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ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE MEETING AGAIN. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND INVITE THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL. AND BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE ROOM, OUR ONLINE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO HELP TO ESTABLISH OUR QUORUM. CITY CLERK, COUNCIL PRESIDENT BURTENSHAW HERE. COUNCILOR RADFORD SOUNDS LIKE HE'S RUNNING LATE. COUNCILOR ZEAL DINGMAN HERE, COUNCILOR FREEMAN HERE. COUNCILOR FRANCIS HERE.
COUNCILOR LARSON HERE. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR JOINING US. I KNOW YOU EACH HAVE REASONS FOR BEING GONE. AND SO THAT YOU'RE PARTICIPATING IS VERY IMPORTANT AND MEANINGFUL. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS ON THE AGENDA
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AT THE VERY BEGINNING. WE HAVE SOME GUESTS HERE WHO ARE HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IDAHO FALLS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION PLAN. AND SO I WOULD INVITE OUR CONTINGENT FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TO COME FORWARD AND TO INTRODUCE THIS WORK. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THE COUNCIL HAS NOT HAD A WE HAVE NOT HAD A PRESERVATION COMMISSION PLAN IN RECENT HISTORY. AND SO THERE'S MAYBE A NEED TO DO SOME BASIC EDUCATING AS TO WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE COMMISSION. AND I'M JUST HERE FOR INTRODUCTIONS. JUST SO WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE, WE WILL HAVE A TEST AFTERWARDS. YOU'LL HAVE TO REMEMBER WHO'S HERE. BUT JUST BEFORE US FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. WE DO HAVE CAITLIN LONG, OUR LONG RANGE PLANNER IN THE CDS, AS WELL AS MARY SCALES, WHO HAPPENS TO BE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE CHAIR. AND THEY WILL BE PRESENTING FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. GOING OVER THAT, WE ALSO HAVE THE SECOND ITEM JUST TO INTRODUCE SOMEONE BACK BEHIND ME, WE HAVE CHERYL O'BRIEN, WHO'S HERE FROM. SHE'S A REGIONAL REP FOR THE IDAHO STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. WE ALSO HAVE DAN EVERHART WHO'S THE. AND IF I MISSED THESE TITLES, FORGIVE ME. SO THE OUTREACH HISTORIAN WITH SHIPPO AND ASHLEY MALLOY, WHO'S OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW OFFICER FROM SHIPPO. SO THEY'RE HERE FOR THE Q&A SESSION. BUT THIS FIRST PART WILL JUST BE ABOUT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE INDIVIDUALS FROM SHIPPO FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS PROCESS. SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CAITLIN AND MARY HERE. ALL RIGHT. SO ARE YOU WANTING THOSE? MIGHT SHOW UP.YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU. WAIT JUST ONE SECOND AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE. THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE DRIVING NOW. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED AND WILL BE ON THE THURSDAY'S COUNCIL AGENDA FOR POTENTIAL ADOPTION. SO WE WERE BACK HERE IN DECEMBER TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN AND TO GO OVER SOME GENERAL INFORMATION, AND AT THAT POINT, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR PROCESS OF IT BEING DRAFTED AND PUBLIC OUTREACH. AND SO WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU TODAY TO KIND OF FOLLOW UP AND GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION. SO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW SCHEDULE OF HOW THIS PLAN CAME ABOUT. SO THIS PLAN WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED BY A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANT. IDAHO FALLS IS A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND THAT GRANT WAS APPLIED FOR IN JANUARY 2023. AND THIS IS ALSO A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW THESE GRANTS WORK. SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS PLAN IN THE FALL OF 2022. WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT IN JANUARY 2023. THE GRANT WAS AWARDED IN SUMMER OF 2023. BUT THE WAY THE FUNDING WORKS IS THAT SHIPPO WILL GIVE YOU AUTHORITY TO SPEND FUNDS ONCE THEY GET FUNDING FROM NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. SO THAT MEANT SO WHILE WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT IN SUMMER OF 2023, WE DID NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO SPEND, I THINK UNTIL THE END OF THAT YEAR. SO WE WORKED ON A PROPOSAL TO BID. WE WENT OUT TO BID TO DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS, AND WE SIGNED A CONTRACT IN THE WINTER OF 2024 WITH KIRK HUFFAKER, PRESERVATION STRATEGIES, AND HE HAD DONE A WORK FOR US BEFORE. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE IN WINTER 2024, WE DID A KICKOFF MEETING WITH HPC. THERE'S INITIAL RESEARCH THAT SPRING WAS FIELDWORK PHOTOGRAPHY, AND THEN WE LAUNCHED OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SURVEY IN THAT SPRING OF 2024, THE FIRST DRAFT WAS SUBMITTED IN NOVEMBER 6TH. IN THE FALL OF 2024, IT WAS REVIEWED BY SHIPPO STAFF AND THE COMMISSION. WE DID A SECOND DRAFT AND THAT WAS JANUARY 13TH AND THAT WAS A STAFF SHIPPO PUBLIC AND THE
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COMMISSION AS WELL. AN OPEN HOUSE WAS DONE ON THE 14TH OF JANUARY, WHICH WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT. AND THEN ON MARCH 6TH AT THE HPC MEETING, THE HPC RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PLAN TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE THE FINAL PLAT OR FINAL PLAT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I TYPED A LOT? FINAL DRAFT ON APRIL 1ST. AND THEN NOW WE'RE HERE AT A WORK SESSION. SO WE DID PUBLIC OUTREACH. AND THIS SLIDE YOU SEEN BEFORE IN DECEMBER WHERE WE DID A SURVEY. WE GOT ABOUT 200 RESPONSES. OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH CONTINUED WHEN WE DID AN OPEN HOUSE ON JANUARY 14TH, 2025, AND WE DID THAT. IT WAS A BEAUTIFULLY COLD WINTER DAY, AND WE HAD OVER 30 PEOPLE COME TO OUR OPEN HOUSE. WE DONE A LOT OF OPEN PUBLIC HOUSES AND MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY AWESOME TO SEE EVERYONE COME TO THAT. I WAS I WAS REALLY PROUD TO SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP. HISTORIC PRESERVATION, NOT A HIGH PRIORITY FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. SO TO SEE THE ROOM FULL, WE HAD PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, HPC MEMBERS, THE MUSEUM OF IDAHO MEMBERS. WE HAD HOMEOWNERS. THE MAYOR WAS THERE. WE HAD A REALLY GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. EVERYONE WAS VERY RESPECTFUL. IT WAS A WONDERFUL, ENGAGING CONVERSATION TO HAVE 30 PEOPLE IN A ROOM IN MY LINE OF WORK. AND EVERYONE IS HAVING A REALLY POSITIVE CONVERSATION.THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN A LOT. SO I WAS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT OUR OPEN HOUSE. AND THEN THAT ALSO KICKED OFF OUR SECOND DRAFT FOR THE PUBLIC IN JANUARY 2025. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH WITH SOME OF THE PUBLIC OUTREACH WE DID. AND THEN THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THE PLAN IS INFLUENCED BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THE PUBLIC STAFF, THE COMMISSION. AND SO THIS WAS JUST SOME OF THE TAKEAWAYS THAT THEY HAVE A HIGH INTEREST IN LOCAL HISTORY, THAT THERE'S ROOM TO GROW, THAT DOWNTOWN AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS SHOULD BE A FOCUS IN THE FUTURE. THE HPC SHOULD FOCUS THEIR WORK ON DOCUMENTATION, DESIGNATION, INTERPRETATION OF HISTORIC PLACES. A LOT OF IT IS WE ASK SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MISSING FROM HISTORIC LIKE FROM IDAHO FALLS HISTORY? SO THEY ARE LOOKING FOR CULTURAL AND RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY POST-WORLD WAR TWO. AND WE ALSO ASKED HOW THEY WANTED TO RECEIVE INFORMATION. AND THESE ARE THE OVERALL FOUR GOALS OF THE SURVEY THAT WE CAME UP WITH. SO THE FIRST ONE IS DESIGNATE AND SURVEY AREAS OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. GOAL TWO IS CULTIVATE COMMUNITY THROUGH EDUCATION AND PARTNERSHIPS. THREE IS COORDINATE WITH THE CITY PLANNING DIVISION TO IMPLEMENT EFFECTIVE PRESERVATION POLICIES AND INCENTIVES, AND THEN PROVIDE REGULAR AND EFFECTIVE TRAINING. SO THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO LEAN INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHY WE HAVE A PLAN. AND I WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IMAGINE. IMAGINE IF SO, WE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, RIGHT. AND IT HAS ACTIONS AND HAS TASKS IN IT AND HAS ASPIRATIONS. AND IT'S A PLAN THAT HELPS LEAD THE CITY AND THE DEPARTMENT AS WE MOVE THROUGH PLANNING. RIGHT. I WOULD THINK THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN IS IN A SIMILAR VEIN. WE HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, AND THIS PLAN GIVES THEM GOALS AND ASPIRATIONS AND GUIDANCE THROUGHOUT THE NEXT TEN YEARS. IT HELPS US ASK TO KNOW WHAT GRANTS TO ASK FOR. HELPS US FOR SECTION 106 MITIGATION. IT ALSO HELPS STAFF AND THE COMMISSION JUST WORK TOGETHER MORE EFFICIENTLY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND SO I BROUGHT UP THIS MAP. THIS IS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND JUST KIND OF SOME FACTS. WE SEPARATED THE WE SEPARATED THE CITY, AS YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, INTO FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS. RIGHT. SO AREA ONE IS KIND OF THE CORE OF THE CITY, THAT HISTORICAL CORE REALLY. AND THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE LETTERED STREETS, THE HOUSES BY THE BALL FIELD, THE WEST SIDE AND DOWNTOWN.
RIGHT. SO IN THE COMP PLAN, THIS IS FROM HOW SECTION ONE OR AREA ONE BUILDING AGE OF HOUSING UNITS. SO THE PLAN GOES BACK TO REALLY THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF 50 YEARS OR OLDER, WHICH MEANS ANYTHING 1975 OR OLDER WOULD BE CONSIDERED HISTORIC. AND THIS PLAN COVERS TEN YEARS. SO THAT GOES UP TO ABOUT 1985, WHICH, YES, IS HARD TO HEAR FOR THOSE IN THE WERE BORN IN THE 80S. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS IN AREA ONE ALONE, 88% OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OF THE HOUSING UNITS WERE BUILT IN 1979 OR BELOW. SO TECHNICALLY THOSE ARE HISTORIC RIGHT IN THE CITY. OVERALL, 58 OF YOUR 58% OF YOUR HOUSING UNITS ARE 1979 OR OLDER. SO THE MAJORITY OF YOUR HOUSING STOCK IS HITTING THAT HISTORICAL MARK. AND I SAY THIS IN A WAY THAT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE
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THE TOOLS TO CAPTURE OUR HISTORY OF OUR CITY AND OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT. SO THIS IS ALSO MIGHT BE FAMILIAR TO YOU. THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ACTION AND TASKS THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. THIS IS THE HOUSING FOR THE OVERALL AND THE HOUSING FOR AREA ONE. AND WE PUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION TASKS IN HERE. SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE FOCUSED ON. AND IF I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE TASKS FROM THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE KIRK DID A REALLY GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE THEME AND THE KIND OF THE CONTINUITY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN, AND IT REALLY KIND OF TIES IN TOGETHER. AND SO THESE PLANS COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER, AND THEY BOTH GIVE THE COMMISSION'S THE ABILITY TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD IN MORE APPOINTED DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, WHERE PRIOR WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE A PLAN. THE COMMISSION ALWAYS DID REALLY GOOD WORK, BUT SOMETIMES IT WAS HARD MAYBE TO KNOW WHICH DIRECTION TO GO, WHAT TO ASK FOR, FUNDING. THIS REALLY KIND OF MAKES IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE, I THINK, TO JUST KNOW WHERE TO FOCUS OUR ENERGY ON. AND SO THE NEXT PART IS, AND THE REASON I HAVE MARY UP HERE IS BECAUSE I WANTED HER TO TALK FROM THE COMMISSION STANDPOINT OF WHAT THEY HOPE TO DO WITH THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD. I THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. IDEALLY, THIS HELPS US TO SOLIDIFY SOME OF THE PATHS FORWARD FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS, RIGHT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRESERVATION OF RESOURCES THAT WE SEE EVERY DAY, ACTIONS THAT WE CAN TAKE AS A COMMISSION TO FACILITATE THE POTENTIAL GROWTH THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE ALREADY. I WORK FOR THE LABORATORY. WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIP. THIS PLAN IDENTIFIES WHAT THOSE PARTNERSHIPS CAN DO AND WHAT WE CAN REACH GOALS FOR BOTH PARTIES. AS AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THIS, OUR ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MUSEUM OF IDAHO IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN HERE AS A BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN TO THE CITY, BUT ALSO TO THE PUBLIC AS A MEANS OF REACHING MORE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AS CAITLIN MENTIONED, I HAVE SAT IN A NUMBER OF PUBLIC MEETINGS AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH A COMMUNITY COME AROUND.SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED IN THAT WORKSHOP WERE DIRECTLY PUT INTO THIS PLAN. THE NEXT FEW STEPS ARE TO SOLIDIFY SOME OF THE ASPECTS THAT YOU SEE HERE.
SURVEY OF CERTAIN AREAS. WE HAVE THOSE THOSE PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN SET WITHIN THIS. AND IT ALSO ALLOW FOR US TO LOOK WHEN OTHER FUND SOURCES ARE COMING IN TO THE CITY TO IDENTIFY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. WE DON'T HAVE TO IDENTIFY THOSE. THEY'RE SET FOR US. AND I THINK THAT THAT WILL HELP IN THE PLANNING EFFORT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAN. GO AHEAD. COUNCILOR FRANCIS. SO YOU MENTIONED EDUCATION AND REACHING OUT TO PUBLIC. ARE YOU IN A POSITION WHERE YOU COULD DO A BOOTH AT A HERITAGE FESTIVAL IN IDAHO FALLS? I THINK THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO START TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PRESERVATION PLAN ITSELF. AND BASED ON THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED. ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK BEING A MORE PUBLIC FACING COMPONENT OF THE AS A COMMISSION, I THINK THAT WE CAN DO THAT. WELL, SISTER FESTIVAL IS COMING IN JUNE. SO DO I CONTACT KAYLA? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. AND IT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE IDAHO FALLS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION FOR THE CITY. SOMETIMES I HEAR PEOPLE SAY, OR PEOPLE CONTACT ME LIKE, WELL, JUST CALL THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE. BUT I KNOW OF WE USED TO HAVE A BONNEVILLE. THEY ARE NO LONGER THEY DISBANDED. AND SO IT KIND OF WE'RE KIND OF IT.
RIGHT. THERE IS THE MUSEUM, OF COURSE, AND I'VE BEEN SURPRISED, MAYBE JUST BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS OUTREACH. BUT THE INQUIRIES THAT I'VE GOTTEN IN JUST THE LAST SIX MONTHS HAVE BEEN A LOT MORE. THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR HOUSE. THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS. AND SO THIS PLAN GIVES US AN ABILITY TO CAPTURE AND DO A LOT MORE WORK OF CAPTURING THAT HISTORY. SO WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO GIVE OUT TO THE PUBLIC. BUT ARE YOU IN A POSITION TO START GIVING OUT SOME OF THAT INFORMATION? MAYBE HARD, MAYBE. I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID. GETTING OUT, GIVING OUT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION IN A COMMUNITY. OKAY. FESTIVAL. GOT IT. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILOR LARSON COUNCIL'S ON THE LINE. I KNOW LISA HAS SOME QUESTIONS.
COUNCILOR FRANCIS OR FREEMAN OR COUNCILOR SELIGMAN. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ASK? COUNCIL PRESIDENT? WE'LL GO TO YOU. SO I FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THAT THIS PLAN LIKE IT IS A GOOD PLAN. I'M
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WONDERING, WHAT IS IT? I MEAN, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY BROAD, BUT WHAT WHAT ARE WE COMMITTING TO? WHAT ARE YOU COMMITTING TO? WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? I MEAN, AS I HAVE READ THROUGH AND LOOKED AT EACH OF THESE TABLES, IT'S LIKE, OH YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO DO. GOAL ONE, RIGHT? IS THE SURVEY. AND YOU JUST WENT OVER THAT. AND THEN THERE'S OTHER SECTIONS ABOUT INFORMATION. SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT IS THE WHAT IS OUR COMMITMENT. WHAT IS YOUR COMMITMENT. HOW DOES THIS ALL WORK TOGETHER? I THINK THE COMMITMENT OVERALL IS THE ARE YOU ASKING LIKE FUNDING WISE OR TIME WISE OR SO FUNDING WISE? I THINK WHAT THIS PLAN DOES IS GIVES US, AS YOU CAN SEE, A CLG GRANT. I MEAN, I COULD GET WE COULD GET AWARDED IT AND THEN IT COULD BE A YEAR BEFORE I START SPENDING. RIGHT. SO THIS GIVES US A WAY TO KIND OF PLAN AHEAD AND KNOW WHEN THERE ARE BUDGET REQUESTS. THE CLG GRANT IS A REIMBURSABLE GRANT SO IT DOESN'T GET REIMBURSED UNTIL THE WORK IS DONE. IT'S ALSO A MATCHING GRANT. AND IN THE PAST THAT THAT MATCHING HAS BEEN IT CAN BE LIKE TIME. IT CAN BE STAFF HOURS, RIGHT? SOMETIMES IT'S FUNDING.SO THE THIS GIVES US THE ABILITY TO SAY WE WANT TO DO THIS, AND THEN I CAN GO FOR A BUDGET AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE'D LIKE. CAN WE MATCH THIS? CAN WE DO IT? THAT'S KIND OF THAT HELPS A LOT.
