, WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING SO FAR THEY ARE, BUT THEY DO SHOW UP IN AUGUST, I BELIEVE. YEAH. I DON'T EXPECT THOSE TO IMPACT US A LOT. THESE WERE ESTIMATES ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY BRING IN INCOME TAXES. YEAH, YEAH. THEY WERE HOPEFUL BUDGETING IS WHAT THEY WOULD DO BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE BEARING ON PROPERTY TAX. RIGHT. SO OKAY SO FOR OUR WAGES AND BENEFITS CITYWIDE WE'RE A LITTLE UNDER BUDGET. BUT AGAIN WE HAVE SOME SEASONAL COMING. SO BEING UNDER BUDGET IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH OUR PRIOR YEARS. AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR, OPERATING EXPENSES AGAIN ARE DOWN WELL BELOW HALF OF THE YEAR. AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF SEASONAL COSTS COMING. CAPITAL OUTLAY IS UNDER. WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF BUDGET FOR COMING UP INTO MORE OF A CONSTRUCTION SEASON. WE HAVE THE BIG PROJECT WITH PEAKING PLANT, WATER TOWER, WASTEWATER EXPANSION. A LOT OF MONEY IS GOING THERE ON TOP OF JUST EQUIPMENT PURCHASES. AND THEN OUR EXPENSES. THAT'S THE CAPITAL PURCHASES OF REPLACEMENTS. SO THOSE ARE A LOT OF THOSE ARE ON ORDER. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF TIMING DELAYS. IT JUST THINGS TAKE A WHILE TO GET HERE ONCE WE ORDER THEM. THAT WAS GOOD. YOU KNOW THE EXPENSES. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR CITYWIDE EXPENSES, I'LL GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE GENERAL FUND DETAIL. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES. JUST NARROWING DOWN THE LENS HERE FROM OUR CITYWIDE. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR TAXES THE FRANCHISE IT'S EVEN HIGHER THAN THE CITYWIDE AS WE JUST ARE FOLKS KNOW THE GENERAL FUND ALONE AND THEN INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE. WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO THAT 50%.

THOSE ARE MORE QUARTERLY PAYMENTS FROM THE STATE, SOME GRANT REVENUES THAN THE GOVERNMENTAL CHARGES FOR SERVICES IS LESS THAN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AT THE CITYWIDE LEVEL BECAUSE OF A LOT OF OUR SEASONAL PROGRAMS WITH PARKS, WITH THE ZOO, A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS ARE THOSE SEASONAL ONES COMING UP. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT PERMITS AND FEES. THAT'S A LOT OF THAT ACTIVITY THAT CAME IN EARLY FIRST QUARTER. AND THEN OUR MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES ARE ABOUT HALFWAY ON TARGET AS WELL. SO ANY QUESTIONS THERE ON OUR GENERAL FUND REVENUES. OKAY.

YEAH. SO I'M STILL LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS. THE SECOND QUARTER, 2324 OF THE INTEREST REVENUE OF 358 VERSUS THE SECOND QUARTER THROUGH MARCH OF 68 OR 45, WHAT IS THE $300,000 DISCREPANCY ON THAT? IT'S JUST IT'S REALLY JUST MARKET ADJUSTMENTS. SO IT'S AN ACCOUNTING FUNCTION. SO WE WHEN INTEREST RATES CHANGE, IF THE INTEREST RATE IS GROWING WE HAVE A GAIN. IF THE INTEREST RATE IS GOING DOWN WE HAVE A LOSS. AND SO INTEREST RATES ARE GOING DOWN WHICH MEANS WE'RE SHOWING A LOSS. ON IF WE WERE TO TAKE OUR INVESTMENT AND SELL IT TODAY AT THE OPEN MARKET. IT USED TO BE THAT WE DIDN'T RECORD THOSE UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR, BUT THE ACCOUNTING STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED. THEY WANT THOSE TO BE RECORDED AS WE GO. OKAY. OUR INTENTION IS NEVER TO TAKE THE LOSS, RIGHT? YEAH. BUT WE HAVE TO SHOW IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS IF WE HAVE TO SELL THEM ALL TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. SO ON OUR WAGES AND BENEFITS HERE, WE'RE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES. WE ARE A LITTLE TIGHTER ON THE BUDGET. WE'RE ALMOST UP TO THE HALF OF THE YEAR THERE. I THINK FIRE CHIEF TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FIRES. WE STILL HAVE SOME

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THERE'S 11 OUTSTANDING. EVERYTHING ON THIS LIST IS ORDERED IN PROCESS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'VE SUBMITTED ALL OF THE FUNDS TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, AND THESE ARE JUST THE ONES REMAINING THAT ARE STILL BEING WORKED ON. BEARCAT IS ORDERED. WE'RE EXPECTED TO GET THAT THIS LATE FALL OR EARLY FALL NORTH FIRE STATIONS UNDERWAY. GENERATOR.

GENERATOR FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN IS ON ORDER FROM TIER CENTER IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. CITY HALL ELEVATOR IS JUST ABOUT DONE. WRAPPING UP ALL THE COSTS THERE AND CONTRACT THERE. WE'RE OPERATING THE ELEVATOR. IT'S UP AND RUNNING HERITAGE PARK RESTROOMS, FINALIZING THOSE AS WELL. THE GIFT ADA MAN JUST GOT HERE, I BELIEVE, LAST WEEK. SO THIS IS WE HAVEN'T PAID FOR IT YET, BUT WE JUST GOT IT. AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS HAS THESE LAST FOUR PROJECTS FOR SURFACE IRRIGATION AND STORM DRAIN IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE ARE ALL UNDER CONTRACT AND UNDERWAY. SO WE'RE HOPING TO GET ALL OF THESE FUNDS USED UP BY PROBABLY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE, LIKE THE NORTH FIRE STATION MAY NOT BE DONE. THE WILL BE DONE. WE'LL BE FINISHING UP ALL THAT ARPA FUNDING. AND JUST A REMINDER, WE HAVE TO SPEND IT ALL BY DECEMBER 31ST AT 2026, WE NEEDED TO OBLIGATE IT NO LATER THAN DECEMBER 31ST OF 2024. SO WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT ON THOSE PROJECTS. THE BULK OF IT. WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY TO BE DONE A YEAR EARLY. DO YOU FEEL ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE CALLBACKS THAT THE DOGE AND THE GOVERNMENT? AND SO THIS MONEY IS ALREADY IN THE END, WE HAVE ALL THE CASH ALREADY. SO THEY LITERALLY HAVE TO MAKE US SEND IT BACK. BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME TALK THAT'S NOT UNDISCUSSED.

