[Call to Order and Roll Call]
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          GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE IDAHO FALLS CITY COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCIL MEMBERS, I BELIEVE OUR COUNCIL PRESIDENT IS JOINING US VIRTUALLY. IS SHE ONLINE? SHE IS. GREAT. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER, AND THEN I WILL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLL, THEN. COUNCIL PRESIDENT BURTENSHAW. CHAIR. COUNCILOR. RADFORD. 
          PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR. DINGMAN. HERE. COUNCILOR. FREEMAN HERE, COUNCILOR. FRANCIS HERE. 
          COUNCILOR. LARSON HERE. MAYOR, YOU HAVE A QUORUM. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THIS IS GOING TO STRIKE YOU AS A LITTLE BIT HYPOCRITICAL, GIVEN THAT WE'RE STARTING THE MEETING LATE, BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T GET HERE ON TIME. I, YOU KNOW, I WAS PRINTING A LOT OF THINGS, AND IT JUST DIDN'T ALL GEL AT THE SAME TIME. LIKE, ANYTIME I'M PRINTING AFTER 230, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING. ANYWAY, I HAVE A REQUEST, AND THAT IS THAT WE TRY SUPER HARD TO BE FRUGAL WITH OUR TIME TODAY, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE TO DO THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE THINGS THAT WILL ENDURE BEYOND THE TIME FRAME LISTED HERE. I'M HOPING THAT THIS FIRST ITEM, THE RED BARN, MIGHT BE ONE THAT WE CAN DISPENSE WITH QUICKLY, BUT WE'LL SEE. AND THEN THE WE HAVE A FOCUS REPORT FROM PARKS AND REC THAT WILL START AFTER THAT. AND THAT REPORT, YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT IT'S REALLY TEMPTING WHEN WE START LISTENING TO A DIRECTOR TALK ABOUT ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THEY DO IN THEIR DEPARTMENT. IT'S A REALLY EASY FOR US TO GET OFF TRACK. AND I'M GOING TO ASK CHRIS TO BE SUPER DISCIPLINED ON THAT TODAY, SIMPLY BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS WE MUST GET TO. AT THE END OF THE MEETING, AS FAR AS UNDER MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, IT LISTS A RECEIPT OF MINUTES. AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT LISTS THREE ITEMS. AND I'D LIKE TO SWITCH THE ORDER AROUND. AND SO I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO. AND IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE WILL PROCEED WITH A DIFFERENT ORDER. AND THAT WOULD BE THAT WE'LL DO THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT FIRST. MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORT SECOND. AND THEN THE UPDATE ON ASPIRATIONS AND PRIORITIES. LAST, THE GOAL IS TO SAVE AS MUCH TIME AS WE CAN FOR ASPIRATIONS AND PRIORITIES TODAY. AND WITH THAT, IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR 
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OTHER COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT TO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, WADE SANDER, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MIKE KIRK, TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION. THAT'S BEFORE US AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. FOR. 
          THAT. I THINK. RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE'RE CLEAR ON ONE THING, BUT THIS IS THE CITY'S BEEN SERVED WITH A REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION OF THE UPTICK. CONDITIONAL USE APPEAL. AND IN THAT REQUEST, THERE'S FOUR ISSUES THAT YOU PIC RAISES THAT THEY WANT THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER. SO THE GOAL OF THE CONVERSATION TODAY IS TO INTRODUCE THIS TO YOU. STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING IN ON ON IT. WE WOULD HAVE BROUGHT IT TO YOU A LITTLE EARLIER, BUT WE JUST WEREN'T ABLE TO GET OUR ARMS AROUND IT. FOR THAT FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THESE ITEMS TODAY, BUT WE WANTED TO GET YOU THINKING ABOUT THEM IF YOU WANT TO. I KNOW YOU HAVE A TIGHT AGENDA TODAY. IF YOU WANT TO PUT THIS OFF FOR ANOTHER WORK SESSION, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU IN THE FIRST WORK SESSION IN APRIL. BUT WE WOULD THOUGHT WE WOULD BRING UP THE ISSUES, BRING UP SOME ARGUMENTS, SEE WHERE YOU WERE SITTING ON IT, AND THEN AT THE END OF OUR CONVERSATION, YOU MIGHT DIRECT THE STAFF WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. IF YOU'RE READY TO DENY OR APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION, YOU CAN LET US KNOW. WE'LL GET EVERYTHING READY FOR YOU IF YOU NEED MORE TIME. WE WANT TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION. WE'LL COME BACK AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION. BUT THE FIRST ISSUE THAT YOU PICKED IS RAISED IS THAT THEY ARE ARGUING THAT THE COUNCIL MADE A MISTAKE IN THEIR DECISION BECAUSE OF ONE OF THE ISSUES, ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT COUNCIL RESTED ITS DECISION ON IS THAT YOU HAD SUFFICIENT NOTICE FOR WHAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEAL WAS GOING TO BE BASED OFF OF DIRECTOR SANDERS NOVEMBER 21ST LETTER. AND THEY SAID THAT THAT THE COUNCIL MADE A MISTAKE THERE, BECAUSE THAT NOTICE DID NOT COME FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ITSELF. AND THE NOTICE THAT CAME FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ITSELF DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE 
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THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVOKED BECAUSE THEY HAD OPENED TO THE PUBLIC, BUT INSTEAD HAD SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE THEIR PERMIT REVOKED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A PROPER LANDSCAPING AND OTHER THINGS. SO I HAVE THAT HERE, A HANDOUT THAT I GAVE EVERYONE ON ISSUE, THE PAGES THAT COME AFTER WHAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS ISSUE ONE IS THE LETTER THAT DIRECTOR SANDERS SENT ON THE SECOND PAGE. THERE I HAVE A PORTION THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED. THOSE ARE THE ISSUES IN WHICH DIRECTOR SANDERS SAID THAT THE HEARING IS BEING CALLED BECAUSE THOSE CONDITIONS WERE NOT MET. THEY DID NOT OBTAIN SITE APPROVAL, SHOWING AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF THE SITE PRIOR TO OPENING TO THE PUBLIC, AND THEY DID NOT OBTAIN ALL BUILDING PERMITS, INSPECTION AND FINAL SIGN OFFS BEFORE OPENING TO THE PUBLIC. AND THAT IS WHY THE HEARING, WHICH ON THE FIRST PAGE THEY SAY THAT DIRECTOR SANDER WAS GOING TO BE HELD ON DECEMBER 17TH. THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR THE HEARING. THE SECOND DOCUMENT THERE IS THE LETTER THAT WENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AS REQUIRED BY THE LOCAL LAND USE PLANNING ACT THAT CAME FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ITSELF. AND I'VE HIGHLIGHTED A PORTION THAT'S IN THE PROJECT SUMMARY. AND IT SAYS A REVOCATION OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ISSUED ON JUNE 27TH DUE TO A FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS OF A PERMIT FOR AN AGRICULTURAL TOURISM USE. SO THEY ARE FOCUSED ON THE BOX BELOW. THEY SAY THOSE ARE THE ISSUES IN WHICH THEY WERE NOTIFIED THAT THEY MIGHT BE REVOKED. HOURS OF OPERATION, ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS AND LANDSCAPING. BUT AS COUNCIL LOOKED AND DISCUSSED IN ITS DECISION, THE PORTION THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IS WHAT THE NOTICE SAYS WAS GOING TO BE REVOKED THERE. SO ON ISSUE ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS OR HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OR IF YOU WANT TO MODIFY YOUR DECISION BASED OFF OF THEIR ARGUMENT THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH NOTICE BASED OFF OF THIS NOTICE AND THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT BY DIRECTOR SALMON, COUNCIL HAS ALREADY DECIDED IN ITS WRITTEN DECISION THAT THEY HAD INSUFFICIENT NOTICE. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU IF THE IF THIS ISSUE THAT THEY'VE RAISED GIVES YOU PAUSE OR IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW THAT I DO HAVE A QUESTION. YES, IT BUT IT SAYS NOT LIMITED TO. ISN'T THAT A PRETTY POWERFUL STATEMENT? I THINK THAT IT'S PRETTY POWERFUL. BUT THE OTHER PART OF IT THAT I THINK IS POWERFUL IS THAT IT DOES SAY THAT IT'S A REVOCATION DUE TO THEIR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THEIR PERMIT. SO I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF DIRECTOR SANDER HAD NOT SENT HIS LETTER THAT SPECIFIED THE TWO CONDITIONS THAT THE PERMIT WAS GOING TO BE REVOKED ON THIS. THIS NOTICE DOES SAY THAT IT IS BEING CONSIDERED TO REVOKE, DUE TO THEIR FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THEIR PERMIT. RIGHT? I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE I'M READING THE SAME THING, JUST WRITTEN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS, ONE MORE VAGUELY AND ONE MORE SPECIFIC. BUT IT'S ON THEM TO KNOW WHAT THE CONDITIONS FOR THEIR PERMIT IS. AND THIS PROJECT SUMMARY MATCHES ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT THE NEXT PARAGRAPH UNDER THE HIGHLIGHT IS, WHICH IS BASICALLY SAYING IF APPROVED, WOULD REVERT THE PROPERTY BACK TO THIS. RIGHT? RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT'S CLEAR ENOUGH TO ME. I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH IT. THAT'S TRUE, THAT'S TRUE. BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT YOU HAVE UP ON ME. THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT THEY'RE RAISING. THAT'S THEIR ARGUMENT THAT THE COUNCIL SHOULD RECONSIDER ITS DECISION BECAUSE WADE SANDERS LETTER WAS INSUFFICIENT NOTICE, AND THAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT NOTICE I'M PARAPHRASING HERE A LITTLE BIT. SO IS THAT THE LAW, THOUGH? BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE SIX. IT SHOULD COME FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IF IT'S SUPPOSED TO. OR IS THAT NOT SO THE LAW IS THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMEONE SUFFICIENT NOTICE, BASED OFF OF ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE BEING CALLED IN FRONT OF THE GOVERNMENT TO ADDRESS. AND SO IT DOESN'T SAY, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY THOSE PEOPLE. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IDEA THAT IT HAS TO COME FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT ITSELF. I THINK THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS THE CITY. GET A LETTER FROM ANYBODY THAT SAID THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WHO YOU'RE COMING TO ARGUE IN FRONT OF. 
          IT'S THE CITY. THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IS JUST ONE. IT'S A COMMITTEE MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMITTEE HAS A LOT OF SPECIFIC THINGS ABOUT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. WHEN THEY MAKE A DECISION. WHAT'S THE NOTICE OF REQUIREMENTS? THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THIS LOCAL LANGUAGE PLANNING ACT, IS THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOTICE OF A 
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HEARING WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. IS IT 15 DAYS, 15 DAYS PRIOR TO THE HEARING? WE TRY TO DO MORE THAN WHAT THE LAW PROVIDES. THAT'S WHY THE CITY DOES THIS LETTER. THIS IS NOT THIS IS THE LETTER THAT'S REQUIRED TO GO TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. NOW THAT YOU RECEIVED A COPY OF THIS LETTER TOO. BUT THEY ALSO RECEIVED DIRECTOR SANDERS LETTER, THAT WAS FAR MORE SPECIFIC. YOU DO HAVE A HEIGHTENED RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PERSON WHOSE PROPERTY INTERESTS ARE AFFECTED. AND SO THE QUESTION HERE IS GIVING ALL OF THE IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE LAW, THE QUESTION IS GIVING ALL THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES. DID THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT NOTICE TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO ADDRESS AT THE HEARING OR NOT? THEY ARGUED AT THE APPEAL THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT. COUNSEL DISAGREED WITH THEM. THEY'RE THEY'RE RAISING THIS. AGAIN, THEY'VE ESSENTIALLY NOT CHANGED THIS ARGUMENT. YEAH. I IN ADDITION, THE LETTER SAYS A REP AT THE LAST SECOND TO LAST THIRD, THE LAST PARAGRAPH, A REVOCATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS A SERIOUS MATTER. I MEAN, IT'S THERE'S A TONE TO THE LETTER THAT, IF READ, WOULD CONVEY THAT THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO LOCK UP AND THROW AWAY. SO I AGREE, THE ONLY THING IS THAT THE LAW SAYS IT HAS TO COME FROM THE BOARD, AND NOT FROM OUR DIRECTOR, OR NOT FROM THE THEN THAT'S SOMETHING. IT HAS TO COME FROM THE GOVERNING AUTHORITY, WHICH IS THE CITY. SO IT DOESN'T SAY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NO SUSPENDERS ON THIS ONE. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. THIS THE SECOND ISSUE. AND THIS IS A THIS IS ONE THAT THEY DID NOT RAISE AT THE HEARING. SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME YOU HEAR ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY'RE ARGUING THAT THE CFP SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN REVOKED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO DEDICATE ROADWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DEVELOPERS UNDER THE CITY'S CODE. SO I HAVE PUT SECTIONS OF THE CITY CODE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, AND I HAVE PRINTED OFF IN THIS HANDOUT A COPY OF IT, BUT IN PARTICULAR WE'RE LOOKING AT CHAPTER TWO OF, OF TITLE TEN OF THE CITY CODE, THE BRIDGE AND STREET REGULATIONS. IN THAT SECTION, DEVELOPER HAS A SPECIFIC DEFINITION, WHICH IS ANY PERSON OWING FEE SIMPLE TITLE TO ANY PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY THAT'S SUBJECT TO THIS CHAPTER. YOU ARGUE THAT THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE CHAPTER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUBDIVIDING THEIR PROPERTY, AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY AND DEVELOP PROPERTY HERE. SECTION TEN 2-3 EXPLAINS WHAT THE SCOPE OF THIS IS, WHICH IT SAYS THIS CHAPTER SHALL APPLY TO ALL, ALL LAND THAT'S ANNEXED TO THE CITY. AND EXCEPT EXCEPT AS EXPRESSLY PROVIDED HEREIN, TO ALL LAND CONTIGUOUS TO ANY STREET LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY, AND FROM WHICH LAND, PUBLIC OR PRIVATE ACCESS IS MADE TO SUCH STREET, OR FOR WHICH CITY PLAT APPROVAL IS REQUIRED UNDER TITLE 50, CHAPTER 13 IDAHO CODE. THIS IS A VERY BROAD APPLICABILITY. IT APPLIES TO EVERY PROPERTY, BASICALLY IN THE CITY THAT CONNECTS TO A STREET, INCLUDING THE U-PICK PROPERTY, WHICH HAS ACCESS NOT ONLY ON ROLAND DEAD, BUT ALSO TO MAKE MEAL DRIVE IN THE CITY. IN MY LEGAL OPINION, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE U-PICK PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORDINANCE. SO THEN THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY THEY? SO THEY'RE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE ORDINANCE AND THEY'RE DEVELOPED. THE NEXT QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMPANY. 
          AND WHAT I PUT UP HERE ON THE SCREEN IS PRETTY SMALL, BUT IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO FOLLOW ALONG HERE ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE PRINTED OUT ORDINANCE THERE, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED SECTIONS OF THAT THAT ARE IMPORTANT. AND REMEMBER THAT EPIC'S ARGUMENT HERE IS, IS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ANNEXING IN NEW PROPERTY TO THE CITY, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUBDIVIDING THEIR PROPERTY INTO THE CITY, THEY'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THIS ORDINANCE. HOWEVER, THE ORDINANCE IS BROADER THAN THAT. 
          IT INCLUDES THAT DEVELOPERS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH BRIDGES AND THAT ARE LYING WITHIN OR WITHIN, ADJACENT TO A SUBDIVISION OR WITHIN PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED, WHICH IS THE KEY WORD YOU'LL FIND THAT REPEATED THROUGHOUT THIS. SO SUBSECTION B SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF COLLECTOR AND LOCAL STREETS WITHIN OR ADJACENT TO THEIR SUBDIVISION OR THEIR PROPERTY. IF IT'S BEING DEVELOPED AND THE DESIGN OF ALL ARTERIAL STREET EXPANSION, WHICH IS THE ISSUE HERE. THIS IS IN SUBSECTION C, SHALL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY, BUT COULD TURN TO THE NEXT PAGE. THE 
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DEVELOPER SHALL DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THE ARTERIAL CLASSIFICATION AS DESIGNATED IN THE BMO ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLAN. THIS IS WHY IN THEIR. THIS IS WHY IN THEIR SITE PLAN, YOU PICK WHAT'S REQUIRED TO ILLUSTRATE ROAD ON ROLAND DEBT TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY FOR THE EXPANSION OF ROLAND DEBT. THIS SUBSECTION C BECAUSE THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS AND IT'S BEING DEVELOPED, AND BECAUSE THEY'RE DEVELOPING IT BY PULLING A PERMIT AND EXPANDING THEIR BUSINESS AND INTENSIFYING THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY, THEY ARE REQUIRED BY THE SUBSECTION C TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY TO SUPPORT THE ARTERIAL CLASSIFICATION. ONE ISSUE THAT'S IN OUR ROAD AND BRIDGE ORDINANCE, THAT IS, THE WORD DEVELOPMENT IS NOT DEFINED. 
          SO THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING THAT DEVELOPMENT ONLY OCCURS WHEN PROPERTY IS SUBDIVIDED. HOWEVER, THE WORD DEVELOPMENT IS DEFINED IN OTHER PARTS OF OUR CITY CODE. ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT ON POINT, THEY DO SHED A LIGHT ON WHAT THE CITY CONSIDERS TO BE DEVELOPMENT. SO IN OUR FLOOD CONTROL ORDINANCE, THE CITY HAS DEFINED DEVELOPMENT AS ANY MAN MADE CHANGE TO IMPROVED OR UNIMPROVED REAL ESTATE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, BUILDINGS OR OTHER STRUCTURES, WHICH IS THE ISSUE HERE. THEY'RE BUILDING A PIZZA KITCHEN. THEY PULLED A PERMIT TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS THAT WAY. AND THE IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE WE'VE DEFINED DEVELOPMENT AS THE CONSTRUCTION OR INSTALLATION OF ANY BUILDING OR STRUCTURE, WHICH IS, AGAIN, EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED HERE WITH THE U-PICK RED BARNS THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD AND EXPAND. THEY HAVE PLANS TO, ON THEIR SITE, PLAN TO BUILD STRUCTURES THAT ARE NOT YET BUILT. SO THEY ARE DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY. THEY ARE DEVELOPERS. SO IF YOU IF YOU GO BACK HERE AND THEY SAY WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT A DEVELOPER, THAT COUNCIL WOULD NEED TO FIND THAT THEY DON'T OWN A PROPERTY THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED IN THE CITY. AND BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO RECONCILE WITH OTHER ELEMENTS IN OUR CODE AND HOW THE CITY USUALLY UNDERSTANDS THE WORD DEVELOPMENT. SO THIS IS A NEW ISSUE THAT'S NOT BEEN RAISED BEFORE THE COUNCIL. I DON'T KNOW WHAT DISCUSSION YOU WANT TO HAVE ON THIS, OR IF YOU WANT MORE TIME TO DIGEST IT, BUT I'D STAND FOR QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THIS ISSUE. COUNCILOR FREEMAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS. SO UNCLEAR, IS IT ARE THEY ASKING NOT NOT TO HAVE TO PROVIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY, OR ARE THEY ASKING NOT TO HAVE TO DEVELOP THE ROAD? BOTH. OKAY. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE CITY'S DECISION TO REVOKE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS INCORRECT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED UNDER THE CITY'S CODES TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WAS THE ONLY OUTSTANDING ISSUE THAT REMAINED AT THE TIME THAT THEY WERE, THAT THE HEARING THAT THE HEARING WAS HELD SO THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WAS OUTSTANDING, THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE APPROVED IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO DEDICATED RIGHT OF WAY. IS THEIR ARGUMENT OKAY, THE WAY THAT CITY STAFF UNDERSTANDS THE ORDINANCE IS THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THEY OWN THE PROPERTY THAT'S ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF IDAHO FALLS THAT IS ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC STREET THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, AND THAT THEY ARE DEVELOPING THE PARCEL BY PULLING THE BUILDING PERMIT AND MAKING IMPROVEMENTS THEREON AND INTENSIFYING THE USE THEREBY. SO BASED ON THE WAY THEY'RE STATING THIS, THEY WOULD NEVER BE RESPONSIBLE. YES, BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY WOULD JUST CHOOSE NOT TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY EVER. 
          AND SO EVEN IF THEY HAD ELECTED TO BUILD. LET'S SAY, A BUSINESS PARK THERE, THEN THEY WOULD NOT THEY WOULD STILL NOT BE A DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SUBDIVIDING PROPERTY. SO IT'S A MATTER OF INTERPRETATION OF THE CITY'S ORDINANCE. THE CITY STAFF HAS USUALLY INTERPRETED THAT AS A REQUIREMENT TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY WHENEVER, WHENEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE PULLING THE BUILDING PERMIT, IN ADDITION TO IF YOU'RE PULLING A SUBDIVISION PLAT EITHER WAY. ONE, JUST AS A FOLLOW ON QUESTION, WOULD IT BE ADVISABLE FOR US AFTER THIS MATTER IS CONCLUDED, TO GO AHEAD AND DEFINE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR CODE? I THINK IT WOULD CLARIFY IT THAT DEVELOPMENT MEANS BOTH OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK THE ORDINARY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORD 
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DEVELOPMENT IS THAT IT'S NOT ONLY SUBDIVIDING, BUT IT'S DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS, IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR LAND. IN ADDITION, THERE'S A RULE OF STATUTORY CONSTRUCTION THAT LAWYERS USE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAW MEANS, WHICH SAYS THAT EACH TERM SHOULD HAVE A SPECIFIC DEFINITION IN OUR CODE, THAT THIS SECTION TEN 2-3, IT SAYS WE USE THE TERM SUBDIVISION AND WE USE THE TERM DEVELOP TWO DIFFERENT WORDS. NORMALLY, IF I WAS ARGUING IN COURT TO A JUDGE, I WOULD SAY TO THE JUDGE, WELL, YOU CANNOT SAY THAT DEVELOPMENT AND SUBDIVIDING MEAN THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE USED THE WORD SUBDIVISION TWICE, IF THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY MEANT. THEY USED A DIFFERENT TERM HERE. SO THE WORD DEVELOPED MUST MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT. AND WHAT CITY STAFF HAS INTERPRETED THAT TERM TO MEAN IS THAT IT INCLUDES OTHER ACTIVITIES APART FROM SUBDIVIDING LAND. IT ALSO INCLUDES THE PULLING OF A BUILDING PERMIT. VERY GOOD. WELL, SOMEBODY HELPED ME BY TAKING A NOTE THAT WE NEED TO CLARIFY THAT SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE TO GET THIS ON AN AGENDA. AND I GUESS I WOULD LOOK TO EITHER MARGARET OR CATHERINE ON THAT. BUT THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE WERE TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, YEAH, WE NEVER MET THAT DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CASE REQUIRED. SORRY. WHATEVER THEIR, THEIR, THEIR, THEIR ARGUMENT IS, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO REPHRASE IT, BUT WOULD WE THEN KIND OF OWE A WHOLE LOT OF SORRY AND HERE'S SOME MONEY AND PROPERTY BACK FROM ALL SORTS OF FOLKS THAT WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING FROM OVER THE YEARS. NO, IT'D JUST BE A CHANGE IN THE LAW. SO, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU CHANGE THE LAW IS THAT THE PAST IS THE PAST. AND WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD IS WHAT HAPPENS GOING FORWARD. OKAY. COUNCIL HAD SOMETHING TO SAY. 
          THANK YOU. SO CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY. WE SURE CAN. SO ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS THAT THEIR ATTORNEY MADE, WHICH PERSUADED ME TO EVEN LET THIS GO TO MEDIATION, WAS WHEN HE SAID THAT HAD THEY DEDICATED THE RIGHT OF WAY WHILE THEY STILL HAD A HEARING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, THAT THERE WAS THE OFF CHANCE THAT THEY WOULD DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEN STILL HAD THEIR. U-PICK LICENSE REVOKED, THE CUP REVOKED? I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE CITY WOULD EVER DO THAT, BUT IF THAT WAS THEIR ARGUMENT, IT WAS LIKE, FINE, YOU CAN DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY AT ANY POINT NOW, BUT IF THE CUP HAS BEEN RESOLVED NOW WE'RE GETTING A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ARGUMENT. SO IN MY OPINION, IS THAT THAT. IT WAS REVOKED. THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR PERMIT. THIS IS NOT A CITY PROBLEM. THIS IS A WALKER PROBLEM. AND OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM A DEVELOPER OR ANYBODY WHO INCREASES INTENSITY ON A PROPERTY. SO IT'S KIND OF THAT THEY ARGUED ONE THING TO GET TO MEDIATION, AND NOW THEY'RE ARGUING SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE. I, I DEFINITELY SEE THE. 
          THE SHELL GAME ON THIS. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS. SURE. THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE UNIQUE FROM EVERY OTHER PERSON THAT MIGHT DEVELOP ALONG RURAL IN DEBT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE UNIQUE. THEY'RE JUST SAYING THE CITY HASN'T INTERPRETED ITS ORDINANCE CORRECTLY. OH. MY QUESTION IS BACK TO THE FIRST SECOND. NO GOOD. THE FIRST STATEMENT DEVELOPER. YES. THE DEFINITION. ANY PERSON OWNING. THERE'S BEEN A COMPLEXITY AROUND THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROPERTY FROM THE BEGINNING. BUT THEY'RE NOT ARE THAT LIKE MY QUESTION IS LIKE, WHEN DO WE DETERMINE WHO THE OWNER IS AND WHO'S LEASING PROPERTY AND WHO'S JUST DEVELOPING A BUSINESS ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY? WHICH SEEMS TO BE CLEARLY TRUE? I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. IT IF THE OWNER DID NOT GIVE PERMISSION TO GET THE CUP, THEN THE CITY SHOULD NEVER HAVE ISSUED THE CUP AT ALL. THEY ARE NOT ARGUING THAT THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE APPLICANT, SO I'M NOT SURE THAT'S MAKES MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. THEY AREN'T. THEY AREN'T ARGUING AND THEY DID REPRESENT AT THE HEARING THAT THE OWNERS AND THE U-PICK OPERATION WERE IN CONCERT AND UNIFORM TOGETHER, AND THAT THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS REPRESENTING THEM AT THE HEARING REPRESENTED NOT ONLY THE BUSINESS, BUT THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY OWNERS AS WELL. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANY REASON NOT TO BELIEVE THE ATTORNEY. BUT DOES 
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THAT DEFINITION CAUSE US PROBLEMS IN THE MORNINGS? I MEAN, THIS ISN'T I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WHO TRY TO SELL IT WHO DON'T OWN PROPERTY. YEAH, I THINK THAT WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT THAT. ULTIMATELY, THE WAY THAT THIS IS APPLIED WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND SIGNS THAT DEDICATION FOR THE ROADWAYS AND TO NEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT IS, IT'S COMMON TO HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER AGREE TO THOSE THINGS. NO TITLE CHANGES CAN OCCUR WITHOUT THE PROPERTY OWNER. SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S A DEFINITION THAT CAUSES US MUCH GRIEF EXCEPT FOR THIS CASE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE? LET'S PROCEED TO ISSUE NUMBER THREE OKAY. ISSUE NUMBER THREE, IF YOU'VE READ THE LETTER THAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED, IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED. THEY'RE ARGUING THAT THE CITY ERRED IN REVOKING THE CUP FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. I'VE TRIED TO SUMMARIZE THE THREE MAIN THRUSTS HERE. THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THEY ARGUED THAT THE DECISION TO REVOKE THE CUP WAS ARBITRARY, BECAUSE THE CITY TOOK NO ACTION TO SHUT THEM DOWN WHILE THEY WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. I THINK THAT GOES KIND OF IN INTO SOME STRANGE PLACES. 
          THE RECORD ILLUSTRATED THAT THEY CBS WENT AND POSTED THE KITCHEN TO SHUT DOWN, AND THEN THEY OPERATED IN SPITE OF THE NOTICE. THEY ALSO ARGUE THAT THE DECISION TO REVOKE WAS ARBITRARY, BECAUSE DIRECTOR WADE SANDERS SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED THEM TO OPERATE FOR SUPPORTING THAT DECISION. THEY POINT TO A SEPTEMBER 17TH LETTER, WHICH IS IN YOUR HANDOUT, IN WHICH. 
          DIRECTOR SANDER. BASICALLY TOLD THEM THAT THEY HAD OPENED TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY WANTED THEM TO RESOLVE IT BY OBTAINING SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND REQUIRED BUILDING PERMITS IF THEY DIDN'T OPEN NOW, IN THE LETTER. DIRECTOR SANDERS SAYS THAT COMPLIANCE IS NOT COMPLETED WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF THIS NOTICE. THE OWNER OR OWNERS OF THE REAL PROPERTY THERETO SHALL BE DEEMED IN VIOLATION OF THE ZONING CODE AND BE SUBJECT TO THE PENALTIES AS SET FORTH IN TITLE ONE, CHAPTER FOUR, WHICH IS A MISDEMEANOR. REALLY, WHAT THIS IS, IS OUR ZONING CODE REQUIRES THAT BEFORE THE CITY CAN ISSUE A CITATION, A CRIMINAL CITATION FOR VIOLATING THE ZONING CODE, YOU MUST WARN THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT THEY ARE IN VIOLATION AND GIVE THEM 30 DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. YOU PICK IS ARGUING THAT THE 30 DAYS WARNING HERE THAT'S YOU KNOW THAT IS IN IN COMPLIANCE AND CONFORMITY WITH OUR ZONING CODE WAS PERMISSION TO OPERATE FOR 30 DAYS. SO THAT'S THEY'RE THEY'RE ARGUING THAT REVOKING THE CUP AFTER WADE SANDER GAVE THEM PERMISSION TO OPERATE FOR 30 DAYS IS ARBITRARY, CAPRICIOUS. SO THAT'S THEIR ARGUMENT. 
