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WELL. IT'S SEVEN. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 7TH, 2025.

WELCOME, EVERYBODY IN PERSON AND ONLINE.

I THINK THE APPLICANT, AT LEAST IS ONLINE.

[Election of Officers]

SO WE'LL BEGIN THE MEETING TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S JANUARY WITH AN ELECTION OF OFFICERS.

I THINK, DO I JUST TAKE NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR? VICE CHAIR? YES.

YOU TAKE NOMINATIONS FIRST AND THEN MOTIONS AFTER THAT, AND YOU CAN DO THEM SEPARATELY OR YOU CAN DO THEM TOGETHER.

IF INDIVIDUALS WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE SOMEONE FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR WITH ONE NOMINATION, THEY COULD DO THAT OR DO THEM AS SEPARATE ACTIONS, WHICHEVER YOUR PREFERENCE.

VERY GOOD. I'LL HEAR ANY MOTIONS FIRST, PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT WOULD NOMINATE THEN.

I'VE BEEN TO BE CHAIR OF THE FOREST ISLAND TO BE RIGHT HERE.

GONNA MAKE US DO THAT AGAIN.

IT'S SUCH A GOOD JOB. ANY SECOND OR OTHER DISCUSSION.

MULTIPLE SECONDS. THANK YOU.

OKAY. TAKE JUST A VOICE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. NAY.

ANY NAYS? OKAY, I GUESS IT'S UNANIMOUS.

ONE MORE YEAR. ALL RIGHT.

AT LEAST FOR NOW. WE'LL SEE.

WELL, WE'LL THEN CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER ON THE BUSINESS TONIGHT.

THANKS FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE.

BY AS WAS.

COMMISSIONER SCOTT SAID ALREADY I'VE SCREWED UP ENOUGH.

AND FINALLY GETTING TRAINED AS WELL.

TRY IT AGAIN FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

WE'LL WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE IT A GOOD THING AND AND DO OUR BEST IN THE COMING YEAR.

FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING OF R3.

MULTIPLE DWELLING RESIDENTIAL FOR APPROXIMATELY 0.633 ACRES.

OH. I'M SORRY. SEE? I'M ALREADY MESSING UP.

IT'S TOO LATE. CAN WE RECOUNT THAT? YEAH. ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES?

[Minutes: December 03, 2024]

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

IT. THE PDF SAYS CORRECTED.

DOES THAT MEAN SOMETHING WAS CORRECTED OR CHANGED AFTER THE FACT? YEAH, I HAD THE WRONG NUMBERS ON SOME OF THEM, SO I JUST SO I KNOW WHICH ONE I WAS SENDING TO AND I MARKED AS CORRECTED.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

OKAY, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING ON DECEMBER 3RD.

I MOVE WE. ACCEPT APPROVE THE MINUTES AS READ.

PERFECT. THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU.

WE'LL TAKE A JUST A VOICE VOTE ON THAT AS WELL.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN ON THE ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING OF R3.

[1. ANX24-012: Annexation and Initial Zoning of R3, Multiple Dwelling Residential for approximately 0.633 acres situated in Government Lot 1, Section 7, Township 2 North, Range 38 East. Located north of MK Simpson Boulevard, east of N 5th W, south of W 33rd North, and west of N Boulevard. ¹ ]

AND I UNDERSTAND OUR APPLICANT IS ON TEAMS. CORRECT. DO YOU PATCH HIM IN OR LET HIM SPEAK FOR HIM OR HER? YEAH. OH THANK YOU.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE THEIR SCREEN NOW WITH THEIR PRESENTATION.

OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND, WILL YOU START WITH A NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES. HELLO, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS KELLY CHILDS.

AN ADDRESS IS 1100 WEST IDAHO STREET, BOISE, IDAHO, 80,702.

OKAY. GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

SURE. PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE JENKINS PARCEL ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING.

SO THIS IS A PARCEL THAT IS 0.63 ACRES WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS GOVERNMENT LOT ONE, SECTION SEVEN, TOWNSHIP TWO NORTH, RANGE 38 EAST.

AND LIKE I ALREADY SAID, WE ARE REQUESTING ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING APPROVALS TONIGHT.

WE HAVE A FEW MEMBERS OF THE APPLICANT TEAM WITH US TONIGHT.

MELANIE DAVIES AND JAY HANS ARE MEMBERS OF DEVCO DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS ABBY HAHN AND MYSELF, WHO ARE MEMBERS OF KIMLEY-HORN AND THE ENGINEERING TEAM ON THIS PROJECT.

SO THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED NEAR THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF WEST 33RD NORTH AND NORTH FIFTH WEST DESIGNATED BY THIS LITTLE YELLOW BOX HERE.

IT IS WITHIN THE CITY'S AREA OF IMPACT, AND IS A COUNTY ENCLAVE THAT IS SURROUNDED BY THE CITY LIMITS ON ALL SIDES.

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SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE BLACK DASHED LINE DESIGNATING THE THE CITY LIMITS ON THIS MAP.

AND ONCE AGAIN, IT IS A 0.63 ACRES.

IT IS CURRENTLY HOME TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, AND THE CURRENT COUNTY ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL OR A1. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CITY DESIGNATES THIS SITE AS A GENERAL URBAN.

AND ALONG WITH THAT, OUR PROPOSED ZONING IS R3.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SITE IS ALREADY SURROUNDED TO THE NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST WITH R-3 ZONING, AND THE PROPERTY ACROSS NORTH FIFTH WEST IS DESIGNATED AS RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OR R&D.

THE R-3 ZONING IS KNOWN AS MULTIPLE DWELLING RESIDENTIAL, AND THE R-3 ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL URBAN POLICIES DESIGNATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE THINK THIS ANNEXATION IN R-3 ZONING IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

IT IS A COUNTY ENCLAVE, SO ANNEXING THE PROPERTY IN WOULD BE A CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY FOR THE CITY.

WATER, SEWER, POWER AND TELECOM FACILITIES ARE ALSO LOCATED ALONG THE PROPERTY FRONTAGE.

AND IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO BE ANNEXED, IT WOULD IT WOULD BECOME A PART OF THE CREEKSIDE VILLAGE SUBDIVISION PLAT THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE CITY.

AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE A SNIPPET OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN.

THE THE BLUE BLOCK.

THE BLUE BOX IS THE 0.63 ACRE PARCEL THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.

SO ONCE AGAIN, WE WOULD ASK FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING TO R-3.

AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU.

AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? OKAY. HERE A STAFF REPORT.

I FEEL LIKE SHE JUST READ MY STAFF REPORT.