YEAH. SO THANKFULLY ALL OF OURS IS UNDER CONTRACT, SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. BUT AGAIN, IT'S SUBJECT TO WHATEVER OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES. OKAY. SO THEN THIS IS THE SCHEDULE OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED THROUGH THE BUDGET FOR THOSE ONE TIME REQUESTS. AND ALL OF THEM ARE UNDERWAY. THE PARKING LOT, STATION FOUR WAS JUST APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST WEEK FOR THE ALLEYWAY IMPROVEMENTS. THEN THE NEW RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WE'VE PURCHASED THAT BACK IN FEBRUARY. WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY NEED FOR THE ADDITIONAL 20,000 FOR FACILITY REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE IN BUDGET AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR. LAST YEAR, WE HAD A LOT OF HVAC UNITS. WE HAD THAT HOT STREAK, A LOT HVAC UNITS FELL APART FOR A BIT. SO THIS BUDGET ITEM WAS GOING TO HAVE SOME EXTRA CAPACITY INCREASE. THINGS CAME UP DURING THE YEAR. WE HAVEN'T HAD TO PULL FROM THAT YET. PARKS AND REC HAS ORDERED TWO 300 TON CREW CAB PICKUPS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

THEY'RE GETTING QUOTES FOR THE SIDE BY SIDE FOR HORTICULTURE, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS PURCHASED THEIR FINGERPRINTING SOFTWARE AND EQUIPMENT. I BELIEVE THAT WAS COMPLETED BACK IN FEBRUARY. AND THEN PARKS AND REC DID THE TWO TWO FURNACES AT PINECREST DONE BY OUR BUILDING

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AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WE LOOKED AT WAS THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET OVER AT OUR CITY, ANNEX B. THAT ONE WAS GOING TO BE GETTING SOME QUOTES FOR FINALIZING THE LOWEST OF THE THREE QUOTES TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT WORK DONE. THIS YEAR. THE 20,000 WAS ALSO SET ASIDE FOR ANY POSSIBLE ASSISTANCE THAT WE MAY NEED WITH LIKE AN ENGINEER, MECHANICAL ENGINEER, IF YOU WILL, FOR OUR AQUATIC CENTER BOILER. THAT BOILER IS OVER 20 YEARS OLD. I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE 25 YEARS OLD IS WHAT I WANT TO SAY. AND SO WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME MONEY SET ASIDE FOR THAT. WE DID HIRE A MECHANICAL ENGINEER. HE HELPED US PUT TOGETHER THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WERE USED FOR THE PACKAGE THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DUE LATER THIS MONTH, AS BROOKSIDE MENTIONED.

COULD WE FINISH THE FUEL? FACILITY PROJECT? THE FUEL CANOPY THAT IS ALSO OUT TO BID AS WELL? OKAY, THAT WE ARE HOPING TO GET THE LOWEST OF THE THREE QUOTES, BOTH THE AQUATICS BOILER AND THE CANOPY ARE QUALIFIED AS A PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH OVER $100,000. THE BOILER WAS ESTIMATED. WE RECEIVED A QUOTE RIGHT BEFORE WE STARTED THE BUDGET LAST YEAR AT 255,000, AND THE CANOPY IS ABOUT A LITTLE OVER 300,000 IS WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING. AND THE REASON THE CANOPIES COSTING MORE IS WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING IT OVER OUR CURRENT FOOTPRINT. IF WE WOULD HAVE DONE THE CANOPY AT THE TIME WE BUILD THE FACILITY, IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AS EXPENSIVE. BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT, AND WE ARE HOPING TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU. WITH THAT. THAT IS NOT A ONE TIME EXPENDITURE. IT IS MORE OF A JOINT VENTURE WITH THE COUNTY. SO IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. YEAH. CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT FUND THAT CAME OUT OF? I MEAN I KNOW WE HAD THE MONEY THERE SET ASIDE FROM ALL OF THE PAYMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM BONNEVILLE COUNTY, BUT IS IT A IS IT A CIP FUND ON OUR FUND LIST OR IS IT. NO, IT'S IN DESIGNATED CASH BECAUSE WE GET FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE. SO WE SPENT ON THE GENERAL FUND OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN IT'S WONDERFUL TO HAVE THE TRACKING ON SOME SINGLE SLIDE OF THE ONE TIME MONEY AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WAS DONE TO CREATE THIS TRACKING SYSTEM, THIS THIS SUMMARY AND THE TRACKING OF IT. SO THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL THEN WE MAY BE NEAR THE END OF THIS REPORT. WE'RE READY TO SAY GOODBYE.

WELCOME. COUNSELOR FRANCIS, WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE HERE NOW. AND YOU MAY HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS, BUT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURS LATER. OKAY, BUT BUT ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THE REPORT? JUST. I HAD AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE WHO VISITED OUR CITY, AND HE SOMEONE HAD TOLD HIM WE HAD A LOT OF RESERVES AND IT'S FUNNY TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT I HAD TO TEMPER HIS EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE SO MANY OF THOSE RESERVES ARE FOR THINGS LIKE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CASH AND INVESTMENTS OFTEN, BUT IF SOMEONE ASKS YOU THAT QUESTION, HOW MANY, HOW MANY DOLLARS IN RESERVES DO WE HAVE? IT'S A BIT COMPLEX. WHEN I GET ASKED THAT AND TRY TO TELL THE STORY, WHAT WOULD YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT BE?

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I REMEMBERING THAT 18 TO 25%. YEAH. AND WHERE ARE WE AT? WE'RE CLOSE TO THAT. NOT QUITE. BUT IF YOU WOULD HAVE TO SCRAPE OFF ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE REQUIRED TO HOLD FUNDS FOR THAT ARE CONSIDERED, DESIGNATED AND RESTRICTED, AND YOU LOOK AT JUST OUR POOLED CASH, IF YOU YOU PICK A POINT IN TIME, LIKE WHAT MONTH IS OUR INDICATOR MONTH? IT WOULDN'T BE JANUARY IF THAT'S WHERE WE GOT ALL OUR FUNDS IN AT ONE TIME. OUR INDICATOR IS DECEMBER AND SO THEY'RE THE LOWEST POINT. AND SO IT'S ABOUT 10 MILLION, WHICH IS STILL NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE. BUT 10 MILLION YOU SAY IS 1,617%. SO 10 MILLION IS ABOUT 8%. YEAH. BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING. YEAH 30 SOMETHING MILLION. YEAH. AND IF I COULD ADD JUST ALSO TO A LITTLE SHOUT OUT TO MARK OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, HE'S ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED CHANGING SOME OF OUR POLICIES. SO WE HAD SOME UNFUNDED TYPES OF LIABILITIES SITTING OUT THERE. AND OVER THE YEARS, HE'S PUT SOME POLICIES IN PLACE THAT YOU COUNCIL HAVE APPROVED THAT HELPS REDUCE SOME OF THAT LIABILITY.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT MARK. BUT BUT HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB AT TRYING TO REDUCE THAT LIABILITY THROUGH POLICIES THAT ARE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. WE JUST TRY TO GET BETTER A LITTLE LITTLE THINGS, YOU KNOW, ENSURING THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDS THAT HAVE NEGATIVE CASH BALANCES ON A CONTINUAL BASIS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONSTANTLY MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH BALANCES OUT THERE, REPLACEMENT STUFF. SO WE DO DO THINGS TO TRY AND MINIMIZE OUR EXPOSURE. BUT IF I IF YOU WERE TO TELL ME, DO I FEEL GREAT, I FEEL GOOD, I DON'T FEEL GREAT, RIGHT? WE'RE DOING BETTER THAN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITIES. WE'RE NOT HAVING TO VET A LOT OF THINGS OUT AND PLUS WE'RE NOT THE PROGRAMS. EVERYONE WANTS TO DO THAT, AND WE'RE DISCIPLINED ENOUGH TO DO IT. RIGHT. AND I MEAN, WE'VE SEEN DECEMBERS WHERE WE HAD DOWN TO TENS OF THOUSANDS. WE'VE BEEN NEGATIVE. YEAH, YEAH. IT'S BEEN THERE'S BEEN SOME ROUGH YEARS. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REPORT.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT ONE. BUT WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN IN THE BUDGET CONTEXT FAIRLY SOON.