          THEY'RE I THINK YOU ALREADY SPOKE TO THE QUESTION, BUT THE CODE REQUIRES A 30 DAY. YES. SO WE DID UNDER CODE, IT WAS AN OPTION TO DO IT. 30 DAYS. WELL, THE 30 DAYS IS REALLY TO GET INTO COMPLIANCE. AND SO THE COMPLIANCE HERE WOULD BE TO STOP OPERATING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THE ZONING CODE COVERS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, SOME OF WHICH MAY NOT BE IMMEDIATELY CURABLE. THE CODE GRANTS 30 DAYS TO COME TO COMPLIANCE IS AN INCENTIVE FOR SOMEBODY TO COMPLY WITH THE CODE. IT'S INSTEAD OF BEING HIT WITH A HAMMER. MAYBE THAT DOESN'T WORK VERY WELL FOR A BUSINESS THAT PLANS TO BE OPEN FOR 30 DAYS OR LESS. BUT IT IS. IT IS THE LAW. AND IF THE CITY ISSUED A MISDEMEANOR CITATION ON DAY ONE THAT THEY WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE, IT WOULD COME TO A COURT AND SAY TO A JUDGE, THE CITY DIDN'T FOLLOW ITS RULES BY GIVING US 30 DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. IT'S A VERY STRANGE ISSUE BECAUSE THE CITY CANNOT SEND THEM A NOTICE THAT THEY'RE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH BEING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC UNTIL THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THEY WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THE CITY SENT A NOTICE IMMEDIATELY THAT THEY WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. SAY YOU HAVE 30 DAYS TO COME INTO CONFORMANCE, AND YOU PICK IS ARGUING THAT THE 30 DAYS WAS PERMISSION TO OPERATE FOR 30 DAYS, NOT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE IMMEDIATELY, BUT PERMISSION TO OPERATE FOR 30 DAYS AND THEN TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS AN INTERESTING WAY TO READ THAT. NOTICE THE THIRD ISSUE THEY RAISE HERE, OR THE THIRD SUB ISSUE IS THAT THEY THE DECISION TO REVOKE THE CUP WAS ARBITRARY BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY 
          [00:30:06]
LIMITED THE SCOPE OF THE CITY'S SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS TO LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ONLY, AND THAT'S BASED UPON THE LETTER THAT I SENT BACK IN SEPTEMBER. SO SEPTEMBER 11TH, I SENT A LETTER TO ALISON SHERLING, WHO HAD CALLED MY OFFICE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ME ON WHAT THEY NEEDED TO SUBMIT FOR THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, THE COUNCIL HAD HAD A APPEAL ON THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN WHICH THEY WERE SEEKING A VARIANCE FROM THE CITY'S LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION THERE ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING ISSUES. 
          AND. WHAT THE REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION ALLEGES IS THAT THIS CONVERSATION THAT I HAD AND THIS LETTER THAT I SENT TOLD THEM THAT IF THEY SUBMITTED CERTAIN LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS, THAT THEY WOULD BE APPROVED, THEIR SITE PLAN WOULD BE APPROVED, AND THAT AFTER THEY HAD THEIR CONVERSATION WITH ME, THEY SUBMITTED THEIR SITE PLAN TO CDS AND THE CITY SENT IT BACK WITH 40 NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT HAD TO BE ADDRESSED. THIS IS A NEW ARGUMENT THAT THEY DIDN'T RAISE AT THE HEARING. I GUESS WHAT I WOULD COUNTER HERE IS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY LACKS THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO CHANGE THE LAW ON HIS OWN, THAT THE LAW MAKING POWER TO THE CITY IS RESERVED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THE LAW. THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN DO HIS BEST TO UNDERSTAND IT AND EXPLAIN IT, BUT THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN'T JUST REVOKE A SECTION OF THE CITY'S ORDINANCES AND CODES BECAUSE HE SENDS A LETTER. I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. IF YOU WANT TO DIG THROUGH THIS LETTER. THIS LETTER WE WAS MY ATTEMPT TO DOCUMENT A CONVERSATION ABOUT THINGS THAT I SAID SO THAT LATER ON, WHEN I THOUGHT WE MIGHT HAVE A DISPUTE. I DO THIS COMMONLY. OFTENTIMES I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY. I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH A LETTER TRYING TO ESTABLISH ON PAPER WHAT IT WAS THAT I THOUGHT WAS SAID. I THINK THE LETTER STANDS FOR ITSELF. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE LETTER DOES SAY IS THAT. IT IS THE CITY'S POSITION THAT YOU PICK. RED BARN MUST FOLLOW AND ABIDE THE CONDITIONS IMPOSED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO OPERATE. FAILURE TO ADHERE TO THE CONDITIONS IS A VIOLATION OF THE CITY'S ZONING CODE, PUNISHABLE BY A MISDEMEANOR PENALTY. IN ADDITION, OFFERING THE RED BARN BUSINESS TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT COMPLYING WITH THE CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT SHALL BE CAUSE FOR THE CITY TO TERMINATE THE APPROVAL OF THE PERMIT. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY FELT LIKE WHEN I WROTE THIS LETTER, THE FIRST PAGE OF THE LETTER, I DISCUSSED A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPING VARIANCES THAT THE COUNCIL HAD ADJUSTED. THAT, AND I THINK THAT THE PARTICULAR PART OF THE LETTER THAT THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTING THAT SUGGESTED SOMEHOW THE SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS IS ON THE SECOND PAGE OF THE LETTER. ON THE BOTTOM PART. WHAT I WROTE WAS WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT YOU PICK RED BARN WOULD SUBMIT THE SITE PLAN TO THE CITY AS PREPARED BY YOUR ENGINEER. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD ADDRESS LANDSCAPING ON THE EAST AND WEST, AND IDENTIFY THE TREES THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THE NORTH. THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT FOR THE EAST AND WEST WILL BE MET BY EITHER BARK OR DECORATIVE ROCK FROM THE EAST AND WEST, INCLUDING THE CLUSTERING OF TREES. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TREES ON THE WEST WILL NOT BE PLANTED UNTIL THE SPRING OF 2025, BUT THE TREES WILL BE DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN. IT IS ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY AGREED THAT THE TREES CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE EAST, ON THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, WOULD SATISFY THE TREE REQUIREMENT, PROVIDED THAT OTHER LANDSCAPING FEATURES SUCH AS BUSHES, HEDGES OR OTHER DECORATIVE PLANTINGS WERE INCORPORATED INTO THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING. SOUTH OF THE RESIDENTIAL CORNER. WE ALSO DISCUSSED THAT THE SIDEWALK AND RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS TO ROLAND AVENUE WOULD ALSO BE DEPICTED ON THE SITE. PLAN. THIS IS PORTION OF MY LETTER THAT THEY SAY ADJUSTED THE SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS AND THAT THE CITY WAS ARBITRARY, IN WHICH IT DENIED THE SITE PLAN, THAT ON ISSUES THAT WENT BEYOND THOSE THAT I HAD PUT IN MY LETTER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO WITH THAT. ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS AN ARGUMENT THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT THEY RAISED AT THE HEARING 
          [00:35:04]
THAT THE PROCESS TO GET APPROVAL WAS TOO HARD AND TOO DIFFICULT. YOU KNOW, THE VERY FIRST OR VERY SECOND WORD IN THAT PARAGRAPH THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED IS ALSO THAT CERTAINLY SUGGESTS THAT THERE WAS MORE PERIOD. AND THE END OF THAT ARGUMENT TO MY MIND. BUT COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO'LL BE VOTING HERE. SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? SO IS IT FAIR TO CHARACTERIZE THIS AS A RESPONSE TO A SPECIFIC QUESTION, DEALING WITH LANDSCAPE, WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WAS FOCUSED A LOT ON THE LANDSCAPING, AND THAT THEY WERE STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND THAT LANDSCAPE. AND THEY'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          THEY WERE FRUSTRATED WITH THAT. THAT'S WHY I GOT THE CALL AND I HAD HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS. 
          YOU CAN TELL THAT I HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH CDS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LANDSCAPING. AND SO. THE, THE, THE WAY I GOT TO UNDERSTAND IT WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE, WITH THE STAFF AND WITH CITY STAFF TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EVERYBODY HAD AGREED TO, TO, TO KIND OF MAKE THAT WORK. NOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE IN A SITE PLAN. WE NEED TO SHOW WHERE YOUR BUILDINGS ARE. YOU NEED TO SHOW WHERE THE ROAD GRADES ARE, AND YOU NEED TO SHOW THE UTILITIES. THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ELEMENTS BESIDES THE LANDSCAPING, ALTHOUGH IT MAY BE FAIR TO SUGGEST THAT YOU PICK ROUTES UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT ONLY LANDSCAPING IS REQUIRED, I DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE A CHECKLIST. IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR A SITE PLAN YOU PICK WAS PROVIDED THAT CHECKLIST. IT NEVER ARGUED THAT THEY WEREN'T. AND IT IS. IT IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO PUT IN A SITE PLAN TOGETHER, AND EVERYONE'S PRETTY MUCH ON NOTICE. I'LL NOTE THAT OUR ENGINEER IS AN ENGINEER WHO HAS DONE MANY, MANY SITE PLANS FOR OTHER CUSTOMERS WITH THE CITY, AND THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS. SO I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS THAT THIS LETTER WAS IN RESPONSE TO A CONCERN ABOUT A PARTICULAR PORTION OF WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT WASN'T MEANT TO COVER THE ENTIRE LIST OF THINGS THAT WERE ON THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. NO. OKAY. AND IT WAS JUST DOCUMENTING THAT CONVERSATION. OTHER QUESTIONS OR CAN WE MOVE ON TO ISSUE FOUR? OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. OKAY. SO ISSUE FOUR IS A NEW ISSUE THAT'S BEEN RAISED FOR THE FIRST TIME. IS IT SAYS THAT THE CITY CANNOT READ. ESSENTIALLY THE ARGUMENT IS THE CITY CANNOT REVOKE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. NOW THAT THEY'VE MET THE SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT. AND IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY HAS, EXCEPT FOR AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL DEDICATE ROAD OF ROAD DEDICATION REQUIREMENT. SO THE DEDICATION IS AN EXACTION IS WHAT WE CALL IT IN THE LAW. EXACTIONS ARE PERMITTED WHEN THERE IS A RATIONAL CONNECTION TO THE BURDEN THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS SEEKING TO AVOID. AND THERE'S ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY TO THE IMPACT OF THE BURDEN AND THE REQUIRED DEDICATION. YUP'IK IS ARGUING, BUT NOT IN THOSE WORDS, THAT A BUSINESS THAT IS OPEN FOR SIX MONTHS OR SIX WEEKS CANNOT BE REQUIRED TO DEDICATE RIGHT OF WAY. AND WHAT I AM READING BETWEEN THE LINES THERE, I'M SURE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT THERE IS NO BURDEN BEING PLACED ON THE CITY'S ROADS THAT PROPORTIONAL TO THE REQUIREMENT TO DEDICATE THE RIGHT OF WAY. ROLAND DEBT IS A ROAD THAT HAS AN AVERAGE OF 6000 CARS ON IT PER TRIP. AT THE TESTIMONY THAT WAS PRESENTED DURING THE HEARINGS, YOU STATED THAT THEY HAVE OVER 20,000 PEOPLE WHO COME AND VISIT IT DURING THOSE SIX WEEKS. THAT WOULD ADD AT LEAST A FEW HUNDRED, MAYBE, MAYBE EVEN MORE TRIPS A DAY ON THE ROADS WHILE THEY ARE THERE FOR THE IF, EVEN IF YOU JUST TOOK THAT 20,000 AND DIVIDE IT BY A THIRD. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS OF TRIPS DURING A PERIOD. ALSO DURING THE HEARINGS, YOU HEARD THAT THE ROADWAYS WHILE THEY'RE IN OPERATION ARE CONGESTED AND THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE, AND THAT IN PARTICULAR, ROLAND, DEBT IS A DANGEROUS PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS AND TO TRAVEL. 
          WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE CAR. SO THERE IS A RATIONAL CONNECTION TO THE BURDEN THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS SEEKING TO AVOID, WHICH IS A CONGESTED ROLAND DEBT. THAT IS WHY THE 
          [00:40:03]
DEDICATION IS BEING REQUIRED. AND THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THERE'S A PROPORTIONALITY TO THE IMPACT. I MEAN, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION OTHER THAN THIS IS ALSO WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT AND REQUIRE FROM SOMEONE TO DEDICATE FOR ANY BUSINESS THAT WAS EXPANDING AND DEVELOPING. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD THAT WAS PRODUCED NOT JUST BY THE CITY, BUT WITH IN CONCERT WITH THE MPO, THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN ROADS DUE TO THE WAY THAT THE TRAFFIC FLOWS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE MORE TRAFFIC AND DEMAND ON THEM, AND THAT IN PARTICULAR WHEN BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED ON THOSE ROADS DEVELOP AND INCREASE THEIR INTENSITIES, THAT WE WOULD EXPECT THEM TO NEED TO BE DEVELOPED TO THE CURRENT RECOMMENDED STANDARD, THAT IS THE ARTERIAL STANDARD. SO ROLAND DEBT IS ONE OF THOSE UNDERDEVELOPED ROADS THAT WAS DEVELOPED. A LONG TIME AGO, AND IT DOESN'T MEET WHAT THE RECOMMENDED STANDARD IS NOW. 
          THAT IS WHY WHEN NEW PROPERTIES COME IN AND DEVELOP ALONG ROLAND DEBT, THE CITY REQUIRES A DEDICATION OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT WE CAN GET THE ROAD TO THE LEVEL IT NEEDS TO BE AT HERE. WE'RE REQUIRING THAT DEDICATION BECAUSE THE BUSINESS IS EXPANDING AND INVITING MORE TRAFFIC ONTO THAT ROAD, ALBEIT FOR A LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME. SO SHORT OF SOME ARGUMENT OF WHAT A ROAD PROPORTIONALITY OUGHT TO BE. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THIS ONE EXACTLY. THAT'S WHY I DON'T HAVE ANY ATTACHMENTS TO PROVIDE FOR YOU. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION FROM THE COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION FROM YOU ON THIS, I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN ANY LEGAL ARGUMENTS. THIS HAS HAPPENED AROUND THE STATE OF IDAHO. IT IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. AND THEN IF THERE IS ANYONE ELSE WHO'S EVER DEALT WITH THIS IN AN ORDINANCE, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE DO VISIT THE ZOO AND WE PROBABLY HAVE WAY MORE THAN 20,000 TRIPS THERE. SO WHAT'S THE IS IT SIX WEEKS OR ONE WEEKEND LIKE FOR ME, ONE WEEKEND SEEMS CLEARLY WE SHOULDN'T DO IT. SO THEN SIX WEEKS IS IT IS LONGER AND IT'S GETTING THERE, BUT IS IT TOTALLY THERE? SO X ACTIONS ARE NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE YOU'RE HOLDING AN EVENT. THEY'RE REQUIRED BECAUSE YOU'RE INTENSIFYING DEVELOPMENT. SO WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE YOU TO DEDICATE ANY LAND IF IT HAD STAYED A PUMPKIN PATCH, BUT INSTEAD IT HAS TURNED INTO KIND OF A KIND OF AN OCTOBER OUTDOOR AMUSEMENT AMUSEMENT PARK. YEAH, I DO JUST THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION, BUT IT'S SO MUCH SHORTER BECAUSE IT ISN'T ADDING THE SAME BURDEN AS IF IT IF IT WAS THERE FULL TIME ALL YEAR, THEN IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT BURDEN TO THE ROADS AND IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ADDING TO THAT IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT'S GOING TO BE THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR YEARS ALSO. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR DECADES. YOU ALSO DON'T WANT TO LEAVE A HOLE OR A SPACE THERE THAT NEVER GETS DEVELOPED BECAUSE OR NOT. SO I TOLD YOU, I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. ALL RIGHT. SO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THEN I WOULD ENTERTAIN EITHER A SUGGESTION THAT YOU NEED MORE TIME OR A MOTION IF YOU WANT TO JUST MOVE FORWARD. I WILL DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK WITH RATIONALIZATIONS TO DENY RECONSIDERATION. OKAY. WILL THAT WORK? WE CAN DO THAT. I CAN PREPARE A WRITTEN ANALYSIS THAT YOU COULD ADOPT. ARE YOU ASKING ME TO BE A LITTLE HARD WITHOUT HEARING MORE DELIBERATION? BUT. WELL, MAYBE I DON'T. I COULD JUST MAKE THIS. WE DENY RECONSIDERATION. ALL RIGHT, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. AND THEN WHAT ABOUT MEDIATION? SHOULD THIS HAVE ANY. IT DOESN'T AFFECT MEDIATION. I, I WAS TOLD BY THEIR ATTORNEY THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE THEIR RIGHTS TO SUE THE CITY. YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THEY HAVE FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY THAT THEY HAVE NOT SERVED ON THE CITY. THERE'S A DISTINCTION THERE. A LEGAL DISPUTE DOESN'T REALLY BEGIN UNTIL THE OTHER PARTIES PUT ON NOTICE OFFICIALLY THAT THEY RECEIVED IT. WE'RE NOT EVEN THOUGH THE ATTORNEY HAS CALLED ME. MR. COOPER'S CALLED ME AND TOLD ME THAT HE'S FILED A LAWSUIT. THE CITY IS NOT OFFICIALLY ON NOTICE UNTIL THE CLERK RECEIVES A SUMMONS AND COMPLAINT, BUT THEY HAVE FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY. HE TOLD ME THAT WAS TO PUT THE CITY MORE OR LESS ON EVEN GROUND. WHEN WE MEDIATE, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN PUT IN AN UNFAIR POSITION BY HAVING THE CUP REVOKED, THAT UNLESS THEY AGREE TO THE CITY'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL DEMAND FOR A RIGHT OF WAY, THAT THEY WILL HAVE THEIR CUP PERMANENTLY DENIED. SO THERE'S NO REASON TO WAIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THAT, RIGHT? WE CAN MAKE THIS. YOU CAN MAKE THIS DECISION. IT'S WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS BEFORE THE CLOCK FOR JUDICIAL REVIEW LAPSES. SO THIS JUST 
          [00:45:06]
MOVES THAT FURTHER ALONG. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED BY COUNCIL. 
          CAN I GET SOME CLARITY ON WHAT THE MOTION ENDED UP BEING. BECAUSE DENY DENY. THE COUNCIL DENIES RECONSIDERATION OKAY. THANK YOU FRANCIS. SECONDED BY MICHELLE. WANT HIM TO WRITE. NO. 
          HE MODIFIED THAT BECAUSE. OH IT'S JUST GOING TO DELAY THE I THINK I WILL BRING YOU A WRITTEN DENIAL. YES. YOU STILL DO NEED TO DO IT IN WRITING. SO. ALL RIGHT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK THE CITY CLERK. UNLESS ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK YOU TO CALL THE ROLL ON THIS PARTICULAR MOTION. BURTONSHAW. YES, BRADFORD. ALL RIGHT. DAMON. YES. FREEMAN. YES. 
          FRANCIS I. LARSON. YES. MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. A LOT OF STAFF TIME WE PUT INTO THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, AND IT'S APPARENTLY NOT OVER YET, BUT HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF PROFESSIONAL TIME. ALL BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTS TO READ THE LAW DIFFERENTLY THAN EVERYONE ELSE. 
          AND I'M. FRUSTRATED THAT I AM VERY FRUSTRATED. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SANDERS. YOU WERE THERE, AND I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE SPENDING. I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A PRESENCE. I WAIT, IT'S MY SECURITY BLANKET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE 
          [Parks & Recreation]
AGENDA IS A REPORT. THIS IS A PART TWO FROM THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. THIS IS THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT HAS A PART TWO. AND IT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE PARKS AND RECREATION CANNOT BEGIN TO COVER ITS ENTIRE DEPARTMENT IN 90 MINUTES. IT HAS SO MANY PUBLIC OUTREACH TYPE PROGRAMS. AND SO YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD ABOUT SORRY GOLF AND. OH, CAN I TALK TO THE ZOO? AND NOW WE ARE HEARING PART TWO, WHICH COVERS CEMETERIES AND RECREATION PROGRAMS. AND WE'LL JUST ASK YOU TO GO AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN WITHOUT BEING UNINTELLIGIBLE. AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL ASK ALL OF US TO BE CAREFUL WITH OUR PAUSES FOR PRAISE. WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE YOU PRAISE IN ANOTHER AT ANOTHER TIME, I SUPPOSE. BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECORD. ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL TAKE THAT PRAISE ANY TIME. AND IF IT'S ON A DIFFERENT DAY, THAT'S PERFECTLY GREAT. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU ALL SO, SO MUCH FOR HAVING US. AS MAYOR MENTIONED, WE WERE HERE IN OCTOBER WITH TIM AND DAVID FOR THE FIRST HALF OF OUR, OF OUR DIVISION OR OF OUR DEPARTMENT. EXCUSE ME. AND, AND TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKS AND CEMETERIES AS WELL AS RECREATION. WE'RE VERY EXCITED. 
          THIS IS A LARGE PORTION OF OUR, OF OUR DEPARTMENT AND PROBABLY TAKES UP THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME. PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY IS DEDICATED TOWARDS PARKS MORE THAN ANY OTHER DIVISION WITHIN PARKS AND RECREATION. AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE WHY OR YOU KNOW WHY FROM SITTING ON COUNCIL AND, AND BEING SO INVOLVED WITH WHAT WE DO IN THAT. SO TO START WITH WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WHAT IS PARKS AND REC? IDAHO FALLS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO BUILDING A STRONG COMMUNITY THROUGH THE PROVISION OF SAFE AND EXCEPTIONAL PARKS, FACILITIES AND RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AS WELL AS VISITORS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE'VE GONE OVER THIS BEFORE, BUT OUR OUR DEPARTMENT MISSION IS VERY SIMPLE. WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG FOLKS THAT WORK FOR US THAT COME ON FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS. WE LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO KNOW AND RECOGNIZE THAT THAT MISSION AND BE ABLE TO STATE THAT MISSION OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IF ASKED. AND IT'S TO ENRICH COMMUNITY. AND AGAIN, WE I SAY THIS EVERY TIME, BUT IT'S NOT TO ENRICH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S NOT TO ENRICH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S TO ENRICH COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT IS IN SO MANY DIFFERENT FORMS THROUGHOUT IDAHO FALLS, WHETHER THAT'S JUST A FEW FOLKS THAT GET TOGETHER EVERY MORNING AND WALK AND WALK THEIR DOGS AND GET EXERCISE, WHETHER THAT'S A FOOTBALL TEAM THAT YOU BELONG TO, WHETHER THAT'S JUST YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THOSE ARE ALL DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WITHIN YOUR LIFESTYLE OR WITHIN YOUR LIFE. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENRICH THAT NO MATTER WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR OUR FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE, OUR VISION IS TO BE LEADERS OF PROVIDING HEALTHY, FUN EXPERIENCES. THIS KIND OF IS A LITTLE BIT OF A LIGHT SIDE OF WHAT WE DO. WE DO APPRECIATE AND STRIVE TO HAVE COMFORTABLE, FUN, SAFE EXPERIENCES FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT THAT COME THROUGH AND VISIT OUR GREEN SPACE AS WELL AS OUR DIFFERENT FACILITIES AND, AND PARTICIPATING IN OUR PROGRAMS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ALWAYS HEALTHY, IT'S ALWAYS SAFE, AND IT'S ALWAYS FUN FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT ARE 
          [00:50:03]
PARTICIPATING REALLY QUICK. I WANT TO JUST GO OVER WHAT ALL IS ENCOMPASSED IN PARKS AND RECREATION. WE HAVE 48 PARKS, THREE PGA GOLF COURSES AND A SHORT COURSE, 27 PLAYGROUNDS, 33 333 PUBLIC RESTROOMS, MORE THAN 24 MILES OF PATHWAY, 20 PAVILIONS AND SHELTERS, 25 BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS, 27 SOCCER AND FOOTBALL FIELDS, 16 TENNIS COURTS, EIGHT OF WHICH ARE SHARED WITH DISTRICT 91. WE HAVE SIX PICKLEBALL COURTS, OUTDOOR PICKLEBALL COURTS. WE HAVE SEVEN INDOOR. THAT'S TWO THAT ARE PAINTED ON OUR REC FLOOR OR OUR OUR REC CENTER GYM FLOOR THAT WAS PUT IN LAST YEAR, AS WELL AS WE HAVE OUR FIVE SEASONAL ONES AT THE ICE RINK THAT WE PURCHASED LAST YEAR. THAT TURNED OUT TO BE A GREAT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS THAT PLAY PICKLEBALL IN OUR COMMUNITY, HELPS THEM GET OUT OF THE SUN, HELPS THEM GET OUT OF THE WIND, BUT ALSO STILL PLAY IN A PLACE THAT IS OPEN AIR AND VERY FUN TO PLAY IN. WE ALSO HAVE ONE PRCA RODEO, TWO CEMETERIES DISC GOLF COURSE, THE WEST EAST AQUATIC CENTER, A REINHARDT SPLASH PAD, ICE RINK, AND TWO ICE PONDS THAT WE BUILD THROUGHOUT THE WINTER MONTHS. 
          THOSE ARE, WEATHER PERMITTING, OBVIOUSLY. RECREATION CENTER, IDAHO FALLS ZOO AT THOMAS PARK, SANDY DOWNS, IDAHO FALLS RACEWAY AT NOYES PARK AT NORTH OR WEST OF TOWN. EXCUSE ME, WE'VE GOT MORE THAN 15 MILES OF OHV RIDING TRAILS THAT ARE OPEN 24 OR EXCUSE ME, SUNUP TO SUNDOWN, 365 DAYS A YEAR. SO FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKES AND RIDE THEIR, THEIR FOUR WHEELERS AND MOTORCYCLES OUT ON THE DESERT, TWO FISHING PONDS AT RYDER PARK, ONE MOUNTAIN BIKE PARK AND ONE BIKE SKILLS PARK. LOTS GOING ON. SO FOR OUR UPCOMING AND OUR ANNUAL EVENTS THAT WE HAVE, I WANTED TO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE SURE TO INVITE YOU GUYS TO SOME DIFFERENT EVENTS. WE'VE GOT OUR COMMUNITY CLEANUP DAY AT THE ZOO SATURDAY, APRIL 19TH. THIS WILL. 
          I'LL MAKE SURE TO GET THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND INVITE THAT CAN GO OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED, I GUESS, OR INVITED TO THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR AND YOUR COMMUNITIES ARE AWARE OF THIS AS WELL. IT'S A GREAT DAY TO, IN ONE DAY, REALLY CLEAN UP THAT THAT ZOO, WHICH THIS YEAR IS A BIG, BIG YEAR FOR US, AS YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR FOCUS REPORT THAT WE HAVE OUR AZA ACCREDITATION THIS YEAR. SO WE'VE GOT A LOT OF EYES ON US AND WE'LL HAVE EXTRA SCRUTINY ON ON THE CLEANLINESS AND THE AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY THIS YEAR. OPENING DAY AT THE ZOO WILL BE APRIL 20TH, THURSDAY, APRIL 24TH. TIM REINKE HAS MADE THE FINAL THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT THAT HE IS RETIRING. HE STARTED AS THE FULL TIME. PRO AT 1983. I BELIEVE HE HAS BEEN HERE A LONG, LONG TIME AND HE DESERVES HIS RETIREMENT AND HE WAS VERY HESITANT. BUT I THINK NOW THAT HE'S BEEN DOING IT AND TALKING ABOUT IT, HE'S ACTUALLY GETTING REALLY EXCITED. I KIND OF HAVE TO TELL HIM TO WIPE THAT SMILE OFF HIS FACE ANYTIME HE'S IN MY OFFICE, BECAUSE HE'S JUST HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S SO EXCITED TO GET OUT AND HAVE SOME FREEDOM. WE'RE EXCITED FOR HIM. CLIVE LEWIS RETIREMENT PARTY. HE'S BEEN WITH US A VERY, VERY LONG TIME AS WELL. FRIDAY, MAY 30TH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW AT THE REC CENTER AT 4 P.M. WE HAVEN'T REALLY CHECKED SCHEDULES ON SOME OF THESE, AND SO SOME OF THESE COULD POTENTIALLY CHANGE REALLY AS I'M, AS I'M KIND OF READING FACES AROUND THE ROOM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN HERE. RIGHT. 
          AND SO IF WE NEED TO MAKE THESE SOME SMALL ADJUSTMENTS, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. THESE HAVE NOT GONE OUT YET PUBLICLY. THIS IS AS PUBLIC AS IT'S BEEN SO FAR ON THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS. AND OF COURSE, OUR 114TH WARBONNET ROUNDUP, JULY 31ST THROUGH THE SECOND. WE'D LOVE FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU TO BE THERE. WE TRY TO RECOGNIZE OUR COUNCIL AND OUR AMAZING THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAKE IN OUR COMMUNITY EVERY YEAR WITH THAT, AND GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RIDE AROUND IN A IN A WAGON OR AN OLD VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING THROUGH THE ARENA JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS SOME, SOME RECOGNITION. SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO. I DID PUT ON HERE THE NOMINATED FOR PRCA WILDERNESS BEST MEDIUM RODEO IN IDAHO. THAT WAS A POST FROM FACEBOOK BEFORE WE ACTUALLY WON. SO WE DID GET THE BEST MEDIUM SIZED RODEO IN IDAHO HONORED BY OUR OUR CIRCUIT THAT WE BELONG TO. SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO TOUCH REALLY QUICKLY ON PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL HAD FOR OUR DEPARTMENT IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS. FIRST ONE IS COMMUNITY CENTER WITH AN EMPHASIS ON AMENITIES THAT BUILD COMMUNITY, NOT JUST FITNESS. 