SO REPORT. SO I'M GOING TO ADD TWO THINGS.

ONE, THE RECOMMENDATION OR EXCUSE ME, THE ACTION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE TONIGHT IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

OR THE REQUESTED ACTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING OF R3 TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

I WILL HAVE YOU ADD TO THAT THOUGH, THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE OF LIMITED DEVELOPMENT.

AND I WILL ALSO ADD THAT THE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT AIRPORT LAND USE MIMICS THE SAME USE THAT ALLOWED USES IN THE R3 ZONE AS WELL.

SO I INCLUDED THOSE I BELIEVE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

AND WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE ANNEXATION INITIAL ZONING APPLICATION OR HAS REVIEWED IT AND FINDS THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE ZONING CODE, AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION WITH THE INITIAL ZONING OF R3 WITH THE WITH THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE, AND I WOULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER RYDER? JUST REAL QUICK. SO YOU SAID THAT THE LIMITED DEVELOPMENT AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE FOLLOWS THE SAME RULES AS R3? PRETTY MUCH. OKAY, THAT'S.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, SO THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

THAT WAS MOSTLY JUST A LEARNING THING.

YEAH. THERE'S A MAJORITY OF THE LAND USES IN THE R3 LAND USE TABLE, AND THE AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE FOR LIMITED DEVELOPMENT ARE ALMOST THEY ALMOST MARRY EACH OTHER. SO.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ONLINE, BUT I DON'T SEE ANYBODY HERE.

SO WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT WE HAVE DONE SO OFFICIALLY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? ARE YOU SURE? ALL RIGHT.

THEN WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SEEING? NO. NOBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

AND GO AHEAD AND DISCUSS AS A COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

SEEMS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. OKAY.

SO WHATEVER MOTION IS MADE, PLEASE READ IT AS LISTED, BUT INCLUDE THE VERBIAGE WITH AIRPORT OVERLAY AND WITH WITH AIRPORT OVERLAY WITH LIMITED

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DEVELOPMENT. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE ANNEXATION AND INITIAL ZONING OF R3.

MULTIPLE DWELLING, RESIDENTIAL AND AIRPORT.

AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE OF LIMITED DEVELOPMENT.

FOR THE ANNEXATION OF 0.633 ACRES.

GOVERNMENT, LOT ONE, SECTION FOUR.

THAT'S THE AS READ AT THE TITLE OF OUR REPORT.

HOW ABOUT THAT? I THINK THAT WORKS.

THANK YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO DO THAT ALL OVER AGAIN? SURE. DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR OUR MOTION? SECOND. OKAY.

THEN WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR WITH A SECOND, WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL.

VOTE. COMMISSIONER CANTU.

HI. HI, TYLER.

HI, OGDEN. I MEAN, I SCOTT, I MOTION PASSED.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

[2. PLT24-053: FINAL PLAT for MK Simpson Center Division No. 3. Part of the NE ¼ of Section 12, Township 2 North, Range 37 East. Located north of MK Simpson Boulevard, east of University Boulevard, south of W 33rd North, west of N 4th W. ¹ ]

ON TO THE BUSINESS ITEMS. WE HAVE A FINAL PLAT REQUEST FOR SIMPSON CENTER DIVISION NUMBER THREE.

WE'LL HEAR WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS OR JUST STAFF, PLEASE.

NOW, YOU WANT TO SPEAK? YEAH. YOU HAVE TO.

OH. ALL RIGHT.

THE REQUESTED ACTION FOR THIS IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR M K SIMPSON CENTER DIVISION NUMBER THREE TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS IN THE SAME GENERAL VICINITY AS WHAT WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT.

AND SO HERE'S THE PARCEL THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT AND WE'RE RIGHT HERE.

ACROSS THE SOUTH.

ACROSS FIFTH WEST.

THIS IS THE OLD CAMPUS RIGHT HERE.

THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED TO THE CITY BACK IN 2006.

THE INITIAL ZONING ANYONE, WHICH WAS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.

IT WAS REZONED TO R&D RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT IN 2018 AS PART OF THE CITY WIDE REZONE.

THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AND INCLUDES ONE BUILDABLE LOT ON APPROXIMATELY 4.251 ACRES.

ACCESS WILL COME FROM THE SOUTH FROM MAKE A MOTION BOULEVARD RIGHT HERE.

THERE AREN'T A LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS OR HEIGHT RESTRICTION IN THE R&D ZONE.

BUT IT IS ALSO IN THAT LIMITED DEVELOPMENT AIRPORT OVERLAY ZONE WHICH IS STILL FAIRLY FLEXIBLE BUT WOULD REQUIRE THINGS LIKE NAVIGATION EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN ON THE PLAT REGARDING SOUND LEVEL FOR AIRPORT TRAFFIC THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE AREA AS SPECIAL USE, WHICH IS SET ASIDE FOR A TYPE OF LAND USE THAT DID NOT FIT INTO BROAD USE CATEGORIES SUCH AS DIAGONAL, CAMPUS OR UNIVERSITY PLACE.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THE CAMPUS.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE FINAL PLAT, FINDS THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMPLIES WITH THE SUBDIVISION ZONING ORDINANCES, AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAN FOR THE DIVISION NUMBER ONE.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I HAVE A QUESTION. YES.

GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY IS THIS THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A NUCLEAR REACTOR, ISN'T IT? IS THIS A JOKE? NOT YET.

OKAY. THEY WON'T TELL US WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

THEY JUST KNOW IT'S STUPID.

THOSE ARE OFF, MARK.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? I DO HAVE A QUESTION, ACTUALLY.

PLEASE. THE REAL ONE.

A REAL ONE? YEAH.

WHO IS THE CURRENT OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY? I MAY NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS CONVERSATION.

GARY YOU KNOW, WEEKS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE OKAY? OKAY. YOU CAN JUST OPT OUT IF YOU WANT.

FOR. FOR SAFETY SAKE.

ARE YOU GUYS OKAY? YEAH.

VERY GOOD. SO FOR THE RECORD, THEN COMMISSIONER MEEHAN HAS RECUSED HIMSELF FROM THIS DISCUSSION AND VOTE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER? OKAY, THEN I'LL HEAR A MOTION FOR FINAL PLAT OF MK SIMPSON CENTER, DIVISION NUMBER THREE.

I'LL TAKE THIS ONE.

I MOVE THAT WE, THE COMMISSION, RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR THE MK SIMPSON CENTER DIVISION NUMBER

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503300. ALL RIGHT.

IT IS. THREE GLASSES CHANGED.

THREE. THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER STEWART, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CANTOR.

WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL. VOTE.

COMMISSIONER CANTU.

HI, STORE. HI, TYLER.

HI, OGDEN. HI, SCOTT.

HI. MOTION PASSED.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WELCOME BACK. THANKS.

[3. PLT24-056: FINAL PLAT for Ivywood Division No. 10. S ½ of the NW ¼ of Section 12, Township 1 North, Range 37 East. Located north of W 81st S, east of S 12th W, south of Montezuma Street, west of S 9th W. ¹ ]

LAST BUSINESS ITEM.

WE'LL HEAR INFORMATION ON THE FINAL PLAT FOR IOWA DIVISION NUMBER TEN.

DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE FOR THAT ONE OR ONLINE? OKAY. WE'LL HEAR FROM STAFF.

FOR TWO ON THAT ONE.

SCARE THEM OFF. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. THE REQUESTED ACTION FOR THIS IS THE SAME.

TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR 81 DIVISION NUMBER TEN TO THE MARION CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE BUILD OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION SOUTH OF 65TH SOUTH.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE NOW HAVE SOME.

MADE SOME PROGRESS.

THIS IS ON THE SOUTH END.

AND THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 57.

NO, THERE WILL BE 57 LOTS AND TWO NON-BILLABLE LOTS ALONG THE SOUTH AND ALONG THE NOW.

FOR SOME. HISTORY.

THE LEWIS PROPERTY WAS ALSO ANNEXED TO THE CITY IN 2006, WITH AN INITIAL ZONING OF R1, AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW IN 2021 AND APPROVED IN JULY 2023.

THERE IS AN APPROVED TRAFFIC STUDY AND MULTIPLE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH BONNEVILLE COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT THE ROAD NETWORK STILL FUNCTIONS WITH THIS LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT IN HERE.

JUST TO POINT OUT AGAIN THAT WE HAVE CONNECTED OVER TO 15 WEST RIGHT HERE.

SO THERE ARE NOW MULTIPLE ENTRANCES AND EXITS INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT ON ALL SIDES.

I KNEW A DIVISION NUMBER TEN WILL HAVE ACCESS FROM DIVISION NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH HASN'T RECORDED YET, BUT IT HAS.

IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REVIEWED.

AND IS EXPECTED TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL SHORTLY.

BUT IT WILL COME ON LOCAL DRIVE AND BRONSON DRIVE COMING SOUTH FROM DIVISION EIGHT.

SO LET ME SEE IF WE CAN GET CLOSER.

SO HERE'S BRONSON DRIVE.

IT WILL CONNECT DOWN.

AND LOWELL DRIVE RIGHT HERE WILL CONNECT DOWN.

IT WILL ALSO CONNECT FROM THE EAST ON THE WYNDHAM STREET RIGHT HERE.

TO INCREASE CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION.

THERE'S TWO INTERNAL STREETS.

DESMOND STREET AND SOUTH STREET THAT ARE SOME INTERNAL CONNECTING STREETS.

SOUTH STREET IS GOING TO BE RENAMED BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY ONE PASSED IN THE COUNTY.

BUT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COMMUNICATED TO THE APPLICANT.

BRONSON DRIVE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS A RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR WITH A 70 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

AND IT CONNECTS DOWN ACROSS THE CANAL TO AN ALREADY CROWDED PLATTE COUNTY ROAD THAT'S CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS A PLUS. AND YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE.

IT'S ALREADY A DEDICATED ROAD GOING SOUTH.

ALL THE OTHER SUBDIVISION WILL BE LOCAL STREETS AND THE SIX FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

ALL LOTS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND THE STANDARDS OF THE ROADS UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE AREA AS SUBURBAN, WHICH DENOTES EXISTING OR PLANNED RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY OR WITH EASY VEHICULAR ACCESS TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL SERVICE AREAS THAT PROVIDE DAILY HOUSEHOLD NEEDS. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE FINAL PLAT AND FINDS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION ZONING ORDINANCES, AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE DIVISION MOTION.

AND AGAIN, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. I DID GO TAKE SOME PICTURES.

OKAY. SO IT'S WONDERFUL.

HERE WE GO. AND THEN THAT'S PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE OTHER DIVISIONS.

YOU WERE OUT THERE PRETTY EARLY IN THE MORNING.

YEAH. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. OKAY.

THIS ONE'S BEEN THROUGH THE.

WRINGER ON IT ALREADY, SO WE'LL.

I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD.

ANY DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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I'LL ADMIT, COMMISSIONER SCOTT.

DID I HEAR YOU? YES.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAT FOR IRONWOOD DIVISION NUMBER TEN TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION? I SECOND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER.

WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL. VOTE.

COMMISSIONER CANTU.

HI. HI, TYLER.

HI, OGDEN. I MEAN, HI, SCOTT.

HI. MOTION PASSED.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

[4. Historic Preservation Plan]

I'M ANXIOUS FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN.

SO MY NAME FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, IS CALEB LONG.

AND I IN JUNE.

FOR THOSE WHO REMEMBER, I CAME TO YOU TO TELL YOU ABOUT OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN.

AND THIS IS KIND OF A SECOND FOLLOW UP FOR OUR PUBLIC OUTREACH THAT I WANTED TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION AS A QUICK RECAP OF IN JUNE.

WE DO HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION.

IT'S AN ADVISORY COMMISSION.

AND I AM A STAFF LIAISON FOR IT, SO THAT'S WHY I'M UP HERE TALKING TO YOU TODAY.

AND WE ARE WE ARE WORKING ON A DRAFT HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN.

AND WE'VE DONE OUTREACH, WE'VE DONE A SURVEY, AND I WANTED TO BRING SOME OF THOSE RESULTS BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL AS INVITE YOU TO OUR OPEN HOUSE NEXT TUESDAY, SAME ROOM, 6:00.

SO AFTER YOU GIVE US IT HERE OUT THERE.

AND SO WE HAVE A DRAFT PLAN.

THE FIRST DRAFT, FIRST DRAFT HAS BEEN REVIEWED, AND OUR SECOND DRAFT WILL BE A PUBLIC DRAFT THAT WE'D LOVE TO HAVE THE COMMISSION LOOK AT.

AND WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF THESE.

I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS.

AND SO I WANT TO KIND OF AND WHAT I'VE LEARNED AND, AND READING BACK FROM THE MINUTES FROM JUNE WHEN I CAME TO THE COMMISSION AND I WANTED TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT THIS PLAN DOES.

YOU SIT HERE ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH AND DO A LOT OF REGULATORY THINGS, RIGHT? PLATS AND REZONES, AND IT'S VERY REGULATORY.