[City Attorney]

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THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE TWO PERMITS IS THAT WITH LIQUOR CATERING PERMIT, YOU CAN SERVE LIQUOR, BEER OR WINE, BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT FROM SOMEBODY WHO HAS A LICENSE TO DISPENSE THAT BEVERAGE ON PREMISES SOMEWHERE. SO YOU NEED TO HAVE A BAR OWNER TYPICALLY COME AND SELL THAT AND DISPENSE IT FOR YOU. THE CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT IS AN EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE OF HAVING SOMEONE WHO HAS A LICENSE DISPENSE IT. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SIFTON'S DO A LIVE AFTER FIVE. THEY DON'T HAVE A LICENSED PERSON COME AND DO THE DISPENSING, OR RATHER THEY DON'T NEED TO. THEY CAN DISPENSE IT THEMSELVES, BUT THEY CAN ONLY SERVE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DEFINED AS BEER AND WINE AND BEER AND WINE HAVE A PARTICULAR DEFINITION IN THE STATE CODE. IT ISN'T JUST BEER IS NOT JUST A DRINK THAT'S MADE FROM BARLEY, HOPS. AND WINE IS NOT JUST FERMENTED GRAPES. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL THAT'S IN THE BEVERAGE ITSELF.

SO YOU CAN HAVE MAYBE A WINE COOLER THAT'S GOT UNDERNEATH THE I THINK IT'S 7% OF ALCOHOL. THAT WOULD BE BEER EVEN THOUGH IT'S A WINE. SO DON'T GET TOO HUNG UP ON THOSE TERMS. THEY RELATE TO THE CONCENTRATION OF ALCOHOL THAT'S IN THE BEVERAGE. SO WITH THESE CHANGES WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS A FEW ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD REPEATED. COME UP WITH THE ALCOHOL PERMITTING. THIS IS THE TEMPORARY PERMITTING FOR EVENTS ON THE LICENSED PREMISES. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT WE'VE HAD A DISPUTE BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND THE INTERPRETATION OF THE ORDINANCE ON WHAT A ALCOHOL PERMIT CONSTITUTES, WHETHER IT CONSTITUTES WHAT WE CALL A CHANGE IN USE. CHANGE IN USE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT DETERMINES ON WHETHER YOU NEED TO BUILD A BUILDING OR A PROPERTY INTO CODE, OR WHETHER YOU CONSTITUTING A ZONING VIOLATION BY USING YOUR PROPERTY IN A CERTAIN WAY. FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THE CITY HAS NOT INTERPRETED THE TEMPORARY EVENTS PERMITTING AS AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A CHANGE IN USE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT AND BROAD DISAGREEMENT WITHIN THE CITY ON WHETHER THAT CONSTITUTES A CHANGE IN USE. IT'S RESULTED IN SOME DENIED PERMITS. I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE GOTTEN PHONE CALLS FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE HAD PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR YEARS, SUDDENLY GET DENIED BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM OR THEY AREN'T ZONED FOR THE FOR THE DISPENSING OF ALCOHOL. IT'S BEEN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENTS LEGAL OPINION THAT THE TEMPORARY SERVICE OF ALCOHOL

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SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A FEW NIGHTS AGO, OR I SHOULD SAY A FEW WEEKS AGO, YOU HEARD A VARIANCE TO THE TO THE RULE THAT YOU CANNOT ISSUE A TEMPORARY PERMIT TO DISPENSE ALCOHOL WITHIN 300FT OF A HOUSE OF WORSHIP OR A SCHOOL. AND DURING THAT DISCUSSION, COUNCIL ASKED IF THIS WAS A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT OR WHY IT WAS WE WERE DOING IT. THERE IS A STATE LAW REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN YOU ISSUE A LICENSE FOR THE PERMANENT ALCOHOL BUSINESS, THAT YOU CANNOT BE WITHIN 300FT OF A SCHOOL OR A HOUSE OF WORSHIP WITHOUT A VARIANCE HEARING. HOWEVER, THERE IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENTS. IT APPEARS THAT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL CREATED THAT RULE TO GO A LITTLE FARTHER THAN THE STATE GOES, AND INCLUDED IT IN ADDITION TO SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. IT MAKES IT CLEAR IN THE LANGUAGE, HOWEVER, BECAUSE MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT SEEK THE SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS ARE SOMETIMES HOUSES OF WORSHIP THEMSELVES. SO IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT IF YOU'RE A HOUSE OF WORSHIP COMING TO ASK FOR ONE OF THOSE PERMITS, YOU DO NOT NEED TO GO TO THE VARIANCE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF WHETHER IT'S NECESSARY. THIS DRAFT BEFORE YOU TODAY WOULD REMOVE THAT VARIANCE PROCEDURE FOR PERMITS, BUT RETAINS IT FOR BUSINESSES AS REQUIRED BY STATE CODE. THE THIRD SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THAT IS COMING BEFORE YOU IS THAT THERE ARE SOME DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE ALCOHOL CATERING, OR I SHOULD SAY, THE CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT AND THE CITY'S PERMITTED EVENTS THAT MAY HAPPEN IN PARKS. THERE IS A SEPARATE CHAPTER IN OUR CODE THAT GOVERNS WHEN SOMEONE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT ON CITY OWNED PROPERTY IN WHICH THEY SERVE ALCOHOL. WE CALL THIS A PERMITTED EVENT. THERE ARE SOME DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE RULES FOR PERMITTING EVENTS AND THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU MUST GET TO GET A CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT. THIS WOULD ALIGN THE CHANGES THERE AND GET RID OF THE DISCREPANCIES. FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE DISCREPANCIES IS THERE'S A LIMITATION FOR THE SERVING OF ALCOHOL IN NOISE PARK UNDER A CHARITABLE EVENT PERMIT. IT'S NOT PRESENT IN THE PERMITTED EVENTS AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT HOURS OF SERVICE. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE CLERK, IT'S A NIGHTMARE TO TELL THE APPLICANT WHAT THE RULES ARE THAT ARE GOING TO APPLY. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO SOME OF THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE SANDY DOWNS, ALCOHOL PAST THE HOUR OF 5:00 IN THE AFTERNOON, YOU CAN NO LONGER SERVE IT IN AN AREA LARGER THAN 1250FT■S. SO YOU CAN'T DO IT, BUT YOU'RE LIMITED TO A SMALLER AREA AFTER 5:00.