          SEVERAL QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE CENTER AND RECREATION AS A WHOLE WERE INCLUDED IN THE CITYWIDE SURVEY, SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL GET US SOME SOME GOOD INFORMATION THAT WE CAN BRING BACK AND POTENTIALLY USE FOR THIS. ALSO, A PARK IMPACT FEES WERE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED TO FUND THE FEASIBILITY STUDY. LUCKILY, I DID HAVE SOME FUNDS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED THAT COULD BE USED 
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FOR THAT. SINCE WE ARE ON HOLD RIGHT NOW ON UTILIZING THOSE IMPACT FEES, WE'RE STARTING TO IDENTIFY CONSULTANTS FOR OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY, AND WE HAVE SOME MOVEMENT ON THAT. AND THEN SMALL, SMALLER INTERNAL VISIONING COMMITTEE HAS BEEN MEETING TO LOOK AT A FEW THINGS WE WANTED TO LOOK AT. WE WANTED TO LEARN FROM PRIOR ATTEMPTS. WE BROUGHT IN A COUPLE OF PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAD BEEN AROUND DURING THE LAST ATTEMPT TO BUILD A RECREATION CENTER, AND IT WAS DEFINITELY A TOUGH LOSS FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. AT THAT POINT, YOU COULD STILL SEE IT WAS A VERY FRESH WOUND ON THESE PRIOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. FROM THE AMOUNT OF TIME, THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT, AND I THINK THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY HAD HEARD THAT IT WOULD MAYBE BE HAPPENING TO ONLY THEN HAVE 19% YES VOTE. IT WAS A IT WAS VERY IT WAS VERY HARD FOR THEM, I THINK. AND YOU COULD SEE THOSE THOSE WOUNDS WERE STILL VERY FRESH. ALSO TO IDENTIFY SOME POSSIBLE FUNDING STRATEGIES. NUMBER TWO, RIGHT SIZING OUR USER FEES AND SCRUTINIZE THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH NON-CITY USERS. THE RECREATION DIVISION HAS IMPLEMENTED A PRICING CALCULATION. I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THAT TODAY FOR OUR NONRESIDENTS OR TO IDENTIFY THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR RESIDENTS. THIS HELPS TO BETTER ENSURE THAT NONRESIDENTS ARE PAYING THEIR PORTION AND THEIR FAIR PORTION TO THE ADMISSIONS PROGRAM FEES AND THE RENTALS OF OUR FACILITIES AND GROUNDS. WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR USER GROUPS AND OUTLYING SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO SCRUTINIZE THEIR IMPACT, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN A VERY LARGE WELL, I GUESS, A SUPPORT FROM THEM, WHETHER THEY THEY WANTED TO SEE FEES GO UP. THEY'RE VERY EVERYONE THAT WE'VE MET WITH, EVERYONE THAT WE'VE TALKED TO HAS BEEN VERY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE HAD A PRETTY GOOD FOR A LONG TIME AND HAVE NOT NECESSARILY HAD TO PAY THEIR PORTION FROM A NON RESIDENT PAYING, COMING AND PARTICIPATING IN A CITY SPONSORED OR A CITY SUBSIDIZED FACILITY. AND THE LAST THING IS THE ZOO AND GOLF. THOSE SPECIFICALLY WERE STRIVING TO IMPROVE METHODS OF COMMUNICATION WITH OUR RESIDENTS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL SEE AND I AND I DID PUT A NOTE DOWN HERE THAT THE ZOO FEES NEED UPDATING BEFORE WE OPEN. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL TO UPDATE A LITTLE BIT AND KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THIS. I AS YOU KNOW, WE TURN IN OUR OUR FEE SCHEDULE WITH OUR BUDGET EVERY YEAR. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GUESSTIMATE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE. RIGHT. AND SO TYPICALLY ALMOST EVERY YEAR PARKS AND RECREATION HAS SOME KIND OF NON BUDGET TIME FEES THAT EITHER WERE NEED TO BE ADJUSTED. MAYBE SOME ISSUES HAPPENED. BUT TYPICALLY WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS TAKE THE END OF THE SEASON, REALLY SCRUTINIZE THE SEASON, SEE HOW THAT WENT AT GOLF, AT THE ZOO IN OUR PROGRAMS, AND REALLY MAKE THAT DECISION A LITTLE BIT BETTER BASED OFF OF DATA RATHER THAN WHAT WE THINK WE MIGHT MOVE. MOVE THEM, WHETHER THAT'S UP OR DOWN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT FOR THE ZOO, AND A LOT OF PLACES GOLF, ZOO AND REC, A LOT OF THE TIMES WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE A RESIDENT AND A NONRESIDENT FEE, BUT WE ADVERTISE THE NONRESIDENT FEE. 
          SO A LOT OF TIMES IF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THEY CAN GET A BENEFIT, THEY DON'T EVEN ASK FOR THAT, THAT DECREASE OR THAT DISCOUNT FOR BEING A CITY RESIDENT. WE'RE GOING TO GET REALLY WE'RE GOING TO TRY REALLY HARD THIS YEAR TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT OUT THERE, THAT YOU DO GET A BENEFIT. YOU DO HAVE BENEFITS FROM BEING A CITY RESIDENT AND HELPING CONTRIBUTE TO THE RECREATION DIVISION. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY COMING UP WITH A NEW RECREATION RESIDENT CARD THAT PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO THE REC CENTER AND VALIDATE THEIR ADDRESS. THEY WILL GET A LITTLE CARD THAT NOW THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE TO EACH OF OUR FACILITIES WITHOUT QUESTION, AND BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE A RESIDENT. OKAY. SO THAT IS SOMETHING OF THE PAST. IT KIND OF WENT AWAY BECAUSE OF PRINTING COSTS AND THAT. AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT DOING THIS INTERNALLY. BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE UP WE HAVE TO BRING UP OUR GIS PROGRAM, ASK WHERE THEY'RE FROM, PUT IN THEIR ADDRESS. THEY'LL VERIFY THAT THE ADDRESS THEY GAVE US BELONGS TO THEM. THEN KIND OF CAN DETERMINE THAT. SO MOST PEOPLE DON'T EVEN GO THROUGH THE TROUBLE OF VERIFYING THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE SOME OF THAT OUT OF IT, OUT OF THE WORK OUT OF THAT THIS YEAR. 
          AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO GO PRE VERIFY THAT THEY ARE A RESIDENT AT THE REC CENTER, GET A CARD AND THEN TAKE THAT TO THE ZOO AND SHOW THAT. AND YOU HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THAT THOUGH, BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ESSENTIALLY CHARGING EVERYBODY THE NONRESIDENT FEE. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENT FEE DIDN'T GO UP MUCH FROM THAT. SO WE KEPT OUR RESIDENT FEE. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO KEEP OUR RESIDENT FEE AT THE ZOO, THE SAME AS THE NON RESIDENT FEE WAS LAST YEAR, AND RAISING OUR NON NON RESIDENT FEE $3. SO IT'S A IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE JUMP FOR US. 
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BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE'VE SEEN THE SUBSIDY OF THE ZOO GOING CLIMBING UP SLIGHTLY OVER THE YEARS, WE IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT WE HAVE TO REALLY COMBAT SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT SUBSIDY AND THAT HELP RECOVER SOME OF THOSE COSTS. AND SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS THAT IF I COULD PUBLISH A, A PUBLIC POTENTIAL PUBLIC HEARING IN APRIL, IF WE COULD ADVERTISE THAT THROUGH THE END OF MARCH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DATES PICKED OUT, AND THEN IF MAYBE WE COULD DO A RUN A PUBLIC HEARING IN APRIL, I WOULD LOVE TO GET SOME SUPPORT TO UP THOSE CHARGES BEFORE WE OPEN AT THE END OF APRIL SO THAT WE CAN WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE FEES THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT BASED OFF OF DATA RATHER THAN WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR DURING OUR FEE TIME. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT. IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF LIKE I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE CARD AND GETTING IT PRE-DONE, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO LEAVE TIME TO DO THAT. SO IF PEOPLE CAN SHOW A DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH AN ALCOHOL, LIKE, WHAT DO YOU THINK IN THE MEANTIME FOR THAT MONTH OR TWO WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE IN THE PROCESS? IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO THAT. CHRIS. YEAH. SO ME AND DAVE HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS WITH TALKING WITH THE SUPPLIER. 
          WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE CARDS AND BE GOING READY TO OFFER THAT BEFORE OPENING. AND THAT'S HOW THE VALIDATION WOULD OCCUR. ACTUALLY AT THE WINDOW WITH THE CARD IS THEY HAND THE CARD IN THE DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR US TO SAY, YEP, THIS IS THE HOUSEHOLD, SO THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF IT. THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE REC CENTER OR SAY, NO. THOSE THOUGHTS COME TO THE REC CENTER TO INITIALLY GET THE DISCOUNT CARD, BUT WE ARE CONFIDENT WE CAN GET THAT GOING BEFORE OPENING. SO YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION FROM THE CARD TO HAVING SOMETHING AT THE WINDOW TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? AND IS THAT AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT. NO, NO. SO YOU WILL. SO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS TRY TO ENCOURAGE COMMUNICATION, TO MAKE SURE FOLKS KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO GET THIS DONE BEFORE THEY COME TO THE WINDOW. 
          WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE UPSET TO COME TO THE WINDOW AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THE HARD PART IS GOING TO BE WE HAVE TO SET THIS UP FOR A REALLY A LINE THAT'S OUT THE OUT THE DOOR. TYPICALLY, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WE DO NOT HAVE TIME TO VERIFY THIS AND ALL THAT. SO WHERE WE'RE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TROUBLE IS PEOPLE COME IN WHEN THERE'S NOT A LINE AND SAY, CAN I VERIFY? AND THEY SAY, NO, YOU GOT TO GO TO THE REC CENTER. BUT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO PUSH THAT TO YOU NEED TO GO TO THE REC CENTER FIRST. GET YOUR VALIDATION CARD. IT WILL WORK AT ACROSS THE BOARD AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. THERE'S AND THERE'S NO WAY TO LIKE ONLINE REGISTER FOR THIS BECAUSE OF THE PROOF YOU HAVE TO SHOW OR SOMETHING. WE'VE LOOKED DEFINITELY NOT SHORT TERM. IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE A MUCH LONGER TERM ROLLOUT IF WE IF WE WENT TO SOMETHING ONLINE. THAT WAS ORIGINALLY WHAT OUR GOAL WAS, WAS YOU COULD GO ON AND BUY AN ONLINE TICKET AND THAT WAS THE DISCOUNTED TICKET. WHAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IS ANY WAY CURRENTLY TO VERIFY ANYBODY COULD GO IN AND SAY, I LIVE IN ARKANSAS AND IT WOULD STILL GIVE THEM THE RESIDENT RATE. SO WE'RE WORKING ON HOW TO GET THAT ROLLED OUT. AND HOW CLOSE ARE WE? HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO MAKING THE OUT OF CITY RESIDENT FEE EQUAL WITH WHAT OUR ACTUAL COSTS ARE? WE'RE STILL PRETTY FAR AWAY. THAT $3 INCREASE IS THAT IT'S A LITTLE CLOSER. OBVIOUSLY WE WILL. WE HAVE ABOUT 60. JUST SHY, JUST SHY OF 100,000 VISITORS THAT COME THROUGH THAT ARE NONRESIDENTS. AS OF AS OF NOW. THIS IS KIND OF TOUGH BECAUSE WE'VE CHARGED EVERYBODY THAT NONRESIDENT RATE, BUT WE'VE ALSO TRACKED WHERE WHAT ZIP CODES PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM. BUT THE NEW FEES, THE NEW FEES YOU'RE SUGGESTING, THOUGH, IT'S STILL LESS THAN THE ACTUAL COST. YES. 
          OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. YES. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. THE LAST ONE IS PURSUE IMPLEMENTATION OF EXISTING PLANS FOR SEVERAL FACILITIES. WE HAVE BUDGETED AND CURRENTLY, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WIDENING AND REALIGNING NORTH OR NORTH PARK ROAD INTO THOMAS PARK. WE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO CLOSE SOFTBALL DRIVE AND BUILD OUR NEW ENTRANCE INTO THE ZOO. 
          EVENTUALLY WE HAD BUDGETED SOME IMPACT FEES TO INSTALL LIGHTING AROUND HERITAGE PARK THAT IS ON HOLD. CURRENTLY, GRANTS WERE WRITTEN AND APPROVED TO BUILD PATHWAYS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THOMAS PARK, PER THE COC PLAN, AS WELL AS THOMAS PARK MASTER PLAN, AND WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH USER GROUPS TO BUILD A RESTROOM AT RYDER PARK AND CURRENTLY BUILDING A RESTROOM AT HERITAGE PARK FOR THE MASTER PLAN AS WELL. SO THE GRANT WAS APPROVED. AND WHAT'S THE AMOUNT? THAT'S AWESOME. I BELIEVE IT'S A $500,000 GRANT. IT'S THE ONE OF THE TAP GRANTS AND IT WILL CONNECT. IT WILL LOOP ESSENTIALLY AROUND ALL OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE PATH, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ABOUT FEIST FIELD AND KIND OF AROUND TOWARDS THE SKATE PARK AND THEN BACK TO THE FRONT. SO IT IS DEFINITELY THE EASTERN PORTION, EASTERN HALF OF THOMAS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME WORK TO DO ON HOW WE KIND OF INCORPORATE INTO THE ZOO AND THE. AND FUNLAND IS OPEN. WE ARE CURRENTLY RENOVATING THE LOG BARN AND WE HAVE MORE TO DO AROUND THE FACILITIES. WE ARE 
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WORKING TO GET BACK INTO LWCF COMPLIANCE, WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON THAT, AND VERY GRATEFUL TO CATHERINE SMITH FOR THE WORK SHE'S BEEN ABLE TO HELP ME WITH THAT, AND THEN WORK WITH D91 TO GET REIMBURSED FOR LWCF. WE'RE ALSO COLLABORATING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO DESIGN AND PLAN THE NEW SECTIONS OF THE CANAL TRAIL. THE NEXT SECTIONS. SO TODAY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COVERING IS OUR REC OR OUR PARK DIVISION, AS WELL AS OUR RECREATION DIVISION. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PASS IT OVER TO JOSH STEVENS. IF YOU HAVE NOT MET JOSH STEVENS YET, HE IS OUR PARK SUPERINTENDENT. TOOK OVER FOR RONNIE CAMPBELL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANKS, JOSH. THANK YOU. THANKS EVERYONE FOR HAVING US. YOU JUST KIND OF GO OVER OUR ORG CHART HERE. THIS IS OUR FULL TIME ORG CHART. WE'VE GOT THREE ADMINISTRATION 26 IN PARKS MAINTENANCE TWO IRRIGATION MAINTENANCE, TWO IN CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, FIVE IN HORTICULTURE AND FORESTRY AND FOUR IN CEMETERIES. OUR DIVISION IS COMPARTMENTALIZED INTO NINE SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH IS ADMINISTRATION, SANDY DOWNS, PARKS, MAINTENANCE, WEED CONTROL, NOISE, PARK, HORTICULTURE, ACTIVITY CENTER, WARBONNET AND CEMETERIES. WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OVER THE FULL TIME, KIND OF WANT TO GO OVER THE SEASONAL PART TIME EMPLOYEES. 
          THIS IS WHAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST FEW YEARS, ROUGHLY THE ONLY ONE I KIND OF WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS PARKS MAINTENANCE. WE REALLY COULD USE CLOSER TO 60 SEASONAL EMPLOYEES WOULD BE A PERFECT WORLD. BUT YOU KNOW THE HIRING SITUATION RIGHT NOW, IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH SOMETIMES, BUT WE'RE GETTING BY. CERTIFICATIONS AND LICENSES. WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPLOYEES THAT ARE HIGHLY SKILLED AND NEED TO BE CERTIFIED IN CERTAIN AREAS. SO WE'VE GOT ONE CERTIFIED PARK AND RECREATION PROFESSIONAL, ONE LICENSED BLACK BLACK. EXCUSE ME. BACKFLOW ASSEMBLY TESTER. AND THAT WILL BE TWO AS OF APRIL. AS MANY OF YOU MIGHT KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF OUR PRESSURE VACUUM BREAKERS THROUGHOUT OUR FACILITIES THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE. SO WE'RE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO GET THOSE RECTIFIED. ONE LICENSED BUILDING CONTRACTOR AND ONE CERTIFIED CONTRACTOR, THREE CERTIFIED ARBORIST, TWO CERTIFIED PLAYGROUND SAFETY INSPECTORS, SIX CERTIFIED POOL OPERATORS, NINE LICENSED PROFESSIONAL PESTICIDE APPLICATORS, AND 20 CDL OPERATORS. ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT THERE IS, IS THAT YOU MIGHT KIND OF QUESTION WHY WE HAVE SIX CERTIFIED POOL OPERATORS IN ORDER TO RUN A SPLASH PAD, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NO STANDING WATER, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A POOL CERTIFIED POOL OPERATORS TO KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THE CHEMICALS AND, AND ALL OF THAT SO THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO CHECK AND VERIFY THAT WE HAVE CLEAN, STERILE WATER. QUESTION CDLS HAVE GOTTEN QUITE A BIT MORE EXPENSIVE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND I'M WONDERING, DO WE PAY FOR THOSE, OR DO WE REQUIRE PEOPLE TO WALK IN THE DOOR WITH THEM, OR DO WE SPLIT THE COST SOMEHOW? OR HOW DO WE TYPICALLY WE TYPICALLY HAVE THEM PAY FOR IT AND THEN THEY GET REIMBURSED AFTER THEY RECEIVE IT. BUT WE'VE WE'VE RECENTLY STARTED AN IN HOUSE PROGRAM WHERE THOSE COSTS HAVE HAVE SHOT UP. WE'RE GOING TO START TRAINING IN-HOUSE. WE HAVE GUYS THAT ALREADY HAVE THEIR CLASSES THAT CAN CAN INSTRUCT CLASSES SO WE CAN GET IT DONE A LOT CHEAPER. THANK YOU. SOME OF WHAT WE DO. SO IF YOU SEE THIS SLIDE I LIKE THIS SLIDE BECAUSE RIGHT HERE IT SHOWS ALL OF THE CITY ASSETS, EVERY DEPARTMENT AND WHAT PROPERTY THEY OWN THROUGHOUT THE CITY. PARKS IS GREEN. AND HERE'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS SLIDE IS YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT PARKS AND PARKS MAINTENANCE MAINTAINS. IT'S QUITE A BIT. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SQUARE SOMETHINGS THAT IS. 
          I WANT SQUARE CENTIMETERS. I'LL TAKE YOUR YARD. THERE'S A CUBIC MILE ONE. 700 1700 ACRES MONITORED AND MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. FIVE OVER 500 IS TURFGRASS ALONE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOU SEE, YOU SEE THAT 1700 ACRE NUMBER. AND THAT CAN BE. THAT'S RIGHT. OF WAYS. 
          STORM PONDS, SNOW DUMPS. PARKING LOTS. SO NEARLY A SQUARE MILE OF GRASS, YOU KNOW. AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE GOLF COURSES. SO WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER 420 ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL. ON THAT GOLF. 
          WE MAINTAIN 57 SHELTERS, BUILDINGS AND SHOPS, OVER 100 FLEET VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT 
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UTILIZED FOR OPERATIONS, 33 PUBLIC RESTROOMS, CLEAN DAILY, MULTIPLE TIMES, SOME 13 YEAR ROUND. ROUGHLY 17 000 FLOWERS PLANTED ANNUAL. 25 000 TREES TO BE PRUNED, MAINTAINED, AND CARED FOR. AND THAT THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, SPRAY TREATMENTS, TRIMMING INJECTIONS. AND THOSE ARE JUST THE TREES ON OUR PROPERTY. THAT'S THE ONLY PARKS PROPERTIES. YEAH. THAT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE GOLF COURSES. NO, NO. OKAY. OR STREET TREES I KNOW THAT THE GOLF COURSE IS INVENTORIED THERE. TREES. RIGHT. A FEW YEARS AGO THEY HAD A GUY GO, HAVE YOU GUYS DONE THAT OR NOT? WE'VE STARTED THAT PROGRAM AND WE WE'RE PUTTING OUT THE JOB TODAY ACTUALLY, FOR THE INTERN THAT COMES IN AND MARKS OUR TREES. AND YEAH, THEY GO AROUND WITH THE LITTLE SATELLITE THING AND THEN THEY IDENTIFY SPECIES AND. YEAH. JOSH, HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT PLANTING ANNUALS OR PERENNIALS SO THAT WE CAN CUT DOWN ON THE 17,000 THAT ARE PLANTED ANNUALLY IN TERMS OF FLOWERS? AND WE DO THAT IN SOME AREAS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THAT IT WOULD BE A LOT LESS MAINTENANCE IN THE MAN HOURS ON THAT. THANK YOU. YEP. 
          CANAL TRAILS CONNECTING OUR COMMUNITY. SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE 4.6 MILES OF CANAL PATHWAYS CONSTRUCTED STARTING IN 20 2021. AS PER OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE IDAHO CANAL COMPANY, FUNDED WITH TAP GRANTS AND IMPACT FEES. SO WE HAVE 2.3 MILES AND ONE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTED IN 2021 2023. WE HAD 0.22 MILES SOUTH OF SUNNYSIDE. CANAL PATHWAY LAST YEAR, OR 2.5 MILES, 2.05 MILES AND TWO BRIDGES CONSTRUCTED. SO WITH THAT, IF YOU THINK OF THAT 4.6 MILES OF CANALS, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REALISTIC NUMBER OF WHAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THERE, WHICH IS 2022 .39 CANAL MILES PER ONE SIDE. SO THAT'S 44 MILES OF LINEAR CANAL BANK THAT WE MAINTAIN. WOW. IS THERE A CONTRACT EVER NEGOTIABLE? I SURE HOPE SO. I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS SET FOR A TIME FRAME, OR IF IT WAS JUST A FLAT DEAL IN PERPETUITY. EVERY AGREEMENT IS NEGOTIABLE, AND BUT THE MASTER AGREEMENT IS KIND OF A THERE'S NO TERM ON IT THAT EXPIRES. SO I BUT IT MAY BE AMENDED BETWEEN THE PARTIES WHEN THEY WHEN IT WANTS TO BE, WHEN THE PARTIES WANT TO VISIT ABOUT IT. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED. THANK YOU. THANKS, MIKE. LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR HARD ASSETS THERE. ROSE HILL. WE'RE OPERATING AND MAINTAINING 36 ACRES. BUILDING MEMORIAL IS 54 ACRES. TOTAL BUILDINGS EIGHT EQUIPMENT FLEET OF 24. SOME OF THE STRUGGLES WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST AS WE PREP FOR MEMORIAL DAY, WE GET GOING ON THAT AS SOON AS THE SNOW GOES. ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE IN FIELDING IS WE DON'T GET IRRIGATION WATER UNTIL MID-MAY. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO MEMORIAL DAY. THAT'S TOUGH ON CREWS TO GET THINGS LOOKING AS THEY SHOULD. ANOTHER IS STAFFING. MOST OF OUR SEASONAL STAFF WE GET THERE USUALLY DON'T GET OUT OF SCHOOL UNTIL AROUND MEMORIAL DAY, SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF HELP LEADING UP TO MEMORIAL DAY. BOTH CEMETERIES ARE IRRIGATED BY HAND WITH SET SPRINKLERS FOR 30 HOURS PER WEEK PER CEMETERY, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK TO IN THE FUTURE TO GET THAT ON AUTOMATED SYSTEMS, BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF MANPOWER AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE OPTION TO NOT SPRAY ROADS AND PEOPLE JOGGING AND BIKING THROUGH THERE. IT'S JUST KIND OF TOUGH. SO IN THE FUTURE WE'D REALLY LIKE TO GET THOSE AUTOMATED. HAVE YOU DONE A COST BREAKDOWN AT THIS POINT SO THAT WE COULD KNOW WHAT THE COST WAS JUST MOVING FORWARD? WE HAVE THAT WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE. I KNOW WE DID A COST ANALYSIS AND I CAN SEND THAT. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT LIAISON TO LOOK AT. OKAY. PERFECT. IT IS AT LEAST ROSE HILL IS ON OUR FIVE 
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YEAR CAPITAL PLAN. SO WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE A PLAN. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT THE COST OF THAT. IT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COST. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IT'S PROBABLY GOT THE OLDER, MORE BROKEN IRRIGATION SYSTEMS OF THE TWO. BUT WHERE WE GET WATER SO MUCH SOONER AT ROSE HILL, WE STRUGGLE WITH FIELDING, AS YOU GUYS ARE ALL. AND ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO INCLUDE THIS ON THIS PRESENTATION IS WE KNOW WE'VE BEEN I'M SURE EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE BEEN CONTACTED OR SAW THE STORIES IN THE PAPER LAST YEAR OF THE VOLES OF THE GRASS. AND SO THERE IS A REASON WHY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST THAT WE'RE NEGLECTING, BUT IT IS. YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ACTUALLY A PICTURE FROM OUR OUR CEMETERY. WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE FARM FIELDS THAT ARE AROUND THERE THAT THEY DO WORK THEIR WAY, THEIR WAY IN. AND WHERE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE LOSING SNOW. YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE CAN DEFINITELY START TO PREP. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WATER. WE DON'T HAVE REALLY ANY MAINTENANCE ABILITY UNTIL AS WE GET UNTIL DARN NEAR CLOSE TO MEMORIAL DAY. SO WE DO AN ALL HANDS ON DECK OUT AT FIELDING CEMETERY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT AS CLEAN AND AS PREPPED AS WE CAN FOR MEMORIAL DAY. BUT AS AS WE KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE LOVED ONES THERE, YOU'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO SCRUTINIZE AND SEE THAT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF US DO. AND SO IT'S SOMETHING WE HEAR ABOUT EVERY MEMORIAL DAY, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF HURDLES THAT THAT CAUSE, CAUSE THAT ISSUE EARLY IN THE SPRING WITH WATER FLOOD THEIR HOMES AND KEEP THEM OUT. IS THERE A LINK BETWEEN THOSE TWO CONVERSATIONS? I GUESS THE LATE NATURE OF THE WATER AND THE BOWLS BEING THERE? NO, NOT REALLY. IT'S JUST THE LIVING SITUATIONS THEY HAVE. THEY JUST HAVE THE PERFECT ENVIRONMENT TO THRIVE. SO, SO VOLES LOVE GRASS AND THEY LOVE FRESHLY TURNED DIRT. THEY LOVE SOFT DIRT. PERFECT THINGS TO HEAR, RIGHT? WE'RE CONSTANTLY TURNING DIRT OVER, PACKING IT, CAUSING THOSE SO IT JUST GIVES THE PERFECT BURROW AREAS AND THEY CAN GET DOWN UNDERNEATH HEADSTONES. THEY CAN GET DOWN IN THAT FRESH, FRESHLY TURNED SOIL AND, AND THEY GET UNDER THAT SNOW. AND JUST CAUSE ALL THAT, ALL THAT ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE WINTER. AND IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO GET IT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY GRASS AGAIN. SO ANOTHER STRUGGLE WE HAD OUT OF FIELDING IS STAFF NOTICED THAT THE NICHE WALL WAS LEANING FORWARD. WELL, UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION, THE MANUFACTURER OF THAT DIDN'T POUR THE RIGHT FOOTING AND THE TREES ON THE SIDES JUST PUSHED IT ABOUT FOUR INCHES TO THE FORWARD. SO INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, WE THREW AROUND IDEAS TO BUY NEW, BUT CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE BOUGHT THESE SPOTS FOR THEIR LOVED ONES. IT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COSTS GETTING THE ENGRAVINGS DONE. SO WE WE'RE ABOUT INTO THAT PROJECT, $50,000 THAT WE WEREN'T PLANNING ON SPENDING. SO IT WAS OFF SQUARE WHEN THEY TRIED TO PUT THE GRANITE SLABS BACK. NOTHING FIT, RIGHT. SO THEY HAD TO DO A BUNCH OF CUTTING. AND SO WE WERE PLANNING ON PAYING AROUND 36,000, BUT WITH CHANGE ORDERS AND JUST THE WHOLE PROJECT KIND OF BEEN A NIGHTMARE. SO IS THERE ANY LIABILITY FOR WHOEVER DID WE BUILD IT OR DID WE CONTRACT THAT? AND DOES THE CONTRACTOR HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO SORT OF WE LOOKED INTO IT AND THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO GOOD PLANS ON IT. IT THERE WAS ONE DRAWING THAT I HAD AND IT WAS DRAWN WITH A CRAYON. IT LOOKED LIKE I MEAN, IT WAS FANCY, BUT IT IT'S ALL WE REALLY HAD WHEN WE WENT BACK IN OUR RECORDS. OKAY. SO UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP, THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN. NO. PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT YOU WANT. 
          WE KNOW WHICH FOOTINGS WE NEED FOR THOSE NOW. SO VERY GOOD. ONE OF ONE OF THE STRUGGLES THAT WE HAD WITH THIS IS THAT WHEN WE PUT OUT THE BIDS, THE ORIGINAL BUILDERS CAME IN WITH ONE OF THE LOW BIDS. AND SO WE REALLY STRUGGLED TO NOT WANT TO GIVE THAT. I MEAN, THE NEW THE NEW FOUNDATION THAT WERE PUT IN ARE PUT IN AT EIGHT FOOT OR THE EIGHT FOOT FOUNDATION, THE ORIGINAL, THEY PUT DOWN A FOUR INCH SLAB AND THAT WAS WHAT THEY BUILT THIS ENTIRE THING ON. AND SO IT WAS JUST INADEQUATE, INADEQUATELY BUILT. AND ACCORDING TO THE BUILDER, THIS WAS HIS FIRST NICHE WALL THAT HE HAD EVER BUILT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHERE HE COULD COME IN AND FIX IT AND THIS AND THAT. BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT SOMEBODY IN THAT HAD A LOT MORE EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH SHORING THOSE TYPE OF THINGS UP, MAKING SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. DID YOU MOVE THE TREE? TREE GUM OKAY. YEAH. GOOD QUESTION JIM. HAD THE TREES NOT BEEN THERE, WE PROBABLY NEVER WOULD HAVE KNOWN. AND IT PROBABLY NEVER WOULD HAVE HAD THIS ISSUE. BUT I'M GLAD WE FOUND OUT NOW THAT IT HAD INADEQUATE FOUNDATION AND DID IT THE RIGHT WAY. CEMETERY FEES JUST KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WHAT IT COSTS TO PASS ON. IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE TO IT THAN JUST DIGGING A HOLE AND HAVING A SERVICE AND 
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THEN FILLING THE HOLE IN THERE'S, THERE'S QUITE A BIT TO IT. IN 2024, WE HAD 160 BURIALS IN THE BUILDING AND 68 IN ROSE HILL. DO YOU EXPECT THOSE NUMBERS TO BE PRETTY CONSISTENT? ONCE OUR INVENTORY THIS ROSE HILL? LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THOSE YEARS AND YOU HAVE MORE TO SELL. SO IT MAKES A TON OF SENSE WHY IT'S SO MUCH LESS. YEAH, WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY AT THE BUILDING AS WELL. YEP. AND IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THE ROSE HILL, THE STATE LAW THAT CHANGED THAT WE COULD COME BACK AND REUSE PLOTS THAT NO ONE HAD INTERACTED WITH FOR OVER 100 YEARS, OR WHATEVER THAT RULE WAS, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE PLOTS IN ROSE HILL RIGHT THERE, LOST OWNERSHIP. YEAH. WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST NOW LOOKING AT SOME NEW SOFTWARE. THE OLD REPORTS AND THE OLD THE OLD DATA THAT WE KEPT FROM THE CEMETERIES WAS LITERALLY THESE OLD BOOKS THAT, I MEAN, IT IS AMAZING TO SEE THE HISTORY THAT ARE IN THESE. AND IT'S A IT'S A TOUGH THING TO FOLLOW BECAUSE SOME, SOME SEXTANTS BACK IN THE DAY MIGHT HAVE GONE, YOU KNOW, THESE EIGHT SECTIONS, THIS SECTION OF EIGHT PLOTS IS ONE THROUGH FOUR THIS WAY AND FIVE THROUGH EIGHT THIS WAY. THE NEXT SEXTANT WAS TAUGHT THAT YOU DO IT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. AND SO OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD INCIDENCES WHERE WE'VE GONE TO DO A BURIAL AND MAYBE ONE OF THE LAST OF AN EIGHT SET PIECE SECTION THAT WE'VE FOUND OUT THAT THAT'S NOT THE OPEN PIECE AND THAT WE HAD TO GO IN AND ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT WHICH SPOT. AND SO WE ARE TRYING, I GUESS, TO DIGITALIZE AND GET AS MUCH GOOD INFORMATION AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY, IF WE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO IT, JUST THAT THERE IS SOME LEGAL PROCESS WITH THAT NEW LAW THAT WE JUST HAVEN'T EVER DONE. SO IF WE WANTED TO GET SOME INVENTORY ON ROSE HILL USING THAT LEGISLATION, THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL PROCESS STEPS THE CITY NEEDS TO DO FIRST BEFORE IT CAN JUST START SELLING. IS THERE REALLY ANY VALUE IN DOING? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 40 SPOTS? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT 120? LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T REALLY KNOW TO PJ'S POINT. I MEAN, WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE. WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE. AND SOMETIMES ROSE HILL IS A DIFFICULT CEMETERY. 