AND I WANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN IS VERY MUCH NOT REGULATORY.

IT'S KIND OF FUN.

WE DO SO MUCH REGULATORY THINGS THAT THIS IS KIND OF A FUN PLAN, AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT LAYS OUT THE NEXT TEN YEARS FOR OUR COMMISSIONER HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND GIVES IT GOALS AND TASKS FOR OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.

AND IT GIVES US TOOLS IN ORDER TO TAKE THE STORIES OF THIS CITY AND DOCUMENT THEM AT THE BASE.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF LANGUAGE IN IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS THAT SOMETIMES THERE MAYBE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.

NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATIONS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT THE BASE OF IT IS ITS DOCUMENTATION OF THE STORIES OF THE PEOPLE AND THE BUILDINGS IN THE CITY.

AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO.

RIGHT? SO I WANTED TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT, AS YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE PLAN AND YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN AND WE BRING THINGS TO THE COMMISSION, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND KIND OF BRING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU KNOW, WE KNOW SOME OF YOUR INPUT WAS PUT INTO THAT SURVEY AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I WANTED TO KIND OF SHOW YOU SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS THAT WE GOT FROM OUR SURVEY.

AND OUR SURVEY HAD ABOUT 200 RESULTS, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PRETTY GOOD.

OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS, AND WE GOT MORE THAN OTHER CITIES, SO I'LL TAKE IT.

SIMILAR SIZE CITIES.

SO SOME OF IT WAS WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN LOCAL HISTORY AND THAT THERE WAS ROOM TO GROW KNOWLEDGE.

RIGHT. I THINK WE ALSO KNOW, AS WE SIT IN THIS ROOM, HOW IMPORTANT EDUCATION IS TO UNDERSTAND PROCESSES AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING.

SO WE THINK THAT'S A KEY, IMPORTANT PART.

A LOT OF THE FOCUS WAS ON OUR DOWNTOWN AND OUR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON THAT.

AND WORK OUT FROM OUR DOWNTOWN.

AGAIN. WE'RE A BIG CITY. WE'RE A GROWING CITY.

AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT THINGS THAT ARE 50 YEARS OR OLDER ARE CONSIDERED HISTORIC PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A DIFFERENT MINDSET.

I THINK FOR PEOPLE. I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE SOME THINGS MIGHT BE HISTORIC.

SOME OF THE OTHER KEY FINDINGS WAS FOCUSING WORK ON DOCUMENTATION INTERPRETATION OF HISTORIC PLACES.

WE ASKED THE QUESTION, IF YOU TOOK THE SURVEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MISSING? WHAT STORIES AREN'T BEING TOLD? AND SO WE SAW A LOT OF LIKE CULTURAL RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY POST WORLD WAR TWO HISTORY.

SOME OF THAT WAS THEY THOUGHT SOME OF THAT WAS MISSING.

SO THAT GIVES US A WAY TO KIND OF FOCUS TOO, ON MAYBE WHAT AREAS WE FOCUS ON.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT CAN BE OUR CITY WEBSITE, THAT CAN BE PAMPHLETS THAT CAN BE PULLED OUT.

AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF SOME OF THE KEY FINDINGS THAT WE FOUND FROM OUR SURVEY RESULTS.

AND THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT SHOWS IN THE SURVEY RESULTS ITSELF.

SO WE ASKED LIKE, WHAT TYPE OF PROJECTS DO YOU BELIEVE WOULD BE THE BIGGEST IMPACT FROM HERE?

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YOU CAN SEE THAT A LOT OF IT WAS LIKE PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL REHAB INCENTIVES.

AND THAT'S A GREAT GOAL, RIGHT? THERE IS NO STATE TAX INCENTIVES.

THERE ARE NO LOCAL TAX INCENTIVES.

SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW THAT'S A QUESTION WE MIGHT HAVE TO TACKLE.

ALSO PUTTING OUR DOWNTOWN IS NOT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AS A DISTRICT.

SO THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A PUSH.

I THINK WE'LL SEE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS TO PUT THAT IN THE DISTRICT.

THAT'S KIND OF COMMON FOR DOWNTOWN IN OUR IN OUR STATE.

AND OURS IS NOT ON THERE.

IT'S BEEN ATTEMPTED FOR 2009, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

ANOTHER ONE IS THAT CUT OFF? DOES IT SAY ON THE TOP THERE? NO. SO I THINK WE'RE ASKING MAYBE WHAT WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITIES WE WANTED TO SEE.

SO HERE THEY YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR GRANTS FOR REHAB SITES FOR INCENTIVES.

LIKE I THINK A LOT OF IT IS PEOPLE HAVE THESE HISTORIC HOMES AND THEY AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.

THEY DON'T KNOW. WE GET CALLS A LOT FROM PEOPLE WHO SAY, I THINK I'M IN A NATIONAL DISTRICT.

WHAT CAN I DO TO MY HOME? RIGHT. AND SO AGAIN, THERE'S THAT EDUCATION PIECE.

AND HAVING PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THEY CAN KIND OF DO WHAT THEY LIKE WITH THEIR HOME.

AND WE'RE HAPPY IF WE HAVE INFORMATION HOW TO PROVIDE THAT FOR THEM.

SO THE PLAN AND YOU'LL SEE IN THIS THE PLAN, WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT AREAS THAT IT'S KIND OF BROKEN UP INTO.

AND SO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT AND THE SURVEY RESULTS, WE THEN TAKE THAT AND WE PUT IT INTO TASKS.

AND SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE TASKS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THE PLAN.

A RECONNAISSANCE LEVEL SURVEY.

ESSENTIALLY IT'S DOCUMENTATION OF BUILDINGS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S THE SIMPLEST WAY TO TALK ABOUT IT.

A DOWNTOWN REGISTER NOMINATION AGAIN, SUPPORTING BUILDING OWNERS WITH INFORMATION.

WE TALK ABOUT ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAD A GREAT IDEA OF THE FACT THAT, LIKE WHEN YOU COME INTO THE AIRPORT, RIGHT.

HOW MANY AIRPORTS DO YOU GUYS FLY INTO? AND YOU SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S DISPLAYS AND HISTORIC INFORMATION ABOUT THAT CITY.

WE THINK THAT'D BE A GREAT COLLABORATION WITH THE AIRPORT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO BECAUSE A LOT OF SURVEY RESULTS TALKED ABOUT HAVING PLAQUES OR PANELS OR WAYS THAT THEY CAN EASILY ACCESS THIS INFORMATION.