THAT WOULD COME INTO PLAY. AND SO THEN I NOTICED SOME OF THEM WERE LIKE, YES, WE WANT MONEY, BUT WE DON'T WANT THE RESTRICTIONS ASSOCIATED RIGHT WITH THE I THINK THERE WAS ONE IN THE SURVEY THAT'S LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, SO ABOUT I THINK IT'S JUST HOMEOWNERS. YEAH. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT. SO IT WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY FEEDBACKS IS THAT ENSURING THAT THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING ABOUT WHAT IS OBLIGATED IN THIS ARE VERY CLEAR TO THAT POINT.
THERE ARE NO RESTRICTIONS, AS WE WOULD WORK WITH HOMEOWNERS TO INFORM AND GUIDE THROUGH EDUCATION ON HOW TO CARE FOR THEIR HISTORIC PROPERTIES. BUT UNLESS THEY ARE LISTED ON A DIFFERENT LIST, THAT THOSE OBLIGATIONS ARE NOT THERE. AND WE DID COMMUNICATE THAT IN OUR IN THE WORK GROUP. OKAY. THANK YOU. THOSE WERE KIND OF MY TWO. I JUST I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAD DOWN A PATH THAT THEN IT WAS LIKE, OH NO, WE TOLD THEM TO GO DO THIS AND THEN DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY LEVEL OF SUPPORT OR ANY LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST NOT KNOWING WHAT WE WERE GETTING INTO. SO THANK YOU. SO I DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD SENSE OF COST. SO WE RECEIVED THE GRANT IN YOU SAID JANUARY 23RD. YES. AND IT'S REIMBURSABLE AND THERE'S A MATCH. AND APPARENTLY IF WE HAVEN'T WE USED IT FOR THIS FOR THIS PLAN THEN CLEARLY WE HAVEN'T BEEN REIMBURSED YET. SO WHAT'S THE COST OF JUST THIS PLANNING WORK AND WHAT'S THE MATCH? SO THE GRANT WAS AWARDED FOR $15,000. SHIPPO GIVES ON AVERAGE, ABOUT $100,000 EACH YEAR THAT THEY CAN DISTRIBUTE OVER THE CROSS. THERE'S 42 CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE STATE OF IDAHO WHO CAN REQUEST FUNDS, SO WE WERE AWARDED $17,000. THE MATCH WE HAVE TO MATCH THAT, THAT $15,000. WE IT'S A ONE FOR $1 FOR DOLLAR. YES. AND SO THE CDS WAS BUDGETED $10,000 THAT OUR DEPARTMENT WAS 15. YEAH. OKAY. SO $15,000. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TEN. I THINK THE OVERALL COST OF THE PLAN WAS 25,000. AND THAT WAS WHEN WE WENT OUT TO BID. WE ONLY RECEIVED KIRK WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS ABLE TO BID BACK. AND BECAUSE WE GAVE UP, WE GAVE A LIMIT. WE SAID, WE NEED THIS IN $25,000 OR LESS BASED ON THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED. SO WE DID NOT THEN WILL NOT BE USING ALL THE WE WERE GRANTED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE WE SHIPPO WAS ABLE TO GIVE US, WE'LL HAVE WE ALREADY HAVE MET THE MATCH ON STAFF HOURS IN CONDITION HOURS. SO WE SHOULD BE GETTING THAT 15,000 BACK. YES. OKAY. AND THEN I GUESS WHAT I THE THING THAT I'M NOT GETTING AND I THINK SOME OF THIS CAME THROUGH A MUCH MORE CLEARLY IN THE PUBLIC MEETING THAN, THAN IT'S COMING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE PROGRAMS WITH ELIGIBILITIES AND MEETING MEETING REQUIREMENTS. BUT WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR IDAHO FALLS? I WHY WOULD ANY HOMEOWNER PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL THE CITY AND SAY, I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY OF MY HOUSE? WHY WOULD THEY EVER CARE? WHY SHOULD ANYBODY CARE? WHAT IS THE MEANING BEHIND ALL OF THIS THAT MAKES IT WORTH DOING AND WORTH THAT TIME? AND I'M NOT ASKING TO BE PESSIMISTIC, BUT I'M ASKING WITH A LITTLE BIT OF PASSION. BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE THE WHY, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.
SO GIVE US A GIVE. SPEAK TO THE CAMERA, SPEAK TO WHOEVER MAY BE WATCHING THIS. WHY ARE WE DOING
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THIS? WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT? SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU'RE YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO CAPTURE THE STORY OF THE PEOPLE AND THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT INFORMS DECISIONS IN THE FUTURE. IT INFORMS PEOPLE OF THEIR PAST. PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED. THEY'RE MORE INTERESTED, I THINK, THAN MAYBE WE HEAR ABOUT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND OUR HISTORY, BECAUSE ALL THESE ACTIONS MAKE WHAT THE CITY IS, THE ACTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MAKES TODAY INFLUENCES THE HISTORY IN THE FUTURE. RIGHT. CAN WE MINUTES. SO WE'VE GOT THAT CHECK. SURE. EXPLAIN. YOU'VE GOT YOU GOT TO GIVE MARY. I THINK I'M WAKING YOU UP IN YOUR. I'M POKING HARD ENOUGH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO I'M GIVING IT A SECOND. SO I THINK ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS, I COME FROM THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. THAT WAS MY ROLE IN THE PAST, AND I THINK THIS GIVES A VOICE TO THOSE WHO LACK THAT OTHERWISE. RIGHT, BOTH IN THE REPRESENTATION OF THEIR HISTORY AS WE EVALUATE ITS ELIGIBILITY AND WE LOOK AT THAT, WHETHER IT'S RELIGIOUS BASED OR POST-WORLD WAR TWO OR NAVY, OR WHETHER WE BRING IN A LONG GUN TO THE VETERANS MEMORIAL. RIGHT. THESE ARE THE SORT OF THINGS THAT THIS DOCUMENT FACILITATES THAT WE GUIDE. AND WE DIDN'T CREATE THESE. THE PUBLIC GAVE THAT INFORMATION TO US. AND THAT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART, BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS THAT WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE VALUE OF HISTORY WITHOUT SEEING OURSELVES IN HISTORY. AND NOT EVERYBODY SEES THEMSELVES IN THE HISTORY OF IDAHO FALLS AS IT'S CURRENTLY REPRESENTED. SO ONE OF THE BIG KEY COMPONENTS THAT WE RECEIVED WAS WE NEED TO SEE MORE HISTORY, MORE DIVERSE HISTORIES WITHIN OUR WAYFINDING, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AREAS. SO YOU TAKE THE RIDGE DISTRICT, FOR INSTANCE. IT'S A IT'S A GREAT REPRESENTATION OF ARCHITECTURAL DIVERSITY. BUT WE HAVE THE WEST SIDE THAT IS MID-CENTURY MODERN.WE'RE TALKING 1950S TO 1980S. IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. IT SPEAKS TO THE ECONOMIC PROWESS OF IDAHO FALLS GROWTH. WE'RE SEEING THAT SORT OF INFLUX AGAIN WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE LABORATORY. WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN OVER THE YEARS. WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO DOCUMENT THIS AND RETAIN IT, IT WILL BE LOST AND YOU WILL LOSE SOME ASPECTS OF THOSE TIME PERIODS THAT ARE SOLIDIFIED IN THAT HISTORY OF THEM, WHETHER IT'S BUILDING MATERIALS, WHETHER IT'S THE ICONIC IMAGERY OF THOSE THINGS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. SO IT'S A BIG PART OF SOLIDIFYING THIS, NOT FOR OURSELVES. THIS IS NOT A COMMISSION, SORT OF. IT IS A IT'S A COMMISSION DRIVEN DOCUMENT, AND THAT WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION THAT THEY GAVE TO US TO INFORM. SO WHAT I HEAR SOME IS INVENTORY AND RECORDING, HELPING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THEIR HOMES. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY? LIKE I THINK OF LITTLE PLAQUES ON BUILDINGS. GEORGE WASHINGTON SLEPT HERE, OR ADMIRAL RICKOVER STAYED HERE OR WHATEVER, OR SIGNS ALONG THE RIVERWALK ARE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IN YOUR PURVIEW OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND OUTREACH TO THE LIKE, BEING A RESOURCE FOR SCHOOLS. IF TEACHERS ASK, IS THAT ALL PART OF IT, TOO? YEAH, THAT WOULD DEFINITELY FALL UNDER THAT PUBLIC OUTREACH AND EDUCATION PART. ABSOLUTELY. AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO OUR SHPO FOLKS WHO ARE HERE, AND THEY CAN ALSO PROVIDE TRAININGS AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS TO HOMEOWNERS. AND THEN THERE ARE ALSO OTHER FREE AVAILABLE TRAININGS FOR SOMEONE WHO'S LOOKING TO DO THEY WANT TO REGLAZE THEIR OWN WINDOWS. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE HISTORIC WOODEN WINDOWS, AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO CHANGE ALL OF YOUR WINDOWS OUT. THERE ARE TRAININGS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE LINKS TO AND INFORMATION PACKETS FOR AND THOSE SORT OF THINGS. YES, ABSOLUTELY. ON PLACARDS, NEIGHBORHOOD DRIVEN PLACARDS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP OR EVEN BANNERS FOR STREET SIGNS TO SAY, HEY, YOU'RE ENTERING INTO A HISTORIC DISTRICT. THERE'S A SENSE OF PLACE THAT PEOPLE ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN, AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO HELP, AT LEAST FACILITATE COMMUNITY DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE THINGS, OR WE CAN SEEK COST SHARING OPPORTUNITIES WITH OTHER PARTNERS FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS TO BE SPONSORED THROUGH THAT EFFORT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED ALSO IN THE PLAN. SO LIKE WALKING TOURS THROUGH ARCHITECTURE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WE HAVE SOMEONE CAME AND PRESENTED, THEY'LL BE PRESENTING AT OUR JUNE MEETING FOR SOMETHING EXACTLY TO THAT POINT WHERE WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM AND NOT JUST BE AN INCOME BASED SOURCE OR BE A RECIPIENT OF THEIR, THEIR, THEIR DONATIONS. AND MAYBE I'M COMING BACK TO WHAT THE MAYOR INDICATED, BUT LIKE THAT, TO ME, THOSE KIND OF OUTREACH THINGS WITH SIGNS AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE, NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS, MAKE IT FOR THE COMMUNITY. ONE THING I WOULD JUST ADD IS THAT I SEE IN SOME COMMUNITIES WHEN I DRIVE AROUND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE'S DIFFERENT COLORED SIGNS FOR DIFFERENT GROUPS. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT MUCH CLARITY ABOUT WHERE OURS ENDS AND WE BEGIN, BUT IT DOES MAKE ME HAVE
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TO STOP AND THINK. IS TO STOP AND THINK. I MEAN A DIFFERENT SPOT. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I DON'T KNOW IF WHEN OUR WAYFINDING WAS DONE, IF IT HAS A COMPONENT, IT DOESN'T HAVE A COMPONENT THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BY WHOEVER DESIGNED IT. HUNT DESIGN DESIGNED IT. BUT IF THEY DIDN'T GIVE US A COMPONENT FOR HOW WE WOULD DESIGNATE SOMETHING AS HISTORIC, AND SO WE WOULD WANT TO MAYBE REENGAGE WITH THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO IT TASTEFULLY. BUT THERE THERE ARE LITTLE COSTS HERE AND THERE ALONG THE WAY TO BEING ABLE TO DO THIS. RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DON'T SEE IS JUST EVEN JUST A TANGIBLE HISTORY OF THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, AND THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, LET'S CALL IT CIRCLE SOCIETY. WE DON'T HAVE ONE. THE BONNEVILLE COUNTY HERITAGE ASSOCIATION HAS DISBANDED. THEY HAVE DONE SOME INTERESTING THINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, CAPTURED IF IT'S JUST ON A WEBSITE FOR THE COUNTY THAT THAT WILL BE VISITED LESS FREQUENTLY AS TIME GOES BY. OR YOU KNOW HOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO LIVE. BUT IS THERE IS THIS ALL MEANT TO BE TECHNICALLY CAPTURED AND NOT CAPTURED IN A WAY THAT IS DONE BEYOND MAYBE SOME, SOME WAYFINDING? I MEAN, IS THERE GOING TO BE A STORYTELLING THAT BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER? IS THAT PART OF VISION I ARE YOU LIKE ASKING FOR LIKE A DO YOU THINK LIKE AN OVERALL DOCUMENT? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE WHAT THE VALUE ADDED THAT COMES FROM HAVING HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND HAVING THIS VERY PROFESSIONAL, YOU KNOW, A MONTHLY THOUSAND DOLLAR PLAN, THE VALUE ADDED IS, IS THAT WE START TO HAVE SOME DATA TO BE ABLE TO TELL A STORY, BUT IT'S STILL LOCKED UP IN BUREAUCRATIC PROCESSES IN A CITY BETWEEN A CITY AND A STATE. SO HOW DOES IT HOW DO YOU CRACK IT? HOW DO YOU GET TO IT? I CAN SPEAK TO THE VALIDITY OF THIS AND THE FEDERAL PROCESS AND HOW THAT HELPS DRIVE OUTCOMES. SO WITHIN THE PARK SERVICE, HAVING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO ONE, IDENTIFY YOUR RESOURCES TO IDENTIFY HOW YOU WANT TO TREAT THEM, PRESERVE THEM OR LET THEM GO. AND THEN THREE HOW TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC. THIS DOES THE SAME THING, BUT IT WILL BE IN LOCKSTEP WITH YOUR PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT ARE CODIFIED IN THE FEDERAL SIDE. WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH, LIKE A NATIONAL PARK HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN, IT IS ENACTED DIFFERENTLY THAN THIS WILL BE. BUT BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO IDENTIFY THE SORT OF SHARED GOALS AND IDENTITY COMPONENTS WITHIN THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS, THIS HELPS TO SOLIDIFY SOME OF THOSE SAME THREE THINGS IS THAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING WHAT IS HISTORIC. WHY? WHY IS IT MEANINGFUL? IT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. THE SECOND IS, WELL, WHAT DO WE DO TO PRESERVE IT, AND HOW DO WE FACILITATE THAT THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS? AND THEN HOW DO WE MAKE THAT ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC? AND IN MOST CASES, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING DEVELOPERS COME IN AND ASK THE SAME QUESTION, WHY DO I NEED TO RETAIN THE FACADE OF A BUILDING DOWNTOWN? WELL, HERE'S THE INHERENT VALUE IS THAT THE IDENTITY OF THAT BUILDING IS SOLIDIFIED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. IT TELLS YOU THE STORY. IT BRINGS TOURISM. I AS A PRESERVATIONIST, WHEN I TRAVEL TO A CITY, I LOOK FOR HISTORIC DISTRICTS. I LOOK FOR HISTORIC RESOURCES TO VISIT. THE SAME THINGS ARE SAID ABOUT IDAHO FALLS. THERE ARE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ICONIC HERE THAT DON'T EXIST IN POCATELLO OR IN BLACKFOOT, AND I THINK BEING ABLE TO GET TO THOSE AND DOCUMENT THEM. THIS PLAN IDENTIFIES WHY AND WHAT, AND PROBABLY AN EXAMPLE THAT PRIOR TO THE PLAN, RIGHT. THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING, WE'VE TAKEN THAT HISTORIC CORE, THAT CHARACTER OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WE'VE DONE SUBTLE ZONE CHANGES, RIGHT. THAT THE FRONT DOOR FACES THE FRONT STREET, THAT IT'S REAR LOADED FROM THE ALLEY, THOSE ALLEYS ALREADY EXISTING, RIGHT, THAT THE ROOF ISN'T A FLAT ROOF.WE'RE TRYING TO PRESERVE THAT CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND FOR A LOT OF REASONS, THERE'S A THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED NOAH, WHICH IS NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO BY KIND OF PRESERVING IT, YOU'RE NOT OUT PRICING PEOPLE IN IT, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT. SO THERE'S REASONS TO DO IT. AND I THINK BUT IT AND THE COUNCIL MANY YEARS AGO TASKED THE CITY AND TASKED THE COMMISSION FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AND SO IF THAT'S CHANGED, OF COURSE, THAT'S ALWAYS A DISCUSSION TO BE HAD. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT. THIS PROCESS GETS US TO THE POINT WHERE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL OUR STORY, BUT WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE RAW MATERIALS NOW,
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IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS GETTING US. YES, YES, THAT. SO MAYBE THAT THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED ME BE ABLE TO VIEW THIS BETTER THAN I KEPT LOOKING FOR. THE OUTCOMES ALL SEEMED LIKE PAPER OUTCOMES AND NOT REAL. AND SO NOW I'M MAYBE STARTING TO BEGIN. BUT THAT LAST EXPLANATION THAT YOU GAVE MARY ABOUT THE FEDERAL PROCESS STARTS TO MAKE IT COME HOME A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YEAH.THIS FACILITATES OUR ABILITY TO DO THESE THINGS. WITHOUT IT, WE DO THE AD HOC NEEDS. RIGHT. AND THAT THAT'S NOT A COHESIVE MENTALITY TO BE PRESENTED TO A CITY COUNCIL. SO OUR PRESERVATION COMMISSION HASN'T BEEN AS ACTIVE IN RECENT YEARS, EVEN AS IT WAS WHEN I VERY FIRST CAME IN, I PULLED OFF A NOTEBOOK THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN TO ME BY THE PRESERVATION COMMISSION IN 2014, WHEN I WAS FIRST WHEN I FIRST TOOK OFFICE, AND I SHARED IT WITH LISA, AND WE WERE LOOKING AT IT JUST BRIEFLY THIS MORNING, BUT I WONDERING IF YOU COULD JUST TAKE A MOMENT. CAITLIN AND MARION TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMMISSION AND HOW MANY MEMBERS WE HAVE ON IT RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WHAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, SO THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC LISTENING CAN, CAN HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? SURE. OF COURSE. SO THE COMMISSION BECAME A COMMISSION BY ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE, IN 1987. SO IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A MINUTE. AND YES, THEY WERE VERY ACTIVE. A LOT OF TIMES STAFF WOULD DO THESE NOMINATIONS, THEY WOULD DO WALKING TOURS, THEY WOULD DO THESE OUTREACHES. AND THEN THEY WERE, I WOULD SAY THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE. PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS A LULL. BASICALLY, THE COMMISSION DID A WALKING TOUR EVERY YEAR, AND THAT WAS ABOUT WHAT THEY DID, AND THAT WAS BASED ON CLG GRANTS. SO THE HPC HAS NEVER HAD AN OPERATING LINE BUDGET. THEY'VE THEY'VE NEVER HAD FUNDS FROM THE CITY GIVEN TO THEM TO DO THESE ACTIVITIES. IT'S ALL BEEN THROUGH GRANTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE WRITTEN IN ABOUT 2018, 2019, IN HOUSE, AND IT JUST DIDN'T QUITE JUST IT JUST DIDN'T GET THERE. AND SO WE PICKED IT BACK UP TO KIND OF GIVE IT. BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS THE STORY, ISN'T THERE? THIS PLAN GIVES A WAY TO GIVE THAT STORY. AND SO THIS IS KIND OF A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD FOR IT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT REALLY DOES. COUNCIL MEMBERS, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I KNOW I'VE DOMINATED FOR A FEW MINUTES HERE AND I PUSHED HARD, BUT I WAS TRYING TO GET THE ESSENCE OF WHY THIS IS WORTH DOING. AND THEN YOU'VE ANSWERED IT FOR ME. I DON'T KNOW IF IT ANSWERS IT FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF PASSION IN THE PUBLIC MEETING, AND SO THEY CLEARLY CAUGHT THE VISION QUICKER THAN I. DO. ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS? I, I HAVE ONE OTHER SO I, I DID NOTICE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID WAS IN HERE WAS IN THE MAYOR'S BINDER.