          SOMETIMES WHEN THEY THINK THEY HAVE A SPOT, THEY'LL DIG INTO IT AND LEARN THAT IT'S OCCUPIED. 
          YEAH. SO. IT HAPPENS MORE THAN YOU THINK. YEAH. OKAY. SO NEW IN 2024. WE'VE STARTED ON OUR PARK SIGN LANDSCAPING. WE INSTALL TWO NEW PLAYGROUNDS AT 20TH STREET AND SOUTH CAPITOL. WE'VE GOT OUR SOD DOWN. HERITAGE PARK LOOKS AMAZING. NEW TENNIS COURTS AT TOPS AND A NEW RESTROOM AT THE ALL ACCESS PLAYGROUND IN THOMAS PARK. JUST ONE OF THE THINGS REALLY QUICK I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ON THAT IS I THINK EVERYBODY HAS PROBABLY SEEN IT. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT THE RELOCATION OF THAT PLAYGROUND AT SOUTH CAPITOL PARK, I THINK THAT SHOWS WHAT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SOME CREATIVE OUTSIDE OF THE BOX THINKING AND SOME CHANGE OF SCENERY AND CHANGE OF LANDSCAPE CAN DO. YOU KNOW, I USED TO DRIVE BY THAT AND NEVER SEE ANYBODY EVER PLAYING AT THAT PLAYGROUND. AND I'M GUESSING YOU'RE ALL LIKE ME THAT EVERY TIME YOU GO BY IT. NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE, THERE ARE FAMILIES, THERE ARE GROUPS THAT ARE UTILIZING THAT. AND JUST AN AMAZING REJUVENATION OF SOUTH CAPITOL PARK. AND EXCITING BECAUSE THE ART MUSEUM IS DOING A BIG PROJECT, HOPEFULLY SOON AS WELL. YEAH, I JUST THINK THAT WHOLE AREA IS GOING TO BE REDONE. JUST A QUICK BUDGET BUDGET REVIEW. WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD IN OUR PARK. MAINTENANCE. 2703 IT LOOKS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HIGH THERE FOR BEING MARCH, BUT THE REASON IS THERE IS WE TRY TO GET OUR STAFF TO GET THEIR BIG ORDERS IN EARLY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S CLEANING SUPPLIES, HERBICIDES AND CHEMICALS FOR SPRAYING. SO A LOT OF THE BIG TICKET ITEMS WE JUST TRY TO GET GET OUT OF THE WAY FIRST OF THE YEAR. SO WE'RE NOT SCRAMBLING TO GET IT DONE TOWARDS OCTOBER. SO OTHER THAN THAT THAT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT ONE ONE PIECE. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE ALL FROM OUR BLUE BOOKS THAT WE RECEIVE. OUR LAST SET OF BLUE BOOKS IS FOR THE MONTH OF JANUARY. SO THIS GOES BACK TO A 33RD. THAT'S WHAT OUR PRESENTATION WILL BE ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY THROUGH THE BUDGET YEAR. SO YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING PRETTY GOOD. THAT ONE. TOP ONE THE ADMINISTRATION. THE CURRENT EXPENSES ARE -64,000. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS WE HAVE GRANT MONEY THAT HAS BEEN THAT WAS SPENT OUT OF THE VERY END OF LAST YEAR. THAT IS STILL TRICKLING IN FROM THE STATE, AND IT'S BEING PLACED INTO AN EXPENSE ACCOUNT INTO THAT. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT OVER, OBVIOUSLY, TO A REVENUE ACCOUNT FOR BETTER ACCOUNTING. 
          BUT THAT ONE KIND OF THREW THAT ENTIRE NUMBER OFF FOR US. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE 
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SHOWED AT THE BOTTOM IT IS WE ARE 20. WE WERE 24% OF THE WAY THROUGH OUR EXPENSES AS OF END OF JANUARY. BUT WITHOUT THAT WEIRD BUDGET IN THERE, WE'RE STILL SITTING AT ABOUT 27%. SO WE'RE STILL UNDER BUDGET FOR THE TIME OF YEAR. AND A SUMMARY ON THAT. PERSONNEL COSTS WERE 48%, OPERATING EXPENSES 43%, AND CAPITAL OUTLAY 9%. WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE A HYBRID APPROACH TO MAINTENANCE. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PRETTY GRACIOUS ON ON OUR LINE ITEM FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, WHICH WE'VE UTILIZED FOR SECURITY, HIRING MORE OF THIS STUFF OUT, YOU KNOW, STUMP GRINDING A LOT OF THESE THINGS THAT THAT EAT UP A LOT OF OUR STAFF'S TIME. SO WE GOT NIGHTLY SECURITY PATROLS OF HIGH USE PARKS AND FACILITIES, WHICH KEEPS THE COST DOWN FOR VANDALISM AND OTHER THINGS. WEEKLY MOWING AND TRIMMING OF 64.68 ACRES OF LANDSCAPED DRIVEWAYS AND STORM PONDS. AND STANFORD POOLS. I DID JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT REALLY QUICK. 
          THE NIGHTLY PATROLS HAVE BEEN AN AMAZING ADDITION FOR US. IF YOU REMEMBER, 2023 WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SUMMER FOR US WITH VANDALISM. WE LOST A LOT OF TOILETS. WE LOST A LOT OF AMENITIES THAT WERE THAT ARE WITHIN OUR OUR PARK OR OUR RESTROOMS. I BELIEVE WE WERE ABOUT $60,000 THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER IN REPLACED EQUIPMENT WE WERE STARTING TO LOOK AT. ARE WE PUTTING. I HAD ACTUALLY INSTRUCTED THE STAFF TO START REPLACING STAINLESS STEEL TOILETS IN EVERYTHING. LET'S STOP. LET'S STOP DOING PORCELAIN. IT'S NOT FRIENDLY. IT DOESN'T HAVE SEATS. IT'S NOT AS NEARLY AS YOU KNOW. IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE IN A BIG CITY PARKS DIVISION RATHER THAN A SMALL COMMUNITY LIKE OURS. AND SO AS WE BROUGHT THEM ON, WE'VE BEEN PAYING NOT A LOT FOR THEM. WE PAID ABOUT 15,000 FOR THE ENTIRE SUMMER FOR THEM TO MANAGE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, THREE VISITS A NIGHT TO TEN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. AND WE HAVE THOSE SPORADICALLY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. AND IT HAS IT HAS COMPLETELY CHANGED THE, THE LOOK FOR US FOR VANDALISM. BETWEEN THAT AND THEN WHAT WE DID WITH OUR ARPA FUNDING TO PUT ON AUTOMATIC LOCKING DOORS ON OUR BATHROOMS, ON A HANDFUL OF OUR SIGNIFICANT RESTROOMS, AS WELL AS CAMERA SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO A STOP VANDALISM FROM HAPPENING. AND WHEN IT HAS HAPPENED, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THEM ON SIGNIFICANT ONES. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND JUST ABOUT EVERY PERPETRATOR, FROM THOSE FROM FUNLAND TO MULTIPLE RESTROOMS. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT HAS BEEN A PHENOMENAL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND OUR THIS THIS PRIVATE SECURITY COMPANY. AND WE'VE JUST CONTINUED TO RELY ON THEM AND USE THEM FOR AS MANY OPTIONS AS WE CAN, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A GREAT, GREAT PARTNERSHIP. THE RESTROOM GET REBUILT IN TAPAS BY THE SHELTER, ONE THAT GOT SET ON FIRE. YES. IT'S DONE. YEAH IT DID. IT TOOK A LONG TIME. IT WAS ALMOST A DARN DARN YEAR TO GET IT REPLACED. AND IT CAME IN. WE ORIGINALLY GOT A BID. IT CAME IN. IT ENDED UP BEING MUCH MORE DAMAGE THAN THEY HAD THOUGHT ORIGINALLY. AND SO WE DID HAVE TO WORK WITH THAT COMPANY. BUT YES, IT IS BACK BACK UP AND RUNNING. OKAY. HERE IS THE WHAT'S THE COST RECOVERY ON AS VANDALISM GOES DOWN. OUR SECURITY COSTS OBVIOUSLY ARE REAL. AND SO ABOUT $60,000 IN DAMAGE PRIOR TO SECURITY. HOW MUCH DOES SECURITY COST IS O SECURE SECURITY FOR SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 3000. IS IT 3000, 1000 A MONTH, 3000 A MONTH. SO WE'RE PAYING MAY THROUGH SEPTEMBER FOR 15,000 BUCKS. THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE NO BRAINER. IT HAS BEEN AN AMAZING. WE ALSO SWITCHED. WE BROUGHT THEM ON FOR THE WINTER AS WELL. 
          IT'S WE'VE DONE KIND OF A VERY NARROWED DOWN VERSION WHERE WE'VE DONE FOUR SPOTS PER NIGHT AND BUT STILL TWICE A NIGHT, AND BROUGHT THEM ON A LITTLE EARLIER TO START SCOOTING PEOPLE OUT BEFORE THE CURFEW OR BEFORE THE PARKS CLOSED. AND THAT'S ABOUT $800 A MONTH, IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING RIGHT NOW. SO FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR VERY MINIMUM FOR UNDER 20,000 A YEAR, WE'RE HAVING ALMOST ALL OF THAT VANDALISM HAS HAS GONE AWAY FOR US. I AM SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT. THANK YOU. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS USING THIS HYBRID APPROACH. I THINK THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING WE'RE INTERESTED IN. AND YOU SAID WE'RE HIRING ABOUT 33 TEMPORARY MAINTENANCE FOLKS, BUT IT SHOULD BE MORE LIKE 60 IF IT WAS A TIGHT ARE WE REALLY SPENDING ANY MORE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE SAVINGS FROM THAT AND WE'RE USING IT HERE? IS THAT LARGELY. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? YEAH. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE IDEA IS TO CUT BACK ON OUR STAFFING. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR YOU GUYS TO GIVE US FULL TIME STAFF EVERY YEAR. AND YOU'VE BEEN GREAT ON WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. BUT THAT'S THE IDEA IS TO HIRE MORE OF THIS STUFF OUT. THAT'S 
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NOT PARK PROPERTY MORE RIGHT OF WAYS MORE STORM PONDS. YEAH. SO THIS ISN'T LIKE 200,000 MORE DOLLARS THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU. THIS IS KIND OF USING SAVINGS FROM HIRING PEOPLE TO THEN BE ABLE TO DO. YES. AND WE HAVE TRANSFERRED THAT INTO THAT DIFFERENT COST CODE. AND WE'VE KIND OF FLOATED THAT ACROSS. SO IT'S BEEN ABSORBED INTO OUR O&M. BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT. BUT ABSOLUTELY, IT'S BEEN A I THINK IT'S BEEN A LARGE PAYOFF FOR US IN THE PRIOR YEARS. WE'VE BEEN HIRING ON A COMPANY THAT THAT HAS WON THE BID. THE LOW BID HAS DONE PRETTY MUCH ALL OF SUNNYSIDE HIT ROAD. LOTS OF OUR RIDING WITH STREET ISLANDS, 25TH STREET ISLANDS, THOSE ONES THAT DON'T MAYBE SCREAM. I KNOW AT ONE POINT COUNCILMAN FRANCIS HAD SAID, IN OUR PARK SYSTEM, WE WANT TO SEE OUR PARKS EMPLOYEES, AND WE LOVE THAT AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE THAT. SO WE'RE SAYING AS LONG AS WE'RE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, AS LONG AS WE'RE IN THESE STORM PONDS, LET'S PUT MORE FOLKS OUT THERE THAT ARE FROM THE COMMUNITY. WE CAN HELP. WE CAN HELP GIVE GET BUSINESS OUT TO SOME OF THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES. WE CAN HELP SUPPORT THAT AS WELL AS NOT CONTINUING TO GROW OUR OUR BUDGET IN AREAS LIKE FTES THAT ARE GOING TO BE PERPETUITY IN PERPETUITY WITH RAISES EVERY YEAR. HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS JOSH AND I HAD GONE TO A SESSION AT ONE OF THE CONFERENCES A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AT ONE OF OUR NATIONAL RECREATION PARK ASSOCIATION CONFERENCES. IT WAS ABOUT A LARGE CEMETERY IN TEXAS THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES HAVE ALMOST COMPLETELY GONE FROM, FROM DOING THE, THE ACTUAL LABOR TO BEING CONTRACT CONSULTING. 
          FACILITATORS, I GUESS. AND SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, IS CHECKING UP ON THOSE CONSULTANTS, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING AN ADEQUATE JOB, AND THEY'VE REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY LOWERED THE NUMBER OF FULL TIME STAFF THAT THEY HAVE. SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AND WANT TO CONTINUE TO PUSH TOWARDS, TO NOT ONLY SEE HOW WE CAN NOT GROW, BUT AS IMPACT FEES, BUILD NEW PARKS AS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW, HOW DO WE KEEP OUR STAFFING WHERE WE'RE AT AND MOVE INTO MORE OF A MANAGEMENT? ORGANIZATION WHERE WE'RE MANAGING THOSE THOSE CONTRACTORS, RATHER THAN GOING OUT AND DOING THAT OURSELVES? SO AND I AGREE COMPLETELY. I JUST THINK WE DO NEED TO KEEP THE HYBRID APPROACH SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO GET SOMEONE THAT GETS HERE EVENTUALLY. RIGHT? SO WE NEED GOOD EMPLOYEES AT THE BEGINNING AS WELL AND TRY TO GET THERE. SO WE DON'T WANT TO EVER GET TO ZERO. RIGHT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AT ALL. THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE AS FAR FROM WHERE WE WANT TO GO. 
          I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE BUY IN AND HAVE CITY EMPLOYEES THAT KNOW THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, HAS THAT HAS THE OWNERSHIP OF OUR PARK SYSTEM, CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THAT. BUT I THINK CERTAINLY ON SOME OF THAT HELP ON THE FRINGES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY BRING PEOPLE INTO THE HOUSE. AND A LOT OF IT'S ABOUT TIME, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YEAH, THE LESS TIME THEY'RE ON A STRIP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, THE MORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN OUR PARKS. YEAH. MAKING IMPROVEMENTS. CAN I ASK YOU GUYS A QUESTION ABOUT THE YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TREES THAT WE'VE LOST IN THE. YOU REMINDED ME WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT 25TH STREET IN THERE IN PARTICULARLY IN HOMES THAT I SEE ALL THE TIME WHERE PEOPLE HAVE RUN OVER TREES AND TAKEN THEM OUT. AND THE STUMP IS STILL SITTING THERE. AND YOU SAID YOU HAD A PLAN TO REPLACE THOSE TREES OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T DO THEM ALL AT ONCE. BUT WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THEM OUT THERE AND DOING IT. OKAY. BUT IT'S STILL ON THE IT'S STILL A PRIORITY. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. THERE ARE ACTUALLY SOME OF THE AREAS SNAKE RIVER LANDING OR SNAKE RIVER PARKWAY IS ONE THAT WE CAN REPLANT ONE EVERY YEAR AND THEY GET HIT EVERY YEAR. SO THERE'S SOME OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SAY, WE'RE NOT PUTTING A TREE BACK HERE BECAUSE IT GETS HIT EVERY YEAR. BUT THE 25TH STREET ISLANDS, YOU KNOW, THOSE THOSE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE REPLACED. AND WE CAN ALWAYS RELY ON ON ADDITIONAL EYES. SO, JIM, IF YOU'RE OUT AND ABOUT AND SEE SOMETHING AND YOU CAN SNAP A PHOTO, ASK ME ABOUT IT, SEND IT TO ME, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO PUT THAT TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF QUICKER, JUST A MATTER OF KNOWING WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHERE WE NEED TO GET AND HAVING THE RIGHT EYES AND THE RIGHT EARS ON IT. OKAY. JUST ONE MORE THING ON THIS SLIDE I WANT TO WE'RE LOOKING INTO MORE AUTONOMOUS MAINTENANCE MACHINES. WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WITH THE LINE PAINTERS FOR THE SOCCER FIELDS AND BASEBALL FIELDS. THOSE HAVE CUT MAN HOURS WAY BACK WHEN THE MACHINES WORK. 
          RIGHT. THEY'VE HELPED IMMENSELY THAT THAT HAS DEFINITELY BEEN OUR OUR STRUGGLE WITH THESE IS WE'RE ON THE FRONT END OF THIS RIGHT. AND SO WE THERE'S TWO COMPANIES THAT ARE COMPETING WITH EACH OTHER AND TRYING TO OUT BUY EACH OTHER AND OUTGROW EACH OTHER. BUT WHEN IT WORKS, IT'S AMAZING. IT'S A SINGLE SOCCER FIELD, CAN TAKE UP TO THREE HOURS OF, OF LABOR TIME TO, TO LINE OUT A SOCCER FIELD. ONE OF THESE MACHINES CAN DO IT IN ABOUT 23 MINUTES, A SINGLE FIELD. AND SO IT IS A HUGE SAVINGS. DEFINITELY A BENEFIT TO US. JUST GOT TO KEEP THE THING 
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RUNNING. AND, YOU KNOW, NEW SOLENOIDS BROUGHT IN FROM THE FACTORY AND THAT KIND OF THING. 
          OKAY. SO REAL QUICK COMING IN 2025, HERITAGE PARK RESTROOMS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE'VE BEEN. GIVEN $60,000 FROM ROTARY THINK. THANK THANK YOU TO THE ROTARY FOR TWO RENTABLE SHELTERS FOR THAT PARK. CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURES IN THERE OTHER THAN THE PUMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO IT'LL BE NICE ADDITION TO HAVE SOME A COUPLE SHOW SHELTERS IN THERE. TUFTS PARK, NORTH PARK REALIGNMENT IS UNDERWAY, AND ROGERS STREET, I BELIEVE, WILL BEGIN IN APRIL. CONTINUE TO THREE PLAYGROUNDS THIS YEAR. THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO ANTARES PARK, BELLAIRE AND WILLOWBROOK. WE HAVE TWO WATER CONSERVATION PROJECTS GOING TO SURFACE WATER AND COMMUNITY PARK AND ERICKSON, TWO NEW FLEET TRUCKS ON THE WAY AND ONE NEW TV IN THREE PLAYGROUNDS A YEAR IS KIND OF OUR PATTERN. YEAH, OKAY. IT IT REALLY IS BUDGET BASED. WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TWO OF THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE DID. THESE THREE PARKS ARE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER PARKS. AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME SMALLER PLAYGROUNDS TO PUT THOSE IN. BUT TYPICALLY WE'RE GOING WITH TWO A LITTLE BIT MORE MID-SIZED. YEAH. WELL WE'RE GOING AND THEN WE WILL FINISH PAVING THE ROADWAYS IN ROSEVILLE CEMETERY. CAPITAL PLAN 2026 250,000 FOR REALIGNMENT. SOFTBALL DRIVE 250,000. REBUILD PICKLE FOR THE REBUILD PICKLEBALL COURTS AT LINCOLN, 2027 200,000 FOR THOMAS PARK FOUNTAIN RENOVATION 200,000. REPLACEMENT OF FEELING SANITARY IRRIGATION SYSTEM AND IMPACT FEE DEPENDENT 650,000 FOR THE MAYVILLE PARK EIGHT ACRE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WILL ALSO BE PART OF THE WCF. 100,000 FOR SOCCER FIELD LIGHTING AT MILL ERICKSON AND 200 FOR HERITAGE PARKING LOT NUMBER TWO. I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT THE THOMAS PARK FOUNTAIN, BECAUSE MY DAD WAS ON THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME. ERNIE CRANER WAS THE WAS THE PARKS DIRECTOR AND MRS. GUSTAFSON, WHO JIM FRANCIS LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY, SHE LEFT, I THINK IT WAS $12,000 TO BEAUTIFY THOMAS PARK IN HER WILL. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY BUILT THAT FOUNTAIN WITH ORIGINALLY. WAS THAT MONEY? THAT'S WHAT THEY USED IT FOR. I WENT WITH I WENT WITH MY DAD AND ERNIE DOWN TO SALT LAKE, AND THEY MET WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT DESIGNED THE FOUNTAIN, AND IT'S STILL RUNNING TODAY. I MEAN, IT'S I DON'T EVEN KNOW. I WAS PROBABLY 15 AT THE TIME, SO IT'S BEEN OVER 50 YEARS AGO, SO. WOW, THAT'S PRETTY COOL. WELL, ONE OTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WAS ON THAT OR THAT PART OF THAT IS THEY TOOK THAT MONEY AND MULTIPLIED IT WITH LWCF FUNDING. SO LWCF FUNDING ACTUALLY IS TIED TO THAT FOUNTAIN AND THE ENTIRE EAST EAST PORTION OF THOMAS TO HELP WITH THAT. BUT IT WAS ABOUT $75,000 THAT THEY SPENT FOR A FOUNTAIN. AND TO BEAUTIFY THAT ENTIRE EASTERN 40 ACRES. PRETTY AMAZING. YEAH. QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT, JIM. THANK. I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION. HAS ANY THOUGHT EVER. AND LET'S NOT TAKE A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE WE ARE RACING HERE. BUT HAS ANY THOUGHT EVER BEEN GIVEN WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT TO GETTING AN INTERN, PERHAPS TO START WRITING THE HISTORY OF. I MEAN, CASE IN POINT, RIGHT, THERE ARE STORIES THAT WE'RE LOSING AS WE LOSE PEOPLE AND TIME. BUT ANY THOUGHT GIVEN TO THAT? I'VE BEEN WORRYING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE AN HISTORIAN EITHER, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT STORIES. TO BE HONEST, I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT. BUT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. WE'LL HAVE TO. WE'LL HAVE TO PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER, IF THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO LOVE THAT. AND I YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME MILESTONES. WHEN THOMAS PARK TURNED 75, IN, IT WAS, I THINK ABOUT 97. YEAH. WAS IT ABOUT 1997 SOMEWHERE IN THERE WE DID HAVE A LARGE PROJECT THAT WENT OUT FOR AT LEAST ON THOMAS FOR SOME OF THE HISTORY, BUT I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH A WHILE BACK. BUT YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. 
          WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE RECREATION DIVISION. SO I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY SLIDE, BUT I DO WANT TO READ THIS ONE BECAUSE IT GIVES A GREAT INTRODUCTION TO WHO WE ARE AS THE RECREATION DIVISION. THAT ALL FALLS RECREATION DIVISION STRIVES TO ENHANCE COMMUNITY BY PLANNING, IMPLEMENTING AND FACILITATING YEAR ROUND RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDING LEAGUES, LESSONS, CAMPS, CLASSES, TOURNAMENTS AND EVENTS FOR ALL AGES. THROUGH ITS AQUATIC, RECREATION AND ICE FACILITIES, THE DIVISION PROVIDES DIVERSE PROGRAMS THAT PROMOTE ACTIVE 
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LIFESTYLES AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. SO WE ARE THE RECREATION DIVISION. A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I'M GETTING MY HAIRCUT. I TELL THEM WHAT I DO, THEY SAY, OH, YOU'RE THE FUN DIVISION. WHAT WE DO IS, IS FUN FOR THE PARTICIPANTS, BUT WE REALLY ARE IN THE HEALTH BUSINESS OF MENTAL HEALTH, SOCIAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL HEALTH AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH. SO THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE ARE YEAR ROUND. THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED ABOUT WHEN I GET MY HAIRCUT IN THE WINTER TIME, THEY GO, OH, IT'S THE WINTER TIME. SO WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? I'M GOING, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE RECREATE IN THE SUMMERTIME OR IN THE WINTERTIME TOO. WE'RE JUST AS BUSY THE POOLS YEAR ROUND. WE HAVE THE ICE RINK GOING, SO LET LET'S TELL YOU WHO WE ARE. SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK ORGANIZATIONAL CHART OF THE REC DIVISION. WE HAVE 11 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT FOUR DIFFERENT SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN THE RECREATION DIVISION. SO THOSE DIVISIONS OR SUBDIVISIONS ARE ADMINISTRATIVE AND RECREATION CENTER OPERATIONS THAT OPERATE OUT OF THE RECREATION CENTER ON MEMORIAL DRIVE. SPORTS AND PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE TWO THREE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES THAT OPERATE OUT OF THE RECREATION CENTER. ALTHOUGH A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS TAKE US THROUGHOUT FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY OPERATE OUT OF THEN WE HAVE THE WEST EAST AQUATIC CENTER, WHERE WE HAVE FOUR FULL TIME STAFF THAT OPERATE THOSE. THAT FACILITY. AND THEN THE MAR MARMOLEJO ICE RINK, WHERE WE HAVE ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE. IN ADDITION. WELL, I GUESS OUR PRIMARY HARD ASSETS ARE THE RECREATION CENTER, THE WEST COAST AQUATIC CENTER, AND THEN THE MARMOLEJO ICE RINK. THOSE ARE OUR THREE PHYSICAL FACILITIES. THEN OUR DIVISION HAS THREE SMALL TRUCKS THAT WE USE, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO ICE RESURFACERS. WE HAVE A ZAMBONI AND AN OLYMPIA. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THOSE. ALTHOUGH SOME OF OUR ASSETS MIGHT SEEM DATED, WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL TO HAVE THEM AND TO, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT WE CAN TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY, WHICH YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE IS A LOT. SO CAN I CAN I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK? IS THE OLYMPIA THE REALLY OLD ONE THAT CAME FROM? OH, THE OLYMPIA IS THE NEWER ONE, ACTUALLY. OKAY. YEAH, THERE WAS ONE THAT CAME, BUT I THOUGHT THAT FROM THE 1960 OLYMPICS. YEAH, I REMEMBER THAT ONE. OKAY. THAT WAS A ZAMBONI. OKAY. YEAH, YEAH. SO WHAT WE DO IN TOTAL, THE RECREATION DIVISION BETWEEN ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND STUFF, THIS IS JUST A HUGE PICTURE OF THAT THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE 1380 PLUS ADMISSIONS LAST YEAR. WE RUN OVER 300 PROGRAMS. WE HAD OVER 7000 PROGRAM HOURS AND OVER 14,000 PARTICIPANTS IN OUR PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS. WHAT DOES ADMISSIONS DEFINE THAT FOR US? SO ADMISSIONS IS ANY PAID ENTRY TO THE REC CENTER OF THE ICE RINK OR THE AQUATIC CENTER? IT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE A PROGRAM. SO IF YOU COME TO A SWIM LESSON, THAT IS NOT AN ADMISSION. THAT'S A PROGRAM. PUBLIC SWIM, PUBLIC SKATE DROPPING IN AT THE REC CENTER TO SHOOT HOOPS. THAT'S AN ADMISSION. AND THEN THOSE THAT OTHER PIE CHART JUST SHOWS THE FACILITIES THAT WE THAT WE PROGRAM IN. FOR THE SAKE OF TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE DEFINING WHAT EACH PERSONNEL DOES AT THE REC CENTER, BUT THAT'S JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THOSE FOUR STAFF MEMBERS AND SOME OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. BUT IN SUMMARY, WE GOT TO KEEP OPERATIONS GOING FOR ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS. SO LET'S JUMP INTO SOME OF THESE BUDGETS AND WHAT THEY DO INDIVIDUALLY. SO AT THE RECREATION CENTER WE HAD OVER 5000 ADMISSIONS LAST YEAR. WE HAD OVER 700 FACILITY AND SHELTER RESERVATIONS AND OVER 600 VENDING PERMITS. AND THOSE BROUGHT IN THE CORRESPONDING REVENUES. WITH THOSE. ONE THING THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IS IF I HAD SAID IT DOESN'T MATCH NECESSARILY, WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE REC CENTERS ADMISSION FEES AND THEN THE REVENUE BASED OFF OF THE TOTAL, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE CHARGING LESS THAN TWO BUCKS TO GET IN THE. A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT COME UTILIZE OUR FACILITY ARE ACTUALLY ON EITHER THE BUSINESS PASS WHICH IS NEW BALL ESSENTIALLY, OR A YEAR MEMBERSHIP PASS. SO THEY ARE MEMBERS THAT PAY ONCE AND COME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO FOR SPORTS AND PROGRAMING, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THREE FULL TIME 
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STAFF THAT OPERATE OUT OF THIS BUDGET. THE REC SUPERVISOR, THE REC COORDINATOR, AND THEN THE BASKETBALL ATTENDANT, WHICH IS CLEVE. AND THEN WE HAVE 71 PART TIME SEASONAL EMPLOYEES THAT ASSIST OUR OPERATIONS. THEY'RE DOING JOB CAPACITIES LIKE REFEREE, UMPIRE, CASHIER, SCOREKEEPER. THAT IS IN OUR PEAK TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN WE HAVE 71 PART TIME STAFF. THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR ANY OF OUR CONTRACTED OFFICIALS. SO BOTH THE REC SUPERVISOR AND THE REC COORDINATOR, IN ADDITION TO THE PART TIME STAFF MEMBERS, THEY ARE SCHEDULING AND COORDINATING WITH, THEY HAVE A PRIVATE CONTRACTOR AND OFFICIALS THAT ARE UMPIRING SOFTBALL GAMES AND REFEREEING BASKETBALL GAMES. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE PRODUCED 104 PROGRAMS, HAD OVER 8000 PARTICIPANTS OVER 3000 HOURS AND OVER 700 VOLUNTEER COACHES. AND I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, BRIEFLY HERE AGAIN, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WHEN THEY HEAR RECREATION, THEY THINK, OH, YOU GUYS ARE THE FUN ONES. YOU KNOW, THE PARKS ARE THE WORKERS BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE MOWING AND CUTTING AND YOU GUYS ARE THE FUN ONES. BUT, YOU KNOW, 104 PROGRAMS, EVERY ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS TAKES COORDINATION, TAKES BEHIND THE SCENE. BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION OR PURCHASING OR SCHEDULING. WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH COACHES, PARENTS AND ADULTS. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT THAN JUST THE PITCH OR THE SHOT. OUR AQUATIC CENTER, AGAIN, THE FOUR FULL TIME STAFF THERE IN THE PEAK OF THE YEAR, THEY HAVE ABOUT 68 PART TIME STAFF. THAT IS DOWN COMPARED TO IF YOU GO BACK 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO BEFORE LABOR CHALLENGES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY STARTING TO HIT HARD. THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHERE THEY'VE HAD CLOSER TO 100 PART TIME STAFF ON DURING THEIR PEAK TIME, BUT THE AQUATIC CENTER IS DEFINITELY THE FACILITY THAT GETS THE MOST ADMISSIONS IN MY DIVISION. THEY HAD OVER 100,000 ADMISSIONS LAST YEAR, 61 PROGRAMS, OVER 5000 PARTICIPANTS, ALMOST 3000 HOURS. THEY ALSO SEE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS, A LOT OF THEIR SWIM TEAM PROGRAMS ARE ARE COACHED BY VOLUNTEER PARENTS AND ENTHUSIASTS THAT ARE JUST TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE GAME, AND THEY HAVE 18 USER GROUPS. BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OF THOSE 18 USER GROUPS. SOME OF THOSE ARE THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT PIE CHART THAT REPRESENTS THE SANCTIONED IDAHO HIGH SCHOOL ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATION SWIM SEASON. SO THOSE ARE THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT EACH OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE USING OUR FACILITY IN ORDER TO PRACTICE AND BE ABLE TO FACILITATE THAT HIGH SCHOOL SPORT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT LATER ON WITH WHERE OUR OUR BUDGET HAS GONE, WE WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT GAINS THIS, THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE THIS THIS FALL WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE HAD IMPLEMENTED A SIGNIFICANT COST CHANGE OR FEE CHANGE TO THE HIGH SCHOOLS. SO WHERE THEY WERE TYPICALLY PAYING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 13 TO $15 A LANE, THEY'RE NOW PAYING IN BETWEEN. $16 AND UP TO $27 PER HOUR PER LANE. AND SO WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE SOME GROWTH WITH OUR FISCAL ACCOUNTABILITY AT THE AT THE AQUATIC CENTER BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND THAT THESE HIGH SCHOOLS ARE ARE PUTTING ON OUR FACILITY AS THE DEMAND GONE DOWN BECAUSE THE PRICE HAS GONE UP, OR IS IT STILL, YOU KNOW, AT THE USERS MEETING, THE FIRST SCHOOL THAT OBJECTIVELY COMPLAINED AND WAS MAD AT THE MEETING WAS NOT EVEN A CITY SCHOOL. AND I THOUGHT, GOOD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR ALTERNATIVE IS, BUT COMPLAIN ALL YOU WANT, BUT THEY DID DECREASE SOME OF THEIR HOURS. RUGBY ESPECIALLY. THEY DECREASED WHAT THEY REQUESTED. THEY WERE PROBABLY THE ONLY SCHOOL THAT SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED BECAUSE OF THE PRICE. OKAY. SO THEY'VE THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD ACCESS UP AS WELL AS MADISON. THEY THEY BOTH HAVE ACCESS TO BYU-IDAHO AND THE POOL UP THERE. SO IN THE PAST WE WOULD ALWAYS BEEN TOLD BYU-IDAHO WILL NOT OPEN FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND THEY COULDN'T. THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS THAT THAT DOES ALLOW FOR SOME OF THAT. IT'S GIVEN MADISON A PLACE TO PRACTICE COMPLETELY. ASIDE FROM THE AQUATIC CENTER, RUGBY CAN'T DO ALL OF THEIR PRACTICES UP THERE, SO THEY ARE STILL UTILIZING KIND OF HALF AND HALF. OKAY. ON TO THE ICE RINK WHERE WE HAVE ONE FULL TIME EMPLOYEE AND THEN 21 PART TIME EMPLOYEES THAT HELP SUSTAIN THOSE OPERATIONS. OVER 
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20,000 ADMISSIONS THIS PAST YEAR THERE, THEY HAD 173 PROGRAMS. YOU MIGHT THINK WHAT WE DO, 173 DIFFERENT THINGS AT THE ICE RINK. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO? BUT JUST THE WAY THAT WHAT WE CONSIDER A PROGRAM, THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT ICE SKATING SESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT WITHIN EACH OF THOSE SESSIONS, THERE'S MULTIPLE AGES AND CLASSES, AND EACH OF THOSE REQUIRE SCHEDULING STAFF PLANNING FOR EACH OF THOSE AGE GROUPS, TRAINING THE STAFF. AND SO IT IS A LOT OF PROGRAMS. WE HAD SEVEN USER GROUPS OVER THERE. THAT PIE CHART REPRESENTS THE TOTAL USE HOURS OF OUR DIFFERENT USER GROUPS OVER THERE, BUT ALSO CONTRAST IT WITH OUR PUBLIC USE HOURS THROUGHOUT THE SEASON. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT HALF OF THE FACILITY IS STILL PRESERVED FOR PUBLIC USE. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THAT OUT OF THE IDAHO FALLS YOUTH HOCKEY ASSOCIATION IS OUR BIGGEST CONSUMER. EVERY USER GROUP WANTS MORE PIECE OF THE PIE, BUT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF A LOT OF PIE TO GIVE OUT. SO THAT'S A BALANCE BECAUSE THE MOUNTAIN AMERICA CENTER IS LESS THAN THE CITY. DO THEY KEEP THEIR ICE AVAILABLE? SO WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE ADJUSTMENT WITH THE MOUNTAIN AMERICA CENTER THE MOST IS ON TOURNAMENT WEEKEND. SO THE REQUEST OR THE NUMBER OF TOURNAMENT GAMES PLAYED AT OUR FACILITY HAS GONE DOWN. BUT THAT'S A THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WITH THE SPUD KINGS NEEDING SOME PRACTICE SPACE THAT THAT WAS BIG THE FIRST YEAR THEY WERE HERE BUT HAS SINCE DECREASED PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY COMPARED TO THAT FIRST YEAR. AS FAR AS YOU SAID, HALF THE FACILITY, DO YOU MEAN HALF OF THE AVAILABILITY OR DO YOU MEAN HALF THE FACILITY? LIKE WE KEEP HALF THE RINK FOR PUBLIC USE? OH NO, IT'D BE THE TOTAL HOURS OF OPERATION. SO OKAY. AND THEN DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH WHEN WE SEE OUR USAGE DECREASE ON, ON A TOURNAMENT WEEKEND? DO WE KNOW HOW OUR RATES COMPARE RENTAL WISE TO THE MOUNTAIN AMERICA CENTER'S RATES? SO ACCORDING TO SKIERS, ROB, ROB, HE SAID THEY WERE WITHIN 20% OF US THAT THEY THEY TRY AND KEEP IT WITHIN 20% OF OUR RENTAL RATE IS WHAT THEY CHARGE THEIRS. SO THEY ARE CHARGING MORE THERE, BUT THEIR GOAL IS TO KEEP IT WITHIN 20% OF WHAT WE CHARGE. SO THAT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY'RE NOT WORRYING ABOUT BEING RESPECTING THEIR COSTS. SO IT COULD BE A LOSS LEADER FOR THEM IF FOR ALL WE KNOW. BUT OUR OUR FEE IS OUR FEE RECOUP COSTS. YEAH. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE LATER ON. I DID JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON THAT REALLY QUICK THAT THAT WE HAVE GOT THIS FACILITY BACK INTO RUNNING IN THE BLACK IN THE LAST HANDFUL OF YEARS. A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM REALLY STARTING TO SCRUTINIZE THOSE WEEKENDS. PER PURCHASED OR OR THE PUBLIC SKATES BEING CANCELED FOR TOURNAMENTS. WE HAD KIND OF PUT OUR FOOT DOWN A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO TO SAY, WE'VE GOT TO KEEP SOME CONSISTENCY HERE. THIS IS THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RECOUP OUR COSTS THROUGH THAT. THERE WAS SOME GROWING PAINS, BUT THE ORGANIZATIONS STARTED REALIZING THAT YES, THEY DO. THEY CAN'T JUST TAKE OVER ALL OF OUR PUBLIC SKATES, BUT THEY ARE SEEING US WORK WITH THEM MORE, PUT MORE FUNDING BACK INTO THE FACILITY, AND PUTTING MORE MONEY BACK INTO OVERALL THE PROGRAMS. AND SO THAT'S REALLY HELPED US WITH THAT. AND THAT'S ALSO HELPED PUSH THEM TOWARDS THE MOUNTAIN AMERICA CENTER, BECAUSE NOW THEY CAN USE THOSE ENTIRE WEEKENDS. IF THERE'S NOT SOMETHING BOOKED NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM KIND OF PLAYING THROUGHOUT THE DAY WHERE WE'RE GOING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED OUR 2 TO 4 PUBLIC SKATES. SO YOU GOT TO STOP AT 130 SO WE CAN DO CUTS AND CAN'T COME BACK ON UNTIL ANOTHER CUT AT FIVE KIND OF THING. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. AND I'LL JUST TOUCH BRIEFLY ON SOME OF OUR USER GROUPS THAT USE BASEBALL SOFTBALL SOCCER FIELDS. 
          SO WE HAVE ABOUT 13 DIFFERENT USER GROUPS INCLUDING DISTRICT 91 THAT USE OUR FACILITIES. THIS IS JUST KIND OF A HIGHLIGHT CHART OF SOME OF THOSE WITH WITH THE SOCCER COMMUNITY. BUT I KIND OF WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL PARK AND RECREATION ASSOCIATION AND YOUTH SPORTS STUDY, 91% OF AGENCIES PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS TO DELIVER YOUTH SPORTS OFFERINGS. SO IT IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT IN LINE WITH MOST PARKS AND REC AGENCIES THAT THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE DELIVERING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY, AGAIN, WITH THE SAME THING IN MIND, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL HEALTH. BUT SO THESE 
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ARE ALL SOCCER. YEAH, THOSE ARE ALL SOCCER. IDAHO FALLS FOOTBALL CLUB, FORMERLY KNOWN AS BICL. 
          THEY'RE DEFINITELY OUR LARGEST CONSUMER AND USER OF THE SOCCER FIELDS. AND THEN AYSO IS, YOU KNOW, BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME AS WELL. AND THEY'RE A SIGNIFICANT USER. THIS ONE JUST HIGHLIGHTS A FEW OTHERS OF THE TENNIS, YOU KNOW, FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL. AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE USERS. ONE THING ABOUT THIS SLIDE THAT I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL POINT OUT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SCRUTINIZE MORE. THE TENNIS ASSOCIATION IF COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATION. SO THEIR THEIR FEE THAT THEY'VE PAID US FOR YEARS HAS BEEN BASED ON A PER PERSON $1 FEE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THAT IS COMPARED TO A LOT OF THE OTHER USER GROUPS, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM EQUITABLE. WHEN I'VE TALKED TO THE LOCAL PERSON, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY THAT THAT'S PRETTY ON PAR. I'M I'M BEGINNING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE STATE US TENNIS ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVE TO TRY AND FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING ELSEWHERE ACROSS THE STATE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT SHOULD BE EQUITABLE. MORE RECENTLY, WITH THERE'S A NEW GROUP IN TOWN CALLED IDAHO YOUTH TENNIS THAT IS OFFERING A JUNIOR HIGH TENNIS PROGRAM, AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE PAYING $5 PER HOUR PER COURT. THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT SHELLEY HIGH SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE PAYING US, TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE COURTS FOR THEIR PRACTICES. LAST YEAR, THEY CAME TO US NEEDING A SPOT. THIS IS GOING TO BE THEIR LAST YEAR, OR THAT IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE A ONE TIME THING. SO WE ACCOMMODATED THEY CAME IN AFTER THE HIGH SCHOOL PRACTICES AND USED THE COURTS. THEIR COURTS DIDN'T GET FINISHED THIS SPRING, SO THEY CAME BACK AND WERE ACCOMMODATING IT AGAIN WITH HAVING THEM COME IN AFTER OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, THEY ARE BEING PUT BEHIND THE YOUTH TENNIS ASSOCIATION IN TERMS OF PRIORITY. THAT WAY THE YOUTH TENNIS, BECAUSE IT'S TARGETING LOCAL RESIDENTS, ARE HAVING ACCESS TO THE COURTS FIRST BEFORE SHELLEY HIGH SCHOOL. SO WE'RE CHARGING ONE, SEVERAL OR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF GROUPS, ABOUT $5. BUT ONE ONE GROUP IS THE ONE WE NEED TO EQUALIZE. ARE WE PLANNING TO DO THAT OR ARE YOU STILL NEGOTIATING SOMETHING? SO WE HAVE ARE WE IN A SIGNED AGREEMENT? NO, NOT WITH THE IAF COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATION. OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING. CAN WE GET AWAY WITH CHARGING DIFFERENTIAL RATES LIKE THAT? THERE'S THERE MIGHT BE A REASON WHY I WOULD JUST WANT TO ROCK THE BOAT TOO MUCH. SOMEBODY COULD GET YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S PREFERRED TIMING AND YOU'RE PAYING MORE FOR A PREFERRED TIME. I MEAN, THERE'S REASONS TO CHARGE DIFFERENT FEES. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME TO UNDERSTAND. AND THEN I WOULD THINK THAT OUR SOMEWHAT ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN ARPA WOULD GET YOU LOTS OF NATIONALLY AGGREGATED DATA. IS THERE NONE ON THIS OR IS IT VERY SPECIFIC TO A REGION? I HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING ON THAT SPECIFICALLY, BUT THAT'S A GREAT ANOTHER GREAT RESOURCE TO LOOK INTO THAT I CAN THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERING. YEAH. MAYOR, I JUST WANT TO ALSO POINT OUT KIND OF MAYBE THE TIMING, THE TIMELINE ON ON THAT BECAUSE THE IDAHO FALLS COMMUNITY TENNIS ASSOCIATION HAS, HAS UTILIZED OUR COURTS FOR YEARS. THIS WAS KIND OF THE FEE. IT WAS WE DIDN'T REALLY CHARGE FOR TENNIS COURTS, BUT WE NEEDED TO COLLECT SOMETHING TO RESERVE YOUR COURT. SO IT WAS KIND OF A MINIMUM. WHEN SHELLEY CAME, COUNCIL HAD MADE IT CLEAR TO ME THAT THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT KIND OF AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POOL AND TAKING CARE OF OTHER SCHOOLS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA, SAME THING KIND OF CAME UP WITH TENNIS, AND IT WAS A KIND OF A CONCERN. SO WE HAD MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE PAYING ENOUGH, THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THE TIME THAT THEY WERE UTILIZING, WITH IT BEING KIND OF A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT FOR SHELLEY, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BECOME A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR COURTS. WHEN THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN, THEY CAME BACK TO US AFTER SOME OF THESE NEGOTIATIONS AND PRICING, THE ASSOCIATION OUT OF IDAHO, THAT THAT IS COMING UP FROM UTAH. THEY WERE THE ONES THAT HAD KIND OF TOLD CHRIS, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PAYING IN A LOT OF OTHER FACILITIES. SO THAT'S WHERE WE KIND OF STARTED LOOKING AT THAT, LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAD CHARGED. SHELLEY, HOW DID THAT PLAY OUT? IF WE DID IT BY AN HOURLY FEE TO KIND OF SEE HOW EQUITABLE THOSE WERE. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE KIND OF MAKING THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE SPEAK BEFORE THOSE THOSE SEASONS BEGIN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO 
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JUST AS YEAR TO DATE OF OUR RECREATION BUDGET, AGAIN, THIS WAS A SNAPSHOT AS OF JANUARY 31ST. WE ARE WE'RE LOOKING GOOD. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ICE RINK IN TERMS OF EXPENDITURES, IT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE TRENDING PRETTY GOOD KNOWING THAT WE HAD, YOU KNOW, HAD THREE MONTHS OF THE MAJOR ICE SEASON ALREADY UNDERWAY IN TERMS OF EXPENSES. BUT THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS HERE WITH THE REVENUE. YOU CAN SEE PRETTY HIGH OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AS OF JANUARY FOR THE ICE RINK. AGAIN, THAT'S THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE OF THE ICE RINK SEASON BEING PREDOMINANTLY IN THE WINTER TIME. OTHERWISE SOME OF THE PERCENTAGES I WOULD SAY ARE ARE LOW. JUST BECAUSE WE DO HAVE WITH OUR YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMS, A LOT OF THE WINTER ACTIVITIES, OUR YOUTH BASKETBALL PROGRAMS ARE A HIGH REVENUE GENERATOR FOR US, BUT OUR ADULT PROGRAMS ARE PREDOMINANTLY IN THE SUMMER TIME THAT ARE A HIGH GENERATOR IN TERMS OF REVENUE, BUT DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS THERE. THANK YOU. AS WE. TRANSITION INTO JUST TALKING ABOUT FEES BRIEFLY, THIS IS JUST A SLIDE THAT SHOWS SOME DATA FROM THE NATIONAL PARK AND REC. 
          THESE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT SOME AGENCIES STRUCTURE THEIR FEES. THE MOST COMMON ONE BEING THAT YOU'RE SETTING FEES ACCORDING TO YOUR EXPENDITURES, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY LOGICAL AND SOUND WAY TO BUDGET FEES BASED OFF OF FEEDER COST RECOVERY STUDY HIGHER FEES SET FOR PARTICIPANTS THAT LIVING OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON LATELY. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THOSE. SO IF WE LOOK AT SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF OUR FEES, THESE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES, I CAN TELL YOU THAT AS WE AS I LOOKED KIND OF LOCALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR REC CENTER ADMISSION IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH POCATELLO AQUATIC CENTER. 
          WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE POCATELLO REC CENTER. WE'RE SLIGHTLY BELOW WHAT ROSS PARK IS AND BELOW, YOU KNOW, REXBURG RAPIDS FOR OUR ICE RINK. OUR ADMISSION IS SLIGHTLY BELOW BOISE. WE'RE SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE WEST VALLEY FAMILY ICE COURT AND WEST VALLEY, UTAH, AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE MCCALL. AND THEN SOME OF OUR ACTUAL PROGRAM FEES. OUR YOUTH BASKETBALL, FOR EXAMPLE, IS CONSISTENT WITH REXBURG, POCATELLO AND IONA. OUR ADULT SOFTBALL IS CONSISTENT WITH REXBURG AND POCATELLO, AND OUR SWIM LESSONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH REXBURG, SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN POCATELLO, AND OUR YOUTH VOLLEYBALL IS CONSISTENT WITH POCATELLO, SO I FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHERE YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE SITTING WITH OUR FEES THAT WE DO HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY IN COMPARISON TO SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. OUR OUR ICE RINK PER OUR FEE. THAT WAS ONE THAT WE REALLY SCRUTINIZED TWO YEARS AGO AND MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO. THAT WAS BASED OFF OF OUR OPERATING COSTS. AND WE'LL SEE HERE SHORTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT SHOWS THAT IT'S PAYING OFF IN TERMS OF COST RECOVERY. SO COST RECOVERY IN GENERAL HAS BEEN A PRIORITY FOR THE REC TO GET THE TO RIGHTSIZE THE REC FUND. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COST RECOVERY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2024, WE WERE IN THE BLACK. WE DID HIT COST RECOVERY. WE WERE AT 105% WITH 2.8 MILLION IN REVENUES AND 2.6 IN EXPENSES. THAT DOES INCLUDE THE LEVY AS PART OF THE FUNDING AS THE REVENUE. BUT SO ONE, I THANK YOU AS COUNCIL FOR CONTINUING TO SUPPORT US AND IN THOSE REQUESTS TO INCREASE THE LEVY, WHEN WE LOOK AT A PER BUDGET, IT KIND OF TELLS THE STORY OF HOW WE DID IN FISCAL YEAR 2024. SO OUR ADMINISTRATION WHERE COST RECOVERY IN THEIR SPORTS AND PROGRAMS, WE WERE 127% COST RECOVERY. THE AQUATIC CENTER WHERE OUR 54% COST RECOVERY AND THEN THE ICE RINK, WE HAPPEN TO BE AT 127% ALSO. SO RIGHT THERE, THAT JUST PAINTS THE STORY THAT THAT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE DEFICIT IN THE AQUATIC CENTER. THAT'S JUST PART OF THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS, BECAUSE THAT FACILITY DOES COST SO MUCH TO RUN. BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT ALMOST ALL POOLS THAT YOU LOOK AT, SPECIFICALLY INDOOR POOLS WILL BE RIGHT AROUND THAT 50 TO 60% COST RECOVERY. AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AS WE LOOK AT 
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BUILDING OUT A COMMUNITY CENTER, BUILDING OUT DIFFERENT POOLS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT WE DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. ONE THING I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IS ON THAT ADMINISTRATION. EIGHT 4801 COST, COST CODE THERE. THE REASON WHY WE HAVE 162% COST RECOVERY IS THAT IS WHERE THE REC LEVY IS DUMPED INTO. AND SO THAT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE REC LEVY THAT THAT COVERS ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, INDIRECT COSTS FOR SUPERINTENDENTS AND, AND FRONT DESK STAFF AND THAT KIND OF THING, WHICH I THINK IS ALSO KIND OF GOOD TO POINT OUT THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE AQUATIC CENTER OPERATION IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE IN SOME SUBSIDY. 
          BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SPORTS PROGRAMS AND THE ICE RINK AND KNOWING THAT THE LEVY IS NOT INCORPORATED TO EITHER OF THOSE BUDGETS OR THIS ILLUSTRATION ON THE SCREEN, THEN YOU CAN SAY THAT OUR OUR SPORTS AND PROGRAMS ARE HEALTHY. NOT ONLY NOT ONLY DO THEY PROVIDE HEALTH BENEFITS, BUT THE WAY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING, THEY ARE THEY ARE HEALTHY FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, THE MOST EXCITING THING FOR ME IN THIS SLIDE IS, IS THIS SLIDE ACTUALLY. SO RIGHT SIZING THE REC FUND UPDATE. IT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN THAT BECAME A PRIORITY. AND WE CAN SEE HERE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CASH BALANCE AS OF DECEMBER IN THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE IN, THOSE HAVE BEEN THE CASH BALANCES. SO IN DECEMBER OF 2024, WHICH IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2025, WE HIT A POSITIVE CASH BALANCE OF $67,000. SO YOU CAN SEE THE TRAJECTORY THAT MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH FEES HAS HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT. ASKING COUNCIL FOR THAT INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN LEVY OVER THE COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN A CONTRIBUTOR, BUT WE'RE IN A TRAJECTORY THAT IS LOOKING HEALTHY AND LOOKING POSITIVE. AND SO THAT'S THAT'S EXCITING. THAT'S A FUN UPDATE TO BRING. CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH. THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE LEVY DIFFERENCE. ARE YOU GETTING ANOTHER 100,000. ANOTHER 200,000. WHAT'S SO FROM THAT FIRST YEAR THAT WE DID A BIG INCREASE. WE WENT 10% MORE. WE'RE AT ABOUT A LITTLE OVER A MILLION RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S BEEN ABOUT 100,000 A YEAR. YEAH A LITTLE RIGHT AROUND 100,000. SO YOU KNOW, JUST SOME OTHER REC DIVISION CONSIDERATIONS. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE BOILER REPLACEMENT GOING ON IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE AQUATIC CENTER THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS WE SPEAK. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE BID GETTING THAT OUT. BUT IT'S ANTICIPATED TO HAVE THAT SWITCHED OUT IN JULY. AND THEN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS AN ADDITIONAL 10% INCREASE IN THE RECREATION LEVY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026. FINANCE RECOMMENDS THAT WE HAVE 25% OF OUR ANTICIPATED EXPENSES IN CASH BALANCE TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS. SO WHEN YOU TAKE OUR OUR FISCAL YEAR CURRENTLY AND YOU TAKE 25% OF OUR EXPENDITURES, THAT IS ABOUT $120,000. SO THAT THEREFORE WOULD WOULD BE OUR GOAL RIGHT NOW OF KNOWING THIS ROAD OF TRAJECTORY OR THIS ROAD OF GETTING THE REC FUND RIGHT SIZED FROM FINANCES RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE NEED TO BE, IS GOING TOWARDS THAT $820,000 MARK. SOME OF THE THESE ARE JUST AGAIN, NRP REPORT THAT SHOWS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN THE RECREATION DIVISION. THAT HIT HOME TO US NOT ENOUGH VOLUNTEER COACHES, DIFFICULT FINDING OFFICIALS, WHETHER THEY'RE PAID OR VOLUNTEER, INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR FROM PARENTS AT PROGRAMS AND EVENTS, COMPETITION WITH COMPETITIVE TRAVEL, SPORTS LEAGUES, NOT ENOUGH ADMINISTRATION OR STAFF. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THAT WE FACE HERE IN IDAHO FALLS THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH NATIONAL AGENCIES. SO FUTURE PLANNING IS CONTINUING TO WORK TOWARDS BUILDING A COMMUNITY RECREATION CENTER. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ADVOCATES OF AND WILL STAND BEHIND TRYING TO GET US THERE AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. WE WANT TO FIND WAYS TO INCREASE WAGES, TO ATTRACT AND KEEP LIFEGUARDS AND OFFICIALS, PEOPLE THAT ARE CRUCIAL TO OUR OPERATIONS. WE WANT TO LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL VEHICLES FOR STAFF AND PARTICIPANT TRANSPORTATION. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 11 STAFF MEMBERS THAT SHARE THREE VEHICLES. SO THAT CAN KIND OF BECOME TRICKY IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN MULTIPLE PROGRAMS ARE GOING ON. AND THEN WE ALSO SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE HAVE SOME PARTICIPANT TRANSPORTATION TO INCREASE OUR PROGRAM OFFERINGS AND EXPAND IN DIFFERENT WAYS, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO UPGRADE THE ICE RINK FOR MORE COMFORTABLE, 
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COMFORTABLE SPECTATOR EXPERIENCE, BETTER LIGHTING, AND MORE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING SPACE, AND THEN JUST CONTINUE IN PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT WITH PICKLEBALL, SUMMER CAMPS, SPRING BREAK BREAK CAMPS, OUTDOOR ADVENTURES, ART, MUSIC ARE JUST SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE FEEL THAT WE COULD DEVELOP INTO COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. SO AGAIN, AS THE RECREATION SUPERINTENDENT, I APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO MY DIVISION OVER THE YEARS. AND IT'S A IT'S AN HONOR TO WORK IN THIS DIVISION AND TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING HEALTHY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. IT'S A VERY GOOD REPORT, VERY DATA HEAVY. AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MINES ARE REALLY ATTUNED TO AS THEY THINK ABOUT ALL THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO, THAT WE HAVE TO DIVVY UP COUNCIL MEMBERS. DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BENEFIT THE WHOLE? COUNCIL? FREEMAN. YOU TALKED ABOUT DIFFICULTIES AT THE ICE RINK, AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME AT THE ICE RINK WITH MY GRANDKIDS, AND I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS ADVERTISE HERE. BUT WE'VE ONLY GOT TWO PEOPLE ADVERTISING ON THE BOARDS IN THE WHOLE RINK, AND YOU GO TO THE MOUNTAIN AMERICA CENTER, AND THE PLACE IS COVERED IN ADVERTISEMENTS, AND I GO TO I FOLLOW MY GRANDSON OVER TO, OVER TO HALEY OR OR OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY PLAY HOCKEY OR EVEN PINEDALE AND THEY AND THEY, THEY, THEY GET A LOT MORE ADVERTISING THAN WE DO. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE COULD RAISE SOME, SOME REVENUE BY SELLING ADVERTISING ON THE BOARDS AND INSIDE THE RINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? I THINK FIRST, WE PROBABLY NEED TO REVISIT THE PRICE POINTS THAT WE HAVE SET UP WHEN WE SET UP, YOU KNOW, OUR CURRENT SPONSORSHIP RATES. AND I THINK THE OTHER THING IS, NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL TIME STAFF MEMBER OVER THERE, WE CAN BE MORE AGGRESSIVE OF GOING OUT AND TRYING TO RECRUIT SOME OF THOSE. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WE NEED A REVISION IN OUR IN OUR PRICE POINT. THAT'S PROVEN OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW THAT WE'VE HAD IT, THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING THE INTEREST THAT PROBABLY WOULD WARRANT IT. THAT TELLS ME WE'RE WE'RE PRICED TOO HIGH. OKAY. THE OTHER THING THAT THAT WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IS AS THE CITY STARTED LOOKING AT OUR SPONSORSHIP AND ADVERTISING POLICIES, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S EXPECTED AND ALLOWED FOR US. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT WE LOOK AT IS ON BILLBOARDS OR ON BANNERS AND SIGNAGE, IT IT CAN ONLY BE PLACED ON THE ON LIKE OUTFIELD FENCES TOWARDS THE PLAYING AREA. AND SO IT CANNOT BE PLACED ON THE OUTSIDE. SO THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE RINK. BUT IT IS THINGS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT AS FAR AS HOW DO WE BEST SELL THAT TO A, TO AN ORGANIZATION, TO A COMPANY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT ON MAYBE PRIME LOCATION, WE'RE GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE FACING INWARD. AND SO WE HAVE STRUGGLED WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT. AND I THINK OUR PRICE POINT, EXACTLY AS CHRIS HAS SAID, IS, HAS PROBABLY HINDERED US A BIT ON THAT. SO WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT LEERY TO JUMP TO, TO REALLY JUMP ONTO THAT BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE SIDE, SIDE, SIDE CODE STUFF THAT WE HAVE JUST NOT WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH FULLY. BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. 