THE OTHER TWO PARTS OF THIS IS IT SAYS POLICY AND INCENTIVE, BUT I'M GOING TO STILL SAY THAT'S NOT REGULATORY.

WHAT COULD BE IS THE PLANNING GOAL.

SO OUR OFFICE IS ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO JUGGLE.

RIGHT. AFFORDABILITY.

HOW DO WE MAKE WALKABLE CENTERS.

AND I THINK HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAYS A ROLE IN THAT.

AND SO WE WOULD LOVE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF YOU DO TAKE THE TIME TO READ THROUGH THE PLAN, TO KIND OF LOOK AT IT FROM THAT LENS, OF THAT PLANNING LENS OF HOW DO WE KIND OF WORK THROUGH ALL THAT? THERE ARE BIG QUESTIONS, AND THEY'RE AND THEY'RE NOT EASY TO SOLVE.

BUT ANY INPUT? WE WOULD LOVE THE LAST PART THAT IS TRAINING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND WHAT I'M GOING TO POINT OUT ON THIS IS WE'D LOVE TO DO TRAINING FOR BUILDING OFFICIALS IN INTERPRETING BUILDING CODES FOR HISTORIC BUILDINGS.

I THINK WE KIND OF HEAR THAT SOMETIMES.

AGAIN, IT'S A LOT ABOUT EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.

SO THAT IS KIND OF LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT WE GOT.

KIND OF EXPLAINED TO YOU AND AGAIN, INVITE YOU TO OUR OPEN HOUSE NEXT TUESDAY.

OUR CONSULTANT WILL BE HERE.

HE'LL BE DOING A PRESENTATION AND WILL BE A Q&A AFTER THE COMMISSION HAS ANY COMMENTS.

I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE.

JUST A QUESTION.

ASIDE FROM YOUR SURVEYS, I'M I'D BE INTERESTED IN HOW WHAT ARE THE MEANS BY WHICH YOU OBTAIN THE INFORMATION THAT GOES INTO THE PLAN YOU MENTIONED? APPARENTLY THERE'S SOME INTERVIEWS OF PRESUMABLY LOCAL OFFICIALS AND CITIZENS THAT THAT MAY HAVE INFORMATION CONCERNING THE HISTORIC BACKGROUND OF VARIOUS BUILDINGS.

DO YOU CONDUCT ANY TYPE OF PUBLIC HEARING OR PUBLIC VEHICLE FOR GETTING RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO THE CONTENT OF THE PLAN? SO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION REALLY IS THE ONE THEY'RE WORKING ON.

WE HAVE A CONSULTANT FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND COMMISSION, SIMILAR TO YOU ALL.

THEY THEY WORKED ON THE MISSION STATEMENT.

THEY GUIDED SOME OF THESE GOALS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE STAFF PUT IN INPUT INTO IT AS WELL.

IN THE SURVEY. AND SO THAT'S ALL CRAFTED.

AND THEN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

HOPEFULLY AT THIS POINT.

AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO THE OVERALL GOAL IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL ADOPT THIS PLAN.

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SO THE COMMISSION HAS REALLY LED A LOT OF LIKE WE'VE HAD WORK SESSIONS WITH THE COMMISSION AND THEY'VE KIND OF WORKED THROUGH WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE PLAN AS WELL. I KNOW THERE'S A PLETHORA OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN OUR LOCAL PUBLIC LIBRARY.

I WONDER, I ASSUME THAT THERE'S SOME EFFORT MADE TO TRY TO EXTRACT THAT INFORMATION AND PUT IT INTO YOUR PLAN.

SO IT'S AVAILABLE AS A DOCUMENT.

YEAH, THE PLAN HAS A HISTORICAL HAS A HISTORY SECTION IN THE FIRST PART.

AND SO IT'S I MEAN, I THINK THE PLAN OVERALL IS PROBABLY 100 PAGES.

SO IT'S PRETTY DETAILED FOR THAT HISTORY PART.

AND THEN IT'S AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE MUSEUM OF IDAHO AS WELL.

THEY'VE BEEN GREAT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT INPUT TO THE PLAN.

SO SO YES, YOU'LL SEE HISTORY IN IT.

AND IT KIND OF THE PLAN.

IT'S NOT MAYBE SPECIFIC BUILDINGS.

THE PLAN KIND OF GUIDES TO MAYBE WHAT THOSE BUILDINGS MIGHT DO FURTHER RESEARCH ON.

BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY A HISTORY PART IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PLAN.

PLEASE. ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE YOU HAVE RECONNAISSANCE LEVEL SURVEY.

YOU SAID DOWNTOWN.

THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT ALSO YOU HAVE BEL AIR AND ETC..

SO COULD YOU EXPOUND ON THAT? I'M JUST CURIOUS. YEAH.

SO ACROSS LEVEL LEVEL SURVEY ENDS UP BEING A TOOL OR A OR A RESOURCE WHERE THEY KIND OF GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THE HOUSES AND THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE OF THEM ALL, THAT IT CAN BE A TOOL THAT CAN BE THE FIRST STEP IN A NATIONAL DISTRICT NOMINATION.

IT CAN ALSO BE A TOOL TO DOCUMENT IT.

STORIES I HEARD WAS LIKE LIKE WHERE NATURAL DISASTERS OCCUR.

FEMA MIGHT COME IN AND SAY, WHERE ARE YOUR SURVEYS FOR YOUR CITY? WHERE? TELL ME WHERE YOUR HOMES WERE WITH THAT THE TORNADO TOOK OUT OR THE HURRICANE TOOK OUT.

RIGHT. AND NOW THAT'S DOCUMENTED.

WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY NATURAL DISASTERS, KNOCK ON ANYWHERE BUT BEL AIR.

THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BEL AIR IS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT HAS A VERY LARGE TIE TO IML.

IT WAS BUILT SPECIFICALLY FOR ENL WORKERS IN THE EARLY 50S.

IT WAS BUILT BY SCIENTISTS.

AND YOU CAN KIND OF TELL THEM ARCHITECTURE AND HOW THE BUILDINGS ARE KIND OF PLACED.

AND SO WE THINK IT'S A COOL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.

YEAH. GOT IT. THANK YOU.

I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YES. AND PEOPLE FROM AND THEY, WE WORKED WITH INL TO MAYBE DO SOME LIKE SOME ANALYTICS.

I WON'T GET INTO THAT, BUT A PART OF IT WAS WE OFFERED THEY WOULD OFFER TO MAYBE DO A SURVEY FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT HAS AN INTERESTING HISTORY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF, AGAIN, US EXPANDING OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO THIS IS COMPASS ACADEMY HERE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT.