THAT WAS LIKE THE BIG MENTION THAT THERE WAS A WORKBOOK. OH, THEY WENT SO THAT WAS IN THERE.
THERE. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ACTUAL PLAN ITSELF, SORRY. AND IT'S LIKE. OKAY, SO IF I WERE TO LOOK AT THIS, I COULD LOOK AT. SORRY THE. THE GOALS. THAT'S THE IF, IF THIS IS IT THEN YOU WOULD SAY HERE'S GOAL ONE. AND IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING. THAT'S WHAT I THAT'S THE OTHER PIECE THAT I AM WONDERING ABOUT. NO, I THINK THESE WERE JUST THE FOUR GOALS THAT WERE SET UP ESSENTIALLY. AND SOME OF THEM WILL BE HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, TRAINING.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ALWAYS HAPPENING IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. RIGHT? YOU KNOW, COORDINATING WITH CITY PLANNING, LIKE THAT'S REALLY TAKING THAT HISTORIC PRESERVATION MINDSET AND IMPLEMENTING IT ON A STAFF LEVEL, MAYBE THROUGH ZONING CODES OR UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN LIKE THAT'S ONGOING. I THINK ALL OF THESE ARE KIND OF ONGOING, AND I THINK SOME OF IT JUST ENDS UP BEING THAT THERE'S STUFF THE COMMISSION'S WORKING ON. THERE'S STUFF STAFF'S WORKING ON, AND THERE MIGHT BE MORE OF THAT, MORE REGULATORY, LIKE NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS OR SURVEYS THAT ARE BEING DONE AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY, OKAY. THAT THAT WAS HELPFUL. THAT WAS HELPFUL. AND THEN I DID ACTUALLY APPRECIATE FOR MY OWN UNDERSTANDING THE WAY THAT YOU BROKE DOWN THE PERIODS IN THE CITY. LIKE I NEVER HAVING BEEN A LIFELONG RESIDENT, I'D NEVER SEEN, I'D NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY OF THE NATIVE, THE MONTANA, THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY, DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE WARS. I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE PIECES IN THE CITY AND THE CITIES. IT WAS LIKE, OH, YEAH, LIKE I CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE I MEAN, YOU PROBABLY DRIVE AROUND AND SEE THE CITY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY NOW. SO YEAH. SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT HAVING A DAD WHO GREW UP ON LOMAX BETWEEN THE WAR. RIGHT. IT'S LIKE, OH YEAH, THAT'S WHERE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAME ABOUT. SO I
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APPRECIATE THAT. SO YEAH, ONCE AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE WORK TO. I APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT EVEN AS A NEWCOMER, I MEAN, NOT A NEWCOMER AS A AS A LONG TIMER OR LIFELONG MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE SEEING THINGS DIFFERENTLY. THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT SOME POINT IS A CONCISE ENOUGH HISTORY THAT A NEWCOMER COULD COME UP TO SPEED WITHIN A FEW PAGES OF INFORMATION, AND I'M EVEN THINKING, MAYBE WE NEED TO CULTIVATE OR CREATE A WARD. CULTIVATED BOARD. WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER CURATE, THANK YOU. CURATE A STORY THAT'S DESIGNED FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE THAT WE PUT IT IN OUR CANDIDATE GUIDE SO THAT THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO SERVE. THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT, AS SOMEONE WHO DID NOT GROW UP HERE, BUT IT'S ALL NEW TO ME. AND AS I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE LEARNING THINGS, IT'S REALLY HELPED ME TO HAVE APPROPRIATE PERSPECTIVE AND APPRECIATION FOR, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THINGS ARE AND THE WAY THINGS MAYBE NEED TO BE SOMEDAY. BUT ANYHOW, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE CAN DO WITH THE STORYTELLING THAT WILL BE THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO THOSE WHO NEED IT LEAST. ANYTHING ELSE? ONE MORE? NO, NO, I THINK THAT THEY I THINK THEY'RE OFF TO A GREAT START BECAUSE THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, 40 PAGES OF THIS IS REALLY GOOD AT THAT STORY. SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE IT TOO EXCITING. AND THAT PROVIDES YOU THE CONTEXT. RIGHT. SO THE NOMINATIONS, SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION THAT IS IDENTIFIED AS A GOAL AND PRIORITIES WITHIN THIS, IT'S THE FOUNDATION, RIGHT? WE DON'T MAKE THE ASSESSMENTS IN A VACUUM. AND THOSE THINGS ARE DERIVATIVE OF THE HISTORY THAT EVEN YOU AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT, ARE NOW A LITTLE BIT MORE PRIVY TO. AND YEAH, THANK YOU. SO AS CAITLIN MENTIONED, THIS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR APPROVAL ON THURSDAY. THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE COST, BUT THERE IS AN INVESTMENT THAT WE WOULD BE MAKING BY APPROVING THIS. WE ARE, YOU KNOW, GIVING THAT NOD, SO TO SPEAK, THAT THE WORK TO COME OUT OF THIS WILL BE WORK THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT. SO ANYTHING ELSE WADE OR CAITLIN OR MARY THAT YOU WANT US TO INHABIT? ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO GET CLEAR ON BEFORE THURSDAY NIGHT? I IMAGINE THERE WILL STILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE APPROVAL ON THURSDAY NIGHT. BUT THIS IS THE TIME WITH EXPERTS. ALL RIGHT.ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE LINE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD OR MENTION. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, MAYOR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU MAYOR. APPRECIATE IT GUYS.
ALL RIGHT. SO WITH THAT THEN SOUNDS LIKE WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
LET'S SEE. HERE. JIM. SO AT THE TABLE NOW JOIN CAITLIN AS MENTIONED BY DIRECTOR STANTON EARLIER, WE HAVE CHERYL O'BRIEN WHO IS ON THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE BOARD. IS THAT RIGHT? AS A MATTER OF FACT, I'M THE CURRENT CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR THE IDAHO STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. OKAY. GOT IT. AND I'M ALSO THE DISTRICT SEVEN. OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S HOW I THAT'S HOW I KNEW YOU. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT YOU WERE CHAIRING THAT AS WELL. FORGIVE ME. IT'S NEW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE'VE GOT ASHLEY MALLOY. MALLOY, AND THEN MR. EVERHART. AND IT WAS DAN OR DAN, RIGHT? YOU GOT IT. SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO BE HERE. WE HAD QUESTIONS IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT AREAS, AND THERE MAY STILL BE OTHERS. I THINK WE STRUCTURED IT ON THE AGENDA SUCH THAT ANY QUESTIONS WE HAVE THIS IS ALMOST LIKE HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR DUMMIES SESSION HERE. AND I'M GOING TO KICK IT OFF WITH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I GUESS I WOULD INVITE YOU TO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD ABOUT THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT YOU MAYBE DIDN'T GET THE CHANCE TO BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T AT THE TABLE AND GET A CHANCE TO SAY, WELL, MADAM MAYOR, AGAIN, MY NAME IS DAN EBERHART. I WORK FOR THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS HOPING TO DO IS MAYBE GIVE YOU A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO OUR WORK THAT WOULD MAYBE TRIGGER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. AND IF WE DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU ALREADY HAVE IN YOUR MIND, THEN THAT'LL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. AS AS MENTIONED ALREADY, WE WORK FOR THE STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. SO THE STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS
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A STATE AGENCY. AND IN THE STATE OF IDAHO, THIS PARTICULAR AGENCY WITH A MISSION TO COLLECT, DOCUMENT AND PRESERVE IDAHO HISTORY. IT FUNCTIONS THROUGH THROUGH A FEW DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, ALL MANAGED BY AN ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND A BOARD OF TRUSTEES. AS AS AS DOCTOR O'BRIEN MENTIONED, SHE, OF COURSE, IS THE CHAIR OF THAT SEVEN MEMBER BOARD. WE ALL ANSWER TO HER AND THEN WE WORK IN DIFFERENT GROUPS. SO WE HAVE A STATE ARCHIVES. OUR STATE ARCHIVES COLLECTS, STATE RECORDS, COLLECTS COUNTY RECORDS, COLLECTS PRIVATE AND BUSINESS PAPERS, AND KEEPS THOSE AT THE STATE ARCHIVES IN BOISE FOR THE USE OF THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE A STATE MUSEUM, A MUSEUM THAT COLLECTS IDAHO ARTIFACTS AND EXHIBITS THEM AT THE IDAHO STATE MUSEUM IN BOISE. WE HAVE A SERIES OF INTERPRETIVE SITES, HISTORIC PROPERTIES WHICH WE OWN AND MANAGE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THE SORT OF MAYBE ON, ON ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STATE, THE, THE FOUNDATION OR LET'S SAY, CALL IT THE KEYSTONE OF THAT IS THE IS THE OLD IDAHO PENITENTIARY. BUT OVER HERE ON THE EAST SIDE, WE OWN WE OWN PROPERTY IN FRANKLIN, IDAHO'S OLDEST TOWN IN SOUTH CENTRAL IDAHO, A SITE CALLED THE STRICKER RANCH, ASSOCIATED WITH THE OREGON TRAIL, ETC, NOW THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, FOR WHICH ASHLEE AND I WORK, HAS A SIMILAR OR RELATED MISSION, BUT OUR SPECIFIC INTEREST IS IN THE DOCUMENTATION OF IDAHO'S HISTORIC AND ARCHEOLOGICAL PLACES, AND WE COLLECT AND PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE BENEFIT OF IDAHOANS AS THEY GO ABOUT THE BUSINESS OF INTERACTING WITH THE STATE'S HISTORY, PRESERVING HISTORIC PLACES, FUNDING PROJECTS, ENGAGING IN THEIR WORK. SO WHILE OUR PARTNERS AND COLLEAGUES AT THESE OTHER OFFICES DO SORT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD IMAGINE HISTORICAL SOCIETY DOES PAPERS, ARTIFACTS, HISTORIC PROPERTIES, WE DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT HISTORIC PLACES AND WE USE THAT INFORMATION TO THE BENEFIT OF THE, OF THE, OF THE WHOLE STATE.TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MAYOR, ABOUT SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU WERE PRESSING ON, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY ADD MY $0.02. WHY DO WE DO THIS? WHY DOES THE STATE FUND A STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE? WHY DO WE IN TURN, PARTNER WITH OUR CITIES AND COUNTIES AROUND THE STATE TO DOCUMENT HISTORIC PLACES? WE DO IT FOR 3 OR 4 KEY REASONS, AND THE ONE THAT YOU'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH IS THE EASIEST ONE TO UNDERSTAND. WE DO IT BECAUSE OF CULTURE AND HISTORY, AND THE IDEA THAT WE SHARE SOMETHING IN COMMON, AND THAT WHEN WE LOSE THOSE PLACES, WE JOINTLY LOSE SOMETHING IN COMMON. WE LOSE OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND OR REPRESENT THE HISTORY, THE CULTURE, AND THE VALUE OF A PLACE. THAT'S THE EASIEST REASON WHY WE DO THIS. WE DO IT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS. THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC PLACES IS A TOOL FOR SUSTAINABILITY. IT HELPS US BETTER MANAGE OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENT. WE TEACH OUR THREE YEAR OLDS TO RECYCLE POP CANS, AND THEN WE TURN AROUND AND WE DEMOLISH BUILDINGS AND THROW THEM IN THE LANDFILL. BUT THE VALUE, INHERENT ENVIRONMENTAL VALUE OF THE EXISTING BUILT ENVIRONMENT, WHERE POSSIBLE, IS ENORMOUS. THE WASTE THAT WE PREVENT FROM GOING INTO LANDFILL, OR CONVERSELY, THE WASTE THAT WE SEND TO THE LANDFILL IS ALL PART OF THAT EQUATION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION. BUT THE PART OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THE VALUE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT I LIKE TO FOCUS ON IS THE ONE THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE, USUALLY TO DECISION MAKERS. AND THAT'S DOLLARS AND CENTS. WE INVEST IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR THE HARD MONEY THAT COMES OUT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. THE VALUE ADDED TO OUR COMMUNITIES BY BY INVESTING IN HISTORIC PLACES CAN BE SIGNIFICANT. AND YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK ACROSS THE STREET.
THE BONNEVILLE HOTEL, WHERE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION TAX CREDIT AVAILABLE THROUGH OUR OFFICE AND
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THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE FACILITATED THE REHABILITATION OF THIS WONDERFUL HISTORIC PROPERTY. IS IT HISTORIC AND CULTURALLY INTERESTING? ABSOLUTELY. IS THERE AN ENVIRONMENTAL VALUE IN KEEPING THAT BUILDING THERE RATHER THAN DEMOLISHING IT FOR ANOTHER SURFACE PARKING LOT? YOU BET. BUT THERE'S ACTUALLY MONEY TO BE MADE BY INVESTING IN OUR HISTORIC PLACES. HISTORIC PRESERVATION KEEPS MONEY IN THE LOCAL ECONOMY. IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AS MUCH MATERIAL FROM CHINA, FOR INSTANCE, OR TIMBER FROM CANADA. INSTEAD, WE'RE INVESTING IN THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY HERE, AND THE LABOR IS LOCAL. AND THEN THEY IN TURN, THOSE LABORERS INVEST BACK INTO THEIR COMMUNITY. THERE'S LOTS OF REASONS WHY WE DO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT IF YOU TAKE AWAY THOSE THREE IDEAS CULTURAL, ENVIRONMENTAL AND ECONOMIC, THERE'S THREE GOOD REASONS FOR HAVING A PROGRAM HERE IN THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS.NOW, VERY BRIEFLY, THE WORK THAT WE DO AT THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE IS FOCUSED ON THE DOCUMENTATION AND PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC AND ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES. THE PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE MOST FAMILIAR WITH IS ONE KNOWN AS THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. AND THIS PROGRAM DOCUMENTS AND THEN DESIGNATES HISTORIC PROPERTIES ALL OVER THE STATE. WE DO IT BOTH IN THE FORM OF DISTRICTS, AND WE DO IT FOR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES. HERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF IDAHO FALLS, YOU HAVE 24 INDIVIDUALLY LISTED HISTORIC PROPERTIES. CITY HALL RIGHT NEXT DOOR, INDIVIDUALLY LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES. YOU HAVE FOUR NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED DISTRICTS, SO THINK RIDGE AVENUE. THAT'S A DISTRICT THAT COMBINES MULTIPLE PROPERTIES. AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW, ESPECIALLY FOR DECISION MAKERS LIKE YOU FOLKS, IS THAT NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATION IS HONORIFIC. IT PROVIDES NO PROTECTIONS, NO PROTECTIONS, PROVIDES NO RESTRICTIONS, AND PROVIDES NO FUNDING. SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A PROPERTY BEING LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER, IT IS AN ATTABOY. IT'S A WAY TO GO. YOU HAVE A HISTORIC PLACE, AN INTERESTING BUILDING, A PLACE THAT MEANS SOMETHING TO THE FOLKS OF IDAHO FALLS OR IDAHO.