          WELL, I HAVE ONE MORE. YEAH. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT LIKE DRIVE BY SUNNYSIDE PARK OR BY COMMUNITY PARK AFTER DARK. NOBODY THERE. AND THE LIGHTS ARE ON AT THE TENNIS COURTS OR AT THE BALLPARK. RIGHT. IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD SAY, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE PAYING FOR ELECTRICITY, RIGHT? SO THE TENNIS COURTS, THOSE ARE THOSE ONES ARE ON A PUSH BUTTON TIMER. SO THEY SHOULD ONLY BE ON FOR, YOU KNOW, A SEGMENT OF, I THINK 25 OR 30 MINUTES AFTER YOU ENGAGE THE BUTTON. OKAY. SO IF THOSE ONES ARE STAYING ON THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, THEN WE'RE NOT. IT'S NOT I MEAN, I JUST DRIVE BY AND I SEE THEM ON AND THERE'S NOBODY THERE. YEAH, THE BASEBALL AND SOFTBALL FIELDS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON WITH INTERNAL MANAGEMENT OF, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE WE KNOW OF THOSE THINGS. BUT THE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVE THAT WE, WE INSTALLED IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT SUPPOSEDLY ALLOWS US, IT'S CALLED OUTDOOR LINK, WHERE WE CAN CONTROL THE ONES IN OFFICE WITH A COMPUTER PROGRAM AS WELL, AND NOT HAVE TO MANUALLY TURN THEM ON AND OFF. SO WE'VE INSTALLED THAT ON ONE FIELD, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW THAT INTERACTS. AND BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT TO THE OTHER ONES. IF IT IF IT WORKS AS WELL AS THEY CLAIM IT DOES. 
          CHRIS I CAN THERE IS A SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT I KNOW OF THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE USER GROUPS PAYING FOR THE LIGHTS IF THEY WANT TO, AND SO THAT NOT ONLY THEY CAN TURN THEM ON LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THEY THEIR CREDIT CARD THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM. SO THAT'S, THAT'S I CAN 
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YEARS AGO WHEN I WENT TO SCHOOL IN MOSCOW, YOU USED TO HAVE TO PUT QUARTERS IN TO GET THE LIGHTS ON THE TENNIS COURTS. YEAH. AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. I KNOW RONNIE WOULD ALWAYS TELL THE STORIES OF THOSE GETTING VANDALIZED BY PEOPLE BREAKING IN TO GET THE QUARTER QUARTERS. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. BUT NOW YOU CAN DO IT WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD. YOU CAN HAVE IT, YOU KNOW. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED? WE ARE A LITTLE OVER TIME. IT'S NOT THIS GROUP'S FAULT, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MOVE ON IF WE CAN. THIS WAS GREAT. THE PRESENTATION. IS IT ALREADY NOW IN THE COUNCIL DRIVE OR WILL IT BE? I CAN PUT IT THERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I THINK THAT SOME OF THAT DATA IS JUST ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS IN TERMS OF HOW VALUABLE IT IS. COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU THINK OF ANY OTHER DATA, QUESTIONS OR POINTS OF DATA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO DEVELOP, I THINK THEY WOULD WELCOME YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT OTHER KINDS OF INFORMATION YOU'RE CRAVING, BUT VERY, VERY WELL DONE. CAN I JUST SHARE ONE MORE DATA THAT I FORGOT TO SHARE THAT I JUST THINK IT'S COOL. SO THE NATIONAL LIBRARY OF MEDICINE FOUND THAT KIDS AGES 1 TO 4 REDUCE THEIR LIKELIHOOD OR THEIR RISK OF DROWNING IF THEY'RE IN FORMAL SWIM LESSONS. AND LAST YEAR, THE AQUATIC CENTER HAD 602 PARTICIPANTS IN THAT AGE RANGE. SO HERE IN EASTERN IDAHO, WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF WATERWAYS, CANALS, RIVERS, LAKES, WE HAD 602 KIDS THAT REDUCED THE CHANCE OF THEM DROWNING BY 88%. THAT'S A VERY GOOD MESSAGE POINT THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER PUTTING ON A BILLBOARD OR OUT IN SOME, IN SOME EDUCATIONAL WAY THIS SPRING. REALLY GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU COUNCIL. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE AN HOUR'S WORTH OF WORK TO DO, AND WE HAVE 40 MINUTES TO DO IT IN. AND WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A BREAK. AND IF I WERE TO SAY THAT WE COULD HAVE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, CAN WE GET TO WORK AT 35 OR 25 AFTER? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 26 OKAY. THERE WE GO. COUNCIL. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, DO WE? HAVE YOU STILL WITH US? ALL RIGHT. MAYBE. MAYBE RIGHT NOW WE'RE HAVING THOSE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER. APOLOGIES TO ANYBODY WHO IS LIVE STREAMING. IF WE'RE IF YOU'RE HAVING DIFFICULTIES BEING WITH US, BUT WE HAVE OUR QUORUM. AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE. HOPEFULLY THE RECORDING WILL PICK UP WELL ENOUGH. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS 
          [Mayor and City Council]
TIME THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE COUNCIL RECEIVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE MARCH 4TH, 2025 MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL LAND USE PLANNING ACT. ARE THERE WE GO? HE ADDED THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FREEMAN. BEFORE I ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL ON THAT VOTE, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT IN ADDITION TO THOSE MINUTES, YOU ALSO HAVE MINUTES FOR A GREAT MANY OTHER MEETINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST MONTH FROM OTHER BOARDS AND COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS WITH THAT CITY CLERK. WILL YOU CALL THE ROLL? DINGMAN? YES, YES. I'M SORRY, I WAS CHEWING, COULDN'T HEAR. FRANCIS. HI. FREEMAN. YES. LARSON. YES. BRADSHAW. AND BURTENSHAW IS STILL DISCONNECTED FROM HER REMOTE CONNECTION, SO I'LL WORK WITH HER ON THAT. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. MOTION CARRIES. VERY GOOD. COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE'LL GO ON THEN TO VERY QUICKLY TALK ABOUT SOME LEGISLATIVE ISSUES. FIRST THING IS THAT I'VE ATTACHED A COPY OF SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 107. THIS HAD PASSED THROUGH THE SENATE HANDILY, EASILY. AND THEN IT WAS SENT TO THE STATE, THE LOCAL AFFAIRS LOCAL. WHAT'S IT CALLED? LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE. AND IT HAS NOT YET BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD. APPARENTLY THE CHAIR, WHO IS A REPRESENTATIVE, BARBARA EHART, HAD SOME CONCERNS. AND AIC SAYS THAT THREE TIMES THEY SOUGHT TO APPEASE WHATEVER HER CONCERNS WERE AND WATERED DOWN THE RESOLUTION, AND IT HASN'T YET BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT OUT OF THAT COMMITTEE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD PASS. IT'S A STATEMENT THAT DOES DOES NOT CHANGE LAW. IT'S A STATEMENT ABOUT CITIES AND THE GOOD THEY DO. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON WHAT THE RESOLUTION IS ABOUT, AND PERHAPS REACH OUT TO THAT CHAIRMAN AND LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE NEED FOR THIS TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY AND NOT DIE IN COMMITTEE. IT JUST IT'S REMARKABLE THAT A FORMER LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL WOULD BURY THIS. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO LET'S SEE IF WE CAN MAKE A 
          [02:20:04]
CONCERTED EFFORT FROM THE HOME TEAM AND PUSH THAT OUT. DAYCARE LICENSING HOUSE BILL 243, WHICH A.I.C VIGOROUSLY OPPOSED AND WHICH WE MADE A VERY STRONG EFFORT AS A CITY TO OPPOSE. I THINK THERE ARE EIGHT CITIES IN IDAHO THAT HAVE LOCAL DAYCARE, LICENSING LAWS AND ORDINANCES AND PRACTICES, BUT IT DID PASS BOTH CHAMBERS. IT'S, I BELIEVE, IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE. THE GOVERNOR HAS NO INTENT TO VETO THIS. HOWEVER, THERE IS ANOTHER BILL THAT'S COMING FORWARD. SO WE'LL SEE IF THAT ONE ALSO PASSES AND WHAT HAPPENS. SO WE'RE WATCHING. IS WATCHING OTHER BILLS GO BACK TO RATIOS. IS THAT WHAT THEY DID. AMEND 243 TO PUT THE RATIOS BACK IN. BUT UNFORTUNATELY THAT WASN'T THE ONLY THING THAT 243 DID. 243 HAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT IT WIPED OUT, INCLUDING RATIOS. THEY PUT THE RATIOS BACK IN, BUT THERE ARE STILL MANY THINGS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE THERE AND PROTECTIONS THAT AREN'T THERE. BUT OTHER BILLS. IF IT PASSES, THEN WHAT HAPPENS? I DON'T KNOW, AND I'VE YET TO LEARN. SO WE'LL SEE. IT'S USUALLY IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE. THEY GET TOGETHER AND DO A MAYBE. YEAH. YEAH THESE ARE WELL PASSED BILLS. YEAH. SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. ACT PROTECTION. THIS THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE PROTECTION ZONE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR. AND I'M STILL HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS ONE. BUT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT US. 1133. S. 1164 BASICALLY SETS A TEN DAY SHOT CLOCK FOR CITIES TO GET THEIR BUILDING PERMITS REVIEWED FOR COMPLETENESS AND WHATEVER. AND I THINK THAT WE SEEK TO DO THAT WITHIN 24 HOURS TO REVIEW HOURS FOR COMPLETENESS. OR AT LEAST THAT'S OUR ASPIRATION. I THINK THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE ABILITY TO COMPLY AS IT IS THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT STATE GOVERNMENT TELLING CITY GOVERNMENT WHAT TO DO IN VERY, VERY SPECIFIC WAY, MANNER. I SUPPOSE THIS IS THIS ONE SHORT TERM RENTAL REFORMS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD SHORT TERM RENTAL LAW ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO. AND EVERY YEAR YOU GET SOME NEWLY ELECTED LEGISLATOR WANTING TO COME IN AND REFORM THE WHOLE THING BASED ON A COMPLAINT OR TWO. AND I KIND OF WISH THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU DID YOUR HOMEWORK ON SHORT TERM RENTALS BEFORE YOU PROPOSE THINGS. BUT THIS ONE WE'RE HOPING TO THAT IT WON'T PASS DOMESTIC WELLS. THIS WAS PASSED AND IT'S ON TO THE GOVERNOR I THINK FOR SIGNATURE. THIS PUTS RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT KIND OF. OH THE HARDWARE OR THE PIPES OR WHATEVER THAT ARE PUT INTO A SMALL SYSTEM THAT'S PUT OUT IN THE COUNTY WHERE THEY RELY ON DOMESTIC RIGHTS TO SUPPLY THAT WATER. AT SOME POINT THEY DO BECOME ANNEXED OR ANNEX, AND THIS WOULD PUT SOME PERMITS THERE. HOPEFULLY. WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL SLOW DOWN THE RAPID PACE OF URBANIZATION IN COUNTY AREAS. SO IT'S WONDERFUL THAT IT PASSED WILDFIRE MITIGATION. THIS IS ONE THAT WE HEARD ABOUT EARLY ON FROM WILLARD, THAT IT WAS IT HAD DIED. AND THEN SOMEONE MADE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER. THAT MOTION PASSED AND IT WAS PUT BACK ON THE 14TH OF THE 14TH READING, I THINK. 14TH ORDER. YEAH. 14TH ORDER. SO THAT MEANS, I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE HOUSE FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF CONSIDERATION, BASED ON PERHAPS SOME AMENDMENTS THAT IT WAS IT WAS SENT BACK FOR AMENDING. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT WHAT COMES FORWARD. WE'LL INDICATED THAT A LOT OF WHAT WAS AMENDED LOOKED GOOD TO HIM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HE THOUGHT IT MIGHT GO BACK AND PASSED, BUT WITH ANY LUCK IT WILL, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A PRESUMPTION OF GUILT. WHETHER A UTILITY IS OR NOT GUILTY, BUT CULPABILITY IN TERMS OF HAVING TO PAY FOR WILDFIRE, EVEN IF THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY COULD THINK OF TO MITIGATE FOR FIRE. SO LET'S SEE. H 329 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE IDAHO FALLS BECAUSE WE OWN OUR OWN POWER. BUT IT IT IS CHANGING HOW FOR PROFIT ELECTRICITY ELECTRIC UTILITIES ARE TAXED. INSTEAD OF THEM PAYING PROPERTY TAX, THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED PER KILOWATT. OR IF THERE ARE GAS OR THERMAL UNIT OF SOME KIND. SO IT'S SUPPOSED IT'S INTERESTING. 
          IF YOU'RE IN A LITTLE BIT OF AN ELECTRICITY NERD, YOU MIGHT WANT TO READ THE BILL TO UNDERSTAND HOW IDAHO MAY BE MAKING A CHANGE. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT THERE IS A IT HASN'T GONE ANYWHERE JUST YET, BUT IT WAS ONLY INTRODUCED LAST LATE LAST WEEK. AND THAT'S HOUSE BILL 388. THIS ONE ALLOWS COUNTIES TO IMPOSE A LOCAL OPTION TAX, AND THE FORM OF THE LOCAL OPTION TAX WOULD BE, I THINK, AT 3% TRANSIENT ROOM TAX. THAT'S A BED TAX. THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF 
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TAX THAT FUELS THE AUDITORIUM DISTRICT. AND THE COUNTIES WOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR FIRE AND AMBULANCE SERVICE. AND I ADMITTED I LOOKED AT THIS ONE. I KIND OF GOT A LITTLE FIRED UP BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEXUS BETWEEN THE PAYERS, WHICH ARE TOURISTS, AND THE FEE THAT THEY'RE PAYING TO STAY IN A HOTEL ROOM, AND THE SERVICES THAT COUNTY RESIDENTS WOULD BE RECEIVING. CITY RESIDENTS RECEIVE NOTHING. WHERE ARE THE HOTELS IN CITIES? WHY ARE COUNTIES BEING GIVEN THIS KIND OF. PERMISSION OR AUTHORITY TO RECOUP ON FIRE AND AMBULANCE? CITIES PROVIDE FIRE AND AMBULANCE. AND WE'RE NOT GETTING A PIECE OF THIS ACTION. PLUS, THE ONLY WAY THAT A TOURIST WOULD NEED THIS IS IF THEY WENT OUT TO THE THEY LEFT THE HOTEL, GOT A RIDE OUT INTO THE COUNTY, STARTED A FIRE, OR HAD A HEART ATTACK, THEN THEY MIGHT BENEFIT FROM WHAT THEY'RE PAYING, BUT THERE'S NO NEXUS THAT MAKES ANY SENSE. AND SO I THINK IT'S JUST BAD, BAD PROPOSAL. THANKFULLY, SOME OTHERS AGREED WITH THAT ONE. SO ANYWAY, SO WE'RE NOT DONE. CRAZY THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND THEY'RE HAVING A REAL HARD TIME GETTING OUT, GETTING BILL SORRY BUDGET BILLS OUT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE STICKING POINT THIS YEAR IS JUST GETTING THOSE OUT OF COMMITTEE AND PASSED. RIGHT NOW THE LIBRARY IS WAITING ON A BILL THAT WILL JUST BE A PASS THROUGH FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO RECOUP SOME FEDERAL GRANT MONEY FOR THE LIBRARY TO BUY LAPTOPS AT IDAHO FALLS. AND FOR SOME REASON, IT'S NOT COMING OUT. SO IF YOU HAPPEN TO RUN INTO A SENATOR, COOK, SENATOR, OR REPRESENTATIVE CORMAN, REPRESENTATIVE FURNACE, THEY'RE ALL FROM OUR NECK OF THE WOODS AND THEY'RE ALL ON JOPEK. TELL THEM TO GET THOSE BILLS OUT THERE. YES. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW LISA IS BACK ON. WONDERFUL IF YOU NEED HER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THAT'S IT FOR LEGISLATIVE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE QUICK UPDATE THERE. AS FAR AS ANNOUNCEMENTS GO, YOU TURN THAT PAGE OVER. AIC IS OPENING UP THEIR CONFERENCE IN JUNE TO OUTSIDE PROPOSALS. SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER THOUGHT OF A WORKSHOP YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, OR MAYBE ONE THAT YOU'D EVEN LIKE TO BE A PART OF TEACHING, BECAUSE MANY OF YOU HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF EXPERIENCE, NOW'S THE TIME TO PITCH THOSE, AND YOU CAN GO GET YOUR AIC NEWSLETTER, OR GO TO THE AIC WEB PAGE AND PITCH SOMETHING THERE. ROOM BLOCKS ARE STARTING TO GO, AND SO CHECK WITH CART, NOT CHECK, BUT LET CARLA KNOW ASAP IF YOU'RE PLANNING TO GO SO THAT SHE CAN BOOK SOME ROOMS FOR YOU AT THE NEGOTIATED RATES. AND THEN THE AIC CITY ACHIEVEMENT AWARD SUBMISSIONS THEY JUST OPENED UP. SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANY DIRECTORS THAT HAVE SOME REALLY COOL WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE THIS YEAR, AND, YOU KNOW, FOR US THAT'S EVERY YEAR, LET'S BE SURE TO GET SOME SUBMISSIONS AND JUST GIVE A NUDGE TO THE DIRECTOR OF YOUR CHOICE TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE PROGRAM THAT YOU WANT THEM TO PITCH. YEAH. AND CATHERINE, ERIC AND I ARE GOING TO BRAINSTORM APRIL 2ND. I THINK IT IS TO KIND OF BRAINSTORM PROJECTS. IF YOU'VE GOT IDEAS, FEEL FREE TO SEND THEM OUR WAY AS WELL. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. AND SO WITH THAT, THOSE ARE JUST SOME QUICK THINGS I AM I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE SORRY, THE WEST WASTE MANAGEMENT SYMPOSIUM, WHICH HAPPENS ANNUALLY. AND THAT IS WHERE DOE FOLKS AND ALL OF THE BASICALLY THE CONTRACTING GROUPS THAT DEAL WITH THE DISPOSAL OF RADIO RADIOACTIVE WASTE, RAD WASTE, THEY CALL IT, WHERE THEY COME TOGETHER. AND THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD PANELS. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE CONVERSATION THERE, THE CR HADN'T PASSED YET. RIGHT. WE LEARNED ABOUT THAT ON THURSDAY NIGHT OR FRIDAY. NO, FRIDAY AFTERNOON. NOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN IT PASSED. ANYHOW, IT PASSED ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND THE CONFERENCE ENDS ON THURSDAY, BUT THERE WAS AN AWFUL LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT DOGE AND ABOUT CUTS AND ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT BRING. AND ESSENTIALLY THE THEME THAT I HEARD OVER AND OVER, NO MATTER WHAT ROOM I WAS IN OR WHAT GROUPING OF PROFESSIONALS I WAS WITH, IS THAT, EXCUSE ME, IS THAT WE ARE IN FOR A MUCH A VERY DIFFERENT AND LEANER LOOKING GOVERNMENT. THE SPENDING THAT WE'VE SEEN LATELY IS SOMETHING THAT WAS A BONUS, AND WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE ANYTHING LIKE IT. AND IN FACT, WE CAN MAYBE LOOK FORWARD TO REDUCED SERVICE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. AND WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT NOAA, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS THEIR STAFF AT HALF HERE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FEWER PEOPLE WHO CAN OFFER WEATHER FORECASTS. AND THAT'S JUST A SMALL PIECE. SO WE'LL SEE LOTS OF CHANGES 
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THAT WAY. WITH THAT I'M GOING TO WE'LL GO AROUND THE TABLE AND COUNCILOR BURTENSHAW, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST WHILE WE HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU CONNECTED? YEAH. I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. 
          MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILOR. I DON'T THINK I DID. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR FRIEDEN, I DO HAVE SOME. OKAY. I GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE I PUT IT. I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY OF STATION SIX FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S GROUNDBREAKING ON APRIL 2ND AT 10 A.M. OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK IT SHOULD BE ON THERE, BUT IT'S NOT THERE NOW. IT IS. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILOR FREEMAN. FRANCIS. FRANCIS. OH, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. REMEMBER, COUNCILOR RADFORD, SORRY, I JUMPED OVER. JUST ONE THING. HOW? OH, YES. YEAH. I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M GOING TO FORGET HIS LAST NAME. RACK. RACK? NO, THAT'S THE CURRENT. BUT SO ON OUR LIBRARY BOARD, HOW IS LEAVING SERVICE AFTER. YEAH. HOW PETERSON. AFTER PROBABLY 20 YEARS OR MORE. SO. SO JUST THANK YOU TO HIM AND ALL THE SERVICE OF THE LIBRARY BOARD AND WHAT THEY DO. SO AT THAT MEETING RECENTLY AND THEN MAY NOON. MAY WHEN NEWBERG. NEWBERG IS THEY WORKED OUT AN AGREEMENT FOR A GREAT USE OF THOSE DOLLARS AROUND BOOKS THAT PROMOTE DECODING, READING BY DECODING. 
          YEAH. FOR PARENTS AND CHILDREN. YEAH. SO SOME GOOD THINGS FROM THE LIBRARY. OTHERWISE WE MUNICIPAL. SORRY DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THERE'S PLENTY GOING ON THERE, BUT NOTHING REALLY TO REPORT THIS. THANK YOU. TWO ITEMS FROM PUBLIC WORKS. THE FIRST IS THAT THEY HAVE SOME PRIOR COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE GOING TO DO SOME STREET WORK BASED ON. IMPACT FEES. SINCE THOSE AREN'T AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO FULFILL THOSE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS ANYWAY, SO THEY'RE GOING TO FUND IT INTERNALLY WITH THE EXPECTATION OF BEING PAID BACK. IF AND WHEN. IMPACT FEES BECOME AVAILABLE. SECOND ITEM ON THOSE THAT CASH BALANCE REPORT WE GET FROM FROM FINANCE THAT SHOWED VARIOUS FUNDS IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. AND IT SHOWS YOU THAT SAME MONTH FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. THERE'S A COUPLE ON THERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT HAVE SHOWN SOME REAL GROWTH. 
          MOST OF THAT IS THINGS LIKE MURPH MURPHY'S IN THERE. ALSO OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE BUILDING UP CASH TO FUND. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FEEL FREE TO GET A HOLD OF DIRECTOR FREDERICKSON. HE'LL GIVE YOU DETAILS ON THAT INFORMATION. ANYTHING I MISSED? YEAH, OKAY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE AWARE OF WHICH FUNDS SHOULD BE GROWING AND. AND KIND OF LIKE AN INCHWORM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BUILDS UNTIL IT STRETCHES. AND SO WE DO SOMETHING BIG AND THEN IT BUILDS AGAIN. AND THAT IS NOT A SIGN THAT WE'RE HOARDING MONEY AND BUILD, YOU KNOW, BILKING THE TAXPAYERS OR THE RATEPAYERS. IT'S A SIGN THAT WE'RE MANAGING PROPERLY. SO ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY WANTS TO THROW OUT? ANY CONCERNS. ALL RIGHT THEN LET'S JUMP INTO THE LAST PART. WE'LL INVITE MARGARET TO COME FORWARD AND WE WILL INVITE WE'VE GOT SOMETHING COMING UP ONLINE AND IT WILL BE THE HANDOUT. THE FIRST HANDOUT THAT YOU WANT TO TURN TO IS THE ONE THAT STARTS ON THE COVER PAGE. THERE'S A PORTRAIT FORMAT, HEALTHY COMMUNITY. AND SO YEAH SKIP PAST THIS PAGE PLEASE OKAY. THIS IS THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE EDITED BUT NOT THE BOOK. SO WE WANTED TO VERY QUICKLY IN LESS THAN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES, JUST REPORT TO YOU WHAT WE HAD DONE. WE BEING MARGARET, JIM, FRANCIS AND MYSELF SINCE WE HAD OUR BUDGET RETREAT IN THIS ROOM WITH ALL OF YOU, WE WENT THROUGH AND ELIMINATED THE DUPLICATIVE BULLET POINTS THAT THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THERE. WE NOTED IN OUR DISCUSSION THAT DAY THAT SOME REALLY BELONGED SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          WE ALSO HAD SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO CREATE AN EIGHTH ASPIRATION, WHICH WE HAVE DONE. SO I JUST WANT TO JUST RUN THROUGH THESE THEN. SO UNDER HEALTHY COMMUNITY, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIFTH DOWN, WE DELETED IT. THIS IS NOT A WORDSMITHING SESSION. 
          SO THIS IS THE ONE YOU WANT TO BE LOOKING AT JIM. AND YOUR STAFF. OKAY. SO JUST MAKING YOU AWARE THE ONE THAT'S CROSSED OUT IS ONE THAT WAS DELETED EITHER BECAUSE IT WAS MOVED SOMEWHERE OR BECAUSE IT WAS A DUPLICATE. THE NEXT ONE, THE NEXT PAGE, ECONOMIC VIBRANCY. NOT MUCH 
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CHANGED THERE. I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, THAT COUNCILOR FRANCIS DID GO THROUGH AND CHECK EVERY SINGLE REFERENCE, WHICH WOULD BE THE SMALL PRINT AT THE AT THE END OF EACH STATEMENT, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL ACCURATE. THE THIRD ONE, THIRD PAGE RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS. OKAY. BE THE FOURTH PAGE. I'M SURE. OKAY. THIS ONE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED THE FIRST BULLET. AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE BULLETS THAT WE KIND OF SMASHED INTO ONE BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME A LOT OF DUPLICATIVE STATEMENTS THERE. AND SO AGAIN, WHEN WE GO TO WORDSMITH, WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT THAT. BUT OR NOT ARGUE BUT BUT HAVE AN IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION. BUT WE WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. TURN THE PAGE TO GOOD GOVERNANCE. AND WE HAVE TWO HERE THAT WE AGAIN HAD THREE BULLETS AND WE COULDN'T GET THEM DOWN TO ONE. WE GOT THEM DOWN TO TWO POINTS. I TRIED TO MAKE THEM UNIQUE, UNIQUELY DIFFERENT STATEMENTS. OKAY. MOVING ON TO FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY. ALL WE DID REALLY WITH SOME OF THESE OTHERS IS JUST REORDER THEM ACCORDING TO HOW WE AS A GROUP, WE HAD SCORED THINGS AND THE ONES THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, FLOATED TO THE TOP ARE PRESENTED FIRST AND SECOND, THIRD AND SO ON. PLANNING FOR TOMORROW FEELS PRETTY GOOD. THEN LOOK AT THE VERY LAST PAGE OR SORRY, THE SEVENTH ONE SECOND TO THE LAST PAGE. NATURAL RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP. WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN US WHETHER THIS SHOULD BE CALLED RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP, NATURAL STEWARDSHIP, OR NATURAL RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP. ON OUR WEB PAGE, THE TRIANGLE IS RATHER SMALL. THREE BIG WORDS DON'T FIT SO WELL. AND SO WE WERE WONDERING WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS WERE ABOUT WHAT THAT SHOULD BE NAMED. 
          BECAUSE THIS ONE, WE THINK IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T. IT'S NOT A LOT OF WORDSMITHING. IT'S THREE WORDS OR TWO WORDS. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE LABEL THERE? I THINK RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP COVERS IT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED THE NATURAL. TWO. PEOPLE THINK THAT. 
          ANYBODY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I THINK THAT WELL, ALL I KNOW IS THAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP WAS JUST EXTREMELY VAGUE. I MEAN, RESOURCES ARE LIKE PEOPLE TO TALKING ABOUT MONEY AND ABOUT MONEY. IT'S JUST REALLY VAGUE. SO WHAT ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING. I MEAN, GIVEN THE POLITICS OF THE LAST TWO MONTHS, SOME WOULD SAY STAY AWAY FROM WORDS THAT INFLAME. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY WE OUGHT TO USE THE WORDS THAT MEAN WHAT WE WANT THEM TO MEAN. SO MAYBE WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE A LITTLE MORE WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT. YEAH. WHAT WAS THE DISAGREEMENT? SO NATURAL. WAS WHAT YOU LANDED ON OR NOT? WELL, WE PUT ALL THREE WORDS THERE, SO THREE NATURAL. WHICH IS A BETTER WAY TO DO IT. WHICH BOTH THE THREE. WELL, THE THREE WORDS FIT MARGARET IN THE TRIANGLE. WE CAN TRY. I'LL ACTUALLY JUST GO IN AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THOSE, THOSE WORK. I THINK THAT IN THE DESCRIPTION IT SORT OF TALKS ABOUT BOTH NATURAL AND MAN MADE. SO IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NATURAL AND MAN MADE, DOES, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED NATURAL THERE? I THINK THAT WAS PART OF MY WONDER. BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE IF ALL THREE WORDS FIT AND TRY THAT FOR NOW. WE COULD ALSO. SO THE THIRD MIGHT HAVE BEEN JIM FREEMAN'S SUGGESTION TO TAKE OUT NATURAL AND RESOURCE TO PUT IN ENVIRONMENTAL. SO. OKAY, I THOUGHT WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT I HAVE. YEAH. LISA I HAVE ONE THOUGHT ON THAT COULD MAYBE WE DO NATURAL PRESERVE OR PRESERVATION OR MAYBE IT'S THE STEWARDSHIP PART TOO. I DON'T KNOW, JUST A THOUGHT THAT WE COULD LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE WORDS WHICH RESPONDS TO LIKE, THE NATURAL WORLD, RIGHT? NOT NECESSARILY ENVIRONMENTAL, BUT LIKE, WHAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR RESOURCES? JUST A THOUGHT. OKAY? I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY WAYS WE CAN GO WITH THIS. IT'S HARDER THAN WE THOUGHT. SO LET ME MOVE ON TO JUST POINTING OUT THE FOURTH BULLET. ONE OF OUR CONVERSATION POINTS DURING OUR RETREAT WAS THAT WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT TALKED ABOUT THE SNAKE RIVER. SO THIS IS WHAT WE COME UP WITH. IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH IT OR DON'T HAVE AN ALLERGIC REACTION TO IT, AS IN ITS PRESENT FORM, WE CAN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE HIGHLIGHTED HIGHLIGHTING OFF AND THEN WORDSMITH IT AS WE WORK THROUGH IT LATER. I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADD. BEAUTY, I THINK SHOULD BE ONE MORE WORD SOMEWHERE, WHEREVER YOU WANT. BUT THE SOURCE OF OUR POWER, OUR, YOU KNOW, PLACE, BUT ALSO OUR BEAUTY. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT. I'M KIND OF LIKE A SENSE OF PLACE AND ATTRACTIVENESS. OR 
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JUST NATURAL BEAUTY. YEAH, SOMETHING. I JUST THINK IT'S THE ONE PIECE THAT I WAS THINKING THAT ISN'T IN THERE. EVERY OTHER, EVERY OTHER IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. JIM, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE CITY DEVELOPS EFFECTIVE BUILDING DESIGN STANDARDS AND INCORPORATE COMPREHENSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE, IF THAT REALLY BELONGS THERE. THAT. WELL, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE IT WOULD BELONG. BUT BECAUSE THIS WAS BRINGING IN WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRIC, ALL OF THESE THINGS RELATE TO THE RIVER IN SOME WAY OR RELATE TO WATER. NOT WATER, NOT THE RIVER, BUT WATER. IT FELT LIKE THAT WAS A NATURAL RESOURCE. AND WE DO HAVE OTHER PLACES WHERE WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN THERE IN OTHER WAYS. AND SO IT DIDN'T. IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE FORGETTING TO PUT THOSE SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT THAT WAS THE LINCHPIN. SO THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE ROOM TO TALK ABOUT THESE LATER. OKAY. 