YEAH. AND THEN THE THEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE EAST AND SOUTH ALONG THE CANAL THERE, ALL THE WAY TO FIRST STREET.

WOW. OKAY. AND I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE THE THE PATTERN OF HOMES.

PRETTY SIMILAR.

YEAH. BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE HISTORY OF THIS, THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME SCIENCE IN THE WAY THEY ACTUALLY LAID THE STREET NETWORK OUT INTO HOW THE SUN CAME THROUGH AND WOULD LIGHT UP THE ROOM.

IT'S PRETTY INTERESTING. VERY INL, YOU KNOW, VERY, IF YOU WILL.

SO AND ANOTHER THING TO NOTE, ONE THING ALSO WAS ON THAT SIDE WAS ETC.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CALEB AND DAVID ACTUALLY WILL PROBABLY BE WORKING ON TOGETHER IS MAPPING ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE 50 YEARS OLD OR OLDER THAT WOULD MEET THAT HISTORY REQUIREMENT.

ONE, WE THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT BECAUSE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE CALEB SAID, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S THAT OLD. THEY THINK IT'S FAIRLY RECENT.

IT'S NOT THAT OLD. WELL, I KNOW RIGHT? AND IF YOU THINK OF THE TIME FRAME 50, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 1970S.

80S. YEAH, RIGHT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF BUILDINGS AND THINGS THAT WERE MAYBE BUILT DURING THAT TIME THAT PEOPLE WERE LIKE, WE WANT TO SAVE THAT.

BUT. YEAH. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND AUSTIN IS NOW OVER 50 YEARS OLD.

AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND GUSTAFSON, YOU HAVE HOME RANCH AND STUFF.

THERE'S A LOT OF MID-CENTURY MODERN HOMES THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW CONSIDER THAT THEY CONSIDER HISTORIC.

YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE HOW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR CLASSIC QUEEN ANNE, TUDOR, VICTORIAN, THOSE ARE ALL YOUR CLASSIC HISTORICAL.

WELL, NOW, AT LEAST MY GENERATION AND, YOU KNOW, YOUNGER, THEY SEE THESE MID-CENTURY MODERN HOMES BUILT IN THE 60S AND 70S AND THEY JUST LOVE THEM.

THEY THINK THEY'RE THE COOLEST THING EVER.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID.

AND GUSTAFSON HAS TONS OF THOSE HOMES.

AND I LOVE IT. SO.

AND YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE LIKE AN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT IS, THAT IS LIKE A MID-CENTURY OR VICTORIAN, BUT IT HAS AN INTERESTING STORY.

RIGHT. AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO CAPTURE THAT AND TO THINK OUTSIDE OF LIKE OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR WE LOVE OUR DOWNTOWN AND OUR LETTERED STREETS AND OUR NUMBERED STREETS AND ALL

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THAT. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF STORIES TO TELL.

AND SO HOW DO WE EXPAND THAT? RIGHT. IT'S NOT JUST ARCHITECTURAL.

IT'S. YES. STORY WISE.

YEAH. AND ONE THING THAT WE THINK AS WELL IS IMAGINE I TALKED A LOT ABOUT IDAHO FALLS KEEPING THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTED TO THIS.

AND WE THINK THIS IS ONE WAY WE COULD ALSO ACHIEVE THAT IS BY TELLING STORIES AND REALLY TELLING THE STORY OF THAT SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEN CONNECTING PEOPLE TO IT WILL HELP KEEP THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL, IF YOU WILL.

IN IDAHO FALLS, I AGREE WITH THAT.

I MOVED TO IDAHO FALLS FROM TULSA.

AND TULSA IS A BIG CITY.

HOWEVER, THEY HAVE A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTEDNESS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AREAS.

THE DISTRICTS OR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE NAMED ARE UNIQUE, HAVE SOME HISTORY WITH THEM.

AND PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THIS HISTORY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

YEAH. AND IT'S IT'S A VERY REAL IDENTITY.

AND PEOPLE WILL SAY, OH, I'M FROM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND GAIN SOME PRIDE IN THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A VERY LARGE MILLION PEOPLE IN THE TULSA CITY AREA.

AND YOU'D BE SURPRISED HOW MANY CALLS WE GET OF, HERE'S A RANDOM ADDRESS.

WHAT'S THE HISTORY OR THE HOME? I DON'T KNOW, I ONLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, PLATS OR MAYBE A BUILDING PLAN MAYBE.

RIGHT. SO AGAIN, THIS GIVES A LOT MORE RESOURCES TO OUR PUBLIC, AND IT DOES GIVE IDENTITY AND PRIDE TO SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR FOR SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

COMMISSIONER I WANT TO EXPOUND ON THAT.

IN THE NUMBERED STREETS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE 11TH STREET HISTORIC DISTRICT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST FIVE, TEN YEARS, HAVE KNOW THEY'RE BUYING A HOUSE THERE AND THEY WANT TO BE THERE SPECIFICALLY.

THAT'S JUST WHAT I'VE NOTICED.

LIVING THERE. THAT THERE IS A HUGE HIGH PRIDE OF OWNERSHIP OF BEING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, YEAH, IT IS BECOMING A PLACE, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE SAY, OH, I'M FROM HERE.

STATED GOALS IS TO BUY ONE OF THE UNIQUE HOMES ON REMEMBERED STREETS.

I TELL MY WIFE ALL THE TIME, I'M ON THERE, RIGHT? I MAY NOT LIVE IN IT, BUT I'M GOING TO OWN IT.

PERFECT. SO? SO, YEAH, JUST TO TEST WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT'S.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S IDAHO FALLS IS IDEAL FOR THAT TYPE OF THING.

LIKE, LET'S NOT JUST HAVE THE NUMBERS.

LET'S START CREATING THOSE IDENTITIES AROUND TOWN, YOU KNOW? YEAH. SO INTERESTING SUGGESTION THAT HAS COME OUT OF THIS AS WELL HAS BEEN TO DO A SIMILAR THING FOR BUSINESSES.

WELL, WHAT ABOUT BUSINESSES THAT ARE 50 YEARS OR OLDER OR HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY? MAYBE THERE'S A STORY TO TELL THERE AS WELL.

SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT REACHING OUT TO THE CHAMBER AND SEEING WHAT WE COULD DO TO TRY TO FIGURE SOME OF THAT OUT AS WELL.

SO AND THAT'S ONE THING AS FAR AS CANDY AND ICE CREAM OR JONAS BROTHERS AND JOHNSON BROTHERS HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER.

YEAH, THERE'S A LOT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING I HOPE THE COMMISSION, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION, CAN CREATE A PROGRAM.