WHY? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK WE DID THAT PIECEMEAL AS WE WERE COMING ALONG, DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT NEEDED DIFFERENT THINGS. SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN HERE WITH THE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IS ALIGNING SOME OF THOSE THINGS. A FOURTH SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, AND THIS IS THE LAST ONE. AND THEN I'LL STAND FOR QUESTIONS, IS THAT WITH A LIVE AFTER FIVE THERE'S A LIMITATION ON WHERE THE DISPENSING AREA CAN BE AROUND THE RIVERWALK STAGE TO 150FT.

AND THAT'S A DIFFICULT AREA TO DO THIS SORT OF EVENT THEY'D LIKE TO DO. SO ONE OF THE PROPOSALS THAT'S IN THE APPLICATION, IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD BE TO DOUBLE THAT TO 300FT■S, PROVIDED THAT T DID NOT ENCROACH UPON THE PATHWAY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS

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NOTHING THAT'S IN HERE IS ANYTHING THAT STAFF HAS A SUPER STRONG POSITION ON. IT IS YOUR ORDINANCE, AND IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE CHANGED OR MOVED AROUND, OR WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT. IF IT'S NOT READY TO GO, WE CAN WAIT. BUT I DID THINK IN PART BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING THIS STAFF DISPUTE, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GET COUNSEL'S OPINION ON THE LICENSING VERSUS PERMITTING, CHANGE OF USE DISCUSSION AT THE VERY LEAST. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WAS A LOT. SO FOUR DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES HERE. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM OBJECTIVE BY OBJECTIVE AND SEE WHAT THERE ARE CONCERNS. OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO START ASKING QUESTIONS AT RANDOM. LET'S TAKE THE FIRST ONE AND THEN AND GO TO THE DISPUTE BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT A CHARITABLE PERMIT APPLICATION TRIGGERS THAT CHANGE OF USE ANALYSIS, OR IF, IN FACT, WE MIGHT WANT TO RETURN TO THE MORE TRADITIONAL VIEW WHERE IT WAS JUST INTENDED TO BE A ONE TIME OR A SINGLE LOOK AT THE CAPACITY OF THAT BUILDING COUNSELOR. YEAH, I LIKE THAT CHANGE. I THINK IT'S BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. I LIKE IT A LOT. I THINK I WOULD GO ONE STEP FURTHER, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD AGREE. BUT I'VE HAD JUST AS MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS. THERE ARE SOME RETAIL TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NO INTENTION OF EVER SERVING ALCOHOL AND PROFITING FROM IT, AND YET THEY MIGHT AT TIME TO TIME HAVE EVENTS WHERE. SO I WONDER IF THERE'S SOME WAY TO CARVE THAT OUT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOT THE SAME KIND OF FEEL AS A NONPROFIT OR A MUSEUM OR A LIBRARY. THOSE INTO THEIR INTENT, MEANING, LET'S SAY, THE ART MUSEUM OF IDAHO, BUT MIGHT BE FAIRLY TRADITIONAL, BUT THEY CHARGE FOR, YOU KNOW, TO COME IN, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SERVING ALCOHOL, LIKE EVERY DAY. BUT IF THEY'RE DOING AN EVENT, THEY MAY WANT TO, OR A SKATING RINK MIGHT BE A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAVE NO INTENTION BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE SKATING RINK FOR KIDS. THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE ALCOHOL AND HAVE FIGHTS AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS. BUT IF SOMEONE RENTS THAT HALL, THEN I FEEL LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PERMIT IT AND NOT HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR USE AND PUT IN SPRINKLERS AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS. THAT'S MY THAT'S ONE QUESTION I HAVE. SO THIS SHOULD ACHIEVE THAT OBJECTIVE. THE REASON, BY THE WAY, DOES HAVE A LICENSE TO SERVE ALCOHOL. SO THEY THEY DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS BETTER. YEAH. FOR A PLACE LIKE A SKATING RINK, THIS WOULD MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT A TEMPORARY PERMIT WOULD NOT CONVERT IT FROM A, AS LONG AS THEY APPLIED THE RIGHT THING. RIGHT, YOU'D HAVE TO COME IN AND APPLY FOR IT. IT DOES INCLUDE THE APPLIED FOR THE PERMIT, NOT THE LICENSE BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING NOT TO DO. YEAH. IF YOU APPLY FOR A LICENSE THAT MIGHT TRIGGER A CHANGE IN USE ANALYSIS, IT SHOULD. AND BECAUSE THE IT WOULD GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO SERVE ALCOHOL ALL THE TIME.

NOW YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE THE ART MUSEUM DOES, OR I SHOULD SAY THE AUDITORIUM, FOR EXAMPLE. THEY DO NOT SERVE ALCOHOL ALL THE TIME, BUT THEY DO FOR SOME EVENTS WHY THEY'VE CHOSEN TO GET A LICENSE, AS OPPOSED TO COMING IN AND GETTING A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, IF YOU'RE DOING IT ENOUGH, YOU MIGHT MAKE THAT CHOICE RIGHT? AND YOU MEET THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS. THEN I THINK FOR CONVENIENCE SAKE AND NOT FOR CONVENIENCE SAKE, THAT PROBABLY WORKS REALLY WELL FOR THEM. AND THAT WAY THEY DON'T NEED TO COME AND ASK FOR PERMISSION EVERY TIME THEY'D LIKE TO DO IT. SO. BUT YEAH, OKAY. SO THAT WAS WHERE I GOT CONFUSED. SO A YEARLY PERMIT IS A LICENSE. SO YEAH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THOSE TWO TERMS CLEAR. SO IN OUR CODE THE WORD LICENSE MEANS THAT YOU ARE OPERATING A MORE OR LESS PERMANENT ALCOHOL BUSINESS WHERE YOU CAN OPERATE SERVING ALCOHOL I WON'T SAY 356. YEAH. THERE'S OTHER RULES. THERE'S SOME LIMITS ON IT. BUT YOU BASICALLY ANY OTHER TIME THAT ANYBODY ELSE CAN SERVE ALCOHOL YOU CAN TOO.

THAT'S WHAT A LICENSE GIVES YOU. A PERMIT ON THE OTHER HAND IS FOR IS TIED TO A SPECIAL EVENT.

IT'S TEMPORARY IN NATURE. IN OUR TOWN IT IS THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS. NO MORE NO LESS. WHILE YOU CAN DO LESS. SORRY, BUT IT CAN'T BE. YOU CAN'T DO MORE. AND THAT'S HOW THAT IS. IS THAT'S WHAT THAT TERM PERMIT MEANS. THE TERM LICENSE MEANS SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT AND ONGOING. SO I, I WOULD SAY I MEAN, IF WE TALK ABOUT PLACES THAT I FEEL LIKE COULD GET A LICENSE BECAUSE THEY DON'T. TO GO IN AND GET A THREE CONSECUTIVE, YOU KNOW, DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY, KEEP COMING

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MAINLY IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE BOWLING ALLEYS. IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE. BALLPARK BALLPARKS.