          THE LAST PAGE BACK OF YOUR PACKET. THIS WAS THE SECTION THAT WAS MISSING. SO WE RIGHT NOW IT'S CALLED PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY SAFETY. AGAIN. DO WE WANT IT AS PUBLIC SAFETY OR COMMUNITY SAFETY. PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY SAFETY IS TOO LONG FOR THE TRIANGLE WE HAD. THERE ARE GOOD ARGUMENTS TO BE MADE BOTH WAYS, AND THEY SEEM LIKE THEY'RE BASICALLY A SYNONYM. THEY'RE BASICALLY IT IS INTERESTING, BUT PUBLIC AND COMMUNITY. IT'S SO INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE I AGREE. I JUST HEARD A STUDY TODAY THAT USED THESE COMMUNITY MADE PEOPLE GIVE 75% MORE THAN WHEN THEY DIDN'T, WHEN THEY JUST SAID NOT COMMUNITY. LIKE THERE'S A THERE'S A POSITIVE SENSE TO THAT WORD COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW THAT SEEMS TO HELP. I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. SO YOU WANT US TO MAKE IT COMMUNITY SAFETY? PROBABLY MY PREFERENCE, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. MARGARET, YOU HAD A THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT CONNOTE. MY WHEN I USED TO SEE THOSE WORDS. PUBLIC SAFETY TO ME IS INTRINSICALLY ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE, WHEREAS COMMUNITY SAFETY MAKES ME WONDER, IS MY COMMUNITY A SAFE PLACE TO BE? SO THAT WAS SORT OF ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS WRESTLING WITH. I THINK COMMUNITY DEFINITELY RESONATES WITH PEOPLE A LITTLE MORE, BUT AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR ASPIRATION AND SORT OF HOW IT FITS IN WITH THE REST OF THE PLAN, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANT TO KNOW? IF THAT'S A GOOD POINT? YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME COMMUNITY INCLUDE PUBLIC. DOES IT ENCOMPASS WHEN YOU USE THE TERM COMMUNITY, DOES THAT ENCOMPASS WHAT YOU DESCRIBED AS PUBLIC SAFETY? YES, I THINK SO. YEAH, I THINK SO TOO. I THINK COMMUNITY IS MORE OF AN OVERARCHING UMBRELLA, AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS A IS A MORE SPECIFIC. YEAH. I THINK BECAUSE YOU HAVE HEALTHY COMMUNITIES, YOU CAN JUST HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY. SAFETY. YEAH. OR I THINK COMMUNITY SAFETY IS GREAT. MAYBE WE'LL SEND OUT A LITTLE QUIZ. ALL RIGHT. AND WE ONLY HAVE THREE BULLETS THERE. ONE IS ON COMMUNITY POLICING. 
          ONE IS ON FIRE AND AMBULANCE TIMELINESS. THE OTHER IS ON TRAINING. AND SO IF YOU THINK OF ANY OTHERS, BUT CLEARLY WE INTERPRET BULLETS AS WELL. WELL WE CAN TALK MORE OKAY. BUT ANYWAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ALLERGIES, THESE ARE GOING TO STAY HERE UNTIL WE WORDSMITH THEM. AND AS FAR AS ADDING A LOT MORE, THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO HAPPEN IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET RETREAT. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ONE. THE NEXT HANDOUT. AND THIS ONE HAS A FRONT PAGE I DID NOT GIVE ALL OF YOU BUT YOU'LL SEE IT RIGHT. DO YOU WANT IT UP RIGHT THERE. YEP. OKAY. SO MARGARET WHY DON'T YOU KNOW JIM LEAD OFF WITH THE FIRST ONE. WE FEEL LIKE BEFORE WE CAN GO ANY FURTHER, WE NEED TO GET SOME SHARED UNDERSTANDING. IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES. WE WERE TRYING TO TALK IN FIVE YEAR TERMS THAT WE WEREN'T EXPECTING ANYTHING WE PUT DOWN TO NECESSARILY BE DONE IN ONE YEAR. 
          AND SO I WANT TO KEEP THINKING IN THAT SAME DIRECTION UNLESS I'M OFF BASE. SO IT HELPS DIRECT US TO THE 2526 BUDGET. BUT THE THINGS WE PUT DOWN AS PRIORITIES ARE NOT ALL MEANT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE DONE THIS YEAR. THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR. IT'S LIKE PARTICULARLY AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MOVES IN THE DIRECTION TOWARDS COMMUNITY POLICING, IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GET IT ALL DONE THE WAY THEY WANT TO. I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH THAT. AS LONG AS YOU DON'T START USING THE ARGUMENT THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING IN ONE YEAR EITHER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NO, NO, NO. RIGHT, EXACTLY. BUT IT'S JUST THINKING, LIKE, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO THINK THAT EACH OF THESE THINGS HAS TO BE DONE EITHER THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, IT'S LIKE, THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING STRATEGICALLY FOR FIVE YEARS. SURE. THE REC CENTER, I MEAN, THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF CONSERVATION AND WATERFRONT AND LAND, WATER CONSERVATION, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR US, BUT WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO TAKE A NUMBER OF YEARS, RIGHT. 
          OR WAS THERE, I MEAN, OUR PRIORITIES WITH THE POLICE OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE LONG TERM, LIKE THE TRAINING CENTER IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN ONE YEAR. YEAH. AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING 
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THAT CAME UP WITH FIRE, AS IF YOU REMEMBER HIS PRESENTATION. THEY HAD FIVE YEARS WORTH OF AND THERE WERE A LOT OF DOLLARS IN THERE THAT HAD TO DO WITH COMMUNITY POLICING AND HIRING ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS AND PATROL OFFICERS. AND WHEN WE TALK TO THE CHIEF ABOUT THAT, I ASK HIM TO WHERE HE HAS THAT REALLY IDENTIFIED, AT LEAST THAT PART OF IT. TO HAVE THAT ROLLING FIVE YEAR, IS THERE ANY COMMENT ON THAT? WE GAVE THEM A WORKSHEET LAST YEAR OR A TEMPLATE FOR PREPARING THOSE REPORTS. AND WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT WHILE IT WAS USED FOR THE REPORTS, HOW IT WHERE IT WENT AFTER THAT VARIES. THERE WAS NO CENTRAL COLLECTION OF THOSE. NO PLACE WHERE ANY OF US CAN TURN TO FIND ALL OF THOSE FIVE YEAR PROJECTIONS. AND THAT'S NOT MALICIOUS. AND IT WASN'T STUPID. IT WAS JUST WE WERE INVENTING A NEW PROCESS LAST YEAR, AND ONCE WE GOT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, IT WAS LIKE, OH, GOOD, THOSE PRESENTATIONS WORKED. AND THEN WE THINK ABOUT IT. AND SO HERE WE ARE. NOW YOU'RE REMEMBERING, YOU KNOW, SOME DETAIL THAT WAS IMPRESSIVE TO YOU. I KNOW THAT PAM HAD SAVED HERS AND SHARED THEM WITH HER LIAISONS. SO THERE THEY ARE OUT THERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY COLLECTED. SO THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO GIVE SOME HEED TO GOING FORWARD IS HOW DO WE KEEP THESE FIVE YEAR? OVERVIEWS FOR EACH OF THESE PRIORITIES ALIVE, AND HOW DO WE WANT TO VIEW THEM? BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO POINT OUT TO YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT BASICALLY EVERYONE'S UNDERSTANDING FROM LAST YEAR? YEAH. YEAH. SO OKAY. AND SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO GIVING EVERYBODY FIVE YEARS THIS YEAR AS WELL, OR DO YOU WANT TO SOMEHOW SAY, NO, WE ONLY WANT THREE YEARS WORTH OF MONEY. I THINK IT'S FIVE YEARS OR MORE LIKE THE RIGHT SIDE. YEAH. OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE NEXT THING, JUST AN OBSERVATION THAT I SHOULD HAVE POINTED OUT WHEN WE HAD THE RETREAT AND I DIDN'T BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK OF IT UNTIL WE WERE PUTTING THIS STUFF TOGETHER, WHICH IS LAST YEAR, WE MET FOR THE 2024 RETREAT IN FEBRUARY TO BRAINSTORM PRIORITIES, WHICH WE DID VERY EFFECTIVELY. IT WAS VERY SATISFYING, WASN'T IT? AND THE DIRECTORS WERE THEN GIVEN THE PRIORITIES AND THEY WENT TO WORK ON THEM. THEY PUT THOSE PRIORITIES INTO THE BUDGET. THE BUDGET THEN STARTED ON OCTOBER 1ST. WE HAVEN'T EVEN HIT THE END OF THE SECOND QUARTER YET. AND YET WE'RE EVALUATING WHERE ARE THEY ON THESE PRIORITIES? WELL, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN HAD HALF A YEAR YET TO GET ROLLING ON THEM. AND SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD WITHHOLD SOME OF OUR JUDGMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30TH ON, ON THOSE. BUT DO YOU SEE HOW OUR CALENDAR YEAR AND OUR FISCAL YEAR AND OUR NEW PROCESS ARE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUST A LITTLE OFF? THEY'RE NOT ALL PERFECTLY ALIGNED. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SORT OF BE, I THINK, HAVE SOME GRACE WHEN WE EVALUATE. SO JUST SOMETHING TO POINT OUT, COUNCILOR FRANCE. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULDN'T USE THIS LIST OF PRIORITIES AND ASPIRATIONS AS CRITICISMS OF DEPARTMENTS. IT'S DIRECTION THAT COUNTS FOR ME. ANYWAY. THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO HEAD, AND IT ISN'T LIKE YOU DIDN'T GET THERE IN THREE MONTHS. YOU KNOW IT. THIS IS WE'RE STILL WHERE WE WANT TO GO. EYE ON THE BALL, KIND OF THING. OKAY, SECOND BIG QUESTION. THE SECOND BIG QUESTION. AS WE KIND OF REVIEW THIS DOCUMENT, THIS IS REALLY OUR CROSSWALK BETWEEN THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT GOALS THAT WE OR PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD OUTLINED LAST YEAR WITH ASPIRATIONS. AND AS WE WERE REVIEWING THOSE PRIORITIES, COUNCIL SORT OF MARKED SEVERAL OF THEM AS ONGOING. AND I THINK THAT AT THIS POINT, AS WE WALK THROUGH THIS AND TRY AND FINALIZE THE PRIORITIES FOR THE 2526 YEAR, THERE MAY BE SOME DISCUSSION AROUND WHEN DOES ONGOING JUST BECOME EMBEDDED IN THE WORK OF THE DAY? ONE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAD LISTED AS ONGOING HAD TO DO WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS. I THINK MOST OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF SORT OF WHAT THOSE CLIENTS NEED TO LOOK LIKE, SHOULD LOOK LIKE. WE'VE DEFINITELY HAD SOME FEEDBACK AROUND THE IMPACT FEE STUDY AND WHAT THOSE STUDIES SHOULD LOOK LIKE. PAM'S BEEN DOING SOME WORK WITH DEPARTMENTS AND DIRECTOR ALEXANDER. SO AGAIN, DOES THAT NEED TO BE A PRIORITY OR DO WE FEEL THAT THAT'S EMBEDDED IN THE WORK OF THE DAY? IT'S PART OF OUR OUR OUR FOCUS. SO THAT WOULD JUST BE SOMETHING I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT AS WE KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS, THIS DOCUMENT. AND IT MIGHT BE A WAY TO KIND OF STREAMLINE AND PERHAPS CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE, THE PRIORITIES. SO DO WE PASS THAT ON TO THE DIRECTORS. AND THEN IT IT'S INCUMBENT ON THEM, ON THEM OR US AT ANY POINT IN TIME TO SAY, WELL, MAYBE THIS IS NOW A PERMANENT PART OF THE BUDGET. AND, AND ABOUT THEIR PROCESS AND 
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HOW WE DO BUSINESS. THERE'S THE PERMANENT PART OF THE BUDGET OR THERE IS THE. BUT REMEMBER HOW I JUST SORT OF CRITICIZED A, A PROPOSED PIECE OF LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT TOLD CITIES TO DO WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING? ONE OF OUR PIECES FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH IS PUBLIC WORKS, WAS, YOU KNOW, BRIDGES AND ROADS. WELL, WE HAD SOME BRIDGE CONCERNS, DIDN'T WE, ABOUT PAN-KOREAN AND ABOUT HIP ROAD AND, AND SO IT MADE SENSE THAT BRIDGES WERE ON OUR MINDS. BUT DO WE NEED TO KEEP BRIDGES AS A PRIORITY BECAUSE THE CITY HAS OTHER BRIDGES THAT DIRECTOR FREDERICKSON IS GOING TO FOCUS ON. BUT DO WE NEED TO BE SAYING, DON'T FORGET TO DO YOUR BRIDGES, CHRIS. RIGHT. YEAH. IT SEEMS A LITTLE LIKE WHEN EVERYTHING'S A PRIORITY, NOTHING'S A PRIORITY. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 18 THAT EMERGED FROM OUR DISCUSSION. AND I'M I'M PERSONALLY CONCERNED ABOUT TWO THINGS. ONE, OVERWHELMING FOLKS, DIRECTORS AS THEY START TO TRY TO PLAN AND SPLIT OUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AMONGST THAT MANY PRIORITIES. AND SECONDLY, JUST THE SORT OF THE FEELING OF NOT STAYING THE 30 ZERO ZERO ZERO FOOT, BUT GETTING DOWN INTO INTO THE WEEDS WITH DIRECTORS WHEN THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE PAID TO HELP US TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, NOT FOR US TO DICTATE TO US. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET OUR BALANCE RIGHT AS WE TRY TO THINK ABOUT IT FROM THE COUNCIL. PRIORITY, PERSPECTIVE, DIRECTION. SOME OF THESE, I WOULD SAY INSTEAD OF WORK OF THE DAY, I'D SAY IMPLEMENT IT SLASH MAINTAIN BECAUSE WE STILL WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED. WE DID THAT WITH SOME OF THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES, FINANCIAL STUFF. WE CAN SAY THAT'S IMPLEMENTED. GIFT TO A POINT WAS IMPLEMENTED AT LEAST STABLE FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO. AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN GIFT. IT STILL REMAINS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CITY SERVICES FROM COUNCIL'S POINT OF VIEW. SO THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF LIKE IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED BETTER THAN WORK OF THE DAY AS A AS A LABEL FOR THOSE THAT WE COULD SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT WE'RE ON OUR WE'VE GOT THAT GOING AND COUNCIL WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE MAINTAINED AND NOT DROPPED. I LIKEN IT TO PUTTING IT ON A BACK BURNER. RIGHT. YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT OFF THE STOVE, YOU'RE JUST MOVING IT BACK AND NOT HAVING IT BE YOUR FIRST PRIORITY. RIGHT. YOU PUT IT ON SIMMER NOW. YEAH. 
          KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO WE'VE TAKEN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HELD ON THAT RETREAT DAY AND TUCKED THEM INTO ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS FROM OUR EIGHT ASPIRATIONS. AND SO YOU'LL SEE, THE MAIN ASPIRATION IS ONLY LISTED BY TITLE HEALTHY COMMUNITY. IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S BLUE AND IT CORRESPONDS WITH THE BLUE RIGHT HERE IN THIS OTHER HANDOUT. BUT THE LIGHT BLUE AREAS, THOSE ARE BULLET POINTS WITHIN THAT ASPIRATION. 
          SO YOU SEE THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT FIT UNDER HEALTHY COMMUNITY THERE. THERE'S AT LEAST ONE ECONOMIC VIBRANCY. THAT ASPIRATION HAD NO PRIORITIES EMERGED FROM IT. AND THEN SOME ONLY HAD ONE OR WHATEVER. SO LET'S JUST VERY QUICKLY GO THROUGH THEM. AND MARGARET, I'LL LET YOU SORT OF BEGIN THE WALKING THROUGH. SURE. SO THE ONE OF THE 24 PRIORITIES WAS THE IDEA OF EXPEDITED PERMITTING AND REVIEW PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS. CDS AND A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS WORK. WHEN COUNCIL REVIEWED THIS AT THE RETREAT, THE THOUGHT WAS THAT IT NEEDED TO BE ONGOING, BUT THERE NEEDED TO BE AN EMPHASIS ON IT. 
          SO I THINK THAT I'M NOT SURE I WOULD THINK THAT THIS ONE IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED. I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PLANS IN PLACE, BUT WE STILL NEED TO KIND OF TEST OUR PROCESSES, LOOK AT METRICS. CAN THEY SCALE UP AS THE AS THE CONSTRUCTION SEASON GETS BUSY. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS ONGOING IS THE RIGHT NOTE ON ON THAT ONE. THE SECOND ONE, THE IMPROVE OPTIONS FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THIS ONE WE ALWAYS WRESTLED WITH A LITTLE BIT AS FAR AS WHAT IS IN THE CITY'S PURVIEW AND WHAT IS REALLY UP TO THE COMMUNITY AND PRIVATE ENTERPRISE. SO AS WE WERE WORKING THROUGH THESE, WE DID SUGGEST SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT SEEMED MORE ACTIONABLE FOR OUR CDS STAFF, AS WELL AS PERHAPS OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND THEN AGAIN, THIS ONE, I THINK THAT THE NOTE WOULD BE THAT THIS WOULD BE ON ONGOING WITH WITH THE INTEGRATION OF THIS NEW LANGUAGE, WHICH REALLY FOCUSES AT LOOKING AT OUR ZONING, IS ARE THE ZONING CHANGES WE'VE MADE WORKING? ARE THEY ENCOURAGING A DIFFERENT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IN MISSING MIDDLE DEVELOPMENT? DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE SOME OF THOSE, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT RECONSTITUTING IDAHO WITH A RENEWED MISSION AND CAN CONTINUE EFFORTS TO KIND OF BALANCE THE DENSITY, SAFETY, LIVABILITY ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP AS CONCERNS OVER THE LAST 
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YEAR. SO THE THOUGHT THERE, AGAIN, WAS TO KEEP THOSE TWO ONGOING. ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT, WITH THAT YELLOW BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE LATER VERY QUICKLY, YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE FAR RIGHT EACH BOX IS SPLIT INTO A TOP LAYER AND A BOTTOM LAYER. THE TOP LAYER IS MEANT FOR WHICH ENTITIES IN THE CITY WILL ARE THE LOGICAL ONES TO CHAMPION THIS, AND THE LOWER ONE. WHICH ENTITIES ARE MORE NATURAL IN THE ROLE OF PARTNERS? IN SOME CASES, I WROTE ALL DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE IT SEEMED LIKE IT APPLIED TO EVERYBODY. IN OTHER CASES, THERE ARE VERY SPECIFICALLY ONES THAT ARE LEAD AND ONES THAT ARE THAT NEED TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION. SO ANYWAY, CHAMPIONS AND PARTNERS IS WHAT WE CAN I INTERRUPT HERE? YES, LISA. I KIND OF I'M JUST WORKING THROUGH SOME OF WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS SAID. AND I DO THINK THAT WE BETWEEN NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, THEY'RE BOTH ONGOING. BUT NUMBER ONE IS THE EMPHASIS AND LIKE AND I CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ABOUT YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THE WORK OF THE DAY TO. BUT BUT I STILL THINK THAT THAT WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS EMPHASIS TO IT. SO I'M NOT SURE I THINK EMPHASIS AND COUNCIL NEEDS TO FEEL SATISFIED LIKE THAT. WE KNOW LIKE THIS HAS BEEN MOVED IN ENOUGH INTO THE DIRECTION THAT WE DON'T NEED TO BABYSIT IT. SO WE CALL IT ONGOING WITH EMPHASIS OR BABYSIT. BUT JUST JUST TO HAVE IT A PRIORITY THAT WE CAN SEE AND WE CAN REFERENCE. OH, IT'S CLEAR THAT WE HAVEN'T CHECKED THE BOX. AND SO IT IS ONGOING. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. 
          GREAT. SECOND PAGE. SECOND PAGE. THE PRIORITY THREE IS ALIGNED WITH THE WITH WITH A DIFFERENT ASPIRATION WITHIN HEALTHY COMMUNITY. THIS WAS ONE THAT COUNCIL HAD MARKED AS AS SORT OF CHECKED OFF BUT ALSO ONGOING, YOU KNOW, AND PERHAPS IT'S A MATTER OF PULLING SOME OF THESE OFF LIKE SAFE STREETS AND BRIDGES. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK. WE'VE DONE SOME WORK AROUND MULTIMODAL. DOES THIS STAY AS ONGOING OR DOES THIS BECOME IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN? I ADDED THIS IN YELLOW BECAUSE OR EMBELLISHED WHAT WAS ALREADY WRITTEN ABOUT MULTIMODAL BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT EVEN JUST THE THREE OF US, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THAT THERE ARE WE ALL MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT EXPECTATION FOR WHAT MULTIMODAL MEANS, AND IT MAY NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT OUR DIRECTOR AND HIS STAFF BELIEVE IT MEANS. AND SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME SHARED UNDERSTANDING THERE SO THAT WE DIDN'T KEEP THROWING THAT PHRASE AROUND. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS ALL ABOUT. BUT I THAT WAS QUITE THE LIBERTY THAT I TOOK THERE, JUST ADDING TO THAT ONE. AND THIS IS A CLASSIC WHERE I'D SAY IMPLEMENTED MAINTAINED WOULD BE THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL. WELL, IT'S ALSO AT RISK. WE SAW A BILL INTRODUCED TO THE LEGISLATURE. 
          YEAH, BUT TO SAY THAT THEY COULD THROW US IN JAIL IF WE VOTED FOR MULTIMODAL. SO ALL THE MORE REASON TO DO IT. THAT WAS FOR HIGHWAY DISTRICTS MORE. BUT IT WILL IF IT GETS THERE. SO JUST KNOW THAT IT'S I AGREE. BUT THE FIRST TWO I THINK ARE THAT'S THE ONLY ONES I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT I THINK IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED. WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT. AND THEN HIGH CAPACITY ROADWAY STUDY. THAT ONE ALSO IS SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY HEAVILY ADDRESSED, BUT WE THOUGHT MAYBE LISA AND JIM FREEMAN MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT HIGH CAPACITY ROADWAY STUDYING. YEAH, IT'S IT'LL BE FINISHED. IT WON'T BE A 25. IT WON'T BE A 25, 26 PRIORITY. IT'LL BE FINISHED. 
          OKAY. SO DO WE WANT TO KEEP THE YELLOW OR DO WE WANT TO JUST SAY, HEY, NO, LET'S NOT EMBELLISH THAT RIGHT NOW. AND I CAN PLANT THAT SEED WITH THE DIRECTOR AND TELL HIM THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING HE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT SOMEDAY. BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE JUST KIND OF DROP NUMBER THREE WITH THIS. NOTE TO BACKBURNER IT. BNPL WHAT'S TAP TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PLAN? YEAH, THAT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE A BETTER WAY TO PUT IT BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE WHEN WE PUT THE RAIL BRIDGE, OUR TO ENHANCE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION OR SOMETHING. 
          YEAH. GIVING PEOPLE OPTIONS OF WAY TO GET RIGHT. I THINK SOMETHING IN THERE. BUT IF MULTIMODAL IS MULTIMODAL IS BIG. I MEAN WE'RE TALKING WE'RE TALKING RAIL AND WE'RE TALKING FERRIES AND WE'RE TALKING I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW EITHER. I'D RATHER LEAVE SOMETHING ABOUT ALTERNATE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS. SO MAYBE WHAT WE CAN CAN DO. SORRY. OH, NO. I'M SORRY. IT'S HARD BECAUSE OF THE DELAY, BUT THAT ONE DIDN'T GET A VERY HIGH RESPONSE. 
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NO. ON OUR OUR SURVEY THIS YEAR. IT IT DIDN'T IT DID NOT. THE REASON IT APPEARS HERE IS JUST THAT THE THAT THE COUNCIL STILL KIND OF WANTED TO HAVE THAT AS AN ONGOING PRIORITY. SO I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO KIND OF DECIDE IS IT, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED. IT'S STILL A FOCUS. WE CAN DEFINITELY WORDSMITH AND SORT OF TALK THROUGH DO WORKSHOPS ON WHAT MULTIMODAL MEANS. BUT AS FAR AS SORT OF THAT FINAL LIST OF PRIORITIES, IT SOUNDS, PERHAPS THIS ONE DOES NOT APPEAR. WELL, IT'S THE SECOND ONE. I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE CARE ABOUT THIS. 
          SO I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY NOT HAVING. ME SAY MULTIMODAL. YEAH, RIGHT. DOESN'T MATTER AS LONG AS THEY KNOW THAT IT'S STILL A CONSISTENT CONCERN FOR US WHEREVER IT LIVES. I'M FINE. 
          OKAY. OR DO YOU? I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK ABOUT EITHER A WAY TO SAY IT. THAT'S CLEAR. LIKE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT INSTEAD OF MULTIMODAL. BUT I DON'T WANT TO. I AM HOPING THAT WE'LL FIND THE WHEREWITHAL TO MAKE THIS A LEANER DOCUMENT, BECAUSE, AGAIN, TOO MANY PRIORITIES CREATE NEW PROBLEMS FOR BUDGET DECISION MAKING AND SUCH. SO, WELL, LET'S LEAVE IT THIS WAY FOR NOW, BECAUSE IT'S STILL ON THERE, ON ON THE HEALTHY COMMUNITY. IT WAS THE SECOND ONE THAT WAS RANKED. WE PUT THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M JUST TRYING TO GO BACK TO THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, DESIGNED AND IMPLEMENTED. A MULTIMODAL MINDSET IS THAT THAT'S THE WAY THAT IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE SURVEY. NO. MULTIMODAL. OH, I DIDN'T BRING MY ONES FROM LAST YEAR. IF WE IF YOU PULLED OUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ONE, THEN IT WAS SORT OF SECOND. IT WAS PROBABLY THIRD. THEN. WHAT DID IT EXACTLY SAY? IT SAID THE CITY STRIVES TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN A COMPREHENSIVE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, SUPPORTING VEHICLES, CYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS. OKAY. I MEAN, THAT MAKES IT CLEAR I JUST, YOU KNOW, THE MULTI WHOLE MULTIMODAL THING. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CLEAR TO PEOPLE UNTIL YOU GIVE IT THE EXPLANATION. I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FREEMAN ON THAT. SO I'M JUST THROWING MY OPINION OUT HERE. I WOULD USE THAT LANGUAGE THAT IDENTIFIES MULTIMODAL AS CAR, PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST. AND I WOULD REMOVE SAFE STREETS AND BRIDGES AND DEVELOP FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR GIFT. I WOULD REMOVE BOTH OF THOSE AS EITHER SAFE STREETS AND BRIDGES. TO MAKE US THE SUSTAINABILITY FOR GIFT THAT IS PRIORITY. THEY'VE ESTABLISHED IT THIS YEAR. IF WE NEED MORE EVENTUALLY, THAT'LL BE A CONVERSATION FOR A FUTURE YEAR. SO I WOULD JUST LEAVE THE DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT A MULTIMODAL MINDSET FOR, YOU KNOW, OR INCORPORATING. CARS, PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT IS HOW I WOULD DO IT. LET ME JUST ASK YOU THIS THEN, BECAUSE I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S IF THIS IS A STRONG ENOUGH STATEMENT, EVEN AS EDITED TO BE A CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY FOR THE YEAR 2025. WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY IMPRESSIVE ONES COMING UP. THIS ONE STRIKES ME AS ORDER OF THE DAY. THIS STRIKES ME AS CHRIS FREDERICKSON KNOWS WHAT MULTIMODAL IS, AND HE KNOWS THE GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE TO WHEN HE'S GOING TO DEVELOP A ROAD. HE KNOWS THAT WE'VE GOT A CYCLING COMMUNITY. HOW IS THIS NOT ALREADY SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING IN PUBLIC WORKS? IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN PUBLIC WORKS FOR. AND SO IS THERE A DEFICIENCY SUCH THAT YOU FEEL LIKE IT MUST BE ELEVATED ONLY BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT THERE AS WORKSHOPS? SO I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. BUT MAYBE THAT CAN JUST BE SOMETHING I SAY. CHRIS, YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS EITHER AT YOUR ANNUAL MEETING THIS SUMMER OR AT A WORK SESSION COMING UP IN THE COMING YEAR, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONVERSATION AROUND MULTIMODAL, AND WE'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ARE. IF I DID THAT, THIS WHOLE THING COULD GO AWAY. SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING I'M DANGLING OUT THERE AND I'M GOING TO BE DONE TRYING TO PUSH THAT. BUT LISA, WOULDN'T IT MAKE WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO SAY IMPLEMENTED MAINTAINED BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAINTAIN LONG TERM. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN PLANNING A PLAN TO KEEP A FINANCIALLY STABLE. BUT HOW ABOUT IF YOU ENSURED THE 
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FINANCIAL STABILITY OF GIFT? I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT LISA SAID. I'M SORRY. WHAT? I'M SORRY. LISA. GO AHEAD. NO. I'M SORRY. SO I'M SO SORRY THAT I'M NOT IN PERSON. I JUST THINK THAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT. I THINK HE KNOWS THAT THAT'S WHERE THIS. COUNCIL IS AT FOR DEVELOPING A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN. AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. AND IF IT GETS IN TROUBLE LIKE ANY OTHER PROGRAM, YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD COME BACK TO US AND IT BECOMES UNSUSTAINABLE IF ANY OTHER PROGRAM BECOMES UNSUSTAINABLE, THEY WOULD BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL. SO I WOULD SAY JUST MARK IT OFF. OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TOO MANY. SO MOVE IT FROM ONGOING TO IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED FOR NOW. LET'S THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE. LET'S KEEP A PIN IN THAT IDEA AS WE MOVE ON TO SEE IF OTHERS DON'T INSPIRE YOU TO BE MORE IMPORTANT, OR STRIKE YOU AS BEING MORE IMPORTANT. SO COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD BE, I THINK THERE'S AGREEMENT OR CONSENSUS THAT THAT WOULD BE AN ONGOING PRIORITY. THE NEXT ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF EXISTING PLANS. AGAIN, COUNCIL KIND OF DESIGNATED THAT WAS ONGOING, BUT EVEN BASED ON THE PRESENTATION FROM FROM PARKS AND RECREATION, IT SEEMS THAT THAT'S REALLY EMBEDDED IN IN HOW THEY OPERATE NOW. SO WOULD THIS BE ONE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO MOVE TO IMPLEMENT IT AND MAINTAIN? SO THE EXPECTATION IS THAT IT WOULD STILL BE A FOCUS. YES. OKAY. THE NEXT ONE HAS THE PRIORITY WAS TO DEVELOP A BUILDING STEWARDSHIP PLAN. AGAIN THIS WAS MARKED AS AS ONGOING. I KNOW DIRECTOR ALEXANDER HAS HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS, BUT THERE MAY BE COMPONENTS OF THE PLAN AS FAR AS YOU KNOW. IS IT ANTICIPATING FUTURE NEEDS OR IS IT JUST ABOUT MAINTAINING CURRENT NEEDS? WHERE THIS WOULD STAY IS AN ONGOING PRIORITY? YEAH. ON A COMMENT ON THIS, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS THIS MORNING WITH THE FIRE CHIEF ABOUT WHY IS THIS ALL UNDER MUNICIPAL SERVICES. I KNOW THAT THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF ALL THE BUILDING STUFF, BUT IT THE FIRE CHIEF WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE IN CONTROL OF HIS OWN SCHEDULE OF MAINTENANCE ON HIS FACILITIES. RIGHT, BECAUSE HE'S CLOSER TO THEM. AND THEN HE DOESN'T HAVE TO COMPETE WITH OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. 