THEY CAN RUN WITH IT.

AGAIN, THEY GET TO DO FUN THINGS, YOU KNOW, NOT REGULATORY.

BUT LIKE, HOW DO YOU DO THINGS LIKE THAT? SO YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT.

GOOD. WELL, I HOPE THE COMMISSION MANY OF US CAN BE HERE NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY.

THANK YOU. ONE OTHER QUESTION.

I HAVE A GREAT INTEREST IN THE HISTORY OF SOME OF THE PUBLIC BUILDINGS.

JUST FASCINATING HISTORY THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE, CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, DO NOT KNOW.

FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE A CARNEGIE LIBRARY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THAT.

AND IT WOULD BE INTRIGUING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF A LOT OF THOSE OF BUILDINGS THAT WE DON'T TAKE FOR GRANTED THAT ANOTHER IS JUST YOUR YOUR CITY POWER.

HOW DID THAT OCCUR? HOW DID THE DAM GET HERE? HOW DID THE YOU KNOW, THE LEVEE WE DRIVE ACROSS ON THE ROADWAY BRIDGE AND WE SEE THAT.

HOW DID THAT GET HERE? YEAH.

IT WOULD BE FASCINATING TO GO BACK AND PRESERVE THAT HISTORY, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.

ANOTHER FASCINATING THING WOULD BE ON THE GEM STATE HYDROELECTRIC PROJECT.

I THINK THAT'S APPROACHING 50 YEARS NOW, AND MANY PEOPLE DID NOT KNOW THE HISTORY OF HOW THAT OCCURRED AND AND WHAT WAS BEHIND IT AND THE EFFORT THAT WAS MADE TO ENSURE THAT FACILITY BUILT.

BUT ANYWAY, I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN JUST THE PUBLIC FACILITIES THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. WE HAVE A COUPLE PUBLIC FACILITIES IN THE PLAN ALREADY THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, BUT THOSE AREN'T ONES.

AND SO WE'RE HAPPY. AGAIN, THAT FEEDBACK IS WONDERFUL TO HAVE.

SOMETIMES WHEN YOU SIT AND CAN'T THINK OF IT RIGHT.

SO THAT'S GREAT. WE CAN DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT ADDING SOME OF THOSE.

ONE THING THAT I WANT TO SAY SLASH QUESTION SLASH STATEMENT, I MEAN, TO GO ON WHAT DAVE WAS SAYING OR COMMISSIONER SAW

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THE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, CIVIC BUILDINGS THAT ARE I THINK ARE VERY INTERESTING THAT ARE JUST PROBABLY SLIGHTLY OVER THE OVER 50 YEARS OLD, LIKE YOU HAVE THE ACTIVITY CENTER ALONG RIGHT NEXT TO THE AIRPORT.

I WENT INTO THAT BUILDING LAST YEAR AND I'M LIKE THIS, LIKE, BROUGHT ME BACK TO LIKE, I DON'T IT FELT LIKE THE BUILDING LOOKED LIKE IT WAS BUILT IN THE 60S OR 70S.

AND IT JUST WAS INTERESTING TO ME, LIKE, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? OR LIKE THE POST OFFICE ON FIRST STREET? THAT'S LIKE A LIKE A CLASSIC MID-CENTURY MODERN STYLE CIVIC BUILDING, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT ERA.

AND I ALWAYS THINK IT'S SO INTERESTING.

A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT PROBABLY JUST LOOKS BORING OR WHATEVER, BUT I JUST, I FIND THOSE THINGS VERY INTERESTING.

LIKE, IT'S A PRODUCT OF ITS TIME, YOU KNOW.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAY, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTS AND CITY PLANNERS ARE THINKING AT THE TIME.

AND SO I THINK CAPTURING SOME OF THAT AS WELL, I THINK WOULD BE QUITE INTERESTING.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CIVIC AUDITORIUM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHY DID THEY DECIDE TO GO WITH LIKE AN ART DECO ISH LOOK IN THE 50S WHEN IT WASN'T EVEN POPULAR, YOU KNOW? SO VERY INTERESTING STUFF LIKE THAT.

ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK WOULD ALSO, AND THIS IS COMMENTS THAT WE COULD PROBABLY SAY AT THE OPEN HOUSE, I'M SURE, BUT NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, BUILDINGS, BUT LIKE HOW DO I EXPLAIN IT, LIKE THE RAILROAD OR THE AREA AROUND WHAT USED TO BE CALLED SPUD ALLEY? ALI WHICH IS KIND OF ESSENTIALLY THE ORIGINAL EAGLE ROCK BECAUSE WE'RE CURRENT DOWNTOWN IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT AS IS.

THAT'S LIKE THE SECOND DOWNTOWN WHEN THE ORIGINAL DOWNTOWN SEE WHERE THE RAILROAD USED TO.

THEY JUST RIPPED UP THE TRACKS WHERE IT CURVES RIGHT THERE.

THAT WAS ALL RIPPED OUT IN THE 70S FOR URBAN RENEWAL.

AND THERE USED TO BE TONS OF DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS THERE THAT WERE ACTUALLY OLDER THAN SOME OF THE ORIGINAL DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS, BECAUSE THAT WAS ALMOST THE ORIGINAL EAGLE ROCK.

AND THERE USED TO BE A ROUNDHOUSE THERE.

AND THE RAILROAD THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CROSSING OF THE SNAKE RIVER, OF HOW MINERS GOT FROM SALT LAKE UP TO MONTANA.

IT WAS THE SKINNIEST POINT.

AND I MEAN, THAT'S THE BIRTH OF IDAHO FALLS IS RIGHT THERE.

AND SO SOME CORRECT.

AND THE PLAN ADDRESSED IT A LITTLE BIT AND THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS.

SO I DID THAT SAME RESEARCH BECAUSE THAT ORIGINAL EAGLE ROCK ROAD WAS LISTED AS A NATIONAL DISTRICT, ALMOST AS A LAST DITCH EFFORT BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY CAME IN.

IT WAS LISTED IT WAS TORN DOWN THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY WAS CREATED TO BUILD THE LIBRARY.

SO I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE LIBRARY, BUT BUT IT'S BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT IT IS NOW THE LIBRARY WILL BE 50 YEARS OLD WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

IT HAS A VERY INTERESTING ARCHITECT TO IT AS WELL.

SO IT'D BE INTERESTING TO DO THAT HISTORY, MAYBE LIST IT AND THEN NOW THAT NOT TO ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE, BUT NOW THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT THAT WE TORE DOWN FOR A LIBRARY.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE NEW WATER TOWER THERE.