BUT IT IS AN HONORIFIC DESIGNATION. THERE'S ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE MANAGE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALREADY, AND THAT'S OUR CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE. WE INVEST IN COMMUNITIES THAT CHOOSE TO INVEST THEMSELVES IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION. AND SO THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS IS ONE OF 40 CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, THAT IS TO SAY, VERY CLEVERLY, THEY ARE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS. YOU APPLY TO US. AND IN 1987, YOU DID YOU APPLY TO US, YOU PASSED AN ORDINANCE AND YOU SEEK A PRESERVATION COMMISSION. IT COMES WITH NO SPECIFIC OBLIGATIONS, THOUGH. WE HOPE YOU WORK PROACTIVELY, LIKE WITH THIS PLAN, TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF YOUR COMMUNITY. BUT THROUGH THAT RELATIONSHIP SINCE 1987, THE STATE OF IDAHO AND OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE HAVE GIVEN A TOTAL OF 37 GRANTS TO THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, TOTALING JUST UNDER $185,000. SO OUR RELATIONSHIP TO YOU IS NOTED, BUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO US IS JUST AS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO PRIORITIZE HISTORIC PLACES HERE. AND YOUR THE LEAD ON THAT. WE DON'T TELL YOU HOW YOU OR WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING HERE IN IDAHO FALLS. YOUR COMMISSION, YOUR STAFF, YOU AS ELECTED LEADERS. YOU'RE THE ONES DRIVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION THROUGH THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROGRAM. SO THAT'S HOW WE WORK.
AND OCCASIONALLY WE CELEBRATE OUR GOOD WORK. SO MAY IS IDAHO ARCHEOLOGY AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONTH. ANNUALLY WE PRINT A POSTER AND THERE'S THIS YEAR'S POSTER. I BROUGHT ONE FOR EACH OF YOU. I'VE ALSO BROUGHT A FEW STICKERS, AND WE'LL HAPPY TO HAVE YOUR PARTNERSHIP. AS WE TALK ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION THROUGH THE MONTH OF MAY. NOW WE'RE HERE IN PART BECAUSE THERE IS A VERY LARGE COMPONENT OF OUR WORK. 12 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES AT THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE, SIX OF THEM MANAGE A REGULATORY REVIEW PROCESS PROGRAM. THIS SETS US APART FROM
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OUR FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES ELSEWHERE IN THE STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. YOU CAN IMAGINE THE MUSEUM STAFF OR THE ARCHIVE STAFF AREN'T COMPLETING A REGULATORY REVIEW. THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT THE SHIPPO, THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. SHIPPO, BY THE WAY. AT THE SHIPPO, WE MANAGE A REGULATORY REVIEW PROCESS IN COMPLIANCE WITH FEDERAL LAW. AND I'M GOING TO LET ASHLEY NOW TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT REGULATORY REVIEW PROCESS. AND THEN WE HAVE MORE TIME FOR QUESTIONS. SURE. ASHLEY MALLOY, I'M THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION REVIEW OFFICER. ALSO, I'M A COMPLIANCE ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN. AS DAN SAID, OUR GROUP IS MADE UP OF ARCHEOLOGISTS AND COMPLIANCE ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIANS. WE WORK UNDER SECTION 106 OF THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT. AS THE ACT SAYS, 1966. SO IF YOU REMEMBER THE 1960S, THERE WAS A LOT OF URBAN RENEWAL, NEW HIGHWAYS BEING PUT IN, AND A LOT OF HISTORIC RESOURCES WERE BEING DESTROYED USING FEDERAL FUNDS AND FEDERAL PERMITS. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT REALLY UPSET. SO OUT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE GETTING UPSET AND THIS OUTCRY, THE UNITED STATES CREATED THE NATIONAL HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT AND THE SECTION 106 PROCESS TO GIVE CITIZENS A VOICE ON HOW THEIR FEDERAL FUNDING OR FEDERAL LANDS WERE BEING HOW FEDERAL FUNDS OR FEDERAL LANDS MIGHT IMPACT HISTORIC RESOURCES. SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE AN UNDERTAKING AFOOT, WE CALL IT A PROJECT THAT USES FEDERAL MONEY, LAND OR PERMITS. IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY OUR OFFICE. SO THAT SHOULD GO KIND OF PROVIDES A CHECKS AND BALANCES TO THE FEDERAL AGENCIES AND PROVIDES A VOICE FOR IDAHOANS IN THAT PROCESS. SO A PROCESS THAT YOU YOURSELVES HAVE TAKEN PART OF YOUR TIME FEDERAL FUNDS RECENTLY FOR THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM. AND WE REVIEWED THAT PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW MUCH ABOUT THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM, BUT THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM WAS BUILT IN THE 1950, AND IT WAS BUILT IN THE RESPONSE TO THE PROSPERITY AND GROWTH OF IDAHO FALLS AFTER THE POST-WORLD WAR TWO. IT WAS THE LARGEST BUILDING OF ITS KIND AND AUDITORIUM IN THE STATE, AND IT WAS DESIGNED BY THE FETZER'S AND THE FETZER'S, ESPECIALLY. EMIL FETZER WAS A REALLY PROMINENT ARCHITECT OR ARCHITECT OUT OF UTAH, AND HE LATER BECAME THE CHURCH OF JESUS LATTER-DAY SAINTS ARCHITECT FROM 1965 TO 86, AND HE DESIGNED THE WASHINGTON, D.C. TEMPLE. HE DESIGNED TEMPLES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, ACTUALLY, AND HE DESIGNED YOUR MUNICIPAL AUDITORIUM. IT WAS ONE OF HIS ONLY LOCAL NON TEMPLE DESIGNS IN THE STATE OR EVEN IN THE WEST. SO IT'S A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT HISTORICALLY, AND NOT ONLY FOR ENTERTAINMENT OR ENTERTAINMENT, BUT ALSO FOR ITS ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE BACK TO I THINK IS, IS I THINK THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REGULATORY REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER IN MORE DETAIL, AND MAYBE SOME QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT THAT IS THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM. AND SO I THINK IF, IF, IF YOU'RE READY, WE'RE READY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE MORE DETAIL IF YOU NEED IT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LEAVE OFF. SO PART OF THIS IS WAS DRIVEN BY THE DOCUMENTATION THAT CAME THROUGH ON THE. SORRY THE FRONTIER CENTER. WHEN WE WERE GETTING READY TO APPLY ARPA DOLLARS. AND THEN WE LEARNED THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS REVIEW. AND THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT I'D EVER BEEN. I GUESS, THE SIGNATORY ON IN SUCH A WAY THAT THAT I LOOKED AT, I NEVER I'VE NEVER READ ANYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE THAT CAME BACK WITH THIS KIND OF REVIEW. AND I GUESS I'M LEARNING THAT NOT UNLIKE MAYBE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STATEMENT OR SOMETHING, THIS IS JUST PART OF THE DUE COURSE OF THINGS. WHEN FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE BEING APPLIED TO A PROJECT. BUT BECAUSE IT WAS MY FIRST TIME, I LOOKED AT IT AND I THOUGHT, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THE FINDING THAT CAME BACK WAS THAT THE PLAN TO ENLARGE THE LOBBY AND TO MAKE[00:55:01]
THE RESTROOMS IN THE BUILDING ADA ACCESSIBLE. BOTH OF BOTH OF THOSE THINGS ARE DESIGNED TO MAKE THIS FACILITY MORE USER FRIENDLY. THOSE CAME BACK AS HAVING AN WAS AN ADVERSE IMPACT, AND IT'S STRUCK A CHORD THINKING, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE. WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE ACCESSIBILITY. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO CAN'T GO TO THE FACILITY AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE HANDLE THE STEPS. AND EVEN IF THEY CAN HANDLE THE STEPS, GETTING IN THE STEPS TO THE RESTROOMS ARE ARE PROBLEMATIC. AND SO WE THOUGHT, NO, NO, THIS THIS IS A GOOD THING. WHY IS IT THAT THE STATE HISTORIC WHO ARE THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PEOPLE TO TELL US THAT WE CAN'T CREATE SOME ADA ACCESSIBILITY AND HELP, YOU KNOW, FOLKS IN WHEELCHAIRS GET TO THE RESTROOM. SO THAT WAS ONE. AND THEN THE OTHER WAS THAT, WELL, ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH USING LOTS AND LOTS OF GLASS IS MAKE THE LOBBY LARGE ENOUGH TO HAVE A FUNCTION AND ALSO TO CREATE A SITUATION WHERE WHEN YOU OPEN THE DOOR IN JANUARY, YOU'RE NOT FREEZING OUT THE SMALL LOBBY SPACE THAT WE DO HAVE THERE. AND SO IT'S TRYING TO MAKE THE BUILDING MORE USABLE. IT CAME BACK WITH AN ADVERSE IMPACT. AND THEN IT READ THE REPORT THAT THIS IS NOT DOESN'T HAVE THE HONORIFIC OF BEING ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER, BUT BECAUSE IT'S ELIGIBLE FOR THAT, IT THEN IT ALMOST READ LIKE, WELL, BECAUSE IT'S ELIGIBLE, WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW. IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH TO ME WHEN I WAS FIRST READING IT AS WELL. NO, YOU'RE SPENDING FEDERAL DOLLARS. SO WE GET TO REVIEW THIS AND WE HAVE TO REVIEW IT NO MATTER WHAT. SO THAT CAME ACROSS AND I THOUGHT, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WE JUST PUT IN AN ELEVATOR TO A BUILDING THAT IS ON THE HISTORIC REGISTER USING THOSE SAME ARPA DOLLARS, AND WE DIDN'T GET AN ADVERSE IMPACT FINDING THERE. AND THEN HERE WE ARE WITH THIS OTHER FACILITY TRYING TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE. AND WE'RE GIVING EXAMPLES. SO IT HIT A WEIRD NOTE. AND SO IF YOU COULD TEACH A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAYBE EVEN WHAT THE WORD ADVERSE MIGHT MEAN, BECAUSE IT MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME MEANING TO A LAYPERSON AS IT DOES TO A PROFESSIONAL. AND JUST KIND OF COMMENT A LITTLE BIT THERE. AND THEN I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THAT. BUT PEOPLE WELL, LET'S START WITH AN ADVERSE EFFECT. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, LET'S START WITH YOUR NEED AS A COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE ACCESSIBILITY TO THAT PARTICULAR PLACE. HISTORIC PLACES SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. IT'S IN NO ONE'S INTEREST TO MAKE THEM INACCESSIBLE OR UNSAFE. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE GO ABOUT MAKING PROPERTIES ACCESSIBLE, DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE GO ABOUT MAKING THEM SAFE. HOPEFULLY, WE'RE ALWAYS MEETING THE SPIRIT AND THE LETTER OF THE BUILDING CODE AS WE DO THAT. AND HAVING SAID THAT, WE HAVE OPTIONS AS WE MAKE ALTERATIONS TO HISTORIC PLACES. WE HAVE OPTIONS THAT ALLOW US TO COLOR MORE INSIDE THE LINES RELATED TO THE RETENTION AND PRESERVATION OF THOSE HISTORIC SPACES AND THEIR ORIGINAL DESIGN, OR A LITTLE LESS INSIDE THE LINES. AND SO, AS WE CONSIDER PROJECTS AND WE CONSIDER THOUSANDS OF PROJECTS EVERY YEAR FROM FEDERAL AGENCIES OF EVERY STRIPE, AND YES, THEY PASS ALONG THEIR REQUIREMENTS TO YOU AS GRANTEES, WE WILL, IN OUR COMMON PARLANCE, USE THE PHRASING NO EFFECT, NO ADVERSE EFFECT AND ADVERSE EFFECT. THESE ARE PHRASES STIPULATED UNDER THE LAW AND WITHIN THE PROCESS. THEY ARE NOT AN IDAHO PHRASE. THEY'RE A NATIONAL CONCEPT. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE PROJECT IS, WE REVIEW THEM UNDER THOSE THREE CONCEPTS. WHY A PROJECT MIGHT HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT OR NOT CAN DEPEND UPON THE PROJECT. SO THE OUTRIGHT DEMOLITION OF A NATIONAL REGISTER LISTED HIGHWAY BRIDGE IS AN ADVERSE EFFECT, AND MAYBE IT'S MORE EASILY UNDERSTOOD AS AN ADVERSE EFFECT. BUT ALTERING THE ALTERING THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT IT IT WHOLLY CHANGES THE FACADE, AT LEAST THE GROUND LEVELS OF THE FACADE IS IN OUR ESTIMATION, AND THE ESTIMATION OF PROFESSIONALS LIKE US WOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED AN ADVERSE EFFECT. WE DID DISCUSS OPPORTUNITIES TO ALTER THE DESIGN OF YOUR ADDITION IN SUCH A WAY AS TO ALLOW YOUR USE AND NEEDS, YOUR SAFETY AND YOUR ACCESSIBILITY WITHOUT HAVING THOSE SAME IMPACTS. BUT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE CITY WANTED TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT AS[01:00:05]
AS DESIGNED. SO WE DID TALK ABOUT IT AS AN ADVERSE EFFECT. THAT'S NOT A PERSONAL STATEMENT AGAINST THE CITY. IT'S SIMPLY THE PARLANCE OF OUR OF OUR OFFICE. AND WE'VE USED THOSE TERMS NOW FOR 50 YEARS. SO IT'S AGAIN, IT'S JUST A SORT OF COMMON PHRASE FOR US. BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW IF YOU HEAR THAT PHRASE, IT IT FEELS A LITTLE CUTTING. IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE.IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A PERSONAL REFLECTION. IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A SPECIFIC SORT OF TERMINOLOGY THAT WE USE. NOW THE, THE, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT WE, YOU ASKED AND, AND I THINK BEARS THERE'S SOME VALUE IN TALKING ABOUT IT, THE FACT THAT THE CITY DID NOT CONSULT WITH OUR OFFICE ON YOUR ELEVATOR ADDITION TO THE NATIONAL REGISTER, CITY HALL WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON THE PART OF THE CITY. AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE TOO BLUNT, BUT BUT THERE'S A FEDERAL LAW WHICH REQUIRES YOU TO CONSULT WITH OUR OFFICE AS YOU SPEND THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS. IT APPEARS FROM OUR RECORDS THAT YOU DID NOT DO THAT. AND SO THE FACT THAT NO SIMILAR PROCESS TOOK PLACE FOR THAT PROJECT. WAS WAS NOT OUR CHOICE. WE WOULD HAVE REVIEWED THAT PROJECT LIKE WE REVIEWED THE AUDITORIUM PROJECT OR ANY OTHER FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECT, AND WE WOULD HAVE EVALUATED THE OUTCOMES FOR THAT AS NECESSARY. BUT THAT THAT PROJECT HAPPENED WITHOUT OUR REVIEW. 12 STAFF IN OUR OFFICE, SIX OF THEM DEVOTED TO THIS PROCESS, TO THIS REGULATORY REVIEW, WE SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE TIME, STAFFING OR DESIRE TO POLICE OUR STATE FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THIS FEDERAL LAW. WHILE YOU RUN THE RISK OF OPENING YOURSELF UP TO LAWSUIT OR OR OTHER CONSEQUENCES FROM FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL LAW, IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO POLICE THE CITY OR ANY OF OTHER OUR OTHER PARTNERS IN HOW AND WHEN THEY THEY THEY DO THAT WORK SO THAT CAN I PULL ON THAT SCREEN FOR JUST A MOMENT? YEAH. SO I THINK THAT NO ONE INTENDED TO NOT COMPLY. RIGHT. I THINK THAT THERE'S A GREAT. RESPECT FOR ALL OF THE PROCESSES THAT THAT ARE TO BE FOLLOWED. I'M WONDERING IF THERE ISN'T SOME ROOM AND I WHEN I SAY THIS WONDERING, I THINK THERE'S ROOM FOR SOME EDUCATION. IF IT TOOK 12 YEARS FOR ME TO BE IN OFFICE TO ENCOUNTER MY FIRST, YOU KNOW, OVERVIEW OF A PROJECT THAT SUGGESTS THAT THERE IS A LEARNING CURVE AND YOU DON'T HIT IT RAPIDLY IN IN THE COURSE OF BEING A CITY OFFICIAL. AND I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WORKING WITH AN ORGANIZATION LIKE THE ASSOCIATION OF IDAHO CITIES, WHEN WE HAVE OUR OR OUR ANNUAL MEETINGS, IT WOULD BE REALLY WONDERFUL TO HAVE SOMEONE GIVE A PRESENTATION LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GIVING TO US, TO OTHER CITIES AND THEIR LEADERS. IT MIGHT IT MIGHT BE A REALLY GREAT WAY FOR MORE THAN JUST A SELECT FEW LIKE KATELYN TO REALLY KNOW THIS STUFF AND WORK WITH THE CITY. AND I SHOULD INCLUDE WAY TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'VE OVERSEEN THIS KIND OF THING BEFORE. BUT. BUT ANYWAY, IT MIGHT THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO START CRACKING THAT SO THAT THE SIX PEOPLE AREN'T FEELING LIKE THEY'RE BELEAGUERED AND BEHIND. YEAH, SURE. I'M JUST GOING TO ADD ON THAT THE STOCKYARDS WAS A SECTION 106. SO THAT WAS AN EPA BROWNFIELD GRANT. AND THEN IN 2019, A PART OF THAT GRANT, A HISTORIC RESOURCE EVALUATION REPORT WAS CREATED. AND THEN IN 2022, SECTION 106 WAS DONE FOR THE POLICE STATION. SO THE PLAZA THAT'S DOWN THERE WITH THE INTERPRETIVE SIGN THAT WAS SECTION 106 MITIGATION. NOW, THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME AS A REQUIREMENT FROM THE OWNERS THAT THEY WANTED THAT AS A WAY TO PRESERVE HISTORY. AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF INTERESTING. AND EITHER THAT OR SECTION 106 SOUNDED TO ME LIKE IN THE CHARLIE BROWN MOVIE, WHICH SOME OF YOU MAY NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE THAT'S AN OLD HISTORIC KIND OF REFERENCE. BUT ANYHOW, IT'S THE TEACHER. YEAH. CHARLIE BROWN, THANK YOU. I JUST WAS LIKE, WE ACTUALLY REVIEW LIKE ALL YOUR CDBG AND HAD FUNDING PROJECTS. WE REVIEW ALL OF THOSE AS WELL. AND IN MOST CASES WHEN YOU HAVE A SECTION 106 REVIEW, WE HAVE THOSE TWO OTHER EFFECT FINDINGS, NO EFFECT AND NO ADVERSE EFFECT.