          HE COULD, IF HE COULD CONTROL THAT IN HIS OWN BUDGET, KIND OF A THING. AND HE WAS CURIOUS IF OTHER OTHER DIRECTORS FELT THAT THAT WAY, TOO. YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL SERVICES IS STILL GOING TO HAVE 100 BUILDINGS OR SOMETHING, RIGHT? WITH ALL THE STUFF THEY HAVE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE PARKS SITS ON THIS, BUT, I MEAN, I JUST KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE POLICE, THERE'S A FIRE CHIEF AND I AND I WOULD GUESS THE POLICE CHIEF WOULD RATHER BE IN CHARGE OF THE MAINTENANCE ON HIS OWN BUILDING THAN THAN HAVING SOMEONE ELSE. YOU'RE HITTING ON SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO DISCUSSED, AND I THINK LET ME SEE IF I CAN SUMMARIZE IT. AND THAT IS THAT THIS BUILDING STEWARDSHIP PLAN THAT DIRECTOR ALEXANDER HAS CREATED, AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, IS NOT FOR POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, UTILITIES, THE AIRPORT, THE LIBRARY OR THE POWER UTILITIES OR POWER FIBER UTILITY. IT'S FOR ALL ALL THE ONES THAT I, ALL THE ONES THAT DON'T AND FALL INTO THOSE CATEGORIES. AND YET THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOMETHING TO THIS PLAN AS IT MATURES THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT TO EMULATE OR OR DUPLICATE IN THEIR DEPARTMENT. WE ALSO THOUGHT THERE WILL BE SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD STEWARDSHIP PRINCIPLES OR PRACTICES FOR HOW THEY IDENTIFY, HOW THEY MAINTAIN THEM. THAT MAYBE DIRECTOR ALEXANDER'S APPROACH DIDN'T. SO WE THOUGHT AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BRING TOGETHER EVERYBODY FOR THE CONVERSATION BEFORE THIS IS OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED AND MATURED. AND THEN WE WENT ON TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE. THERE ARE SOME OTHER ELEMENTS TO IT TOO. BESIDES WHO PAYS FOR IT? WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PARTICULAR FACILITY? THERE WAS ALSO SORT OF SEE, IF YOU TURN THAT SCROLL TO THE NEXT PAGE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. 
          THAT'S ONLY 1 OR 2 POINTS. THE NEXT POINT. COLLABORATE WITH ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE EVERY DEPARTMENT AND FUND EVENTUALLY HAS A PLAN. AND YOU DO HAVE ALL THE PARTNERS. AND THEN THREE INCORPORATE FUTURE FACILITY PLANNING. OKAY, SO THAT'S WHERE YOU SAY WHAT KIND OF SPACE DO WE NEED IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, AND HOW DO WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO HOW WE THINK ABOUT OUR BUILDINGS 
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AND OUR OPEN SPACES AND OUR EMPTY SPACES AND OUR CROWDED SPACES? SO WE ADDED, WE TOOK THE LIBERTY OF ADDING A COUPLE MORE TO THIS TO KEEP THIS IN THE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION, MOVING IN THE INTELLIGENT DIRECTION. AND SINCE THERE ARE STILL SOME ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED AROUND THAT YOU IT MADE SENSE. I THINK FOR IT TO REMAIN AS AN ONGOING PRIORITY RATHER THAN IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED. IS THAT SATISFACTORY? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN THE NEXT TWO SORT OF PRIORITIES WERE IDENTIFIED. NEW FOR THE 2526 YEAR. AND THEY REALLY WERE PULLED DIRECTLY FROM ASPIRATIONS, ONE AROUND THE RELATIONSHIPS AND PARTNERSHIPS AND ONE AROUND GOOD GOVERNANCE. 
          SO WITH THESE WE HAVE THIS SORT OF GENERAL GOAL, THIS GENERAL DIRECTION, BUT NOT SOME SPECIFIC ACTIONABLE ITEMS. AND THE THOUGHT WAS PERHAPS TO PRESENT THESE TO DIRECTORS AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM DIRECTORS WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM NEXT WEEK AS PART OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, TO SEE WHAT SOME OF THESE ACTIONABLE ITEMS COULD BE. AND THEN WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK TO COUNCIL AS WE REFINE THESE PRIORITIES. IF THAT APPROACH WORKS FOR COUNCIL. SO IT WOULD IT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S REALLY HIGH LEVEL SAYING, HEY THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US. AND THEN THE DIRECTORS SAY, HEY, YEAH, I'M DOING X OR OH, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT IF IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COUNCIL, I MIGHT INCORPORATE Y OR Z OR SOMETHING IN THERE AND WHERE WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM NEXT MONDAY. LIKE WHAT YOU SAID. OKAY. THEN WITH THE FINANCIAL STABILITY ASPIRATION LAST YEAR, THE PRIORITY WAS TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR BUDGET PROCESSES. AND THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, REIMAGINED THE WAY THE CITY PULLS TOGETHER, THE BUDGET WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR OR 18 MONTHS OR SO. SO I THINK, AGAIN, THIS IS ONE WHERE DOES THIS NEED TO REMAIN A PRIORITY OR DOES THIS SHIFT INTO THAT IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED CATEGORY? IS THERE ANYBODY UNHAPPY WITH IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN FOR THIS ONE? I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE. 
          PERFECT. GREAT. THEN THE OTHER PRIORITY THAT WAS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A NEW PRIORITY FOR 2526 WAS THE ERP PROCUREMENT IMPLEMENTATION. AGAIN, THERE'S NOT ANY SPECIFIC ACTIONABLE ITEMS. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK THROUGH WITH DIRECTORS AND BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL. MARGARET. YES, MA'AM. THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE. YES. I THINK THAT THAT ERP PROCUREMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION, JUST AN IDEA IS THAT. TIMELINE? YES. THERE THERE ARE SOME PRETTY SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE MEETING. OUR, OUR. THE CONTRACTS AND THE EXPECTATIONS, ALL OF THAT. I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT IS WHAT YOU'RE THINKING WILL COME FORWARD. YES. WHEN YOU MEET WITH THE DIRECTORS SO THAT THAT WE THAT THAT WE KNOW OF ANY SLIPPAGE OR ANY LIKE, OH WE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT BEHIND BECAUSE OF THIS. IT'S JUST, IT'S SO CRITICAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS SUCCESSFUL. NO, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THOSE I THINK ACTIONABLE ITEMS WOULD BE. WE'RE WORKING ON THE FINAL SCOPES OF WORK. THOSE WILL COME TO COUNCIL AT A WORK SESSION IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO. SORRY. IT'S ON THE APRIL 7TH, I THINK, IS WHEN WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING THAT FORWARD AND HAVE ALSO SORT OF PULLED TOGETHER SOME ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR PROJECT ERP PROJECT MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS IMPLEMENTED ACCORDING TO THAT. THAT TIMELINE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT. GO AHEAD. GREAT. I WAS GOING TO SAY MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER LARSON AND I, AS THE LIAISON TO FINANCE, ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY REALLY PLAYS A PIECE IN ERP THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT EVERY TIME WE DO A COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT, I GUESS WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE'RE ON SCHEDULE, THAT IT'S LIKE ON TOP OF MIND AT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, NOT JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, AS THEY GET SCHEDULED IN, BUT THAT THAT WE TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN REPORTING BACK ON IT. THAT IS THAT'S DEFINITELY AN APPROACH WE CAN TAKE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING AND THAT IS THAT MAYBE I SHOULD CHANGE THE CATEGORY TO CITYWIDE SOFTWARE PROCUREMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION. 
          AND THEN ONE OF THE BULLETS ERP, ONE OF THE BULLETS B C IS ONE OF THE BULLETS. B FIDELITY TO 
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TIMELINE, ONE OF THE BULLETS B YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE. SOMETHING ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE USING FOR THIS, BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN BIG TALKING POINTS UNDER THIS HEADER OF HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, BRING IN THIS THIS MAJOR SOFTWARE. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A ROOM TO SORT OF REORGANIZE THIS JUST A LITTLE BIT. AND THEN REMEMBER WHO'S ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE. THAT WOULD BE PAM ALEXANDER, BEAR PRAIRIE, CHRIS FREDERICKSON, DARREN JONES AND PAM PAM, THIS WOMAN RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PERSON, MARGARET. AND SO THE FIVE OF THEM, IF ANY OF YOU LIAISE WITH ANY OF THOSE GUYS LIKE LISA JUST SAID, YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT'S BEING THAT'S ROLLING ALONG PROPERLY. SO IT DOES GIVE A LOT OF A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ACCESS TO INFO. DOES THAT HELP, LISA, OR DO YOU WANT US TO FORMALIZE IT IN SOME OTHER WAY? NO, NO, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT IT'S MORE OF INTERNALLY THINKING THAT I CAN TAKE THAT. I EVERYBODY HAS A ROLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WORKS FOR US. OKAY. WHEN I SAY THIS I NEED TO SEE. YEAH OKAY. 
          GREAT. THE NEXT ONE IS AGAIN A NEW PRIORITY FOR 2526. SO PERHAPS WE CAN TAKE THAT SAME APPROACH WHERE WE CAN SORT OF SHARE THIS WITH WITH DIRECTORS AND BRING THOSE ACTIONABLE ITEMS BACK TO, TO COUNCIL. RIGHT. THERE'S AGREEMENT ON THAT ONE. MOVING ON. AND THEN WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, AGAIN, WITH THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AROUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, IS THIS ONE THAT HAS BECOME, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED AND DOES NOT NEED TO STAND ALONE AS A AS A PRIORITY. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? ONE? TO IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN? OKAY, OKAY. THEN UNDER THE NATURAL RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED AT THE RETREAT WAS SORT OF A PARK ZONE PARK ZONING AND STANDARDS. AS ONE OF THE NEW PRIORITIES. THEN THE SUSTAINABILITY OF RESOURCES. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED IN 24 AS PART OF THIS SUSTAINABILITY OF RESOURCES. GOAL. IS THIS ONE OR SORRY PRIORITY? IS THIS ONE THAT IS ONGOING OR THAT WE CAN MARK AS IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAIN? YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT ONE? THE SUSTAINABILITY ONE? YES. SO IT'D BE PRIORITY 14. YEAH. I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ANYWHERE NEAR IMPLEMENTING. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD BE ONE WITH ITS ONGOING. YEAH, YEAH. AND I WOULD SAY MAYBE AN EMPHASIS FOR THE WATER USE MESSAGING. YEAH. YEAH. WELL RECYCLING TOO I MEAN WE'RE NOT EVEN ALL WE'RE DOING IS GLASS NOW. YOU KNOW WE JUST TO FIND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE CONTACTED ME AND YOU KNOW, I SHALL BE ABLE TO TAKE MY CARDBOARD TO THE PARK AND NOW I CAN'T YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND STUFF. SO, YOU KNOW, I OTHER PEOPLE ARE FINDING WAYS TO RECYCLE AND WE'RE NOT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY FOR US. THEN THE OTHER NEW PRIORITY UNDER NATURAL RESOURCE STEWARDSHIP THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AT THE RETREAT WAS THE ITEM THAT WE ADDED AROUND THE RIVER. THERE WAS ALSO TALK ABOUT MAKING THAT A PRIORITY. BUT. NOT. NOT WITH SORT OF SPECIFIC TASKS ASSIGNED TO WHAT THAT WOULD WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN. SO THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT AGAIN, WE COULD TAKE TO TWO DIRECTORS AND SAY, THIS IS THE ASPIRATION THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO RECOGNIZING AND PROTECTING THE SNAKE RIVER AS A CENTURY NATURAL RESOURCE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMMUNITY'S OVERALL SENSE OF PLACE AND NATURAL BEAUTY, SERVES AS A SOURCE OF NON-CARBON EMITTING POWER, PROVIDES A PLACE TO RECREATE AND DELIVERS ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. SO THIS WOULD BE ONE WE COULD SEEK ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM DIRECTORS. AS FAR AS THE ACTION ITEMS. OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD IT SOMEWHERE, AND THAT SOME OTHER YEAR YOU'LL GET TO IT? YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, MY WHOLE POINT ABOUT BRINGING IT UP WAS DO NO HARM KIND OF THE THOUGHT, RIGHT, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT FITS INTO ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S THE THOUGHT IN MY MIND IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DEVELOPED IT TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT TO DO IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN RIGHT NOW. YOU KNOW, IT IS QUITE, 
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QUITE WELL DEVELOPED, EVEN WITH HERITAGE PARK NOW. BUT I THINK IT'S UP TO US TO NOT NOT HARM THE ENVIRONMENT ITSELF, THE RIVER ITSELF, BECAUSE IT'S NOT US IT'S GOING TO AFFECT, IT'S OUR NEIGHBORS KIND OF A THING, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW, AM I MAKING ANY SENSE? OKAY. ALTHOUGH THAT SPEAKS TO IT BEING AN ASPIRATION THAT LIVES IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BUT NOT A PRIORITY THAT HAS MUCH OF DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET, DOESN'T HAVE A BUDGET. NEXUS. YEAH, OKAY. I'M SORRY, BUT MAYBE EVEN JUST HIGHLIGHTING IT TO THE DIRECTORS THAT IT'S THERE. AND UNLESS ANY OF THEM ARE SAYING, OH YEAH, I'VE GOT AN INITIATIVE. YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T, THEN LET'S JUST LET IT BE THERE AND WE'LL REVIEW IT IN A FUTURE YEAR. OKAY. YOU'RE BEING SERIOUS. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT, KIRK FOR ANOTHER MEETING. OKAY, THEN. UNDER THE NEW ASPIRATIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY OR PUBLIC COMMUNITY SAFETY OR COMMUNITY SAFETY, WE HAVE FROM 24 THE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD POLICING AND THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. DO WE FEEL THAT ONE OF THE OR BOTH OF THOSE HAVE SORT OF SHIFTED INTO THE IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED? I THINK WE'VE MADE GREAT STRIDES AROUND CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT'S BECOME A REAL FOCUS FOR IAF. IFP. I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS WORK THAT THEY CAN CAN PROBABLY BE DONE AROUND COMMUNITY POLICING. SO DOES THAT REMAIN AS THE ONGOING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT IS MAINTAINED REMAINS ONGOING? YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT IS I THINK BOTH BOTH THOSE ONGOING ONGOING AS IN ONGOING IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN OR ONGOING ACTIVE ONGOING ACTIVE COMMUNITY POLICING IS A LONG TERM THING. AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY WORKED OUT METRICS FOR IT. AND THAT THAT GOES THAT GOES BACK TO THE CHIEFS THE FIVE YEARS HE'S GOT. BECAUSE A LOT OF THAT WAS FUNDING, RIGHT. THOSE POLICE. SO YEAH. AND THINGS LIKE THE COPS GRANT GOES AWAY AND WE NEVER GOT IT BECAUSE OF FEDERAL GRANT. YEAH. WHO KNOWS OR WHATEVER. SO WE HAVE WAYS TO GO ON THAT. AND THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT. DO YOU FEEL WHAT WAS THE OVERALL EXPECTATION WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT? AND THOSE OF YOU WHO RAISED THAT, HAVE WE HIT IT OR HAVE WE KNOW COME NOWHERE NEAR IT? I JUST GOT BEAT UP ABOUT IT ON SNOW REMOVAL ALONG 17TH STREET AGAIN. SO I THINK IT'S ONGOING. WE I DON'T KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR MORE PEOPLE, MORE STAFF AS WE GET TO BE A BIGGER CITY. I AGREE THAT IT'S ONGOING. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEY HAVE MOVED SOME PEOPLE AROUND SO THEY DO HAVE MORE STAFF DOING IT NOW, RIGHT? I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE AGAIN, THAT MAY BE FOR ANOTHER MEETING. HAS HE HAVE HAS POLICE REACHED A LEVEL THAT'S ACCEPTABLE? MAYBE NOT ASPIRATIONAL, BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, DOES HE STILL NEED TO BE DOING THIS FOR CODE, OR IS IT MORE LIKE THIS WITH CODE, OR IS IT MORE LIKE THIS WITH CODE? I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A COMING TOGETHER CONVERSATION WITH CHIEF AND COUNCIL, AND THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE SOMETHING WE COULD DO WITH THE BUDGET KICKOFF ON APRIL 28TH, WHERE WE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND DIFFERENT PRIORITIES AND DIFFERENT ASPIRATIONS ABOUT WHAT THE METRICS LOOK LIKE, AND PERHAPS THAT COULD BECOME PART OF THAT CONVERSATION SO THAT DIRECTORS HAVE A CLEAR IDEA OF SORT OF HOW DO THEY KNOW WHEN THEY'VE HIT THAT MARK, WHEN THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL? OKAY. WE HAD A QUESTION THAT WE ASKED EVERYBODY TO ANSWER LAST YEAR, AND THAT IS WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A MUCH HARDER QUESTION THAN ANY OF US THOUGHT IT WOULD BE. AND WE NEVER REALLY HIT IT FOR ANY OF THEM OTHER THAN SOMETIMES WE ALL TEND TO HAVE CONSENSUS. AND SO MAYBE WE KNOW IT INTUITIVELY, BUT WHEN WE DON'T KNOW IT INTUITIVELY, WE'VE GOT TO DIG A LITTLE DEEPER. ARE OTHER PRIORITIES UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY? WAS THIS IDEA OF EXPLORING METRO FIRE? I THINK SOME THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. I'LL COMMENT ON THAT. MAY THAT MAY NOT BE A PRIORITY FOR THIS PARTICULAR, BUT IT CAN CHANGE, RIGHT? BASED ON AN ELECTION OR A RETIREMENT OR. YES. SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE THIS ONE WOULD BE ONGOING, BUT SLIGHTLY LESS ACCURATE. YEAH. I JUST I JUST THINK THAT WE'VE MADE THE OFFER RIGHT. WE'VE MADE WE'VE INTRODUCED THE IDEA, BUT THE INTEREST ISN'T THERE ON THEIR PART RIGHT NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON HOLD I GUESS. AND THE OFFER STILL STANDS. I JUST WANT TO SAY CONTINUE TO EXPLORE. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. SO DO THE RELEVANT AGENCIES KNOW THIS IS 
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ON OUR AGENDA. YOU SAID. OH YES. OH YEAH. THEY'RE ALL THEY KNOW NOW. ALL RIGHT OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE YOU HAVE TO FLIP TO THAT LAST PAGE. BUT IS THE IDEA OF THE REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER. 
          IT WAS DESIGNATED AS A PRIORITY IN 24. BUT I THINK AS WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AT THE RETREAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THAT SHOULD REMAIN A HIGH PRIORITY OR SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE KIND OF, AGAIN, PUT ON, ON HOLD FOR, FOR NOW. SO ON YOUR REGIONAL TRAINING CENTER, THE SECOND BULLET POINT WHERE YOU EXPLORE A REGIONAL POST, WELL, I MEAN, CEI JUST PICKED UP POST, RIGHT, RIGHT. SO THERE'S OUR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP KIND OF A THING RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO EXPLORE THE REGIONAL. OH YEAH WE DO BECAUSE THERE'S DOLLARS THAT WILL FOLLOW FOR IBAC AND OTHER ASPECTS OF NOT JUST OTHER NOT JUST NOT JUST THE CLASSROOM PART, OKAY. RIGHT. BUT BUT WE'RE THEY PICKED UP, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THAT I THINK FOR US TO TAKE OUR FOOT OFF THE GAS, I DON'T MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE TO THE FLOOR, BUT I THINK WE STILL NEED TO NURSING THAT ALONG. IT'S ONGOING. OKAY. YEAH. 
          THERE'S THAT POTENTIAL FOR THE STATE TO COME AROUND TO REGIONAL VEHICLE. EMERGENCY VEHICLE TRAINING THING AND FOR POST TO BE FORMERLY AND FOR PLACES THAT'S ONGOING CONVERSATION STATE LEVEL. AND WE WANT TO BE READY TO PICK UP ON THAT. SO I'D SAY ONGOING IS OKAY OKAY. AND YEAH, IT'S LIKE IT'S A DORMANT UNTIL AN OPPORTUNITY COMES ALONG THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY SCOURING THE HORIZON FOR. AND THEN IT POPS UP AWAKE AGAIN. BUT I DO THINK THAT WE CAN'T PUT IT TO BED YET. TOO MUCH POTENTIAL THERE. OKAY. SO ACCORDING TO MY SORT OF ROUGH NOTES, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE HAVE BEEN 4 OR 5 PRIORITIES THAT WERE MOVED FROM ONGOING TO IMPLEMENTED AND MAINTAINED. SO WE WILL MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AND THEN SHARE THIS WITH DIRECTORS NEXT MONDAY. 
          AGAIN WITH SOME NOTES THAT YOU KNOW, ON HOLD OR CONTINUE TO EXPLORE AS WELL. SO I'M GOING TO BACK UP ON WHAT I TOLD YOU IN ANOTHER MEETING. I JUST WANT TO THROW THIS OUT. I DON'T NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. SO SEE. YEAH. SEE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE OVERARCHING FOR ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS. BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE HIT THE POINT OF, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE AND SOME HAVE NOT? WHAT ARE YOU DOING. DO YOU HAVE ONE THAT HAS DISAPPOINTING PERFORMANCE THAT YOU SAY, WELL, NOT SO MUCH DISAPPOINTING PERFORMANCE. LET'S JUST AND I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY SPECIFICALLY. LET'S JUST TAKE THE CAPITAL BUDGETING CONCEPT IF, IF THERE'S YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY DEPARTMENTS THERE ARE AND EIGHT OF THEM ARE REALLY UP ON THE CAPITAL BUDGETING AND THEY'VE GOT IT NAILED AND THEY'VE GOT MURPH FUNDED AND THEY'VE GOT IT ALL GOING. BUT THERE'S TWO THAT DON'T. AND IT COULD BE ANYTHING ON THIS LIST THAT FITS THAT. HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT? AND AGAIN, NOT SO MUCH A CONVERSATION. NOW JUST AS YOU WORK THROUGH THIS JUST TO QUICK RESPONSE. AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DIG INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE. BUT I THINK THAT THAT THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IS WITH, WITH ALL OF THESE PRIORITIES, WHILE THEY ARE CITY WIDE NOW, THERE ARE STILL DEPENDING ON THE PRIORITIES OF THE CHAMPIONS, SOMEONE WHO IS IN CHARGE OF MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON THAT WORK AND IMPLEMENTING THAT WORK CITYWIDE. SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE EXPEDITED PERMITTING, CBS IS THE CHAMPION ON THAT, BUT THEY CAN'T DO THAT WORK ALONE. THEY NEED POWER, THEY NEED FIRE, THEY NEED PUBLIC WORKS. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE WOULD BE SIMILAR. I WOULD IMAGINE THAT, YOU KNOW, MUNICIPAL SERVICES WOULD TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT, AND THEY WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE WORKING, WORKING THROUGH THAT. AND THEN IT MAY ALSO BE PART OF SORT OF COMING UP AGAIN WITH THOSE METRICS. HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, WHEN WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE? OKAY. SO I'M ENVISIONING. SO LET ME JUST VERY QUICKLY WE NEED TO BE DONE. BUT WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THE CHAMPIONS AND PARTNERS. COLUMN AND JUST SHOOT ME A MESSAGE? IF YOU THINK THAT THAT WE'VE LEFT SOMETHING OBVIOUS OFF OF THAT IN TERMS OF SOMEONE, A DEPARTMENT OR A PROGRAM OF THE CITY, THAT SHOULD BE VERY INVOLVED. SECONDLY, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING. SO LAST YEAR WHEN WE WENT TO THE DIRECTOR'S WORKSHOP, WE WENT TO THAT BUDGET WORKSHOP WITH A VERY CLEAR LIST OF PRIORITIES FROM EACH DEPARTMENT. THIS YEAR, IT'S DIFFERENT. IT'S ROLLING. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES NOW. THEY'RE CITYWIDE PRIORITIES THAT HAVE GROUPINGS, THAT COLLABORATIVE GROUPINGS OF DEPARTMENTS. AND SO IT'S JUST A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH. AND SO WE'RE NOT ABLE TO JUST SAY HERE ARE THE PRIORITIES. DEVELOP 
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A PRESENTATION. WE WANT TO SEE THESE IN, YOU KNOW, ROLLED INTO YOUR BUDGETS. THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION WITH THEM. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW THEM THIS. IT'S GOING TO BE HEY, WHICH DO YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT? THE ONES THAT ARE ONGOING NEED TO BE PREPARED TO PUT SOME ENERGY INTO THE ONES THAT ARE BRAND NEW. AND WE NEED TO BE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE CHAMPIONS. IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE CHAMPIONS, THEN HOW ARE THEY GOING TO SHARE IT AND DEVELOP SOME SORT OF A PLAN OR BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR THAT. AND SO THERE'S IT'S JUST GOING TO FEEL A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT LESS CUT AND DRY BY DEPARTMENT AND PRIORITY. AND BOOM, WE GOT TO CHECK THE BOX. AND I THINK IT HAS IT'S GOING TO BE A BIT OF A MAJOR CHANGE BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS WE'RE SAYING COUNCIL IS WORKING TOWARDS ONE CITY, ONE TEAM, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF THINKING DIFFERENTLY. DOES THAT MAKE. YEAH I MEAN BUT BUT BUT I DON'T THINK WE HAVE DIRECTORS THAT ARE ADVERSE TO WORKING WITH EACH OTHER. BUT SOME OF THEM ARE USED TO GETTING IN THE CAR AND DRIVING THEMSELVES. AND SO HAVING TO CARPOOL MAY BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY AT FIRST, BUT THEY'RE NOT ADVERSE TO WORKING TOGETHER. SO YEAH, JUST IT'S GOING TO FEEL A BIT MESSY. YEAH. LISA, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS COMPLETELY, I REALLY DO. AND I THINK THAT WHEN IT SAID LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON THIS YET. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S THE DIRECTORS, IT'S THE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE ALL IN THE ROOM COLLABORATING AND COMMUNICATING. I THINK WE HAVE SUCH TOP NOTCH DIRECTORS. THEY'RE ALL VERY SMART AND THEY ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT VISION FOR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR DEPARTMENT IS AND WHAT THEIR DEPARTMENT CAN BRING. BUT I FEEL LIKE WE WILL HAVE BETTER SOLUTIONS COMING FROM THE COLLABORATION OF THE DIRECTORS THAN IF COUNCIL WERE TO GIVE SPECIFICS. SO, I MEAN, I THINK ONE CITY, ONE TEAM AND BREAKING DOWN SILOS, GETTING GROUP GROUPS TOGETHER LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT I SEE THE NEW PRIORITIES TAKING. 
          YEAH. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STAYING LATE. IS THERE ANY ARE THERE ANY LAST WORDS? I KIND OF KEEP BOSSING THIS TO TRY TO GET DONE AND THEN I TALK TOO MUCH. ANYTHING, MARGARET, THAT YOU HAVE OR. NO, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW THIS IS IT WILL INCORPORATE THESE CHANGES. I THINK THAT THIS GIVES US A GREAT FRAMEWORK FOR A REALLY GOOD CONVERSATION WITH DIRECTORS ON MONDAY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION WHEN WE COME TOGETHER FOR THE BUDGET KICKOFF IN LATE APRIL. I THINK I AS WE REVISE THIS, IT MAY CHANGE FROM A COLOR CODING THAT MATCHES THIS TO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE UNIFORM, BUT I THINK THERE'LL BE A REORDERING AND WE'LL START WITH THE THINGS THAT ARE COMPLETE OR CHECKED OFF. THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE ONES THAT ARE ONGOING BACK BURNER. THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE ONGOING ACTIVE AND THEN I'LL PUT A NUMBER BY THEM. THE ONGOING ACTIVE TWO MEANS 24 OR 25. IF THERE ARE ONGOING ACTIVE ONE MEANS THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THEY'RE COMING FORWARD. AND MAYBE WE'LL TRACK THEM IN A CERTAIN WAY. BUT THAT THAT RIGHT NOW THE COLUMN THAT SAYS NOTES IT'LL CHANGE TO STATUS. AND WE'LL WE'LL REORDER THEM BY STATUS. THAT WAY IT WILL HELP US TO KNOW WHICH ONES ARE HOT AND WHICH ONES ARE A LITTLE LESS WARM AND WHICH ONES ARE COOLER, SO TO SPEAK. DOES THAT SOUND OKAY SO FAR? DO YOU THINK OF A BETTER PROCESS? LET ME KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING THIS UP AS WE WE'RE BUILDING THE PLANE AS WE FLY IT OR WHATEVER. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A
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