SO THERE'S ONE PIECE OF LAND THAT A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE HAS A VERY INTERESTING HISTORY.

SO YEAH.

SO THOSE ARE DEFINITELY LIKE VERY INTERESTING THINGS THAT.

YEAH. LIKE BECAUSE RIGHT WHERE THAT RAILROAD WAS, THAT WAS LIKE THE MAIN STREET BACK THEN THE BUSINESSES FACED THE RAILROAD BECAUSE THEY WOULD UNLOAD THE TRAINS RIGHT THERE INTO THE. IT WAS QUITE INTERESTING.

AND SO WE HAVE HISTORICAL AERIALS PRETTY MUCH THAT I, I SENT TO OUR CONSULTANT TO KIND OF SHOW THE YOU CAN ALMOST SEE LIKE I THINK IT WAS NICKNAMED SPUD ALLEY OR WHATEVER, SO I KNOW.

SORRY. YEAH.

SO THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS ALL TORN DOWN.

WOW. I WANT TO SAY 69 OR 64.

YEAH. SEE? LOOK HOW DENSE IT IS WITH ALL THESE BUSINESSES AND THE RAILROADS GOING IN.

LIKE THERE'S SPURS OFF THE RAILROAD IN THERE.

IT'S JUST VERY INTERESTING TO ME, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE, SOMEHOW AT LEAST JUST CAPTURING THE HISTORY OF THAT, OR AT LEAST JUST TELLING THE STORY.

ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT SAYING BRING IT BACK TO THAT, BUT LIKE HIGHLIGHTING THAT BECAUSE THAT'S OUR HERITAGE AND NO ONE WOULD KNOW THAT WAS THERE.

RIGHT. THE LIBRARY IS SUCH A BELOVED BUILDING.

IT'S A IT'S A GREAT BUILDING AND SUCH A GREAT, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING ARCHITECT TO IT.

NO ONE WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS MAYBE THAT CONFLICT THERE BEFOREHAND.

SOUNDS GOOD. YEAH. I JUST THINK IT'S INTERESTING.

I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT YOU'RE KIND OF EXPANDING OUT.

DOWNTOWN'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE POPULAR FOR US, RIGHT.

IT'S THE MOST VISIBLE PARTS OF THE CITY.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT INTEREST IN AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN MAYBE IGNORED FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

FIRST STREET, NORTH GATE MILE.

THERE'S A LOT OF RENEWED INTEREST IN THOSE AREAS, AND MAYBE THOSE ARE TURNING INTO HISTORIC DISTRICTS.

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AND SO IS THERE SOME TIME PRESSURE ON THE WORK YOU'RE DOING TO PRESERVE SOME OF THAT STUFF BEFORE IT GETS REDEVELOPED? NOW, MAYBE NOT PRESERVATION AS IN WE DON'T PLAN ON DOING LIKE LOCAL ORDINANCES, LIKE LOCAL PRESERVATION ORDINANCES.

THE GOAL ISN'T TO TELL PEOPLE YOU CAN OR CAN'T TEAR THAT DOWN.

I THINK, BUT IT COULD BE HOW DO WE MAYBE TAKE PLANNING CODE LIKE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND HOW DO WE WORK IT? SO IF YOU DON'T TEAR IT DOWN, MAYBE THERE'S NOT AS MUCH PARKING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE THERE'S SOME GIVE AND TAKE THERE THAT WE'D LIKE TO EXPLORE IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, OR EVEN LIKE A DESIGN DIRECTION.

SO LET'S SAY, OR FIRST STREET.

LET'S LEAN INTO THAT 1950S FEELING OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, NEON CLASSIC, YOU KNOW, LIKE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT HAS THEIR GUIDELINES FOR THE STORAGE, RIGHT? WHAT IF WE DID THAT FOR A DIFFERENT ERA? AND THAT'S MORE OF LIKE THE PLANNING PATH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

AND HOW DO WE KIND OF WORK THAT IN.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

I'M CURIOUS, IS THERE ANY SORT OF SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR THIS OR.

SO THE FUNDING COMES FROM SO A LOT OF WHAT I WORK WITH IS THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY HAS A STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.

IT'S A STATE GRANT THE AGENCY AND THEY ARE REALLY THEY'RE STATE RAN.

BUT THEY KIND OF ARE LIKE THEY ANSWER TO THE NATIONAL PARK SERVICE.

SO WE WORK WITH OUR LOCAL THEY'RE CALLED SHPOS, OUR LOCAL SHPO.

AND THEY HAVE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE APPLY FOR.

SO WE ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR THIS PLAN.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET $15,000 AS A GRANT TO HIRE THE CONSULTANT FOR THE PLAN.

SO AND THEN FUTURE I MEAN, A PART OF IT IS FUTURE GRANT FUNDING IS WE HAVE GRANTS THROUGH SHPO THAT WE CAN DO.

THERE'S SOME OTHER GRANTS.

THERE'S ALSO. WHEN THERE'S A PROJECT DONE BY A FEDERAL AGENCY, IF THE PROPERTY IS HISTORIC, THERE MIGHT BE MITIGATION EFFORTS.

AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT FOR EXAMPLE, MAYBE WE TORE DOWN A BUILDING.

IT WAS CONSIDERED HISTORIC.

THEY HAD TO DO MITIGATION EFFORTS.

SO SOME OF THIS COULD BE WE COULD TAKE THIS PLAN AND WE CAN SAY, WILL YOU PAY FOR THIS? WILL YOU DO THIS? AND THEY THAT SATISFIES THAT FEDERAL REQUIREMENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN ALSO DOES IS IT GIVES US A TOOL TO SAY WE WANT X, Y AND Z DONE.

WILL YOU DO THAT. SO THAT'S ALSO KIND OF A FUNDING SOURCE.

RIGHT. WELL GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YEAH.

THANK YOU. VERY INTERESTING STUFF.

AND THEN CAITLIN, JUST MAYBE NEXT STEPS.

THE THE OPEN HOUSE IS NEXT WEEK.

YES. BUT THEN WE WILL PROBABLY, MAYBE BE EVEN HAVING AN SEND OUT A QR CODE OR A LINK TO THE PLAN TO YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY.

JUST BECAUSE WE LOVE TO HAVE MORE COMMENTS LIKE THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT TONIGHT.

SO SO ANY COMMENT OR FEEDBACK LIKE THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

GOOD. WE'LL READ IT.

THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, YOU'VE GOT THE FUN JOB.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ITEMS TO DISCUSS OR GO OVER? AND I GUESS WE'LL ADJOURN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.