AND THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECTS WE REVIEW ARE NO EFFECT OR NO ADVERSE EFFECT FINDINGS. SO IT'S
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PROBABLY NOT UNTIL YOU GET TO AN ADVERSE EFFECT THAT MAYBE YOU'RE PULLED IN. AND LISA FERRIS OF CDBG COORDINATOR OR SPECIALIST IS HERE. AND SHE WAS PROBABLY THINKING, OKAY, THIS WOMAN HAS NOT COMPREHENDED WHAT SHE HAS READ AND CITED THE PAST SO CLEARLY I AM NOT I HADN'T PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER PROPERLY. SO WE WOULD ALSO SUGGEST, AND AGAIN, NOT THAT NOT, WE WOULD NEVER IMPLY THAT IT WAS THE INTENT OF THE CITY TO, TO VIOLATE FEDERAL LAW IN YOUR YOUR SPENDING OF THOSE FUNDS. IT IS ALSO AT A CERTAIN POINT, THE FEDERAL AGENCIES RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE CLEAR TO YOU AS GRANTEES WHAT YOUR OBLIGATIONS ARE UNDER FEDERAL LAW. AND IF THEY'RE NOT PROPERLY INFORMING YOU THAT THAT CAN ALSO BE PROBLEMATIC. SO I THINK I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION. AND I TAKE TO HEART THE, THE, THE SUGGESTION OF GOING TO THE AIC AND, AND OTHER SIMILAR OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR THAT SORT OF OUTREACH BECAUSE WE DO WANT OUR, OUR PARTNERSHIPS TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND THOUGHTFUL AND, AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS IN ALL OF THIS. AND SO WE'RE JUST ONE OF THOSE PARTS. AND WE MOVE OVER HERE WHETHER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING THERE OR NOT. BUT WE'RE DOING THAT NOT JUST TO REGULATE THE CITY'S USE OF FEDERAL FUNDS, BUT ALL OF OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS. AND SO AS AN, AS A, FOR INSTANCE, THE IDAHO TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, IN COOPERATION WITH THE FEDERAL HIGHWAYS ADMINISTRATION, IS INVESTIGATING A MASSIVE REDESIGN OF THE YELLOWSTONE HIGHWAY INTERSECTION WITH THE INTERSTATE RIGHT. AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THEY CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THE SECTION 106 REVIEW PROCESS TO FIRST DETERMINE WHAT THEIR PROJECT IMPACTS MAY BE, AND EVENTUALLY TO MAKE UP FOR ANY IMPACTS, ADVERSE IMPACTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE. SO YOU'LL CONTINUE TO HEAR, I KNOW WITH CAITLIN AND THE COMMISSION ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE IN SECTION 106, EVEN IF THE CITY IS NOT THE LEAD AGENCY AS YOU ARE IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WITH THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM. AND TO ADD ON TO THAT, THE FIGHT, PARTICIPATING IN MITIGATION MEETINGS LIKE WE MIGHT POSSIBLY DO WITH IPD. I COULD TAKE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN IF ADOPTED AND SAY, HERE ARE MITIGATION EFFORTS YOU CAN DO.AND NOW IPD WILL PAY FOR THOSE, NOT THE CITY. SO THAT ALSO HELPS. THE PLAN ALSO HELPS WITH IDEAS LIKE THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE THEN IT IT SHOWS THAT THE COUNCIL IS ON BOARD. THE COMMISSION IS ON BOARD. THE COMMUNITY IS ON BOARD WITH THESE TASKS. RIGHT. AND IT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY HERE'S WE'VE ALREADY OUTLINED IT. IT'S EASY FOR SHIPPO TO ALSO SAY, YEP, EVERYONE'S ON BOARD. SO IN THIS INSTANCE, WHERE THE CITY HAS TO KIND OF BE THE MITIGATION AND THE PERSON PAYING FOR IT, IN SOME WAYS IT WORKS OUT WHERE MITIGATION INL DOES A LOT OF MITIGATION. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING THAT IS NOT FROM THE CITY. AND AN IDEAL PROJECT IS THIS REVIEW COME NEAR THE BEGINNING OR IN THE MIDDLE OR TOWARD THE END. SO I ALWAYS SAY TO CONSULT EARLY AND OFTEN. SO I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE AN INKLING THAT YOU MIGHT BE USING FEDERAL FUNDS AND YOU WANT TO RUN STUFF BY US, YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE A MEETING. BUT I WOULD SAY THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE IS THE BEST. AND WE DO THAT EARLY CONSULTATION IF POSSIBLE, SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT YOUR DESIGN CONCEPT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE VALUE OF WHATEVER RESOURCE IT IS THAT YOU MAY MIGHT BE IMPACTING. SO IT'S A PLANNING TOOL AS YOU MOVE THROUGH YOUR DESIGN PROCESS, IDEALLY, YOU WOULD KNOW WHAT IMPACT YOU MIGHT HAVE AND STEER THE PROJECT IN SUCH A WAY AS TO AVOID THOSE IMPACTS. AVOIDANCE IS BY FAR A BETTER SOLUTION THAN HAVING THE IMPACT AND THEN MITIGATING THE IMPACT BECAUSE FOR THE FOR EXAMPLE, THE US 20 I-15 INTERCHANGE PROJECT THAT STARTED IN 2017 WITH THE PEL PROCESS AND THEN IT PROCEEDED, THEN TO THE AS WE NARROW DOWN OPTIONS TO THE EIS PROCESS AND NOW NOW WE MAY HAVE SOME MITIGATION TO BE DONE ALMOST WHEN WE'RE ANTICIPATING BEING READY TO START PULLING THE TRIGGER ON, ON, YOU KNOW, FUNDING AND CONSTRUCTION. SO IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING THAT IN THIS CASE, I GUESS IT'D CAME LATE TO THE PARTY. SO MAYBE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO COMES INTO THE LATE. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ITD FOR YEARS ON THIS PROJECT. OKAY. THEN THEY MUST BE ABSORBING IT IN THEIR MIND. YEAH, SOMETIMES. SO THE SECTION 106 IS A PROCESS LAW. AND WHEN
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YOU SAY PROCESS LIKE IT CAN, THE PROJECT CAN STILL HAPPEN. THEY CAN HAVE IMPACTS. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY CAN'T AVOID OR MINIMIZE IMPACTS OR JUST GOING TO HAVE TO MITIGATE. AND THAT'S THE CASE FOR THE LINE 1520. WE HAVE A BOATLOAD OF MITIGATION THAT THE FAA IS REQUIRING. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, VERY OUT LOUD. AND WE'RE WE'RE INVOLVED IN THAT. BUT THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I'M HEARING THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME HISTORIC KINDS OF. RIGHT. SO, SO ULTIMATELY AND WE DIDN'T QUITE GET THROUGH THIS. BUT SECTION 106 REQUIRES THE IDENTIFICATION OF RESOURCES, WHATEVER YOUR PROJECT IS, HOW IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY IT? IS IT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER? IS IT NOT ELIGIBLE FOR LISTING IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER, OR IS IT ACTUALLY LISTED? THE LAW DOES NOT MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE PROPERTIES WHICH ARE FORMALLY LISTED AND THOSE WHICH HAVE JUST BEEN DETERMINED ELIGIBLE. THEY. THE LAW TREATS THOSE TWO BUCKETS THE SAME. SO WHEN YOU MENTION THE CITY HALL, A LISTED PROPERTY, VERSUS THE AUDITORIUM AND ELIGIBLE PROPERTY, THE LAW MAKES NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEM. SO WE FIRST CONSIDER OUR PROJECT ACTIONS, WHAT IMPACTS THEY MIGHT HAVE ON ELIGIBLE OR LISTED PROPERTIES. AND IF WE HAVE NO EFFECT OR NO ADVERSE EFFECT, THE PROCESS SORT OF JUST FALLS INTO AN OBVIOUS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF PATH. IF, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE AGENCY DETERMINES THAT THERE WILL BE AN ADVERSE EFFECT TO A PROPERTY ELIGIBLE FOR OR LISTED IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES, THEN THE PROCESS INCLUDES OPPORTUNITIES TO AVOID, IDEALLY, AVOID, THOSE IMPACTS, MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS, AND THEN FINALLY, IF NO, IF THAT CAN'T BE AVOIDED, WE THEN MITIGATE. WE MAKE UP FOR IT. WE BALANCE THE SCALES FOR THAT PROCESS. AND SO IN THIS CASE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO FUND THIS HARM TO THIS ARCHEOLOGICAL OR HISTORIC PLACE. AND TO BALANCE THE SCALE, WE WILL FUND SOME GOOD TO SOME OTHER TYPE OF HISTORIC OR ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCE. AND THAT'S THE CONCEPT OF MITIGATION. AT THE VERY END OF THE PROCESS, THE PROJECT PROCEEDS. SURELY? YES. I WANT TO POINT OUT A VERY RECENT GREAT EXAMPLE OF THIS PROCESS, AND THAT IS THE NAVAL REACTORS FACILITY. THE LOSS OF THOSE TWO SUBMARINE PROTOTYPES, OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S A PROJECT WITH NOT EVEN WITH LOCAL SIGNIFICANCE, WITH IDAHO SIGNIFICANCE, WITH NATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE, WITH INTERNATIONAL SIGNIFICANCE. SO THEY NEEDED TO DO THEIR BEST TO DECONTAMINATE, DISPOSE OF THOSE PROTOTYPES THAT STARTED OUR NUCLEAR NAVY AND CHANGED THE WORLD, BUT IT JUST COULDN'T BE DONE. AND, YOU KNOW, AS THE IDAHO STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, WE'RE THINKING WHAT A LOSS OF HUGE ARTIFACTS THAT'S SO IMPORTANT TO OUR HISTORY. AND WE JUST HAD OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT PRESERVING OUR HISTORY AND OUR SHARED HISTORY, AND HOW THAT MAKES US COMMON AMONGST US. AND SO WORKING WITH THE NAVY, BECAUSE, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY, FEDERAL FUNDS, THAT THERE WAS NO WAY TO PRESERVE THOSE ARTIFACTS. SO IT WAS AN ADVERSE IMPACT, A BIG ADVERSE IMPACT THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO LOSE THOSE PROTOTYPES. THERE'S JUST NO WAY. WELL, THEY WERE CONTAMINATED AND COULD BE CONTAMINATED. AND THERE WAS PROBABLY SECURITY CONCERNS, TOO. SO THEN IT WAS CLEAR THAT WE HAD TO MOVE INTO MITIGATION. WHAT IS THIS BALANCE BETWEEN THIS LOSS OF THESE MARVELOUS ARTIFACTS TO WHAT CAN WE DO TO STILL PRESERVE THAT AS A GOOD. AND SO WITH THE NAVY FUNDED, THEY FUNDED, OF COURSE, SIGNAGE OUT AT THE REST AREA THAT'S CLOSE TO NAVAL REACTORS FACILITY, SO TRAVELERS CAN SEE THAT THEY FUNDED IDAHO PUBLIC TV TO MAKE THAT GREAT DOCUMENTARY THAT'S BEEN SHOWN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THEY ALSO FUNDED A MARVELOUS EVENT HERE IN IDAHO FALLS FOR MAYOR CASPER THAT EVENING THAT I TOLD HER I NEVER FELT SO PATRIOTIC AS WALKING OUT OF THAT EVENT. SO THE NAVY THEN THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS, THAT PLUS SIDE WAS TO DO WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO SO THAT AT LEAST AND THROUGH THE FILMING AND THE SIGNAGE, WE KNOW AND WE CAN TELL THE PUBLIC THERE'S A TANGIBLE WAY TO TELL THEM THIS IS WHAT WE HAPPENED HERE. WE'RE SORRY WE COULDN'T PRESERVE THE ARTIFACT. THIS IS IMPORTANT, BUT THIS IS OUR BALANCE. THIS IS OUR MITIGATION TO THIS. AND I HOPE THAT'S HELPFUL. VERY HELPFUL. AND THAT EXPLAINS THEN WHY, IN OUR OWN LITTLE EXAMPLE OF THE FRONTIER CENTERS ADVERSE IMPACT FINDINGS, THAT WE WERE THEN. I DON'T HAVE MY LIST THAT I[01:15:07]
RECEIVED IN AN EMAIL. THAT'S THE THING I FORGOT TO PRINT WHEN I CAME TO THIS MEETING. BUT A LIST OF IDAHO FALLS PARKS PROPERTIES, PARTICULARLY AROUND TOMPKINS PARK, THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT EFFORT IS PUT INTO STUDYING THEM AND DETERMINING THEIR WHAT, SCOPING OUT THEIR ELIGIBILITY AND OR PUTTING THEM ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S FUNDED. I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE GOT TO FUND. BUT IT FELT LIKE THIS IS WHAT IT FELT LIKE.AND I'VE LEARNED A LOT TODAY AND EVEN PRIOR TO TODAY, SINCE I FIRST ENCOUNTERED THAT PAPERWORK. BUT IT FELT LIKE, OKAY, BECAUSE WE'RE USING ARPA DOLLARS, WHICH IS THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FEDERAL MONEY RATHER THAN JUST CITY DOLLARS. WE WERE TOLD YOU'RE YOU'RE ACCESSIBLE ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT FOR THE SORRY FOR THE FRONTIER CENTER IS. NEGATIVE AND HAS THIS NEGATIVE IMPACT. EVEN THOUGH WE WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WONDERFUL. RIGHT. AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, NOT ONLY WAS THAT A BAD THING, BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO GO AND SPEND SOME MONEY ON STUDYING SOME MORE THINGS AND THEN PUT THOSE INTO HISTORIC PRESERVATION STATUS AND LOCK THOSE UP FOR FUTURE, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC USE AND ENJOYMENT. THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE. AND IT ALL. AND IT FELT LIKE IT WAS ALL BEING DONE WITHOUT ANY CONSULTATION TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO HAD ORIGINALLY APPROVED THE PROJECT FOR THE FEDERAL DOLLARS. AND SO ONE OF MY COMMENTS TO STAFF WAS, HOW CAN THEY JUST DO THIS? HOW CAN THE STATE COME IN AND DO SOMETHING? AND CLEARLY I WAS LACKING THE TRAINING. RIGHT. AND CLEARLY IT'S NOT THE STATE COMING IN AND DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY WEREN'T AUTHORIZED TO DO. BECAUSE I GET IT NOW, BUT I DIDN'T THEN. SO THERE IS ROOM FOR EDUCATION. BUT THE SECOND THING IS IT DID FEEL LIKE PUNISHMENT. AND CAITLIN TRIED AT ONE POINT, BUT NOT DIRECTLY, BUT I WORKED WITH MR. SANTER, TRIED TO EXPLAIN THAT NO, THIS THIS IS ALL OPPORTUNITY AND THAT'S WHY I PUSHED HARDER EARLIER, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE TEACH THE PUBLIC WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY IS. AND SO THAT THAT'S SOME OF WHY I'M SO VERY GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THERE IS AND WAS A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF HELPING US TO UNDERSTAND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND OUR OPPORTUNITIES HERE. SO, MADAM MAYOR, I JUST WOULD FOLLOW THAT BY SAYING IN SELECTING MITIGATION FOR THIS PROJECT, WE DID CONSULT OUR DRAFTED IDAHO FALLS PRESERVATION PLAN, WHICH LOOKED AT PARTICULAR OBJECTIVES AND OPPORTUNITIES, FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES. AND WE THOUGHT RATHER THAN CREATE NEW IDEAS, LET'S TAKE WHAT THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE STAFF AND COMMISSION HAVE ALREADY DETERMINED TO BE A NEXT OR FUTURE STEP. AND LET'S ADOPT THOSE AS MITIGATION OPPORTUNITIES. SO WE DIDN'T PULL THEM FROM THE AIR, RIGHT? WE USED YOUR PLANNING DOCUMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT MIGHT BEST SUIT THE NEEDS OF IDAHO FALLS. AND WE HOPE WE HADN'T SEEN AND NONE OF US HAD SEEN AT THAT POINT. BUT SO WE HOPE THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH FUNDING THIS MITIGATION, THAT IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT MONEY THROWN INTO A PIT, IT'S INSTEAD A BENEFIT TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE FUNDING, IN PART, MAYBE NOT AT YOUR OWN CHOICE OR YOUR OWN TIMING, BUT YOU'RE FUNDING THESE IDEAS THAT YOU HAD ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS A COMMUNITY TO, TO PRIORITIZE IN THE FUTURE, I THINK MAKES A LOT OF REALLY SMART SENSE. AND OFTEN THINGS DO ONCE YOU LEARN THEM.
COUNCIL MEMBERS I'VE DOMINATED COMPLETELY, BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU HAD SHARED ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WERE FIRST CONFRONTED WITH SOME OF THIS, YOU SHARED MY CONCERN. AND NONE OF US HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS HERE. BUT WE'VE SINCE LEARNED SOME THINGS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? ONE THING. YEAH. CAITLIN AND THEN COUNCILOR LARSON WITH THE WITH THE S ONE DEMOLITION MITIGATION.