IT INCLUDES LOTS OF DIFFERENT KIND OF GATHERING SPACES. AND IT INCLUDES DANCE HALLS THAT DON'T HAVE A FOOD COMPONENT TO IT, FOR EXAMPLE. SO THE THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE GRAY AREA IS, IS WHEN ARE YOU HAVING A CATEGORY THREE ENTERTAINMENT? CHURCHES ARE ON THAT LIST TOO, BY THE WAY IN THAT A THREE GROUP. SO THAT'S WHERE IT MIGHT TRIGGER A CHANGE IN USE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSFORM THE BUSINESS INTO ONE THAT PERMANENTLY SERVES ALCOHOL, THAT MIGHT CHANGE YOUR CLASSIFICATION WOULD ALLOW THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THE FIRE MARSHAL TO EVALUATE WHETHER YOU'VE CHANGED THE USE. IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT YOUR USE WILL BE CHANGED. UP TO THIS POINT, THE CITY WAS, OR I SHOULD SAY UP TO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. THAT IS HOW THE CITY WAS APPROACHING THESE ISSUES. AND THEN ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THE SOME SOME FOLKS IN CITY STAFF MADE THE DECISION THAT EVERY SORT OF ALCOHOL CHANGE PROMPTED A CHANGE OF USE. AND WE WERE FINDING MANY TIMES THAT IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OPINION, WE MOVED FROM CATEGORY THREE TO A CATEGORY TWO USE THAT SUDDENLY PROMPTED SPRINKLING. THAT'S WHERE YOU START TO GET THE PHONE CALLS ON. SO THIS DOESN'T GUARANTEE THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S GETTING A LICENSE, BUT IT WILL REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR CHANGE OF USE. REGARDS TO ALCOHOL, BECAUSE WE DON'T GET THAT MANY PERMANENT LICENSE APPLICATIONS. WE MAINLY GET

[02:10:03]

YEAH. I'M WONDERING WHY. THE REASON WHY WE DO THAT IS IT MIRRORS THE STATE CODE. IF YOU GO AND READ THE STATE CODE, YOU'LL ALSO FIND THAT THERE'S A CHAPTER DEDICATED TO LIQUOR, THERE'S A CHAPTER DEDICATED TO BEER, AND THERE'S A CHAPTER DEDICATED TO WINE. OKAY. AND THEN MUCH OF THIS, THE CHAPTERS REPEAT THEMSELVES. SO? SO IT MIRRORS STATE CODE. WE DID TAKE A CRACK AT TRYING TO GET THIS ALL UNDER ONE CHAPTER AT ONE POINT. I'M NOT. WE'LL DO WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS. NO, AS LONG AS I KNOW NOW THAT IT MIRRORS STATE CODE. IT WAS JUST CONFUSING. IT IS HOW I WAS LOOKING AT THIS. IT IS AWFUL, CONFUSING AND AS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL NOTE IN HERE IS THAT THERE'S SOME SMALL CHANGES THAT SEEM LIKE GOING ON. SO LET'S JUST TO KIND OF AS I WAS GOING THROUGH IT, IDENTIFYING ISSUES WHERE THERE WAS CONFLICTS TO TRY TO ELIMINATE. SO CHAPTER THREE IS SPECIFIC TO BEER. CHAPTER FOUR IS SPECIFIC TO ONE.

SO I DO THINK THERE'S VALUE NOT IN CONSOLIDATING BUT IN KEEPING THEM TO MIRROR THE STATE CODE, SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN CHANGES ARE MADE IN THE STATE CODE, WE CAN MAKE OUR STRAIGHT ACROSS. AND IT JUST SIMPLIFIES THAT, THAT THAT PROCESS WHICH COMPLIANCE CAN BE TRICKY IF WE HAVE A COMPLEX UPDATE GOING ON. YEAH, I AGREE THAT THERE'S NO LIMIT ON HOW MANY TEMPORARY PERMITS A VENUE COULD ASK FOR. NO, THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IN THIS CHANGE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT IN STAFF, AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD SOME DISCUSSION FROM STAFF ABOUT THAT IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE IS A LIMIT ON HOW MANY PERMITS YOU COULD GET IN HERE. AND SO IF YOU WERE PROPOSING OUTDOOR EVENTS WITH YOUR TEMPORARY PERMIT, IT'S ALL VERY SIMPLE. IF YOU'RE PROPOSING INDOOR EVENTS, THEN YOU HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE

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TWO BUSINESS DAYS. TWO BUSINESS DAYS REQUIREMENT, AND THAT WAY IT WOULD BE CLEAR TO EVERYONE THAT IF THEY CAME IN THE DAY OF, THEY WOULD BE DENIED. THE GUY COMES IN ON A FRIDAY AT 10 A.M.

AND HIS THINGS ON SATURDAY, RIGHT? OR OR EVEN A COME IN ON FRIDAY AT NOON. AND THE THING'S NOT TILL SATURDAY, BUT WE'RE NOT OPEN ON SATURDAY. RIGHT. SO IT DOES HAPPEN. AND WE THERE HAVE BEEN ALCOHOL PERMIT APPROVALS SCRAMBLES IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE I DON'T KNOW, HAVE YOU HAD TO LIVE THROUGH ONE YET? WE'VE HAD A COUPLE BUT THEY'RE IT'S JUST THEY COME IN, WE KNOW THEY'RE LAST MINUTE AND WE JUST MAKE THEM HAPPEN. YEAH I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE. YOU MAY IF YOU WANT. IT'S NOT, IN MY VIEW, A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THERE'S A SCRAMBLE, BUT IT'S NOT. AND IT'S SOMETIMES IS THE REPEATING CUSTOMER. BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT ROUTINE. THE REASON I WOULD DO IT IS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO SAVE THE CLERK'S OFFICE FROM BEING THE BAD GUY, RIGHT? THAT THAT THEY WOULD BE THE ONE THAT WERE BLAMED, THAT THAT THIS WEDDING GOT RUINED BECAUSE YOU WERE LATE GETTING TO THE DESK FOR IT. SO, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT THE CLERK'S OFFICE, I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE IF WE PUT A 48 HOUR OR A TWO DAY, TWO BUSINESS DAYS OR MY THOUGHT AND THAT IS THAT IF WE PUT A LIMIT OF SOME KIND IN THERE, THEN IF THERE IS A SUPER SLOW PERIOD WHERE THE CLERK'S OFFICE COULD MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN, AND THEY BEGIN OCCASIONALLY MAKING THINGS HAPPEN IN LESS THAN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, THEN. SOMEHOW AS WE ERODE OUR OWN CREDIBILITY, AS WE CONTINUALLY OVERPERFORM FROM WHAT OUR CODE SAYS. AND AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY COULD SAY, YOU GUYS ARE ALWAYS GIVING SO-AND-SO THAT EXCEPTION AND THAT YOU'RE NOT GIVING IT TO ME. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD PUT DIFFERENT LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT JUST SAYS THE APPROVAL PROCESS OR THOSE TASKS WITH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WILL SEEK TO TURN THESE REQUESTS AROUND AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. HOWEVER, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN IT'S DIFFICULT TO COMMUNICATE WITH ALL THE OFFICES. AND IN THOSE CASES, YOU KNOW, 48 HOUR LIMIT IS OR WHATEVER ADVANCE NOTICE IS RECOMMENDED OR SOMETHING, SO THAT WE DEMONSTRATE THAT WE'RE TRYING, BUT THAT WE CAN'T DELIVER IT EVERY TIME. I THINK WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THAT IN ORDINANCE, JUST HAVE THE CLERK PUT IT ON THE APPLICATION. OH, PERFECT.