THE CITY WAS CONSULTED ON THAT. ACTUALLY, THAT WAS IN 2021. IT WAS A DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBER AT THE TIME. BUT BECAUSE THE COMMISSION COULDN'T, WE THEY DIDN'T KNOW QUITE WHERE TO GO WITH IT. THEY DIDN'T REALLY THEY COULDN'T COME UP WITH SOMETHING. RIGHT. STAFF IT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY FUNDS THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE LOST OUT ON. RIGHT. SO JUST KNOW IT WORKS BOTH WAYS RIGHT. THIS PLAN WE DID HAVE A DRAFT PLAN. AND WE DID TRY TO THINK OF TASKS THAT WOULD KEEP IT CITY RIGHT, CITY TO CITY. OUR PARKS ARE SUCH A WONDERFUL ASSET TO THE CITY AND TO CREATE TO CAPTURE THAT HISTORY OF IT, I THINK IS REALLY A WONDERFUL ASSET. SO I JUST
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WANTED TO KIND OF POINT OUT THAT THE PLAN GIVES US A DIRECTION, RIGHT WHERE DOLLARS WERE LOST OUT PREVIOUSLY. NOT THAT THE MITIGATION WAS AMAZING, RIGHT. BUT OKAY, KIND OF A PROCESS QUESTION, I GUESS. FIRST OF ALL, JUST TO MAKE SURE I'VE GOT THE FACTS STRAIGHT. SO THE PROJECT ITSELF WAS NOT LISTED, THE BUILDING ITSELF WAS NOT LISTED, BUT IT WAS ELIGIBLE TO BE LISTED. HOW DID IT GET ON THAT LIST? SO I CAN JEN MENTIONED A FEW STEPS WITHIN THE SECTION 106 PROCESS. SO ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS WE DEFINE OUR UNDERTAKING THE PROJECT. AND THEN THE SECOND STEP IS TO IDENTIFY HISTORIC PROPERTIES. SO OUR OFFICE LOOKED AT THE BUILDING. AND WHEN DID YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING. WHEN THE CITY SUBMITTED THE DOCUMENTATION FOR THE PROJECT TO US. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE BUILDING AND DID RESEARCH ABOUT IT, AND WE FOUND THAT ONE. IT WAS BUILT IN 1850. IT WAS ARCHITECTURALLY SIGNIFICANT. AND IT HAS, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS THE FIRST BUILDING OF ITS TYPE, THE LARGEST BUILDING OF ITS TYPE BUILT IN IDAHO. SO IT'S HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT AS WELL. SO THAT'S HOW WE IDENTIFIED IT WAS IN THAT THAT SECTION 106 PROCESS. SO HOW IS THE CITY AS WE BEGAN THE PROJECT, SUPPOSED TO FIGURE OUT THAT IT WAS ELIGIBLE? WAS THAT JUST ON US TO BECAUSE THE BUILDING WAS OLD, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SUPPOSED TO ASSUME IT COULD BE AND FOLLOW THAT. I MEAN, WERE WE AWARE THAT IT WAS POTENTIAL? NO, I DON'T THINK YOU WERE AWARE. HOW WERE WE SUPPOSED TO DIVINE THAT? SO PART OF THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. THE IDENTIFICATION PROCESS IS TO LOOK AT THE RESOURCES AND IDENTIFY THIS, HISTORIC OR NOT, WHAT TRIGGERS THAT ACTION? OKAY. THE FEDERAL FUNDING. SO ANY PROJECT WE DO WITH FEDERAL FUNDING, WE HAVE TO SEE IF IT'S DOESN'T MATTER HOW OLD OR WHAT IT IS OR WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. GENERALLY, IF IT'S MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD THAN IT THAN IT CAN REALLY LOOK AT IT. BUT YOU SAY GENERALLY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO, BUT LET ME FINISH. SO HOW DO WE DECIDE ANYTIME WE USE FEDERAL FUNDS, DO WE HAVE TO CALL YOU AND SAY, YOU GOT TO RUN THIS AND SEE IF IT QUALIFIES? AND THEN IF IT DOES, WE GOT TO LIVE BY 106. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? YEAH, WE CUT TO THE CHASE ON THAT. WHAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD TO NOT BE SITTING IN THIS MEETING AGAIN. YEAH. COUNCIL MEMBER THE FUNDING OR SOMETIMES A PERMIT IS THE TRIGGER FOR THE PROCESS. SO IT'S A LITTLE LIKE DOWN THERE. WELL, I MEAN WHEN, WHEN YOU DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'LL SPEND YOUR ARPA DOLLARS ON THAT PROJECT OR THAT PROJECT IS UP TO YOU AND YOUR TIMING. BUT FOR US, WHEN YOU TELL US THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED A PROJECT ON WHICH YOU'LL BE SPENDING FEDERAL FUNDS OR USING A FEDERAL PERMIT, THEN IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION TO COME TO US AND DISCUSS THAT PROJECT AND THESE AND THESE PROCESSES. WE DO OUR BEST TO RESPOND TO YOUR TIMELINE. IN FACT, WE HAVE A VERY A VERY GOOD REVIEW TIMELINE. WE GET OUR PROJECTS REVIEWED IN IN IN AVERAGE NO MORE THAN SEVEN DAYS IN OUR OFFICE. SO WE HAVE A PRETTY QUICK TURNAROUND ON OUR PROJECT. REVIEW SCHEDULE. WE GIVE YOU THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU NEED DEPENDING UPON WHEN YOU GIVE US THAT INITIAL INFORMATION, AND YOU THEN DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WISH TO ALTER YOUR PROJECT TO AVOID THE IMPACT OR ALTER YOUR FUNDING SOURCE, BECAUSE OF COURSE, THAT IS AN OPTION FOR YOU AS WELL. YOU COULD TAKE THE FEDERAL FUNDS AWAY FROM THE PROJECT AND THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE PROCESS. SO IT'S UP TO YOU HOW YOU DO THAT. BUT BUT FOR US, WE HELP YOU IDENTIFY THE RESOURCE. AND I'M GOING TO BE SPECIFIC HERE AND SAY THAT WE ACTUALLY DON'T HELP MOST PROJECTS IDENTIFY THEIR PROPERTIES OR OR THEIR IMPACTS.WE HAVE DONE THAT FOR THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS, AND WE DO THAT FOR SOME OF OUR SMALLER PARTNERS. BUT WE DO NOT DO THAT FOR OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS. IT IS UP TO THEM. THE FOREST SERVICE, THE BLM, THE NAVY, THEY TAKE ON THE INITIATIVE TO STUDY THE PROJECT, ITS IMPACTS, THE IMPACTED RESOURCES, DETERMINE EFFECTS, ETC. USUALLY IT WOULD COME TO US WITH THE FEDERAL AGENCY HAVING DONE ALL OF THAT WORK IN ADVANCE. SO FOR US TO HAVE DONE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY IS A IS PART OF OUR ONGOING PARTNERSHIP. AND WE UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T HAVE THE IN-HOUSE RESOURCES TO HAVE DONE IT YOURSELF, WHICH IS WHY YOU TRIGGER THE PROCESS WHEN YOU INFORM US OF YOUR INTENT TO SPEND THE FEDERAL FUNDS. AND IN THIS CASE, WE WENT OUT AND DID A
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LITTLE EXTRA WORK FOR YOU TO HELP YOU IDENTIFY WHAT MIGHT BE IMPACTED BY YOUR PROJECT. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL HAVE A PLAN. AND SO A LOT OF THE WORK WILL BE AVAILABLE AS THE PLANNING GETS WORKED OVER TIME. SOME OF IT. AND MAY I JUST SAY ONE MORE THING, WHICH IS IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT THE PROJECT IS. IT MATTERS WHAT THE COLOR OF THE MONEY IS. THE OUTCOME MAY RELY ON WHAT THE PROJECT IS. BUT IF YOU'RE SPENDING FEDERAL MONEYS, WHETHER YOU THINK THERE'S A HISTORIC PROPERTY THERE OR NOT, IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION TO COME TO OUR OFFICE. SO. SO PLEASE DON'T PREDETERMINE WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT PROCESS MAY BE. IF YOU'RE USING A FEDERAL PERMIT OR SPENDING FEDERAL FUNDS OR FEDERAL LANDS, YOU SHOULD BE COMING TO US. DON'T DON'T MAKE AN ASSUMPTION WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT ANALYSIS. I KNOW LISA FARIS ALSO HAD A QUICK THOUGHT ON THIS, AND SHE YOU DEAL WITH THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK INTO THE MIC? SURE. I JUST I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY WHERE IT COMES IN ON OUR END. SO EVERY PROJECT THAT I GET THAT HAS A POTENTIAL TO HAVE TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, IT GOES THROUGH AN ELECTRONIC SUBMITTAL TO SHIPPO. SO THAT'S THAT INITIAL STEP WHERE WE PROVIDE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN HISTORICALLY ABOUT THAT, THAT FACILITY, THAT BUILDING.AND WE PASS THAT ON TO SHIPPO AND THEY CONDUCT THEIR REVIEW. SO IT'S DONE AT THE VERY BEGINNING, BECAUSE WE KNOW TIME IS OF ESSENCE. IT CAN TAKE UP TO 30 DAYS. RIGHT? YOU GUYS ARE VERY GOOD WITHIN TWO WEEKS OF GETTING THOSE BACK TO US SO WE CAN CONTINUE ON WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WITH OTHER AGENCIES. IT'S NOT JUST SHIPPO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH. SO THAT'S DONE AT THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IT'S ALL DONE ELECTRONICALLY THROUGH THEIR IRIS SYSTEM, WHICH IS AN AWESOME SYSTEM. IT IS. SO WE TRY TO ESTABLISH THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING. IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR FRANCIS, DO YOU HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE BEFORE COUNCIL? IT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION I WAS NOT CLEAR ON HOW THIS WORKS. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO A PROJECT SPENDING FEDERAL MONEY, WE COME TO YOU AT THE VERY BEGINNING BEFORE WE HAVE ANY ARCHITECTURAL CONCEPT OR ANYTHING. GO AHEAD.
ASHLEY. YEAH, YEAH. IF YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL CONCEPT, YOU CAN COME TO US AT THE VERY BEGINNING AND WE CAN AND WE CAN LOOK UP THE PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BE WITHIN YOUR PROJECT AREA. IF THE PROJECT IS HISTORIC, WE'LL LOOK AT MAYBE CONSULTING ADDITIONALLY ON HOW YOU COULD DO YOUR PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING AN ADVERSE IMPACT TO THAT FACILITY. BUT THEN WE MIGHT ALSO LIKE MOST CASES WHEN WE CONSULT WITH LISA, THE PROPERTY IS NOT HISTORIC. AND SO IF YOU SAY YOU WANT TO ADD A TWO STORY ADDITION TO A BUILDING OR SOMETHING AND IT'S NOT HISTORIC, THEN IT'S A NO EFFECT FINDING YOU CAN GO ON YOUR WAY. BUT WE WOULD RECOMMEND AT THE AS SOON AS YOU GET A PROJECT IN MIND, STARTING CONSULTATION WITH OUR OFFICE. AND I MEAN THAT REALLY THAT FIRST STEP IDENTIFICATION OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE CAN YOU DON'T HAVE PLANS YET. WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT WAYS TO AVOID THOSE IMPACTS TO A HISTORIC PROPERTY. IF YOU'VE IF YOU'VE IDENTIFIED YOUR NEED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE SOLUTION TO YOUR NEED, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU CRAFT A SOLUTION THAT AVOIDS UNNECESSARY ADVERSE EFFECT. RIGHT. SO IT YOU CAN COME TO US WITH YOUR PLANS INTACT. YOU KNOW, THAT HELPS US MORE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND HOW YOU'RE YOU MAY OR MAY NOT AFFECT PROPERTIES, BUT IF YOU CAME TO US WITH A GOAL RATHER THAN A SOLUTION, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP YOU FIND THAT SOLUTION IN A IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT THAT IT WORKS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RESOURCE FOR YOU AS USERS AND, AND THE PROCESS AS WELL. SO YOU COULD REMODEL A BUILDING AND IT WOULD STILL BE OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TO MITIGATE IN OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY OR CORRECT. YEAH, THERE ARE NATIONAL STANDARDS, BUT WE CALL THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHEN WE HAVE PROJECTS. IF A PROJECT MEETS THOSE STANDARDS, THEY NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BUILDINGS. AND IF NO ADVERSE EFFECT FINDING AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO MITIGATE AT ALL, THERE ARE I'M GOING TO THROW OUT A NUMBER. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PROJECTS GOING ON AT ANY GIVEN TIME THAT HAVE WORKED TO DESIGN THEIR PROJECT IN SUCH A WAY TO MINIMIZE OR WHOLLY AVOID NEGATIVE IMPACTS, EITHER ARCHITECTURAL OR HISTORIC IMPORTANCE OF THAT PROPERTY. AND THAT'S OF COURSE, THE GOAL FOR OUR OFFICE IS TO FIND A WAY TO GET TO A PROJECT THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT. IF YOU'RE ALREADY TOO FAR DOWN THAT PATH, AND YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO DEVIATE FROM THAT PATH, THEN WE GO THROUGH THIS ADDITIONAL PROCESS OF EDUCATION. BUT WE'D LOVE TO HELP YOU FIND A SOLUTION
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THAT GAVE YOU YOUR ADA ACCESS AND YOUR ADDITIONAL SPACE AND ALL OF THAT, IF IT'S POSSIBLE.SOMETIMES IT'S NOT. SO SOMETIMES YOU DIRECTLY CONSULT WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT'S BEEN HIRED TO DO THE DESIGN WE HAVE IN THE PAST. YEAH, WE ACTUALLY FOR THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, I THINK WE HAD OUR MEETING WAS OVER AN HOUR OF TALKING THROUGH MAYBE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO AVOID THE IMPACT, BUT THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A SOLUTION THAT THE ARCHITECT COULD LATCH ON TO AVOID THAT IMPACT. SO I REALLY TRIED HARD. THIS IS A GREAT A GREAT BUILDING. WELL, I THINK THAT WE'VE FAR OUT SPENT THE TIME THAT WE'VE SPENT MORE TIME ON THIS THAN I HAVE. MA'AM, CAN I SAY THAT WE WOULD GO AHEAD? I DO HAVE ONE THING. I WEAR SEVERAL HATS. ONE OF THE HATS THAT I'M WEARING IS THE HAT, AND WE HAVE A GRANT, $500,000 GRANT FOR A STUDY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACCESS GRANT. DO YOU KNOW THE ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT FEDERAL GRANT? IT'S CONNECT.
IT'S CONNECTIVITY OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS. ASSUMING THAT I MEAN, ASSUMING THAT WE ARE OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH ITV, THEY WILL BE THE LEAD ON THAT PROJECT. THIS WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD ENGAGE WITH. ITV WOULD BE. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE I THINK WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED CONSULTATION WITH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON THIS PROJECT, ON THAT, ON THAT CONNECTIVITY PROJECT. OKAY. YEAH. AND YOU AGAIN, AS A GRANTEE, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR, YOUR FEDERAL FUNDER EITHER EITHER IS TAKING ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY THEMSELVES OR THEY'VE GIVEN IT TO YOU AND THEY'LL BE VERY SPECIFIC. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WITH WITH THE SECTION 106 PROCESS. WE GAVE YOU THAT MONEY. YOU YOU TAKE THAT PROCESS ON. OR USUALLY IN THE CASE OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THROUGH FEDERAL HIGHWAYS, THEY WILL THEY WILL FACILITATE THE PROCESS FOR YOU. IT SEEMS INTERESTING THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MITIGATING IS A FEDERAL PROJECT THAT DISRUPTED A COMMUNITY. AND NOW WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT, LIKE WHEN WE PULL IT BACK, THAT THERE WOULD BE OTHER DISRUPTIVE AND COUNCILMEMBER, THERE MAY NOT BE AN ADVERSE EFFECT FROM YOUR PROJECT. IT IT DOESN'T THE PROCESS ISN'T HINGED ON WHETHER THERE WILL BE A NEGATIVE OR A POSITIVE OUTCOME. IT HINGES ON THE TRIGGER OF THE FEDERAL FUNDS, LANDS OR PERMITS. SO BUT IT'D WILL WILL GUIDE US THROUGH THAT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS HAS BEEN SO ENLIGHTENING. AND IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVE MANY PROFESSIONALS AND EVEN VOLUNTEERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. MARY, THANK YOU, YOUR PROFESSIONAL IN YOUR OWN RIGHT, IN YOUR CAPACITY HERE TODAY, YOU'RE JUST A CITY VOLUNTEER. WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO KNOW ALL OF THESE THINGS AND THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE'VE NEVER KNOW EVERYTHING. AND THAT'S WHY WE HIRE PROFESSIONALS TO DO WORK FOR THE CITY AND TO CARRY US FORWARD. AND THEY'RE ALL DOING THE THINGS THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. IN THIS CASE, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, I DON'T KNOW, A SHARP EDGE STUCK OUT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, I STUBBED MY TOE ON. AND, AND A COUPLE OF US WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT. AND WHEN WE ASKED QUESTIONS, I WEREN'T WE WEREN'T ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS OF STAFF TO GET THIS BIG, BIG OVERVIEW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A PIECE TOGETHER OVER TIME HERE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR THE FINE MANNER IN WHICH YOU'VE EDUCATED US, EVERYBODY COLLECTIVELY. AND I SAY THAT TO STAFF AS WELL. YOU HAVE ALL BEEN PATIENT. YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING MY NECK, BUT I'LL TRY TO BE YOUR BIGGEST FAN FROM HERE GOING FORWARD. NOW THAT I KNOW SO MUCH. I WAS ABOUT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL AND FROM YOU, MAYOR, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WE KNOW HISTORIC PRESERVATION RIGHT THEN. NOT MORE THAN ME, BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT IT'S A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE IN A WAY.