PERFECT. AND THAT WAY, IF THERE IS A REASON TO FAST TRACK A PERMIT, THE CLERK HAS THE FLEXIBILITY OF DOING THAT. AND NOBODY CAN POINT TO THE CODE AS SOMETHING THAT THE CLERK HAS TO DO. AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT MOST OF THE WORK THAT CLERK DOES IS WHAT WE CALL MINISTERIAL, WHICH MEANS THAT CLERK DOES NOT REALLY HAVE A CHOICE. THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING INTO EFFECT WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS AUTHORIZED. SO IT MAY BE MORE HELPFUL TO JUST HAVE IT ON THE APPLICATION SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WITHIN TWO BUSINESS DAYS OF YOUR EVENT.

WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT FAST TRACK YOU OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE. WE COULD TWEAK THAT AND WORK ON IT. YEAH. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. I WASN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT THAT OPTION. AND WE COULD LEAVE IT WITH THE MESSAGE TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS THAT IF THEY GET OVERWHELMED, THEY COULD COME BACK AND WE'LL DO WHAT'S NEEDED TO HELP. SURE. AND AGAIN, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE REMEDY IS FOR SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T GET THEIR PERMIT FAST ENOUGH AS THEY COME AND THEY CAN COMPLAIN TO COUNCIL. AND THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL CAN USE ITS JUDGMENT ON WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY WAS BEING REASONABLE, OR WHETHER THE CLERK WAS REALLY DELINQUENT IN PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF PERHAPS THIS FIRST ELEMENT, WHICH THE WHOLE CHANGE OF USE CONVERSATION. ARE THERE DISCUSSIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON THE. I'M SORRY. NOW I'M FORGETTING MAKING THE HOURS OF OPERATION COMPLY WITH THE STATE'S HOUR OR MAKING THE STATE'S HOURS OUR DEFAULT, EXCEPT FOR IN THOSE LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE SPECIFIED DIFFERENT TIMES FOR SERVICE. ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT? WELL, THAT WAS GOOD. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE ISSUE OF DISTANCE, LET'S MAKE JUST SPEND A FEW MINUTES TALKING ABOUT THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING HITTING THE RIGHT NOTE ON THAT ONE. AND SO DOES IT STILL SAY I MISSED WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. I WAS LOOKING UP SOMETHING ELSE, COUNSELOR, AND I MISSED WHETHER IT WAS STILL 300FT OR IF WE MOVED IT TO SOMETHING ELSE. I THINK. 150 OKAY, SO I JUST HAVE A WORRY THAT THAT PUTS PEOPLE INTO OUT WAY OUTSIDE OF THE

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IS THAT RECOMMENDED. COUNCIL ACTION IS AT THE END OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OKAY. WELL THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT MOTION AFTER WE THEN MOVE INTO THIS.

[Mayor and City Council]

ALSO WANTED TO JUST CATCH YOU UP ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE IS THAT I PUT AT YOUR PLACE THE PROGRAM. I CAN'T FIND MY PROGRAM FROM THE PEACE OFFICERS MEMORIAL EVENT ON LAST FRIDAY NIGHT. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT PEACE OFFICERS WEEK, TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO GO TO THAT, ONLY BECAUSE IT'S RATHER MOVING TO HEAR THE NAMES READ AND TO LISTEN TO THE.

COMMENTS AND TALKS THAT ARE GIVEN BY MEMBERS OF THE BONNEVILLE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE IDAHO FALLS POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY HAD VERY NICE FLAG CEREMONY THAT WAS DONE BY THREE AGENCIES. THE TWO I JUST MENTIONED, PLUS IDAHO STATE POLICE AND BOY, THEY HAD SOME AN OUTSTANDING QUARTET OF SINGERS FROM ONE OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS. WHICH ONE WAS IT? I DON'T QUALIFY HIGH SCHOOL. WOW. FANTASTIC. FANTASTIC RENDITION OF THE STAR-SPANGLED BANNER. SO THERE'S THAT. I ALSO WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT EARLIER TODAY, THE JOINT FINANCE DAY BACK, JOINT FINANCE APPROPRIATION APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE MET IN IDAHO FALLS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO THIS TRAVELING MEETING THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND ALWAYS COME TO IDAHO FALLS, OR IF THEY ONLY COME HERE OCCASIONALLY, AND IF THEY TRAVEL TO LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE INTERMITTENTLY. I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN ON THAT. BUT TODAY THEY DETERMINED TO HAVE THEIR MEETING AT CEI AND PRIOR TO THE START, THE OFFICIAL START OF THEIR BUSINESS. THE BUSINESS PORTION OF THEIR MEETING, I CEI HOSTED A LUNCHEON THERE THAT HAD A BIT OF A PROGRAM ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND IT WAS A GOOD PROGRAM. CATHERINE AND I WERE THERE. THEY FOCUSED ON TALKING QUITE A BIT.

THEY HAD A PANEL OF EMPLOYERS WHO WERE TALKING QUITE A BIT ABOUT HOW CEI HELPS THEM. THEIR WORKFORCE CONCERNS. IT'S A GOOD COMPREHENSIVE WORKFORCE CONVERSATION, STAGED IN A WAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF JFAC TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY FELT THANKED AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THE VALUE OF LAUNCH. THEY UNDERSTOOD THE VALUE OF SO MANY OF THE PROGRAMS THAT CEI OFFERS. BUT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS MAYBE BUILT TO FOCUS ON THINGS THAT THEY THAT CEI FELT THAT GOT TO HEAR, IT WAS STILL A GOOD REVIEW. AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEY HAD WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MAYBE ABOUT 30 MINUTES, BUT IT WENT A LITTLE LONGER. JUST SOME OVERVIEW MESSAGES THAT WERE GIVEN. THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A YOUNG WOMAN WHO HAD 80 STUDENTS. THEY BROUGHT ONE WOMAN. YOUNG WOMAN WHO GRADUATED WITH A HER ASSOCIATES EVEN BEFORE SHE LAST WEEK, EVEN BEFORE SHE GETS HER HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA. THIS WEEK, 80 STUDENTS ARE IN THAT BOAT THIS YEAR. SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING FOR JFAC TO HEAR. AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL LITTLE PAT ON THE BACK. THE WOMAN WHO HAS BEEN PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT SENATE ALSO GAVE SOME REMARKS. SHE HAS A REMARKABLE STORY, AND IT'S A FIRST GENERATION IMMIGRANT. SHE HAS DONE SOME REALLY PATHBREAKING WORK. SHE'S A MOTHER OF TWO CHILDREN, SO SHE'S A NONTRADITIONAL STUDENT AND JUST REALLY A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE.

THEY ALSO WE HEARD FROM THE WELDING PROGRAM TALKING ABOUT THEIR THE NEEDS THEY HAVE FOR NEW EQUIPMENT. BUT THE 75% OF ALL BUSINESSES THAT REQUIRE WELDING, NO. EXCUSE ME, OF ALL

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AND THE. AS A RESULT, THEY HAVE DECIDED TO GIVE THE VIKINGS AN AUTOMATIC BERTH IN THE 2026 DENNY CUP PLAYOFFS. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO PLAY IN. THEY JUST GET TO PLAY IN. YEAH, WE HOPE THEY DO CHOOSE TO EARN IT AND PLAY THEIR LITTLE HEARTS OUT ALL SEASON, BUT THEY WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE IN AND IT'S PARTLY A NOD. IT IS A DIRECT NOD TO THE FAN BASE HERE, AND THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT FAN BASE SUPPORTING THE EVENT, EVEN THOUGH AND THIS ALL CAME ABOUT AFTER THE BIG CELEBRATION THAT WE HAD, AFTER THE BIG TREES, AND WE WERE AWARDED THE DINEEN CUP BACK IN JANUARY. SO ALL OF THIS IS JUST COMING ABOUT LATER, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON IT, I CAN SEND YOU A PRESS RELEASE. I DIDN'T, I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD ANNOUNCE IT HERE, BUT I CAN SEND YOU THAT. VIA TEXT ANYWAY, THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW OUR FACILITY FILLS ITS SEATS FOR SPIKE KING GAMES AND OTHER FACILITIES HAVE A HARD TIME FILLING SECTIONS OF THEIR OF THEIR SPACE. SO. OR THEY ONLY HAVE SPACES MAYBE AS BIG AS WHAT OUR HOCKEY SHELTER USED TO BE BACK WHEN WE CALLED IT THE HOCKEY SHELTER ATOP THE PARK. SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE. LET ME KNOW IF YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE. I BELIEVE FARMERS MARKET IS UNDERWAY, AND THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING. AND AIC, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S ATTENDING, BUT JIM IS IN CHARGE OF THE DINNER FOR ALL THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS ATTENDEES. WE ALSO LET ME KNOW THAT A GROUP DINNER ON WEDNESDAY. SO HE'LL BE PLANNING THAT FOR US. I HAVE A HARD TIME COMING UP WITH NICE VENUES AND JIM DOESN'T. SO AND THEN I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE APPLIED FOR MULTIPLE AWARDS, AND IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO KNOW THE CRITERIA FOR HOW THEY MAKE THE AWARDS. I'VE ONLY HEARD SO FAR ABOUT ONE, AND THAT IS, I DID GET AN AWARD FOR THE NOW I FORGOT WHAT THEY SAY WORDS. SAY IT AGAIN. THE POLICE ARE GETTING A AWARD OR AWARD FOR THEIR COPE PROGRAM. THEIR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM. THANK YOU. YES. COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAM. WHAT IS THE. ROOM? STIFFLER AND I DON'T KNOW. OH, THE CODE RESPONSE THING. YES. YES OKAY. YES AND YES. YES. YEAH. THEY'RE GETTING A COMMUNITY ACHIEVEMENT AWARD. SO ANYWAY, THAT IS ENOUGH TO BE PROUD OF. SO THOSE OF YOU

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BUT WE'RE NOT INVOLVED IN THE LIBRARY DISTRICT. WE ARE. WE'RE ALL BONNEVILLE COUNTY RESIDENTS THERE. SPECIFIC SEAT ISN'T IN IT. IS THAT THE WAY THAT I WOULD THEY STARTED TO BREAK APART. I QUESTIONED THAT VERY SAME THING. IT WAS LIKE, WHY? WHY DO THEY GET TO BREAK APART WHEN WE'RE ALL BONNEVILLE COUNTY? THEY SAID THAT THAT LIBRARY DISTRICT IS LISTED VERY SEPARATELY ON THEIR TAX LEVY, AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE LIBRARY DISTRICT INVOLVED IN OUR TAX LEVY. ISN'T IT A LITTLE LIKE THE FIRE DISTRICT, THE FIRE DISTRICT COUNTY, VERY SEPARATE. SO, BOY, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DAY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR WE ONLY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE JAIL AND NOT FOR BONNEVILLE COUNTY RURAL SHERIFF SERVICES AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY. ANYWAY, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT TAKEN A LITTLE FURTHER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE REST OF YOU. WE'LL GO AROUND. WE'LL START WITH OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. ONE, FOR LEGAL IS JUST AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO ZACH IN THE PROSECUTING OF. HE JUST HAD A REALLY GOOD OUTCOME AS THEY WORKED THROUGH WITH INTERMOUNTAIN PACKING. SO THAT THAT WAS RESOLVED. AND HE HAD A HE WORKED VERY HARD ON THAT. HE GOT ON IT AND HE RESEARCHED IT AND HE REALLY GOT IT. HE TOOK AN ALFORD PLEA. RIGHT. GOOD. DID I SEND THAT IN A TEXT MESSAGE? YOU DID OKAY. YEP. AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS SOME OF YOU, MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN CONTACTED ABOUT GETTING A NEW FBO OR GETTING AN ADDITIONAL FBO AT THE AIRPORT. OKAY, SO THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF AN ONGOING ISSUE PRESSING UP AGAINST THE AIRPORT. BUT WITH THE MASTER PLAN, IAN'S BEEN ABLE TO JUST PUT THAT A LITTLE TO THE SIDE AND WORKING ON THE MASTER PLAN, BUT NOW IT IT KIND OF IS GETTING GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM FOR HEADSPACE TO LOOK AT AND FBO. YEAH, IF ANYBODY DOES CONTACT YOU AND YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU JUST POP UP WITH A RESPONSE TO THOSE FOLKS, DEFINITELY CHECK WITH IAN. YEAH. SO WE THEY HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET, I THINK, AN AGREEMENT OR HE'S WORKING ON AN AGREEMENT WITH A LEGAL FIRM THAT SPECIFICALLY WORKS FOR AIRPORTS SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE RIGHT LANGUAGE OUT IN IN AN RFP. WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT IN OUR AIRPORT BOARD MEETING. BUT I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LET PEOPLE KNOW IF THEY'RE BEING CONTACTED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW COME WE CAN'T GET THIS FBO TOMORROW? IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING MORE FORMAL SO THAT WE CAN SAY WHAT SERVICES WE WOULD EXPECT OUT OF FBO AT OUR AIRPORT A LITTLE MORE, AND RFP ISSUING AN RFP IS A BEST PRACTICE, AND WHETHER THE CITY HAS DONE IT IN THE PAST OR NOT. FOR FBO, WE'RE DOING IT NOW. AND SO IF ANYBODY HAS CONCERNS AND YOU'RE CONFUSED BY THEIR ARGUMENTATION, TAKE IT TO IAN BEFORE YOU RESPOND. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO THINGS. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON WHETHER THE SOCCER TOURNAMENT WAS A SUCCESS IN THAT WAS HELD A FEW A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, A HUGE A HUGE SUCCESS? IT WAS. I HAVEN'T HEARD WHETHER WHETHER PARKING AND ALL OF THAT WAS RESOLVED. I KNOW THAT LAST YEAR THEY RUINED SOME OF THE SPRINKLER HEADS, PARKING ON THE GRASS, PARKING ON THE GRASS. AND SO THEY WERE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY STAYED LIMITED. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST HEARD 250 TEAMS PARTICIPATED IN IDAHO FALLS SOCCER TOURNAMENT. THEY THEY USED EVERY POSSIBLE BLADE OF GRASS. AND A BIG THING THAT WAS FOR IDAHO FALLS COMMUNITY PARK AND THOMAS PARK WERE PACKED WITH PEOPLE. WOW. OKAY, OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. I HAVE SOME GOOD CRIME STATISTIC NUMBERS TO REPORT. SEVEN MONTHS IN A ROW. NOW, WE'VE HAD A DOWNWARD TREND IN VIOLENT CRIME, DOWN 12% YEAR TO DATE. WOW. AND ALSO TRAFFIC STOPS ARE UP 70%. THEY'VE MADE 1600 MORE TRAFFIC STOPS THIS YEAR THAN THEY DID LAST YEAR YEAR TO DATE. SO MIKE, HE'S GOT