AND SO WE APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK. AND THIS HAS BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH. THEY'VE BEEN SUCH A WONDERFUL RESOURCE SINCE I'VE TAKEN THIS POSITION THAT I KNOW I CAN REALLY ASK THEM FOR ANYTHING, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS VERY KIND AND CONSIDERATE IN THEIR RESPONSES. I REALLY ONLY DO THE HALLMARK MOVIE VERSION WHERE, OH, LET'S CALL THIS CONSERVATION. PEOPLE DON'T MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THE BIG BAD BUILDERS AREN'T GOING TO TEAR DOWN THIS BEAUTIFUL OLD BUILDING AND THAT'S ALL, YOU KNOW. AND SO THIS IS VERY HELPFUL. AND STAFF, SORRY FOR TREADING INTO YOUR SPACE AND NOT APPRECIATING HOW MUCH PROFESSIONAL WORK IS ALREADY DONE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. MAYBE. CHERYL, I'LL JUST TURN TO YOU FOR THE LAST PART. CAN YOU JUST GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE IDAHO FOR 250 IN IDAHO CELEBRATION? THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT SHIPPO IS A PART OF, ALONG WITH OUR STATE TREASURER, MISS ELLSWORTH. AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME DOLLARS THAT WERE APPROPRIATED, SOME PULLED BACK, BUT THEY'RE STILL A ASSIGNMENT
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THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO SHIPPO TO SORT OF HELP TO COORDINATE THIS. YES, WE HAVE AMBASSADORS, BUT AMBASSADORS SEEM LIKE EVERYBODY COULD SIGN UP FOR THAT. AND THEN THERE'S A LOCAL PIECE TO WHAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THAT. SO ACTUALLY, I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING SHIPPO, BUT SHIPPO IS JUST ONE LITTLE CORNER OF THE IDAHO STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY. OKAY, NOT A LITTLE TINY CORNER, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE UNDER THE IDAHO STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY UMBRELLA. AND YES, OF COURSE, THERE IS A NATIONAL INITIATIVE AND THERE'S A LOT OF WEBSITES ON THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE AN IDAHO STATE WEBSITE THAT IS COLLECTING THE INFORMATION FOR THAT INITIATIVE, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THAT'S JUST A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AWAY. AND ACTUALLY THE CELEBRATIONS START LIKE JANUARY 5TH, 2025, YOU KNOW, AND WE WANT TO CELEBRATE A WHOLE YEAR BEFORE OUR TWO LIGHTS. SO A GREAT STARTING POINT IS GOING TO AMERICA. 250 IDAHO. YOU CAN JUST TYPE THAT IN AND HIT THE SEARCH ENGINE ON THAT WEBSITE. THERE IS A CALENDAR OF EVENTS. SO WE'RE REALLY ENCOURAGING ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE HAVING ANY KIND OF CELEBRATIONS. THERE ARE ALREADY SOME ON THERE. THERE ARE DIFFERENT RESOURCES WITH IDEAS. THERE IS BRANDING FOR AMERICA 250 IN IDAHO, THERE'S BRANDING YOU CAN USE. SO THAT IS SET UP IN A YEAR AGO IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THE IDAHO STATE LEGISLATURE DID APPROVE ABOUT 1.6 $1.8 MILLION, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, OF WHICH THE IDAHO STATE HISTORICAL SOCIETY WAS THE LEAD AGENCY THAT THEY HAD COORDINATED WITH THE IDAHO DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, IDAHO PARKS AND RECREATION, IDAHO PUBLIC TV, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS STATE AGENCIES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO AN AMERICA 250 I. IDAHO CELEBRATION PLAN. AND OF THOSE FUNDS WHICH THE LEGISLATURE DID APPROVE, NOT THIS YEAR, BUT LAST YEAR. THERE WERE FUNDS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF CIVICS PROGRAMING THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED THROUGH BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE, I BELIEVE, AT BOTH THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL AND THE LOWER LEVELS. THERE ARE FUNDS FOR IDAHO PUBLIC TV TO DEVELOP SOME DOCUMENTS. THERE WAS FUNDS FOR DEPARTMENTS OF REC FOR, I BELIEVE, A BOOK I BELIEVE THEY'RE PURSUING. AND ALSO WE ARE IN CONJUNCTION REDOING OUR HIGHWAY MARKERS. YOU KNOW, OUR HISTORICAL MARKERS THAT WE SEE AROUND THE STATE OF IDAHO. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN TOUCHED FOR DECADES, SO THEY TEND TO BE OUT OF DATE. AND AS KEITH, WHO IS OUR CONTRACTOR FOR IT, SAYS, YOU WOULD THINK THAT NO HISTORY OF NOTHING OF INTEREST HAS HAPPENED IN IDAHO FOR ABOUT 80 YEARS. AND ALSO AND I FORGET THE STATISTIC, HE'S REALLY FUNNY WHEN HE DOES IT. SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE 90% OF IDAHO'S POPULATION ARE MEN, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW, JUST SO IT'S JUST IT'S WAY IT'S TIME FOR REFRESH. SO WE ARE ALSO BRANDING THAT AS A GREAT AMERICA. 250 PROGRAM. NOW OF THOSE FUNDS, THAT WHICH THOSE FUNDS WERE ALL OBLIGATED BEFORE THIS LEGISLATURE MET. BUT THERE IS ONE SET OF FUNDS THAT WAS $600,000 THAT WAS GOING TO GO TO TANGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, NON-PROFITS IN IDAHO, WHICH INCLUDED CERTAINLY MUSEUMS. AND AS OUR DISTRICT SEVEN, I'M A I'M THE YOUR LIAISON, THE TRUSTEE FOR JUDICIAL DISTRICT SEVEN. SO BLACKFOOT TO SALMON AND CHALLIS OVER TO DRIGGS. YOU KNOW BASICALLY THAT THAT I SPENT ALL THIS TIME STOPPING IN AND THE CITY OF ARCO OR, YOU KNOW, THE MUSEUMS IN SALMON SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, USUALLY OUR GRANTS ARE LIKE, IF YOU'RE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THEY'RE LIKE $5,000.WE'RE SO HAPPY IDAHO FALLS GOT THIS $15,000 GRANT TO DO OUR HISTORIC PLAN OR STRATEGIC PLAN.
BUT YOU KNOW, USUALLY. SO THIS YEAR LEGISLATURE AWARDED $600. SO WE WERE GOING TO DO FOR TANGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS, WHETHER THAT AGAIN, WAS ADA OR SOME PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE KIND OF LASTING. BUT THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR MOVED JUST THOSE PIECE OF FUNDS BECAUSE GRANT WRITING, GRANT PROPOSALS AND WRITING AND AWARDS, THAT ALL TAKES TIME. AND THAT FUNDING HAD NOT BEEN OBLIGATED AS OF THE TIME OF THIS LEGISLATURE. SO THIS YEAR, THEY ACTUALLY DECIDED TO MOVE THAT FUNDING BACK OUT. AND IT IS NOW HELD IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE AND IS HELD BY A COMMITTEE. AND IT INCLUDES, LET'S SEE, MOSTLY LEGISLATURE, SECRETARY OF STATE, THE TREASURER. AND THERE IS ONE PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL. AND YES, JEN, OUR DIRECTOR IS ON IT. AND SO JEFF NYGAARD, THAT IS FAKE
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BANK IDAHO. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO HE IS OUR CITIZEN ON THAT. BUT THEY'VE DECIDED THAT, WELL, THEY REALLY HADN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WAS GOING TO WORK. AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FIREWORKS, PARADES, THAT KIND OF CELEBRATION. AND THAT COMMITTEE IS STILL MEETING AND DECIDING. AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE USED, BUT WE CAN ALL KEEP OUR EYE ON THAT BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US THERE FOR THOSE FUNDS. AND THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THAT THEN THIS COMMITTEE IS DOING. AND YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, ANYONE CAN BE AN AMBASSADOR AND THERE REALLY IS NO PARTICULAR DUTY OR OBLIGATION. IT'S JUST TO. AND I'VE GOT MY AMBASSADOR BUTTON IN MY BACK. I'VE GOT BUTTONS FOR THE COUNCIL. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. IT'S JUST TO SAY YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT IDAHO'S ROLE IN OUR GREAT AMERICAN HISTORY. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH PERHAPS WE WEREN'T EXACTLY PART OF THE UNITED STATES 250 YEARS AGO, WE CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE GREATNESS OF THIS NATION. DOES THAT HELP? THAT DEFINITELY FRAMES IT. AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. DID I CAPTURE THAT? ABSOLUTELY. YOU'RE THE YOU'RE THE CHIEF SPOKESMAN ON THAT.OKAY. WELL, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THE TIME YOU'VE GIVEN US AND YOUR GRACIOUSNESS IN ALL OF YOU AND HOW YOU'VE HANDLED TODAY AND TAUGHT US SO WELL. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY LAST WORDS OR QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? BECAUSE I'M EXHAUSTED. EVERYBODY. I THINK THAT'S WHAT I AND THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I'M SO APPRECIATIVE THAT DAN AND ASHLEY, THEY DROVE OUT HERE TODAY AND THEY'RE DRIVING BACK TONIGHT FROM BOISE. I MEAN BUT THEY'RE OUR STAFF ARE SO DEDICATED. AND I SEE THEM WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND THEY REALLY TRY THEIR BEST FOR THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR EVERYONE. I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH THEIR WORK. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING.
THANK YOU. AND WE ARE LEAVING PARTING GIFTS. SO IF YOU WANT A POSTER, IT'S RIGHT HERE. IF YOU WANT A STICKER, IT'S RIGHT HERE. IF YOU WANT BOTH, PLEASE HELP YOURSELF. AND IF I IF WE RUN OUT, THEN CAITLIN WILL TELL US HOW MANY MORE WE NEED AND WE'LL SHIP THEM OVER. THAT'S SO VERY KIND AND THOUGHTFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH, DOCTOR O'BRIEN. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND FOR THE VOLUNTEER WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AS THE CHAIR OF THAT THE OVER THE OVERRIDING RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU HAVE AS CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT, MARY. THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND TAKING TIME OFF WORK, IN FACT, TO BE HERE. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. CAITLIN, DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF VALUE THAT YOU ADD TO THE TO OUR DEPARTMENT? AND WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
ASHLEY AND DAN, FANTASTIC. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BE SAFE ON THE ROAD. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE ONE MORE PRESENTATION BEFORE WE WOULD BREAK FOR. GOING INTO A SERIES OF EXECUTIVE SESSIONS. BUT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A WHILE, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK BEFORE WE MOVE ON? OR DO YOU WANT TO MOVE RIGHT INTO THE NEXT PIECE? SHOULD WE PLOW ON? OKAY. ALL RIGHT THEN. SO YOU SEE LISA FARRIS COMING FORWARD WITH DIRECTOR CENTER. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA RELATES TO. SORRY, OUR CEG. OF A PAPER REPORT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. AND SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT TO LISA TO GIVE US THAT REFRESHER AND LEAD US IN WHATEVER WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF.
THANK YOU MAYOR. SO ON THURSDAY, WE'LL BE DOING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR PAPERS. THE CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL EVALUATION REPORT FOR 2024. SO IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW HUD HOW WE SPENT THOSE DOLLARS. AND IT IS REQUIRED. WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT AFTER THAT WE'LL HAVE A TWO WEEK PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND WE'LL CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS BEFORE WE GO IN FOR A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE 2024 CAPER, WHICH WILL BE SUBMITTED TO HUD BEFORE JUNE 30TH, IS WHEN IT'S DUE. SO IT'S A PROCESS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, WE'LL KICK OUT OUR 2025 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN APPLICATION PROCESS TO. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF CDBG COMING IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. DO WE TYPICALLY GET PUBLIC COMMENT THAT LOOKS BACKWARD? AND THAT IS VERY CONSTRUCTIVE OR VERY COMPLIMENTARY? OR IF WE DO, I INCLUDE IT, WHETHER IT'S COMPLIMENTARY OR IT'S NOT, I THINK IT'S PART OF THAT THAT COMMENT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, OKAY, COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CAPER, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE REPORT ITSELF AND THE FACT THAT IT IS SEPARATE FROM THE AWARDING OF FUNDS, THAT IT'S IT SURROUNDS IT. IT REALLY DRAGS US IN GETTING FUTURE AWARDS AS WELL. SO IF WE CAN SHOW THAT WE USE THE DOLLARS IN A TIMELY WAY, AND AS WE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE APPROVED AND THAT THAT LOOKS GOOD. SO IS THIS THE TIME THAT SOMEBODY IN THE COMMUNITY COULD SAY, I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH YOUR PRIORITIES? LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN EMPHASIZING HOUSING FOR THE LAST
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TWO YEARS IN THE PROGRAMS WE'VE BEEN APPROVING. IF PEOPLE ARE CRITICAL OF THAT FOR SOME REASON, IS THIS WHERE THEY PUT IT IN? I WOULD SAY THOSE COMMENTS FOR THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN. OKAY. THIS IS WORK THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED. WHAT'S BEEN DONE? OKAY, OKAY. I WOULD JUST ADD THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS WORK. AND WE DO IT AT THE STATEWIDE LEVEL AS WELL WITH THE GOVERNOR'S ECONOMIC ADVISORY COUNCIL FOR SOME OF THE SMALLER CITIES. AND THE REPORT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW HOW THE DOLLARS ARE SPENT, HOW CAREFULLY YOU SPEND THEM. I THINK IN THE AGE OF DOGE THAT MORE PEOPLE NEED TO READ THESE REPORTS AND UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH WORK AND EFFORT IT IS THAT YOU TRY TO EXPENSES, AND FOR EVERY YEAR YOU'VE DONE IT RIGHT, IT'S NOT JUST ONE TIME. SO APPRECIATE THAT. AND I DID SEND OUT A NOTICE FOR THIS YEAR TO THE MPA, TO THE NONPROFIT ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A REALLY BIG AUDIENCE THAT WE SEND THAT OUT TO. SO I THINK IT'S WISE THAT YOU MENTIONED DOGE, BECAUSE THEY'RE ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS, HEY, IT'S THE GOVERNMENT JUST GIVING OUT MONEY WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. AND THIS IS REALLY THE ACCOUNTABILITY ELEMENT TO THAT. YOU HAVE A SENSE THAT CDBG IS A IS A VULNERABLE FEDERAL PROGRAM. WE RELY ON IT SO HEAVILY IN IDAHO FALLS FOR THE GOOD THAT IT DOES.DO YOU HAVE A SENSE THAT WE MAY BE NEEDING TO WORRY A BIT ABOUT THAT? NO, I'M I'M CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR NEW GUIDANCE THAT'S COMING DOWN. I KNOW IT SOUNDS THE PROGRAM IS HAS GOT ITS OWN ACCOUNTABILITY BUILT IN. YOU CAN'T SPEND A PENNY WITHOUT IT BEING TAGGED SOMEWHERE. SO I CAN SEE IF IT'S GOING TO THE RIGHT CATEGORY OR WHATNOT. I DON'T SEE THE PROGRAM GOING AWAY. I SEE MAYBE SOME PRIORITIES SHIFTING WITHIN THE PROGRAM, BUT ACCOMPLISHMENT DATA IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO REPORT IN YOUR PAPER. SO THOSE FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT, HOW YOU HAVE REQUESTED THEM TO BE SPENT AND HOW THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BE SPENT. AND THAT'S BEING WATCHED. UNFORTUNATELY, I JUST READ THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET AND THEY HAD A SKINNY BUDGET WHERE IT SHOWS EVERYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, THEY PUT HEAD START, BUT THEY DON'T PUT DOLLARS NEXT TO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD SPEND YET BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S BEING NEGOTIATED. BUT THEY DID HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE BEING ELIMINATED BY THE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET AND WHY HE WHICH WE ADMINISTER AND CDBG WAS ON THAT LIST, BOTH ONE TO BE ELIMINATED. BUT PRESIDENT'S BUDGETS AREN'T VERY TRADITIONALLY, AREN'T FOLLOWED VERY CLOSELY. AND THE GOOD THAT THIS WORK DOES, I AGREE. I THINK WE HAVE A CONGRESSIONAL PARTNERS THAT WILL HELP, AND HOPEFULLY OUR RECIPIENTS WILL MAKE THEMSELVES KNOWN TO OUR FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES. YES, THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS MORE IMPORTANT THIS TIME AROUND THAN EVER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THIS IS ALL REALLY, REALLY GOOD TO KNOW. AND SO THURSDAY NIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL HAVE A HEARING AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE PURPOSE OF THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO EXPLAIN THAT. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE A NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. THOSE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS ARE JUSTIFIED. BUT IN THE LAW WE HAVE TO COMPLY OR MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. AND WE BELIEVE WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THREE SECTIONS OF STATE LAW. WE HAVE THREE SEPARATE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN OUR EXECUTIVE SESSIONS TODAY. COUNCIL, FRANCIS, YOU ARE USUALLY OUR MOTION MAKER. IS THAT THE CASE TODAY? DO YOU WANT TO DO THIS? WE DO NOT. WE'RE NOT DOING ANNOUNCEMENTS OR WHATEVER. OH, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT. GUYS, I'M SO
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SORRY. I'M SO SORRY. YES, WE DO HAVE AN APPLICANT COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE ONLINE. I HAVE FOR YOU. I'LL PUT THESE IN YOUR MAILBOX, BUT IT'S JUST BASICALLY THE OVERALL CALENDAR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SINCE HERE. THANK YOU. LOOK. AND ANYWAY, I HAVE A FEW COUNCIL CALENDAR ITEMS AND FOR YOU AND I'M NOT GOING TO DELAY RESULTS, BUT I WILL POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE. I HAVE THE BUTTONS FOR YOU. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM, THAT DOCTOR BRIAN JUST MENTIONED AND. AND COUNSELOR BURTON AND FREEMAN, I'LL PUT THOSE IN YOUR BOX THEN. I ALSO HAVE JUST A HANDOUT THAT I'LL PASS OUT. I'M NOT BEING VERY EFFICIENT TODAY.SORRY, BUT I HAVE A HANDOUT COMING TO US FROM. SORRY, JESSICA CLEMENTS, OUR PIO FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SHE HAS, I GUESS, THAT SHE WEARS MORE. SHE'S MORE THAN JUST THE PIO.