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ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR MICHELLE, YOU HAVE. HI, JOHN. NOT REALLY. WE HAVE A NEW. YOU GUYS ALL SAW ON OUR MINUTES THAT WE GOT A NEW BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEMBER FOR THE LIBRARY, AND THAT'S A BIG DEAL, BECAUSE HAL HAD BEEN THERE IN 20 PLUS YEARS. SO HE GOT SWORN IN.

AND THEY DID VERY WELL. THE LIBRARY DID VERY WELL ON THE ON THE SURVEY FOR THE CITY SERVICES. AND THANK YOU FOR SENDING THAT OUT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY GREAT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT AND HAVE TIME TO KIND OF LOOK THROUGH IT. AND THE LIBRARY ALSO DID CUT A RIBBON ON ITS NEW DRIVE THROUGH PICKUP. SO THAT DRIVE THROUGH PICKUP IS SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY STAY IN YOUR CAR. FOR SENIORS, THAT WOULD BE REALLY AWESOME. OR IF YOU HAVE A BABY IN THE CAR, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT OF THE CAR OR EVEN ILLNESS ILLNESS. AND DOES IT OPEN BEFORE THE LIBRARY DOORS THEMSELVES OPEN? IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS GOING TO OPEN BEFORE THAT. SO BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO DO IT AFTER HOURS. WELL, WE HAVE WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING IN THE MORNING. SO YOU PROBABLY COULD BE TRUE BUT I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPRESENT THERE OTHER THAN THAT WAS A MORE INTERESTING SECTION THAT WE WILL SPEND TIME ON. I THINK IN THE SURVEY THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT ARE INTERESTING ABOUT THE LAYOUT AND HOW PLANNING. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR.

THE JUNETEENTH EVENTS ARE COMING TOGETHER. THE 14TH, THE SATURDAY BEFORE, WILL BE A FESTIVAL MUSIC, MULTICULTURAL MUSIC. AND THEN BOOTHS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO EMPHASIZE THE HISTORY OF THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO IDAHO FALLS ON THE BASIS OF COMMONALITIES, BUILDS UNITY, REALLY BUILDING TOWARDS TRYING TO BUILD COMMUNITY. THE JAZZ SOCIETY HAS BEEN FANTASTIC AS A SPONSOR THIS YEAR. SO AND OF COURSE, THEY'LL PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME OF THE MUSIC.

AND THEN ON THE 19TH, WE HAVE CONFIRMED IT WILL BE IN THE COLONIAL AGAIN, ANOTHER MUSIC AND HISTORY CELEBRATION OF AFRICAN AMERICAN CONTRIBUTIONS, SO THAT THAT ONE AND THE MAYOR IS RUNNING NOT ONLY A PROCLAMATION FOR THAT DAY, BUT ALSO SHE'S PART OF THE PLAYSCRIPT PERFORMED THAT DAY. WE ALSO I KNOW SOMEONE WILL READ WHAT I WRITE. I SAW THE DAY I SEE. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE LAST YEAR THAT AISD IS GOING TO BE HELD OVER THE 19TH, SO WE WON'T HAVE THAT CONFLICT. THE WORRY IS THAT THEY'LL GO THE WEEK BEFORE, WHICH THEN WILL TYPICALLY WILL CONFLICT WITH WHAT IS IT CALLED? APA. AND THAT HAS HAPPENED IN YEARS PAST WHERE INSTEAD OF GOING HOME AFTER APA, YOU LEAVE APA EARLY AND FLY FROM WHATEVER SITE THAT IS TO BOISE, BOISE AND THEN HOME. SO IT'S POSSIBLE TO COMBINE THEM ALL. BUT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER YOU CAN NEVER GET WHAT YOU ASK FOR. IT'S ALWAYS GONNA BE. SO IT'S GOING TO BE WEIRD. AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE MIGHT BE AT THE END OF OUR MEETING. OR DID YOU HAVE MORE? I HAVE THAT MOTION ANYMORE. OKAY. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. GO FOR IT. I MOVE COUNCIL RECEIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MAY 6TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL LAND USE PLANNING ACT. SECOND, OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION READY FOR A VOTE.

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SO I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN STARTING FRIDAY EVENING AT 6 P.M. AND WE'LL BE GONE UNTIL THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, QUITE SOME TIME. AND MAYOR IS GONE. THE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT STEPPED IN, BUT THERE WILL BE A TIME WHEN COUNCILOR BURTONSHAW IS ALSO PRESENT, BUT SHE'S ALSO GONE. AND SO I TURN NEXT TO COUNCILOR MICHELLE DINGMAN. ARE YOU GOING TO BE IN TOWN BETWEEN THE SIXTH OF THE 6:06 P.M. ON FRIDAY THROUGH HALF DAY ON MONDAY? YEAH, YEAH, IT'S MEMORIAL WEEKEND. OH YEAH. SO THAT MIGHT COME AS LIKE YEAH. THIS WEEKEND CAME AS A SURPRISE FOR THE TIME WHEN I'M HERE. I AM ON AND LISA IS GONE. MICHELLE WILL BE THE ACTING MAYOR. SO WITH THAT I THINK WE'RE

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