SHE DOES OTHER THINGS FOR THE DEPARTMENT. BUT SHE HAS DEVELOPED A PROGRAM THAT I'M KIND OF EXCITED ABOUT. I THINK SHE'S EXCITED ABOUT. BUT THIS WOULD BE A PLUG CAPS THAT SHE'S PUTTING TOGETHER, KNOWN AS COP SPEAK. AND THIS IS JUST SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT SHE'S CREATED FOR THAT. AND I THINK WE'LL START TO SEE THE FRUITS OF HER LABORS IN A WEEK OR TWO ON THIS
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PROGRAM. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED, YOU MIGHT THEN SEE A LITTLE MORE PUBLIC FACING MESSAGING COMING FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND SO THIS IS YOUR YOUR FYI ON THAT ONE. BUT AT SOME POINT, WHO KNOWS, SOME OF YOU MIGHT EVEN BE INVITED TO BE INTERVIEWED OR SOMETHING AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM. BUT ANYWAY, I WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THE CITY IS DOING AND HELP TO FRAME IT IN WAYS THAT AREN'T JUST MAYBE RECEIVED AND THEN INTERPRETED BY THE PUBLIC. WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU'RE ABLE TO FRAME THE STORY AND PROVIDE MORE OF THE INTENT AND MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC. SO I'M I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS. MOSTLY. I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN THE PROFESSIONAL WORK, EXCUSE ME, THAT MR. CLEMENTS DOES. AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE PRODUCT AS IT ROLLS OUT.MARGARET, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD WITH WITH WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING TO COME FORWARD? NO, I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY OF DOING OUTREACH. PODCAST HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL EXPLAINING KIND OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES. AND I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF INTEREST IN SORT OF CRIME AND TRUE CRIME, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ICPD TO, TO, TO SHARE THAT.
AND I THINK, JESSICA, MR. CLEMENTS WILL DO A FABULOUS JOB WITH IT. I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT HOW IT TURNS OUT. GREAT QUESTION. CITY ATTORNEY. ARE YOU LISTENING TO THESE BEFORE THEY GET RELEASED? I HAVEN'T BEEN INVITED TO, BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF LAWSUITS AND IN TALKING ABOUT ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS, THAT SEEMS LIKE A STEP THAT MIGHT BE PRETTY IMPORTANT. BUT I TELL ME, IF I'M THIS ISN'T LIVE, I, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T WANT I MAY HAVE SORT OF LEFT THE IMPRESSION THAT SHE'D BE TALKING ABOUT ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING AT ALL. JUST SORT OF HOW TO COPS SOLVE CRIMES. WHAT ARE THINGS? THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY KIND OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES TRUE CRIME PIECE. IT'S JUST SORT OF HOW DOES THAT PUT TOGETHER NOT NOT ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS OR ONGOING ISSUES. SO I APOLOGIZE IF ANYTHING, IF IT WASN'T YOU, IT JUST CAME TO MY MIND THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LOCAL THINGS THAT WERE WORKING ON. YEAH, THAT THE RISK OF WHAT POLICE WORK, THERE'S ALWAYS A RISK. I THINK THAT SHE HAS A PROFESSIONAL GROUP, THAT SHE WILL CONSULT OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHEN THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THERE'S AN ELEMENT OF TRAINING AND TRUST THERE. RIGHT? YEAH. I'M SURE THAT WILL BE FINE. YOU'LL. YOU HEAR THE CONCERN, YOU'LL WORK THROUGH IT. I TRUST THAT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS HAPPENING. YEAH, I'M ASSUMING I'M LEARNING WITH IT. AND I THINK I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND I DON'T WANT TO MINIMIZE I JUST THOSE PROTECTIONS. SO I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO BE THERE, THERE WAS A CELEBRATION LAST FRIDAY AT THE WHAT WAS IT THURSDAY LAST WEEK? SORRY. THURSDAY. THURSDAY, YEAH. AT THE MOUNTAIN AMERICA CENTER TO CELEBRATE THE. ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M GOING THERE THE DENEEN CUP. YES. THE FACT THAT WE HAD WON THE DENEEN CUP AND THAT WAS PRETTY EXCITING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE THERE UP ABOVE THERE WAS AN EAGLE CIRCLING FOR THE FIRST OR EXCUSE ME FOR 15 MINUTES RIGHT BEFORE WE STARTED. AND IT WAS JUST KIND OF A REALLY COOL SIGHT TO SEE. A LOT OF PEOPLE GATHERED WEARING TEAM COLORS AND THEN TO SEE A BALD EAGLE UP ABOVE CIRCLING. IT WAS KIND OF KIND OF A COOL THING. WE ALSO COUNCILMEMBERS THIS WEEK HAVE A THURSDAY NIGHT WORK SESSION.
THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING. I CAN'T RIGHT NOW ABOUT 24 ITEMS FOR THAT. NOT NOT A THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE HAVE A PRETTY FULL AGENDA FOR THURSDAY. AND SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AROUND THE ROOM AND SEE IF ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SHARE WITH EACH OTHER, ANNOUNCEMENTS WISE. AND THEN WE WILL MOVE TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ONLINE. SO COUNCIL BURTONSHAW, THANK YOU. JUST TO SAY THAT I WILL BE AT FIRE OPS TRAINING ON THURSDAY.
SO THIS IS MY FIRST CHANCE TO GO OVER TO BOISE. AND I'VE BEEN FITTED WITH THE GEAR AND THE MASK AND ALL OF THE BOOTS. AND SO I'M ACTUALLY REALLY LOOKING FORWARD. THEY MEASURED YOU FOR IT. YOU HAVE TO GO TRY IT ON. YEAH. NO, I GOT STUFF THAT WAS NOT FITTING ON THAT. WELL, IT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. YEAH YEAH YEAH I, I GOT FIT FOR IT. YOU'LL BE APPRECIATIVE OF THOSE APPLE SESSIONS I MEAN IT'S HEAVY, HEAVY STUFF. SO I'M LOOKING I'M REALLY ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED TO GO OVER AND DO FIRE OPS TRAINING ON THE WEEKEND. THURSDAY. HOW MUCH DOES
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A FIREMAN TOTING WHEN HE GOES INTO A BUILDING WITH WHAT SHE DESCRIBED, PLUS ALL THE STUFF THAT THEY WEAR THAT SHE DIDN'T DESCRIBE, PROBABLY ABOUT 60, 80 POUNDS, 65 TO 85 POUNDS. GOT A BIG OXYGEN TANK ON YOUR BACK AND A MASK AND BOOTS AND GLOVES. SO ANYWAY, I WILL BE THERE THURSDAY NIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY OF YOUR DEPARTMENTS? NO, EVERYTHING ELSE IS ALL RIGHT, COUNSELOR. I WOULD JUST MENTION THE LIBRARY HAS A DISPLAY RIGHT NOW. THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. THE MAYOR AND I WERE THERE AND GOT TO MEET PAUL REVERE. THE POTATO VERSION. THE.IT'S KIND OF FUNNY, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THE BADGES. AND I DID SIGN UP FOR THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM. ONE THING THAT I'VE TALKED WITH MY SISTER MICHELLE, AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION ABOUT IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, LIKE CAMERA CITY AND LIKE REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE THE BEGINNINGS OF THIS COUNTRY AND NOT HAVE IT BE.
HOPEFULLY, I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE COULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT CONTROVERSIAL, BUT BUT IN THEORY, THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN ALL KIND OF WORK TOGETHER ON AND BUILD TRUST WITH EACH OTHER. AND SO THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S PROBABLY THE ONLY THING. WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION, BUT SO I DON'T THINK HAVE A CHANCE TO CELEBRATE HENRY KNOX AGAIN. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. BOOKKEEPER BROUGHT THOSE CANNONS FROM. WE LOVED IT. YEAH. SO FRANCIS OKAY, SO PARKS AND REC, JUST REMINDER, FRIDAY, MAY 9TH IS THE ARBOR DAY, 1030 AT HERITAGE PARK. AND THEY HAVE SUNNY KIDS FROM SUNNYSIDE SCHOOL. AND THAT'S THIS FRIDAY. YEAH. 1030. YEAH. 1030 YOU HAVE 17 TREES THEY PLAN TO PLANT, AND THEN I FOLLOW UP QUICKLY WITH THE THING THAT PJ AND I MENTIONED AT THE BUDGET MEETING, THAT THE WORK FOR THE NEW REALLY IT LOOKS NEW THE WORKOUT ROOM AND THE LOCKER ROOM AT THE REC CENTER IS DONE. AND THE SKILLINGS FAMILY, OR THE PEOPLE WHO PUT UP THE $65,000 TO PUT TOGETHER NEW EQUIPMENT IN THE WORKOUT ROOM THAT HADN'T BEEN THERE BEFORE. AND THE LOCKER ROOM LOOKS LIKE A NEW ROOM. IT DOESN'T LOOK BEAT UP ANYMORE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE SKILLINGS FOR DOING THAT. I THINK THAT'S IT. OKAY. COUNCILOR, COUNCILOR LARSON, A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST, THANKS FOR THE PODCAST INFO. I LEARNED ABOUT THAT TODAY FROM CHIEF AND HER LIAISON. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE POLICE FOLKS REACHING OUT AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY DO AND, AND JUST, YOU KNOW, CREATE ANOTHER LINK WITH A BROADER COMMUNITY. ANOTHER THING. AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM KNEW ABOUT THIS, I DIDN'T UNTIL JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND THAT'S THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, WHICH HAS ALREADY STARTED. I KNOW LISA IS INVOLVED IN THAT, BUT I HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD MAYBE JUST INDIVIDUALLY AS OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS, PRESENT JUST THE PUBLIC AT LARGE. THIS IS A POLICE SYSTEM. YEAH. THAT'S A YOU KNOW, I'VE ONLY BEEN TO ONE MEETING BUT IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. SO NOW ANOTHER WOULD BE IMPRESSED. SIX MORE WEEKS OR FIVE MORE. SEVEN MORE. WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S A REALLY THERE'S A FEW MORE. YEAH. YEAH. A COUPLE THINGS ON ON PUBLIC WORKS. DIRECTOR JUST MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DO IN THEIR WHEN THEY'RE INVOLVED IN OVERLAYS AND THAT KIND OF THING IS THEY HAVE TO REBUILD THE ADA ACCESS BECAUSE THEY GET, YOU KNOW, THEY GET TORN UP AND THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T WORK. AND THAT'S KIND OF THE BIG DEAL. IT'S KIND OF EXPENSIVE. YOU KIND OF TAKE SOME TIME, BUT JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, THAT'S ALL PART OF THE PROCESS. THEY'RE THEY RECENTLY CONVERTED 312 ALLEY STOPS TO THE AUTO LOADER. SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MANUALLY DO THE THING ON THE TRASH. AND THE LAST THING THE COVE FORT, THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS IN THE AIRPORT IMPACT, I THINK THAT'S ALL PUT TO BED. I DON'T THINK THE CHECKS CASH, BUT I THINK ALL THE PAPERWORK SIGNED BY CHARACTERIZING THAT OR YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. WE'VE GOT THE DEEDS ON THE FAA APPROVED THE RELEASE. SO THAT'S THE BIT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THE. ALLEYWAY AUTO.
ORDER IS IT IS OR DID WE JUST FIND ONES THAT HAVE WORKS? ARE WE DOING THAT ACROSS THE CITY? I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FROM FAMILIES THAT. YEAH. WHICH WHICH IS IT GOING TO BE? ARE WE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING RID OF ALL OF OUR ROUTINES OR WHAT'S THE WHAT'S? I DON'T PROBABLY
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HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT. MY UNDERSTANDING, STREET PICKUP IN THE GREEN CANS, I CALL THEM, I THINK THEY'RE 95 GALLON CANS. THAT IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING IN BECAUSE. AND WILL THEY WILL PEOPLE GET THOSE PICKED UP IN THEIR ALLEY OR IN THE FRONT? I THINK IT'S IN THE FRONT STREET. AND EVENTUALLY WE'LL TRY TO GET RID OF THE ALLEY DUMPSTERS EVENTUALLY OVER THE NEXT 5 OR 10 YEARS. OR IS THIS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE COMPLETE BECAUSE THERE ARE PLACES IT HAS TO BE, BUT THAT AS MUCH AS THEY CAN. BUT WE AREN'T GETTING RID OF THE TRUCKS EITHER, BECAUSE WE USE THOSE FOR ALL THE BUSINESS, I THINK THAT. CAN I INTERRUPT HERE TOO? BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THEN THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD VISION, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY HAVE REAR ENTRANCE THROUGH THE ALLEYS. AND NOW THE ALLEYS AREN'T GETTING, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE CONDUCIVE ANY LONGER FOR A SMALL VEHICLE, AN EV, TO GO THROUGH THERE WITHOUT SOME KIND OF MAINTENANCE IN THE ALLEYS. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP RECENTLY. IN ONE OF MY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OVER ANDERSON BUSH. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE, OH, THIS IS FOLLOWING A PATTERN THAT WE NO LONGER CAN EVEN SUPPORT AND SUSTAIN. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT I THINK, OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES THAT WE LOOK AT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE ARE WE WILLING TO REALLY DO ON THE ALLEYS? THE ONLY THING WE'RE SENDING TO THEM IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY IDEA ABOUT SNOW. AND YEAH, LIKE SNOW REMOVAL. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL ACCESSING THROUGH ALLEYS. IT'S A THING WE LIAISON DISCUSSING IT WITH THE DIRECTOR, BECOMING A WEEKLY CONVERSATION. SO WHAT I'LL SAY IS WE DON'T QUITE KNOW YET, BUT THERE'S IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE FIGURED OUT BECAUSE IT'S CHANGE. WE CHANGE. YEAH.ANYTHING ELSE. SO WE'LL GO TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ONLINE. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO ANNOUNCEMENTS OR SHARING WITH YOUR COLLEAGUES? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
MAYOR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING EITHER. MAYOR. OKAY, WELL, COUNCILOR FREEMAN, WE KNOW YOU'RE UNDER THE WEATHER. WE HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER. AND, MICHELLE, WE HOPE THAT YOUR FAMILY MEMBER FEELS BETTER. SO. WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
[Executive Session]
OKAY, I MOVE COUNCIL ANNOUNCEMENT. YEAH. EMOTION. OKAY, I MOVED COUNCIL MOVE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BEING CALLED PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF IDAHO CODE SECTION 742061J TO CONSIDER LABOR CONTRACT MATTER AUTHORIZED UNDER IDAHO CODE SECTION 74-206A, ONE A, AND B IN IDAHO CODE SECTION 42061F TO COMMUNICATE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE PUBLIC AGENCY TO DISCUSS THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF, AND LEGAL OPTIONS FOR, PENDING LITIGATION OR CONTROVERSIES NOT YET BEING LITIGATED, BUT IMMINENTLY LIKELY TO BE LITIGATED. THE MERE PRESENCE OF LEGAL COUNSEL AT AN EXECUTIVE SESSION DOES NOT SATISFY THIS REQUIREMENT, AND IDAHO IDAHO CODE 742061B TO CONSIDER THE EVALUATION, DISMISSAL, OR DISCIPLINING OF, OR TO HEAR COMPLAINTS OR CHARGES BROUGHT AGAINST A PUBLIC OFFICER, EMPLOYEE, STAFF MEMBER, OR INDIVIDUAL AGENT OF THE CITY AND COUNCIL WILL NOT RECONVENE AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. SECOND, OKAY, MOTION WITH A SECOND IS READY FOR A VOTE. CITY CLERK, WILL YOU CONDUCT THAT ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR US, PLEASE. BURTONSHAW. YES. DINGMAN. YES. FRANCIS I. FREEMAN. YES. LARSON. YES.RADFORD. AYE. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. IT IS WHAT? NINE AFTER. WE'LL TRY TO CONVENE IN THE SMALL COUNCIL OR SMALL CONFERENCE ROOM AT QUARTER AFTER. I KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO BRING COUNSELORS FREEMAN AND DINGMAN INTO THE MEETING. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S A ZOOM SET UP OR IF WE'RE DOING TWO SEPARATE CELL PHONES OR WHAT WE'RE DOING, SO WE'LL FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT THAT'S HOW THAT'S GOING TO ROLL. IF ONE OF YOU CAN DO A THREE WAY CALL WITH THE TWO OF THEM, THEN THEY WOULD JUST BE ON ONE CALL RATHER THAN HAVING AN ECHO. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY.
HOPEFULLY SOMEONE HAS BATTERY LIFE AND WE'LL DO THAT. SO THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.